August 12, 2025 • 32 mins
Conway the Machine Gets Real: Album Titles, Hip-Hop Legends, Paris Rumors & More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up its way up at Angela.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ye, of course, my guy Mano is rocking with me
and we got a super special guest, Conway the Machine
is here with us.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
How you feeling today good?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm good. I'm feeling blessed.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I so you were in Bogota, Colombia. See shoot in
the video? How was that?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
That was amazing? Colombia is beautiful, Boga Tar is beautiful.
We shot an il video custom some God footage out there.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ate some God food. You know what, man? It was love.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
They were going crazy from the footage I saw too.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It was crazy.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Paul music right, get you, get you out of your
your your immediate element, and put you in places you
never dreamed of.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Facts and Griselda is definitely it's like a full circle with.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Griselda, Colombia all of that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, that is I think about that, think
about that when I was out there, I thought that
is right right.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So talk to me, man, you got a lot going
on right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Obviously the new single, so that means there's a new
album on the way now. I know we're not supposed
to talk about dates yet, but how is that going?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's going good. I'm running out the brinks of a completion.
So it's going, well, you know what I mean, it's
called on you Can't Kill God with Bullets. Like you said,
I don't really know the date yet, but we're about
to drop down in the next the next few few weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
That feels personal, that title.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
With bullets. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It feels like really overcoming some things.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, I know, because I know coming up with the
album title is a process, right Yeah, so talk to
me about why that title you Can't Kill God with Bullets.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, I was just, you know what I mean, really
a playoff for like, you know, I got shot in
the head twice, so it was really a playoff for that.
And just I mean, like you know, they can't kill me, man,
they just reveiled me. I'm my full potential right now.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know. It's belt the ass season.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That gave me trauma from my childhood. Used to get
beating every day over very small things. And I do
shut up, and I do want to say that we
got a preview of the album. I already could tell
you the standout song to me that I love is Dreams.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, I want to.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's a really special song.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And so I just want to talk about some of
the topics that you had on dreams, even how you started.
You started off it just feels very positive. You woke
up feeling like you test the sky thinking about all
the things that you overcome that you could never think
about in your in your wildest dreams. But then you
also talk about things that happened in the past, like
signing a deal, and people think when you sign a deal,
(02:51):
like life is good after that.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, it's all great.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Can you flash back to that time because you've been
rapping for so long since you were a teenager, and
then when you sign a deal, you think things are
gonna automatically be like people think you automatically have money.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, well you know that's that's you know, most most DALs.
And you know when you any any business or whatever
you get into, like it ain't probably gonna at least
not immediately gonna be like what you what you think
or what you thought like, you know, it ain't overnight,
you know what I'm saying. Sometimes it takes a little
a little grind, you know what I'm saying for it
(03:25):
to reach that point of where you feel you're getting
a return on your involvement. You know what I'm saying,
but you know what I mean in that line and
like in that song, like I was just really like
using that as a like.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I called it like I was. I was on my
Coach Prime on my Coach Prime Wave, like in.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The locker room at halftime, like you know what I'm saying,
because I always just I always line it up as
like we don't really know, like when I work with
other artists and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
We're from the hood.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
We don't really know what the ends and outs of
the contracts and all that you on me. So it's
like I would like to try to give like a
hands on like pause like.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Example, like look, it don't go like that type, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
So that was kind of me, and that just venting
a frustration like Nigga, when I signed my I barely
got anything out of chain, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But I didn't let that handle me from living my dreams.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Like it was like like motivational more so like they
get shot at anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, that's the fact.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
People think, like here you go, because we do see
these extravagant things, especially with social media.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
The look is everything, the way the game is.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
People try to make it seem like it is right right,
So they always try to make it more than what
it is.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
So nobody's giving the real story on things.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So and the titlement is a real thing, you know
what I'm saying. It's a nasty, nasty element of this.
You know that they don't they don't teach you and
bring to the table with you and and growing the
people who care about the most. It seemed like like
and it just it's tough to navigate through that when
you're trying to just keep creating and stay positive and
(05:07):
focused on this music, especially when you're in a position
where you don't really need to do it, like you
know what I'm saying, Like, man, I'll just shut it down.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Then you feel me.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I go to France and you know what I mean,
a beautiful bottle of natural wine, but you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Do it because you love it, right, Yeah, you know
it's different also because coming from the side of being
an artist is signed to being the head of a label.
Now you get to see it from both sides. So
I'm just wondering what you've learned now from having drum
work and now you're signed to yourself right and signing
other artists. So looking at it from that point of view,
(05:42):
what are some things in retrospect that you're like, Okay,
that's why that was the way that it was. When
you think about I just I think.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't know, man, like just not knowing, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Like like I said, you know what I mean, you
learn as you go, you know what I mean? When
you especially when you're trying to get into this other
side of it, like like running it, you gotta learn.
For me, I learned as I went along, you know
what I'm saying. I ain't really know nothing or understand
the language and none of that, but I read a
lot you feel me, And I read somewhere like the
(06:19):
smartest people hire people that's smarter than that, you know
what I mean. So I just trust in my team
and people out I put in place to like take
me to the promise land feel me. So that's really
what I learned the most, Like you know what I mean,
not trying to just do everything myself.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, doing everything yourself is like getting your head on
the brick wall.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's not it's it's just not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Let me ask you a question though, right I was
having a conversation in Buffalo the other day, and we
were just talking about, you know, different areas and the
differences between areas and how do you feel right about
you in your in your team being the first artist
(07:03):
to actually really break out And I'm not talking about
like Rick James and all that rapp.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Collective collective to really go national because.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Buffalo International even y'all coming from an area that that
didn't really have that that that that prominence for for
being like a rap haven where you know what I mean,
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
It's a lot of rappers that just didn't make.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It right one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I mean for me everything, like you know, I mean
a lot of to Wes and Benny and them too,
that we was able to be the ones because like
we was always rapping, you know what I'm saying, Like
since kids, like we would always find a way like
recording and like you know, a little karaoke machine with
a fake mic or you know, with the sock on
(07:52):
the mic and all that like and you know, we felt,
you know, in our opinion, into like most of the city,
like we was ill than you know what I'm saying,
Like every like, man, wait till somebody the right right,
motherfucker heroes.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Dog, we out of here. We we lit me.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So we always been chasing at and on that, but
it's like we ain't really had an access to a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Of the resources, you know what I mean. Being there
you see.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
That and there I saw.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I was like, man, they made it out of here, world,
they made it out of here, Like I really felt
that because we all have that story you're coming from
the bottom and all that, But just some places just
feel like New York is a lot more easy because
it's everywhere we stand outside as artists, movies is everything here,
but coming from there is nothing that made it out
(08:40):
of that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Nothing, bro, And and did it in a way, you
know what I'm saying, Like you know we we.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
We was already kind of older.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
We ain't have no like no no snapping pop songs
and no you know what I mean, no hulks and.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Like we just was just gun and ship down, you
fool me. And for us to take it as far
as we took it if it was the end of
the days. Man, I'm happy to what we did.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Man, you know what I'm saying. What's the fact.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you feel like because and I know you've discussed
this before, but being older and coming into this right
sometimes people act like hip hop is such a young
game and you gotta be like, yes, but there are
certain things that you may have learned and been able
to maybe avoid certain mistakes just because you've been you
got into it more mature one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I was just about to say that I was gonna say,
like for me, I was blessed with age, coming in
this with age, because like you said, I had the maturity.
I was able to have a you know that I
watched a lot of film, you know what I'm saying.
Like I said, we've been rapping and been doing it,
but we we would have got in back then, we
(09:51):
wouldn't have probably been ready for everything that come with
this shit like we was with the I was there
for like when nas Ill mat It was written, you
know what I mean, my Deep album rad I remember
skipping school and going to get Muddy Waters, and you
know what I'm saying, Like like when it was turned
into that era, like that was like ninety four ninety
(10:11):
five with Purple Tape and all that, Like you know
what I'm saying. I went through that era, the WU era,
and all that we lived through in the South was
going crazy, you know what I'm saying. And the Jezy era,
the Trap era went from the Little John shit to
the Jzu, the Trap Era TI and all the to
the you know what I mean, every era, and then
we came in you feel me, and I feel like
(10:32):
that was a blessing in disguise, like you know what
I mean, because we was we was blessed with the
journey of being more prepared, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And all those people you name, people you worked with too,
you know, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Also this it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Still blow my mind that I got reconcite everybody, I
got records with everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, like literally, I mean, you know how rare it
is to get a record with eminem but that doesn't happen,
you know. And then you have a distribution with rock
Nation that you touch some of the biggest people that
have ever done it too. So talk to me about
the rock Nation distribution deal, because that's something that's newer.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
No, it's just you know, some infrastructure for for the
you know, for my drum work powerhouse that I'm that
I'm scoping from the ground up, you know what I mean.
I got a couple of artists that I'm that I'm
I'm you know, I can.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Cuss, go ahead, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I don't know if we joint or not, and none
of that.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I'm thinking to myself the whole time that they're gonna
have to edit all type of ship out of this.
But you know, I'm working with some l cats man,
you know what I'm saying, and just you know, giving
myself that that stability I need.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You know, I'm just in a driver's seat right now.
You know what I'm saying. I'm at the table now,
feel me.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So you know, you know the partnership with rock Nation,
it was something and it was important for me too,
because you know what I man, Man Man me and
Big Bro. I fuck with Bro like that, you know
what I'm saying. So it's like it was important for
that to be a part of my story that you
know what I mean. I was able to do some
benners with the homie.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, no, for sure. And then you even mentioned Nas
and I know I never sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's who I didn't do a record with. That's the
only person I do.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But you sample him or you reference Nash and that
song on the album right because you don't see sleep
is a cousin of death. We all know that was
like super something that we all used to go by.
Now get you know, I don't got to do mornings
no more. So definitely make sure I get my rest.
But even on that song you talk about certain things
(12:36):
like it feels like to me at certain times, you
feel like the love that you give doesn't get returned necessarily.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I'm sure we all do us some points in our life. Man,
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
For me, you know, some days it's better than others.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
You know what I'm saying. You know, I don't just
make music. I don't just go in the studio on
my good days. Sometimes I'm in there on my bad days, man,
And it just translates on that beat.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And I'm very transfer parent always and my music and
stuff anyway, So you.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I wear my emotion on my sleeve in our booth,
and you know, some days it's better than.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Others, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
For some reason, we love music too.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That's more based on like when things aren't going well,
I feel like a lot of us relate to that.
When it comes to R and B, we love them
break up songs we do. And then when it comes
to hip hop, we loved like those songs when we're
not feeling it. We're all comes from an emotional space.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I love it too.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's therapeutic for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah. Yeah, Plus you know what I mean. I'm more
comfortable talking my talk in my life.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Whatever it came with in my life, it's my life,
you know what I mean. And I ain't never want
to be nobody else. So you know what I'm saying.
I can't rap nothing that ain't. You know what I'm saying.
What we embodied out there and it's time for me.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I feel like we also just threw it out there
like nas, what's up?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And you know, stopped playing?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Man, have you been trying? Like, have you reached out
or had somebody? I haven't tried, so you haven't even tried.
That's how people be sometimes too.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's like you want it, but you're not gonna Sometimes
I find this with men sometimes, Yes, to not want
to like I don't want to bother him, I don't
want to reach out, but you seem like somebody he would.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah. Yeah, for sure because we med. I met, I'm
met him a couple of times. You know what I'm saying.
He definitely gave me my flyer. This was crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I was on drink Champs and he had facetimed norire
like we're come, we're at and that was like crazy
for me, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But I never was to take I don't know, man,
I just feels like it people like me more man
when I when I don't ask for a So I
remember ray Kwan was like, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yo, lord yo, nigga saw you at the club.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Nigga, two bottles in your head, nigga, biggas chain on, Nigga,
you tell.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Mepping like this.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Man stopped playing And every time he tells stories about me,
like when he introduced me to people, that's the thing
that stick out his mind, Like I like that nigga.
Like this nigga racking like this dog And I don't
even want his mind.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He just making sure niggas was good, got weed holding
this down like like I like that, dude.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
You know what I'm saying. So for me, it's kind
of a discomfortble for nas, I just probably didn't have
the balls to go up to him.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Like nabs man, when I look like, you know, we
need to do some ship.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I mean, you know, I find that certain people who
get things done are the ones that ask. And that's it,
and that's and you the boss, you know, so sometimes
you gotta just put yourself out there like that.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I was scared. I'm just scared to ask whole too.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You are rock Nation distribution.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Shit, I still like, I like, I'm glad we I
don't want to ruin it. I know I knew it
was something. Good morning king you how you feeling by
the way you do something.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But don't take for granted the relevance that you bring too,
because I think sometimes we do that, we look at
legends and don't realize they also need, you know, because
that's what keeps the link going.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Well, of course I.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Felt like that, like I feel you know, I mean,
like you know, I'm the top guy right now, I'm
the guy you need to you know what I'm saying,
you need to highland and stuff. But I do understand,
you know, it's a you know what I mean, it's
it's a total pole man. You gotta you feel me.
You can't just reach for the top off Rep. You
gotta you know, you gotta put your work and your grind.
It happened in due time. Like so I did the record.
(16:37):
I was on the record with Ho and Jakus the
Hearder They Fall soundtrack, so you know, man, and that
was that was whole secretly like you know, putting that together.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know what I'm saying. So you know that's all
I want minds to come from work.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You feel me like, yeah, organically, I don't want to
be looked like, oh man, I'm on rock made.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Man, can I get a verse? Now? You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know, I want to ask you to what do
you think about a lot of these artists who we
know now doing podcasts and everything.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I'm about to do one.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You are, okay?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's what I was getting at. So talk to me
about that because I can see it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
No, I'm just gonna be sitting back getting stoned. And
you know what I'm saying in my in my my
nerd world, I ain't thought.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Of a name in your nerd world.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I watch a lot of like space and stuff like
how the Universe was.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I'm on some other stuff outside of that booth. You
feel me so I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I just want to sit back and smoke pot with
a couple of my friends.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You know what I mean, how you just watch some
watch some shows with me, man, Like yo, you saw this,
Look how that ship was made? You feel me?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's funny because even when I.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
See like the lot, I don't want to gave my
pilot away.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know what I'm saying, Let's edit that out.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I'm telling that there's no way we're working on side.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, it's gonna steal my content, damn.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And then listen.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I do want to ask you about this because this
was in the headlines recently about in Paris there was
they said there was a rumor that there was like
some type of fight or some drama.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So I know, I ain't hear about that. Do some
research on that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, I have research to see it. I mean
it says that there was like some type of tension
and some type of that happened at the show.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, oh no, I ain't about that. Man. Niggas just
drunk buffalo shit. That's all niggas. Niggas drunk hole run
in the green room or no, niggas. Ain't nobody fight though.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, So all of that was just over exaggerated.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We performed and all that.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, I know, I just I just got to ask
because I know it was in the headline. So I
was like, let me see.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
If I ain't gonna lie, I know it was no
headlines and all that.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm gonna show it to you just so you can
see it, so you know I'm not making it up.
It right, Benny the Butcher and Conway the Machine reported
clash in Paris, and then there was a whole thing
where people were like.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Okay, they didn't got that media takeout.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
No, I got it from all hip hop, thank you
very much.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
No, that's that's that's cat. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
All right, good, I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know, man, we drink liquor. Man were from We're
from a.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Real hug for me, you know, really family.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, it wasn't no fighting or nothing, though, you know
they probably just listening behind the curtain.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, niggas funk out there.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You know that shape because it's very exciting. Somebody got
knocked out.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Somebody got knocked out.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
But I said there was an actual physical altercation.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
They said, that's the most dramatic report and things got
separated before I got escalated further.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm so glad everybody didn't escalate that too much.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I wasn't no fighting and none of that, and nobody
get knocked out, no fighting or none of the swinging
or nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Normal a normal.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Night on uh at the at the Island store on Dolton, Genesee.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Do you have, like ever bad experiences like that? When
you are?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You like an angry person when you drink? Are you
a fun drunk person?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm fun. I'm a fun guy.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Think about it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I don't put myself in situations or places where I'm
find myself getting angry. And if I feel myself getting angry,
I know how to remove myself from that. So when
I am drinking, it's in a comfortable environment around people.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I don't really go to gloves and party and none
of that. I'm somewhere, you know what.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I mean, just with the family, were drinking, you know
what I'm saying, and laughing, talking ship gambling whatever we
do we do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know, before you came in here, man and I
were talking about our Mini Caesar, right, and we were
just wondering because yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
What happened to her now her mind, you know, she
she she a child and she's doing her things. She
got like a store, she running and stuff. She's doing
her things. She she's getting to it. She working on
her music and ship. I'm sure she she got something
about the about the debut soon.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
We always got to wrap for the females for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
You know, you know when you had that family, you
start that family that kind of superseded, you know what
I'm saying, appeasing the fans and all that, Like, man,
I'm right now, this this is my first child or whatever,
Like I'm focusing on this right now, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And she's very.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Uh like she got God in her life heavy too,
you know what I'm saying. So God and family is
probably more important to her than the studio right now.
But I know she loved that music too, and I
know she got a gang of ship that she gonna
probably drop on people real soon.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, well, I just want to make sure we ask
about her, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Now you also have a song on here, and I
feel like, you know, I always like to hear a
song for the ladies.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Coco Jones. First of all, love me some Coco Jones.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But why why Yeah, clearly I was gonna say, so
that's what made you just say randomly like Coco Jones
because you just think she's dope.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I was in the studio, I wasn't down in Denver
recording and ship.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think I was just scrolling Instagram to scroll past
her page, like as I was getting a song like
mixed Down'm like, you know, matter of.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Fact, ain't that shit Coco Jones like that?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I always feel like that's such an honor for somebody
because it's respectfully about.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Song.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Is this song out there with the title Angelie.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Be quiet? Man?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Know?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The only thing is there is some mentions of you know,
toxic digging, you know, toxic pussy and all of that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
What is toxic date?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I don't know. It's whatever. It's objectly subjective.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Had you texting calling in the morning, you don't see
my calls, you don't see my text I see you posting.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
On Instagram, but you're answering my calls.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, I just want an accountability on this side of
the room. Do you guys think that there's some toxicity
like have you would you consider yourself.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Sometimes love get toxic, you know what I mean, But
you know you will find your way through it because
of the love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So there's always some you know.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
A little bit of toxicity in every relationship, you know
what I'm saying, no matter how deep you're fucking with
each other, Like it's gonna be some type of bumping
hands and collisions or whatever feelings involved, especially when it's
especially when it's when the sex is involved in it's fire.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You you worrying about where that dick at, where you better,
where you going.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
With that home? The same thing like me, Like, man,
don't you take that too far?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You never had to crash out, like what's your worst
crash out over a woman? Need like crash never, you
never did something out of character that you were like, dang,
that's not even in my character.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Went back, double back. Yeah, I ain't the type of person.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I'm not busting your window out and all that trying
to fight the dude, I'm wishing you well like salute ship, blessed.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
See that already reveals the whole world to hurt to me,
because you can'tnot feel that, because nobody for real if
somebody moves on and you still care about them, which
is them, well right.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Away you do, I mean if exactly and we want
to things on the old way and a positive not
like I don't want I don't want us hating each other,
like I don't want you having no feelings towards me.
I don't want nothing towards you, like before I get
to that. You know what, man, let's respectfully, you know
that's what you decided you want to do be with.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Have you ever felt like it was your fault that
it happened?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Probably times out of nine.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It was account I like that I was thinking about
getting married.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Is getting married a married?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Yeah? I had a date set already.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm so because you king with that, because.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
I have a date set already, but I missed the date.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I had a date, had everything, playing, took everything, but
I just never had the girl.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
So I'm putting I'm putting the cart in front of
the horse. Okay, I just postponed it to the end
of the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm and everything.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, so I'm propping on a beautiful, beautiful talk so
on you know what I'm saying, ankle bone showing you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, that's the that's the mark of a beautiful text.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Ankle bone showing you got to.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Have an ankle bone showing a little bit Jamie Saint Patrick.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
All right, now, another song that I want to talk
about is Gratzi where it feels like you you're the
person because this is what made me think of it.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Just now.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You take the high road a lot, even when it
comes to relationships, but when it comes to friendships too,
and when it comes to business relationships. You know, you're
saying that you could have aired somebody, but I spared you.
And there's a lot of things that you hold that
you don't put out in the public that you feel like.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I feel like there's so much going on.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And I know you say you're speaking in general, you know,
but I just feel like you've been through a lot
business wise.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, and no, I ain't really been through I haven't though,
you know what I man, It just.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Business is what it was and what it is like.
That's I think what I've grown and matured to understand.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
You know what I'm saying, Like nothing was you know,
I wasn't a vantage wasn't taken. I mean, in the
business side, never wish when nobody else signed to deal
with Oh, you know what I'm saying. But but far
as that song though, like it is really it is
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really general generally speaking, you know what I mean. It
was something for the people. I'm sure everybody felt like that.
You got somebody that's just trying to like, you know,
talk like like, man, you should be humble. I destroy
you with a snap of a finger, with a tweet.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
We do live in a world where people are always
exposing each other right now. I feel like that's a fear,
you know what I'm saying, when no matter who it
is that you're dealing with, you never know if somebody maditude,
they're going to take it online.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Exactly. That's my fear too.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's why I like, you see me squabbling and I'll
get nigga at the best of me. I'm getting up,
waking up and knocking out the nigga with the phone.
Whoever got that phone gotta get it. I can't let
this get aired. I can't let this post you're trying to.
That's gonna hurt me worse than getting spanked right right whoa.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, Because every time MANI come here, I don't know
what I gotta search him.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
No online. I got to make sure that nothing happened
the night before.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, because we live in a world like that today,
you know. So let's talk about the album, right. You
can't kill God with bullets? So how long did it
take you to even finish this? Because I feel like
from what I've heard, you know these are and I
know you do it. I know you have a nice
output of work, it feels like, so just to even
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put it together to make one album, like and knowing
like it's it's pretty lengthy. Yeah, you know it's not
one of those EPs because everybody's doing EPs now.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It's not twenty minutes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So for you, what was the process and how long
did it take for you to get this done?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I mean, I'm still putting the final little tweaks on it,
so I'm still working on it.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
But I've been working on it since, I.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Want to say about it, almost a year now. I
think I started the first song on that shit I did.
It was I think in like October.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
What was the first song you did?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I think it was seventeen five? Okay, yeah, I think
seventeen five was the first song I.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Had to ask, man, no, what is seventeen five? Yeah,
that's not for you to know.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, what I met with see with me, it was
like when I did the song, you know what I'm saying,
Like it was like, like I said, my first song,
and then I hadn't really put out no album, like
a year and a half two, it's been a minute
since I even been and I just been going through
so much too, like behind the curtain, and so when
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I did the song, that's how I just start chating that.
I just feel like, man, the verse like that, that
first verse, that's all I had at the time.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It was like this a break, I'm just seventeen Like
I'm back, shits seventeen five again.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Like it was really like a metaphor for me, like
I'm back, and you know what I mean, the dope
back cheap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But I don't sell dope.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, I know the dope. The music, Yeah, we know.
Is there a tour plan.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yes, we're going on We're going on the road in November.
I hadn't named the tour yet, but we're going on
the road. We got about well like fifteen cities or
something like that. Short little tour and then we're going
back overseas.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, and how's the whole family and everything?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
My family, yeah, Oh, my family's good. My family good,
family happy. You know what I'm saying. No more can goods.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You know what I'm saying, no more, no more uh
frozen pizzas and ship out the more fucking you know
what I'm saying, We go, we go get the whole
cow or the lamb chops, Like, let me get a
half a cow, a half a cow.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Let me get the lamb chops and the red bies.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now can you cook?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
No? I can't cook?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
All right? That could be the next chapter on Lite.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Actually it is. I ain't gonna lie. I wanna. I
want to. That's my next hobby when I'm done with
this raption.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I want to be able to prepare a steak like
Peter Luga somewhere like in the kitchen, like I really
envy a great chef, like damn, how you made that?
Like a pretty plate, like a fly plate, like damn,
I can make that.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I'll be on the next level.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
That next level the podcast could be.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
You know, that's a brilliant idea. Write that down for me.
I'm glad I thought of it just.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
And then when you do that steak you got to
bring Benny the Butcher on.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Benny the Butcher chopped the steak up for your role,
for your Ephron and your gloves. Man, you know what
I'm saying, cut me down.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Well, listen, I appreciate you so much for coming through.
I'm excited that you were able to come here talk
about the new album. Like I said, i've been I
just got it this morning, and I know it's not
completely completely Dombe, but I already told you I have
my favorites on there already, so so congratulations on that.
Y'all know me being like a from when you first
signed to you know, Shady and all of that, me
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having that affiliation immediately they were like, you gotta see that.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
You got to hear these guys. So I've been following
you since then.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So that's dope.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's great to see.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Thank you for the love and support over the years
always and you know we locked in, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
All right, all right,
What's up its way up at Angela.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Ye, of course, my guy Mano is rocking with me
and we got a super special guest, Conway the Machine
is here with us.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
How you feeling today good?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm good. I'm feeling blessed.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I so you were in Bogota, Colombia. See shoot in
the video? How was that?
Speaker 4 (00:20):
That was amazing? Colombia is beautiful, Boga Tar is beautiful.
We shot an il video custom some God footage out there.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Ate some God food. You know what, man? It was love.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
They were going crazy from the footage I saw too.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It was crazy.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Paul music right, get you, get you out of your
your your immediate element, and put you in places you
never dreamed of.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Facts and Griselda is definitely it's like a full circle with.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Griselda, Colombia all of that.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, that is I think about that, think
about that when I was out there, I thought that
is right right.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So talk to me, man, you got a lot going
on right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Obviously the new single, so that means there's a new
album on the way now. I know we're not supposed
to talk about dates yet, but how is that going?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's going good. I'm running out the brinks of a completion.
So it's going, well, you know what I mean, it's
called on you Can't Kill God with Bullets. Like you said,
I don't really know the date yet, but we're about
to drop down in the next the next few few weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
That feels personal, that title.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
With bullets. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
It feels like really overcoming some things.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, I know, because I know coming up with the
album title is a process, right Yeah, so talk to
me about why that title you Can't Kill God with Bullets.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, I was just, you know what I mean, really
a playoff for like, you know, I got shot in
the head twice, so it was really a playoff for that.
And just I mean, like you know, they can't kill me, man,
they just reveiled me. I'm my full potential right now.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You know. It's belt the ass season.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That gave me trauma from my childhood. Used to get
beating every day over very small things. And I do
shut up, and I do want to say that we
got a preview of the album. I already could tell
you the standout song to me that I love is Dreams.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Yeah, I want to.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
That's a really special song.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And so I just want to talk about some of
the topics that you had on dreams, even how you started.
You started off it just feels very positive. You woke
up feeling like you test the sky thinking about all
the things that you overcome that you could never think
about in your in your wildest dreams. But then you
also talk about things that happened in the past, like
signing a deal, and people think when you sign a deal,
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like life is good after that.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, it's all great.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Can you flash back to that time because you've been
rapping for so long since you were a teenager, and
then when you sign a deal, you think things are
gonna automatically be like people think you automatically have money.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, well you know that's that's you know, most most DALs.
And you know when you any any business or whatever
you get into, like it ain't probably gonna at least
not immediately gonna be like what you what you think
or what you thought like, you know, it ain't overnight,
you know what I'm saying. Sometimes it takes a little
a little grind, you know what I'm saying for it
(03:25):
to reach that point of where you feel you're getting
a return on your involvement. You know what I'm saying,
but you know what I mean in that line and
like in that song, like I was just really like
using that as a like.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I called it like I was. I was on my
Coach Prime on my Coach Prime Wave, like in.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
The locker room at halftime, like you know what I'm saying,
because I always just I always line it up as
like we don't really know, like when I work with
other artists and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
We're from the hood.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
We don't really know what the ends and outs of
the contracts and all that you on me. So it's
like I would like to try to give like a
hands on like pause like.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Example, like look, it don't go like that type, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
So that was kind of me, and that just venting
a frustration like Nigga, when I signed my I barely
got anything out of chain, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But I didn't let that handle me from living my dreams.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Like it was like like motivational more so like they
get shot at anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, that's the fact.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
People think, like here you go, because we do see
these extravagant things, especially with social media.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
The look is everything, the way the game is.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
People try to make it seem like it is right right,
So they always try to make it more than what
it is.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
So nobody's giving the real story on things.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So and the titlement is a real thing, you know
what I'm saying. It's a nasty, nasty element of this.
You know that they don't they don't teach you and
bring to the table with you and and growing the
people who care about the most. It seemed like like
and it just it's tough to navigate through that when
you're trying to just keep creating and stay positive and
(05:07):
focused on this music, especially when you're in a position
where you don't really need to do it, like you
know what I'm saying, Like, man, I'll just shut it down.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Then you feel me.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I go to France and you know what I mean,
a beautiful bottle of natural wine, but you.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Do it because you love it, right, Yeah, you know
it's different also because coming from the side of being
an artist is signed to being the head of a label.
Now you get to see it from both sides. So
I'm just wondering what you've learned now from having drum
work and now you're signed to yourself right and signing
other artists. So looking at it from that point of view,
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what are some things in retrospect that you're like, Okay,
that's why that was the way that it was. When
you think about I just I think.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I don't know, man, like just not knowing, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Like like I said, you know what I mean, you
learn as you go, you know what I mean? When
you especially when you're trying to get into this other
side of it, like like running it, you gotta learn.
For me, I learned as I went along, you know
what I'm saying. I ain't really know nothing or understand
the language and none of that, but I read a
lot you feel me, And I read somewhere like the
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smartest people hire people that's smarter than that, you know
what I mean. So I just trust in my team
and people out I put in place to like take
me to the promise land feel me. So that's really
what I learned the most, Like you know what I mean,
not trying to just do everything myself.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, doing everything yourself is like getting your head on
the brick wall.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It's not it's it's just not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Let me ask you a question though, right I was
having a conversation in Buffalo the other day, and we
were just talking about, you know, different areas and the
differences between areas and how do you feel right about
you in your in your team being the first artist
(07:03):
to actually really break out And I'm not talking about
like Rick James and all that rapp.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Collective collective to really go national because.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
Buffalo International even y'all coming from an area that that
didn't really have that that that that prominence for for
being like a rap haven where you know what I mean,
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
It's a lot of rappers that just didn't make.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
It right one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I mean for me everything, like you know, I mean
a lot of to Wes and Benny and them too,
that we was able to be the ones because like
we was always rapping, you know what I'm saying, Like
since kids, like we would always find a way like
recording and like you know, a little karaoke machine with
a fake mic or you know, with the sock on
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the mic and all that like and you know, we felt,
you know, in our opinion, into like most of the city,
like we was ill than you know what I'm saying,
Like every like, man, wait till somebody the right right,
motherfucker heroes.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Dog, we out of here. We we lit me.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So we always been chasing at and on that, but
it's like we ain't really had an access to a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Of the resources, you know what I mean. Being there
you see.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
That and there I saw.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I was like, man, they made it out of here, world,
they made it out of here, Like I really felt
that because we all have that story you're coming from
the bottom and all that, But just some places just
feel like New York is a lot more easy because
it's everywhere we stand outside as artists, movies is everything here,
but coming from there is nothing that made it out
(08:40):
of that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Nothing, bro, And and did it in a way, you
know what I'm saying, Like you know we we.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
We was already kind of older.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
We ain't have no like no no snapping pop songs
and no you know what I mean, no hulks and.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
All of that.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Like we just was just gun and ship down, you
fool me. And for us to take it as far
as we took it if it was the end of
the days. Man, I'm happy to what we did.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Man, you know what I'm saying. What's the fact.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Do you feel like because and I know you've discussed
this before, but being older and coming into this right
sometimes people act like hip hop is such a young
game and you gotta be like, yes, but there are
certain things that you may have learned and been able
to maybe avoid certain mistakes just because you've been you
got into it more mature one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I was just about to say that I was gonna say,
like for me, I was blessed with age, coming in
this with age, because like you said, I had the maturity.
I was able to have a you know that I
watched a lot of film, you know what I'm saying.
Like I said, we've been rapping and been doing it,
but we we would have got in back then, we
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wouldn't have probably been ready for everything that come with
this shit like we was with the I was there
for like when nas Ill mat It was written, you
know what I mean, my Deep album rad I remember
skipping school and going to get Muddy Waters, and you
know what I'm saying, Like like when it was turned
into that era, like that was like ninety four ninety
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five with Purple Tape and all that, Like you know
what I'm saying. I went through that era, the WU era,
and all that we lived through in the South was
going crazy, you know what I'm saying. And the Jezy era,
the Trap era went from the Little John shit to
the Jzu, the Trap Era TI and all the to
the you know what I mean, every era, and then
we came in you feel me, and I feel like
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that was a blessing in disguise, like you know what
I mean, because we was we was blessed with the
journey of being more prepared, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And all those people you name, people you worked with too,
you know, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Also this it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Still blow my mind that I got reconcite everybody, I
got records with everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, like literally, I mean, you know how rare it
is to get a record with eminem but that doesn't happen,
you know. And then you have a distribution with rock
Nation that you touch some of the biggest people that
have ever done it too. So talk to me about
the rock Nation distribution deal, because that's something that's newer.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
No, it's just you know, some infrastructure for for the
you know, for my drum work powerhouse that I'm that
I'm scoping from the ground up, you know what I mean.
I got a couple of artists that I'm that I'm
I'm you know, I can.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Cuss, go ahead, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I don't know if we joint or not, and none
of that.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I'm thinking to myself the whole time that they're gonna
have to edit all type of ship out of this.
But you know, I'm working with some l cats man,
you know what I'm saying, and just you know, giving
myself that that stability I need.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You know, I'm just in a driver's seat right now.
You know what I'm saying. I'm at the table now,
feel me.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So you know, you know the partnership with rock Nation,
it was something and it was important for me too,
because you know what I man, Man Man me and
Big Bro. I fuck with Bro like that, you know
what I'm saying. So it's like it was important for
that to be a part of my story that you
know what I mean. I was able to do some
benners with the homie.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, no, for sure. And then you even mentioned Nas
and I know I never sleep.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's who I didn't do a record with. That's the
only person I do.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
But you sample him or you reference Nash and that
song on the album right because you don't see sleep
is a cousin of death. We all know that was
like super something that we all used to go by.
Now get you know, I don't got to do mornings
no more. So definitely make sure I get my rest.
But even on that song you talk about certain things
(12:36):
like it feels like to me at certain times, you
feel like the love that you give doesn't get returned necessarily.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I'm sure we all do us some points in our life. Man,
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
For me, you know, some days it's better than others.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
You know what I'm saying. You know, I don't just
make music. I don't just go in the studio on
my good days. Sometimes I'm in there on my bad days, man,
And it just translates on that beat.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And I'm very transfer parent always and my music and
stuff anyway, So you.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I wear my emotion on my sleeve in our booth,
and you know, some days it's better than.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Others, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
For some reason, we love music too.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That's more based on like when things aren't going well,
I feel like a lot of us relate to that.
When it comes to R and B, we love them
break up songs we do. And then when it comes
to hip hop, we loved like those songs when we're
not feeling it. We're all comes from an emotional space.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I love it too.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It's therapeutic for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah. Yeah, Plus you know what I mean. I'm more
comfortable talking my talk in my life.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Whatever it came with in my life, it's my life,
you know what I mean. And I ain't never want
to be nobody else. So you know what I'm saying.
I can't rap nothing that ain't. You know what I'm saying.
What we embodied out there and it's time for me.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I feel like we also just threw it out there
like nas, what's up?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And you know, stopped playing?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Man, have you been trying? Like, have you reached out
or had somebody? I haven't tried, so you haven't even tried.
That's how people be sometimes too.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's like you want it, but you're not gonna Sometimes
I find this with men sometimes, Yes, to not want
to like I don't want to bother him, I don't
want to reach out, but you seem like somebody he would.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah. Yeah, for sure because we med. I met, I'm
met him a couple of times. You know what I'm saying.
He definitely gave me my flyer. This was crazy.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I was on drink Champs and he had facetimed norire
like we're come, we're at and that was like crazy
for me, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
But I never was to take I don't know, man,
I just feels like it people like me more man
when I when I don't ask for a So I
remember ray Kwan was like, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yo, lord yo, nigga saw you at the club.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Nigga, two bottles in your head, nigga, biggas chain on, Nigga,
you tell.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Mepping like this.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Man stopped playing And every time he tells stories about me,
like when he introduced me to people, that's the thing
that stick out his mind, Like I like that nigga.
Like this nigga racking like this dog And I don't
even want his mind.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He just making sure niggas was good, got weed holding
this down like like I like that, dude.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
You know what I'm saying. So for me, it's kind
of a discomfortble for nas, I just probably didn't have
the balls to go up to him.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Like nabs man, when I look like, you know, we
need to do some ship.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I mean, you know, I find that certain people who
get things done are the ones that ask. And that's it,
and that's and you the boss, you know, so sometimes
you gotta just put yourself out there like that.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I was scared. I'm just scared to ask whole too.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
You are rock Nation distribution.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Shit, I still like, I like, I'm glad we I
don't want to ruin it. I know I knew it
was something. Good morning king you how you feeling by
the way you do something.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But don't take for granted the relevance that you bring too,
because I think sometimes we do that, we look at
legends and don't realize they also need, you know, because
that's what keeps the link going.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Well, of course I.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Felt like that, like I feel you know, I mean,
like you know, I'm the top guy right now, I'm
the guy you need to you know what I'm saying,
you need to highland and stuff. But I do understand,
you know, it's a you know what I mean, it's
it's a total pole man. You gotta you feel me.
You can't just reach for the top off Rep. You
gotta you know, you gotta put your work and your grind.
It happened in due time. Like so I did the record.
(16:37):
I was on the record with Ho and Jakus the
Hearder They Fall soundtrack, so you know, man, and that
was that was whole secretly like you know, putting that together.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know what I'm saying. So you know that's all
I want minds to come from work.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
You feel me like, yeah, organically, I don't want to
be looked like, oh man, I'm on rock made.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Man, can I get a verse? Now? You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know, I want to ask you to what do
you think about a lot of these artists who we
know now doing podcasts and everything.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I'm about to do one.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You are, okay?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I was.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That's what I was getting at. So talk to me
about that because I can see it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
No, I'm just gonna be sitting back getting stoned. And
you know what I'm saying in my in my my
nerd world, I ain't thought.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Of a name in your nerd world.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I watch a lot of like space and stuff like
how the Universe was.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
I'm on some other stuff outside of that booth. You
feel me so I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I just want to sit back and smoke pot with
a couple of my friends.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
You know what I mean, how you just watch some
watch some shows with me, man, Like yo, you saw this,
Look how that ship was made? You feel me?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's funny because even when I.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
See like the lot, I don't want to gave my
pilot away.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know what I'm saying, Let's edit that out.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I'm telling that there's no way we're working on side.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, it's gonna steal my content, damn.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And then listen.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I do want to ask you about this because this
was in the headlines recently about in Paris there was
they said there was a rumor that there was like
some type of fight or some drama.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So I know, I ain't hear about that. Do some
research on that.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean, I have research to see it. I mean
it says that there was like some type of tension
and some type of that happened at the show.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, oh no, I ain't about that. Man. Niggas just
drunk buffalo shit. That's all niggas. Niggas drunk hole run
in the green room or no, niggas. Ain't nobody fight though.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, So all of that was just over exaggerated.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We performed and all that.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah, I know, I just I just got to ask
because I know it was in the headline. So I
was like, let me see.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
If I ain't gonna lie, I know it was no
headlines and all that.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm gonna show it to you just so you can
see it, so you know I'm not making it up.
It right, Benny the Butcher and Conway the Machine reported
clash in Paris, and then there was a whole thing
where people were like.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Okay, they didn't got that media takeout.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
No, I got it from all hip hop, thank you
very much.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
No, that's that's that's cat. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
All right, good, I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know, man, we drink liquor. Man were from We're
from a.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Real hug for me, you know, really family.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, it wasn't no fighting or nothing, though, you know
they probably just listening behind the curtain.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, niggas funk out there.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
You know that shape because it's very exciting. Somebody got
knocked out.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Somebody got knocked out.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
But I said there was an actual physical altercation.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
They said, that's the most dramatic report and things got
separated before I got escalated further.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I'm so glad everybody didn't escalate that too much.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I wasn't no fighting and none of that, and nobody
get knocked out, no fighting or none of the swinging
or nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Normal a normal.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Night on uh at the at the Island store on Dolton, Genesee.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Do you have, like ever bad experiences like that? When
you are?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You like an angry person when you drink? Are you
a fun drunk person?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I'm fun. I'm a fun guy.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Think about it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
I don't put myself in situations or places where I'm
find myself getting angry. And if I feel myself getting angry,
I know how to remove myself from that. So when
I am drinking, it's in a comfortable environment around people.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I don't really go to gloves and party and none
of that. I'm somewhere, you know what.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I mean, just with the family, were drinking, you know
what I'm saying, and laughing, talking ship gambling whatever we
do we do, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
You know, before you came in here, man and I
were talking about our Mini Caesar, right, and we were
just wondering because yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
What happened to her now her mind, you know, she
she she a child and she's doing her things. She
got like a store, she running and stuff. She's doing
her things. She she's getting to it. She working on
her music and ship. I'm sure she she got something
about the about the debut soon.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
We always got to wrap for the females for sure.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
You know, you know when you had that family, you
start that family that kind of superseded, you know what
I'm saying, appeasing the fans and all that, Like, man,
I'm right now, this this is my first child or whatever,
Like I'm focusing on this right now, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
And she's very.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Uh like she got God in her life heavy too,
you know what I'm saying. So God and family is
probably more important to her than the studio right now.
But I know she loved that music too, and I
know she got a gang of ship that she gonna
probably drop on people real soon.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, well, I just want to make sure we ask
about her, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Now you also have a song on here, and I
feel like, you know, I always like to hear a
song for the ladies.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Coco Jones. First of all, love me some Coco Jones.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But why why Yeah, clearly I was gonna say, so
that's what made you just say randomly like Coco Jones
because you just think she's dope.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I was in the studio, I wasn't down in Denver
recording and ship.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think I was just scrolling Instagram to scroll past
her page, like as I was getting a song like
mixed Down'm like, you know, matter of.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Fact, ain't that shit Coco Jones like that?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I always feel like that's such an honor for somebody
because it's respectfully about.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Song.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Is this song out there with the title Angelie.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Be quiet? Man?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Know?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
The only thing is there is some mentions of you know,
toxic digging, you know, toxic pussy and all of that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
What is toxic date?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I don't know. It's whatever. It's objectly subjective.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Had you texting calling in the morning, you don't see
my calls, you don't see my text I see you posting.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
On Instagram, but you're answering my calls.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, I just want an accountability on this side of
the room. Do you guys think that there's some toxicity
like have you would you consider yourself.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Sometimes love get toxic, you know what I mean, But
you know you will find your way through it because
of the love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So there's always some you know.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
A little bit of toxicity in every relationship, you know
what I'm saying, no matter how deep you're fucking with
each other, Like it's gonna be some type of bumping
hands and collisions or whatever feelings involved, especially when it's
especially when it's when the sex is involved in it's fire.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You feel me.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You you worrying about where that dick at, where you better,
where you going.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
With that home? The same thing like me, Like, man,
don't you take that too far?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You never had to crash out, like what's your worst
crash out over a woman? Need like crash never, you
never did something out of character that you were like, dang,
that's not even in my character.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Went back, double back. Yeah, I ain't the type of person.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
I'm not busting your window out and all that trying
to fight the dude, I'm wishing you well like salute ship, blessed.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
See that already reveals the whole world to hurt to me,
because you can'tnot feel that, because nobody for real if
somebody moves on and you still care about them, which
is them, well right.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Away you do, I mean if exactly and we want
to things on the old way and a positive not
like I don't want I don't want us hating each other,
like I don't want you having no feelings towards me.
I don't want nothing towards you, like before I get
to that. You know what, man, let's respectfully, you know
that's what you decided you want to do be with.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Have you ever felt like it was your fault that
it happened?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Probably times out of nine.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It was account I like that I was thinking about
getting married.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Is getting married a married?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Yeah? I had a date set already.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I'm so because you king with that, because.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
I have a date set already, but I missed the date.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I had a date, had everything, playing, took everything, but
I just never had the girl.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
So I'm putting I'm putting the cart in front of
the horse. Okay, I just postponed it to the end
of the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I'm and everything.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Yeah, so I'm propping on a beautiful, beautiful talk so
on you know what I'm saying, ankle bone showing you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, that's the that's the mark of a beautiful text.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Ankle bone showing you got to.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Have an ankle bone showing a little bit Jamie Saint Patrick.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
All right, now, another song that I want to talk
about is Gratzi where it feels like you you're the
person because this is what made me think of it.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Just now.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
You take the high road a lot, even when it
comes to relationships, but when it comes to friendships too,
and when it comes to business relationships. You know, you're
saying that you could have aired somebody, but I spared you.
And there's a lot of things that you hold that
you don't put out in the public that you feel like.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I feel like there's so much going on.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
And I know you say you're speaking in general, you know,
but I just feel like you've been through a lot
business wise.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah, and no, I ain't really been through I haven't though,
you know what I man, It just.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Business is what it was and what it is like.
That's I think what I've grown and matured to understand.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
You know what I'm saying, Like nothing was you know,
I wasn't a vantage wasn't taken. I mean, in the
business side, never wish when nobody else signed to deal
with Oh, you know what I'm saying. But but far
as that song though, like it is really it is
(27:30):
really general generally speaking, you know what I mean. It
was something for the people. I'm sure everybody felt like that.
You got somebody that's just trying to like, you know,
talk like like, man, you should be humble. I destroy
you with a snap of a finger, with a tweet.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
We do live in a world where people are always
exposing each other right now. I feel like that's a fear,
you know what I'm saying, when no matter who it
is that you're dealing with, you never know if somebody maditude,
they're going to take it online.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Exactly. That's my fear too.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That's why I like, you see me squabbling and I'll
get nigga at the best of me. I'm getting up,
waking up and knocking out the nigga with the phone.
Whoever got that phone gotta get it. I can't let
this get aired. I can't let this post you're trying to.
That's gonna hurt me worse than getting spanked right right whoa.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, Because every time MANI come here, I don't know
what I gotta search him.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
No online. I got to make sure that nothing happened
the night before.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Beautiful.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, because we live in a world like that today,
you know. So let's talk about the album, right. You
can't kill God with bullets? So how long did it
take you to even finish this? Because I feel like
from what I've heard, you know these are and I
know you do it. I know you have a nice
output of work, it feels like, so just to even
(28:55):
put it together to make one album, like and knowing
like it's it's pretty lengthy. Yeah, you know it's not
one of those EPs because everybody's doing EPs now.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It's not twenty minutes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So for you, what was the process and how long
did it take for you to get this done?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I mean, I'm still putting the final little tweaks on it,
so I'm still working on it.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
But I've been working on it since, I.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Want to say about it, almost a year now. I
think I started the first song on that shit I did.
It was I think in like October.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
What was the first song you did?
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I think it was seventeen five? Okay, yeah, I think
seventeen five was the first song I.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Had to ask, man, no, what is seventeen five? Yeah,
that's not for you to know.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, what I met with see with me, it was
like when I did the song, you know what I'm saying,
Like it was like, like I said, my first song,
and then I hadn't really put out no album, like
a year and a half two, it's been a minute
since I even been and I just been going through
so much too, like behind the curtain, and so when
(29:58):
I did the song, that's how I just start chating that.
I just feel like, man, the verse like that, that
first verse, that's all I had at the time.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It was like this a break, I'm just seventeen Like
I'm back, shits seventeen five again.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Like it was really like a metaphor for me, like
I'm back, and you know what I mean, the dope
back cheap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
But I don't sell dope.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, I know the dope. The music, Yeah, we know.
Is there a tour plan.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yes, we're going on We're going on the road in November.
I hadn't named the tour yet, but we're going on
the road. We got about well like fifteen cities or
something like that. Short little tour and then we're going
back overseas.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, and how's the whole family and everything?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
My family, yeah, Oh, my family's good. My family good,
family happy. You know what I'm saying. No more can goods.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You know what I'm saying, no more, no more uh
frozen pizzas and ship out the more fucking you know
what I'm saying, We go, we go get the whole
cow or the lamb chops, Like, let me get a
half a cow, a half a cow.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Let me get the lamb chops and the red bies.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now can you cook?
Speaker 3 (31:14):
No? I can't cook?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
All right? That could be the next chapter on Lite.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Actually it is. I ain't gonna lie. I wanna. I
want to. That's my next hobby when I'm done with
this raption.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
I want to be able to prepare a steak like
Peter Luga somewhere like in the kitchen, like I really
envy a great chef, like damn, how you made that?
Like a pretty plate, like a fly plate, like damn,
I can make that.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I'll be on the next level.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
That next level the podcast could be.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
You know, that's a brilliant idea. Write that down for me.
I'm glad I thought of it just.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
And then when you do that steak you got to
bring Benny the Butcher on.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Benny the Butcher chopped the steak up for your role,
for your Ephron and your gloves. Man, you know what
I'm saying, cut me down.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Well, listen, I appreciate you so much for coming through.
I'm excited that you were able to come here talk
about the new album. Like I said, i've been I
just got it this morning, and I know it's not
completely completely Dombe, but I already told you I have
my favorites on there already, so so congratulations on that.
Y'all know me being like a from when you first
signed to you know, Shady and all of that, me
(32:28):
having that affiliation immediately they were like, you gotta see that.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
You got to hear these guys. So I've been following
you since then.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So that's dope.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's great to see.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Thank you for the love and support over the years
always and you know we locked in, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
All right, all right,
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!