August 15, 2025 • 38 mins
Baby Cham On Collabs, Mom Not Knowing His Success, “Ghetto Story” Legacy, Dancehall Classics + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Sham, my baby Sham, now your baby Okay, this is
my baby Sham. Yes, but I see it on the video.
I see it on the album's Baby Sham back because.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I think with the project get a story there you
Shamp because they wanted to go with Jo Shamp and
they were having some issues with Baby Sham at the time.
There was an alcohol company by the name of Baby Champagne.
But we kind of want it, kind of want everything
in court. But so baby Sham is mine.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I didn't know if you dropped that, because you know
how people be like little something. I'm not anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm not from there one. I've always been Sham for
the boys, baby Sham for the ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But there's definitely some baby Sham for the ladies on
this new album. Yes, you know, so congratulations. I want
to say I was playing there for everybody up here too,
and they were like it sounds fire, thank you very much.
I can tell. And even from the lead single you know,
and you definitely are a hustler all this time.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Always always been just working NonStop, always been touring. Hustling
in my blood is personal to me because those are
my brothers, you know what I mean. We've been on
tour for the last two weeks and it's been fun
just being on tour myself and Demion Marely. I've been
on tour before, but me Demon my kid on the
same tour. It's been it's been nothing but a vibe,
(01:22):
not but just fun for proforming every night like ten
fifteen thousand people. And surprisingly they're singing the single already,
Hustling in my Blood.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They're singing it. It's hardcore, yes, And the album is
called Charlotte or the Project. It's not epy because it's
longer than that, so it's really a full album.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So Charlotte Crescent, that's the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's where I grew up, where you grew up. Yeah,
that's where it all started from day one.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's been the community that molded me. And I think
that this project I wanted to go back into like
that archive and like find all those things that I
haven't said before. You know what I mean, Because before
you've been talking about stuff that probably you grew up with,
stuff that your experience, but you have certain pockets, are
(02:12):
certain vats that you never went back into as a
musician and as someone that's creative and for this project,
I think I needed to go back to the grassroots.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know, it's been over twenty five years though, because
I know it's twenty five years since your first album
came out, but you were doing music before that. What
do you feel like you haven't talked about? Because that's
interesting to me to hear that.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Oh, there's so many things that I haven't talked about.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Like I think that I've spoken about just the struggles
and growing up in Jamaica's struggles. You could eat a
short armor albums, but I haven't spoken about after you
get what you need to get to take yourself out
of the struggles, how do you maintain that? Okay, I
think that's something for our audience to hear, you know.
(02:58):
I mean, there's something to learn from that. I haven't
pinpointed yet, but I know that that's something that is
really important to speak on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I like this on Maddest Life because it is true,
like you feel like you everything that you wanted to do,
You've had a good life. I like that because it's
kind of like, if you know, God forbid things are
and today at least I feel like I know I've
lived imagine Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
To me, Mada's Life is one of my favorite songs
because to me, it's probably the real song on the
Under the Project. And to me, they say that sometimes
you get up and you have people that say, I
wish are dis growing up, or I wish I had that,
or I wish.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Things was like this or things was like that.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I never think that way, because it's like a domino effect.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
If you take.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Away the struggle of Angela when you were growing up,
then probably you don't even have your mom right right,
even have your that your siblings, your family, you know
what I mean. You don't have what you grow to
love and embrace about your whole environment.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's like if you went back in time and change something,
something else would be so different. You don't know where
you'll be right now.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You don't know where you would be.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And I know that all that struggle growing up in
Sherlock and Kingston is what made me shrunk, you know
what I mean, and made me kind of push every
single day. I ask my father at like age ten,
so I was the man of the oars from age ten,
so I had to be hustling and grinding from age ten,
I would I would never change that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
My school fee in Jamaica, you have to pay school fee.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
My school fee was the last one to pay every
year because I'm the wash belly in Jamaica.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The wash belly is the last one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And that's and if other kids know that too, that's
they knew.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Because the bursa.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
The bursa is the person that comes around and come
to the classroom and let you know that you needed
at the financial office. So other kids and they used
to laugh, but at the end of the day, it's
just part of what makes you.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It's like it's like when you say when when when
you hear we say, oh selling And I'm a blood
go for it the mud, through the fire and the flood.
Listen to my every word. Whoa, We're the strongest of
the strongest.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
So I never changed nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And if I never lived to say another day, I
would never live this another way because I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Living my life without fear. Party every day. I like
up anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm talking about And that's why it's lawless fullyless. And
that's your label, yes, all right, so loawless. So this
album is also out on your label. Yes, And if
you think about all the things that happened to you
even as a kid, growing up to where you are today,
you know, and the help that you have from producers
and people who believe in you. I'm sure for you
(05:40):
at some point you were like, this is something I
need to pay forward.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You have to pay it forward. You have to have
to pay it forward. And that's what I believe in,
you know what I mean. I've been around probably the
greatest producer in Dancile history, which is Kelly, from day one.
And the only reason why dev is not on this
project is because I was creating. I reached out. I
showed is my brother. It's not just like a producer,
you know what I mean. We live in the same
community all my life, since I started doing music. We
(06:06):
have seen each other every day for the last thirty years,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
But Dave was in the Obamas working on something.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I reached out to him probably January third, and I'm like, YO, want.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You see there you go, that's for us, that's.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
For us, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
January third, and I said, Yo, I have this these
ideas in my head that I need to get out.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
For my new product project. And he was like, Okay,
give me two months, and I'm like two months, al right. Cool.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It was like, what if I come to your mind,
if you're writing, send me a demo. He can just
do any of them and I'll start making the beats.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I started writing and start doing beats and just keep
on going, and they were coming out, fire coming out
or I wanted it. By the time they've got to
Miami to the studio in March, the project was done.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It was done.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Done, done.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So he kind of calmed through it like find it,
combed through it to make sure everything is all right, and.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It was like, you know, and not as much as previous.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He was like, you know what, at least everything would
just have to make sure it's mastered right and it's
good to go.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I love that relationship because first of us were already
hear there's somebody from the beginning of their career still
is on good terms with the person you know that
they came up with, because people will see that he
didn't produce on.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
This, and I think that something is going on, na
because the next week we're in the studio at Bojo.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Were the next week about that fire.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Is that we were working on Budger's album, and we
did a few collaborations with Bojo, and Dave is the
one that produced all those, So there's nothing there. It
was that sometime when your creative juice is flowing, you
can't stop it from nothing, and it was just flowing
and everything is coming right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And a good producer would also be like, even if
they put you, go to the side and be like,
this actually sounds great.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's why I've learned that a good producer is also
a good collaborator. And when you're a good collaborator, you
know when to step back and a.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Hater not a heit you know. You mentioned Boji and
of course I know you've said many a time how
tel Shiloh was such a huge album for you, and
that was that was actually huge for us over here,
too big in the United States, you know, but people
were talking about you and Boojiuo finally collaborating properly. Yeah,
So why do you think that took such a long
time to come about?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's weird because Deve Kelly is the one that phoned
at Bojo from Penthos Records and Models Records, and then
like I met Dev probably two Thousan nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I was in probably seventh grade or eighth grade at
the time, so you wouldn't record me. So it was
like you wouldn't record me when you finished with high school.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And we had the same voice too, where you're a
little bit yes grown voice.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And we made a deal that if I came back
to him ninety five at the time, I was fifteen sixteen,
but I would be actually graduated from high school with
proof of gradiation, it would give me a shot. But
during that three year span, I would still go to
the studio and I'll be in the studio watching bujaband
and Terror Fabulous nd Subtherle and Garnet.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Silk, you name it, terror legend, you legends.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So I'm dear learning, like like a fly on the
wall or just a sponge in the corner, just learning
and watching all they go about, just recording all the techniques.
But for some reason, Man Bucher never ever did nothing
at all together.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Never.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, that's wow, this.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Is crazy crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The first time I did a concert with a full
band outside of Jamaica, it was probably nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I was seventeen years old, going on to.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Eighteen and it was Budge's band that Boucher is the
first person that I watch like did a full rearsal
with his band.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So I learned from that, like okay, when it's my time.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I learned from here to conduct myself with the band,
or to keep it business, or to keep it professional.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But for some reason, we have never ever done nothing together.
So when I saw the text, probably in sometime in Christmas,
I saw a text coming and say, yo, Bojo, I
need you on my next project.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And you can't say no. I'm like, where are you?
Never say?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know that a dog a mel like we don't.
Bojo is one of my main influences, you know. I
mean I used to play a sound system as a
kid growing up, like probably twelve thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I used to see if our launch money.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We used to sell battles in Jamaica, like you can
actually go to the after parties, like when parties are finished.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And collect bottles.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You collect the battles. If you sell those battles, you
can get money. We used to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
People do that here all the time to see never stops.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And we used to use that money and buy records
and all the records we used to buy at the
time as a bugabant record So with at Boujabanton, I
wouldn't have went to Dave Kelly. That's amazing because all
the records I used to buy, there was one comman,
Dinaminator BuJo was the artist.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The producer was Dave Kelly.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So that's why I went to Dave Kelly and we
did an artist see history put.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Us where we are.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I can't even imagine what you must have been watching
as a little kid, you know, and that is the
time of your life that you could be very fearless,
right and wanting to do things that nowadays we kind
of can be like, oh, I don't know if I
should ask, I don't know if I should do this.
But when you're like fifteen years old, it's just go
for it.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know, that age you have no fear. You know
you're telling me no, it's no.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I went to junior reading studio before at that age
and we were in the real outside and no one
opened the gate, and I told him when we have
this is why I'm at And it was number one
on the billboard chat I was like, yeah, I was like,
you know what, once before I was at the studio.
I saw you on TV. You told us that you
have a brand new studio. All new artists are welcoming.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, you showed up and you didn't open the gate.
You like we were in the rain. You know what
school you would have. But it's all love. Jun is like.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You were like the person that a lot of people
also from the United States were tapped to do a
hot like collaboration because it was like a Foxy Brown.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know that wass been lucky that we lucky that
we whenever we did collaborations with any artist from overseas,
whether the Wrap, Hip Hop World or R and B World,
it always did well.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Foxy is like a sister up to the day. I'm
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm the type of person when I have relationships the
last long for.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Some reason, Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't be
hearing no drama about you. You Yeah, you stay out
with us. I've never heard.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No, that's it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So inga marsh and she reached out probably ninety nine
and she came to a concert and ever since then
we have been like brothers and sisters. She we had
the idea of doing a record for her. We did
run them run Them first for a project I think
it was Broken Silence, and then we came we had
the idea of Tablestern.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah that was a yeah, that's a banger right there.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So we brought the idea of Tablestern to her. She
loved it and we did it, and that kind of
opened a different door for me.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Different door.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So you think that's what really set off opening up the.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That set off we had like man and Man, Me
and them, no growns man.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Like was on rotation everywhere, but to get inside the
wholesoul of like hip hop fans. I thought Foxy Browne
did that for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And your first album, Wow, the story that was twenty
five years ago today that that I mean not today
but to this year that that album came out. You're
only twenty one years old at that time, but you
had some heavy hitters on that album already. I got
to ask, like, how did that happen so early for
you on your first album.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think it was just the good music that we
were putting out, Like as a new artist. Probably I
was the hottest thing in Jamaica at the time as
a kid, you know what I mean, Just everything came
coming on. It was fire from the Mass gy Ride
with wind Wander. Yeah, if you a glean, I understand
bug another level with Bone to Killer, like everything was
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was hit. There wasn't one record that came out that
wasn't I hit. And everything Father God like the most
I al might. It just worked it out perfect that
whoever we we run into, whether it's a concert or
in a studio somewhere in America, that were cool to
do a record and everything worked out well, you.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Know, even that, and that was the first ever double
CD for a dance or so many songs you were like,
I don't know to leave off of it. Yo.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We had like like probably twelve fourteen records that were
already hits, and at that time I learned that with
all these singles you need you need like like a
home for them. And that's when I learned that, okay,
you need an album to put them somewhere around. So
we're like, okay, like we already had twelve thirteen records,
(14:41):
we need CD number two and CD number two. That's
why it's called well the story said, it's telling you
the story from the beginning. And then CD number two
it's called Another level.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, it seemed like you were very smart from
a young age. And I know you said that your
mother didn't know you were doing music, no to the
level that you were. And the resting peace to her.
So she recently passed. You know, my condolence is invest
in piece and I know she had to be so
proud to see everything her baby sham accomplice.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes, Mather's life is her sound like? When I look
back at everything now, I know that Mada's life was
written for her.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yes, and you put that listen, perfect song. And so
what I wanted to ask you, if you didn't do music,
what was it that you were planning to do with
your life? If you had to go to school.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
At first, I wanted to be a pilot because to me,
I've never seen or heard of anyone from where were
from being a pilot. But then when I did my research,
they made good money, they had good retirement plans, they
had everything. So I was planning for me and my
mom from day one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So you knew you was gonna make it no matter.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yes, yes, something was gonna happen, you know what I mean.
And then I started playing football, which over here you
call it socker and it was real good at it.
So I was playing for Jamaica Under twelve, Jamaica Under fourteen,
Jamaica and a few so that was coming on good.
And then I got an injury and then the following summer.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Music came wow.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So it's like Father God was like, you know what,
I'm not gonna let you suffer. Straight out of ice School,
I got my first number one single. That was the
Mess the Mass Yes Sight out of Ice.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
School and so that was Dave Kelly Kelly.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
When one that was on the chorus, you didn't get
credit for it on the actual record, but when one
I was singing the chorus.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
How did you learn the business of music?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Because that year, that year nineteen ninety five, you know,
when you get your first EAT record, you have the
mass Plane, you had Girl from your band. You know
how all these records playing. So I thought that with
a big label like Models Records, I'm gonna get a
Christmas present.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Probably a nice sneakers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And Dave Kelly brought me a book car all you
need to know about the music business by some passman,
And that's what I got from a Christmas. Yeah, that's
what I got from a Christmas present. I wasn't feeling it,
but then when I started.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Reading it, wait, hold on, instead of money, you got
a book.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I got a book.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I got a book for no sneak because this picture, kid, kid,
everything is going good.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You're hot in the streets. You're looking for like a sneak.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Because probably a jean suit something, you know what I
mean that they can show.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I got a book. I got a book.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
But I learned so much from that book that even
in list of songs like heading to the Top and
on my first album, it says people speculating all they
thought the lottery. No, it's on the music. But I
did my thing properly. Lyrics contradictory. Sweet was the victory
That same song hands up a property. This is not monopoly.
Those are those.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Books kind of kind of molded and shipped.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, I went about the music separate from the music
business man.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Kelly seems like an amazing mentor No, I just want
to say that was you fortunately hooked up with the
right person.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I'm lucky because I've heard a lot of my
peers complained about oh my gosh, publishing royalties I've never
had none of those situations. I never I never did
a live concert. I know artists lived from their live concert.
I never did a live concert until two years in
my career. Wow, nineteen ninety seven. By that time I.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Had that's crazy, So that's crazy. People would just play
You remember hearing your song on the radio for the
first time, because that first.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Time ninety five, we recorded it and we call those
cassettes high buyers cassetts, so we could play it in
you know. You know at the time I didn't have
a car. We had like cassette players. You know, you
record the radio shows. You can play it back and
feel good about yourself, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Man, I know that was amazing. So how did your
mom find out? Wow?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I had?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I had probably three number one songs before my mom knew. Yeah,
so no one in my household knew that I was
a kid.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's a secret.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And the community kept it for me, you know, I mean,
my mom is a Christian and she wasn't having that,
you know what I mean. She wanted us to go
to school, even she couldn't afford to send me to
the university. At the time, she was seefing up so
she could send me to the university after and I
started going to the studio and it worked out anyway.
We had three number one song. They had this this
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this coming out party for Shan Pa and Shan Paul.
Management reached out to me at the time. The club
the name of the club or the mirage. It was
up town and they asked me if we have the
number one song, if we could come to and proform,
and to.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Me it was Anana. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Shann the young art started the same time to just
coming up, but we had bigger songs. So we went
there to night profumed. As soon as I got off stage,
I saw my brother, I knew I was in troubling.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
My brother came, he was like, you are manby Sean.
I see it in the paper all the time, and
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And that's when my mom found out and she said
she had to have a talk with Dave. He came
over to to the Oh it's probably two days after
she met Dave and realized that Dave Kell's a good person.
Realized that I'm in good company, and I mean, because
you have so many things that they talk about the
industry that when these kids go to the studio and
they give them his weed and jugs and girls and
all of these things. And she realized that now these
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people are about music, they have fun, They're going to
make sure that they take care of your son.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And from there she was just gave me all the support.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Man, if they would have been social media, you would
have never got away with that from whatever you ever.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, I didn't have a No one knew what I
looked like until probably ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And we had eight songs from ninety five and no
one knew what I looked like. No videos, no ninety seven,
my bad. So my first concert was ninety seven. So
you had all these eat records. You weren't doing no
past shoes, no shows. So the industry started saying I
was a studio artist, perform live, and performed live, can't
(21:00):
replicate the song's life and.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Still because you had that deep yes always.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So that picture that concert, you had probably five thousand
fans and probably all the record industry, music industry here
just to see if it's real. But I've been a
profimer from the one like I was begging to profile.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
They did. It was Dave Kelly's plan and models planned.
They wanted it like that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
They wanted you to have at least a nice twenty
five to thirty minute catalog in terms of set before
you do a concert, and it worked out well.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Were you impatient?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I was impatient?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I was impatient, but I wasn't needing probably if
I was needing for anything, because the records were coming
out so so big. I was doing a lot of
dublates in Jamaica. Double its is like when we do
a special with with Angela's naming it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
This Angela story, Angela E story like that.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't think we're not going to use that either.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It's all right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I was super not a noising so.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
All the sound systems you so every single released, I
would do like a lot of up plays. So I
wasn't needing for no money. I was financially okay at
the time.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's crazy how even now, like things just don't work
like that anymore at all. Like people are not doing that.
Artists aren't doing that. They're not putting that type of
ground where I don't think.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I think the one is trusting that type of process
that it were either you.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Do it on AI anyway, Play Baby Shit listen. And
so I want to talk about just how when it
was the I think it was the twentieth anniversary of
while the story, you started doing these like going track
by track and breaking down what it is like the
making of it. That was amazing to hear some of
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those stories.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Because those are like iconic stories like for instance, Gyride.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Oh man, I could picture Gyride.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Gyride is one of my favorite records, and Gyride at
the time, I think Gyride Compilation was probably first compilation
album out of Jamaica that so goal like real goal
like five toes. So gy Ride was done Dave Kelly.
And when when one that came to pick me up
to go to a beach party, famous beach party in Jamaica. Yeah,
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it was called but the beach was the Frenchman cove,
you know what I mean. And when they came to
pick me up, I was in like plaid shirt. Well
span up when we call Spain in Jamaica. We bought
the first button on the shirt and fly Adam white,
Marina mesh, Marina brown jeans, vans, brown and black Bally
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not No Not Beach a tire so bali at the time.
Was was the the shoes that was the hottest roadboy
shoes in Jamaica, either Bally Travel Fox you know what
I mean. Yeah, So they came to pick me up
and they had done slides like sandals and shots and
just regular times.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But to where we are from? When you like that
is is youyard dress? You don't just like that going
oh do you know what I mean? And they were like, no,
this is a beach part. I'm like, Nope, I'm not
going to just like that. This is a wee dressed.
When I went on the beach party, I was stopped out.
Everyone started looking at me like crazy. Had to take
off the plaid shirt, tie the prat shirt around my wist,
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took off the balley, roll up my jeans fans and
just kept it casual and beach like.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You said that was the first song that you did not.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I was written Dave Kelly had the beach Plane.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We were driving all the way from Kingston to Portland,
w when that was freestyling taking.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
A ride a ride a ride and.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm just freestyling cruising a round with a jeep full
on his You're gonna want to win to Juice to mommies.
And if you're really listening into juice a Mia, it's
not a word, it's more introduce me, introduce me. Yeah,
but because you're freestyling, you're trying to fill the gap,
you know what I mean? Into juice a to your mommies.
Someone come over with my luggage boom. The minute day
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of Keller released it, it went straight to number one.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So listen, that's not today still.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's one of my biggest songs in my catalog, even
today when we performed live. That's probably you have a
segment in mindset that we go to nineties music when
gy Ride drops crazy, everything goes crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And I feel that in Ghetto Story, right, I would
say Ghetto Story was which which one you would you
say is bigger?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Get a Story?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah? That's Alica Key And you know I was also
I'm going to ask you this question, but Ghetto Story
Alicia Keys got on that.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, A Kon did his.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I want to ask you even how that happened. But
before I do that, if you were going to do
a Ghetto Story twenty twenty five, who would you like
to hear on that telling their story okay.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Me personally, Yeah, who.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Would you personally be? Like, I would love to hear this.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I would love to hear Eminem's story on a ghetto
story because I knew it's back growing idea of his
background and oh he came up, you know what I mean.
I would love to hear I would love to hear
nas you know what I mean, coming through where he
is now?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And as far as new school, i'd probably put Vibes
Cartel on it, just the year his story coming.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Through, you know, and he came all the way through.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I'd have to
think about more. But those are the people that when
when you think about lyrically, where they're at and where they're.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Coming from and the story they have to tell you
they have to tell The real great thing about get
a story is we get to see it after you
came through it, to see where you are. But here's
where I started, yes, you know, and I feel like
it's so descriptive. That's what people love about it. Even here.
I never heard Alicia Keys do nothing like that, you
know before, Like that was very unique, never for her
as well.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And I think that's why it's so unique, even though
in her life show, like when we go with Alisha
on the road and do it in her life show,
it feels so fresh because.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
In White Rice and Honey, I was like, that sounds good.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean. That's that's a big vibe.
And that's why it's so different. There's nothing in her
set like that ever, and she has never done nothing
like that after right, and that's good Forget a Story.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, that is an Acon too.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
We recorded Acon and Vitamins Beat, so no one knew
Acon at the time, so we had a song on
on Vitamins Beat from like two thousand and three with
Acon that's before lacktop all of that. I think it's
called Gunshot. So that was my brother from before anything
started popping off, you know what I mean for him.
And as soon as Get a Story hit, I reached
(27:45):
out to him. I say, oh, needia an it and
it was like nothing flew in boom knocked it out.
And then probably two weeks after we got Alisha, I'm like, oh,
this is perfect.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I mean, that was you know, something so unexpected. How
did that even happen? Did you all reach out to
her or did she you say, like, how does something
like that?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Behind the scenes, someone reached out to her, and then
she reached out back and said it would be cool
because she has a story to tell. I didn't even
know that she's from Health's Kitchen. I thought that she
was a nice suburbian nice.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know what I mean. Yeah, really didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So when she told her story, I think the world
kind of realized that, Okay, she's coming from somewhere deeper
than we that, you.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, And people wouldn't know your story either, because you know, respectfully,
you're the ladies man.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And even when you were coming up in this, it was.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Like baby, yeah, clean cut.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You do seem like you could have came up in
that same way too.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah. And you have to get back to my mom.
My mom, my mom.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Even though grew up in the gears South Jamaica without
my dad around, my mom kind of guided us.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
And you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
We have to get a five am every morning before school,
and each one of us had to read a Bible
scripture every month. Wow, you know what I mean, Monding,
So that even made me more comfortable. I get it
up in front of class and reading something from a
literature book, you know what I mean. And I got
into literature that way, and that's all the writing came about.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Mm hmm. And then look and then putting out a
song like vitamin s Yeah, things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Good vitamin and the craziest thing about vitamins. We are
Me and Dave Kelly kind of word o a vitamins.
He wanted me to give Being a Man vitamins. So
he wanted me to do Dude because Foxy the world
didn't notice, but Foxy had done a demo for Dude.
So it was Foxy Brown that was I want to
(29:37):
do it with the Wiki days. She was singing the
hook and we were going to use this as tables
turned follow up and I did the verses as a
demo and then I found vitamins. Being a Man came
to record now and Dave was like, Yo, we should
give Be.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The Man vitamins and I'm like no. When I found vitamins,
I knew it was special.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I don't care what Dude Soul Do is going to do.
I'm like, you know what, give me the dude. We're
gonna give him dude, and I'm going to do vitamins.
I'm not giving away this one, you know what I mean.
And Inga was vexed with me for like Inga was
not talking to me for like three four months after
that because the dude came.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That was a huge Yes, she heard it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I knew that it wasn't her vocal and it anymore.
And Inga was upset for like four months.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But you don't want to either, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
What I mean. And it worked out well. I needed vitamins.
Do this, dude, you will never ever forget vitamins.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Just if you use vitamins now, you can use it
in a conversation around kids and they wouldn't even understand what.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You're talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I went to the doctor, I.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Need some m Yes, shims are sensions stress.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Somebody give r some Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
X And then listen. The other thing that you did,
and this was more recently, you did a collaboration project
with Bounty Killer. Yes, that was amazing too. I want
to say, even just watching you like, I felt like
that was energizing for you as well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It was one of the most beautiful thing to me.
Killa is like a brother.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Sound good together always.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
The first time we did was another level, so we
knew the chemistry was there and we always perform in
concert together. The chemistry is naturally there. Out of the pandemic,
myself and Dave Kelly decided that instead of just jumping
a single single project, let's do something with Rodney and
when any Rodney Price aka Bounty Killer, and we we
flew him to the Bambas at the time because he
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didn't have visa to come into the States and we
had a We had a place right under water front
of the Bambas. We were there for one month. It's
the first time Killer ever leave Jommika for one month.
One month we're there cooking every day. There's vibe in
making music and that's all we worked on the project.
When his first visa came to was the England visa.
(32:01):
We all were praying that it would come to so
we could go to England to do the promo. It
came to on time, just as the album, just as
the EP drop time Bomb.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
We went to England.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Everyone was so happy to see Killer, who went back
to England ten months after solowed the Wembley Arena almost
eighteen to people and ever since then all the kids
have been flying for killer.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So it's a good look.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, No, it is not a game right now, I
think for a dance on and reggae. Just seeing how
it's been proving how these shows can sell out. You know,
these brands need to get behind these artists the way
that they have been, and you've been consistent. I feel
like throughout just you know, with this music and now
with this project that you have, and you gave us
all what we needed. You know, even on a sound
(32:47):
like mister Ductress, you know I still be liking yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, because Yeah, to me, I wanted this project to
have something for all the fame, all of fame, more
lovely of showing the society, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Mister Doctors is more club vibe, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So I think this project have something for everyone. And
that's all I wanted it and it worked out perfect
for me. And even when we decided to release it,
we decided, okay, we're gonna come July. Demon Mally and
Steve Maley was going on tour Traffic Jamp tour. Normally,
before they go on tour, they will release a single
that they would use as the pivot song for the tour.
(33:25):
When we did hustling in my Blood. They called me
up and say, you know what, We're not even gonna
drop no single. This is our single for the tour.
So whatever you doing, you have to be on tour
with us, and to be on Torol with them promoting
the same night every night, every single night, we had
us promoting that song, performing it all chree of us together.
I've done a big record with my self Bounty Kill
(33:47):
and Dexads Slow Motion two years ago that we have
never performed that sung five times together, because you know
it goes artists. Everyone have their own thing to fulfilled.
They have their own applic shuns everything, you know what
I mean. And to be on the road myself and
Demon and Steve every night seven toes and nine toes
(34:07):
and ten toes and fifteen toes of people, I think
it's worth perfect for my project this time around.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And listen, you can ask for a better rollout.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I couldn't. I couldn't. Like It's one of them things
that you have to just neil and say thank you Lord.
You know what I mean, because you know that it's
a higher divine purpose than what you are really really about.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's not just about you it's someone else's guiding this.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, the blessings are continuing to come in. And one
thing I would say is even in the midst of
like I feel like in you know, Dancer, there was
always all these different like divisions and this person, but
it felt like you managed to avoid all of those
problems and be cool with everybody.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's the main thing. The main thing is like I think,
I'm like, I'm like a bridge. That's why I look
at myself, and I started looking at that since I
started reading and reading more about like being a collaborator.
You have some people that can't collaborate. I have some
people that are real collaborators. And recently aerd Farrell said
on an interview, he said that a collaborator knows when
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to step back, you know what I mean. So even
when I'm on the road, I was doing concerts with Killer,
I allow Killer to take you, take the front the
front road, do what you do, and I don't feel
any less either, because I know what I bring to the.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Table, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, And then when it's my time to do my
own concerts, it's a different beast, just the same. But
you have to us learn how to share the spotlight
and yeah, I mean yes vers Yeah, man, that's it
for me. Yeah, that's it for me.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You know, it's interesting seeing these conversations around vibes cartel
and how much is getting paid too, and that all
happened because of the drama with the promoter and all
of that, and so it also made other people feel like,
well I should be getting you know, and I saw
that like all over social media, what have.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You been doing?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Has been locked up for thirteen years, so you can't
compare them, you know what I mean? And who say
they're trying to say they should be getting the same amoune,
then you work and get the same amounde.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's been locked up for thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
No one signed proforming, not even not clip, not even
a photo. You barely sign the photo of him in prison.
So now when he comes out, you have an all
catalog that people has never ever seen him profound, So
you deserve every penny that he's getting.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, And I think the positive thing is to see
everybody's quashing beef to help the whole culture.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
The whole genre. When he wins, when I win, when
Sean Paul win, when Bounty Killer win, when being the win,
when Spice Wind, when chancey Are win, when Jaeda win,
all of us win. You know what I mean, all
of us win, all genre wins. That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, I feel like that is a perfect way for
us to say thank you so much, baby Sham. And
you know the Sherlock Project is out right now, so
make sure you're I guess the people buy strng it.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Stream it and buy it at the same time.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And also you do have some dates coming up, so
I want to make sure we all know that because
you are going to be in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Brooklyn, I hope you can make the show Corney Island
with the legend Barry Salmon and the legend Mastery Griffiths.
For me, that's an anna. So it's New Jersey, it's
a n J park, which it was the Performance Art
Center in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And nowhere and in New York and the Corney Island
in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And then you're also going to Toronto. You're going to
Riviera Bees, Florida, and then welcome to deer Mark Cruise.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yep, yep, please.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's gonna be a wild time fire fire.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
The Toronto concert is special.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's Bounty Killer's first time performing in Tronto in like
probably twenty years. First time and it's the first time
anywhere in North America is seeing myself Bounty Killer and
Decks Adapts performing slow motion together.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
That is for Sarah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
We need to be in Toronto, butppatiently there's angela day.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
So we'll send you a video.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Please. Let's I'm gonna be I'm gonna be looking online
and whatever it is I reposted, but again, thank you
so much. I appreciate it. Before we even started, I
showed you this the throwback picture of us.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
We should, we should. I let them see that Welcome
from d one is not just.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
No super clean, super clean, right ladies, man, babes.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Angelie and it's Babysham that's me. Can you hear me? Good?
Sham, my baby Sham, now your baby Okay, this is
my baby Sham. Yes, but I see it on the video.
I see it on the album's Baby Sham back because.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I think with the project get a story there you
Shamp because they wanted to go with Jo Shamp and
they were having some issues with Baby Sham at the time.
There was an alcohol company by the name of Baby Champagne.
But we kind of want it, kind of want everything
in court. But so baby Sham is mine.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I didn't know if you dropped that, because you know
how people be like little something. I'm not anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm not from there one. I've always been Sham for
the boys, baby Sham for the ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But there's definitely some baby Sham for the ladies on
this new album. Yes, you know, so congratulations. I want
to say I was playing there for everybody up here too,
and they were like it sounds fire, thank you very much.
I can tell. And even from the lead single you know,
and you definitely are a hustler all this time.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Always always been just working NonStop, always been touring. Hustling
in my blood is personal to me because those are
my brothers, you know what I mean. We've been on
tour for the last two weeks and it's been fun
just being on tour myself and Demion Marely. I've been
on tour before, but me Demon my kid on the
same tour. It's been it's been nothing but a vibe,
(01:22):
not but just fun for proforming every night like ten
fifteen thousand people. And surprisingly they're singing the single already,
Hustling in my Blood.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
They're singing it. It's hardcore, yes, And the album is
called Charlotte or the Project. It's not epy because it's
longer than that, so it's really a full album.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So Charlotte Crescent, that's the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's where I grew up, where you grew up. Yeah,
that's where it all started from day one.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's been the community that molded me. And I think
that this project I wanted to go back into like
that archive and like find all those things that I
haven't said before. You know what I mean, Because before
you've been talking about stuff that probably you grew up with,
stuff that your experience, but you have certain pockets, are
(02:12):
certain vats that you never went back into as a
musician and as someone that's creative and for this project,
I think I needed to go back to the grassroots.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know, it's been over twenty five years though, because
I know it's twenty five years since your first album
came out, but you were doing music before that. What
do you feel like you haven't talked about? Because that's
interesting to me to hear that.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Oh, there's so many things that I haven't talked about.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Like I think that I've spoken about just the struggles
and growing up in Jamaica's struggles. You could eat a
short armor albums, but I haven't spoken about after you
get what you need to get to take yourself out
of the struggles, how do you maintain that? Okay, I
think that's something for our audience to hear, you know.
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I mean, there's something to learn from that. I haven't
pinpointed yet, but I know that that's something that is
really important to speak on, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I like this on Maddest Life because it is true,
like you feel like you everything that you wanted to do,
You've had a good life. I like that because it's
kind of like, if you know, God forbid things are
and today at least I feel like I know I've
lived imagine Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
To me, Mada's Life is one of my favorite songs
because to me, it's probably the real song on the
Under the Project. And to me, they say that sometimes
you get up and you have people that say, I
wish are dis growing up, or I wish I had that,
or I wish.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Things was like this or things was like that.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I never think that way, because it's like a domino effect.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
If you take.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Away the struggle of Angela when you were growing up,
then probably you don't even have your mom right right,
even have your that your siblings, your family, you know
what I mean. You don't have what you grow to
love and embrace about your whole environment.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
It's like if you went back in time and change something,
something else would be so different. You don't know where
you'll be right now.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You don't know where you would be.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And I know that all that struggle growing up in
Sherlock and Kingston is what made me shrunk, you know
what I mean, and made me kind of push every
single day. I ask my father at like age ten,
so I was the man of the oars from age ten,
so I had to be hustling and grinding from age ten,
I would I would never change that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
My school fee in Jamaica, you have to pay school fee.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
My school fee was the last one to pay every
year because I'm the wash belly in Jamaica.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
The wash belly is the last one.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
And that's and if other kids know that too, that's
they knew.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Because the bursa.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
The bursa is the person that comes around and come
to the classroom and let you know that you needed
at the financial office. So other kids and they used
to laugh, but at the end of the day, it's
just part of what makes you.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It's like it's like when you say when when when
you hear we say, oh selling And I'm a blood
go for it the mud, through the fire and the flood.
Listen to my every word. Whoa, We're the strongest of
the strongest.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
So I never changed nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
And if I never lived to say another day, I
would never live this another way because I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Living my life without fear. Party every day. I like
up anywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm talking about And that's why it's lawless fullyless. And
that's your label, yes, all right, so loawless. So this
album is also out on your label. Yes, And if
you think about all the things that happened to you
even as a kid, growing up to where you are today,
you know, and the help that you have from producers
and people who believe in you. I'm sure for you
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at some point you were like, this is something I
need to pay forward.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You have to pay it forward. You have to have
to pay it forward. And that's what I believe in,
you know what I mean. I've been around probably the
greatest producer in Dancile history, which is Kelly, from day one.
And the only reason why dev is not on this
project is because I was creating. I reached out. I
showed is my brother. It's not just like a producer,
you know what I mean. We live in the same
community all my life, since I started doing music. We
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have seen each other every day for the last thirty years,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
But Dave was in the Obamas working on something.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I reached out to him probably January third, and I'm like, YO, want.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You see there you go, that's for us, that's.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
For us, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
January third, and I said, Yo, I have this these
ideas in my head that I need to get out.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
For my new product project. And he was like, Okay,
give me two months, and I'm like two months, al right. Cool.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It was like, what if I come to your mind,
if you're writing, send me a demo. He can just
do any of them and I'll start making the beats.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I started writing and start doing beats and just keep
on going, and they were coming out, fire coming out
or I wanted it. By the time they've got to
Miami to the studio in March, the project was done.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It was done.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Done, done.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So he kind of calmed through it like find it,
combed through it to make sure everything is all right, and.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It was like, you know, and not as much as previous.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
He was like, you know what, at least everything would
just have to make sure it's mastered right and it's
good to go.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I love that relationship because first of us were already
hear there's somebody from the beginning of their career still
is on good terms with the person you know that
they came up with, because people will see that he
didn't produce on.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
This, and I think that something is going on, na
because the next week we're in the studio at Bojo.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Were the next week about that fire.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Is that we were working on Budger's album, and we
did a few collaborations with Bojo, and Dave is the
one that produced all those, So there's nothing there. It
was that sometime when your creative juice is flowing, you
can't stop it from nothing, and it was just flowing
and everything is coming right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
And a good producer would also be like, even if
they put you, go to the side and be like,
this actually sounds great.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's why I've learned that a good producer is also
a good collaborator. And when you're a good collaborator, you
know when to step back and a.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Hater not a heit you know. You mentioned Boji and
of course I know you've said many a time how
tel Shiloh was such a huge album for you, and
that was that was actually huge for us over here,
too big in the United States, you know, but people
were talking about you and Boojiuo finally collaborating properly. Yeah,
So why do you think that took such a long
time to come about?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It was.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
It's weird because Deve Kelly is the one that phoned
at Bojo from Penthos Records and Models Records, and then
like I met Dev probably two Thousan nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I was in probably seventh grade or eighth grade at
the time, so you wouldn't record me. So it was
like you wouldn't record me when you finished with high school.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And we had the same voice too, where you're a
little bit yes grown voice.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And we made a deal that if I came back
to him ninety five at the time, I was fifteen sixteen,
but I would be actually graduated from high school with
proof of gradiation, it would give me a shot. But
during that three year span, I would still go to
the studio and I'll be in the studio watching bujaband
and Terror Fabulous nd Subtherle and Garnet.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Silk, you name it, terror legend, you legends.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So I'm dear learning, like like a fly on the
wall or just a sponge in the corner, just learning
and watching all they go about, just recording all the techniques.
But for some reason, Man Bucher never ever did nothing
at all together.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Never.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, that's wow, this.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Is crazy crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
The first time I did a concert with a full
band outside of Jamaica, it was probably nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
I was seventeen years old, going on to.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Eighteen and it was Budge's band that Boucher is the
first person that I watch like did a full rearsal
with his band.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
So I learned from that, like okay, when it's my time.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I learned from here to conduct myself with the band,
or to keep it business, or to keep it professional.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
All of that.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But for some reason, we have never ever done nothing together.
So when I saw the text, probably in sometime in Christmas,
I saw a text coming and say, yo, Bojo, I
need you on my next project.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
And you can't say no. I'm like, where are you?
Never say?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You know that a dog a mel like we don't.
Bojo is one of my main influences, you know. I
mean I used to play a sound system as a
kid growing up, like probably twelve thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I used to see if our launch money.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We used to sell battles in Jamaica, like you can
actually go to the after parties, like when parties are finished.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And collect bottles.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You collect the battles. If you sell those battles, you
can get money. We used to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
People do that here all the time to see never stops.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
And we used to use that money and buy records
and all the records we used to buy at the
time as a bugabant record So with at Boujabanton, I
wouldn't have went to Dave Kelly. That's amazing because all
the records I used to buy, there was one comman,
Dinaminator BuJo was the artist.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The producer was Dave Kelly.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So that's why I went to Dave Kelly and we
did an artist see history put.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Us where we are.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I can't even imagine what you must have been watching
as a little kid, you know, and that is the
time of your life that you could be very fearless,
right and wanting to do things that nowadays we kind
of can be like, oh, I don't know if I
should ask, I don't know if I should do this.
But when you're like fifteen years old, it's just go
for it.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know, that age you have no fear. You know
you're telling me no, it's no.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I went to junior reading studio before at that age
and we were in the real outside and no one
opened the gate, and I told him when we have
this is why I'm at And it was number one
on the billboard chat I was like, yeah, I was like,
you know what, once before I was at the studio.
I saw you on TV. You told us that you
have a brand new studio. All new artists are welcoming.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, you showed up and you didn't open the gate.
You like we were in the rain. You know what
school you would have. But it's all love. Jun is like.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You were like the person that a lot of people
also from the United States were tapped to do a
hot like collaboration because it was like a Foxy Brown.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know that wass been lucky that we lucky that
we whenever we did collaborations with any artist from overseas,
whether the Wrap, Hip Hop World or R and B World,
it always did well.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Foxy is like a sister up to the day. I'm
like that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm the type of person when I have relationships the
last long for.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Some reason, Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't be
hearing no drama about you. You Yeah, you stay out
with us. I've never heard.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
No, that's it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So inga marsh and she reached out probably ninety nine
and she came to a concert and ever since then
we have been like brothers and sisters. She we had
the idea of doing a record for her. We did
run them run Them first for a project I think
it was Broken Silence, and then we came we had
the idea of Tablestern.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah that was a yeah, that's a banger right there.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So we brought the idea of Tablestern to her. She
loved it and we did it, and that kind of
opened a different door for me.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Different door.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So you think that's what really set off opening up the.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That set off we had like man and Man, Me
and them, no growns man.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Like was on rotation everywhere, but to get inside the
wholesoul of like hip hop fans. I thought Foxy Browne
did that for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And your first album, Wow, the story that was twenty
five years ago today that that I mean not today
but to this year that that album came out. You're
only twenty one years old at that time, but you
had some heavy hitters on that album already. I got
to ask, like, how did that happen so early for
you on your first album.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I think it was just the good music that we
were putting out, Like as a new artist. Probably I
was the hottest thing in Jamaica at the time as
a kid, you know what I mean, Just everything came
coming on. It was fire from the Mass gy Ride
with wind Wander. Yeah, if you a glean, I understand
bug another level with Bone to Killer, like everything was
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was hit. There wasn't one record that came out that
wasn't I hit. And everything Father God like the most
I al might. It just worked it out perfect that
whoever we we run into, whether it's a concert or
in a studio somewhere in America, that were cool to
do a record and everything worked out well, you.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Know, even that, and that was the first ever double
CD for a dance or so many songs you were like,
I don't know to leave off of it. Yo.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
We had like like probably twelve fourteen records that were
already hits, and at that time I learned that with
all these singles you need you need like like a
home for them. And that's when I learned that, okay,
you need an album to put them somewhere around. So
we're like, okay, like we already had twelve thirteen records,
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we need CD number two and CD number two. That's
why it's called well the story said, it's telling you
the story from the beginning. And then CD number two
it's called Another level.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, it seemed like you were very smart from
a young age. And I know you said that your
mother didn't know you were doing music, no to the
level that you were. And the resting peace to her.
So she recently passed. You know, my condolence is invest
in piece and I know she had to be so
proud to see everything her baby sham accomplice.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes, Mather's life is her sound like? When I look
back at everything now, I know that Mada's life was
written for her.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yes, and you put that listen, perfect song. And so
what I wanted to ask you, if you didn't do music,
what was it that you were planning to do with
your life? If you had to go to school.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
At first, I wanted to be a pilot because to me,
I've never seen or heard of anyone from where were
from being a pilot. But then when I did my research,
they made good money, they had good retirement plans, they
had everything. So I was planning for me and my
mom from day one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So you knew you was gonna make it no matter.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Yes, yes, something was gonna happen, you know what I mean.
And then I started playing football, which over here you
call it socker and it was real good at it.
So I was playing for Jamaica Under twelve, Jamaica Under fourteen,
Jamaica and a few so that was coming on good.
And then I got an injury and then the following summer.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Music came wow.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So it's like Father God was like, you know what,
I'm not gonna let you suffer. Straight out of ice School,
I got my first number one single. That was the
Mess the Mass Yes Sight out of Ice.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
School and so that was Dave Kelly Kelly.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
When one that was on the chorus, you didn't get
credit for it on the actual record, but when one
I was singing the chorus.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
How did you learn the business of music?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Because that year, that year nineteen ninety five, you know,
when you get your first EAT record, you have the
mass Plane, you had Girl from your band. You know
how all these records playing. So I thought that with
a big label like Models Records, I'm gonna get a
Christmas present.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Probably a nice sneakers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And Dave Kelly brought me a book car all you
need to know about the music business by some passman,
And that's what I got from a Christmas. Yeah, that's
what I got from a Christmas present. I wasn't feeling it,
but then when I started.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Reading it, wait, hold on, instead of money, you got
a book.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I got a book.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I got a book for no sneak because this picture, kid, kid,
everything is going good.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You're hot in the streets. You're looking for like a sneak.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Because probably a jean suit something, you know what I
mean that they can show.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I got a book. I got a book.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
But I learned so much from that book that even
in list of songs like heading to the Top and
on my first album, it says people speculating all they
thought the lottery. No, it's on the music. But I
did my thing properly. Lyrics contradictory. Sweet was the victory
That same song hands up a property. This is not monopoly.
Those are those.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Books kind of kind of molded and shipped.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Oh, I went about the music separate from the music
business man.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Kelly seems like an amazing mentor No, I just want
to say that was you fortunately hooked up with the
right person.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I'm lucky because I've heard a lot of my
peers complained about oh my gosh, publishing royalties I've never
had none of those situations. I never I never did
a live concert. I know artists lived from their live concert.
I never did a live concert until two years in
my career. Wow, nineteen ninety seven. By that time I.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Had that's crazy, So that's crazy. People would just play
You remember hearing your song on the radio for the
first time, because that first.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Time ninety five, we recorded it and we call those
cassettes high buyers cassetts, so we could play it in
you know. You know at the time I didn't have
a car. We had like cassette players. You know, you
record the radio shows. You can play it back and
feel good about yourself, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Man, I know that was amazing. So how did your
mom find out? Wow?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I had?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I had probably three number one songs before my mom knew. Yeah,
so no one in my household knew that I was
a kid.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
That's a secret.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
And the community kept it for me, you know, I mean,
my mom is a Christian and she wasn't having that,
you know what I mean. She wanted us to go
to school, even she couldn't afford to send me to
the university. At the time, she was seefing up so
she could send me to the university after and I
started going to the studio and it worked out anyway.
We had three number one song. They had this this
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this coming out party for Shan Pa and Shan Paul.
Management reached out to me at the time. The club
the name of the club or the mirage. It was
up town and they asked me if we have the
number one song, if we could come to and proform,
and to.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Me it was Anana. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Shann the young art started the same time to just
coming up, but we had bigger songs. So we went
there to night profumed. As soon as I got off stage,
I saw my brother, I knew I was in troubling.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
My brother came, he was like, you are manby Sean.
I see it in the paper all the time, and
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And that's when my mom found out and she said
she had to have a talk with Dave. He came
over to to the Oh it's probably two days after
she met Dave and realized that Dave Kell's a good person.
Realized that I'm in good company, and I mean, because
you have so many things that they talk about the
industry that when these kids go to the studio and
they give them his weed and jugs and girls and
all of these things. And she realized that now these
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people are about music, they have fun, They're going to
make sure that they take care of your son.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
And from there she was just gave me all the support.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Man, if they would have been social media, you would
have never got away with that from whatever you ever.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, I didn't have a No one knew what I
looked like until probably ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And we had eight songs from ninety five and no
one knew what I looked like. No videos, no ninety seven,
my bad. So my first concert was ninety seven. So
you had all these eat records. You weren't doing no
past shoes, no shows. So the industry started saying I
was a studio artist, perform live, and performed live, can't
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replicate the song's life and.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Still because you had that deep yes always.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So that picture that concert, you had probably five thousand
fans and probably all the record industry, music industry here
just to see if it's real. But I've been a
profimer from the one like I was begging to profile.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
They did. It was Dave Kelly's plan and models planned.
They wanted it like that.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
They wanted you to have at least a nice twenty
five to thirty minute catalog in terms of set before
you do a concert, and it worked out well.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Were you impatient?
Speaker 3 (21:33):
I was impatient?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I was impatient, but I wasn't needing probably if
I was needing for anything, because the records were coming
out so so big. I was doing a lot of
dublates in Jamaica. Double its is like when we do
a special with with Angela's naming it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
This Angela story, Angela E story like that.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't think we're not going to use that either.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It's all right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I was super not a noising so.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
All the sound systems you so every single released, I
would do like a lot of up plays. So I
wasn't needing for no money. I was financially okay at
the time.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's crazy how even now, like things just don't work
like that anymore at all. Like people are not doing that.
Artists aren't doing that. They're not putting that type of
ground where I don't think.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I think the one is trusting that type of process
that it were either you.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Do it on AI anyway, Play Baby Shit listen. And
so I want to talk about just how when it
was the I think it was the twentieth anniversary of
while the story, you started doing these like going track
by track and breaking down what it is like the
making of it. That was amazing to hear some of
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those stories.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Because those are like iconic stories like for instance, Gyride.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Oh man, I could picture Gyride.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Gyride is one of my favorite records, and Gyride at
the time, I think Gyride Compilation was probably first compilation
album out of Jamaica that so goal like real goal
like five toes. So gy Ride was done Dave Kelly.
And when when one that came to pick me up
to go to a beach party, famous beach party in Jamaica. Yeah,
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it was called but the beach was the Frenchman cove,
you know what I mean. And when they came to
pick me up, I was in like plaid shirt. Well
span up when we call Spain in Jamaica. We bought
the first button on the shirt and fly Adam white,
Marina mesh, Marina brown jeans, vans, brown and black Bally
(23:38):
not No Not Beach a tire so bali at the time.
Was was the the shoes that was the hottest roadboy
shoes in Jamaica, either Bally Travel Fox you know what
I mean. Yeah, So they came to pick me up
and they had done slides like sandals and shots and
just regular times.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But to where we are from? When you like that
is is youyard dress? You don't just like that going
oh do you know what I mean? And they were like, no,
this is a beach part. I'm like, Nope, I'm not
going to just like that. This is a wee dressed.
When I went on the beach party, I was stopped out.
Everyone started looking at me like crazy. Had to take
off the plaid shirt, tie the prat shirt around my wist,
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took off the balley, roll up my jeans fans and
just kept it casual and beach like.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You said that was the first song that you did not.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I was written Dave Kelly had the beach Plane.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
We were driving all the way from Kingston to Portland,
w when that was freestyling taking.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
A ride a ride a ride and.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I'm just freestyling cruising a round with a jeep full
on his You're gonna want to win to Juice to mommies.
And if you're really listening into juice a Mia, it's
not a word, it's more introduce me, introduce me. Yeah,
but because you're freestyling, you're trying to fill the gap,
you know what I mean? Into juice a to your mommies.
Someone come over with my luggage boom. The minute day
(25:01):
of Keller released it, it went straight to number one.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So listen, that's not today still.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's one of my biggest songs in my catalog, even
today when we performed live. That's probably you have a
segment in mindset that we go to nineties music when
gy Ride drops crazy, everything goes crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And I feel that in Ghetto Story, right, I would
say Ghetto Story was which which one you would you
say is bigger?
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Get a Story?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah? That's Alica Key And you know I was also
I'm going to ask you this question, but Ghetto Story
Alicia Keys got on that.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, A Kon did his.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I want to ask you even how that happened. But
before I do that, if you were going to do
a Ghetto Story twenty twenty five, who would you like
to hear on that telling their story okay.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Me personally, Yeah, who.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Would you personally be? Like, I would love to hear this.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I would love to hear Eminem's story on a ghetto
story because I knew it's back growing idea of his
background and oh he came up, you know what I mean.
I would love to hear I would love to hear
nas you know what I mean, coming through where he
is now?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
And as far as new school, i'd probably put Vibes
Cartel on it, just the year his story coming.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Through, you know, and he came all the way through.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean. Like I'd have to
think about more. But those are the people that when
when you think about lyrically, where they're at and where they're.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Coming from and the story they have to tell you
they have to tell The real great thing about get
a story is we get to see it after you
came through it, to see where you are. But here's
where I started, yes, you know, and I feel like
it's so descriptive. That's what people love about it. Even here.
I never heard Alicia Keys do nothing like that, you
know before, Like that was very unique, never for her
as well.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And I think that's why it's so unique, even though
in her life show, like when we go with Alisha
on the road and do it in her life show,
it feels so fresh because.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
In White Rice and Honey, I was like, that sounds good.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean. That's that's a big vibe.
And that's why it's so different. There's nothing in her
set like that ever, and she has never done nothing
like that after right, and that's good Forget a Story.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, that is an Acon too.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
We recorded Acon and Vitamins Beat, so no one knew
Acon at the time, so we had a song on
on Vitamins Beat from like two thousand and three with
Acon that's before lacktop all of that. I think it's
called Gunshot. So that was my brother from before anything
started popping off, you know what I mean for him.
And as soon as Get a Story hit, I reached
(27:45):
out to him. I say, oh, needia an it and
it was like nothing flew in boom knocked it out.
And then probably two weeks after we got Alisha, I'm like, oh,
this is perfect.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I mean, that was you know, something so unexpected. How
did that even happen? Did you all reach out to
her or did she you say, like, how does something
like that?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Behind the scenes, someone reached out to her, and then
she reached out back and said it would be cool
because she has a story to tell. I didn't even
know that she's from Health's Kitchen. I thought that she
was a nice suburbian nice.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know what I mean. Yeah, really didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So when she told her story, I think the world
kind of realized that, Okay, she's coming from somewhere deeper
than we that, you.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, And people wouldn't know your story either, because you know, respectfully,
you're the ladies man.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And even when you were coming up in this, it was.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Like baby, yeah, clean cut.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You do seem like you could have came up in
that same way too.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah. And you have to get back to my mom.
My mom, my mom.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Even though grew up in the gears South Jamaica without
my dad around, my mom kind of guided us.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
And you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
We have to get a five am every morning before school,
and each one of us had to read a Bible
scripture every month. Wow, you know what I mean, Monding,
So that even made me more comfortable. I get it
up in front of class and reading something from a
literature book, you know what I mean. And I got
into literature that way, and that's all the writing came about.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Mm hmm. And then look and then putting out a
song like vitamin s Yeah, things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Good vitamin and the craziest thing about vitamins. We are
Me and Dave Kelly kind of word o a vitamins.
He wanted me to give Being a Man vitamins. So
he wanted me to do Dude because Foxy the world
didn't notice, but Foxy had done a demo for Dude.
So it was Foxy Brown that was I want to
(29:37):
do it with the Wiki days. She was singing the
hook and we were going to use this as tables
turned follow up and I did the verses as a
demo and then I found vitamins. Being a Man came
to record now and Dave was like, Yo, we should
give Be.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The Man vitamins and I'm like no. When I found vitamins,
I knew it was special.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I don't care what Dude Soul Do is going to do.
I'm like, you know what, give me the dude. We're
gonna give him dude, and I'm going to do vitamins.
I'm not giving away this one, you know what I mean.
And Inga was vexed with me for like Inga was
not talking to me for like three four months after
that because the dude came.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
That was a huge Yes, she heard it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I knew that it wasn't her vocal and it anymore.
And Inga was upset for like four months.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But you don't want to either, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
What I mean. And it worked out well. I needed vitamins.
Do this, dude, you will never ever forget vitamins.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Just if you use vitamins now, you can use it
in a conversation around kids and they wouldn't even understand what.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
You're talking about.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I went to the doctor, I.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Need some m Yes, shims are sensions stress.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Somebody give r some Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
X And then listen. The other thing that you did,
and this was more recently, you did a collaboration project
with Bounty Killer. Yes, that was amazing too. I want
to say, even just watching you like, I felt like
that was energizing for you as well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It was one of the most beautiful thing to me.
Killa is like a brother.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Sound good together always.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
The first time we did was another level, so we
knew the chemistry was there and we always perform in
concert together. The chemistry is naturally there. Out of the pandemic,
myself and Dave Kelly decided that instead of just jumping
a single single project, let's do something with Rodney and
when any Rodney Price aka Bounty Killer, and we we
flew him to the Bambas at the time because he
(31:41):
didn't have visa to come into the States and we
had a We had a place right under water front
of the Bambas. We were there for one month. It's
the first time Killer ever leave Jommika for one month.
One month we're there cooking every day. There's vibe in
making music and that's all we worked on the project.
When his first visa came to was the England visa.
(32:01):
We all were praying that it would come to so
we could go to England to do the promo. It
came to on time, just as the album, just as
the EP drop time Bomb.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
We went to England.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Everyone was so happy to see Killer, who went back
to England ten months after solowed the Wembley Arena almost
eighteen to people and ever since then all the kids
have been flying for killer.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
So it's a good look.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, No, it is not a game right now, I
think for a dance on and reggae. Just seeing how
it's been proving how these shows can sell out. You know,
these brands need to get behind these artists the way
that they have been, and you've been consistent. I feel
like throughout just you know, with this music and now
with this project that you have, and you gave us
all what we needed. You know, even on a sound
(32:47):
like mister Ductress, you know I still be liking yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, because Yeah, to me, I wanted this project to
have something for all the fame, all of fame, more
lovely of showing the society, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Mister Doctors is more club vibe, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
What I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So I think this project have something for everyone. And
that's all I wanted it and it worked out perfect
for me. And even when we decided to release it,
we decided, okay, we're gonna come July. Demon Mally and
Steve Maley was going on tour Traffic Jamp tour. Normally,
before they go on tour, they will release a single
that they would use as the pivot song for the tour.
(33:25):
When we did hustling in my Blood. They called me
up and say, you know what, We're not even gonna
drop no single. This is our single for the tour.
So whatever you doing, you have to be on tour
with us, and to be on Torol with them promoting
the same night every night, every single night, we had
us promoting that song, performing it all chree of us together.
I've done a big record with my self Bounty Kill
(33:47):
and Dexads Slow Motion two years ago that we have
never performed that sung five times together, because you know
it goes artists. Everyone have their own thing to fulfilled.
They have their own applic shuns everything, you know what
I mean. And to be on the road myself and
Demon and Steve every night seven toes and nine toes
(34:07):
and ten toes and fifteen toes of people, I think
it's worth perfect for my project this time around.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And listen, you can ask for a better rollout.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I couldn't. I couldn't. Like It's one of them things
that you have to just neil and say thank you Lord.
You know what I mean, because you know that it's
a higher divine purpose than what you are really really about.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's not just about you it's someone else's guiding this.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, the blessings are continuing to come in. And one
thing I would say is even in the midst of
like I feel like in you know, Dancer, there was
always all these different like divisions and this person, but
it felt like you managed to avoid all of those
problems and be cool with everybody.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's the main thing. The main thing is like I think,
I'm like, I'm like a bridge. That's why I look
at myself, and I started looking at that since I
started reading and reading more about like being a collaborator.
You have some people that can't collaborate. I have some
people that are real collaborators. And recently aerd Farrell said
on an interview, he said that a collaborator knows when
(35:07):
to step back, you know what I mean. So even
when I'm on the road, I was doing concerts with Killer,
I allow Killer to take you, take the front the
front road, do what you do, and I don't feel
any less either, because I know what I bring to the.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Table, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, And then when it's my time to do my
own concerts, it's a different beast, just the same. But
you have to us learn how to share the spotlight
and yeah, I mean yes vers Yeah, man, that's it
for me. Yeah, that's it for me.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You know, it's interesting seeing these conversations around vibes cartel
and how much is getting paid too, and that all
happened because of the drama with the promoter and all
of that, and so it also made other people feel like,
well I should be getting you know, and I saw
that like all over social media, what have.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
You been doing?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Has been locked up for thirteen years, so you can't
compare them, you know what I mean? And who say
they're trying to say they should be getting the same amoune,
then you work and get the same amounde.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's been locked up for thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
No one signed proforming, not even not clip, not even
a photo. You barely sign the photo of him in prison.
So now when he comes out, you have an all
catalog that people has never ever seen him profound, So
you deserve every penny that he's getting.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, And I think the positive thing is to see
everybody's quashing beef to help the whole culture.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
The whole genre. When he wins, when I win, when
Sean Paul win, when Bounty Killer win, when being the win,
when Spice Wind, when chancey Are win, when Jaeda win,
all of us win. You know what I mean, all
of us win, all genre wins. That's it.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, I feel like that is a perfect way for
us to say thank you so much, baby Sham. And
you know the Sherlock Project is out right now, so
make sure you're I guess the people buy strng it.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Stream it and buy it at the same time.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
And also you do have some dates coming up, so
I want to make sure we all know that because
you are going to be in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Brooklyn, I hope you can make the show Corney Island
with the legend Barry Salmon and the legend Mastery Griffiths.
For me, that's an anna. So it's New Jersey, it's
a n J park, which it was the Performance Art
Center in New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
And nowhere and in New York and the Corney Island
in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
And then you're also going to Toronto. You're going to
Riviera Bees, Florida, and then welcome to deer Mark Cruise.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yep, yep, please.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
It's gonna be a wild time fire fire.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
The Toronto concert is special.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
It's Bounty Killer's first time performing in Tronto in like
probably twenty years. First time and it's the first time
anywhere in North America is seeing myself Bounty Killer and
Decks Adapts performing slow motion together.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
That is for Sarah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
We need to be in Toronto, butppatiently there's angela day.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
So we'll send you a video.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Please. Let's I'm gonna be I'm gonna be looking online
and whatever it is I reposted, but again, thank you
so much. I appreciate it. Before we even started, I
showed you this the throwback picture of us.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
We should, we should. I let them see that Welcome
from d one is not just.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
No super clean, super clean, right ladies, man, babes.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Angelie and it's Babysham that's me. Can you hear me? Good?
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