June 30, 2022 • 38 mins
Today's guest is 28 year old, 2x NBA All-Star, 3rd team All-NBA selection, 4x NBA rebounding leader & former #1 player in the country, Andre Drummond.
Andre spent one year at UConn and was a walk-on for the team because of his late decision to commit to the school after reclassifying, they given their last scholarship away making a walk-on.
Andre and Noah discuss:
- 2 hiccups he faced as a walk-on
- Playing for 5 teams last 3 szns
- Competing against & w/ Embiid
- Dre's value in today's NBA
- Draymond & the New Media
... and so much more about his time with LeBron in LA, being around the drama in Philly & Brooklyn, going from max contracts to veteran's minimums, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Walkie Talkies is a production of I Heart Radio and
the College Athletes Network. Hello, Yeah, what's up everybody? Man?
(00:29):
Welcome to Walkie Talkies Podcast. This is episode twelve of
the podcast. We are here on the College Athletes Network,
featured on I Heart Radio, and I'm your host No Bano.
I do want to thank you all for choosing Walkie
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get this hell crack a man, because I can't wait
(01:11):
to get into this interview. Man. Today's episode is really crazy,
like the fact that it came about the fact that
it happened, and you click the episode, so you know
who I'm about to introduce. But you know, our guest
does happen to be one of the most highly regarded
walk ons in the history of walk ons. Google him.
The name is Andre Drummond Man, twenty eight year old,
to time NBA All Star, in All NBA Third Team selection,
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four time rebounding leader, and you'll hear me rattle off
much more of some of his amazing statistical feats as
the interview goes on. But yes, this man was a
walk on at Yukon, and he was not your traditional
walk on, which is kind of where the interview will
start and he'll talk about that that process. Believe it
or not, though Dre did have a couple of funny
moments at Yukon that did kind of give off the
(01:54):
walk on vibe, which we're really cool to hear about um,
because you wouldn't think that anything would exist, But there
were two little ones that he touched on that we're funny.
And from there though, we do get into how the
last few years of his NBA career have gone, with
being on five teams in three different seasons and what
he hopes for this upcoming season in two heading into
free agency in just a couple of days, um, you know,
(02:16):
and there's so much inside of all of that, with
you know, him playing with Joe l Embiid, Ben Simmons,
Kyrie Irving, Lebron, James Anthony Davis to buy out the
situation in Cleveland. Like, there's a lot of things that
we do kind of touch on, even Draymond Green and
the new media, since that's a popping topic, man, I
wanted to hear what he had to say about it.
That was some cool stuff too. So two side notes
(02:36):
in regards to the episode. Dre did have some choppy
audio in the beginning of our interview. I swear I
was not laughing by myself. Man. We had a good
time and it does not last that long, and honestly,
I probably just noticed more of where it's at than
any of you listeners will. But the interview overall sounds
great and we cleared it up pretty quickly, so no
worries there. Did just want to address that I didn't
want anyone thinking that I was producing shitty quality episodes,
(02:59):
and that was something on my m man. I want
these things to be as pristine and perfect as possible,
just some unfortunate a hiccup on his side, but really,
it literally does not matter. I'm ramming about something that
doesn't matter, if so let's get on with it. Secondly,
I left some of our post episode talk in there.
It's very brief, and it was after I initially thanked
him and ended the the actual episode, So there is
essentially two endings. Both are small, both are short, not
(03:21):
a big deal. But my point is that I left
the second one in there because it's just like a
dumb little rundown of our candid convo about me getting
him on the show, and you know just how much
he helps Walkie Talkies by coming on this show, and
just how appreciative I am for him to do that.
I do also mention to him the Walkie Talkies merchandise
that I'm gonna be sending out to him. I asked
him his size and uh, you know, what he would
(03:41):
wear and whatever, and it just cannot believe the size
that he said he was does not make any sense.
I think it's pretty funny, but you have to stick
around to the end to get to that. So I
left that in so that you all know that if
you know drum is wearing my stuff, then you should
be too, you know what I'm saying. So if any
of you listeners out there are interested in the first
round of Walkie Talkies merchandise with our little NBA Street
Vibe NBA Street mimic from the video game back in
(04:03):
the day, had just launched our first few items, you
can find and support the Waukie Tuckies Gang by visiting
shop Crashing hoops dot com and I'll leave that link
in the show description below so you can click right
on it. There will be some even better designs on
the way, but this is a really good place for
us to start, as I finished up the rest of
the show's branding, But go check that out if you
think you'd have any interest anyway, That's enough for me.
(04:24):
I'm really excited to get into today's interview. Man, this
this conversation was special, this moment for the podcast. It's huge.
So let's get into today's interview with former Yukon men's
basketball walk on crazy to even say that, and now
NBA star Andre Drummond. It's good, man, hear me, what's
going on? But you're going good, bro. I appreciate you
taking some time to do this, all right, So you
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know from the jump, you were a five star coming
out of high school, ranked number two in the country,
behind Anthony Davis number one in the country. Where you know,
I thought A d was one spot. You're behind him.
Oh that's right, Okay, Yeah, So when I was looking
at top one hundred, it had him than you, but um,
that's I ended up going back up again. Um. It's
(05:07):
funny to me, man, because when people google search like
the best walk ons like you get regarded as one
of the best, if not the best. But it's just
funny because you know, a six or eleven, two hundred
sixty five pound dude is not a conventional walk on.
You definitely shouldn't have been. You should not have had
that title ever. So it's just hilarious to me that,
you know, you're kind of part of this walkie talkies gang.
(05:27):
So happy to have you on the show. But I'll
set this set the stage from there. Originally gonna go
to prep school in Massachusetts before college in twenty eleven,
and then kind of abruptly in late August, decided to
commit to yukon Um And that decision is kind of
what triggered you being a walk on, if I have
that correctly. So what made you change your mind to
go to college and what ended up happening that made
(05:48):
you be considered a walk on for that one year? Well,
I had I had a family meeting maybe like a
few weeks before like the high school semester started, and
I think we all just decided that it was best
for me to go to college because high school has
become very very easy for me, and I wasn't really
having much I wasn't wasn't having much fun anymore. So
I just reclassified, and I want I decided to go
(06:08):
to Yukon. They didn't have any more scholarships and I
really wanted to go there, and so I just said,
you know what, might just take take the hit on
the chin and just paid for a year. I didn't
play as staying long anyway, So I just paid back
my student loans up right. So I mean you technically
were a walk on? Were you, like you don't have
to answer this if it's it's not allowed, but like,
(06:29):
were they giving you any sort of money on the
side that was like helping that was maybe legal at
the time, And obviously there was no n I l ship,
but like did you Because when I when I did
decided to go, it was like a really big thing.
I got red flag and I couldn't be at school
for like a month because they were there investigating like
why isn't number one playing the country going to the
school and paying I really, I really wanted to play there,
(06:50):
Like I really wanted to play with him. I want
to had a relationship with him as a kid too,
you know, because I seemed to be in Jerome Dice
used to get the air braided in my haunt Salan,
so I used to go to all their games as
the kids. I already had a relationship with him, So
I really, you know, wanted to stay home and play there.
So I just took the year and just said I'll,
you know, suck it up and play a year, paid
for it, and go from there. So when you say
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suck it up, was it strictly because of the fact
that it was coming out of your own pocket? That
was like, man, I'm gonna take these loans out and
just you know, do what I gotta do because I'm
going to be here for one year. Was that the
main thing about like sucking it up? Well, I didn't
really know how long it was gonna be there, because
I didn't really in a million years had a dream
i'd be in a position I'm in now. This is
all still so surreal to me. I just you know,
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this took a chance. I've been on myself. I guess
we can call it that better myself at that point
in time, I just said, I gotta take it this
year and take it a serious possible in play as
hard as I can, and you know, for the best.
So the loans you took out, and I'm assuming I'm
great assumption here, probably pretty obvious, but right when you
got drafted, that was probably your first big payment, just
to get those off your back. I didn't even buy
a car or house. I pay my two loans back
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and then I moved out to Detroit the next day. Yeah,
that makes that makes sense. Get those out of the way.
Don't let the interest a crew all that. I'm in
the same boat, man, I'm trying to I'm trying to
get out in front of these before my six month
grace period is out of the way, because I got
a fatass monthly check coming. Um. But obviously, when you know,
like you know, there's millions of dollars on the table
coming your way. Like obviously all the puzzle pieces aligne
(08:18):
the way they're supposed to. Like you're gonna be putting
a position where those loans don't matter. Like I remember
when I went to college, I was like, listen, I'm
not going to the NBA, but like, I'm gonna try
to put myself in a position where three or four
years out of college, like the loans are a joke.
They're just like because like you said, bet on myself
whatever it is that I'm trying to do. Um because
you don't have that belief whether you're gonna go be
(08:38):
an NBA, NFL player, make millions of dollars off the bat,
you know, whatever else it is you're gonna do. You
gotta believe in yourself that like that's the goal. Like fun,
the loans, you're gonna pay them back, don't matter. U
go ahead, agree with you? Right? Yeah. So I just
think it's a crazy one year ride. Like was there
anything that went on there there? There couldn't have been,
but you know, obviously you saw how maybe your average
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walk on on the team that you were teammates with
at the time was maybe treated like you were not
treated that same way. But was there anything that would
have maybe maybe made you feel like, you know, you
understood what an actual walk on like went through. No, Okay,
yeah I didn't think, so I'm not really sure. When
I got there played right away, I almost forgot I
(09:21):
wasn't walk on at a certain point certain points of
times too well, actually, you know what not the time
that I remember that was h the cafeteria time. Do
you know, scholarship back they got stipends and they got
free food. I had to like physically like get a
credit card from like city bank at the campus and
like pay for my food because I wasn't a scholarship Wow. Okay,
so that was like the main thing, normal thing I
(09:43):
had to do. And I didn't get to live with
the bassel players, so I lived in a hounted dorm.
Kind of really good grades out of high school, so
that also helped me get financial lead. So I had
to like stay in the honest dorm. So I was
like a mile away from the practice facility, and I
was like late every day because at the bottom campus. Okay,
so there was like at least a little bit of
like a little bit of normalcy there. That's kind of
funny that you were. There was nothing that could do.
(10:04):
They couldn't put you in the same apartment. I ended
up moving there like maybe like maybe way through the season,
they're like, all right, you keep coming late to everything.
We need to me to do something. Yeah, right, uh
at hill top, at the top of the hill, by
the by the arena. That's great, all right. So really,
like I figured with you being a walk on, there
wasn't much to it because you were a walk on
that played. You know, I had a good first year.
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And at what point in that in that season was
it a foregone conclusion you'd enter the draft or was
it a foregone conclusion before you had even stepped on
the Yukon court. I think when we lost to Iowa
Stay in the first round, and then I think the
news came out a few weeks later that we were
banned from the tournament. I can't remember why they were
banned for the tournament again after that year, but we
(10:47):
were banned. So I was like, I'm not I'm not
going back. Yeah, why would you? Yeah, I mean, like
the kids live or die, Like live or died from
those moments playing in like the nub A tournament and
you had no chance to even if you guys were
rounding or I was, like, I think I was in
like seventh grade when you were in college, so I
don't even remember what's going on at that point. But
(11:08):
if they were banned and you got bounced in the
first round of whatever, if you guys were in the
Big Easter, I don't even know what conference you were
in at that point in time. But yes, of course
the Big East was around and is still around. I
was just dumb and not in tune with much college
basketball at that point in time, as like a sixth
or seventh grader. And yes, I'm sorry that the break
came so early in this episode. However, please stay with us.
(11:28):
When we come back, we will have some great extended
NBA talk on Andre's last few years in the league,
being on five different teams in the last three seasons,
and what that roller coaster ride has been like for him.
So stay with us. We'll be right back. Walkie Tuckies
podcast is back, and let's get right into my next
question for our special walk on guest, Andre Drummond. Um.
(11:50):
All right, so let's as I always like to do
with the show, you take that very small walk on
journey that you had. It's more just more so just
funny that you even get the title of a walk
on um. But I like to apply it into like
the current guests field of work. You're obviously have hapens
to be a successful NBA career, So I just want
to shift gears into that because you've had, you know,
an interesting ride these last three three and a half years.
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Like you know, by your second season you're averaging thirteen
points thirteen rebounds. Never averaged anything less than that for
the next seven years, which is you know, insane dominance
and really not appreciate it enough. If you if I
can give my opinion, you had five seasons averaging fourteen
plus rebounds. So my point was saying, all that is,
like throughout those years, you make a hundred and sixty
(12:35):
million bucks just an NBA contracts. And these last few years, though,
like you're bouncing around from team to team, you're getting
hit with like Vetman here, Vetman their contract buy out,
Like in that three year span, can you talk about
like what that's been like and kind of just how
you've been able to handle that, Like the adversity of
bouncing around city to city, team to team, coaches, different coaches,
(12:56):
different teammates, you know, and not really finding a complete
home these last couple years after all that dominance that
I'm talking about, Like it had to be a weird
kind of a Juben phase for you. For me, it
was definitely a unique one. Um, you know, being in
the same place for so long, playing in Detroit for
eight seasons and being traded to Cleveland and the pandemic happened,
and then when I come back to Cleveland, you know,
(13:18):
we were fifth or fifth in the rankings for halfway
through the year. Then they sent me out for four months.
That was definitely a mental struggle for me. It was
definitely hard to accept and to deal with a lot
of a lot of Uh, it was. It was a lot.
It was a lot. You know, I haven't spoke about
two often, so I'm trying to like bring back memories
of it, you know, something I tried to kind of
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you know, it was a it was a learning experience
to me. It was humbling, Uh it was. It was
a moment of oh, ship, like this is a real business,
and I loved it. I embraced it. I knew what
I needed to do to get myself back into a
situation where you know, people don't forget because you know,
I feel like during the pandemic it was like so
all over the place, and my contract was expiring, you know,
(14:01):
kind of like took people's minds off of what I
was doing previous years. So for me, it was humbling,
you know it little fire under my ass. I was.
I was ready to go once I came back with
the situation with Philly, you know, coming off the bench
or something I've never done in my entire life. Also
another humbling experience. You mean, to be able to play
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behind a guy like Joel Embia, who I've had constant
battles throughout my career. Also, it was kind of like
a gut wrenching moment for me because no, it was
it was never It was never beef. And that's something
I say publicly all time. Was never beef. I'm just
a guy that's never backed down to him, and I
think that's something he really respected about me. And he
kills a lot of the bigs in the league. Like
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I'm not scared, Like I've never been afraid to play
against him, regardless of him having great games against me
as an excellent basketball player. Uh, one of the most
talented biggs I've ever seen or played against in my lifetime.
But I'm not a bit like I'm like, I'm gonna
keep I'm gonna keep coming for you, regardless of how
well you play. And he knows that, like I'm not
backing down. I'm gonna keep coming to him and keep
playing hard. But to play behind a guy like that, um,
(15:03):
it was tough for me because like I enjoyed playing
against him, and I was so used to being the
start of my team. But again another humbling experience for me.
And I learned so much from him. I learned a
lot from playing for Doc, who also a family friend
of mine, knowing him since I was sixteen. So to
have that that chance to play for a guy like
that who has such a high caliber of wins and
(15:24):
you know his history and legacy what he's done and
coaching it is incredible. So I love dr Death. I
love playing for him. Uh. Then going being traded to
Brooklyn again, being traded again and going to Brooklyn and
like kind of getting a glimpse of kind of reality
of you know, where I used to be at starting
again and being a focal point for a team and
helping a team win and turning their season around. I
(15:46):
started seeing things start to turn a little bit from me.
And now I'm at a point now where it's a
waiting game. You know, the draft is in a few
days uh freet and sees a couple of days after.
So it's kind of just seeing where my hard work
is taking me these past couple of years, and hopefully
I'm award Hope I'm rewarded properly. At the end of
the day. This game is something that is not very
(16:07):
very h what's the word I'm looking for, um, fair? Yeah,
I wouldn't say fair, but it's it's it's it's a
business at the end of the day. It's a business
the end of the day. And you know, politics are
always involved in you know, there's always egos and points
of views of how people do certain things. So I
just try to play the game the right way, play
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as hard as I can, do what I'm supposed to
do and put it to the best of my ability.
So obviously, hopefully the rewards where it's supposed to be
the summer until then, right, It's crazy to me because,
like from a fans perspective, um, you know you see
the value of a player like I mentioned all your
your accolades, like you had five straight seasons or five
(16:49):
different seasons of fourteen plus rebounds a game, and you
had seven years where you never averaged less than thirteen
and thirteen. But all it takes is that little hiccup
in Cleveland and that bumping the road in in l
A when you didn't even really get a full chance
to play along side Braun and a d and that group,
and then all of a sudden, like Andre Drummond's stock
(17:10):
has looked at as like, oh, he's not that valuable
in today's NBA, Like he's a six eleven center that
can't step outside and shoot the three. And that's probably
like the main thing that you know, all these front offices,
Yeah right, like what yeah? What is? What else? Is?
What else is your argument for why you wouldn't want
And honestly, that argument alone, to me is such is
(17:30):
so shitty because like it's bullshit, it's bullshit. So I
just think it's crazy because I just want to rewind briefly,
like what in that Cleveland thing do you think happened?
Where they were like, Yo, we're gonna set you out
for four months, like you had the big contract. I
know they were probably trying to buy you out, but
I remember when you got traded there, I was like,
you know, Cleveland's Cleveland, probably not going to be that great,
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but like he definitely helps to the mix of what
they got going on there with that core. But then
it felt like you never even really got a fair
shot at like like building something there before. They were
just like not, you know, like we're just going to
sit you out and try to get off your contract.
Like what do you what do you think started that?
I mean, I think I think we were doing something
that they weren't expecting. I think they were they're planning
(18:12):
was to like start playing a lot younger and kind
of revamping their team. And I feel like when I
when I came, I demanded excellence from everybody. I demanded that,
Like I wasn't Like anybody can tell you the day
from day one, when I first got there and they
were playing a certain way that I wasn't comfortable with,
I called I called the time out. I think I
forgot who the first game was because maybe it was
the Clippers or I can't remember what was, but I
(18:33):
remember I called the time out and I was screaming
to everybody, like I remember vividly, like I was like, Yo,
we're not here to fucking lose basketball games. I don't
care what your record is, Like I want to win,
like we can win. We have a really good team,
Like I remember telling these guys that, I feel like
from that day for like that team started believing in themselves.
We started playing, We started playing a lot better, started
jelling a lot better, and then obviould see the pandemic happening.
(18:55):
When we came back, I started playing again. We were
fifth in the East, the entire the entire way, Like
our confidences are the all time high. And I feel
like the front office didn't expect that from the team.
I fel like they expected us to not play as
well because they had another vision in mine. Um. But
you know again, politics, business, you know, I don't want
(19:15):
to touch too much something that. You know, it's a
touchy subjects. I don't know, I hear you. I don't.
I don't want to. I don't want to sunk myself
in that in that aspect, So yeah, I don't want
you to. I don't want you to either. Man. I
just think It's so funny how like a team will
trade for a guy who's making what twenty seven million
a year because they want him to help them win,
and then they'll be like, yeah, you know what, we
don't want to win, Like we're just gonna sit you down,
(19:37):
Like I don't know what. It's just kind of backwards. Okay,
last break coming up, everybody, But don't go anywhere, because
when we come back, Andre dives into a little bit
of his time with the Lakers. He also talks a
little bit about being in the middle of the drama
between Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving that was going on
all year and how teams sort of handled that internally,
how he handled it personally. He also hits on that
Ben Simmons phone saga and what that really was about,
(19:59):
and also Draymond Green and the new media since that's
been a hot subject of discussion. Really cool stuff here,
So you won't want to go anywhere. We'll be right back.
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our guest, Andre Drummond You're only twenty eight years old,
and you go from being that, you know, big time
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max player, franchise player too, maybe in like a secondary
third third kind of fiddle role, which is fine. I mean,
you're still a top three, top four guy that can
help a championship quality team. But you know, you're twenty
eight and now you get the buy out the little
Vetman halfway through the season with the Lakers, then the
same thing with the Sixers, and if it makes you
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think about what people think the market value on you is,
but do you think that that Laker season like had
maybe you just decided, you know, I'm gonna sit out
for the remainder of this year just because I've been
sitting out for four months anyway, and then you know,
work on signing with another team the following year. That
maybe you wouldn't have been on a Vetman to consecutive
(21:01):
years in a row because that Laker thing, that Laker
situation was weird. Yeah, I thought it was weird too.
I feel like a lot was going on over there
that I didn't know of. But you know, injuries, it
was injuries. I mean, I don't think it was anything
we can controls out of my controls out of Brown
and had these control of injuries. Um, it is something
that you know, we just had to kind of live with. Man,
(21:21):
I didn't get a fair chance to really play with
those guys and build chemistry, not at all, you know,
not at all. I mean they didn't come back to
them at the last four or five games of the season,
and that's not enough time to build any kind of
chemistry with anybody. So, you know, it's something that we
just had to something I just had to adjust to
and you know, live with at the end of that
made the decision to go there something I had to
(21:42):
live with as a man and move on from it.
Was there was there no chance that you because I
kind of thought, like, hey, he didn't get a fair shake.
Maybe he decides he wants to go back to the
Lakers and run it back with a full healthy braun
a d and then really see what they can be.
But then you know, quickly within free agency, it was
like Drummond is not returning to the Lakers. You know,
(22:02):
So I was it ever in the cards for you
to come back or was it more so like all right,
you know, yeah, I didn't mind coming back, but I
just felt like you know, there was there was no
real pursuit, So I think that's kind of where it
was that. I don't think they called. They never really
called back or many real phone calls. So that's kind
of where that where that lies. And then you know
(22:23):
you get in the mix up of like being in
Philly and you're with Ben Simmons. Well, actually, before I
go to that, I do just have to say, like
that postseason run, that brief run where you guys lost
the Phoenix in l A like, had a D gotten hurt,
maybe a game later and or maybe if like bron
never got hurt and you and him were still able
to build some chemistry, you guys probably could have had
(22:45):
enough that got you over the hump even if a
D had gotten hurt. So I just as a Bronze
stand and an a D fan, you know, I'm I'm
bummed that Curry, Like I love Curry, but like you know,
the four rings equal to Bronze four rings whatever. I'm
just talking to when I get into the arguments with
my boys, like you know, I'm losing credibility around year,
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but I just feel like, yeah, so what I'm saying,
So I feel like, you know that core group of
you guys, like, because you know, having two bigs in
your front court, like you and a D it's the
same thing as a D and and uh to Marcus
Cousins when they played together, like how do you rebound?
How do you score in the pain? How do you
guard the two of you? Like teams play so small? Yeah,
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what's your point? So that's why I was always looking
forward to when I saw you they were getting you,
because I'm like, well, the rest of the league is
fucked because you got Braun already and then you're bringing
these two monsters like you got the Twin Towers. So
I mean, I don't know, it's unfortunate from a fans
perspective it didn't work out. But that leads me into
like the mix up that you got put into, you know,
going to Philadelphia, Like you have your career where you're
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trying to figure your stuff out, but you're thrown into
all this drama with like the Ben Simmons thing, and
then you get traded with him, and now you're involved
in all the drama that's going on in Brooklyn with
Kyrie Irving, and it's like, at the end of the day,
you're probably were just trying to hoop and you're surrounded
by all this extra noise. And I know you guys
in the locker room probably do a good job of
just eliminating all of that toxicity that comes from you know,
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outside sources. But like, what was it like being around
the ship with Ben and Philly and then bringing the
ship over Now you're involved with the ship with Ben
and Kyrie in Brooklyn, and it's like, damn bro Like,
can you guys, can you outside people just let us
play basketball? Like I think. I think with the Philly
situation where Ben I didn't really have much knowledge of it,
nor did I really give his ship because it had nothing.
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I mean, it had nothing to do with me. And
I know Ben personally. I mean, at the end of
the day, to grow man, he had his way of
doing what he wanted to do, and you know, you
gotta respect it. He didn't want to play, yeah, I mean,
it's it's simple and plain. He didn't. He didn't want
to play there anymore. What was the phone thing? Like,
there was no way that was a phone in his pocket.
It was this jersey right, Like if you zoom in
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on the picture, like there's not a phone in the
world that is that big. Yeah, people were trying to
make it. I mean I was there that. I mean
I was super a practicing o. But it was it
was a jersey stuffed in this pocket and people have
made it something way bigger than it's supposed to be.
At the end of the day, media, it's gonna be
the media and people are going to be people and
you can't you can't. You can't fight those type of battles.
At the end of the day. It is what it is.
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But is it distracting? Like is it like you're around me?
It's not for me. It's not because, like I said,
I can give a less what's going on because ain't
got nothing to do with me. It's not hindering our team.
We're not losing games and we're still playing really well.
At the end of the day. Drama's drama is drama
all throughout the league, but ours just happened to be
a little more publicized, right, Yeah. I just never you know,
from an outside perspective, you never know how much, like
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guys on the team let it seep in and you know,
because obviously you guys are all friends, you're around each other,
you know, for exactly seven months, Like conversation will come
up about it, and like you know, it's just not
when it seeps in and it's negative, Like you feel
bad for those guys because it's like, you know, he
had his mental health stuff going on, Kyrie didn't want
to get the vaccine. It's like, just stay out of
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people's business. But you guys are so your lives are
so publicized to begin with that, that's kind of an
impossible ask. I guess I mean, um, but you know
you guys in Brooklyn this year first round exit, like
you're back in the starting lineup, doing your thing, playing well, Um,
what kind of what do you think maybe went wrong
steered you guys? And if you don't even care because
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you don't think you're gonna go back to Brooklyn, you
don't even have to answer that. I don't know what
your plans are for free agency. I know, like you
can't talk to teams until much a live first. Um,
but is that is there any hints that that could
be a return? There? You looking for something a little
bit more? I enjoy I enjoy playing, I enjoy playing
in Brooklyn. I would definitely love to go back. I
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think we we we've built some great chemistry from the
time we were there too. You know, the playoffs obviously
didn't go our away. I think was a big factor
during that time. I think things were a little all
over the place, trying to do different things and get
guys adjusted with setting myself coming in and guys playing
new roles. I feel like that's been a story for
me the past few years of not having a full
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season with the team. So it's a team, right, How
how hard is that? I mean, you get thrown into that,
I think I think with anything left, and you're going
into something it's brand new and you're trying to make
it work on the fly, it's difficult. Is there is
there an uncomfortable phase for you where it's like it
takes a Yeah, like I enjoy it. I enjoy it
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being uncomfortable with something that I enjoy being a part
of it, because then then you grow from it. That's
nothing that's never too hard. At the end of the
game of basketball is never pretty, right, nor is the
ins and out of it. So whatever comes with it,
I try to embrace it and make the best of it.
I remember, like when I was younger, I was coming
through my own basketball trauma, and I remember just seeing
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Mellow always tweet on his or put out on his Instagram,
like growth and comfort do not co exist. And from
that moment, like it always rang true with me kind
of even if how no matter how cliche it is,
Like I was maybe sixteen when I read that, and
I was like, oh wow, that's actually like really beneficial
because yeah, like you know, you're uncomfortable, but like at
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the same time, it's helping you. Oh so when you're
bouncing around all these teams, like you've got to get
to know a fifteen new teammates, ten new coaches, a
bunch of new front office people, and at the same time,
I expected to go out there and be the dominant
a lot of pressure, man, Like it's like fucking you know,
obviously you guys are built for it. But at the
same time, like when ship doesn't work out maybe once,
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like people are human, you guys don't get like enough right,
It's there's not enough of like a empathy for what
you guys go through eighty two games on the body,
like I think about all the time. I'm like these
like because if we just wrapped up, you know, thirty
game college season and that is nothing compared to it's
only a forty minute game. First of all, you guys
play forty eight minutes and the competition is way, you know,
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completely different level, and you do it eighty two times.
It's like you got to really be a gotta be
a different kind of human being to be able to
go out and perform eighty two times in like a
six one span, then getting the postseason and try to
win championships. Like that's why I can't shoot on a
guy like Curry and of these dudes, because when you
can be that great for that long, like, more power
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to you, man, Like that's you can get. Even guys
like you, like you know, haven't had a ton of
postseason successful you're still a prime example of someone who
has showed the consistency throughout his entire career that it's
like you can do nothing but praise that, like because
it's not an easy feat to accomplish. So with that
being said, like you're twenty eight years old, You've still
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got so much more game left to play, Like I
would hate to see and I'm sure a lot of
your fans would hate to see, like you not being
on an NBA team next year, struggling to you know,
prove your value because it's already to me been proven.
So at twenty eight, like, where do you see yourself
navigating all of this? Like what what more do you
think maybe you need to work on to then prove
to a team like I do make sense for a
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couple of year deal for more than you know, the
veterans minimum, Like where where do you see that for yourself?
I think, you know, like, like I touched on earlier,
I think I've done my due diligence during this great
period of three years of you know, all the drama
that I think I've proved myself that I'm far more
valuable than what's been seen or what's been talked about.
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So it's a waiting game right now, so we didn't game.
I think I've done my job. I've played well. I've
done what I was supposed to do to ins and
outspoke on and off the court. So analysis time to
you know, read the reap, the reward of you know,
the hard work. Yeah, man, I hope it works out
for you. Hopefully you get hopefully the first five tweets
I see from loads or like an Andre Drummond, you know,
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three year x X amount million dollar deal because like
it really should be no weight game for you. Like,
there's thirty teams in the NBA, and there's a ton
of teams that don't have centers that are better than you.
So I don't know, you know, yeah, I mean, and
this is just from an outside perspective of like someone
who is just a big time fan of the NBA
that you know, wants to get involved in the NBA
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watching it every day is like, like, there's no there's
not ten centers in the league better than you, So
for you to not have some security is weird. Um.
The last couple of things that I want to just
hit you with if we touched on some of that
media stuff and you know, currying them the Warriors they
win their fourth title, where do you feel about all
that stuff with like the Draymond media, Like, how do
you feel about some of that stuff? I think it's
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a it's a cool I mean, congratulations to the words obviously.
I think it's a cool thing what Draymond is doing.
I think it's actually pretty fucking crazy too, because he's
doing it like after game regardless of when wins are
lost lost. So I think it's really, I think it's
really cool that he's doing that because it gives fans
an opportunity to see like his insight of like what
he's dealing with day in and day out, and what's
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what his opinion is of other players, how he feels
about himself. I mean, I think it's a cool idea.
I means something that I've thought about doing myself, because
it's like them, people always want to know what we're doing,
what we're thinking, how we feel after wins and losses,
what we think about other players. Like people crave that,
like fans crave that type of content. So I think
for him to do that and have it on such
a big platform because if people look forward to the
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ship he's about to say after games, I even like
I wasn't looking at it at first, like manywhere through
the season, let me start listening to what s because
every day I've seen him at my time talking about something.
So it's it's become something that it is the norm
now and it wasn't something that was normal back when
we first started coming in like early in our career.
So right, I think media has taken over taking over
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sports completely. It's it's putting the power in the player's hands. Yeah,
and it's it's always funny too, because, like, you know,
he's playing in an NBA Finals game and he was
saying like he's still doing it right, like he and
I was crazy. I was questioning myself like he like,
before they made the finals, I'm like, okay, so they
get to the finals, like, are we going to get
the same pods after the guests? Like you're in the finals? Like,
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and then he said after one of them, he was like, alright, man,
it's like two o'clock in the morning, i gotta go
get something to eat. And I'm like, this motherfucker is crazy,
Like you don't care. He just had to think about
it like this, imagine it image if they lost, what
would have been said? Yeah, Like does he get on
the mic like if they're if they're down three to
or say, there they lose game seven. If there was
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a game seven, did you get on the mic for
the game and talk about it? Like I think he
would have. And that's the thing I know. I know
dreaming very well, and I think he would have done
it too, Like I don't think he really cares. And
that's the funniest thing about him. He doesn't give a
funk about nothing. Yeah, he don't care about nobody's opinion,
didn't care about what you think about him, doesn't care
about what your opinion is. He's gonna stay his opinion.
He's gonna say what he has to say. What do
you like it or not? Yeah, I really loved him
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getting up there on the podium, like the postgame press
conference podium, in front of all the media, and he
just hosted the podcast right there, like after the dub.
They had like a thirty minute conversation him, andre Iguadala
and Clay and I was like, that's the best place
you could have done it. Get it out of the
way that yeah, I mean like and then his producer
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will take care of it and post it. But I
just think it's an interesting subject because you see on
First Take every day now like Stephen A. J. J. Reddick,
Kendrick Perkins, all these guys are discussing like what do
they think of the new media, and they all have
interesting perspectives on it. At the end of the day,
everybody pretty much supports it because it's like, you know,
it's a player talking about the game. It's a player
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giving his insight, like you said, there's a million people
in the basketball world that once you guys finish your game,
they're always itching for more. They're like, I wanna know
what's going on after the game, Like what's the what's
the juice that they could give us. In Draymond, he
doesn't really hold back. He kind of just like whatever
says what it is and it Yeah, it makes for
a great content. Um So, you know, well, first of all,
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I mean I don't I could talk to you about
hoops all day, but I'm not gonna keep you. Um So,
I just want to appreciate you coming on share short sharing,
Appreciate you for bizarre walk on journey that was definitely
nothing like my five year walk on journey. So um,
I appreciate that, appreciate your answering some NBA questions, and
you know, I wish you the best of luck. Man.
I hope that you know this contract stuff works out
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for you. So thank you. So I just wanted to
give you this rundown because, like you know, I started
this podcast and like you try to get guests and
all the time, like and obviously like I was my
my producer, like got me in touch with Mike and
then I you know, I was able to get it done.
But I like the whole time, I'm like telling my brother,
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I'm like, no, I won't believe it until I see it,
Like because I had any big, big name person, I
Am not going to believe it's going to come on
the podcast until I see them screen. Yeah. So like
the whole time, I'm like trying not to jinx it.
And I'm not even trying to sound like a fanboy.
It's just like you helped the show immensely, you know
what I mean, Like I greatly appreciate this. Yeah, I
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appreciate Like I you know, I started this back in
September with like the n I L stuff, signed a
deal with iHeart Radio, and we're still kind of trying
to get off the ground, you know. So it's like
it was really important to have, like for me to
have have you come on the show. So I'm very
appreciative of it, even if we didn't have enough, even
if we didn't have enough walk on stuff to talk about,
but yeah, I'd love to send you. Like I'm working
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on getting some merchandise down, um, some some small stuff
like um, it's like a mimic of like the NBA
Eatum video game. Like that logo that uh font wise
just a mimic of that because it was always one
of my favorite games. Um, I'm sure you're like a
fucking quadruple X. I don't know, Like what are you wear?
So just XL. Yeah, I got a little, I got
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a little torso. Man, you're six eleven, you're not You're
not an XL. I'm an excel. I'm a large XCEL.
All right, man, I'll let you get going. I appreciate
you taking a time. Man. Hopefully see you down the
line when I hopefully get my foot in that NBA door.
But I appreciate you, man, love love man, Thank you
all right, man, see you all right, Walkie Tuckies. And
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that's a wrap for episode twelve. Really just so cool
to get Andre on the show. Really fun getting the
chance to talk hoops would a hooper, you know, just
sitting here with him kicking it and getting his perspective
and his take on some of these things was really
fun and special for me as I um embark on
this interviewing journey with Walkie Talkies Podcast. I really do
look forward to whichever other big name former walk On
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wants to come on the show. Oh and vibe out man.
Maybe like a Baker Mayfield, a J. J. Watt. I
don't know about Antonio Brown with all that stuff. Maybe
an old head like a Scottie Pippen at John starks Man.
What can we do to get these guys on this show.
I know they all got some cool walk on stories.
Jeff HORNI sec you know there's some Jim Beheim. There's
a there's a ton of a man. So we can
check Andrea off the list. We've got to get the
rest of the mom. But slow and steady wins a race,
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and this was a special one today, so I hope
everyone enjoyed. And again, if anyone wants some new merchandise
for Walkie Talkies Podcast, check it out on shop Crashing
Hoops dot com. Again, the link is in the episode
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is to make sure you leave us that review if
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Both of those things and even if you want to
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and more so just greatly appreciate. You know whoever is
tuning in weekly and listen to today's episode, So thank
you all again for listening. This episode truly was special
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and uh groundbreaking for Walkie Talkies podcast. So um, I'll
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Welcome to Walkie Talkies Podcast. This is episode twelve of
the podcast. We are here on the College Athletes Network,
featured on I Heart Radio, and I'm your host No Bano.
I do want to thank you all for choosing Walkie
Talkies Podcast today as you drive into work, as you
amo your lawns, whatever it is you're doing, because today
we do have another really special episode. But as always,
first please make sure you are leaving the show a
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reviews are really huge for us, so I do appreciate it.
And also make sure if you are enjoying what you're
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so you don't miss any future episodes. And now let's
get this hell crack a man, because I can't wait
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to get into this interview. Man. Today's episode is really crazy,
like the fact that it came about the fact that
it happened, and you click the episode, so you know
who I'm about to introduce. But you know, our guest
does happen to be one of the most highly regarded
walk ons in the history of walk ons. Google him.
The name is Andre Drummond Man, twenty eight year old,
to time NBA All Star, in All NBA Third Team selection,
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four time rebounding leader, and you'll hear me rattle off
much more of some of his amazing statistical feats as
the interview goes on. But yes, this man was a
walk on at Yukon, and he was not your traditional
walk on, which is kind of where the interview will
start and he'll talk about that that process. Believe it
or not, though Dre did have a couple of funny
moments at Yukon that did kind of give off the
(01:54):
walk on vibe, which we're really cool to hear about um,
because you wouldn't think that anything would exist, But there
were two little ones that he touched on that we're funny.
And from there though, we do get into how the
last few years of his NBA career have gone, with
being on five teams in three different seasons and what
he hopes for this upcoming season in two heading into
free agency in just a couple of days, um, you know,
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and there's so much inside of all of that, with
you know, him playing with Joe l Embiid, Ben Simmons,
Kyrie Irving, Lebron, James Anthony Davis to buy out the
situation in Cleveland. Like, there's a lot of things that
we do kind of touch on, even Draymond Green and
the new media, since that's a popping topic, man, I
wanted to hear what he had to say about it.
That was some cool stuff too. So two side notes
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in regards to the episode. Dre did have some choppy
audio in the beginning of our interview. I swear I
was not laughing by myself. Man. We had a good
time and it does not last that long, and honestly,
I probably just noticed more of where it's at than
any of you listeners will. But the interview overall sounds
great and we cleared it up pretty quickly, so no
worries there. Did just want to address that I didn't
want anyone thinking that I was producing shitty quality episodes,
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and that was something on my m man. I want
these things to be as pristine and perfect as possible,
just some unfortunate a hiccup on his side, but really,
it literally does not matter. I'm ramming about something that
doesn't matter, if so let's get on with it. Secondly,
I left some of our post episode talk in there.
It's very brief, and it was after I initially thanked
him and ended the the actual episode, So there is
essentially two endings. Both are small, both are short, not
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a big deal. But my point is that I left
the second one in there because it's just like a
dumb little rundown of our candid convo about me getting
him on the show, and you know just how much
he helps Walkie Talkies by coming on this show, and
just how appreciative I am for him to do that.
I do also mention to him the Walkie Talkies merchandise
that I'm gonna be sending out to him. I asked
him his size and uh, you know, what he would
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wear and whatever, and it just cannot believe the size
that he said he was does not make any sense.
I think it's pretty funny, but you have to stick
around to the end to get to that. So I
left that in so that you all know that if
you know drum is wearing my stuff, then you should
be too, you know what I'm saying. So if any
of you listeners out there are interested in the first
round of Walkie Talkies merchandise with our little NBA Street
Vibe NBA Street mimic from the video game back in
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the day, had just launched our first few items, you
can find and support the Waukie Tuckies Gang by visiting
shop Crashing hoops dot com and I'll leave that link
in the show description below so you can click right
on it. There will be some even better designs on
the way, but this is a really good place for
us to start, as I finished up the rest of
the show's branding, But go check that out if you
think you'd have any interest anyway, That's enough for me.
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I'm really excited to get into today's interview. Man, this
this conversation was special, this moment for the podcast. It's huge.
So let's get into today's interview with former Yukon men's
basketball walk on crazy to even say that, and now
NBA star Andre Drummond. It's good, man, hear me, what's
going on? But you're going good, bro. I appreciate you
taking some time to do this, all right, So you
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know from the jump, you were a five star coming
out of high school, ranked number two in the country,
behind Anthony Davis number one in the country. Where you know,
I thought A d was one spot. You're behind him.
Oh that's right, Okay, Yeah, So when I was looking
at top one hundred, it had him than you, but um,
that's I ended up going back up again. Um. It's
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funny to me, man, because when people google search like
the best walk ons like you get regarded as one
of the best, if not the best. But it's just
funny because you know, a six or eleven, two hundred
sixty five pound dude is not a conventional walk on.
You definitely shouldn't have been. You should not have had
that title ever. So it's just hilarious to me that,
you know, you're kind of part of this walkie talkies gang.
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So happy to have you on the show. But I'll
set this set the stage from there. Originally gonna go
to prep school in Massachusetts before college in twenty eleven,
and then kind of abruptly in late August, decided to
commit to yukon Um And that decision is kind of
what triggered you being a walk on, if I have
that correctly. So what made you change your mind to
go to college and what ended up happening that made
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you be considered a walk on for that one year? Well,
I had I had a family meeting maybe like a
few weeks before like the high school semester started, and
I think we all just decided that it was best
for me to go to college because high school has
become very very easy for me, and I wasn't really
having much I wasn't wasn't having much fun anymore. So
I just reclassified, and I want I decided to go
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to Yukon. They didn't have any more scholarships and I
really wanted to go there, and so I just said,
you know what, might just take take the hit on
the chin and just paid for a year. I didn't
play as staying long anyway, So I just paid back
my student loans up right. So I mean you technically
were a walk on? Were you, like you don't have
to answer this if it's it's not allowed, but like,
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were they giving you any sort of money on the
side that was like helping that was maybe legal at
the time, And obviously there was no n I l ship,
but like did you Because when I when I did
decided to go, it was like a really big thing.
I got red flag and I couldn't be at school
for like a month because they were there investigating like
why isn't number one playing the country going to the
school and paying I really, I really wanted to play there,
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Like I really wanted to play with him. I want
to had a relationship with him as a kid too,
you know, because I seemed to be in Jerome Dice
used to get the air braided in my haunt Salan,
so I used to go to all their games as
the kids. I already had a relationship with him, So
I really, you know, wanted to stay home and play there.
So I just took the year and just said I'll,
you know, suck it up and play a year, paid
for it, and go from there. So when you say
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suck it up, was it strictly because of the fact
that it was coming out of your own pocket? That
was like, man, I'm gonna take these loans out and
just you know, do what I gotta do because I'm
going to be here for one year. Was that the
main thing about like sucking it up? Well, I didn't
really know how long it was gonna be there, because
I didn't really in a million years had a dream
i'd be in a position I'm in now. This is
all still so surreal to me. I just you know,
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this took a chance. I've been on myself. I guess
we can call it that better myself at that point
in time, I just said, I gotta take it this
year and take it a serious possible in play as
hard as I can, and you know, for the best.
So the loans you took out, and I'm assuming I'm
great assumption here, probably pretty obvious, but right when you
got drafted, that was probably your first big payment, just
to get those off your back. I didn't even buy
a car or house. I pay my two loans back
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and then I moved out to Detroit the next day. Yeah,
that makes that makes sense. Get those out of the way.
Don't let the interest a crew all that. I'm in
the same boat, man, I'm trying to I'm trying to
get out in front of these before my six month
grace period is out of the way, because I got
a fatass monthly check coming. Um. But obviously, when you know,
like you know, there's millions of dollars on the table
coming your way. Like obviously all the puzzle pieces aligne
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the way they're supposed to. Like you're gonna be putting
a position where those loans don't matter. Like I remember
when I went to college, I was like, listen, I'm
not going to the NBA, but like, I'm gonna try
to put myself in a position where three or four
years out of college, like the loans are a joke.
They're just like because like you said, bet on myself
whatever it is that I'm trying to do. Um because
you don't have that belief whether you're gonna go be
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an NBA, NFL player, make millions of dollars off the bat,
you know, whatever else it is you're gonna do. You
gotta believe in yourself that like that's the goal. Like fun,
the loans, you're gonna pay them back, don't matter. U
go ahead, agree with you? Right? Yeah. So I just
think it's a crazy one year ride. Like was there
anything that went on there there? There couldn't have been,
but you know, obviously you saw how maybe your average
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walk on on the team that you were teammates with
at the time was maybe treated like you were not
treated that same way. But was there anything that would
have maybe maybe made you feel like, you know, you
understood what an actual walk on like went through. No, Okay,
yeah I didn't think, so I'm not really sure. When
I got there played right away, I almost forgot I
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wasn't walk on at a certain point certain points of
times too well, actually, you know what not the time
that I remember that was h the cafeteria time. Do
you know, scholarship back they got stipends and they got
free food. I had to like physically like get a
credit card from like city bank at the campus and
like pay for my food because I wasn't a scholarship Wow. Okay,
so that was like the main thing, normal thing I
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had to do. And I didn't get to live with
the bassel players, so I lived in a hounted dorm.
Kind of really good grades out of high school, so
that also helped me get financial lead. So I had
to like stay in the honest dorm. So I was
like a mile away from the practice facility, and I
was like late every day because at the bottom campus. Okay,
so there was like at least a little bit of
like a little bit of normalcy there. That's kind of
funny that you were. There was nothing that could do.
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They couldn't put you in the same apartment. I ended
up moving there like maybe like maybe way through the season,
they're like, all right, you keep coming late to everything.
We need to me to do something. Yeah, right, uh
at hill top, at the top of the hill, by
the by the arena. That's great, all right. So really,
like I figured with you being a walk on, there
wasn't much to it because you were a walk on
that played. You know, I had a good first year.
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And at what point in that in that season was
it a foregone conclusion you'd enter the draft or was
it a foregone conclusion before you had even stepped on
the Yukon court. I think when we lost to Iowa
Stay in the first round, and then I think the
news came out a few weeks later that we were
banned from the tournament. I can't remember why they were
banned for the tournament again after that year, but we
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were banned. So I was like, I'm not I'm not
going back. Yeah, why would you? Yeah, I mean, like
the kids live or die, Like live or died from
those moments playing in like the nub A tournament and
you had no chance to even if you guys were
rounding or I was, like, I think I was in
like seventh grade when you were in college, so I
don't even remember what's going on at that point. But
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if they were banned and you got bounced in the
first round of whatever, if you guys were in the
Big Easter, I don't even know what conference you were
in at that point in time. But yes, of course
the Big East was around and is still around. I
was just dumb and not in tune with much college
basketball at that point in time, as like a sixth
or seventh grader. And yes, I'm sorry that the break
came so early in this episode. However, please stay with us.
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When we come back, we will have some great extended
NBA talk on Andre's last few years in the league,
being on five different teams in the last three seasons,
and what that roller coaster ride has been like for him.
So stay with us. We'll be right back. Walkie Tuckies
podcast is back, and let's get right into my next
question for our special walk on guest, Andre Drummond. Um.
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All right, so let's as I always like to do
with the show, you take that very small walk on
journey that you had. It's more just more so just
funny that you even get the title of a walk
on um. But I like to apply it into like
the current guests field of work. You're obviously have hapens
to be a successful NBA career, So I just want
to shift gears into that because you've had, you know,
an interesting ride these last three three and a half years.
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Like you know, by your second season you're averaging thirteen
points thirteen rebounds. Never averaged anything less than that for
the next seven years, which is you know, insane dominance
and really not appreciate it enough. If you if I
can give my opinion, you had five seasons averaging fourteen
plus rebounds. So my point was saying, all that is,
like throughout those years, you make a hundred and sixty
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million bucks just an NBA contracts. And these last few years, though,
like you're bouncing around from team to team, you're getting
hit with like Vetman here, Vetman their contract buy out,
Like in that three year span, can you talk about
like what that's been like and kind of just how
you've been able to handle that, Like the adversity of
bouncing around city to city, team to team, coaches, different coaches,
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different teammates, you know, and not really finding a complete
home these last couple years after all that dominance that
I'm talking about, Like it had to be a weird
kind of a Juben phase for you. For me, it
was definitely a unique one. Um, you know, being in
the same place for so long, playing in Detroit for
eight seasons and being traded to Cleveland and the pandemic happened,
and then when I come back to Cleveland, you know,
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we were fifth or fifth in the rankings for halfway
through the year. Then they sent me out for four months.
That was definitely a mental struggle for me. It was
definitely hard to accept and to deal with a lot
of a lot of Uh, it was. It was a lot.
It was a lot. You know, I haven't spoke about
two often, so I'm trying to like bring back memories
of it, you know, something I tried to kind of
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you know, it was a it was a learning experience
to me. It was humbling, Uh it was. It was
a moment of oh, ship, like this is a real business,
and I loved it. I embraced it. I knew what
I needed to do to get myself back into a
situation where you know, people don't forget because you know,
I feel like during the pandemic it was like so
all over the place, and my contract was expiring, you know,
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kind of like took people's minds off of what I
was doing previous years. So for me, it was humbling,
you know it little fire under my ass. I was.
I was ready to go once I came back with
the situation with Philly, you know, coming off the bench
or something I've never done in my entire life. Also
another humbling experience. You mean, to be able to play
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behind a guy like Joel Embia, who I've had constant
battles throughout my career. Also, it was kind of like
a gut wrenching moment for me because no, it was
it was never It was never beef. And that's something
I say publicly all time. Was never beef. I'm just
a guy that's never backed down to him, and I
think that's something he really respected about me. And he
kills a lot of the bigs in the league. Like
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I'm not scared, Like I've never been afraid to play
against him, regardless of him having great games against me
as an excellent basketball player. Uh, one of the most
talented biggs I've ever seen or played against in my lifetime.
But I'm not a bit like I'm like, I'm gonna
keep I'm gonna keep coming for you, regardless of how
well you play. And he knows that, like I'm not
backing down. I'm gonna keep coming to him and keep
playing hard. But to play behind a guy like that, um,
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it was tough for me because like I enjoyed playing
against him, and I was so used to being the
start of my team. But again another humbling experience for me.
And I learned so much from him. I learned a
lot from playing for Doc, who also a family friend
of mine, knowing him since I was sixteen. So to
have that that chance to play for a guy like
that who has such a high caliber of wins and
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you know his history and legacy what he's done and
coaching it is incredible. So I love dr Death. I
love playing for him. Uh. Then going being traded to
Brooklyn again, being traded again and going to Brooklyn and
like kind of getting a glimpse of kind of reality
of you know, where I used to be at starting
again and being a focal point for a team and
helping a team win and turning their season around. I
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started seeing things start to turn a little bit from me.
And now I'm at a point now where it's a
waiting game. You know, the draft is in a few
days uh freet and sees a couple of days after.
So it's kind of just seeing where my hard work
is taking me these past couple of years, and hopefully
I'm award Hope I'm rewarded properly. At the end of
the day. This game is something that is not very
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very h what's the word I'm looking for, um, fair? Yeah,
I wouldn't say fair, but it's it's it's it's a
business at the end of the day. It's a business
the end of the day. And you know, politics are
always involved in you know, there's always egos and points
of views of how people do certain things. So I
just try to play the game the right way, play
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as hard as I can, do what I'm supposed to
do and put it to the best of my ability.
So obviously, hopefully the rewards where it's supposed to be
the summer until then, right, It's crazy to me because,
like from a fans perspective, um, you know you see
the value of a player like I mentioned all your
your accolades, like you had five straight seasons or five
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different seasons of fourteen plus rebounds a game, and you
had seven years where you never averaged less than thirteen
and thirteen. But all it takes is that little hiccup
in Cleveland and that bumping the road in in l
A when you didn't even really get a full chance
to play along side Braun and a d and that group,
and then all of a sudden, like Andre Drummond's stock
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has looked at as like, oh, he's not that valuable
in today's NBA, Like he's a six eleven center that
can't step outside and shoot the three. And that's probably
like the main thing that you know, all these front offices,
Yeah right, like what yeah? What is? What else? Is?
What else is your argument for why you wouldn't want
And honestly, that argument alone, to me is such is
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so shitty because like it's bullshit, it's bullshit. So I
just think it's crazy because I just want to rewind briefly,
like what in that Cleveland thing do you think happened?
Where they were like, Yo, we're gonna set you out
for four months, like you had the big contract. I
know they were probably trying to buy you out, but
I remember when you got traded there, I was like,
you know, Cleveland's Cleveland, probably not going to be that great,
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but like he definitely helps to the mix of what
they got going on there with that core. But then
it felt like you never even really got a fair
shot at like like building something there before. They were
just like not, you know, like we're just going to
sit you out and try to get off your contract.
Like what do you what do you think started that?
I mean, I think I think we were doing something
that they weren't expecting. I think they were they're planning
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was to like start playing a lot younger and kind
of revamping their team. And I feel like when I
when I came, I demanded excellence from everybody. I demanded that,
Like I wasn't Like anybody can tell you the day
from day one, when I first got there and they
were playing a certain way that I wasn't comfortable with,
I called I called the time out. I think I
forgot who the first game was because maybe it was
the Clippers or I can't remember what was, but I
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remember I called the time out and I was screaming
to everybody, like I remember vividly, like I was like, Yo,
we're not here to fucking lose basketball games. I don't
care what your record is, Like I want to win,
like we can win. We have a really good team,
Like I remember telling these guys that, I feel like
from that day for like that team started believing in themselves.
We started playing, We started playing a lot better, started
jelling a lot better, and then obviould see the pandemic happening.
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When we came back, I started playing again. We were
fifth in the East, the entire the entire way, Like
our confidences are the all time high. And I feel
like the front office didn't expect that from the team.
I fel like they expected us to not play as
well because they had another vision in mine. Um. But
you know again, politics, business, you know, I don't want
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to touch too much something that. You know, it's a
touchy subjects. I don't know, I hear you. I don't.
I don't want to. I don't want to sunk myself
in that in that aspect, So yeah, I don't want
you to. I don't want you to either. Man. I
just think It's so funny how like a team will
trade for a guy who's making what twenty seven million
a year because they want him to help them win,
and then they'll be like, yeah, you know what, we
don't want to win, Like we're just gonna sit you down,
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Like I don't know what. It's just kind of backwards. Okay,
last break coming up, everybody, But don't go anywhere, because
when we come back, Andre dives into a little bit
of his time with the Lakers. He also talks a
little bit about being in the middle of the drama
between Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving that was going on
all year and how teams sort of handled that internally,
how he handled it personally. He also hits on that
Ben Simmons phone saga and what that really was about,
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and also Draymond Green and the new media since that's
been a hot subject of discussion. Really cool stuff here,
So you won't want to go anywhere. We'll be right back.
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our guest, Andre Drummond You're only twenty eight years old,
and you go from being that, you know, big time
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max player, franchise player too, maybe in like a secondary
third third kind of fiddle role, which is fine. I mean,
you're still a top three, top four guy that can
help a championship quality team. But you know, you're twenty
eight and now you get the buy out the little
Vetman halfway through the season with the Lakers, then the
same thing with the Sixers, and if it makes you
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think about what people think the market value on you is,
but do you think that that Laker season like had
maybe you just decided, you know, I'm gonna sit out
for the remainder of this year just because I've been
sitting out for four months anyway, and then you know,
work on signing with another team the following year. That
maybe you wouldn't have been on a Vetman to consecutive
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years in a row because that Laker thing, that Laker
situation was weird. Yeah, I thought it was weird too.
I feel like a lot was going on over there
that I didn't know of. But you know, injuries, it
was injuries. I mean, I don't think it was anything
we can controls out of my controls out of Brown
and had these control of injuries. Um, it is something
that you know, we just had to kind of live with. Man,
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I didn't get a fair chance to really play with
those guys and build chemistry, not at all, you know,
not at all. I mean they didn't come back to
them at the last four or five games of the season,
and that's not enough time to build any kind of
chemistry with anybody. So, you know, it's something that we
just had to something I just had to adjust to
and you know, live with at the end of that
made the decision to go there something I had to
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live with as a man and move on from it.
Was there was there no chance that you because I
kind of thought, like, hey, he didn't get a fair shake.
Maybe he decides he wants to go back to the
Lakers and run it back with a full healthy braun
a d and then really see what they can be.
But then you know, quickly within free agency, it was
like Drummond is not returning to the Lakers. You know,
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So I was it ever in the cards for you
to come back or was it more so like all right,
you know, yeah, I didn't mind coming back, but I
just felt like you know, there was there was no
real pursuit, So I think that's kind of where it
was that. I don't think they called. They never really
called back or many real phone calls. So that's kind
of where that where that lies. And then you know
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you get in the mix up of like being in
Philly and you're with Ben Simmons. Well, actually, before I
go to that, I do just have to say, like
that postseason run, that brief run where you guys lost
the Phoenix in l A like, had a D gotten hurt,
maybe a game later and or maybe if like bron
never got hurt and you and him were still able
to build some chemistry, you guys probably could have had
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enough that got you over the hump even if a
D had gotten hurt. So I just as a Bronze
stand and an a D fan, you know, I'm I'm
bummed that Curry, Like I love Curry, but like you know,
the four rings equal to Bronze four rings whatever. I'm
just talking to when I get into the arguments with
my boys, like you know, I'm losing credibility around year,
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but I just feel like, yeah, so what I'm saying,
So I feel like, you know that core group of
you guys, like, because you know, having two bigs in
your front court, like you and a D it's the
same thing as a D and and uh to Marcus
Cousins when they played together, like how do you rebound?
How do you score in the pain? How do you
guard the two of you? Like teams play so small? Yeah,
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what's your point? So that's why I was always looking
forward to when I saw you they were getting you,
because I'm like, well, the rest of the league is
fucked because you got Braun already and then you're bringing
these two monsters like you got the Twin Towers. So
I mean, I don't know, it's unfortunate from a fans
perspective it didn't work out. But that leads me into
like the mix up that you got put into, you know,
going to Philadelphia, Like you have your career where you're
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trying to figure your stuff out, but you're thrown into
all this drama with like the Ben Simmons thing, and
then you get traded with him, and now you're involved
in all the drama that's going on in Brooklyn with
Kyrie Irving, and it's like, at the end of the day,
you're probably were just trying to hoop and you're surrounded
by all this extra noise. And I know you guys
in the locker room probably do a good job of
just eliminating all of that toxicity that comes from you know,
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outside sources. But like, what was it like being around
the ship with Ben and Philly and then bringing the
ship over Now you're involved with the ship with Ben
and Kyrie in Brooklyn, and it's like, damn bro Like,
can you guys, can you outside people just let us
play basketball? Like I think. I think with the Philly
situation where Ben I didn't really have much knowledge of it,
nor did I really give his ship because it had nothing.
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I mean, it had nothing to do with me. And
I know Ben personally. I mean, at the end of
the day, to grow man, he had his way of
doing what he wanted to do, and you know, you
gotta respect it. He didn't want to play, yeah, I mean,
it's it's simple and plain. He didn't. He didn't want
to play there anymore. What was the phone thing? Like,
there was no way that was a phone in his pocket.
It was this jersey right, Like if you zoom in
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on the picture, like there's not a phone in the
world that is that big. Yeah, people were trying to
make it. I mean I was there that. I mean
I was super a practicing o. But it was it
was a jersey stuffed in this pocket and people have
made it something way bigger than it's supposed to be.
At the end of the day, media, it's gonna be
the media and people are going to be people and
you can't you can't. You can't fight those type of battles.
At the end of the day. It is what it is.
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But is it distracting? Like is it like you're around me?
It's not for me. It's not because, like I said,
I can give a less what's going on because ain't
got nothing to do with me. It's not hindering our team.
We're not losing games and we're still playing really well.
At the end of the day. Drama's drama is drama
all throughout the league, but ours just happened to be
a little more publicized, right, Yeah. I just never you know,
from an outside perspective, you never know how much, like
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guys on the team let it seep in and you know,
because obviously you guys are all friends, you're around each other,
you know, for exactly seven months, Like conversation will come
up about it, and like you know, it's just not
when it seeps in and it's negative, Like you feel
bad for those guys because it's like, you know, he
had his mental health stuff going on, Kyrie didn't want
to get the vaccine. It's like, just stay out of
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people's business. But you guys are so your lives are
so publicized to begin with that, that's kind of an
impossible ask. I guess I mean, um, but you know
you guys in Brooklyn this year first round exit, like
you're back in the starting lineup, doing your thing, playing well, Um,
what kind of what do you think maybe went wrong
steered you guys? And if you don't even care because
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you don't think you're gonna go back to Brooklyn, you
don't even have to answer that. I don't know what
your plans are for free agency. I know, like you
can't talk to teams until much a live first. Um,
but is that is there any hints that that could
be a return? There? You looking for something a little
bit more? I enjoy I enjoy playing, I enjoy playing
in Brooklyn. I would definitely love to go back. I
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think we we we've built some great chemistry from the
time we were there too. You know, the playoffs obviously
didn't go our away. I think was a big factor
during that time. I think things were a little all
over the place, trying to do different things and get
guys adjusted with setting myself coming in and guys playing
new roles. I feel like that's been a story for
me the past few years of not having a full
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season with the team. So it's a team, right, How
how hard is that? I mean, you get thrown into that,
I think I think with anything left, and you're going
into something it's brand new and you're trying to make
it work on the fly, it's difficult. Is there is
there an uncomfortable phase for you where it's like it
takes a Yeah, like I enjoy it. I enjoy it
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being uncomfortable with something that I enjoy being a part
of it, because then then you grow from it. That's
nothing that's never too hard. At the end of the
game of basketball is never pretty, right, nor is the
ins and out of it. So whatever comes with it,
I try to embrace it and make the best of it.
I remember, like when I was younger, I was coming
through my own basketball trauma, and I remember just seeing
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Mellow always tweet on his or put out on his Instagram,
like growth and comfort do not co exist. And from
that moment, like it always rang true with me kind
of even if how no matter how cliche it is,
Like I was maybe sixteen when I read that, and
I was like, oh wow, that's actually like really beneficial
because yeah, like you know, you're uncomfortable, but like at
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the same time, it's helping you. Oh so when you're
bouncing around all these teams, like you've got to get
to know a fifteen new teammates, ten new coaches, a
bunch of new front office people, and at the same time,
I expected to go out there and be the dominant
a lot of pressure, man, Like it's like fucking you know,
obviously you guys are built for it. But at the
same time, like when ship doesn't work out maybe once,
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like people are human, you guys don't get like enough right,
It's there's not enough of like a empathy for what
you guys go through eighty two games on the body,
like I think about all the time. I'm like these
like because if we just wrapped up, you know, thirty
game college season and that is nothing compared to it's
only a forty minute game. First of all, you guys
play forty eight minutes and the competition is way, you know,
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completely different level, and you do it eighty two times.
It's like you got to really be a gotta be
a different kind of human being to be able to
go out and perform eighty two times in like a
six one span, then getting the postseason and try to
win championships. Like that's why I can't shoot on a
guy like Curry and of these dudes, because when you
can be that great for that long, like, more power
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to you, man, Like that's you can get. Even guys
like you, like you know, haven't had a ton of
postseason successful you're still a prime example of someone who
has showed the consistency throughout his entire career that it's
like you can do nothing but praise that, like because
it's not an easy feat to accomplish. So with that
being said, like you're twenty eight years old, You've still
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got so much more game left to play, Like I
would hate to see and I'm sure a lot of
your fans would hate to see, like you not being
on an NBA team next year, struggling to you know,
prove your value because it's already to me been proven.
So at twenty eight, like, where do you see yourself
navigating all of this? Like what what more do you
think maybe you need to work on to then prove
to a team like I do make sense for a
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couple of year deal for more than you know, the
veterans minimum, Like where where do you see that for yourself?
I think, you know, like, like I touched on earlier,
I think I've done my due diligence during this great
period of three years of you know, all the drama
that I think I've proved myself that I'm far more
valuable than what's been seen or what's been talked about.
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So it's a waiting game right now, so we didn't game.
I think I've done my job. I've played well. I've
done what I was supposed to do to ins and
outspoke on and off the court. So analysis time to
you know, read the reap, the reward of you know,
the hard work. Yeah, man, I hope it works out
for you. Hopefully you get hopefully the first five tweets
I see from loads or like an Andre Drummond, you know,
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three year x X amount million dollar deal because like
it really should be no weight game for you. Like,
there's thirty teams in the NBA, and there's a ton
of teams that don't have centers that are better than you.
So I don't know, you know, yeah, I mean, and
this is just from an outside perspective of like someone
who is just a big time fan of the NBA
that you know, wants to get involved in the NBA
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watching it every day is like, like, there's no there's
not ten centers in the league better than you, So
for you to not have some security is weird. Um.
The last couple of things that I want to just
hit you with if we touched on some of that
media stuff and you know, currying them the Warriors they
win their fourth title, where do you feel about all
that stuff with like the Draymond media, Like, how do
you feel about some of that stuff? I think it's
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a it's a cool I mean, congratulations to the words obviously.
I think it's a cool thing what Draymond is doing.
I think it's actually pretty fucking crazy too, because he's
doing it like after game regardless of when wins are
lost lost. So I think it's really, I think it's
really cool that he's doing that because it gives fans
an opportunity to see like his insight of like what
he's dealing with day in and day out, and what's
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what his opinion is of other players, how he feels
about himself. I mean, I think it's a cool idea.
I means something that I've thought about doing myself, because
it's like them, people always want to know what we're doing,
what we're thinking, how we feel after wins and losses,
what we think about other players. Like people crave that,
like fans crave that type of content. So I think
for him to do that and have it on such
a big platform because if people look forward to the
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ship he's about to say after games, I even like
I wasn't looking at it at first, like manywhere through
the season, let me start listening to what s because
every day I've seen him at my time talking about something.
So it's it's become something that it is the norm
now and it wasn't something that was normal back when
we first started coming in like early in our career.
So right, I think media has taken over taking over
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sports completely. It's it's putting the power in the player's hands. Yeah,
and it's it's always funny too, because, like, you know,
he's playing in an NBA Finals game and he was
saying like he's still doing it right, like he and
I was crazy. I was questioning myself like he like,
before they made the finals, I'm like, okay, so they
get to the finals, like, are we going to get
the same pods after the guests? Like you're in the finals? Like,
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and then he said after one of them, he was like, alright, man,
it's like two o'clock in the morning, i gotta go
get something to eat. And I'm like, this motherfucker is crazy,
Like you don't care. He just had to think about
it like this, imagine it image if they lost, what
would have been said? Yeah, Like does he get on
the mic like if they're if they're down three to
or say, there they lose game seven. If there was
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a game seven, did you get on the mic for
the game and talk about it? Like I think he
would have. And that's the thing I know. I know
dreaming very well, and I think he would have done
it too, Like I don't think he really cares. And
that's the funniest thing about him. He doesn't give a
funk about nothing. Yeah, he don't care about nobody's opinion,
didn't care about what you think about him, doesn't care
about what your opinion is. He's gonna stay his opinion.
He's gonna say what he has to say. What do
you like it or not? Yeah, I really loved him
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getting up there on the podium, like the postgame press
conference podium, in front of all the media, and he
just hosted the podcast right there, like after the dub.
They had like a thirty minute conversation him, andre Iguadala
and Clay and I was like, that's the best place
you could have done it. Get it out of the
way that yeah, I mean like and then his producer
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will take care of it and post it. But I
just think it's an interesting subject because you see on
First Take every day now like Stephen A. J. J. Reddick,
Kendrick Perkins, all these guys are discussing like what do
they think of the new media, and they all have
interesting perspectives on it. At the end of the day,
everybody pretty much supports it because it's like, you know,
it's a player talking about the game. It's a player
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giving his insight, like you said, there's a million people
in the basketball world that once you guys finish your game,
they're always itching for more. They're like, I wanna know
what's going on after the game, Like what's the what's
the juice that they could give us. In Draymond, he
doesn't really hold back. He kind of just like whatever
says what it is and it Yeah, it makes for
a great content. Um So, you know, well, first of all,
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I mean I don't I could talk to you about
hoops all day, but I'm not gonna keep you. Um So,
I just want to appreciate you coming on share short sharing,
Appreciate you for bizarre walk on journey that was definitely
nothing like my five year walk on journey. So um,
I appreciate that, appreciate your answering some NBA questions, and
you know, I wish you the best of luck. Man.
I hope that you know this contract stuff works out
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for you. So thank you. So I just wanted to
give you this rundown because, like you know, I started
this podcast and like you try to get guests and
all the time, like and obviously like I was my
my producer, like got me in touch with Mike and
then I you know, I was able to get it done.
But I like the whole time, I'm like telling my brother,
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I'm like, no, I won't believe it until I see it,
Like because I had any big, big name person, I
Am not going to believe it's going to come on
the podcast until I see them screen. Yeah. So like
the whole time, I'm like trying not to jinx it.
And I'm not even trying to sound like a fanboy.
It's just like you helped the show immensely, you know
what I mean, Like I greatly appreciate this. Yeah, I
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appreciate Like I you know, I started this back in
September with like the n I L stuff, signed a
deal with iHeart Radio, and we're still kind of trying
to get off the ground, you know. So it's like
it was really important to have, like for me to
have have you come on the show. So I'm very
appreciative of it, even if we didn't have enough, even
if we didn't have enough walk on stuff to talk about,
but yeah, I'd love to send you. Like I'm working
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on getting some merchandise down, um, some some small stuff
like um, it's like a mimic of like the NBA
Eatum video game. Like that logo that uh font wise
just a mimic of that because it was always one
of my favorite games. Um, I'm sure you're like a
fucking quadruple X. I don't know, Like what are you wear?
So just XL. Yeah, I got a little, I got
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a little torso. Man, you're six eleven, you're not You're
not an XL. I'm an excel. I'm a large XCEL.
All right, man, I'll let you get going. I appreciate
you taking a time. Man. Hopefully see you down the
line when I hopefully get my foot in that NBA door.
But I appreciate you, man, love love man, Thank you
all right, man, see you all right, Walkie Tuckies. And
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that's a wrap for episode twelve. Really just so cool
to get Andre on the show. Really fun getting the
chance to talk hoops would a hooper, you know, just
sitting here with him kicking it and getting his perspective
and his take on some of these things was really
fun and special for me as I um embark on
this interviewing journey with Walkie Talkies Podcast. I really do
look forward to whichever other big name former walk On
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wants to come on the show. Oh and vibe out man.
Maybe like a Baker Mayfield, a J. J. Watt. I
don't know about Antonio Brown with all that stuff. Maybe
an old head like a Scottie Pippen at John starks Man.
What can we do to get these guys on this show.
I know they all got some cool walk on stories.
Jeff HORNI sec you know there's some Jim Beheim. There's
a there's a ton of a man. So we can
check Andrea off the list. We've got to get the
rest of the mom. But slow and steady wins a race,
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and this was a special one today, so I hope
everyone enjoyed. And again, if anyone wants some new merchandise
for Walkie Talkies Podcast, check it out on shop Crashing
Hoops dot com. Again, the link is in the episode
description below. And please my last two requests, as always,
is to make sure you leave us that review if
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Both of those things and even if you want to
get some merchandise, man, all of those are greatly appreciated
and more so just greatly appreciate. You know whoever is
tuning in weekly and listen to today's episode, So thank
you all again for listening. This episode truly was special
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and uh groundbreaking for Walkie Talkies podcast. So um, I'll
see you all next week and remember comes up Cute.
Walkie Talkies is a production of I Heart Radio and
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