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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's up his way up with Angela yee? And how
exciting because y'all know I love a good hire movie.
Alison Brion, Dave Franco are here today. Thank you for
joining me the stars of this movie together.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Maybe you guys are definitely together.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Every way?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, man, So you know, just so you guys know,
this is a movie that you did not have to
direct or produce. You you got to act in front of.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We did produce, yes, but we didn't write or direct it.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Okay, So how is that to just have knowing that
like someone else can direct and we can just put
our acting bag on.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Uh yeah, basically. So I've directed a couple of movies now,
which I love, but it's also made me enjoy acting
more than ever because you know, obviously, as a director
there's so much on your plate, and so now when
I'm acting, I step on set and I'm like, oh,
I got one job to do. I'm gonna kill this
for you.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, hang out in the trailer.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So totally the last you know, we've worked This is
our fifth film that we've collaborated on together, but the
last two that we worked on Dave directed and we
co wrote one of those together. But so similarly, this
was us getting to reconnect on screen, and then on
top of that, working together on screen way more intensely,
way more intimately than we ever have. And I'm not
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even just talking about the content of the film, but
just the fact that we're the co leads of this movie.
There's not many actors in the movie. It truly was
the two of us on set all day, every day.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But also the content of the film, and the.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Content of the film is the most intimate and intense stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We're doing things in this film that we've never done
on or off camera. It got weird, I hope.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, exactly. So for people listening, if they want to
know just a quick two lines about what the movie
is and then we'll get into it, what would you
tell them? This is the premise of it.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes, So it's basically about a codependent couple who gets
infected with something that makes it so that when they're
apart from each other they start to feel sick, so
they need to be near each other at all times,
and then it starts escalating to the point where their
bodies start fusing together.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I feel like a lot of people there's one scene
with the skin. You know, how you tell your partner like,
I just want to be in your skin, like, you know,
you feel like you can't get close enough to a person,
and you guys definitely show what it could be like.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
We went there.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
In our regular relationship, we've never said that to each other.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
No, but we are very cozy.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, but I've never been like I gotta get under
that skin to get in your skin until I read
this strip that I thought, I guess I do.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I guess I do want to be closer.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But yeah, there were days where like we were literally
attached to each other with a prosthetic for ten hours
and so we could not leave each other side. And
so we're one to the bathroom together, you know, and we.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
One Number one one for all relationships.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Just no coffee that day.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Umber around you a rule. No Number two.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I feel like men are real like more comfortable with that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh yeah, men just don't even want to know that.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Women go, I don't know, yeah, but they would like
have the door open, not care not courtesy flesh.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I don't like that. I don't like that. I think
to keep the romance alive. No. Number two is in
front of each other. We redesigned our whole bathroom so
that the toilet is in its own room. It has
a sliding.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Door because I don't want to, Yeah, I want to
if I have to shower, I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Exactly I need to do my stuff in the bathroom.
And I don't want to know about your.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
The only boundary we put up in our relationships, the
only one.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Now, I want to talk about the characters that you
guys play in this Tim and Millie, and so here's
one thing I noticed that was so interesting to me.
It kind of goes against the traditional norms the way
that you guys are together. And I have to give
this away. I'm sorry, but there's a proposal. Yeah, and
it's very early on. It's not but I just can't imagine.
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I used to always feel like I was very like
pro a woman doing anything, sure, but and like, oh yeah,
a woman proposes, no problem. But then it felt like awful.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, I agree. It's so funny that you said. I
definitely am like, I support people whatever they want to
do if it's right in your relationship. That's great. Dave
proposed to me. In real life, I definitely would not
have proposed to Dave. Historically, Miranda proposed to Steve on
Sex in the City, and I liked that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
But in this movie it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Does not go well.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
But you said think that from the point of view
as a woman, no problem. But I never thought about
how a man would fail. Sure in that situation.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Just depends relationship to relationship. I'm sure in some ways,
certainly in this movie.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, this is a very fractured relationship.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, it's less I think about the gender norms and
more about like, you got to be on the same
page with your partner. I would say it's the same.
Even if a man's proposing to a woman, you got
to be pretty certain she's gonna say yes. If you're
gonna pop the question, I think you should be.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But especially if you're gonna propose in front of all
your friends.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It's a big swing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, But you know, if it would have been even
an affected relationship, if he would have proposed to her,
I wouldn't have said yes. It wouldn't have been like that.
And I also think that it also was factored because
of other people's views. Definitely the relationship.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, these characters, their friends are not that supportive of
their relationship. But I feel like that's less about them
being bad friends, and it's more like, maybe this relationship
is not great, like where we meet the couple in
the movie, the relationship is not in a great.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I feel like we've all been there where you have
a friend who's with someone who maybe they shouldn't be with,
but you're like, what do I say if I tell
them that to break up with this person and they
end up getting married though, as in.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
The back of their head can never overcome that.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, listen, I've had to be like, but you know,
here's my rule. I'm gonna tell you how I feel
one time, because I would feel bad if I didn't
say anything, and then whatever you do, I support it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Okay, now I agree, and you're right once they up
the ante, like if when they've just started dating, you
got to get it in quick and go like, I
don't know about this person, and once they move in
together get married, then you kind of go, Okay, you're
doing your thing, and I support you, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
But I think also because it felt like at first
their relationship was good, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's interesting. I think at one time they had a
good relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I think I think it's it's like smoking mirrors a
little bit. I think they're trying to put on a
good face for their friends and for each other. I
think it's like this, this couple just has a lack
of communication. They haven't really told each other how they've
felt in a very long time, and so it's been
building and building, and then later in the movie it explodes.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
This is where their codependency comes into play, because certainly
there's this feeling that they don't want to break up,
they really want to stay together. But you're looking at
them from the outside kind of being like, yeah, they're
not on the same page with the proposal, and they're
you know, they don't just they just don't seem super happy.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
These couples who have been together for over a decade,
and it's like, are they staying together because it's comfortable?
Have they come complacent? Are they still actually in love?
And like this, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
They used to kind of sort of what my character,
it's like, we're meeting her rights. She's starting to have
that analysis, right, She's kind of like maybe we're maybe
we are just comfortable and we're too scared to leave.
I think she feels like if she leaves the relationship,
will she cease to exist? Like they're so intercha.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
She doesn't know who she is without him.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I want to ask, just in all objectively, do you
think that she was too good for him?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Because we're talking about the character the characters.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I just want to ask, because while I'm watching it,
even like I watched it with my boyfriend, there's one
part and this is not a giveaway, because there's a
cave that's involved, Like I mean, is bringing her down
literally like he could have just you know, she could
have went and got help. She goes to try to
help him, and you like pull her into you know,
(07:59):
I had whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I honestly had never thought about that exact moment in
the movie being such a clear metaphor the relationship. But
he is truly pulling her des She's always trying to
help him, and he's pulling her down. I I do think.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I think here's a nice way to say it, nice
way to say it. I think my character has a
lot more to overcome.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Myself.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
He's learning to become less less selfish. Yes, yes, so,
I think definitely at the beginning she is way too
good for him, and maybe she is by the end
but it's like less of a less of a discrepancy.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I do think at the start of the movie it
is sad because we're watching this character really like just
start to come out of her shell, to like take
a step away from the codependence, even just by taking
this job. Right, She's like, you know what, I'm going
to do something for me and we're gonna move. I've
done a lot for you, supporting you as a musician,
but we're gonna move. And when you see my character
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in these early scenes with this other character, right, this
teacher at school, we kind of have a great yeah,
and you're sort of, oh, what would happen maybe if
she were with someone who were like more satisfied in
their life. You kind of see a buoyancy to her
that again just highlights how in this relationship they've been
really bogged down for a long time, Like they don't
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have a great sexual relationship, they're just really disconnected. But
I think a cool trick of the movie is that
over the course of like these insane things that they're
dealing with, they do kind of learn to support each other.
They bond.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You know, one of your friends in the movie puts
it into perspective and calls him like a thirty five
year old film musician. Yeah that's she says, that's boring.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, yeah it is. Yeah, I mean this is a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
This part of it is based on our writer, director
Michael Shanks. This was like him doing some cathartic work
because he used to want to be a musician and
even as like a filmmaker, he was like, he's been
with his partner over sixteen years.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've known from childhood. Is each other exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And I think he really wrote this as this way
of saying, like, I hope I'm not turning into that
guy that everyone's going oof. He's still trying to make movies.
He should move on, Like we all know the person who's.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
He wrote the kind of the darkest version of himself
and what he hoped people didn't say about him, but
he put that all into this character.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
What advice would you give somebody, Let's just say, hypothetically,
let's say a couple is because I know people are
asking you our relationship questions and watching as you guys
are able to work together and move together. It looks
like you're having a really good time. Also, if somebody
were to tell you, Okay, I've been with this person
since childhood and I don't know anything else, and we're
thinking about getting married. Should I before we do that
(10:43):
experiment a little? What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Experimental little That's a dangerous game.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
This is this is a case to case thing. But
I do believe that, like gosh, even if you are
with someone that you ultimately should be with, if you
have nothing to compare it to, you might not know
how good you actually have it. And so I do
think it is healthy to kind of date around when
you're younger and just know what's out there and have
something to compare it to.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I agree. I feel like I got a lot of
wildness out of my system in my twenties, and that's
so nice because now in our relationship, I'm never wondering, oh,
why didn't I try this or that. You know, I
certainly know couples who got divorced for that same reason.
They got together when they were in college or something
like that, and you know, they were just so monogamous
(11:32):
and not I don't know, didn't have they didn't try
a lot of things, and then within the marriage one
of them started to step out.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I love Day's face when you said wild things. He
was like, between the two of you, I.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Think it was wilder the two of us.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You're incorrect on that. I'm generally much more shy than
her shy boy, but I think she brings out a
good side of me, and I think I bring out
a good set of her.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's a nice balance I've seen, Alison. In an interview,
you said that you previously had never really thought about marriage.
It wasn't like on your bucket list of you know
how they say when you're young, people assume that women
are like planning their wedding.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And yes, yes, we feel like we were just talking
about this because you were like, why did it change
with me?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I wasn't fishy for a compliment. I just remember it
came up the other day. I remember it coming up
and I was like, oh, yeah, why did you not
want to get married?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I know, you know, I think that I don't know.
I just it truly was not a priority for me.
I think I i in some respects it has to
do with with my career and loving acting even before
I thought of the word career, Like as a kid,
I loved performing, I loved acting. I would be sooner
acting out like my Oscar acceptance speech than I would
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my wedding or my or like having a baby. I
just think, and why did it change have this artistic drive? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
What was that special that day managed to you know,
make you feel like I want to ring?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
It's the most annoying answer that when people are like,
when it happens, you just know. It was that like
being struck by lightning. Like truly, I met Dave and
I just knew it like hit me like a ton
of bricks. I remember it because so clearly I had
been so opposed to marriage, and that certainly had been
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a point of contention and other relationships, and like the poll,
the way that I was like leaving my phone out
for Dave to discover like pictures of engagement rings. It
was so unlike me and it was so real. I
was like, I want to be married. I gotta be
with him. I don't know, I think it's I think
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that's true love.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I think it's I think that's great. What I do
used to think about marriage was that something that was
on your aspirational I always.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Thought I would get married, but it wasn't this thing
in my head where I thought about some giant, lavish wedding,
and the truth is we had a very intimate, say ceremony.
We did it in our backyard with just our family
and uh.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And just our immediate family, no cousins, yeah, yeah, uncles.
It was truly twelve people.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
But then we rented out Pizzeria Moza in La and
had a pizza party for sixty of our closest friends,
which also felt very us but like we were like, Okay,
we're both not wedding people, but if we're going to
do it, let's just do it our way.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
When Allison was leaving those pictures, how do you already
known that at some point this was going to happen?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah? I think I knew pretty early on, and I
think it was more about, you know, you get to
a point where I'm like, Okay, I think or I know,
this is the person I want to spend the rest
of my life with, but I also want like the
proposal to be right and for that to kind of
come at the right time. And of course then I
fumbled the proposal pretty badly.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Oh you didn't fumble it, I would have fun you
didn't fumble it.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Well, the shortest version of it is just to set
it up. Basically, we met at Marty Gras in New Orleans,
as people.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Do exactly very much, and.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
She had this like silver Mardi Gras mask on her
head the whole weekend and I would try to take
it from her and it was like this flirty back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
At the end of the weekend, I wrote my phone
number on it and I hid it in his bag.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And so what she didn't know is I kept it.
And so when I proposed, like three and a half
years later.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
We're in Big Sir, we're there for Dave's birthday weekend,
so like I just wasn't expecting it at all. So
I don't know that he's saved this mask all this time.
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And I also I don't have the ring yet, because
I knew she wanted to pick out the ring with me.
But I was like, you know, I have the mask.
This will be the romantic thing that I held onto.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I'm honestly glad by the way, after leaving out all
those photos, Like when it came time, he was like
and it was one like this right, I was like,
nor God, But anyway, for the moment.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So we're in Big sir, we're looking out on this
beautiful view. She turns around. I'm on one kneel. I'm
wearing the mask, and she can't place the mask.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Just imagine. He's like, honey, come out to take literally,
I come out to take a picture. Turn around. He's
in a silver Zoro mask. He bought this placeholder ring.
It was in this giant pink box with a paper
napkin like from a like from a I thought it
was Donald and this little rock, this old weird ring,
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and he just will you marry me? And I just
start laughing. He said, are you being serious? I basically
just are you being serious?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
The whole proposal is basically me explaining why it was
so sweet that I kept the mask.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
What is this thing?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
I pulled the romance? Like, are you being serious? He
said yes, I kept this mask for all these years
because I knew you were the one. I go, wait,
but are you being serious? He goes yes, because I
love you, and blah blah. Finally he goes yes, and
I'm gonna have Irene Newarth make you a custom wedding ring.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And I go, yes, that's what I was like.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
I'm mostly worried. What is this rock in this box?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Do you guys joke around with each other like pranky
tad that you didn't take it seriously when he had
the maskline.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Like, oh, I mean, I don't love We prank each other,
but we laugh a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I say that Dave has this all on video because
he was secretly videoing it on his phone, and he
will not let me own this video.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It's only on my phone because I know she will
send this to everyone in her life and I'm very
embarrassed by it. But I let her watch it on
my phone once a year on our anniversary.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
And to be totally fair by the end, by the
third are you serious? I was like crying and turned
romance to be totally fair.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Will you admit that it was a sweet gesture that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I kept sweet?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That was incredible?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
What made we decide to keep that? So that was
something that you knew how special?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, you moved house to house with that discussion. We
still have it.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
We obviously had a very strong connection and I just
felt like, Okay, this is going to be something that
I want and that we can look back on.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
This is amazing. This is the real love story.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
But what's the most amount of time you would say
the two guys has spent together, Like, I mean, we know,
the pandemic happened, and a lot of people were in
cases where it went well. It could have been like
an amazing experience to be able to just be.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, I mean the pandemic honestly was kind of a
nice I mean, like for everybody, right, it was an
interesting test. We ended up writing a movie together during
the pandemic. We wrote our film Somebody I used to know.
It's on Amazon. But that was an interesting way to
use the time, and we certainly had to. I certainly
tried to set boundaries during the pandemic in terms of
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being like, we can write from noon to five, then
I'm going to make dinner. We got to kind of
turn off our work brains and be able to hang out.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But in terms of just spending time together, I think
we realized we're like, oh, if the world ends, we're okay.
If it's just yeah, yeah. And also that she's a
good cook and I'm not, and she's literally keeping life.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
In the movie.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
That's right, does it?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
It is definitely like because when I think about this movie,
like I was saying, it kind of feels like the
traditional you know, masculine.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Role is held right by the bread winter out working,
he's home cooking.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
She can drive, he can't drive. And now listen, that
part really was annoying to me because because honestly, imagine
you're in the middle of nowhere, you can't go anywhere
unless you're driving, and he literally is trapped unless you
drop him off with the train.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Again, this is based on our director's real life.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Melbourne just recently got his driver's life.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Because Melbourne is a city like New York, where you
can get by, you know, walking, taking public transportation like
in Los Angeles. This would never fly.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
You know, my mom, we're from New York and she
couldn't drive until my parents moved to New Jersey and necessity,
I was literally in tenth grade and my mom had
to learn, and she drives to this day. She really
cannot drive. Like she can drive on a residential street slowly.
She will not get on a highway. She will not
drive people. I literally don't beat at people because I
feel like that could be my mom. That's just thirty
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miles an hour on the highway.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Totally, and I beep less at people. Having three young nephews.
I feel like once my sisters started having kids, I
was like, they might have a baby in the car. No,
gotta let them drive slowly.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Was there anything creepy that happened? You know a lot
of times when people are filming horror movies and you
guys were literally like in the forest doing things I
would never do, like following a path. You know, there's
certain things when you watch a movie you're like, oh
my god, come on, yeah, like why would they do that?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I mean, did anything freaky? Because I always hear when
people film horror movies every now and then there's like
they get a little something supernatural happens.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But like the first thing that comes to mind is,
you know, we shot a lot out in the forest,
and like this was in Australia, and before our first
time out there, people were like, oh, this place is
like notorious for tics. And then and then you cut
to us like rolling around on the ground, and when.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
He says before it was truly like we get out
into the woods, were seconds away from filming shooting. They're
turning on fake rain machines and exactly we're about to
just be lying on the ground, falling into a hole
and they go, oh, by the way, look out for ticks.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
You were like, it's happening.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You're a little bit more of a heads up, so
I could wear taller socks. But we worked out. You know,
the thing I was scared of was spiders, but we
actually didn't end up encountering people. Always everyone Americans get
very intimidated or there's all this lay about Australia. Everything
in Australia will kill you. But for the most part,
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we're shooting in a metropolitan city. It's not like there
were snakes coming down the street. Although there was one
time when I was shooting apples never fall.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
We went on a hike.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
We went out on a hike. On the drive home,
we're on the highway and all these cars are stopped
and we look up and we're like, what's going on
with this traffic? And across the.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Entire road is this like twenty foot.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Giant ye it was longer than the length of the road.
I thought it was some sort of that.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
If we would have saw that on the wave, we
would not have He.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Would not have that would never. You better be count
your blessings that.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
That was's territory.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah. Another thing in the movie that I felt like
I wanted to know more about. Was it trauma that
sure that your character has that Tim's character has, you know,
we see that plays out a lot and how like
he has medication.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And I would say this is the one place where
we should cut Tim some slack because we're talking about
how he's such a terrible partner. But the truth is
we're meeting him in a really yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Moment without giving too much way. Yes, he's having trauma
based on something that happened to his parents and kind
of his parents having the most extreme codependent relationship where
when one of them dies, the other one literally can't
function when when that partner died. And so that's kind
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of what's really going on internally for this character and
making it why he's so terrified to commit to his
partner because he's like, oh my god, am I going
to end up like my parents, where like if anything
happens to my partner, I become catatonic. I don't know
how to live anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
And also in a way, it's like this thing happened
where he sort of lost both his parents in one
fell swoop, you know, so that that would just it's
so sad.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, that is, and you guys are are sharing stories
in the movie that maybe you've never heard before. I
want to ask you this. I always feel like the
best relationships are two whole people that can function, you know,
very well outside of each other and then come together.
But I've heard people talk about like dependency and how
important that is in a relationship where you're really like
dependent on the other person. And there's also the balance
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of making somebody feel neat they aren't needed, but also
letting them know that because sometimes I feel like we
can tend to try to prove that we can do things.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a nice balance. But I
do agree with what you first said that it's really
nice to find someone who is independent, who isn't fully
leaning on you for everything, And like, I don't know,
I guess I'm just speaking for myself. Like I loved
when when we met and that she was you know,
strong and just you know, really good at what she
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did and she was standing on her own two feet.
That excited me.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
I just was like, what are you familiar with her
work before you got yeah, but yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Speak Yeah, No, I agree, I mean you asked before
like what's the most amount of time that we've spent together.
But then I think about what's the longest that we've
spent a part, which was when I was shooting a
show actually down in Australia, also on the Gold Coast,
And I mean that whole shoot was like five months.
Dave got to come down and visit one time was
his work schedule and he was shooting. So I think
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we went three and a half months apart and then
spent like ten days together and then another so that
I think that was the longest. And it's hard, It's
really hard. But also it is important to your point
that we can stand on our own two feed have
our own independence. We are good. We because we love
what we do. We love doing it together, but we
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also love doing it apart and develop great relationships with
the other people that.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
We work with.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, a lot of people with their partner couldn't imagine
being with them in a day out, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It is nice to miss each other. Yeah, yeah, and
then to kind of have that fun reunion.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Do you feel are they're more? I'm sure there has
got to be more coming together in the future with
you guys. We're always said about it really amazing, like
you both are great at what you do, and then
to be able to be great at what you do
together as a team. But then everybody around you talks
about how pleasant you guys are, because I mean, it's
just an ideal situation. It feels like we Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think for the reason we first started doing it
was to spend time together. And then we realize quickly
quickly that like, oh we're actually we work really well
together and this is the most fun times we ever
have on set. And it's for many reasons, like creatively,
she's so good at what she does, and so she
makes my job easy in that way where it's just
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really easy to play off of her, and then also
just to have that emotional support where like what we
do can be very vulnerable. We can really put ourselves
out on a limb, you know, as we show in
this movie, we are really taking huge swings, and to
be able to kind of turn to each other at
the end of the day and just keep each other
from spinning out mentally and just kind of grounding each other,
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it's invaluable.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
We're working with Dave is such a safe space. Nobody
cares about their projects more than Dave. I have never
worked with someone who, from start to finish, is so invested,
is so passionate, and Dave has great taste. Also, I
just trust him, you know what I mean. I mean
we work the same way. I think that's really helpful.
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But just knowing, Like when I work on something with Dave,
I just know I'm gonna love it. I'm gonna be
proud of the work that we've done because his standards
are so high. And I also just think as we
get older, I mean, this is about working together because
Dave is my favorite person in the world and my
favorite person to work with, but also other friends. I
think more and more we're just always like, can't we
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just work with the people that we like? Can we
know that we like to work with them? There's so
many unknowns in this business. We're always just trying to
work with the same group of people if we can.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I think, more than ever, it really has become a
lot about like, Okay, we should enjoy the process, Like, yes,
we want to make things that are great, but like
I'd rather not work with an asshole, even if they
are the most talented person in the world. I don't
have the time and energy for that anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
And you get to work with your family too. Clearly
like to have a talented family.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I've been so lucky to work with family and friends
for so many years now, and I truly think that's
when I do my my best work because I feel
comfortable with them and I'm like, yes, let's go nuts,
let's see what happens the studio.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I'm thinking about Dave's recent Emmy nomination for his role
on the Studio. You're working with Seth Rogan, Seth and those.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Guys for almost twenty years.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's nice to be in a position where you can
be around the people that you want to work with
instead of having to like, you know, have you ever
had to like work on set and not really liked
Not that you have to name it, but have you
ever been happens?
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, but it is more rare than you think.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
But there are certain people. I feel like the true
nightmare stories are few and far between. But more often
it's people maybe that you just don't connect which with
which is funny. When we're comparing, we'll be like, you know,
I like them overall. The experience was good, but they're
just not my people, you know what I mean, Like
you feel that with friends too, right, Sometimes, like you
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have your friends you've been friends with a long time.
Sometimes you meet a new person you click immediately and
become good friends, and then they try to introduce you
to a friend and you're like.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
It's not really, it's not gonna happen. I can be
cordial and that's not my person. It's not exactly you know,
you and promising young woman. The role that you played
on that was, Yeah, I've watched that movie a couple
of times. Yeah, I thought it was quite interesting. But
your character, but it's it is something. What was her name, Maddie?
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Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Madison Matt Do you know in the original script her
name was Alison. But I was like, yeah, Emerald, the
director was like, I think I'm going to change the
name so people.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Don't couldn't your story.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
I was like, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But your character gives this whole You have a sit
down and you basically blame you know if you victim blame, Yeah,
victim blaming. You know.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
That was one of the most interesting scripts I've ever
read prior to reading together. But Emerald Fanelle's script and
you read it too. We both were like, Wow, this
is so creative the way that she's examining this situation
and kind of you know, the conversation around sexual assault
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and things like that, and it is important in a
story like that. It's interesting how she did such a
good job of sort of it's a weird way to say,
but like lightening it like it's kind of a fun
movie to watch because it's a bit about revenge, but
it's a viller, but it's about a heavy topic. But
it is important to show all sides of that type
of story. So my character really was representative of the
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women who are victim blamers. And a lot of the time,
you know, that might even be because they themselves have
experienced trauma and they it's hard for them to wrap
their head around it. So like there were certain ways,
like with any character that I play, I want to
figure them out and learn how to empathize with them
and kind of see like, oh, this is her way
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of kind of blocking out the things that she has experienced.
That doesn't make it right and it's not okay.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
But it's it really does happen. People really are like
she got drunk, so was her fat? Like she was wearing.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yes, it's it's a terrible side of it, but it
was important to show for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So what was the hardest part of together to make?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
What scene? Was it the one where you guys were
stuck together or did.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
On set?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think the physicality in general, Like we really threw
our bodies around in ways that we've never moved before.
I was sore in places I've never been sore before.
And it was pretty much every single day. And so
like I think about and I say this because it's
in the trailer for a moment, but like there's a
shower scene where I am fully nude, my character is
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unconscious and I'm soaking wet. I'm flinging my limp body
against these porcelain walls and I can't brace myself because
I'm unconscious, and that hurts.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I didn't even think about how much that must We're
just watching it and seeing.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Dave was covered in bruises by the end of the shoot.
We actually have like a collage because I would photograph
my jury. Yeah, we have a collage of all his bruises.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But you know, we every single day we were kind
of looking around at each other, like it feels like
we're getting away with something like we're making we're really
pushing the boundaries and making something that hopefully people have
never seen before. And so our excitement just about the
footage kind of superseded the pain that we were feeling.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The physical side was that double edged sword, where like
it was exhausting, but it was also exhilarating. We like
to do it, and and there was an aspect to
certain scenes in this where like you couldn't even really
do it in rehearsal. It was kind of just like action.
We had to go full force, full energy. So it
was fun just to see see what Dave was gonna do,
see what was going to come out of my weird brain.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
But there's there's there's a scene where not doing anything
to elaborate, but I'm like climbing out of the cave
and it's this very thin rope and I did the
first take and I climbed up as far as I could,
and I came down and I was like, Okay, my
hands are starting to bleed. Yeah, but I got really
high up there and I think it's gonna look good
for the shot. And then the director came over and
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he was like Dave, I'm sorry. One of the crew members, shadows,
got in the shot. So I took a moment. I
was like, okay, let's go again, and so I did
it again, and this time my hands were gushing the
word and for the next week I had bandages all
over my palms. And you don't realize how much you
use your hands until you real until you like.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, no, And you sat this in twenty one days, right,
that's intense. It was very yeah, but it's us that
you got in and out.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's true. It was a sprint where if this was
you know, drawn out over two or three months, I
don't know if we would have survived.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I don't think we would not have been able to
that level. It's true. I think we would have. You know,
we were often we had a lot of different stunt
doubles working on the set. I have this great contortionist
who does some of the freaky stuff that my character
you know, gets into those positions. But often we were
asking the stunt doubles to step aside so we could
just jump in and do it ourselves. I think if
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this were like a three to four month shoot, we
would have been.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Like the stop, where's a stunt done somehow. Yeah, well
you talked about boundaries earlier too. When it comes to
working together and wanting them miss each other. There are
people listening who whatever work they do, they are working
with their significant other. When it comes to establishing boundaries,
what are some of the boundaries that you guys have.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Well, I mean when we were shooting this movie, we
didn't really have boundaries again because it was such a
short schedule, so fal on we were like, let's just
debrief when we are writing together. I do try to
set sort of hours working hours. Dave doesn't always adhere
to my schedule around there that I.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Get very excited about an idea to the point where
I want to write a whole script about it. And
so when I lock into an idea, I can't stop.
You give me a task and I need to keep
going until it's done.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
But like anything in a relationship, everything comes back to communication, right,
Because I can think of a moment even recently when
you were working on your latest script that I wasn't
even writing with you, and I felt like, you know,
there was just a moment where maybe I had to
vocalize and sort of be like I love you. I
love this idea. We need to also take breaks where
we talk about things that are not work and just
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remind each other of that. And of course, you know,
Dave is so receptive. We both I think, are very open,
you know, and honest with each other and also are
never trying to push the other person's boundaries past what
they want. It's nice just we both get excited and
passionate about things, and then you need to kind of
talk openly and be like, Okay, I need a break,
and then respect that boundary.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Then who was the one that started watching Love Island?
I made the other person watch me?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Okay, I would say that's probably the truth of any reality.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
What else do you watch, like Ninety Day Fiance or no, you.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Know, lately, I just watching Oh yeah, I love the
Kardashians and I love Lately I've been watching The Secret
Lives of Mormon Housewives.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Okay, I said to.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Dave, doesn't really watch that with me, but he's caught.
He doesn't try to watch it with me. We sort
of can't certainly get sucked in. Yeah, because it's just
on in the house.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, Well, listen, you guys. I appreciate y'all for coming
through and kind of like I liked this conversation because
I could feel the energy. I feel like just talking
to y'all and then watching the movie is going to
be for everybody that's listening. You know, they haven't had
a chance to see. I saw the screen, but you
know you got to go to the theaters and watch it. Yeah,
it's in theaters actually now, so people can check it out.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
It really is a great time.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
And I love horror movies.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yes, it's a great time on the big screen surrounded
by strangers where every screening we've gone to people are vocal.
You know, they're screaming, they're laughing, they're grabbing the person
next to them.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's fun to see horror in the theater, and especially
this movie was really made to be watched like with
a big audience.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
You know, I saw you guys were also doing a contest.
Oh yeah, can we tell about that?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
People propose at a movie theater and they have to
tag together contest. I think it's hashtag together contest. Neon,
you could win the chance for Neon to pay for
their wedding in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Well a wedding in Vegas. Hey, we could do whatever.
We went at this wedding. But I didn't say all that.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I didn't say all that. You got to read the
fine prints. It's on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I was gonna ask you watching this with your partner,
what was that like? And did you guys have different
kind of takes on it?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Well, okay, I say, because he thinks I'm very like
pro woman all the time, and I am why not? Yeah,
because I was like, I was getting annoyed. I'm not
gonna lie. And I did have some some empathy, you know,
knowing that your character Tim had some trauma. But I
was also annoyed at the fact that, like I felt
like Millie was very nice and like attempting to make
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things work and patience with his character, and there were
certain things that he did that I was just like irritated.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
By, you know what I mean? Definitely, definitely, And I
wonder if.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I got to ask him what his thoughts were. He
was annoyed though, that you dragged her into the cave.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
That's by he wasn't intentional. I was fare to pull myself.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
He was like, bro, come on, you pulled it into
the cave. Like what I was like, Well, she was
trying to help him. I was like I would have left.
I was like, just so you know, had left you
down there and got help. There's no reason for both
of us to be in this cave.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
It's been amazing, though, is kind of the different reactions.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
To the y I didn't like that that same night,
you didn't like get out right away because he felt
like you could have, like there was a storm.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Going on though we were lost in the storm cave.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I'm not spending a night in the cave. I'm sorry
if I said listen, if we fall in a cave
and you're not trying, your heart is to get out
of there a sap. When we get out of here,
it's over.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah. What else was gonna say, though, is it's been
amazing seeing the different reactions, where like you talk to
some people who are single and they watched the movie
and they're like, I am glad I'm single.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
And then you talked to couples and like there was
one couple we talked to who was in a fight
all week and then they saw the movie and it
helped them make up. And so everyone's taking a little different.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
And there's people that want to be in a relationship
and the other person doesn't, and he's They're like, I'm
going to get attached to you forever, sure, and we
won't be able to learn.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Two people came up to us at the premiere after
party and one of them goes, oh my god, I
was sobbing at the end of the movie. I said why,
and she said, because I want a relationship like that,
And the man next to her said, I thought it
was horrifying.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
It's so funny. You're right, everybody's gonna have a different
point of view when it comes.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
How you feel about relationships and monogamy. It's like really
going to reflect it.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Back to you because sometimes when you're like cut it up,
you're like, I can't get any closer than I am
right now, but yes you can.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Maybe that person with you is like, get off, I
can't sleep with you on me like that.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
But again, thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it.
A great movie. I saw already. Some of the reviews
have been rolling in. It feels very positive, so this
must feel good. So congratulations, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You know, and I know separately individually you have amazing
projects that working on writing, but this is you know,
it's just nice to see y'all together working together in
a great horror movie.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Thank you, M.