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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up Its way up with Angela Yee and Maino's
here and let's rap about it because Jave East is here.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
A well, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You got to be feeling good with Karma for people
are saying this is your best work to date.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yes, I feel amazing, long time coming, finally independent, so yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
It feel good.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Oh wow, finally independent.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
That's a big deal. Yeah, that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ten years and financially that's a big deal too, right all.
Speaker 6 (00:30):
The way and even creatively though, just the freedom to
do what you want to do. Yeah, you like a
you like a real real worker, like you're a studio
junkie like you might. You might put out like eight
projects a year if I could.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I would, you know, Yeah, you do work hard.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You have a lot of collapse, Like when I tell you,
I'd be like, dang, he's got another collab project coming.
Was that purposeful because of getting out of your deal
or what.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Was the So the one with Ransom that was kind
of random, the one with young Chris and you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Had jay Elec Chronica on that Ransom one that's amazing
to jail let.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But the one where Chris me and Chris was working
on that for maybe like two years just off and
on here come up from Philly. I'll go down there.
So once we finally had we was going to just
do six joints. So I'm like, let's do two or
three more on the put it out instead of sitting
on that music. I got so much music I was
just sitting on and it don't it don't make sense
to just be sitting on that music.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I didn't realize it was ten years. I met you
super early on early in your career, like.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
That was probably twenty fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, we had you in the hot seat early early,
and now you got yourself in the hot seat. But yeah,
so that has to feel good with what has changed
though for you because like you said, it's been ten
years now, karma for it. You're independent, able to do
this not having to be It was death jam.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, it was massive pilled in death jam, right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Master appealing death jam. So like what is different about
doing it on your own?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Just the freedom to do it how I want to
do it, from the videos to the actual music I'm making,
to the producers I want to work with, all of
that is like how I.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Want to do it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I don't have the outside distractions or people trying to
tell me you need this kind of song, you need
to cater to these this crowd, or that I just
want to.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Do it how I want to do.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
What would people say you needed to cater to I'm curious, like,
what would a label person be like.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's more just commercially driven music.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
They want to hear, you know what I mean, stuff
for the radio stuff, you know what I mean, that
type of music like and which I have no problem
making that kind of music, but I'm not going to
give you a whole album of just that.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
So they want stuff that they could sell, traditional radio hits.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I could tell people really really mess with you personally
just from the list of heavy hitters on this album,
you know, because it felt like that, and you managed
to do a lot of different things, storytelling things for
the ladies. It's called Karma for you started it off
with Pain and the Ass basically.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Big shout for pain.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I just where did I just see him the other
day and I hadn't seen him in so long?
Speaker 5 (03:06):
My god, you went into him every now and then.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's that's how you got on the album. In
the studio, I used the bathroom. I go out the booth.
I'm walking to the bathroom. He right there and he's
talking with somebody. I'm like, nah, you gotta come in
the booth doing this, And I already had it in
my mind, like how I.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Wanted him to do it. Shouts the pain.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was fire and Manos on the album of course.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
First time finally made. You don't like mine?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Talking about like okay now and I do enjoy this song.
What we're talking.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You said some things on there, Mano that makes me
feel like you don't want to get married.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
For you say that my husband material girls.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay, you said this, sleep and play with her kids.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Hey, right, but that's that's what you're supposed to do
a lot.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Have time for the kids. Don't forget out the kids.
You come to that lady house some respect. I have
some respect. You understand what I'm saying. Have some respect.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's a good that's a guy.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
And she tired. She's tired.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
She been up with them kids for days.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
That man ain't been over there. I put out a
sleep and then I go play with them kids.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You know it would be a good wedding sign for you, though.
Stand on that stand on that.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Oh yeah, that's joint.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, now that's a good wedding, like, because that's what
you need, right, somebody that's gonna make you feel different,
something that's like a feeling you've never had before, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And so I think maybe that's what you're searching for.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That's the that's the that's the you're talking to me. Yeah, good,
that's what you're walking out to.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I felt like Dave's good listen because has three girls.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's the player. Davies has three girls.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
You know what three girls will do to you as
as a man.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
This is my dog, and I understand.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
But when I'm saying, we gonna make it happen.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Right, what he said, We're gonna make it happen.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
So I like that when it's time, because you know,
I am getting married, I'm going to announce the date again.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm coming to the.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Time.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Stop playing what she just said. Karma eight will be
up by the time now. But he worked fast.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah three.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Your rolloute, I like.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
I like your rollout though.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
So we live in a time where it's like people
you know, don't really pay so much attention because there's
so many things going on. You can get lost in
the shuffle. You gotta you got a strong roll out,
Like I see you doing a lot of different press.
I see you doing different press on different formats. How
you pull all that together though, because that's important.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Honestly, my team, you know what I mean, Like big
shout out to my team and just them connecting with
all those different platforms that wanted to help me promote
the album. But I think it was dope because it
was independent, so it really wasn't no labeling, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
That's what makes me feel good about it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah, Like I saw you with Maury Povich on his
podcast I.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Did talked about it.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Was like you got my guy, Davi's.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
More, my dog.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Cool man came up here, Like what more is coming?
I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
It's crazy, legendary to my mom's what I was hearing
that in the crib you are not the.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Bring out the olives. He used the violence very different,
but not that I mean that.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
That is a great feeling.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You also, are you going to produce like for other
people and do full.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I could get busy now ye, Like I just feel
like everything like as far as me working with different artists,
having my own artists. All of that is, I feel
I'm in this space to do that now. I feel
like I've been in it long enough. I'm always do
what I do, but I want to start reaching back
and just I mean it's doing a little different stuff
with different allis that have been locked in with me
(07:12):
for a minute, you know, and this is the perfect time.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I feel like you always also have had like
a good crew of people around you too. And one
thing about Dave East is when people meet you, they'd
be like, he was super cool.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well I don't. I don't seem like I'm cool.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
No, I'm just saying people say that, and sometimes you
never know what it's gonna they said about you too, man,
Oh yes they because sometimes when you meet a celebrity,
people could be intimidated. They could be like, you know,
they don't know if you're gonna act funny. But one
thing I've always heard people say, like, guess w what
I'm at? He was cool, you know, And because you
also have the look of like.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Maybe I get that like you look mean, I always
get that, like yo, you look like you don't want
to speak to nobody or you I mean like that
might just be my my face.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I don't know, that might be a smoking face too,
Like if I'm high, I.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Might really just be in my own world.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But nah, I feel like I've always been mad, humble
with whoever, like with everybody that I've crossed path with
in this game.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
You know what I mean when it comes to being
in the studio, because like you said, you have so
much content, so many things. You could put out so
many albums. You know, what is your process like when
you're in the studio? Like, yeah, like what like set
the tone for us? When you have a studio session?
What happens?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
They switch up? Sometimes it might be a whole bunch
of people. Sometimes it might just be be an engineer.
Definitely some weed, Definitely some champagne.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Uh yeah, we took a weed break.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Yeah, what what do you mean? Break?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Like a break from smoking?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
And really I have what was the longest like during
like the longest I've taken a break from bud maybe.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
A week.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
A month.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I can't not that long.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Too many too much be happening, like like you just said,
everybody say, I'm cool.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
The weed helps that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Me being at a certain you know what I mean,
just level it levels me out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
But definitely some weed.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Uh, champagne. You like champagne.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I know I can't do champagne.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I'm not a Champagne because I can't do liquor every
day hard liquor lick.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Me and man, no, don't really drink like that, so
we can't. I'm kidding.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
That drink.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I don't drink at all.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Drink.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You also had a release party at Kasubi. Is that
how you said?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Because yeah, that shouts to them too. I met the owner.
All of that was crazy. We shut so down.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
How did that even happen? How does how do things
like that come about? Because that's a brand that a
lot of people wearing.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Big shout out to Julie. Julie put that together.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
She on my team, She connected with them, and they
was fans of what I already was doing.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So that was fire.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Like I didn't even expect that turn out to be
that way, but it just showed me, like my work
out and put in, especially in the city, like the
love they showed me that night was like, all right,
bet pact, whole black, the police ain't barbers and none
of that.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It was love.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
You're kind of like aside from being an artist and
an actor, will get into all of that. You're a
lightweight of social life too, and not in a bad way,
but you like he hasn't what that means. People come
out for you. But it's also like random people like
do you ever find yourself like, damn, it's random that
I'm cool with this peron.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah all the time. But you know
what I think it is.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I think just the world we in everything is starting
to blend from sports to fashion into the music.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
So I'll be cool with people in the fashion world.
I'll be cool with.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
People play baseball, play football, basketball, like you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I think I go and I support a lot, so
I'm out at the games.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I'm out at the you know what I mean. So
I feel like when it came back, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And then you also have the podcast. Now let's rap about.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
It with the guys.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
This man with the guys.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I told I got to give y'all some like topics
that women want to have a dress.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, no, I'm saying, when.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Are you'll filming again, I'm gonna say, Okay, I got
y'all and they're gonna be like blind topics. So you so,
and I have been telling Mano because I think, you know,
people are very interested when when you guys all get
together and have these conversations and there's a level of
comfort in being able to like open up amongst.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
People that you really got relationship.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
With, Yeah, that you really have.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I think that comes across you know.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
I'm not a heavy comment guy, but I was reading
some of the comments and I think with that is
that it shows even with us, and you can just tell.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Like it's a real relationship there.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
The chemistry is different when you really you know, funck
with a person for lack of better terms, and then
you can really see it because then I'm not afraid
to tell you certain things that that I'm going through,
you know what I mean, And especially in the rap game,
because we all kind of got the same experience. It's
up and down, he's bumps and bruises, we all scored baby.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
It's interesting to me also because I feel like man
is the type of person who might engage in the
back and forth and you're not like Daves like you
might see Dave saying it.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Depends his block His block.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Game is let me tell you something though her to
send him something from.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Like a blog.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Because I didn't block that.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Listen though, I go to like when I see people
hate or say something, I go to the to how
many people like?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
To the people that liked it, he blocked them, like
if you like it? What that? If you like that?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Bad comment about that is toans.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Likers like it?
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Don't you comment?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
You better not comment.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Can't come over here no more because this is my thing,
right you got?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
It's a million billions on social media?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
You know what I mean? Why are you coming over here?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I gotta turn my block game.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
While you know over here?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I want love you cool with something you see like
somebody you're cool with liking something that's.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
Well, you like that that he's blocking up that person
that likes blocking because you don't you know, it's free,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I'm giving you free access to my world and you
want to hate on it. I can't see this no more.
You got to go make a fake page to come.
But that page that your page is blocked forever. And
I'm not going to the block list unblocking nothing. If
you blocked, you got.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
To not even just liking some ship you don't like,
put an emoji laughing or nothing is like why.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I'm I'm packing you up quickly.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Every blog say you know, he can't see nothing from
no blocking.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
No you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Unblocked shave room. I can see them.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
They were trying to violate early on in my career.
They was throwing a lot of little you know what
my thing b I could be doing, Like to me,
what matters is my work, the music, that would the act,
whatever it is that I'm working.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
They'll take all of the bullshit like all and I
get it.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
That's what people want to hear like that, that's what
they want to hear. But I'm not just saying them, but.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
More generally, just in general, that's what people do.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
They want to I could put out a brand new album,
but if I get into a back and forth in
a comment, that's gonna yeah, they'll post that before they
post on this new album. So it's almost like, let
me just be quiet and blocked. You know what I'm saying,
I'm gonna shut the fuck up and just block and keep.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Working because that's what gets the engagement right.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
It's never like you invested in X, Y and Z,
like you might get a few ninety six comments.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But as soon as it's like that.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Do you my video came out on me, that ship
went viral, I'm like, all this music I'm dropping. This
is what I want to talk about, a three four
year old video like I did some uh, some alien
ship like niggas ain't never drove sleepy or drunk or
like that like that ain't never happened to no human.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But that's and the headline being like Dave East fell
asleep behind.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
The wheel, and yeah he's not driving today, ladies and gentlemen,
we're just celebrating.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
My driver outside.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Did you get an actual DUI?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
Yeah, I did for that because they found what it was.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I was parked up and there was an empty shand
it was an.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Empty champagne bottle in the back. I wasn't driving and
drinking a bottle, but I mean sleep.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So you're not even allowed to be asleep in the car.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Not not in the driver's seat.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Now, if I'd have been in the passenger seat and
I'd have been like, I could have woke up and
been like yo, the driver ran.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I don't know where he went.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I probably have been good, but the fact that they
knocked and was sitting there knocking for a minute and
I was knocked out. But I thank God for that
night because, like I said, from where they pulled me over,
I lived maybe five minutes away from there, So in
my mind, I'm like, damn you, I could have crashed,
you know what I'm saying, Like the fact that because
I don't remember it, I don't remember like I didn't
(16:10):
purposely pull over and park.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
My crib is up the block, so why would I
do that.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
God pulled me over, made me put the car and
park and say your rest for a second.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And you're right, And I'm glad you take.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
That to you.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I'm still alive, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
In that, And you're so right about that, because sometimes
when things like that happen, you have to take from it,
like thank God it wasn't worse.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
They got it.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I could have not woke. I could have been in
a ditch, in a tree, anything.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Could kill somebody else, and then they woke up.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
To that like I did that.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
So vehiclo homicide.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Something made me pull that truck over and then you know,
now they got these body cams and that's what the
cops is doing. So if you were celebrity or whatever
whatever you mean, they let that they got that body
can for this that's the new thing they releasing it.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
And once they released that, that's what the blogs want
to pick up.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
After I see mine, I seem mad of a rappers,
like I'm like, oh, this is the new shit they
on like they drop they dropping body can for I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Play around anymore because now if I know, like I
gotta go to something tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I am ubering there and back.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I'm not messing around at all if I think like
there's any type of chance, because I just it's like
so much of a risk. We have so much going
for ourselves, Like I don't even want to put myself
you know.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Sometimes with me though, and I know man can vouch
for this too, Like shit is so random and spontaneous.
So sometimes you might not have a driver, you know
what I mean, or the driver gotta link you a
little later, like all right, I'm gonna drive there and
then get with me.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Like so sometimes it's like you you don't.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Have that security of the driver or that comfort like
sometimes you gotta twirl, you gotta get behind the wheel
and drives. So with that being said, I just be like,
you know what, I ain't gonna be bent like to
the point where I gotta be in that predicament again.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
You have to just wait.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
I just gotta even sleep it off for whatever I
gotta do.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But I'm not going to drive under that influence like
that where I'm just tired.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
It wasn't that it was a drunk thing. It was
I was dead tired.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
When when's the last time you took the train? I
think we should all take the train somewhere.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
You know, it's crazy shouting my boy don J. I
shot a video on the A train up Chaying on
four fifth, but this was probably like last winter, like
twenty four. Like last one. I did a video from
like one stop to the next.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Stop, like.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Taking the train to work. Sometimes, yeah, I say doing that,
but you can.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I'm on front.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You did. You're a you're a household name face all that,
like people everybody know you.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But you can still blend.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Yeah, they still believe you can blend.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I take pictures with people on the train, you know,
your hoodie on or whatever sco that you're just chilling.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Somebody might be like, is that you me direct ship?
I'm mad tall.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
You could be like for surely like it ain't ain't
no duck in that. I'm gonna get caught up on
the train.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I want to give you like those ray band glasses,
just be.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Fire through that. One day, I might. I might do that,
just be about it.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Video on the train, like two years.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Ago, videos on the train, But don't take the train.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I don't like this.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
I took the train for so long. I never take
this again.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I'm cool. That was my only form of my feet
in the train. That was transportation. I hated the bus.
I'm getting on the train?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Sometimes like, ain't it crazy how life changed in the
course of like a little over a decade.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yeah, all the time to this day, it still bugged
me out, you know what I mean, Like all of
the people that I was somewhat idolizing or somewhat like,
damn you. I mean don't want to get I want
to be in that world like this is my niggas now,
like majority of them, Like.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I got cond I'm cool with.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Each coast like down South l A, New York, like
where I go like Midwest, Like I feel like just
the way I move around in the years I've been
in it, I built solid relationships and it's a flimsy game.
So to have them solid relationships, I mean, you mean
a lot to them.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Ask you something, where did you see your coming up?
Like you saw your career path being more basketball or rap?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
I never thought rap.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
You never thought rap.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I just loved rap, but I was you boy. Yeah, straight.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Played with a bunch of a few of them, but
Katie is the most you know, I mean, the most common.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
But but how did rap become the career?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Because I I violated the violated my my scholarship, in
my basket, my basketball world went. I went to jail
with that. It was like it's gonna be ten times hard.
It was already hard, Like at the college I was.
I wasn't at a duke, you know what I mean,
or like a UCLA. I was at Richmond and Towson,
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which are known schools, but they ain't them top top
schools where I'm on ESPN every night. So it was
already a challenge being at the school I was at.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Then I go to jail, it was like another accent.
I smoked that.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I mean, like whatever I thought about that, because now
wherever I try to transfer to, that's on my name,
like that's on my jacket. I'm out of jail. I
just came out and in the college world, that ain't
really you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And think about how you came up and that was
what you knew and that was and then to have
that taken from you and not know, like now what
am I gonna do?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Right? And I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
That, you get I knew I knew rappers got money,
like I knew that the top rappers was they seemed
rich from seeing them on TV. But I ain't personally
know no rappers, you know what I'm saying? Or was
I am no rappers in my family? Or I have
no music people in my family, no producers, no nothing,
Like I'm the first one that really jump into something
like like music, like I'm gonna do this music ship
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and made it work, you.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
After you felt like, damn, the basketball thing is not
gonna happen, did you say yourself, I'm gonna pursue music
full fledged, wholeheartedly.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
I'm gonna jump ten.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Feet in this not right there, and then no, not
right there, and then right then and there. I was
trying to figure out how I'm gonna get me some
money quickly, you know what I mean, because I'm Poppedn't
I done? Messed up my scholarship, can't go back to
Mama crib. That's over with. I gotta I'm moving with
my cousin. We're trying to figure it out. He got
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a job. I ain't got no job.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Embarrassing for people who were looking at you thinking you
was gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And you know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Back and I'm walking back.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I'm back in the projects where every time I would
come home to visit, niggas is rushing me to get back.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
To school, Like Nahga, you don't want to go go.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Now I'm duck into the store because I don't want
niggas to see me, you know what I mean, Because
now I'm living here, I'm not visiting. Then you feel embarrassed,
and I had to wear that, but I had to
switch that. That embarrassment is what drove me to go
so hard with the rap immediately, like.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Oh nah, made get a couple of hours up.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
You know what, I'm gonna go hard with the rap.
What was that defining moment that made you say that.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It was the moment It probably was, Uh, probably was
Bully Bro.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I ain't gonna front big shouts to Bully. I would,
I would probably say because Bully was the first one
to show me what rap and all that ship was doing.
He was, he was with Trey Songs early, he was
around gym, you know what I mean. So I've seen
that when I was playing ball. I would go to
the parties and see it. So I'm like, all right,
let mean, let me if I'm a little different than niggas.
(23:45):
Let me see if I put my twister with everybody
already doing let me let me do this ship my way.
And then I'm in the hood doing it, doing it,
doing it, and it started the feedback started just making
me do it more like Nigga that.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Shit like you just recorded that. You just wrote that.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
You wrote that, Who wrote that? Like I wrote that?
Like niggas wasn't believe it. Then I I'm starting to
memorize my ship. Now canvas is coming around. I can
freestyle for an hour, you know what I'm saying, Like
I'm doing all the mad siphers, all this ship like,
So that's when it was like, all right, the feedback
from the streets, they fucking with me.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
I'm in Queensbridge every day. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I'm seeing Jungle, I'm seeing Block, God bless the day,
and I'm seeing Left, I'm seeing Wizz, I'm seeing nas family.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
They telling me you got it. You know what I'm saying, like,
keep doing that ship, keep doing that ship.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
So that's how the Nah ship came about, you know
what I'm saying, Like and from when he.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Co signed a huge.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
When he said that through Jungle, Yeah yeah, that was
straight through jump. When Na said it, I said, oh,
years up basketball, that basketball ship. I was thinking. But
I thought I had messed up and I wasn't gonna
bounce back.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I'm back.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
That's it now I can.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Now I'm getting praised again because you know, coming from basketball,
I was so used to being praised. Yes, you know
what I mean, like always that that was my upbringing.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
I was always the ball player.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
So to not get that praise, to be talked down
on and my all Carol, I love her to death.
She telling me, you know, the fire department is hiring.
I'm like, I'm not about to be no motherfucking firefighters, Like,
but these are the things that.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Come across your table out for you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
She was looking out. But in my mind, I'm like that,
come on. But that was where I was at in
life at that time. I'm back into projects. I'm trying
to figure it out. We got no junk trying. The
fire department is hiring, Like, no, I'm not going I
can't do that, you know what I'm saying. Like, but
I thank god that music worked when it worked, because
I was almost at the verge of saying this it
ain't about to work.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That's when it happens too. Sometimes you gotta just push
it a little.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I was right there, like, man, I'm about to nah this.
I ain't making no money off it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I was gonna say, it's hard to do music when
you're not making no.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Much to do.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And I was doing a little shows and ship. I
might get a little two three hundred dollars here.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
But other people got to get paid to you.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Like, so that wasn't no money. And my pops, My
pops is Beijing, you know what I mean, the Caribbean.
All he think about is all you getting.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Paid, right, get another job, Get another job.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Are you getting paid from what it is you're doing?
You know what I'm saying, don't don't. Don't be doing
nothing illegal, you know what I mean. But whatever you're doing,
is it paying you? And I used to have to
tell Pop, I gotta get my name up. They're not
gonna pay me right now. They're not gonna pay me
right now. Once my name up, that money gonna come.
A nigga, go get a job in the meantime, you
know what I'm saying. In the meantime, are you trying
to figure that out? You should be working. I didn't
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want to hear that, so I gave everything I had
to music, you know what I'm saying, Like every day,
luckily I look I linked up with a few guys
that had a studio. You know what I'm saying, where
I could just be in that motherfucker day in day out.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Like you know what I'm saying, It's like fate.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
By the time I looked up, it was nas On
on Angie Martinez shouting me out. I'm like, whoa this ship?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
You know what I'm saying? What I do?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I love about you. I love your relationship.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
And I tell you this all the time we talk
about this is your relationship with your mother and father.
I love to see that they are so supportive of you.
They come out to your events, they're right there, Like
I love to see that because all of us wasn't
fortunate to have that right that unit like that like that,
So I love to see that.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Man, You know what's crazy with that? I was I
was talking about man last night, about that. In the
basketball world, that's normal.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
That's a fact.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
It is in the basketball world.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
You see players with their mother, they father, that's a
normal thing. In the rap world, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, you're right, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Like the majority of the round.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Their parents have to be really supportive, come to the games.
If it's aau they got you know, it's a lot
dad nowhere.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
The athlete that makes it all the way to the
NBA is the movie. The athlete that makes it all
the way to the NBA, he had that.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Support system right going all the way.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
A lot of rappers, you know what I mean, might
have stumbled out of this fucking hallway, fell out of
this building, came out of this jail. It made something happen,
like you know what I mean. So I think the
fact that I have my parents with me. First of all,
I love it, you know what I'm saying. They both
seventy plus and they be righting amazing.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
You gotta see it though right now. Matter when we
was at we went to a game.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
We was at football game one day, Giants, giants, they
had their giant stuff on, like.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
But then I made sure they know they're gonna smoke,
they're gonna drink, they're gonna vibe what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
So to be thirty seven years old now and still
have my.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Parents first and foremost, that you still have them is
the dopest shit ever.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
And then to have them.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Physically support everything I do. I happen to tell my
mom sometimes like mine to this one, and.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
To witness what you've become is amazing for them because
that's a product of them, right And.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Ain't seen me fall off. They seen what they think.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
When you got locked up.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And my father stopped speaking, he didn't want to speak
to me, and my dad my mother held that damn.
That's that's why I could make them calls to my
pops want because he he told my pops he was
he did time. So his biggest fear for me was
going to jail. He never wanted. He always tried to
do things to keep me off of that path. And
as soon as I got on my own, that's what
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I did. You know what I say, I fucked that up.
So he was totally disgusted. So that was really I
really had to bounce back to him. In my eyes.
I was like, I get back because MIMMI gonna, I
always say, if I robbed banks, whatever I did rock
and roll, MIMMI gonna love it. But she's gonna be
hiding the money if I'm robbing a bank, gonna stash
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the bread. But my pops, he he you know what
I'm saying, He's he grew up a certain way, so
he just didn't want to raise no bump. He didn't
want to raise no jail bird. He didn't want to
raise that. And that's and I went to jail. I'm saying,
regardless if it was a major crime or a minor crime,
like I still had to go through that system and
understand that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So me and my pops fell out. Once the music
shit start rolling.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
He was good, he was like okay and listen, and
that kind of despair of the sound Bow Tagger chunks too.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I feel like, yeah, they kicked me out of school
all that.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's all that song I was. I was playing around
on that song. You get what I'm saying. That was
one of them joints.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I was like, singing this, that's my favorite song.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah about shouting. They Cravey and produced that Shouts the
stove Guard. But I'm in the studio just singing it
to the beat.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You feel me playing around.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But I was about to write a rap, like I'm
about to rap on his beat, and my engineer was like, bro,
do that ship you're doing right there. Just see how
that's sound. And I just turned that into the whole song.
And then when I sent it this stove here like Nigga,
I ain't even know you be on this type of
because the.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Majority of shit I put out, I'm rapping, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So that was just a different melodic But it was
from me playing around, like you know what, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I didn't put no effort to that.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Like the should I be writing my heart out and crying,
sweating and going through it things.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Don't care nothing about that ship.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
But that's how it happens because it also feels like
you know, and some of the things you say on there,
I love.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Like when your crew made it. That's when you know
nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
And I really I'm not just saying that.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I really feel that, Like I don't feel like it's
all the way lit because I'm lit.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
We all, I want all whoever's a part of what
I got going on.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
We all got to have a nice call.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Real success is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
It's not it's not jewelry. A lot of niggas think
it's jewelry. To me, it's not jewry. Okay, you can
put chains on niggas whatever. What cause that man driving
compared to the car you driving? What crib is that
man living in compared to the cribb? I mean like,
once all that's at at somewhere, you know what I mean,
even scale in the same space, that's when I can
(32:02):
sit back and be like, yeah, we did that, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Until then, there's a lot more work to be done.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You know what I was wondering, because you know, I
come from working with Wu Tang and Whoa, so you know,
I know method may really well, you know, I watched.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
That video, seen that video as a kid a.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Thousand fucking times with hard You know she was a
part of it, was her in the video.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
I was a part of five Daly Venom, but she was.
You know that she was a rapper Venoms.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
I did used to DJ though, So if you haven't,
you gotta.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Rap voice though, you gotta voice you saying like I.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Feel like if I were to pursued now, somebody I
could write your son, I could write too if I
wanted to.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
You know what I'm saying that a voice though, your
voice definitely okay. I think most I'm gonna be on
Karma eight eight when he get married. Yeah, that's in July.
Mab colma vibe and be here in thirty days. Trust me,
you rapp we cook it right now.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
What I was going to ask you is that I
remember in the early days of boutem method, man hated
that he was a sex symbol. Like he It used
to annoy him, like he used to purposely like be
like I don't want to look good like And so
I want to know how that has been for you,
like where women have been like David's Davis, how do
you handle that?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
It's with me, it's all love.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I feel like my favorite rappers had had had a
female following, nas D Max, all of them, like they
had a heavy female fan base.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So I accepted with open arms, like I don't. I
don't think it's nothing wrong with it. I don't. That's
not what I'm thinking about.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I mean, that's not my focus, like ooh, I'm a
sex symbol to mean, no, I don't think like that.
But at the same time, I don't. I don't shun
it like it's love. It's all love.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
You're like, I'm not a piece of meat.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But but you know what with that being said, it
keeps me on a point.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
With my own body.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Okay, that gets me in the gym, It keeps me
going to the dinnist, It keeps me drinking water, It
keeps my keep my skin clear. I mean, like all
of that on top of just always being in the cameras,
but knowing I got a bunch of females checking me out,
Like I mean, I got to keep up with my
parents at all time.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So you don't want to have to block nobody for
being like teeth. Now when it comes to acting too,
I saw recently you were saying that you had some
other things coming up.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, I got cast it. I don't want to. I
don't think I could get it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Get it, don't give us no real details. But you
did get cast it for something else, some fire, yeah something,
So you're excited. I could tell you excited.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Because some fire, some fire that was mad random?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Was that something that you thought what happened to from
the wrapping? Like you know, like you said, it wasn't
something you initially thought would happened, but then once you
got into being an artist, I kind of felt like
you quickly transitioned into acting.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
The opportunity presented itself, and to me, it was like
why not, you know what I mean? Like I always
wanted to act. I always wanted to be in a movie,
Like I always wanted to do that on top of
the rapping, Like I actually wanted to be in a
movie more than I had wanted to I mean, be
a rapper early on. Like, but in my mind, I'm like,
I never went to no acting school. I never took
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no acting classes, never had no acting coach. So that
was all me freestyling. Any acting you've seen in me,
from Wu Tang to the movie beats all that. That's
just me soaking game up on the set, you know
what I mean. Like, and luckily when I came in
with The Beast film, that was with Anthony Anderson. So
he's a he's legendary, like you know what I'm saying,
he was in life or he's a bunch.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Of more favorite shits.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
So to really talk with him and soak up game,
I got it off top, like you know what I'm saying.
Then I went to the Wu Tangs. But with me,
I like even with Meth. Meth was one of my
favorite niggas growing up, and he was acting. He was
in Belly, he was dropping music and he was acting.
So it was like how it was just like that
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was one of them things where it was like I
gotta do both because I've watched people do that already,
you know what I'm saying. I didn't know it was
gonna come to me that early, getting the opportunity to act.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
But I'm like, what, let's do.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I feel like you can't just be a rapper anymore, Like.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
It is long gone.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
You know why?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Because the top top people are multitask they doing mad
different shit.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Why they're not just doing music.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
So I'd be a fool to think, oh, I'm gonna
just make music, you know what I'm saying, and not
do nothing else. Like I think music for me open
those doors up for people to see me, see my face,
and you know what I mean. Like all of that,
and by that happening, the model, the fashion world start calling,
the acting and all of that.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
It just started coming. But it came from music.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, I think you got a lot of lanes open
and then let's rap about it. And I know at
first I felt like, you know, you were apprehensive because
you felt like there were so many podcasts and I
know you had your kitchen talk prior to that.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
What made y'all decide like we really got to make
this a thing for me?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
I just think it was organic, right. What happened was
Jim has started doing a.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Podcast called Artists to Artists, and he was like, y'all,
I want to I want I want all y'all to
come pull up together and we just do one big interview.
So the comments and the feedback from that interview was like,
it was so crazy because the energy because we have
these talks, you know, we kick it amongst each other,
but on camera. It came across so dope that I
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think the people was really wanted to see this.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
So then we just we jumped right into action. It
was just like, let's put it together.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
No, it's gold.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Honestly with me, I this is just me.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
I don't even view it as a I know it
is a podcast, but I don't look at it like that.
I don't even I look at it more like we
kicking it. Me and my niggas is kicking it about
whatever topics is going on or whatever we feel. We're
not we're not trying to slander. No, we're not even
trying to point nobody out. Like we actually taking shit
that's going on in the world and saying what would
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what would we do in that situation?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
So it's really a com just amongst bros. Like for me,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
You know, one thing we have to do in radio
when we have like a cast is put together like
what each person's role is or how you would describe
them in one sentence. So I would love to hear
what you guys have to say, because everybody has such
different personalities, right, so if you have to say this
is what Fab is in one sentence, how would you
(38:34):
describe him?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Fab?
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Uh? You know what's crazy? Fab is hilarious, like really hilarious,
Like people don't know that now.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I feel like social media helped us realize.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
That Fab is dead funny, Like he's not quiet.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I've never been around Fab and I ain't crying, like
I ain't laughing, like he's hilarious, but he like I
feel like he got to know you or he gotta.
He gotta be comfortable around you to to to be
that way, you know what I'm saying. Uh, Coppo, I
knew Copple since I was like eighteen nineteen. I knew
Gym a long time.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Wow, So you knew him even before everything was.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Way before all of this, Like I said, Bully, I was,
I was around.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Did he realize like this the same day?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
You know, I thought it was me, but he didn't
know I was. He thought I was. He thought I
was like not really on the rap. He thought he
was like this nigga played ball like he didn't. You
know what I'm saying, He's not thinking I'm about to
do what I did with this rap shit at all
at that time.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
It took me a whole summer to get a verse
from Jim. I'm going to the studio every night. That's crazy,
But Copo, I've been around for a.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Long time and then may know, how would you describe
him Main genuine like I ain't on front, he got one.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
He's one way, he don't and from the from the
day I met him, he got he got He's one way.
I love that about this nigga. Like every time I
see him, I don't give a fuck where we at,
who were around, what's the situation.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
He's the same way I can see, okay, exact.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Same way, Like you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
When did y'all meet.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Mm hmm thirteen, Yeah, when he first started started getting
hot thirteen fourteen, Yeah, yeah, Main probably one of the
first known artists at that time, especially in the town.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
That was like I got a joint for.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You and then you didn't put him yet. Huh oh,
never mind what you said.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
He on my on, my my best album to date,
my best body of work, my best body of work.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
And is independent.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
I can okay, I can get my man a couple
of hours when that things.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
So you know, I seen I seen him coming up.
Speaker 6 (40:54):
You know, I forgot who was around coming up in
an era you know how you got different little errors
coming up. You got like a cluster artist that's coming through.
And you know, and I you know me, man, anybody
that know me? Man, I ain't never ever been on
no hated time. And then we're gonna always salute the
ones that's real, the ones that's that's that's that that
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mirror us. And and I was like, nah, he got something.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
So I was a fan of it.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
I liked it, and I just like his energy though
you know, he was coming outside facts. You know, I
was seeing him outside in the clubs and so we
just we just clicked from back then.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, And how would you describe yourself in a sentence?
Speaker 6 (41:34):
Me?
Speaker 4 (41:37):
How would I describe myself?
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Authentic? I'm just me, Like I don't. I don't feel
like I got up. I don't feel like I have
to uh put on a I'm not a character like
I'm the same way, you know what I mean, I don't.
I don't leave my crib thinking all right, I gotta
be Davies now, like you know what I'm saying, Like,
of course I'm for with my kids and shit like
that as a father, but just in general, like I'm
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the same person with the homies, with the the team
whoever I'm working with, Like you know what I mean,
Like down to the interviews, like I'm not putting on
no act, you know what I mean. If I don't
really know how to sum that up, But that's me.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Okay, are you gonna go for a son?
Speaker 3 (42:19):
You think the girls is heavy being I know I
got a three pole.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
I'm girled up right now. I'm girled up for surely.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't know, but
I love I love the kids like I feel like
that's that priceless love a.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Little baby brother, that's.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
That love you can't I mean, I'm paying for it,
but that I mean, you ain't got to pay for
that love.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
That love, that love hit a little different, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
It's that they say Daddy's little girls. Like that's what
it is. I don't want to sound girls and their fathers.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
I don't want to sound like a like a WHOLEMLL call,
but it's it's like some heart warm and ship like
you know what I'm saying, Like really like I like
just feeling them, hugging them seeing how they look, how
they act, they face, they their personality that they look,
they act just like me.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
It's little Me's like. So that's to me, that's the
dopes ship in the world.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Until they get the age of Maino's daughter and then
his daughter thinks he not.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Cool at all.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
But you know what, I don't. I don't put that
on me.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I feel like everybody be saying that, like, nah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (43:24):
I'm gonna keep it.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
I'm gonna figure that age out, Like I don't like,
I better stay cool, Dad.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
You're just not cool. Everybody thinks you're cool and you're not.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
That's a cute time too though it is my oldest.
She she's she be over it, like she don't. She
don't really like like if I'm out with her and
people want pictures.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And all irritated.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, now Kobe, the four year old, she want to
get in the picture with me. You know what I'm saying,
that's that's my little spirit animal and the baby.
Speaker 4 (43:55):
I don't. I don't know her personality, don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
What that's going to.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I want to tell you the youngest when they have
two oldest, this is that they're playing off of.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
They're gonna be.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Aware right.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Aware, she aggressive though she ain't. She she'll let you
know if she don't want you around on all of that.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
And she only won.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
So you think that having daughters also affects, like when
it comes to relationships and all of that, because sometimes
men say, I ain't realize this till I had a daughter.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, the emotional aspect of it, you know what I'm saying,
Like as a grown man, you be feeling like like
like likes like women. Like in my mind, you be
like you be feeling like you be all right, you
know what I'm saying. Like women you tough, like you
know what I mean, real shit, Like same way I
funk about myself, Like I get over that I'm tough.
But you realize from from from young the emotions is different.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Than women, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Than men, you know what I mean a lot of
things that like my popsould screaming on us and we
would go cry whatever, and we would just have to
go cry, like you know what I'm saying, Like we
didn't get no extra explanation after that or nothing like.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
That's just what it was. We had to wear.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
That Now with me is like if I if they
do do something that pushed me off, and I gotta
say say what I gotta say to them, I feel bad,
like you know what I mean, Like after they after
then I gotta go back and say it nice, like
after I done screamed it at him.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
I gotta go back and be like, look a minute,
this is.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
What I meant that you're also thinking about.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
I want to make sure I trained them some men
later on.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
What I mean, don't have nobody's talking to you, don't nobody.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
All that's playing in my mind dealing with them with
a little boy out there.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Man, go in your room.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
You know what I'm saying, Like do some push ups.
But with the girls, I gotta they a little more fragile,
you know what I mean. So I gotta and each
one is different. Well Kyrie and Kobe, you know what
I mean. They Kyrie's nine, Kobe's four, so they Kobe
wants to be Kyrie's shadow, krippened. So it's almost like
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I gotta teach big Sis how to deal with little City.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
You know what I mean. Because she was the baby,
the baby.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Like little feeling she following in your It's almost.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Like she had the fact that I had two more
daughters after car it kind of sped up her being
the big sister because she was the baby. Kyrie was
my album cover that's in the world ky Like. Then
then I had two more, so Kyrie had to speed
up real quick, like damn, Dad, you can't hold me. No,
I'm like you look, I got Kobe right here.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
On my neck, like, and the albums after them, because
you don't want them to turn and be like, how
come Kyrie got the album?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I got both of them, won't get album. It's coming, so.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Got to do that, all right, Well, thank you so much,
and congratulations Karma for just seeing like like I said,
I've met you so early on and just to see
where you are today. I love it because honestly, like
being a hip hop artist or artists in general, you
never know how long that's gonna last. And it feels
like it's just you.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Know, I can't just be the music. You know.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
It's like guests been. And that's the whole idea, right
is you always want to be going way up. There's
another level to unlock. Always we're gonna keep going way
up all right here.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I just hate that you've been drinking that one little
drink for so long.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
More than me for for one I was sipping this. Okay,
we gotta do one more. What's up?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
All right? One more? All right, It's way up.