FULL INTERVIEW: Adrian Marcel On The Evolution Of R&B, Career Setbacks, Personal Triumphs, + More

Adrian Marcel On The Evolution Of R&B, Career Setbacks, Personal Triumphs, + More 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Its way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and
I am here today with somebody who I personally really like,
a J and Marcella is in the building. What's happening
tiers to you? To you, we were talking about the
last time you were in New York, and then I
was talking about the last time which was a while ago,
that I was in the Bay and we did lip
Service live, and I was saying, we had cookie money,
we had filthy rich. Of course I have my guy

(00:26):
missed the fab and it was a definite culture you
was having.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You was having the Pimp Chronicles series.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Huh okay, yeah, but I did go to the store
because you know, I wear my Yee hoodie all the
time because my last name is Yee.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
And you go and you was in the land of Ye.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I was hyphe for he was okay, But yes, we
had a good time.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
But you know, this album is R.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
And Bay R and based season, So what is exactly
R and BA.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's a little different than R and B.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
It's a little different from R and B, you know
what I mean. I feel like everywhere around the world,
you know, they're they're the way they are and B.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know what I'm saying. If you even hear New
York has a way that they are and B. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Chicago has a way of R and B l A Atlanta,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
And me and.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Sonny B, you know, my partner in crime with this.
You know, we sat back and wanted to figure out
what what is the way to Bay?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
There's R and B. You know what I'm saying. And
you just said it earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
You know what I'm saying, Like, look y'all talk different, y'all,
y'all move different. You feel me, especially how y'all y'all
take on women and everything the whole get down. So
you know, it's it's a blend of hyphi. It's a
blend of traditional R and B. You know what I'm saying.
But it's the lyrics, it's raw, the lingo. You know
what I'm saying. You feel me, ao B if you know,

(01:40):
you know you know what I'm saying. But it's it's
it's just our culture.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
What does aob stand for?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
If I if.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
I'm gonna be you know, you know more simple about it,
you know, all on the all on the baddy you
know what I'm saying, But yeah, all the bitch feel
I'm trying to be polite because she just said she
don't want to hear too many bitches.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
But you know it's all on the bitch.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
You feel when I was in when I was in
the Bay and they were like bitch, bitch, bit and
I'm like, okay, guys, enough.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
With the you know, I don't want to be one
of these bitches now please.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
But then I also feel like you do have to
understand like culturally what people how they speak, and the
lingo and what it's like when you go to different areas.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Got to understand like the women in the Bay, man,
they not like everywhere else. You know what I'm saying,
You'll have the prettiest the prettiest women and they will,
you know what I'm saying, go stupid on you. You know
what I'm saying, Go get just as Haifi. You know
what I'm saying. So again, like the way we love
is different. You know, if you're not from there, if
you don't understand the culture and you walk up on
you know what I mean, two people having a conversation,

(02:42):
you know, you you might think this Nigga's being disrespectful.
You might you know what I'm saying, But it's it's
just the way we love, you feel me. We were
just talking about it, you know what I'm saying. We
got a song where you feel me. We we mentioned,
you know, bitches about the pound. You know what I'm saying,
you know, But at the same time, in the same breath,
it's like you talking to the person you love, like, look,
I didn't been around town fucking around like I have

(03:03):
bitches by the pound, but they still not adding up
to you and to somebody in the bay, they gonna
be like, Okay, keep going, keep going. That's so sweet.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's the sweetest thing I've ever heard. Tell me more
you feel me. So it's it's again, It's just it's
just our culture. It's the way that we love.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
It's the way that we speak and talk, and we're
putting our culture into the music.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know. I feel like you know R and B.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Needs it's it's free for you to keep refreshing it
and giving your own perspectives of it, you know what
I'm saying. So for us, we felt like we've been
missing more of that male representation for R and B
in the Bay you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
You got the women who holding it down.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
You got the Klanis, the Hers, the Keisha Coles, the
Jane Hancocks. Man, you know, I mean, it's so many
out there doing it, and for us, it's like, man,
we want to bring more light to the mail R
and B that comes from the Bay Area and we
want to stamp it.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
You know, it started with the Jay Valentines. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
You had you had I said, you pulled up on
them on their show to come on.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
That's my boy, man, that's that's big bruh.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
You feel me him in tank and it's really dope
to get the stamp from him because he's kind of
the first person to use the term, you know, and
show respect that. At the same time, like me and SB,
you know, we're looking at it like it's time to.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Take it further. Though. We've had moments where you've heard
R and B. You've heard you know, I just want
to fuck you right here. You feel me. You've heard
I can't stand you, bitch. You know what I'm saying.
You've heard these these R and B moments. You feel me.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
But now it's like, nah, we taking it to the
next level. We got two hundred and fifty plus and
we're saying, here go the first six for you to
get a customers.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
You said you're doing three EPs.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right on the three EPs, that's that come into an album.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
You know, just so that you know how how people
digest music is a lot different now. You know, it
can come and go very fast, but at the same time,
you can get left behind if you move into slow.
So it's just that medium of just saying, hey, we
have all these records. We're not finna sit on them,
you know what I mean, because we don't have to,
But at the same time, we want to make sure
you get it in pieces feed Yeah, digestic, you coming back.

(05:06):
I don't want to give you everything because you're gonna
be full, you know what I mean. So it's just
I want to start, but I want you to do
exactly Hello.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Hello, come on.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, let's flash back now since we're you know, since
we're doing all this, let's flash back to when we
first met, because that was when you first signed your
deal Republic. Yeah, yeah, at Republic, and I'll never forget
because it was such an amazing performance and experience.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
It was a rooftop party.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, and I actually hosted you know that event and
they were like, we believe we had this new artist
and we want you to come and you know whatever,
and it was I was like, he's amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh man, I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's always show. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
So it's interesting when I see articles that will be
like Rising R and B Star and I'm like, he's
been out.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
No let him say that it's all good.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I want to know what that's like for you, because
that's been like, you know, over ten years.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's I look at
it like a blessing.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Man. It's dope that that you can still be here
after ten years and for them to still look at
you like.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Fresh, you know, rising, you know what I mean, That's
that's dope. You know, because some.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
People they could be saying washed up, they could be
saying they could be saying, oh, do you feel me outdated?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Whatever?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
You know what I'm saying, but irrelevant exactly who is
this nigga?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
But you know, for me, it's dope because you know,
coming from the labels, I got to learn a lot.
I got to see how the business goes I got
to see how they work, the good and the bad
and the ugly. You know, a lot of people don't
leave that situation and get the opportunity to rebuild themselves,
you know what I mean, and come back better. You know,
when I'm me at Sonny b in twenty twenty, you know,

(06:44):
it was me coming off of the COVID thing, you
know what I'm saying, really taking a step back before that,
trying to figure out who I wanted to be as
an artist independently, how to go about that, the struggles
of learning that, you know what I'm saying. But it
was like taking that step back and saying, all right,

(07:05):
hold on, I'm I need to completely recalibrate, completely revamp,
you know what I'm saying, what it is I'm looking
to do. And we had that conversation like it's it
can't be about Adrian Marcel trying to come back. It
had to be more about like putting the bay on.
It had to be about what was the foundation, why

(07:25):
you feel me? And that's where the R and BA
came into play. You know, It's like we have to
we want to create something for the soil, you know
what I mean. So if it was just about Adrian
Marcell coming back. Then we'd be focused on just making
one record, trying to blow it up, you know what
I'm saying. For us, it became about, no, we need
a new catalog. We need to create a new universe.

(07:48):
That is Adrian Marcel, that is R and Bay, that
is the Bay Area sound you feel me.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So it's dope that I had that ability.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I had the people that would that that were placed
in front of me to help me build that. My
team is incredible.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I sawing every win, which every win, that's always my thing.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
You see, nothing happened.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's like, hey, but you learn in this business, in
the industry, you get taught to like not celebrate small
wins because you know what I'm saying. It's like, at
least for me, little things was like, man, we ain't
dot none of yet. No, you can't celebrate that. That's
nothing for me. But it's like, na, it's something a
lot of people don't get to accomplish it in this business.

(08:34):
You know, it takes a lot to see through the concrete,
you know what I mean. So for us to be
able to have little wins, oh Billboard talking about me again.
You know what I'm saying, or you know, we on
the way up, you know what I'm saying, Like we
we Angela yee Is is just chopping it up with it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Man.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
That's that's big wins for somebody who is independent, who's
already had a shot, and it's able to come back
and say, Okay, I can look brand new though.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Ye know I'm I mean because honestly, like you've always
had solid projects. It to sound that I like, and
initially you had to stamp from Raphaelsa D two. I
always have been a big fan of you know as well.
So but that's a lot because I think early on too,
you really burst it out.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Man, sometimes that's.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Hard, that's scary, that's scary. You have to really keep
that up, you know what i mean. Like people don't
realize like I've always I've always respected artists.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Like like you think about Mary J.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Blige, like somebody like her, she didn't just come out
the gate and just kill you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's like every.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Project, every album got better and better and better, and
you got to and you got to grow with her,
you know what I'm saying, to where she's this legend,
you know, what I'm saying even to Tony, Tony, Tony
is the same thing, you know what I'm saying. Every
time they dropped, it got better and better. And so
for me, it's like to come out, you have these
big stamps, you're on one of the biggest labels that
it is to be.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
On, and you know it, it just pops. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Man, it's like it's just going you feel me? And again,
that could really fuck up an artist mental, you know
what I'm saying. To go from that to now, people
ain't answering the phone now, they're not fucking with you
like that, you know what I'm saying. So for me,
it really took a lot of me being like, man,
I got to get back to my confidence, get back
to the whole reason I even got there in the

(10:17):
first place.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, So why do you think that that?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Because it felt like you had such great momentum, right,
and so what do you think happened? I saw you
put out a tweet the other day, Uh huh. You said,
don't be the wall that blocks your blessing. And sometimes
when you look back at a time like that and
you reflect, do you feel like circumstances, do you feel
like it was you? Maybe do you think it was
a label? Like, what do you think happened?

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I mean, I'm always people. I'm gonna always take accountability
in some form or fashion. You know what I'm saying.
I don't run from accountability. So you know, I'm sure
that there were parts in it that play. Maybe it
was that not speaking up enough, Maybe it was speaking
up too much, you know what I'm saying. I feel
like in those situations, man, you know, you have this label,
who's bringing in all these producers, They're bringing in all

(11:01):
these writers. You know, you have to understand at that moment,
if you're not writing the songs, then you subjective to
the game.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
You subjective to them saying.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Oh, well, we don't want by this record, you know
what I'm saying, because they charging X, Y and Z
for that. I don't want to pay for that. So
we're gonna keep looking, you know what I'm saying. That's
and then somebody else get.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
It and it's a hit and you're like, damn, I
told damn, I told you.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
You know what I'm saying. You feel me.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
So it's moments like that, I feel like my team
at that time was we were still brand new. We're
still trying to figure things out. We're still trying to
not be the the hard to work with artists, you
know team. So it's like some things, you know, they
pushing at us. We like, we really don't want to
do that. But if I don't, you know, you're worried
about getting shelved, you know what I mean. It's all

(11:47):
of these different things that you have to think about.
And there was a lot of momentum for me to
am got to like number four on the charts, you
know what I'm saying, and then.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
To sit back, it's still going.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
It still do about life six seven hundred thousands of
every seven days.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
So it's like, okay, you have this record, like we
should be thinking about the next one, you know what
I'm saying, Like let's get that one out at that
time though, you know, just being real, like the game
switched in the industry, if you're if you're on these labels,
you're always gonna.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Be subjective to the loop.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's like every now and then they want real, they
want the real, and then every now and then they
want the they want the money. You know what I'm saying,
so Gaultier drops somebody that I used to know, Lord
drops Royals, It's like, oh, let's fire the whole urban
department and let's drop all the urban artists and let's
focus on this, you know what I'm saying. So I

(12:46):
just had to respect the fact that, man, they didn't
shell me, they actually let me go, right, That's that's rare.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
How was that mentally though?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Too, because sometimes saying that you got dropped it's not
a good feeling. It's like having to let people know
I got laid off of my Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
It happens. Sometimes it's a blessing.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
But in the time that it's happening, yeah, it's also
like now you're reading like yeah Billboard, Like.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
No, I have people around me.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
That was definitely like, you know, you need to keep
that Republic stamp up there on your Instagram, like you
know what I'm saying, Like I don't, but I can't
even get in the building no more.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You feel me, so like what is we rocking it for?
You know? I guess I'm just I've.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Never been ashamed of what I'm going through in life.
You know what I'm saying, You got to accept it.
You gotta sit in your ship.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
But sometimes when it's happening, it's not.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
It is hard.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
But I feel like because what I was going through,
like at that time, we were on our third record
that was being turned down, you know what I'm saying.
So it was like and these were and some of
those records they were actually bringing in. It was like, Okay,
let's do this one. Okay, let's record it boom, knock
it out. And then next thing, you know, it's like
you don't feel like paying for that, you know what
I'm saying. So it's like, damn, okay, so this is

(13:57):
the third record we own. I get the call that
they finally gonna let.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Us pick the record. We had a record.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
It's like, all right, cool, this is I feel like
this could be something. All I knew is was finna
We was finna drop it. Next thing I know, I
get the call like, hey, we're just gonna be real.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
We really just don't know how to market you.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Damn like you feel me, and but we know that
you're talented, we know that you make good music. We
know that you you know, have a lot of potential.
So we just gonna let you go and let you
do your thing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
So, and it's happened to some of the best artists.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
And that's all that I thought of in that moment.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
You think about Alicia Keys, you know jay Z.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
You think about all these people that were turned down,
that was turned.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Away, went somewhere else and blew up.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Everything happens for a reason, and everything don't happen for
a reason. So you it's all about how you want
to look at it.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Everything.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
For me, I'm always find a silver lining, you know
what I'm saying, Like, oh, y'all letting me go, so
that means I get to finally do what I really
want to do. And I'm not afraid of hard work.
So if that means, I mean we were already doing it.
Everything that the label had me doing.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
It was because we put it together.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
We shot our own videos, were we were putting the
teams together to bring the music there to them, you
know what I'm saying, and at the same time allowing
them to say, look what we did, right, you feel
me it's.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Like credit take it.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
And it's hard too sometimes because you're doing all this
work behind the scenes, and you know, obviously sometimes when
you reach out to people, and it's you know, through
a label. If they reach out, it's a budget and
budget for more. You're independent. People work with you because
they already would like you. Feel like you're talented, and
people do things that they want to do. Sometimes it's
not always about money, but when the label costs.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's money. Cut the check, cut the check.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
You you got a label behind it. Oh yeah, I
need my I need my quote. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I want my quote for it.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
You feel me? And again it's understandable, you go through it.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
I told myself before I signed my deal, I said,
if I wanted to be a lawyer, if I want
to to be a doctor, anything of some real substance,
the minimum amount of years I would have to spend
in college was six.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
So this is a five year contract. If it all
goes to Shito. The only thing I can walk away
from this is that I have a PhD.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
And how they act and how this shit go. You
feel me?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
And that's a come on, come on run it here,
run it.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
You feel me? Go ahead, So you feel me? So
after I walked.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Away, man, we me and Sonny Be just talked about
this last night. It was probably the best thing that
could have happened to me. It was almost like God
was showing me here, this is what can happen.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is this is how quickly I could do it
until contract come on, this is how quickly I can
do it.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
I had anxiety certain days thinking of what was going
to happen, and now I'm literally going through life Angela
free feeling good as shit. Man Like, everything we do
is what we want to do. We don't trip on
forcing nothing, we don't trip on what doesn't go through
or nothing like that, because it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
I told people a long time ago, like three years ago,
I said, look, we're not living on hope no more.
You feel me when you're on the label, you're living
on hope. You like, I hope they picked this record.
I hope they put this out. I hope this goes. No,
we ain't living on hope no more. We make it's
gonna we make it happen.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
You know, it is a lot easier I think now,
because before you kind of have to have a label.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
How am I going to get distribution? How am I
going to have marketing?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
How do I get to these DJs, these radio stations,
how do I get booked for shows? But now the
playing field has been leveled with their access.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Everybody is doing side hustles. You got if you got
a contact to somebody that's at the label, they they
going through it so they like, look I could do that.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I can put you in, you feel me.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
So if it's really all about who you connect with,
you know what I'm saying, Like what resources can you
put together? And how will are you to put the
work in to get it? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
So it's like how badly do you want it? Like
I'm up.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
We up twelve hour shifts, you know what I'm saying,
making the music. We on every Monday Wednesday team meetings
for three four hours, figuring out who needs to do what,
how we gonna get this done?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
What haven't we done? Taking accountability? You feel me.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
It's like there's all of these different steps that it takes.
And with that, as you start moving forward, man, the
universe is gonna start putting these things in your way,
like oh y'all doing it without this?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay? Here let me oh, here come this person.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Like hey, I just got laid off I'm ready to
work or hey, you know what I'm saying, I see
you doing this?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
What's up? Da da da da dada.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
It's if things start happening, man, but it's like, you
gotta have an unwavering faith to do this.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, aside from that, while this was all happening in
your personal life, let's talk about that, because when when
did you get married?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
I got married twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Okay, so twenty seventeen. So how long were you guys
together before that?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Fifteen years?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
So at least this whole time you had somebody in
your corner.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Luckily they stayed in my corner, man. Luckily they stayed
in my corner. I just put them through the ship.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So the song Loving Me kind of might be about
that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
That's on the egy.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
I mean everything we, everything, Me and Sonny b Right
is coming from real places, you know what I'm saying.
And that's whether it's for the single, whether it's for
the married, you know what I'm saying. No matter what
it is, it has to be real. And that's that's what.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
R and Bay is.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Rnbay is not materialistic. It's not the rolly on my wrists.
The whip I'm driving. You know what I'm saying, It's
what you're going through. It's what real people are going
through in real time.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And you know, sometimes people want artists to feel like, okay,
they want you to be single, like they want that
apparents of Okay, he's attainable, he's single, he's this, he's that.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
What's that? Ever? An issue?

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Always for you? Okay always? And it wasn't necessarily me.
It's what I was being taught, you know what I mean.
Like at that time in the industry, you know, the
biggest thing was like, oh you have a girlfriend, Okay, okay, cool,
cool cool? You know who we can set him up with?
Like I just told you, what's up? You know what
I'm saying. Like, you know me, My wife has has

(20:08):
this joke when Jasmine Sullivan's record, she has a she
has a record on uh one of her albums man
where she's literally talking about he just signed his deal,
moved to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And all of a sudden, now the label say you
want to be single? She like that was me, you
hear me? Because I moved to Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Next thing, you know, the label's like, no, we can't,
we can't showcase her. You feel me, and you know
it was it was starting, It was what was being
taught to me. It was, you know, and unfortunately I
was low key going with it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Like, and again.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
That's why I say luckily, you know, she stuck around
and we fought for it, because it's like, at the
end of the day, you do all of that and
the label still drop you, right, and then you sitting
back all those women that they want you to chase
and that's supposed to be there and all the and
even you know, some of the fans. You know what
I'm saying, that's that's that's rocking you because of how
you look and that they want you to be this
single thing. You ain't hot no more. Your record's not

(21:05):
playing no more. Okay, now they looking at you know,
this person, that person, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
The next up. So for me, it's like, shit, I
gotta hold onto something real, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
I'm able to make this music like this because of
the stability that I have outside of this business.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Right, That's an important thing.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And I'm sure that was tough for her too, because
you probably was giving.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Her hell aside from that, hell, that's an understatement. You
feel me like so much respect for her, man, because
you know again like I've told I've told her many times, Man,
we're together and we're in this place that we're at
now because you held.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
On you a strong and it's not you even said
you were wondering if she still loves you.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
And that was a big thing too, because it's like
you go through all this shit, you put them through
the wire, you know what I'm saying, and now you're
at this place where you're like, Okay, I'm ready to
love you and really and really be loved and make
this real, and you question you know what I'm saying,
like you know you gotta you gotta go through the
revenge revenge phase, like you know what I'm.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Saying, and you have to be like I deserve that.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Or or or not accepted and walk away.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
You feel me, And it's like, man, I got we
have our kids, you know what I'm saying. I got
my son, my two daughters. You feel me.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
It's like having having my girls is like I.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Gotta showcase something different, you know what I'm saying, Like
I have something to really stand on for.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Them, and your son is the oldest, so he probably.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
My son is a young he's the youngest.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, So I find I feel like I got him
because I actually started doing right.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
You feel me like you feel me. So it's like
I knew.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Listen, I knew I was having a boy because I
was like, I've been on point. I've been on point. Nah,
I know this a boy. You feel me, But but real.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Life like changed you, no, for sure?

Speaker 4 (22:56):
And then it was perfect timing because having my son, like,
it's a whole new idea I have for him as
as a man raising a son. You feel me, It's like, nah, man,
I want him to see the right father too. I
want him to see a man that loves his on
his mama, because you have that exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
So I want him to see that. I want him
to see a strong bond.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
I want him to learn respect and how he should
respect his mother, love his mother, so.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
That when he gets older he can love on a woman.
You feel me. It's not about having having a million
women and everything. It's cool. You know you're gonna have it.
You know women don't like you.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's cool. I want you to be cool, you know
what I'm saying. But I also want you to focus too.
I want you to put put something on the pavement,
you know what I'm saying, because that's always gonna be there.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
For my daughter, it's the same thing. Man, We're gonna
be here, you know what I'm saying. So let's focus.
And if I can't preach that to you, if I'm out,
you know what I'm saying, Like I used to, I
wanted I wanted my wife to respect my time and
what I what I had to do, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Before it's like, all right, I gotta go to the studio.
I gotta do this.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
It's a problem because I know that's not all you're doing.
Are you telling me you got to go to this
business meeting? But the business meeting is with three foux
hoos here too, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's like, okay, you're right. I can't argue with that.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
But now it's like, man, we we focused though, you
know what I'm saying, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm not And listen and listen, I'm not no nerd.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I'm not no nerd asking either though you feel me
like I'm not saying, we're not around women. You know
what I'm saying, Like women have to be around because
I make music for women, you know what I'm saying.
But it's all about look, I gotta I don't got
to sit here and do all of this extra shit,
you know what I'm saying. Like they gonna like you regardless.

(24:41):
And if you look at today, man, nobody to give
give a shit whether you're married or whether you you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Marriage is so different.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
They're shooting shots, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
So for me, it's just it's like, man, I want
to put some respect out there and I want I
want what I do to be respected, you.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
But there are a time that she left you and
then you had to get her back.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, yeah, we we we separated for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
It was a run of two am time, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
But you know it's tough too.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
It's tough because you know, my team, the women and
my team really get on me. They clown me because
it's like we talk about it and I'm like, yeah, man,
you know I was out doing X, Y and Z
and you know she was tripping everything. But she was
pregnant though, you know what I'm saying. You feel come on, man,
you know I was you know, I wasn't being the smartest,

(25:32):
the smartest person, you know, so you were young, too young.
It was new, you know what I'm saying. And we're
and we're learning it. We're learning that. She moved out
to Atlanta with me, so we're learning this at the
same time. You feel me like we're trying to get
accustomed to this at the same time. So with that happening,
I'm not necessarily getting the support that I feel I need.

(25:54):
That don't make it right for me to go do
nothing crazy or nothing like that. But we're just not
on the same page, you know what I mean. The
connection is missing, is lacking, you know what I'm saying.
And with that, you know, I always talk about it
like you know, she was doing to take pictures a lot,
you know what I mean, and hold hands and be
affectionate all that do relationshipship, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
And I'm like, just hold on, you know, just hold on.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
You know, you stand up with it, you know, to
where it got to a point where when I was
ready for it.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Coming back to it, it's like damn, you don't take pictures.
You know you don't. I'm trying to be affectionate with you.
And she told me that.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
She was like, man, that's what you's what you taught me.
Yeah now and literally that now you're a brick wall,
you know what I'm saying. So it took time to
break that wall back down, you know what I mean.
And it took a certain level of focus. And I
feel like had two Am hit number one, had the
next record dropped and blew up, had that whole thing

(26:52):
kept going, I would not have my family.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I'd be one of you.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
You might hear my kids, see my kids on Instagram
talking about a dead beats.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I don't know who knows. You know what I'm saying.
I might not have the respect that I do for
my family.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Last, So everything happens for a reason.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Everything happens for I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Look and with that, think about you know the Bobby
the Bar story.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Come on, I play I played James de Barge. I'm
in this.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
I'm playing a role in this movie that is about,
you know, the industry and what it can do to
you and where it can take you.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
When you think about the Bar's family so talented, all
of them, like their best of album to this day,
like insane to have a family so talented.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
But the business, the business happens, and it warps your mind.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
How was it for you preparing for that role, because
that was that was your first acting role.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
It was my first acting role, like one one on screen.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Man, it was dope because you know, I was the
only person in the in the cast that was a
singer singer and the only person in the cast that
didn't have a singing role. So I was I was
actually juice about that, Like I was like, cool, can't
nobody says because I sing good or nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
This is really off the chops, you feel me. And
it was dope, man.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
I got I got to get real close with my
pops on it because you know, he was an actor
and he worked with me on it. That was my
coach to get prepared for it. You know, they sent
me the script and I sat with him for like
a couple hours, you know, a couple of hours on it.
You know, I'm I'm focused on I'm looking at the script.
I'm focused on crying. I'm focused on how do I
how do I will Smith this thing, you know what

(28:31):
I'm saying, And I'm in the mirror trying to get
trying to get these tears out, and finally they start dropping.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I'm up there. I'm like, look, look, look, I'm crying.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
How did you make yourself cry? What did you have
to do for me?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It was at the time forcing it.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
It was just trying to like sit there for ten
minutes and turn red, you know what I'm saying. But
how he put it to me was was like to
put myself in this in this character shoes. And that
doesn't mean I'm going I went through what this character
went through, But I do understand the root feeling of
what they are feeling, you know what I'm saying. So

(29:05):
I have older brothers. I have When you have older brothers,
you have those moments where you look up to them,
but they not really tripping on you.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I'm saying, Like you getting pushed to the side, or
you're getting bullied on, or you know what I'm saying,
It's like, how does that make you feel? You know
what I'm saying, Like put yourself in that position. Have
you ever felt hurt? Have you ever felt hurt by somebody?
That you looked up, looked up to you know.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
So I had to really like start to put myself
in it and empathize with that, you know what I'm saying.
And once you start doing it, it's like, Okay, now
read these Just read the words and feel them and
let the words take you where you're supposed to go.
Let the script take you.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Did you know the dear story before that?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I knew a little bit, little bit, but I didn't
know it to the degree of what I learned as
I was going through this script, I'm like, oh shit,
this is even deeper than just drugs.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
This is like some real family dysfunction shit, Like on
another level.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I met Aldebar's ones too.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, he's such a talented like you know, it's just
crazy and you.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Can come but I mean it's it's crazy like and
this is no disrespect at all, but it's just like,
you know, you.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Can see people's trauma, you can see people's like you.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Know what I'm saying, Like certain things that have just
just got to him, you know what I mean. Like,
and I just I guess for me as an artist,
when you talk about marriage, when you talk about like
any of that shit, Like, I just don't want to
be them that artist that you look at like damn,
look at what you was and what you are now,
Like I don't never want to look defeated.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I don't never want to look you know what I'm
saying weak? You know what I'm saying. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
I don't want it to show I'm not one of
them people that's that's driven by drugs, you know what
I'm saying, because I've seen what they do to people.
I've seen champions to me. You know what I'm saying,
be just destroyed, diminish to nothing. You know what I'm saying.
It's like, Damn, I'm too vain for that personally, Like
I can't, I can't do that, you know what I'm saying.

(31:05):
So but again, I just I really care about the
way that I'm that I'm looked at, you know, not
in the sense of like you know, came what people
think about, you know, the little shit, but just the
respect factor.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
How was it getting back?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Because like even on this he started off with E
forty Yeah, obviously a legend you need that you said before,
you know, people weren't answering the phone, So when did
things start to turn? And do you hold a grudge
because who was it wasn't was it Macan that posted
like people that wasn't responding to his dms? I think
it was him and he was like posting those dms

(31:41):
like they responding me?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Then you know, nah, I mean like I don't know,
I don't really fuck with that, Like, you know what
I mean. I look at it like, you know, that's
part of the game, that's part of the valley that
you got to go.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
But that's not my friend necessarily. It's just business.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's just it's just how it goes time with something
that's Yeah, it's just shit, go man, you know what
I mean. And if you if you're if you're willing
to put the work in and get to that space
where they have to answer the phone or matter of fact,
they have to call you, now, like do you become them?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
You know what I'm saying? Do you become the people
that up? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:13):
You know what I'm saying, Like that's weak, that's weak
as fuck to me, Like I'm not going to be like,
oh now you see me now you see me that.
Lets you know, I ain't really winning, like you know
what I'm saying, I'm getting lucky or some shit like
you know, it's like, look.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
We know what it is. You know what.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
You know you didn't answer the phone. I know you
didn't answer the phone. And you know I know you
didn't answer the phone. It's good, we hear what you need.
Let's run this play, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
That's a good feeling. Tables come on.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
The price is up though, like you know what I'm saying, like,
ain't no love, ain't no, ain't no, ain't no for
the strength like no, it's the price is up.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
But it's just I definitely went through that phase of
people not answering the phone, people not tapping in, you
know what I mean. It was it went from perfect
attendance to zero, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
But there were there people who still stayed there.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
That was like, is there anybody in this business you
could feel like you know another?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I mean, I honestly, I honestly do believe yes.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
I do believe yes, And I can't say that I
can't name just off the back, like I'm sure if
there was certain people I called they would have answered.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna shoot on
nobody like that, Like you know the people that.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
About positive positively, people who did no.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying I don't want to shit on
them by not saying that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Like, but I can't. I can't say that I just
called everybody. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
There were people that I did call that didn't you
know what I'm saying. And that's just what it was.
When it came to me and Sonny Bee working, I
remember meeting him and he's he's coming into this, like
looking at the things I've done and you know, he's
seen from me.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
And all that, and he like, man, you know, okay, cool.
We could do this. We could we could. We could
tap in with forty, we could tap in with pain,
we could tap me with this.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
I'm like, yep, yep, okay, because I'm not gonna tell
this nigga, I don't know if I could do that,
but shit, let's let's try.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Let's do it, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
But as we as we worked and as we start
to started to build, as I worked on my writing.
As I worked on that creative process, me and him,
it was just like that confidence started to come back.
And once I knew we had something, then it was like, Okay,
now we start to plan out, map this out.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
How do we attack this? How do we who do
we really need? You know what I'm saying. And with
something like R and BA you need forty.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
You know what I'm saying, that's the Bay Area stamp
right there, that's the ism itself.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
So it's like you're talking about bib City, like we
know the Bay Area known for bipping Hello.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You know what I'm saying, known to a few. You
feel me.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
But it's like to sit there and say that, it's like, man,
I gotta have I gotta have a stamp on it.
You feel me, so forty answer to the phone, You
feel me for the answer at that DM, you feel me.
Like and I we had we had everybody in the
circle hitting them and it was like, yes, that probably helped,
but to just be like, hey man, let me just

(35:05):
let me hit him.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Bring some of that mescato over here, let's get amen.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
And he did.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
He brought, he brought, he brought all the bottles to
the to the video.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Shoot, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
He called he facetimed he heard the record, shout out
to hit a slim you feel me because he made
sure he heard the record, and he wasn't gonna do
it at first because he like bib City.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I can't I can't get on that, Like I can't get.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
On something about bipping. He's like, no, you gotta listen
to what they how they using it.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
So bipping is a quick snatch and though you know
what I'm saying, You got your window, you know, you
know I people see your windows, they quick look in there.
You got something in there? All right, boom pop the window,
Grab grab some ship and get up out of there.
And nine times out of ten, it's with no witnesses around.
It's not a lot of people that can say they
have witnessed a bip. You know what I'm saying, Like,
it's not something that.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
That you.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Know what I'm saying, You might be a little hood.
So y'all shout for Angie when she comes to the bag.
Don't bet my shit. But you know what I'm saying.
And we all didn't went through it like we all
had our ship bit before, you know. But for us,
like when I look at forty, man, forty is the
king of taking something and flipping the meaning.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
That's how you got guda and broccoli and cabbage that
you know what I'm saying. That I mean money. So
for us, we like, man, you know, nah, we ain't
bipping no cars. I'm an elder bars looking nigga like,
I ain't bipping nobody car. But you you know what
I'm saying, you might have to worry about your chick.
We from you know, you in Oakland, You and you
in the Bay, You in Valle Oh, you in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
You know what I'm saying. Okay, I get it, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
So he like when I said it to him, he
got juice and it got me juice cause he's like, oh,
I'm about to use that. I'm about to use that,
you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, put it
on this. So he everybody told me he was gonna
take four months to record the record.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
He took forty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
He hit me.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
We did a quick FaceTime. He said, I got you.
I'm gonna do this record, he said, give me a
little time, No hung up. The forty five minutes I
got the record back. It took me about fifteen listens
to really get all the ism he put on there,
like she gonna choose him like a criminal lineup.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
You know what I'm saying, kayaking through traffic.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know what I'm saying, Like you understand what you
have to do to kayak and you're kayaking through that's
some base shit, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like he really went in you know what I'm saying,
He really put the culture in it.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
They like it was like you get it.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
So when that happened, it that was enough for me
to say, Okay, we can get anybody. We won't, you
know what I'm saying, It's just about the work we
put in. Then you get Jane Hancock on there. That's
somebody on death row. Come on death row records.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
You feel me.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
He can't even imagine being able to say, like, yeah,
the artists I work with, she's on death row.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Every time I say it to people, they look at
it like what you know what I'm saying, Like deathro
doing R and B. You know what I'm saying, like yeah,
and and then you you know, you got come on
like DJ Drama man, you know what I'm saying for
him to hop on. Man, It's like all the work
that we put in all these records, that we just
believed in and that we just stay down, you know

(38:04):
what I'm saying, Just stay focused, put our heads down
and just worked.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
And then you look up and you like, damn, look
where we're at.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Look how how was it to choose these six songs?
And I do love the song? So come on, how
hard was it for you to choose?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Like what was gonna make it?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know it?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
It was really just about like understanding, understanding how we
made the music. To go from song one to song
two hundred.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
That's a lot of evolution. That's a lot of growth.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
You know, anything you do consistently like that, you're gonna
get better at, you know. And for us, we went
through this growth under the surface. We went through all
of this growth behind closed doors.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
So it's like we can't just jump and give y'all.
You know what I'm saying, these these new records, you
know what I'm saying, Like we want y'all to grow
with us too, you know what I'm saying. So pulling
Up with DJ Drammer was actually the first record me
and Sonny rode together, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Like Loving Me was like the third or fourth record.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So it's like these
are still some of the earlier records. These are records
from twenty twenty, you know what I'm saying. So now
to bring them here, it's like we want you all
to get these and keep growing with it. The next
one it's gonna keep feeling like damn, it's getting better.
This keeps getting better like them. I'm I'm gonna let
y'all catch up with us, and then we're gonna take

(39:23):
it from there and keep going.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
You know, because it has been five years of year
the last project.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yeah, and it needed to be though, Okay, it needed
to be five years, you know, because it was, like
I said, you're talking about reinventing yourself. You talk about
like you know, me and SB had to have a
conversation here to tell me he like, bruh. We talked
for hours and I hear these records that you do
and I love them. You know, these are good records,
but the person I'm hearing on these records.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Is like a nice, nerd version of you, you.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Know what I'm saying, Like, you don't talk like this, nigga,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like, this is not
this is not the full scope of you. And it's
time your audience gets to real you. You know what
I'm saying. Again, you come from a label where you
are trying to just be as good as you can,
as as presentable as you can, you know what I'm saying,

(40:15):
So you as non problematic, so you sacrifice some of
your your true self for that. I'm blessed enough that
I could really come back and it's not no question.
It's like, nah, this is actually who I really am.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I say. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
I do say that you feel me on I apologies,
you feel me, Like, let me let you know right now,
my wife is My wife knows who I am.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
You feel me, you know what I'm saying. So it's
like it's it just is what it is.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
And it's like, but going through this process now writing
records like I talk, you know what I mean, writing
records and making records that are a real representation of me,
is completely different because there's no questions for you. It's
all right there, listen to the music.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
And now you're fully accountable.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
So as an independent artist, which your own label, it's
also a lot more work come on, you know, So
talk to me about for is this where you want
to stay or do you feel like I could see
myself doing another situation and you can kind of dictate
it because I do feel like there's so many different ways.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Absolutely, you can collaborate.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Now, Yeah, I mean we're open where we just know
what we won't do, what we won't accept. You know
what I'm saying, Like, I'll never put myself in that
position again. You know what I'm saying, I'll never put
myself at the mercy of anyone again. You know what
I'm saying, Like I'm surrounded by people that truly believe
in my vision, that truly believe in me, my talent.
They're fans first and family. Now, you know what I'm saying.

(41:40):
So I can't I can't come on to another team
or a company that ain't gonna be exactly the same.
You know what I'm saying, There's no amount of money
that can move my team. You know what I'm saying
away from our vision as a whole.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Were you financially good throughout this whole time?

Speaker 4 (41:56):
No, fast, No, But you know I was smart though,
you know what I'm saying, Like, even during the time
of creating all this music's, aren't this R and BA
sound like?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I always looked at it like I was.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Moving simultaneously through my through my two lives of music
and personal. Like I bought some property, you know what
I'm saying, Like I brought a super fixer upper amazing
and tore it down to the ground, put everything I
had into that land. And you know that's that's like
starting from ground up. And every day from eight to six,

(42:31):
I'm working on this property with the contractors, and then
I'm going home, taking a shower, meeting up with Sonny
Bee at the studio from six to six in the morning.
You know what I'm saying, to make these records, you know.
So this was happening every day for a year, almost
a year and a half.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
So, but while I'm putting the foundation, we're creating a foundation.
While I'm framing the house, we're framing.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
These rests and being a father and a husband all
at the same time.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
All at the time, I'm living with my parents, Like
let's keep it the butck you feel me? Like, while
I'm building this house, it ain't like I got enough
money to go buy this house and pay rent, you
know what I'm saying. Somewhere, So I'm living with mom
and Pops with two kids and a wife in a room.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
You feel me, she ride or die? Fuck? You mean,
like you know what I'm saying. So it's like to
do that.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Here, come on, come on home for real, like you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
But that's my dog though. That's my dog though for real,
Like a lot of people don't like who they with,
like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
That's why if you're trying.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
To get away, Yeah, they don't be like, they don't
be liking who they with.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Bro. I tell them quick, Hey, bro, I'm to the hut,
to the crib. You feel me, He's good. I'm trying
to go lay up for a minute, you know.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
But it's again like going through those struggles, you got
to think about it as a man, not even just
an artist. Like the mental state that you're in trying
to hold that respect, trying to hold you know what
I'm saying, uphold your value to your family. And it
looked like this on the surface, you feel me.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
But I think when you know you have this happening
and the purpose of why we're here for now, because
it's a sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
You know what you're sacrificing for.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
That's it, and that's my biggest thing.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Like I love my wife, I love my kids, but
at the same time, I am still an individual. I'm
my own human being, and I have to make these
decisions for me. I'm sure a lot of them. A
lot of people around me wanted me to say, listen,
it's time to put it down. You still going to
the studio. We're not hearing, we're not seeing nothing coming
from that. There's no money coming from being in the

(44:40):
studio twelve hours a day.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
But I know what's up, and I got enough faith
in what I'm doing and belief in myself for everybody.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Here, and patience because that definitely takes some patience.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
So everybody sit down, chill out, post up like a thumbtack.
I'll be right back. You know what I'm saying. And
now you look at our house. We got a beauty.
We have a beautiful home. My kids don't have to
worry about nothing, you know what I'm saying. Like we
we I'm not saying we just super off, but we
were good.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Don good, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
And the kids will still have fun no matter what
period they don't. Like if you think about it, sometimes,
what are circumstances.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Were like growing up?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
You don't realize that you're like we were living with
our grandparents in the room having fun.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Think about that.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
How many people don't get how many how many people
don't get the chance to have their real grandparents, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
What I'm saying, Like my grandparents growing up.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Come on, I did too, Like I spent a lot
of time with my grandmother and grandfather. So it's like
for my son to be as close as he is
with my father now, like they inseparable. My father calls
me every day, head who getting that boy?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Get him? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Here it's you go ahead, go get him, you know
what I'm saying. He's like, look, I want.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
To go to Papa house. So but it's good. I
love that though. I love that my daughter is close
with her nana.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
I love that they are all close with my mom
and it's man, they need that because those are the
people that raised me.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
It was hard or your wife when two AM came out,
Like you said, how was it with the rest of
your family, like your parents?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Were you acting different?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
I wasn't around Okay, yeah, my mom was so worried.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
You know, she's constantly calling, like you don't call, you
don't check in, you don't. You know what I mean,
I don't know what's going on. Like I tell her
I'm going somewhere. She's damn there crying about it because
it's like I'm scared. I don't I don't know. I
don't know if you're safe. I don't know if you're
this or that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Like, so, you know, thank god label dropped the ball
because we don't know where Thank you.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, and again like you said,
like you asked earlier, like you know, our whole thing
is like we love our independency, we love where we're at,
we love what we're able to do right now. If
a label came our way, and I know they see it,
you know what I'm saying. I know they see what's
going on. I know they this R and Bay thing
is spreading like legs on prom night, you know what
I'm saying. So it's like I see, I see. I'm

(46:52):
just saying, you know what I'm saying. They getting hit
like a femur right now and caught up like an
affair to it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
But it's like with that when.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
They call, it's like, look, just call, just understand what
it's what it takes. Man, we ain't We're not signing
to nobody will partner. There's enough deals that have been
made now in this industry that can fit to everybody's
shoe size, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
if you want to rock with us, gonna fuck with us, man,
really fuck with us, though, Like don't try to come

(47:20):
in here and start putting paint where you can't, you
know what I'm saying. Like we've already started putting paint
where it ain't, so we don't need we don't need
all of that. We don't need you to come in
and get creative if it ain't getting creative on how
to get what we're being creative with out there?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
And this is the vibe you're gonna get from the project.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Okay season, this is his voice. You get to hear
it well, Adrian. I appreciate you so much for everything
that you do. You know you came out to Angela
y day.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Is that it for me? I really really?

Speaker 2 (47:51):
People were so excited to see you so and they
would tell like, Dan, how you get myself listen?

Speaker 3 (47:56):
I don't know how it happens.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
You got to push you to plug what you mean me.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I appreciate you the congratulations for this and for being
in the space that you're in right now. I think
that's so important for everybody to see. You know what
you've managed to accomplish. It's not a small thing.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
Come on all right for having me man, appreciate everybody listening.
Go get that R and B season right now. Not
not NASCAR, fast NASA. Yeah, go go go BIP your nearest,
your nearest DSP you feel me and stream that you
feel me. Hello,