Breaking Down Facts, Backlash, 106 & Sports, & Career Moves with Cam Newton & Ashley Nicole Moss

Breaking Down Facts, Backlash, 106 & Sports, & Career Moves with Cam Newton & Ashley Nicole Moss

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the way I'm or my guy cast because he
is here with me asking the comas and Cam Newton,
I hear the host of one O six and Sports,
Welcome to way up.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
At Angelai and thank you for being here. Yes, don't
try to get unlikely now that right energy.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
I'm just trying to, you know, make sure that y'all
smell a palasanto in the sage because I'm trying to
be on my best behavior.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Okay, yeah, you always do that.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
I don't feel like everybody.

Speaker 6 (00:33):
Yeah, you'll always do that.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, Right to promo and tell me about quarter Sports.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Tell me how it went when you guys, I know
you had to like test together on social on zoom,
right because you couldn't do it in person. So how
was it when you guys first tested together to actually
host this show together?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
We actually did ours on zoom and everything else was
like in person for me. So when I knew the line,
they didn't really tell me. I don't know her experience
may be different, but they say, hey, we want to
we want you to come to LA And this is
new for me because I used the analogy of the

(01:14):
hunter versus the hunted as an athlete. You're the hunted
with brands, you're hunted with opportunities, You're hunted with so
many different things, and now being away from the game,
you now become the hunter. Like you have to now
show yourself in these you know, different networking opportunities. You
have to show yourself or the willingness to show yourself

(01:34):
on these type of stages or whatnot. And you know,
people reached out to the personnel and.

Speaker 6 (01:42):
I did.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Ashley Hers was like first because she was actually doing
something in.

Speaker 7 (01:49):
The NBA playoffs, so like I couldn't go to LA,
so we worked it out where I could do it virtual.
And yeah, I didn't know until like maybe an hour
before I had the test that I was testing with you.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
Did you know ahead of time who you were?

Speaker 6 (02:04):
I don't know. I don't know. I just would would have.
I hope that everybody did do their stage.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And this is good. This is early afternoon came. I
just want to say it's.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
I got on his good side straight out the bat.
I complimented him, okay, and that's how.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
That's all which compliment was.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
It was to compliment him too. When he came in,
I said, like your hat but he still.

Speaker 8 (02:29):
Was how did you never want to bet award?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
He said, look, maybe the compliments can we get that?

Speaker 6 (02:39):
I just want to be invited outside of you.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Know, promoting one on six and Sport which comes on
every Wednesday, you know, ten Eastern, nine Central.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Fifteen October fifteenth, one on six and Sport where sports
and entertainment Collode.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
I was about to say, you know a lot like
you know what camp and let's have.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
One of them to date your question.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
As you know, like when you're in person with someone,
it's so it's different when you're virtual. So our screen test,
the fact that it was virtual and it went as
well as it did was probably the flow.

Speaker 8 (03:15):
Is just easy.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
What what are you talking about?

Speaker 8 (03:17):
We were talking Sanders. I think in the screen test
things haven't changed.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
Yeah, we were talking about like which reality show would
you go on?

Speaker 1 (03:26):
And what did you say?

Speaker 8 (03:27):
He said, the challenge I need did something similar to
the challenge.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
So it was that the Marines joint the Marine.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
Special Force Special Forces.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Yeah, he jumped from the boat to the helicopter.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
Naked in the frame.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
You don't take it to a fall.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
Naked, you would really want to do naked and afraid,
you know, we can arrange.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
That there's a lot of people are naked.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
In I said something like love is okay or something
like because something so different from my personality. Like I
was about to say, like, I think you fit right in.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Lots of personality.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
Person storry during the pandemic. I was approached to be
on The Bachelor when it was the who was the
first black Bachelor?

Speaker 8 (04:18):
Matt James?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
That was oh yeah. I met at Matt at iHeart Festival.

Speaker 8 (04:20):
That was the year they approached me. And I got
really weirded.

Speaker 7 (04:23):
I got so far in like the casting, and then
what weirded me out is they wanted a full health
screen test. And I was like, well, why are you
guys assuming that, Like well, you know that's kind of
what shows. And I was like, yeah, I'm good. I
was like, thank you, but you would have did it.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
That's interesting.

Speaker 8 (04:38):
I got close. I was to entertain the idea.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
I'm confused a little bit. Why why the sexual I'm.

Speaker 8 (04:44):
Not doing that on camera?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
That would have been weird on camera.

Speaker 8 (04:47):
You ever seen like The Bachelor or Love Islander.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
They got the little the glow in the dark cameras
vis cameras.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
If you ain't got that that that.

Speaker 9 (04:57):
And honestly, it's kind of respect that they do the
full health screen and it is, but the franchise, the
franchise is so powerful, especially with BT bringing it back.
Obviously you've been grounding for a long time and being
a part of One of six and BT has to

(05:20):
be a huge sort of responsibility, especially when putting a
sports twist to it. So what sort of like similarities
and differences can we expect from like One of six
and Park Days to One of six and sports.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
I think the biggest thing that Cam and I both
have been trying to get across like this entire time
is like, we're not looking to replace One on six
in Park and I don't think you can. And respectfully,
so many people are so attached to the brand, and
I get it, you know, culturally, it meant so much
to us. Culturally, it has so many important moments in
music history, entertainment history, and we're not trying to erase that.

Speaker 8 (05:50):
We're basically just trying to.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
Take what the show did really well, and that was
the emphasis and the importance and putting the culture on
a major stage, a major platform, but doing that for
sports because as you know, sports and mainstream media looks
a lot different than what BET could bring, so HBCUs
aren't as highlighted as they could be. We don't talk
about athletes, specifically black athletes in a way that we

(06:14):
can on be Et on other networks. So that's really
what we're trying to do, is bring the culture back
into sports, and that is what Cam and I are
really dedicated to doing. But we've been making it very
clear because of how people how protective people are of
the one O six brand, Like, we're not trying to
erase the twenty five years of one trust me, we
couldn't if we tried. This is under the umbrella, but

(06:35):
it's a new iteration with the same all the same
aspects that you know and love about the original show.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, it's interesting they didn't just rename it something else
and they still put it under the umbrella. And I
saw you had Terrence Jayon on your show too. I
remember your conversation. You guys talked about financial literacy, which
is great, and then you said that you're cheap.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Goes back to my point.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
It's pointing to me saying full circle because it seems
like you spend a lot on clothes and fashion. But
when it comes to dating, I heard that you get
a blueberry waffle if you're lucky.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
We have to.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
And Jelicia, stop this now because you know your audience.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
Oh god, I don't want them to come after me.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
That is this is way up, start low, to go high,
to see if the person that will rise.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
It's not like a personality. The fact that you can't
even name what I have. That's what I'm trying to
tell you. It's not just thirst though, huh. Just to
let you know now for you giving all this fabrication
of waffle house, I am from it and I love
waffle house. Five eggs scrambled with cheese, double order, hash

(07:59):
brown smoke other uh.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
No no no no, no no no, no black owned business.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
There we go, there you go.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
You feel me. It's just you know what you know?

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, you know what I mean? Extremely like waffle, light
scale waffle. Matter of fact, making an angel angel, don't
me so. But as far as going on a day
making nobody, you know what.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
I'm saying, pay for nobody said that you were.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
But it's a lot of it's a lot of it,
like to start them humble and work them up.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
I don't like to start nowhere because maybe he just
likes waffle.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Somebody paying for you on the first day it happened, okay,
And how did you feel?

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Was that cool? How I feel?

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Because that must be nice?

Speaker 3 (08:44):
What type of waffle did you get?

Speaker 6 (08:47):
House?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
It was?

Speaker 6 (08:48):
She gangster.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
I don't think I've ever done that. I don't think
I ever would, but I respect them.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
So you never hit on the man?

Speaker 8 (08:56):
No, No, okay, I've like splitting someone's d I told
you this before.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I've heard that.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
I would never pay for ever like hit on a man.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
No, I've never hit on a man.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Never like, but I feel like you never thought somebody
was like attractive and being like yo, like that's my
tight hey boom, And it gave the sign.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
No, I never done it, because I also feel like
I really like when he made a joke, he was like,
but that's not hitting on somebody. That's like having a
conversation and an extra flirtation like I've never been like,
can I take you out or anything?

Speaker 8 (09:33):
I've never done that.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Okay, I've never slaid in No one's DMS.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I haven't.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
We didn't have DMS back then.

Speaker 8 (09:40):
You don't do it now.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I have a boyfriend. Yeah, I'm always in a relationship.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Then how did that dynamic happen?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Because one thing about it, I don't think a lot
of men will admit that are on the same level.
It's like women like you are intimidating and it's a
respecting It's like, yo, I gotta come correct.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I just thought I've been around, so nobody cares been around.
It has been in this business for so long, No
one cares.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
You're very specific. That was a good clean up.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
I think it's it's I have to imagine, Like for Ashley,
I can't even imagine what your dms look like.

Speaker 8 (10:25):
Cant are so crazy.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I've had friends that hit me to get to her dms, like, Yo,
that's your friend, right?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Why how people are gonna hit me after this interview?
Like what's going on with her?

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Can't you want to play a matchmaker?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Don't have your friends up a friend up with Ashley?
Because you know sometimes as guys, you know your friends
and you know I would never do that.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yes, Like that?

Speaker 8 (10:57):
Is that a good not mine or a bad not?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Because when I looked on you know what I'm saying,
the signs walking into this beautiful building, our heart. Uh,
they didn't have any pets allowed in here. Oh my dog,
all my dogs and some dogs but here, hear me
out though they're capable of being trained.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Okay, that's the hell of a dog rescue down listen
and some of the others.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
It's rescues too. So let's not lady, you know what
I'm saying, the shoe fit wearing Cinderella, I.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Got I got a dog one of your friends out. Oh,
I probably could if I fel like I felt like
she could.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Let's look, let's get out out there. Let's uh, But
I would not.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
I would not tell anybody who knows my social circle
to take any of the guys serious, because I already
know what it is.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
See that's great though, like I feel like you need
guy friends like that because and.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
You know what's sad. I'm sorry to cut you.

Speaker 8 (11:57):
No, you're fine, go ahead. What's side?

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Girls still knowingly different?

Speaker 8 (12:02):
You gave him a warning.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
Advisory, like I'm trying to tell you it's not what
you think it is. Yeah, but he and sometimes, as
you know, a lot of women on how all my.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
Girlfriends all the time. If your guy friend is not
going to hook you up with any of his friends.
There's a reason for that. Just trust them, they know.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
But does that mean that guy, you know, birds of
a feather, because they would say for women, if all
of our friends are a certain way, people will act like, well,
then she must be like that.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
Yeah, everybody has.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
My girl.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Just send me a picture of two dogs. You know
you had the dainty dog and that you had the
you know, the alley the alley dog.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
You know what I'm saying. And that's that's us.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
We're proud to be able to share stories and be
open about what it used to be like. And I
think that's the maturity in our relationship. It's not for everybody.
I'm not for everybody. I'm not trying to be America's child,
you know. I'm just here to really be my authentic self,
knowing that like, hey, we all.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Been around a block what I'm what is your authentic self?
Then if you have to describe it, not.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Being afraid to say I messed up because I think
sometimes you you know, in this world of content, in
this world of of you know, being you know, having
a platform, a lot of people can be holier than
die or not even be religious.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
You don't see the oh I can't. Don't take that
picture here, don't do this.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
It's like, well, for me, it's like, b I'm gonna
live my life and I'm not gonna hurt nobody along
the way.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
I just know what.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I like and that's just what I'm going to stand on.
And I think in regards to relationships, it's in the
eye of the beholder. And that's what I do understand
and respect about your platform. It's like, yo, like you
have interesting takes and many different guests that I was
just teasing, by the way, but I'm a fan. You know,

(14:10):
everybody has their own thought process.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
And you have to respect it.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Do you think doing your show has made you change
your thoughts on things, because you've had a lot of
guests too, and some of them have challenge even like
at Jason Wilson came on the show. He's pretty amazing
and that was a great conversation. And sometimes when you
have these shows, and I'm sure all of us can
attest to that, like we learn things. You learn about
financial literacy. I know that's how I learned a lot
of things just from being up here, you know, talking

(14:37):
about women's health issues. I've learned a lot from that.
And then having certain guests, has it changed maybe how
you think.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Or have you definitely therapeutic for me, And I think
one thing that separates me from other platforms is I'm
not afraid to talk about my real life experience. Yeah
that has probably happened or is happening, or you know whatever.
And I'm honest enough to be able to say I
I walk very light on how I receive.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Ridicule.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
You know what I'm saying, because if you've never been
where I've been, if you never had what I've had,
it's hard for you to really give an accurate kind
of judgment of what I'm going through and what it's like.
That's not to say from you know, Jason Wilson, that's
not to say from you know, doctor Brian, It's not
to say from Kirk Franklin. It's not to say from

(15:30):
you know, so many different individuals that I've been honored.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
To have on my platform. It's just like, yo, let's
talk about the real.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
And then a lot of times it gets to man,
let me tell you about yourself, and I can take it.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
And I received that in a very healthy way.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
It doesn't make me better, but I also want to
be able to say, hey, let's talk about you now.
And that's not to be petty, but it's one of
those things that it's like, Okay, do you know what
it's like for seven hundred and thirty two thousand to
hit your bank account reoccurring weeks? Do you know what
it's like to go somewhere everybody know your name? Do
you know when it's like when of the last time

(16:06):
you didn't have to have no fear when you went
to the counter and the bill exceeded twenty thousand? And
those are things that people may say, Ah, man, well,
you're giving yourself an excuse.

Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's like, no, I want the real.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Don't tell me what God would do, don't tell me
what Jesus would do, don't tell me what this person
would do, don't tell me what you need to No, man,
I'm me and if I am able.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
To discern by you going through your life.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
And I'm not going we all judge, but I'm not
gonna judge you to the extent where I'm not going
to be wise enough to receive counsel.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
It's just one of them things that's.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Like, Okay, I take it with respectfully, and I still
have to make my own judgment, but for that is
how I move and maneuver, and it just I think
I create content for me first and for people to
be impacted by it is what you can, you know,
appreciate even the more in a positive way throughout it all.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
If it's starting to debate.

Speaker 9 (17:08):
You know, both of your media careers I followed for
a long time, and I'd say you're both more player
friendly than the average analyst.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
And with yourself with.

Speaker 9 (17:17):
Cam, it feels like when you're in media, you either
got to be you know, for the people, for the
media or for the athlete, right, especially when it comes
to analyzing the game, talking about what's happening. It's gonna
be lots of headlines out there a lot of times
they're gonna need your takes, especially for One of six

(17:38):
and sports. So I guess the question I want to
ask you both is how do you find the balance
of being able to be like, Okay, I've been in
this person's position, I want to speak this way, or
I'm a fan of this person, I followed this person's career.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
I'm a media journalist.

Speaker 9 (17:51):
How do you find find the balance of being able
to see someone who is for the athlete or for
the media.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
I think for me, I mean, and obviously being from
the outside looking in, like I've never played a professional sport,
although in my head I am a point.

Speaker 8 (18:04):
Guard for the New York Knicks.

Speaker 7 (18:05):
But I think, you know, I've always been very respectful
of the craft, right, And I don't pretend to know
more than what an athlete does. But one of my
favorite sayings is, like, I don't need to be a
chef to tell you that your food doesn't taste good.

Speaker 8 (18:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Like, so the eye test does work. So I can
only speak on what I know. And that's why I've
taken the time to be knowledgeable and study the game
and learn it and constantly involve and constantly grow as
an analyst and a journalist. And I think that the
most important thing for me to do is every criticism
is rooted in respect, and it's rooted in fact. So like, yeah,

(18:42):
you may not like what I say about how you
shot in that game, or you may not like how
I feel about you as a defensive player. You may
not like X, Y and Z, but I can back
it up with a fact. I'm never gonna use something
that can only be explaining emotion to critique a player,
and I think that's where the line gets blurred. The
things that I've always kind of stood ten toes down

(19:03):
with that I'm not going to bring up. There have
been times that I've seen players out at a party
in a club and the next day they have a
bad game. Never gonna bring that up, like if it
didn't happen within the realms of the arena or the field.
For me, it's off limits. And I think that an
athlete and cam can speak to this better than I can.
I think that athletes understand criticism comes with the craft.

(19:24):
They may not like it, but they've been criticized their entire.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Life, and there's good days and bad days. Always Yeah,
it's like it's impossible to right.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
So he may not like the criticism, you know, speaking
as when he was a player, but he also understands
it comes with the territory. It's when you start talking
about things that you can't break down in stats and
in numbers that they start to put up a wall
in the fence. And I've always been someone who said
in my career, I'm never going to cross that line,
all right.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
So quick follow up on that, Some of the sports
stories sort of leak into personal right, Like a lot
of these stories top the headline is about the Yeah,
like a lot of times the bigger headlines, especially the stuff.
I'm assuming you guys are going to talk about the
stuff that has nothing to do with happens on the scoreboard.
It's something like that, cam you've been in that situation.

(20:12):
How do you sort of differentiate that? How do you
expect to explore that.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
We just saw Clay Thompson getting a questioned about Meganis Stallion.

Speaker 8 (20:19):
I would never do that. I'm not.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
I don't really care about who Clay is dating and whatnot.
But like a Jama Rant situation, for example, when he
affects how he's it affects his game. So I feel
like that's fair territory. I don't care, or like Bronni
getting drafted, that's within the realms of the game. I
don't care that Clay Thompson and MEGANI Stallion are dating.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Like I don't care.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Do you care?

Speaker 10 (20:44):
Yeah, I'm saying you don't, but you need people, That's

(21:06):
what I'm like, Like, you can't tell me you do
not find that entertaining an amusement.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
I don't either.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
But when you have to create content, right, that gives
you when when you have a job to do, it's
your job to cover the story as best as you know.
How now you're not telling lies. It's from things that
you know, from your dog Wiki to your dog Googly,
to your dog Gemini.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
To everybody like all that you use your resources.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
But the thing that I know to be true and
what will be respectable from an athlete is as long
as you are held accountable or you're holding people accountable,
favorites ain't a place that is going to make you
have longevity, right, And whether you whether you talk about
this person, you talk about that person. I think that's

(22:01):
the hardest thing is when you have so much respect
and admiration for a person and you are able to say,
hey this I'm talking about the football player here, I'm
not talking about the person.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
It happens all the time. With my critique with Jayalen Hurts.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, I was about to get to that.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
It's also my critique with Shador. It's also my critique
with you know, I'm a fan of all sets new album.
You know what I'm saying. But hello, man, living on
the rock. Which direction you want to go with Card
to B. You want to go all set Stefan Diggs,
or you want to go Nicki Minaj. It's like, it's
so much there, so why not.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
It's it's a cultural sports story.

Speaker 8 (22:42):
There's also a way to like, I hear him like
they're very interesting because it's intertwined to not.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
To not talk about it will do more Diamond not
talking about it.

Speaker 8 (22:51):
But I feel like there's a way you can talk
about it.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Right.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
It's not like, oh, Clay Thompson don't really like men,
you're moving to go. No, what I'm saying is there's
a way to talk about it in a way that's
still well.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Let's talk about it then, so we will ask a
question one more time. You don't want to hear about
Clay Thompson and making the style, but I would say.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I'm gonna tell you what I've learned.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I agree with when she says, if I see something
outside that's not posted, I'm not going to bring it up.
But if it's something that's posted, I feel like it's
fair game. So if it's something that is like, yes,
it's posted, so you can ask about something that's posted.
But if I do see, because you don't want to
be that person where you walk in the room and
people be like, here, come ask.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
You know everybody you know well because.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Oh here go call, here go call, and I'm here
with and Alicia. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Make y'all tune in every Wednesday October started October fifteen.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know, I want to ask you guys this because
this was a hot topic lately, the whole I uhould
curry thing, and I would love to hear both of
your opinions on the conversation she has who goes first her? Yeah,
And people were so upset about I have my feelings
and we'll talk about that in a second. But she
basically was saying on there that her goal in life
when she was younger was like to be a career

(24:15):
oriented person, not necessarily have kids. And then she got married,
got pregnant right away, and what she thought was gonna
happen just disappeared.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
And she's fine with that. She went in trade.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
But people are giving her a lot of backlash for
even saying that, in acting like, oh you got with
Steph Cayrie. She's ungrateful, She's this, She's that. Why would
you say that, so I want to see what your
guy's thoughts are.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
I think people purposely misunderstood her, and I think people
purposely misunderstand her. There's something about Ayisha Curry for some reason,
and I don't know if it's.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
The love affair. People have her stuff as an athlete,
as a regarded athlete.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
Good God.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
Yeah, I think it's that they always feel like she's
trying to like soun him. But the way that I
took it when I listened to it is that's not
uncommon for women in some way, shape or form. You know,
you go into your life thinking it's going to look
a certain way, and then marriage happened, or babies happen,
or let's flip it. You focus on your career and
then you look up and you're forty and you're like, wow,
I don't have kids and never got married. I prioritized

(25:08):
my career, Like did I do it wrong? I'm thirty
one and people are always like, when are you having kids?
You're behind the eight ball, like you're never going to
get married. Your clock is ticking like as if thirty
one is sixty one or seventy one.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I got some time.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
So I think that it's an it's a pressure that
women feel that men don't feel. Because men are given
the grace of as they get older, they only get better.
Women are there's an expiration date put on our prime essentially,
and we're expected to still prioritize marriage and kids. And
if you're honest and saying, hey, I didn't really think

(25:42):
about marriage and I didn't think about being a mother,
it happened to me, and I'm grateful and I love
my family, but it's not what I wanted. It's not
a picture that I had for myself, at least not
as quickly as I got it.

Speaker 8 (25:52):
It's like, oh, she hates her husband, Oh she hates
her kids.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Ye go, it's no.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
It's just like I grew up wanting to be a
lawyer or a doctor. When I got married at twenty
four years old, and I had my first baby at
twenty five, and it's no different for women who prioritize
their career and they don't prioritize love and they don't
prioritize kids, they're judged for that. It's a burden that
men don't have. And it always makes me laugh when
men have the strongest opinion about it, because like y'all

(26:18):
don't know.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
It's like you don't know that struggle if you have
kids at ninety fee, brother, I.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Feel like you got a thought. You want to get out?

Speaker 8 (26:27):
Ahead?

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Are you done? I'm done?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Go ahead, Mike is yours.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
It's always been mine. No, what I would say is
are you mad?

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Or would you be more mad if she thought it
and never said it or actually said what she was thinking?
Like a lot of people say it and that's their truth. Yeah,
I have you know, some rules of engagement when talking
about you know, certain people. If you can't relate, you
shouldn't debate, right, you can chime in and do like that.

(27:02):
And that's where you get kind of because it's how
you're chiming in. I would never why would she do?
It's like no, but but home boy, you.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
Never insinuated that there was you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
So it's like, you gotta gotta look at the optics.
Certain things may be said, but what do we actually see?
And that's what we should be focused on. Am I
mad that she said what she said?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Man?

Speaker 6 (27:32):
She's entitled to whatever she wants to do, And I
think that's what maturity gets you. That's what perspective.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Hell no, But that's not to say that I have
not hurt somebody from what I've said that I was
in a relationship with.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
And those are certain things that I believe that.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
She will learn, And that's a conversation that they have,
right And I think if they're good, and the person
that you start dating is not the same person that
you're sharing bed with years later, years later, and that's
what you would have to understand. But if you guys
are at an understanding where it's like, yo, baby, this

(28:08):
is how I felt man keep rocking out. There are
certain things that a lot of people think that it's acceptable. Well,
when you go into another relationship, some people is like,
that's a non negotiable.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
We're not doing that. So if you're saying those type
of things, and you know, I.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Spoke about it on my sports show fourth to one,
and obviously Killer Mike had chimed in, you know with
Steph and I was like, yo, what got misinterpreted was
that I was saying that Killer Mike was you know,
he should have known better.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
It's like, no, bro, like Killer Mike from Atlanta, I'll
never go against the grain like that.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
But when you have your own perspective, you should have
more insight, and Steph kind of felt that he was
siding with ain't that the truth with the actual thing,
rather than saying, like Steph saying, but you know how
this could be people going to spend the narrative and
the optics doesn't does it look right? But we're good though,

(29:02):
and I've been there, so yeah, give me what she
said doesn't sound right, doesn't look right, but we're good.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I think I think I do think that people misinterpreted
it though, because when you hear I think the problem
we have now is that there's headlines that come out
and clips and if you don't see the full conversation,
because she definitely was like, you know, but this is
what happened in my life has happened, and I never
even thought about that again, Like I had my kids.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I'm so happy and grateful for that, and never thought
about that again.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It's kind of like some I might have been, like
I thought I was gonna be married with kids at
twenty four and it didn't happen, right, and then.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
Let's let's stop.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Let's stop this, because this is what I can respect
Ayisha Curry for saying she said what she felt.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, And there's an often missed word when we're talking
about a relationship.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
While we're talking about marriage. You're married, you're in a relationship,
but are you happy?

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Because every single they've been married long enough to be
able to say, hey, during this stretch of our marriage
or our relationship, we were going through a rough time.
It's been in books, it's been in quotes. We've seen
it publicly with certain you know, relationships, and you're going
to go through those times. People look on the internet

(30:20):
or social media as if to say, the relationship is
a starting point, but it no, or it's the finishing destination,
but it's just the starting point. It's like, man, the
person that I'm having the opportunity to co host with
on when you see the show on October fifteenth, hopefully
twenty five years later, we will be able to look back,

(30:41):
or you'll look back and say, man, I was a
thirty one year old unmarried person. Now I got my partner,
hopefully I got kids.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Don't don't don't dwell. I'm just trying to tell a
story here.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
You change, and I think too many times we just expect,
oh girl, you married, but there's times where I'm not happy,
but I'm still gonna grind it out, you know what
I'm saying, because I'm not trouble. Don't last always in
any type of dynamic, and if you're willing to make
it work, that's.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
The starting point.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
To be able to say we can get through this,
and to be able to see that through their dynamic
is something that people are kind of missing.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
And yeah, is he whatever. I don't know how he feel.
Nobody ever asked him.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
And he don't need to come on a podcast talk
about It's beautiful though in.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
Some ways because from the outside looking and everybody looks
at the Curries as like the perfect like wags like
that couple, Like the kids are beautiful seeing Riley grow
up all these years. So when we said here's somebody
like ice your Curry, come on call Daddy and say that, like, Yo,
this is real life, like this is a real sort

(31:54):
of like.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
And that's what we have to highlight, the real like
real discussions, real issues where it's like I'm good with
Angelicia saying hey, I don't agree with you know your views, Okay,
let's talk about it in a healthy dynamic. How was
you feeling about this. You know you you're a Dallas fan.
How you a Dallas fan? You're from Brooklyn?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Like what, that's what?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
That's crazy.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
Repeating it one day? My dad is a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Break that cycle. I can.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
I'm too far deep now.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Calas was suffering. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Yeah, this whole weekend.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
I haven't seen the victory since twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Let's not talk about what just happened.

Speaker 8 (32:40):
Talk about the Yankees.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
It's all good. His knicks, basketball is right around.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Maybe just keep getting you know what.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
The craziest thing about the seventy Yeah that's crazy too,
But that ain't crazy what I'm about to say.

Speaker 6 (32:55):
He still gave him a three star review.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Wait, he was not I thought he was a driver.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
He was not driver.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
He delivered frying oil.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
Said, Yo, this dude had time to get down. He
didn't kill me. I would have gave him a warm Did.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
You see that video?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
The fact that he was like making him a friend
and he still was walking through it like it was nothing.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
I was like, then they dropped the picture today he
was the guy was in a neck.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Brace and like, at ye, Now that was awful, But
that he played for the Jets man.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
Yeah, it's been a rough week after Jets fans, just
New York fans in general, Yankee stink giants.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
We only got the next to look forward to, right.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Baby Blue Lies.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
You know earlier you mentioned the word non negotiables right
in your conversation, So I want to ask about non
negotiables here.

Speaker 8 (34:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
We'll start with you, Ashley, because he's hoping that, you know,
you'll look at this show when you were thirty one
and single, right in five years later, hopefully you have
a man.

Speaker 8 (34:19):
Single.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
She said it, I said it, not all in New York,
in the world, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Okay, non negotiables, just for the people in our dms
that are asking.

Speaker 8 (34:29):
I definitely like someone who's intelligent.

Speaker 7 (34:31):
I'm somebody who likes to learn things and I like
to have conversations with people who can teach me things.
So doesn't I necessarily have to be BookSmart. I think
that intelligence comes in all forms. But I want to
be able to have a conversation with you and leave
with something, or you know, being able to have a
conversation with you and it's like an intelligent conversation.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
I don't want to be like, so, what's up with you?
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Like?

Speaker 8 (34:56):
No, like talk to me, like, give me something. I
like someone who I need, a compassionate person.

Speaker 7 (35:03):
I think that I'm somebody who can, like really keep
their feelings bottled up. I'm a capricorn me too, Yeah,
so you know, like we can get mood swings and
we can kind of keep our feelings to ourselves. And
it may be an uncommon thing, but I think somebody
who knows me well enough to be like, what's.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Wrong with you? Like nothing?

Speaker 8 (35:23):
No, No, what's wrong?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
That's really wrong?

Speaker 8 (35:25):
And that's rare that you sad for.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
I love.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
I love to laugh, so a non negotiable I have
to be with something money, Like, you have to be
able to laugh. You have to be able to laugh
at yourself. You have to be able to crack jokes
like I need someone who can make me laugh. And
honesty is really important to me, Like tell me what
it is and let you said, yeah, tell I'm always
someone like I would rather know what it is and

(35:52):
let me decide what to do next than finding out
down the line. And then I'm mad because I'm a
really loyal person. I believe in law loyalty and not.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Something can't your own paper with loyalty?

Speaker 8 (36:03):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Because everybody says they're loyal until it requires them to
be loyal, and.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
Then they just jump ship.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
I can tell you I'm very loyal.

Speaker 6 (36:11):
You need somebody to say that you're loyal. You can't
say that.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
You're a loyal Capricorns in general are pretty loyal. That's
one of our trades. We're like, yeah, and we're like
too loyal.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
Yeah, we're too Like if we're locked in with you,
we're locked in and then and then we can like
be in different towards.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
What's your son?

Speaker 8 (36:26):
He's a Taurus God.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Direct reflection of him.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
Well, I think that's all we get along. So well
we're Earth's signs Earth.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, I mean, what's your what's your non negotiables?

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Respect? R E, S, P E C T.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
That's generic in what way?

Speaker 7 (36:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Uh, everybody has respect until there's a situation where they
have to show you respect.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
I'm trying to tell you, and you better show me
some respect because because if you don't, it's gonna get
control all deleted.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
From in this situation, listen to understand, not listen to
just respond. That's one of the things, just like h
Oftentimes when you're having a discussion with a person, and
tone is important too. I think jazz has taught me that.
And all the women that's in my life. When I

(37:20):
mean women, I'm not talking about in a sexual manner.
I'm talking about people like my mother, you know, the
mother of my children. They have impacted my life and
have helped me, you know, be the person that I
am now. And taking a step back to realize, like,
it's not all the times. What you say is how

(37:40):
you say it, because some people can get tuned out
by like man, you're coming at me like no no
no no, no, no no no, especially the severity of
the situation. It's the tone and responding with the intent
to understand first. And if we could do that, then
Diskott's the limit.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
It's interesting we had this whole topic mens. People were
calling in today. We were talking about and arguments who
gets more disrespectful men or women?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
And everybody that called in said women.

Speaker 8 (38:13):
But you want to know, women will rip you like verbally.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Just like and because they are the safe space. They
are the safe haven, they are the ear, they are
the pillow talking object.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
It's like man, baby, let me tell you something. It
happened last night.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Like, man, they know you, they know what you care about,
they know what you don't care about. So even if
you mad that I don't scratched your little car, you
really care about them clothes?

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Go after them? Oh you, Oh you're gonna play me.
I'm gonna go after what you love the most.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Do you think that's because women are more emotional than men.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
I don't care what it is. I don't know what
it is, but y'all gotta stop it.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
Wait you say y'all, you mean all women, because all women.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Do not, So I think we should change.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Had a million callers coming, and not one person said.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Even the women were saying.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
One guy called it and said, when his girl gets mad,
she tells me he has a little penis.

Speaker 8 (39:22):
The woman break up with guys, And that's the first
thing they say, like.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
You can play that with me, because I'm saying you
can't even.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
Will be uh.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Every And then she'll say it was easy.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
Cool, but you did it though, because you never con
played me.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
So there's nothing woman can say to you that like
rattles nothing.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Because I'm so secure in who I am. I've already
had that conversation with myself. I know where my weak
spots are. Now there's things that she can say that's
like damn, Like that's low, but it won't affect me
to get me out of character, like those type of
things where it's like, if I'm doing something out of character,

(40:26):
you see them right there. Yeah, but I would have
probably removed myself from the situation.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's good.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
It's like, no, we ain't.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
That's how I feel if I'm in an argument, I
just have to not say nothing for a little while
because I never want to say something that I feel like, damn,
I shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Have said that.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
Later, you're non negotiables, oh.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
My non negotiables. Well, definitely, I definitely need somebody with
a good sense of humor because I do like to laugh.
I don't like anybody that's too serious. I like people
that watch the news and can like talk about what's
going on in the world, because I know my job
every day is to kind of like stay up on
those things, and so part of it is sometimes I
feel like I look at social media a lot for work,

(41:09):
but I like to have like other types of conversations
other than that, So that's important to me. And I
like people who are ambitious. I don't like people who
are in a space and they're content there and they
could do that for the rest of their life. I
want people that's always like, all right, how are we
going to do this? They have ideas like what's next?
And supportive because sometimes people could be like not supportive
of what you're doing?

Speaker 5 (41:29):
What that's a that's a big for.

Speaker 6 (41:42):
During Like what's the question?

Speaker 8 (41:45):
Did you find it difficult to date? Just out of curiosity.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Media?

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Woman?

Speaker 8 (41:54):
In media?

Speaker 2 (41:55):
I think that well, first of all, I would say
like I usually always was in a relationship. It made
it easier for me because it keeps you like out
of the mix, out of trouble, like to be in
a relationship, but so not really and I more am
like always have data people that kind of didn't have
anything to do with what I was doing.

Speaker 9 (42:13):
That Yeah, I got a follow up question, Actually, you're
like a rising star in sports media, but y'all kind
of stumped over mind?

Speaker 5 (42:20):
Oh question was there?

Speaker 6 (42:23):
I said them, Yeah you did.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
But my follow up to that question was, you're talking
about supportives. Do women support each other?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
But that's not a support I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Some don't I'll say that I only am around people
who are supportive of me because I've been on the
other side of that where people have been like haters
behind your back and you know, try to do things.
So now if I see some red flags instead of
me like trying to work through it or make excuses
for someone and women, Yeah, but I will say that
for a lot of things that I do, women have

(43:00):
been the most supportive of me. Like I have my
friend Ingrid, who has her own wine company. We like
every day are talking to each other, helping each other out.
When she gets in a space I have a coffee company,
She'll try to bring my brand in. She'll set up
meetings for me, and like, we just really help each other.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
How long you Ingrid?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Maybe like twelve years?

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Yeah, I'm talking about a two month.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (43:25):
There's definitely a mean girls club in media. Like for
both of y'all sports.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
Music, you're better at it than women.

Speaker 7 (43:31):
I think hold on, let me let me talk you
through what I'm saying here. I think that men are
better at it than women because there are more spaces.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Okay, it's more competitive.

Speaker 7 (43:41):
There is a level of competition like athlete led podcasts
or you know, people in the media, But there's so
many avenues and so many spaces for men that it's easy.

Speaker 8 (43:51):
And I put that in quotes to be supportive, like
you let me.

Speaker 7 (43:54):
Put my guy on or let me like it's just
easier because there's more opportunity for them. I think women,
although it's getting better, there's a small group of us
in this media landscape that are in top positions right,
and that looks different to everybody. So you think if
I reach back, like if I'm on the mic and
I reach back to the next girl who's trying to

(44:15):
get on the mic will shoot, I may be carving
at her spot and that's going to be my spot,
pushing me out, bringing the new girl in. So a
lot of the times there's a level of fear that's
tied to helping the next generation. I know, coming up
in my career, I never had a female mentor.

Speaker 8 (44:30):
All my mentors were meant.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
I credit guys like Jalen Rose and Nate Burleson who
we saw today for really taking me under their wing
and helping me out.

Speaker 8 (44:40):
There were a lot of.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
Women in the industry who I reached out to that
weren't very receptive to me, that weren't very welcoming of me,
and they were only welcoming of me when I was
below them, when I was still trying to come through it.

Speaker 8 (44:51):
But as I was moving through my career, and.

Speaker 7 (44:53):
Now we're in the same rooms, and we're in the
same spaces, and we're interviewing the same players and at
the same events. Now it's like, oh, okay, now this
is where the line is drawn, because now you're my competition, right,
and I'm somebody who I've always kind of looked at it.
I think some people preach women empowerment and some people
actually move women empowerment. And I think it's a difference

(45:15):
between saying something and doing it and saying something just
to say because it sounds good. And I think unfortunately
a lot of women use it as a talking point,
but their actions are the complete opposite of what I
think that means. I'm a firm believer, as cliche as
it sounds, you can't take what's for me. So if
I help you, it's not going to derail my success.

(45:36):
It's not going to derail what belongs to me. It's
only gonna, I think, bring good karma in my direction
because I help somebody get to the point what they
want to get to, and I don't.

Speaker 8 (45:45):
Think a lot of people actually believe that. They just
say it. And that's just kind of how I feel
about it, just because that's been my experience.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I wouldn't say though, I did start my podcast lip
Service with the intention of having a space for women
like to be able to you know, have the conversation
and lead conversations, because I didn't think at the time
when I started it, and I actually started liftservers when
I was on Serious and then I made it into
a podcast that we've been doing for like twelve years.
But I've always had all women hosts and like people

(46:11):
have gone on to do other things, you know, you know,
just from that, but just because I felt like there
was just a lack of it, like as far as
you know, platforms whereas all women talking, and then I
bring in like women guest hosts and things like that
just because I'm always like, you know, I want to
see people win.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I've been doing this for such a long time. For
a long time, I'm okay, I.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Even talking about how people kind of leave to kind
of go other places. Do people understand the business and
how how is that kind of you know, the line
in the saying where it's like, hey, I know you've
played a part in growing the show, but understanding there's

(46:56):
a business side that's it far exceeds just the entertainment.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
How do you how do you kind of.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Make the masses understand that, especially from a female dynamic
or a woman dynamic. Dare I say female, but the
women dynamic where you got a bunch of sisters, a
bunch of girls that's rocking and rolling, building a platform,
but they may not necessarily No, that's not to say
that men.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
Can't feel the same way.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
You mean like the business of.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
It, business, the business of audio or visual content.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Right, because first of all, and I know that you're
in that space now where you're helping other people who
are able to have their own platforms. And I think
that there's always going to be people that our boss
doesn't take initiative and do their own thing, because I
don't think you should be on any platform and not
be having other things going on. You know, we're not
in a day and age where you can do just
one thing. It's always like, okay, I never want to

(47:51):
feel reliant on just one thing. I want to make
sure that while i'm doing this platform. I have this
going on, this going on, This is like the center
of it, and I have all these planets that orbit
around it. But yeah, I think that's you know, it's
hard sometimes for some people are not that great. That's
why I say ambition is important to me because I
like to surround myself with people who are ambitious and

(48:12):
who want to do other things. I think that's the
best thing, right And I think that's the best thing
in a relationship to you want to be with somebody
who this is like always trying to grow and do
other things. And so I feel like that about work
and who I'm with. Even like for me to have
a co host on the show, I want somebody that
wants to be like a main host, you know what
I'm saying, Like, that's what I look for.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
If I want that.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
Better.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
When you get this person started here and.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Now look at where they are, that's like a true
measure of the success that you have if you help
other people build successful things.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
You know, that's a rare mindset. Though not a lot
of people have that mindset, especially women in the industry.
That's the unfortunate reality of it. Is like a lot
a lot of people have that like they want to
put you on, but they don't want you to do
better than them down the road.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Let me ask, though, that does that affect how you
move though? Because I feel like a lot of.

Speaker 9 (49:08):
Women in the sports industry they always get some some
sort of unfairly like judge, the criticized to look at,
like in.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
What way amongst themselves?

Speaker 9 (49:19):
Always like especially like if you're a woman who's never
played a sport, there's always like there's always that, there's
always pretty girl book stuff. There's always like, you know,
there's been lots of talk about like lots of women
in the industry and what they've done, you know, like
behind the scenes, all that type of stuff.

Speaker 6 (49:36):
How did they get to?

Speaker 8 (49:38):
My favorite comments is who did you sleep with to
get this job?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Like they said that about me when I studied that Syrians.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
I got this job and they're like, who did you
sleep with to get this job? I'm like, the world
will never know, But does.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
That affect the way you moved though?

Speaker 7 (49:53):
It did When I was younger, it definitely did, because
it's like the natural reflex is to defend yourself, and
like I would get on Twitter and I would.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Pop back and like I will it's somewhere you Forbes
thirty on the thirty. Yeah, it like when you get
certain accolade, it's not even worth it trying to like whatever,
I'm where I am and it is what it is.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
It was just like a natural reflex because you want
to defend yourself, Like, no, you know how long I
had to work to get to this point, Like you're
not about to erase it with X, Y and Z.
But I've also realized that, like I've done interviews in
a turtleneck and slacks and I'm trying to douce a
player with my eyes. I've done it.

Speaker 8 (50:25):
I've done an interview and address that was a little
too tight.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Oh doesn't she know he's married?

Speaker 8 (50:29):
Like, I can't win.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
I would literally have to do an interview with a
garbage bag over my face and then they'll say something about.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
My hand movements, like I nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
There's nothing I can do. Everything I do is wrong.
I could sneeze, and I sneeze the wrong way. So
it's just kind of like you gotta deal with it.
And I think I mean everybody like Cam, I know
you get it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I know people come into it's kind of what people
would say, this is what comes with the job, right,
you put yourself on a platform, but it also is
sometimes not what you necessarily sign up for.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
You're just trying to do like great work.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
But you you if you post.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Public, you get Christis publicly too. But I'm such a
fan of other platforms, like you can never make me
hate it is what it is. You can never make
me hate the pivot. You can never make me hate
you know, Shannon Sharp.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
You can never like seven PM stephen A Smith lip.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Service like YO is a culture show, it's a it's
black shows, it's white Like I see a very big
fan of uh call her daddy, right. I love how
she strategized certain you know things like no for like
you have to like everybody sees my content and think

(51:50):
that it's just something that I just wake up and do.
It's like, no, you have to be a student of it,
like mister Beast, like, hey let's do a collab.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Hey you have to.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
I'm not looking at no others athlete as competition. D
d G is my competition. Consanet is my competition, mister
Bast is my competition. THEO Vonn is my competition. Barstool
is my competition. But that's not to say that we
cannot all collabse right, see sports teach you that if
you're not wearing my colors, you're the enemy. Well, content

(52:21):
should teach you that you don't have no enemies.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
It's just your next collaboration.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
Okay, Cam with that man, you can work out of
his actual studio in Atlanta also.

Speaker 6 (52:33):
Or you can come to my studio the next time.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
You and I will because I'll be there soon.

Speaker 8 (52:38):
You had on the pod. Yeah, you know, I've yet
to get an invitation to Cam's podcast.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Right.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Really, as many times as I seen him, he hasn't
asked me what.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Wait, you haven't been on there? He has not asked.

Speaker 7 (52:59):
Music for him when he came in for his photo shoot.
What did you play everything? Atlanta?

Speaker 6 (53:06):
My next question is when the next When was the
last time.

Speaker 8 (53:08):
She was in Atlanta when we did the Parmo shoot?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Well, okay, and then you left win the next day,
she would have stayed and changed her flight.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
I wouldn't change my flight.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
You can, okay, girl, every Wednesday.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
I would have changed my flight for you.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Right, Look for me, I'm all about empowering and also
being moved to do. And I see so many different
people have platforms and that's what I want to kind
of highlight and magnify. So if you're ever in Atlanta,
when your ass come to Atlanta, make sure y'all stop

(53:55):
by Iconic Sager Studios and just you know what I'm saying,
Let's create some content.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
We have like a Capricorn takeover for sure.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
Baby, maybe on a cat minimum on a courme to
the next game?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Ye yes, I hate that. I'm a Nets fan. I
know I'm from Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
What Capricorn loyalty?

Speaker 6 (54:26):
Right there?

Speaker 8 (54:27):
You are?

Speaker 3 (54:27):
You found a black fan. I used to go to
the next game in Jersey.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
Yeah, so you've been loyal to the.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Barclays for like the last day.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
There.

Speaker 8 (54:39):
We gotta have you come to a next game.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
For real, going to the finals year.

Speaker 8 (54:43):
We're going to get you a next jersey, little orange
bow tie.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
Have you ever done the course of the garden? It's
an experienced man. Why are you thinking that?

Speaker 7 (54:53):
Have you?

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Nobody?

Speaker 6 (54:54):
Nobody hit you know?

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Said yes, all right, you know who I am, nigga.

Speaker 10 (55:03):
I'm just I've been like I've been powering for a
long time of years of the Knicks, not for the years.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
When the Knicks mesanity. Like, Bro, I was there. I
don't like I didn't need to post to enjoy it,
to say, like, I don't have the picture of insanity
what you brought up, because all the time moment, you
just have to be there.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I've experienced Jeremy Jersey, don't do that.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
One of my favorite things about cameras when he gives
you that side. I we were doing to promotion you
and someone said we were going over some sort of
copy or something and someone said, cam you you were
an m v P.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Right, he goes, I'm modesty, don't disrespect God has blessed me.
You have lived a life that man and Jelicia we've

(56:07):
been we've been popping that money. Been good. You know
what I'm saying. I just do it subtly, interview.

Speaker 9 (56:14):
Pledged content, creative member of the media, someone who's lived
so much life. Does any of those experience take away
from that? Knowing that you were on there as one side,
as an athlete, as a center of attention, and now
you're there.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
It's happening right now, Bro, And I'm not saying it's
just being honest man, the best thing about me is
that I have children, right, and I just want them
to understand why I'm not always there. And it could
it could be hectic, you know, being the bail cow
of your family, you know, you have to sacrifice so much.

(56:45):
Pictures are important, videos are important. And for a long
time I was going through a very you know, tough
time or a very busy time in my life having
young children where you know, they'll put the phone down,
Daddy and then boom, the just fan gone. And it's
kind of like that still, even though they all have
blue screens, and you know, we try to limit it

(57:05):
as much as possible. So that's why, you know, cole
parenting is important. That's why you know, relationships with you know,
family members is supported because it takes a village.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Hey, A, I need you to go do this for me. A,
I need you to help me, you know with this.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
You know, one of my favorite you know, uh people
that has a major impact in my family is my
sister in law.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
Right, she just got a doctorate. Uh and she's so education,
so education, so education.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Well, if the kids gonna be on the iPad, we
might as well download you know, certain programs that they
can do these types. I never would have known that, right,
And you have such a guilt sometimes when you're when
you're away, right, it's day, it's a day away, two days. Man,
you're gonna be going for three or four days. And

(57:52):
I just hope that while I'm absent, they understand and
I know who I am, that they will. And it's
it's it's that that you know, puts a lot of
a lot of things in perspective because I'm hustling, like
I'm hustling like today ESPN looking forward to shooting the

(58:12):
Tyler Perry Studios with the one oh six and Sport
gig Boom, still you know, doing multiple shows a week
from my own fourth and one. Hey we're still doing
Funky Friday. Hey, We're still doing all these different things.
And and I'm not stopping. I'm not complaining and knowing that,
like yo, the only thing that makes me genuinely happy

(58:32):
is hearing.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Stop but stop.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
I'm about to go tell Dardy, Like, what's ill doing?

Speaker 6 (58:44):
Daddy? In here?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I can smell them, you know what I'm saying. Like
those type of memories really like how I really lock
in and I just I just know that and uh,
coming from where I came, I've always had family and
that that just is.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
Yeah, that's it, that's important.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Oh that was amazing.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
That was great.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Don't believe I don't believe everything you on the internet. Now,
what did you hear about cam Newton? Let's just keep
it a bug. Let's talk before we get out of here.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Let me see what have I heard about you? But
I know you want to have more children?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Hello, right, I know you're scared of divorce extremely So
that's why we don't know where this relationship situation will it?

Speaker 3 (59:32):
You know, marriage? Is that ever in the cards? We
don't know. Let me see what else have we heard
a lot of people care you asked me what I've
heard that?

Speaker 6 (59:40):
I just don't know. You keep going, but I can
still give like a footnote.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Of well, because I think when sometimes people are in relationships,
they feel like you know that that leads to marriage
at some point.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
They never asked are you happy? And I always will
love to say happy as hell? Lit?

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
And I will say this, I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
My parents got divorced when I was but they still
live together to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
They do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
And I've never been like I got to get married.
I got to get married, so it's not. But if
it happens, it happens. I'm okay with being with somebody
forever and not doing that, So it doesn't really what.

Speaker 8 (01:00:20):
Said, are they knocking boots?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
No, I don't think so, But I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
Ask the questions that we really want to shutting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Up even on the couch.

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
They go to their separate corner.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Sneaking out the house. I never heard nothing when I
went past their room say that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:44):
I think it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (01:00:45):
I think it also like like my parents have been
married my entire life. They're still married, and marriage is
not something I ever thought about, Like I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Never really thought about it, like you should carry no kidding,
I mean I've never.

Speaker 8 (01:00:58):
I never I never even visioned my wedding. I never
played bride in my head. I never did any of that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
That wasn't think about what you're gonna wear to your wedding.

Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
At least you don't wear hat just like you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
Gonna wear Let me tell you what it's gonna leave
me wearing nothing.

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
You already know, naked in a fridge.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
And as you get older, you may not even care
about sex anymore. I could see that like just being like,
I'm just happy being here and spooning.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
The anything on the internet real about you? About you,
anything you've seen? Is it factual?

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
A lot?

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Yeah, some things that's true in it, but there's more
things that's like, wait.

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
What you get that from?

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
What is those?

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
What what's something you said that you're like? Dang, where
they got that from?

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
You are really good at what you do?

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
You got jumped?

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
But what though?

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
I don't know, you know, my brain is spinning. But
I'm just gonna say, you know what's on the internet
that is true?

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
Make sure you tell me. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
That show you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
It was Sports and Entertainment Collide. Ashley Nicole Moss is
the host, co hosted by Cam Newton.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Period exclamation points, Yes, get that cap her props.

Speaker 6 (01:02:23):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
He's gonna say, have you on the cap?

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no. Just make
sure that you leave out the coin.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
You say that.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
No, No, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
Babies always shining over here, you feel me? But yeah, man,
I'm extremely happy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I'm happy for you guys. It's gonna be a good
time show man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Wait, for it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:44):
I'm super proud of you too.

Speaker 7 (01:02:45):
I just want to say that I saw I saw
Nate this morning and it was a full circle moment
for me because he was when I launched Laces Out.
He was like one of the first people to do
an episode. We went to his house in Franklin Lakes
and we spent hours with him and he didn't have
to obviously we weren't.

Speaker 8 (01:03:00):
Paying him or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
And he first Black women host.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
Yeah, he really took me under my wing, I mean
his wing, and even you when we did Certified Buckets.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Yeah, uninterrupted you talking about this, yeah, before you.

Speaker 9 (01:03:14):
Got here at I'm seeing Ashley's rise from like a
person on Twitter from Knicks fan TV pisses off every
Knicks fan for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Where she's at now. I'm just always usually right though.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
I got like an eighty percent accurate accuracy rate when
it comes to my takes from.

Speaker 8 (01:03:30):
The next, after before, after what before, Like yo, listen,
I was right on my Tims take.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
It was right about Tis, right about Detroit, I was.

Speaker 7 (01:03:44):
Right about I was right about the Pistons when I
said Little Caesar's Little Pizza Palace arena.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Hey, but you know, we got him up here, We
got him up here.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
We're gonna put this on the jumbo tron. We're gonna
we're gonna blame her when we win.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
And what guess what?

Speaker 8 (01:04:00):
We said them packing And.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
I'm really I'm really excited for your show.

Speaker 9 (01:04:05):
Many I love it, really proud to say, y'all two
together man and one of six. Just hearing one O
six being talked about together, it's just nice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
And they just recently had their anniversary like celebration. Y.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Yeah, that's dope, that's been that's that's that's the toughest
thing for me, though I can't speak for Ashley. Like
when I saw Free and when you see a J,
when you talked about when you talk to Terrence J,
when you see Roxy, it's like, bro, y'all did the
hell of a job. Like I just hope, I hope

(01:04:38):
I do my part.

Speaker 6 (01:04:39):
You know what I'm saying. I know gonna do hers.
But it's like, yo, that's like.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
This is a different iteration.

Speaker 7 (01:04:43):
It's not like that's why it's so important for us
to keep reiterating it, Like we aren't going into this
with like a level of arrogance.

Speaker 8 (01:04:51):
It's not like, yeah, we hear now and like, if anything,
for lack.

Speaker 7 (01:04:56):
Of a better word, we're a little terrified, and that's fine,
We're a little We're a little scared because that's a
good thing. And like we want to do justice by
the brand and we want to do right by but
also let everyone know we're not trying to erase it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
There's nothing better than being terrified to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I think it's amazing when you're shook and then it
happens and you make it happen, it feels great.

Speaker 8 (01:05:17):
Yeah, you will shut marriage.

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
Cold, man, Well that for you. Don't going to kick
it out.

Speaker 7 (01:05:34):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
I'm about to go down your whole list.

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
From now, maybe i'll have a man and maybe you'll
be mad about how you find how.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
Many people you following and then across contaminated. That's right there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I can't wait twenty five years from now. Let's get
back together and talk about it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
Five years we're gonna be in twenty five days. This
is gonna be a recurrent episode CAM coming on on
the first day.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Thank you, guys. I appreciate it and I'm excited at congratulations.
Amazing m