October 17, 2025 • 23 mins
Dr. Gina Paige Connects Maino & Angela Yee to Their Nigerian Roots | DNA Privacy Matters + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh my goodness, it's way up with Angeleye. It's time
for the big reveal today. I'm here with Mano of course,
and doctor Ginapece, the co founder and president of African Ancestry,
is here. And we have seen your work over the
years on telling We've seen people understanding what their lineage is.
Can you before we get to it, because I mean, man, know,
(00:25):
you waited a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I waited a few more minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Been three years? Two?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Definitely two.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's my fault though. We took these tests like a
long time ago. Yeah, and we wanted to coordinate because
I wanted you to come up here to actually reveal
to us our lineage.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Right, So let me ask you, is this only give
us our African lineage? Just this tell us if we
part you know Latin, if we part like, does it
tell us that too?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So the test you took traces your mother's mother's mother's
mother's mind going back two thousand years. So I'm going
to tell you the ancestry of the four mothers that
came before you, the fathers, the four mothers, I mean
foot all of the mothers that came before you really
and where they were prior to however far back you know,
(01:18):
how far back do you know your mother or your grandmother?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
My mother and my grandmother?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And where was your grandmother from Saint Thomas? Okay, so
before Saint Thomas.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh wow, that's what.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I just think I want to and you know, to
your point, doctor Gina Page, when we went to Saint Thomas,
it actually was very incredible for man to find some
family members that he had never met before. And so
things like this matter a lot, right, Can you can
you talk to us about that?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Absolutely? So there's so little that we do know. So
much was lost when our ancestors were stolen from the continent,
and it was intentional they made. It was absolutely intentional
to disconnect us from everything that makes us who we are.
Our name, as our languages, our families, and even the
ability to honor our ancestors, and so we don't know
(02:09):
even so many of us can't get past our grandmother
or our great grandmother unless you do some geneology research.
But we weren't even recorded as people with names and
families and livelihoods. So when you trace your roots back
to Africa, it's like you're building a bridge between what
you know here or in Saint Thomas and where that
(02:32):
ancestry was before the slave trade. And it's imperative. You
said on the phone, I need to know who I am.
I need to know who I am, and knowing where
you're from is critical to knowing who you are.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I want to also and just so you know, his
brother Mouse is even here. This is the first time
ever come out. So he figures like, you know how
when you're with somebody, you're like, I'm going to let
her get tested in and that's how I know. So
he made any tests so he could figure out his lineage.
But it is a couple more questions before we get
(03:07):
to the big reveal. So there's different types of DNA testing,
but this one, I think what's important because people do
not like the idea that their DNA is being used
or the information for other things, especially right now we're
so cautious of what the government is doing with our information.
So can you just tell us the process and then
(03:29):
what happens with the swabs that we actually sent in
the samples?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I can so African Ancestry is completely different than any
other company in the industry. First of all, we're black
owned and black founded, so a black scientist is behind
this work. We don't we focus on Africa like we
focus on black people. We are here to help black
people transform the way we view ourselves and the way
(03:57):
we view Africa, because that's important too. So we have
two tests. One traces your maternal line, mother to mother
to mother to mother. There's a special part of your
DNA mt DNA that does that. And then the other
test traces father to father to father to father. Only
men or those assigned male or intersects at birth can
(04:18):
take that test. But we didn't send you that test
because thirty five out of one hundred black men get
a European result.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I want, let me get money.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Okay, Well I didn't want to come on here and
tell you that. Yere so that that's why.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We came to me.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I was a white man, okay, Like I would have
had to deal with those repercussions.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, people get very diss they get very disappointed. Listen
and we're just meeting.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, and and for people listening for doctor Jennapas, you've
done a lot of celebrity reveals and they get very emotional.
I mean, Oprah John legends you did Chadwick Bozeman.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Emotional right, as you said, kind of a rice yep.
So I just want to make sure that people understand.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Like that we destroy the DNA. I didn't get to
that part. Nope, it's gone, father. Okay, well you'll have
to do it and do it again because we we're
the only company that destroys it. And that's a relief, yes,
And that's and it should be because we understand the
(05:30):
importance of our the value of our DNA. And other companies,
you know, they cost more, they cost less than ours,
but they use your DNA, they monetize it on the
back end for research and everything else.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
We don't. Services in New York State.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Has minds already and a lot of women.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But that you know, that's the other thing, is that
we when we're born, the hospital has our DNA, when
you give blood, when you do a urine tests, all
when you're in the military. So you know, it's important
to understand what's going to happen with your DNA. But
you shouldn't let fear of what's going to happen to
it be the reason that you don't get very valuable information.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, that I know you're not Okay, I want to
know all right, so a mana will start with you
because you're Yes, I'm so nervous for.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You, okay, m Are we all from Africa?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Absolutely, yeah, So now we'll be able to find out
your tribe.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So we're the only company that can tell you the
country and the ethnic group. So we're not giving you
any percentage. So we found your mother's mother's mother's ancestry
in the country of Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You're Nigeria and okay, and I felt like some energy,
you understand, like when I got that. No, we're Nigerian,
br okay.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But within Nigeria, we found matches with your maternal DNA
in two groups. So what we do is we take
your DNA and then we look for matches other elsewhere
in the world. And we found matches with your people,
your DNA among the Uraba people, okay. And what's interesting
(07:29):
about the Ura but to me, is that they have
this spiritual system that spans three thousand years and it
spans several continents. So there are Euraba communities in Nigeria,
in Brazil, in Cuba, Puerto Rico, here in the United States,
and it's passed through oral traditions, so you're you're a rapper.
(07:55):
It's passed orally, it's not written. So everything about the
religion has passed on that way.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So I'm sorry, just so, Okay, it's Nigerian descent the.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Euraby people living in Nigeria today.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Okay, but that doesn't mean that the people that my
mother's mother's mother's mothers actually came from Nigeria. They could
have been in another part, but of that descent.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, the people who we found matches for with you
have said that they're indigenous to what we call Nigeria today.
So yes, they could have many thousands of years ago,
but today, if you were to go to Nigeria, in theory,
you could find a aura by person that shares your DNA.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And how do we identify a Euraba person?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You could go to south.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How does they have distinct features?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, I don't know that they have distinct features, but
they do have distinct cultural traditions, and so that's what
I wanted to tell you about. But you wouldn't be
able to identify them necessarily by face. You'd have to
travel to where they live in the southwestern part of Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, I'm writing all that down for you.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So one of the things about the Urabi is that
they have this They have this concept of ri and
or re is basically your divine consciousness, okay, and your destiny.
And so they believe that if fate challenges you, aligning
(09:33):
with your ri through discipline and good choices can transform you.
And I feel like that's what you've done with your life.
There's another concept that relates to you called eggbay. And
eggbay is a brotherhood or a collective that shares or
represents a shared purpose. And the Uraba see life as relational,
(09:58):
so that it's important to build community to uplift and
mentor each other, which is what you do with your
your group.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Would that means that his brother and he have right
everybody who do you have any other siblings that you
share your mother the same mother, So.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Your little brother this is for him the same as
for him your mother, your aunts and uncles, your cousins,
your grandmother, her siblings, everybody who is a descendant of
your grandmother and her mother shares the same result. Now,
we also found matches for you among Fulani people, and
(10:41):
they're in Nigeria. Also, the Fulani are no mads so
they've traveled all across Africa from the Sahara to the Sahel.
He travels this brother. Yeah, so as it relates to
you and and my my maternal ancestry is also Fulani,
(11:03):
so becausins now.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Related, we could be cousins.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You can find it all kind of family members which
I love for you.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So they the Fulani have a code of conduct and
dignity that's called Pulacu. And with Pulacu, they emphasize self control, patience, courage,
modesty and respect.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I give you half of those.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And they say that they believe that real power isn't
in revenge but in restraint, and that patience restores your name.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All right, well you have to work on some of that.
Let me alone. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You're welcome, Welcome to the African ancestry. Family. So I
have some gifts for you.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
For three years.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I think we'll have to send maybe you can give
that and it's an exile.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Cool. And then this is your certificate of ancestry that
welcomes you to the African ancestry.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I know that's right. Wow, I'm proud of you, Nigeria.
I'm yeah, you were before.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
A lot of people in Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, what do you think about people that don't
like the term African American? Like I've heard people say, well,
I'm not you know, I'm black and I'm American, but
I'm not African American.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
What would you say to that.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, I say that identity is a constantly evolving narrative
of self and you get to be whoever you want
to be. I'm African American.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm not worried about you and I'm black because I'm
all above you know. Mana was like, well, what if
you find out you're not black? I'm like, we're all
from Africa, like everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, and so black is a social construct anyway, it's
not it's not genetic.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Right right right, Let's see what what?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, let's see what's going on?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Angelina Angela.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Ye, So we traced your mother's mother's mother's people and
how far back can you go with them?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Only my grandparents again, my both of my mom's parents
were from Montserrat in the West Indies.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I love this because a lot of times people ask me, well,
what if what if you're from the.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Islands that we got there exactly?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm like, that's the ship stopped there first. So I
appreciate that you guys are both from the Caribbean, and
you understand.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
O came house. He's excited. All right, all right, I'm
ready for Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So, Angela, we found your maternal ancestry in Nigeria too, Okay, cousin,
I knew it, but it's a totally different tribe. So
your tribe is the Kanuri people, and Kanuri is ka
n u r i. Okay, look that's how you spelled
(14:13):
right here.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh I got my im period.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And so the Kanuri are the descendants of one of
the oldest, most powerful empires in Africa. Yeah, the kanam
bor New Empire, and it lasted from the ninth century
to the nineteenth century, so a very long time. They
(14:40):
practice Islam Sunni Islam, which is the largest branch Lime.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So what I love about the Kanuri is that girls
were taught, so they were educated, They learned the Koran,
and they learned Arabic literacy, and so then they were
able to become teachers and scholars. And in many communities,
the women weren't able allowed to be exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We were bosses back then, exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And then the other thing that's cool about the Canury
women is that they're entrepreneurial. Okay, we like that, yep.
So they're known for economic independence and also craftsmanship Okay,
so things like fabric arts, weaving and dying, trading in
local markets and then home based businesses. So you come
(15:36):
by what you do and the spirit of what you do.
Quite honestly, I like that, and then I wanted to
share with you. There is a very prominent Canuri attorney.
Her name is I'm a butcher it but it's Hawah Ibrahim,
and she's a human rights lawyer. So she defends women
(15:58):
who are acute of crimes and get these extremely severe penalties.
It could be they've killed their child and fanticide but
because of being raped. It could be because of adultery,
and the penalty is death by stoning, and women are
(16:21):
disproportionately punished severe. They're still doing this, they're still doing
any of death by stoning in Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Wow, hitting them with bricks, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So she has been very successful at defending women and
turning some of these practices around so that they're not
killed for things that don't make sense, you know, that
don't require deaths.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Wow. See I like that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
We're bosses. Yep, alright, so Canori. So he has too.
I just have one, right, okay, which is you know, neither.
That's fine exactly. And so you know, I feel like
it's been a long time coming. Yes, even even longer
than you had to wait. I I waited even longer.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It was very important to me, and I'm glad that
Musha connected us. And welcome to the African ancestry. Now
we have some notable other notables who share your ancestry.
So Lenny Green from the pet Storm, okay, he's the
only other person that we found. That's Canury cousin. I'm rare.
(17:33):
And then for you the actor and director Jeffrey Wright. Oh,
he's Europae. Yeah. He was in American fiction, American fiction
most recently, and he's in He's he's in the Denzel.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And oh yeah, okay, And he was in the Broadway play.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Why Am I Favoite? All right, I gotta look it up, right,
was it like top?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And then chef Carla Hall, she's okay, I got her cookbook.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
In the house.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And then I'm your Fulani cousin. But also Anthony Anderson
comedian Anthony Anderson. We traced to the Fulani O.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Let me find out red.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So this this tribe, they still exist right now?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, there's a community here in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
For surely we need a trip to Nigeria. Yeah, that's it.
He was in Top Dog Underdog. That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, yay, what so man?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
No, now that you know this, do you feel different?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I don't feel different. It makes me want to still
complete the search was on my father's side.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay, so that's next.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Unfortunately we destroyed your DNA, so you got to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So two more years we'll be back.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
How long does it really take?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That was my fault.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It was like six weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Results six weeks later and she did. And I will say, so.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You're trying to reach out to us, you couldn't.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Get it right.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, the Canori people are very busy people. You have
to understand where we really have a lot going on.
It's not a lot of us. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But I just want to ask you, like, in your experience,
what have you seen like from after people got their results?
What are some really unique things that you've seen happen afterwards?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
People have written plays, they've written books. They've traveled. Of
course that's not that's not unique. But when traveling they've
started philanthropic organizations in the countries that they share ancestry with.
Some people have lobbied Congress on behalf of the countries
that they share ancestry with. My favorite thing is when
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parents do it for their children, because our kids are
educated in these multicultural environments where the schools are insensitive.
They'll say we're going to have an ancestry day, and
then the black kids are like, what am I supposed
to say? You know, a parent or grab some can't
take cloth, and that's cool. But when the kids no, no,
(20:26):
you can just see it on their faces. They have
this same sense of pride that an adult has. So
there are all sorts of things that people do and
you know, share it with their families because it's not
just for you, for everybody who came before you and
who will come after you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm so excited. So look, you know my dad is Chinese.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Now I wonder if I try to do that, would
I be able to trace anything from that?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So you can't? I think that's me. You can't trace
your You have to be a man.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But you did say that that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And we wouldn't even really recommend it because you already
know what it is. Yeah, so if you took one
of those other kinds of tests where they did percentages,
then that would show up, but we don't. We don't have.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Now, well, this is exciting.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, I'm so appreciative that we made this happen, and
they thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I feel like, now I have.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
To do some research because I've never even heard of
the Canary tribe. I've heard of the Yoruba, Yeah you heard.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I feel like that's pretty popular us.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, I've heard of you yeah at any rate. So
this is definitely something that I feel like I'm excited
to research.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So thank you so much. It feels good.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But it is like a different type of sense of
like being able to know that and let people know.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
You want to know where you're from. You want to
know you know your roots, answer your ancestry, where you come.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
From, and especially with things being a race that they
are the way that they are today, our history like
it doesn't matter. I was looking at this converse where
somebody was talking about if it wasn't for slavery, y'all
would be living in Hutson like what like it's so infuriating,
but at the same time, like you never could let
people infuriate you to the point where you're angry and
(22:13):
feel stagnant. It's just really like something that has to
fuel you to make sure that you know, we're outside
like doing the things that we need to do with
each other, for each other, like uplifting each other and
ourselves too, because that's what people want, They want to
like squash their whole.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And that's why when you find when you know who
you are, you stand taller and your roots now you
have some roots that you're aware of and so the
wind doesn't blow you any all kind of way. People
saying stuff about your people would have been in Hudson
doesn't phase you because you know that that's ignorant. Everything
that we use and know today comes from Africa.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And I love it. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And how can people also if they want to find
out their African ancestry, how do they do that?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
We're online at africanancestry dot com and we're on all
the socials at African Ancestry.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
All right, and it will take you six weeks. I
know it took me a long time, but that was
my fault. Thank you, Mischi that we appreciate you, and
thank you so much, Doctor Jena Page. I feel good.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Today, good, good good.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm glad it's way up.
Oh my goodness, it's way up with Angeleye. It's time
for the big reveal today. I'm here with Mano of course,
and doctor Ginapece, the co founder and president of African Ancestry,
is here. And we have seen your work over the
years on telling We've seen people understanding what their lineage is.
Can you before we get to it, because I mean, man, know,
(00:25):
you waited a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I waited a few more minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Been three years? Two?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Definitely two.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's my fault though. We took these tests like a
long time ago. Yeah, and we wanted to coordinate because
I wanted you to come up here to actually reveal
to us our lineage.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Right, So let me ask you, is this only give
us our African lineage? Just this tell us if we
part you know Latin, if we part like, does it
tell us that too?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So the test you took traces your mother's mother's mother's
mother's mind going back two thousand years. So I'm going
to tell you the ancestry of the four mothers that
came before you, the fathers, the four mothers, I mean
foot all of the mothers that came before you really
and where they were prior to however far back you know,
(01:18):
how far back do you know your mother or your grandmother?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
My mother and my grandmother?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And where was your grandmother from Saint Thomas? Okay, so
before Saint Thomas.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh wow, that's what.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I just think I want to and you know, to
your point, doctor Gina Page, when we went to Saint Thomas,
it actually was very incredible for man to find some
family members that he had never met before. And so
things like this matter a lot, right, Can you can
you talk to us about that?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Absolutely? So there's so little that we do know. So
much was lost when our ancestors were stolen from the continent,
and it was intentional they made. It was absolutely intentional
to disconnect us from everything that makes us who we are.
Our name, as our languages, our families, and even the
ability to honor our ancestors, and so we don't know
(02:09):
even so many of us can't get past our grandmother
or our great grandmother unless you do some geneology research.
But we weren't even recorded as people with names and
families and livelihoods. So when you trace your roots back
to Africa, it's like you're building a bridge between what
you know here or in Saint Thomas and where that
(02:32):
ancestry was before the slave trade. And it's imperative. You
said on the phone, I need to know who I am.
I need to know who I am, and knowing where
you're from is critical to knowing who you are.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I want to also and just so you know, his
brother Mouse is even here. This is the first time
ever come out. So he figures like, you know how
when you're with somebody, you're like, I'm going to let
her get tested in and that's how I know. So
he made any tests so he could figure out his lineage.
But it is a couple more questions before we get
(03:07):
to the big reveal. So there's different types of DNA testing,
but this one, I think what's important because people do
not like the idea that their DNA is being used
or the information for other things, especially right now we're
so cautious of what the government is doing with our information.
So can you just tell us the process and then
(03:29):
what happens with the swabs that we actually sent in
the samples?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I can so African Ancestry is completely different than any
other company in the industry. First of all, we're black
owned and black founded, so a black scientist is behind
this work. We don't we focus on Africa like we
focus on black people. We are here to help black
people transform the way we view ourselves and the way
(03:57):
we view Africa, because that's important too. So we have
two tests. One traces your maternal line, mother to mother
to mother to mother. There's a special part of your
DNA mt DNA that does that. And then the other
test traces father to father to father to father. Only
men or those assigned male or intersects at birth can
(04:18):
take that test. But we didn't send you that test
because thirty five out of one hundred black men get
a European result.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I want, let me get money.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Okay, Well I didn't want to come on here and
tell you that. Yere so that that's why.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
We came to me.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I was a white man, okay, Like I would have
had to deal with those repercussions.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, people get very diss they get very disappointed. Listen
and we're just meeting.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yes, and and for people listening for doctor Jennapas, you've
done a lot of celebrity reveals and they get very emotional.
I mean, Oprah John legends you did Chadwick Bozeman.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Emotional right, as you said, kind of a rice yep.
So I just want to make sure that people understand.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Like that we destroy the DNA. I didn't get to
that part. Nope, it's gone, father. Okay, well you'll have
to do it and do it again because we we're
the only company that destroys it. And that's a relief, yes,
And that's and it should be because we understand the
(05:30):
importance of our the value of our DNA. And other companies,
you know, they cost more, they cost less than ours,
but they use your DNA, they monetize it on the
back end for research and everything else.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
We don't. Services in New York State.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Has minds already and a lot of women.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But that you know, that's the other thing, is that
we when we're born, the hospital has our DNA, when
you give blood, when you do a urine tests, all
when you're in the military. So you know, it's important
to understand what's going to happen with your DNA. But
you shouldn't let fear of what's going to happen to
it be the reason that you don't get very valuable information.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Okay, that I know you're not Okay, I want to
know all right, so a mana will start with you
because you're Yes, I'm so nervous for.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You, okay, m Are we all from Africa?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Absolutely, yeah, So now we'll be able to find out
your tribe.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
So we're the only company that can tell you the
country and the ethnic group. So we're not giving you
any percentage. So we found your mother's mother's mother's ancestry
in the country of Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You're Nigeria and okay, and I felt like some energy,
you understand, like when I got that. No, we're Nigerian,
br okay.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
But within Nigeria, we found matches with your maternal DNA
in two groups. So what we do is we take
your DNA and then we look for matches other elsewhere
in the world. And we found matches with your people,
your DNA among the Uraba people, okay. And what's interesting
(07:29):
about the Ura but to me, is that they have
this spiritual system that spans three thousand years and it
spans several continents. So there are Euraba communities in Nigeria,
in Brazil, in Cuba, Puerto Rico, here in the United States,
and it's passed through oral traditions, so you're you're a rapper.
(07:55):
It's passed orally, it's not written. So everything about the
religion has passed on that way.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So I'm sorry, just so, Okay, it's Nigerian descent the.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Euraby people living in Nigeria today.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Okay, but that doesn't mean that the people that my
mother's mother's mother's mothers actually came from Nigeria. They could
have been in another part, but of that descent.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, the people who we found matches for with you
have said that they're indigenous to what we call Nigeria today.
So yes, they could have many thousands of years ago,
but today, if you were to go to Nigeria, in theory,
you could find a aura by person that shares your DNA.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
And how do we identify a Euraba person?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You could go to south.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
How does they have distinct features?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, I don't know that they have distinct features, but
they do have distinct cultural traditions, and so that's what
I wanted to tell you about. But you wouldn't be
able to identify them necessarily by face. You'd have to
travel to where they live in the southwestern part of Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, I'm writing all that down for you.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So one of the things about the Urabi is that
they have this They have this concept of ri and
or re is basically your divine consciousness, okay, and your destiny.
And so they believe that if fate challenges you, aligning
(09:33):
with your ri through discipline and good choices can transform you.
And I feel like that's what you've done with your life.
There's another concept that relates to you called eggbay. And
eggbay is a brotherhood or a collective that shares or
represents a shared purpose. And the Uraba see life as relational,
(09:58):
so that it's important to build community to uplift and
mentor each other, which is what you do with your
your group.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Would that means that his brother and he have right
everybody who do you have any other siblings that you
share your mother the same mother, So.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Your little brother this is for him the same as
for him your mother, your aunts and uncles, your cousins,
your grandmother, her siblings, everybody who is a descendant of
your grandmother and her mother shares the same result. Now,
we also found matches for you among Fulani people, and
(10:41):
they're in Nigeria. Also, the Fulani are no mads so
they've traveled all across Africa from the Sahara to the Sahel.
He travels this brother. Yeah, so as it relates to
you and and my my maternal ancestry is also Fulani,
(11:03):
so becausins now.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Related, we could be cousins.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You can find it all kind of family members which
I love for you.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So they the Fulani have a code of conduct and
dignity that's called Pulacu. And with Pulacu, they emphasize self control, patience, courage,
modesty and respect.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I give you half of those.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And they say that they believe that real power isn't
in revenge but in restraint, and that patience restores your name.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
All right, well you have to work on some of that.
Let me alone. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
You're welcome, Welcome to the African ancestry. Family. So I
have some gifts for you.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
For three years.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I think we'll have to send maybe you can give
that and it's an exile.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Cool. And then this is your certificate of ancestry that
welcomes you to the African ancestry.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I know that's right. Wow, I'm proud of you, Nigeria.
I'm yeah, you were before.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
A lot of people in Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You know, what do you think about people that don't
like the term African American? Like I've heard people say, well,
I'm not you know, I'm black and I'm American, but
I'm not African American.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
What would you say to that.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well, I say that identity is a constantly evolving narrative
of self and you get to be whoever you want
to be. I'm African American.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm not worried about you and I'm black because I'm
all above you know. Mana was like, well, what if
you find out you're not black? I'm like, we're all
from Africa, like everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yeah, and so black is a social construct anyway, it's
not it's not genetic.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Right right right, Let's see what what?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, let's see what's going on?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Angelina Angela.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Ye, So we traced your mother's mother's mother's people and
how far back can you go with them?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Only my grandparents again, my both of my mom's parents
were from Montserrat in the West Indies.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I love this because a lot of times people ask me, well,
what if what if you're from the.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Islands that we got there exactly?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm like, that's the ship stopped there first. So I
appreciate that you guys are both from the Caribbean, and
you understand.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
O came house. He's excited. All right, all right, I'm
ready for Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
So, Angela, we found your maternal ancestry in Nigeria too, Okay, cousin,
I knew it, but it's a totally different tribe. So
your tribe is the Kanuri people, and Kanuri is ka
n u r i. Okay, look that's how you spelled
(14:13):
right here.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Oh I got my im period.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
And so the Kanuri are the descendants of one of
the oldest, most powerful empires in Africa. Yeah, the kanam
bor New Empire, and it lasted from the ninth century
to the nineteenth century, so a very long time. They
(14:40):
practice Islam Sunni Islam, which is the largest branch Lime.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So what I love about the Kanuri is that girls
were taught, so they were educated, They learned the Koran,
and they learned Arabic literacy, and so then they were
able to become teachers and scholars. And in many communities,
the women weren't able allowed to be exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We were bosses back then, exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And then the other thing that's cool about the Canury
women is that they're entrepreneurial. Okay, we like that, yep.
So they're known for economic independence and also craftsmanship Okay,
so things like fabric arts, weaving and dying, trading in
local markets and then home based businesses. So you come
(15:36):
by what you do and the spirit of what you do.
Quite honestly, I like that, and then I wanted to
share with you. There is a very prominent Canuri attorney.
Her name is I'm a butcher it but it's Hawah Ibrahim,
and she's a human rights lawyer. So she defends women
(15:58):
who are acute of crimes and get these extremely severe penalties.
It could be they've killed their child and fanticide but
because of being raped. It could be because of adultery,
and the penalty is death by stoning, and women are
(16:21):
disproportionately punished severe. They're still doing this, they're still doing
any of death by stoning in Nigeria.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Wow, hitting them with bricks, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So she has been very successful at defending women and
turning some of these practices around so that they're not
killed for things that don't make sense, you know, that
don't require deaths.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Wow. See I like that.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
We're bosses. Yep, alright, so Canori. So he has too.
I just have one, right, okay, which is you know, neither.
That's fine exactly. And so you know, I feel like
it's been a long time coming. Yes, even even longer
than you had to wait. I I waited even longer.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It was very important to me, and I'm glad that
Musha connected us. And welcome to the African ancestry. Now
we have some notable other notables who share your ancestry.
So Lenny Green from the pet Storm, okay, he's the
only other person that we found. That's Canury cousin. I'm rare.
(17:33):
And then for you the actor and director Jeffrey Wright. Oh,
he's Europae. Yeah. He was in American fiction, American fiction
most recently, and he's in He's he's in the Denzel.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And oh yeah, okay, And he was in the Broadway play.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Why Am I Favoite? All right, I gotta look it up, right,
was it like top?
Speaker 3 (18:04):
And then chef Carla Hall, she's okay, I got her cookbook.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
In the house.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And then I'm your Fulani cousin. But also Anthony Anderson
comedian Anthony Anderson. We traced to the Fulani O.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Let me find out red.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So this this tribe, they still exist right now?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, there's a community here in New York.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
For surely we need a trip to Nigeria. Yeah, that's it.
He was in Top Dog Underdog. That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Okay, yay, what so man?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
No, now that you know this, do you feel different?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
I don't feel different. It makes me want to still
complete the search was on my father's side.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Okay, so that's next.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Unfortunately we destroyed your DNA, so you got to do
it again.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
So two more years we'll be back.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
How long does it really take?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That was my fault.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
It was like six weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Results six weeks later and she did. And I will say, so.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You're trying to reach out to us, you couldn't.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Get it right.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Well, the Canori people are very busy people. You have
to understand where we really have a lot going on.
It's not a lot of us. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But I just want to ask you, like, in your experience,
what have you seen like from after people got their results?
What are some really unique things that you've seen happen afterwards?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
People have written plays, they've written books. They've traveled. Of
course that's not that's not unique. But when traveling they've
started philanthropic organizations in the countries that they share ancestry with.
Some people have lobbied Congress on behalf of the countries
that they share ancestry with. My favorite thing is when
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parents do it for their children, because our kids are
educated in these multicultural environments where the schools are insensitive.
They'll say we're going to have an ancestry day, and
then the black kids are like, what am I supposed
to say? You know, a parent or grab some can't
take cloth, and that's cool. But when the kids no, no,
(20:26):
you can just see it on their faces. They have
this same sense of pride that an adult has. So
there are all sorts of things that people do and
you know, share it with their families because it's not
just for you, for everybody who came before you and
who will come after you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm so excited. So look, you know my dad is Chinese.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Now I wonder if I try to do that, would
I be able to trace anything from that?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
So you can't? I think that's me. You can't trace
your You have to be a man.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But you did say that that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And we wouldn't even really recommend it because you already
know what it is. Yeah, so if you took one
of those other kinds of tests where they did percentages,
then that would show up, but we don't. We don't have.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Now, well, this is exciting.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, I'm so appreciative that we made this happen, and
they thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I feel like, now I have.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
To do some research because I've never even heard of
the Canary tribe. I've heard of the Yoruba, Yeah you heard.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I feel like that's pretty popular us.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, I've heard of you yeah at any rate. So
this is definitely something that I feel like I'm excited
to research.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So thank you so much. It feels good.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But it is like a different type of sense of
like being able to know that and let people know.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
You want to know where you're from. You want to
know you know your roots, answer your ancestry, where you come.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
From, and especially with things being a race that they
are the way that they are today, our history like
it doesn't matter. I was looking at this converse where
somebody was talking about if it wasn't for slavery, y'all
would be living in Hutson like what like it's so infuriating,
but at the same time, like you never could let
people infuriate you to the point where you're angry and
(22:13):
feel stagnant. It's just really like something that has to
fuel you to make sure that you know, we're outside
like doing the things that we need to do with
each other, for each other, like uplifting each other and
ourselves too, because that's what people want, They want to
like squash their whole.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
And that's why when you find when you know who
you are, you stand taller and your roots now you
have some roots that you're aware of and so the
wind doesn't blow you any all kind of way. People
saying stuff about your people would have been in Hudson
doesn't phase you because you know that that's ignorant. Everything
that we use and know today comes from Africa.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And I love it. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And how can people also if they want to find
out their African ancestry, how do they do that?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
We're online at africanancestry dot com and we're on all
the socials at African Ancestry.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
All right, and it will take you six weeks. I
know it took me a long time, but that was
my fault. Thank you, Mischi that we appreciate you, and
thank you so much, Doctor Jena Page. I feel good.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Today, good, good good.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm glad it's way up.
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