Claressa Shields Talks Knockout, Engagement Rumors, Sparring at 15, Views on Haney, Garcia + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Oh man, Clarissa Shields is here. What's up? Its way
up at Angela ye menos here. We're looking at the
two Olympic gold medalists, but also every single belt you
can possibly imagine. Clarissa Shields got it?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Okay, Hey girl, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How could I not? Y'all know what a big fan
I am of you, not just because of the champion
that you are, but also because of what you're doing
for boxing and for women's boxing. You know, when you
couldn't get the right money and the right situation, You're like,
you know what, I'm gonna do my own fight. And
I always talk about that and put all women on
the under card. When you did that, I was like,
this is game changing for people.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Mm hm. You know, sometimes you can't wait for them
to give you, give you an opportunity. You got to
go and make one for yourself. Yeah, And that's what
I did with that, and people still talk about that
to this day.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
To this day, it's always yeah. And you also have
your own promotion company now right.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
T x X Boxing Promotions. I'm excited about that. I
just find my first two fighter, Samantha Kitchen and Ya Kwamacellroy,
Samantha Kitchener's ringing number three at one hundred and forty pounds.
That's the way class where at Lastia bomb Garden raised
at Katie Taylor, Amanda Serrano, those are the top three
at that weight class. So of course I want to
get her big enough to where she can definitely beat
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all of them.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And if there's anybody that listens to when it comes
to boxing, it's clear fight what.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Heavyweight? Why you beat her like that?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Eh?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Second round?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It was like a minute and ten seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Why would you do it?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It was a disrespect from her that people don't know
what disrespect really is. You know what I'm saying, Like
she walking off all of my face, getting in my grill,
like trying to like press me, trying to press me
with her body. I'm like, I can't even beat her
right now and she's trying to press me. And then
I got to be professional. So it was like when
I got when I was able to have a chance
to put my hands on, I'm like, man, I'm gonna
drop her ass real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
She was about to call the fight. They were gonna
call the fight was her.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Corner was standing up. He didn't haven't had no white towel.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
The footage I saw it was like everybody left the ring,
like y'all all left, and she still was locked out,
knocked out. You know what I'm saying that the helicopter came,
that's crazy was gone. I've seen that the people in
there sweeping and was like.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Shut up to me.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But honestly, that was like the quickest ever, right, you know,
and such an exciting boxer that you are too, because
I think you went in there knowing that you were
going for the knockout.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, you know what. I do that every fight trying
to get the knockout, Like I haven't before this fight.
I have drop girls, thun girls. But I spend so
much time this past year and a half two three
years turning over my punches because my punches were not landing.
They're landing, but they're not landing. How I need them
to land to get the knockout. So we worked so
hard on that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Why you felt like that they wasn't landing.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
No, they were landing, but they're not landing. They're like
like here or like here. I'm like for real on
the knuckle. Because these are the two biggest, big enough
so if it's if it's landing here and this is
where you want to hit them. So it was like
when my punches, I'm so fast that why I'm not
to turn themucker's over. They just not turn it all
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the way. By the by the time I hit you
was here. I need to hear, right. So we worked
so hard to make sure I can twist that over
time and get it over the where it lands. So
it just worked out this fight, and We've been working
so many years on. I'm just happy that it finally came.
Because you know a couple of little haird or something
Chris that got pillow fits, Like, man, I was sleep y'all?
Hos is y'all crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Talk that you started at what? At what weight class?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Because you you did all three three different weight classes, right,
it's five now, so.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Fifty four so that's wells weight in light.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's wait, no.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Super super because.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Fifty four is super well super, sixty is middleweight, sixty
eight is super middleweight, one seventy five.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You unified every one of those weight classes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I haven't unified, yep. I have unified every last one
of them, but I haven't been undisputed at one seventy five.
Yet that's my next go.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You just got there. Yeah, that's actually the first fight
at heavyweight. Yep, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah that and that's a hard thing today because it
is different.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now because you feel a different in your power, Like
do you feel like you are naturally more powerful at
at middleweight or super middleweight because you know sometimes when
you go up, you might you might lose that power.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Nah. I think I felt the strongest I've ever been
at one seventy five. You know, I fought at sixty
and I was fast, and I was in great shape.
There had an eight pack. I fought at sixty eight,
But seventy five, I'm like, man, how strong I was
in camp? I was sparring a man that was one
hundred and ninety pounds all throughout your life, all throughout
this camp for this fight, you was like one seventy
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one sixty. But man, the guy I was sparning against
the first time we sparred to get ready for the
Tabaweay Championship, man he roughed me up. I said, oh shit,
I don't know if I should have came to this
weight class because yeah, he's at one point eighty. But
that's what she's gonna wait for the fight one eight five,
and he roughed me up the first the first time
we sparred, and then and then the second time we sparred,
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he wreughed me up a little bit too, and I
was like, damn, like, I gotta figure this out. Because
it wasn't like he was a good boxer, but it
was like I just couldn't figure out how to deal
with the width of his body, you know what I'm saying, right,
and the power. I'm like, dang, So I had to
really you know, I'm used to having a fast hands.
It was like, no, you gotta sit down. So when
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I started sitting down on my punches, that's why I
start getting the best out of him and sparring. Okay,
because at first it was like I'm trying to light
him up and he like, I don't care about that
shit against the ropes shoulder body.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm like, God, that's great as far as change, But
it had to have been so frustrating for you because.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You're not used to. No, it was definitely frustrating, but
it gave me something like think about, like you're going
the heavyweight, this is what this is where her game
plan is she can't out box you, if she can't
out speed you, so what she gonna do try to
rough you up. And it's exactly what he's doing. So
I'm like, Okay, I know what I need to do.
So as we kept, as we kept working, I don't know.
It was just one sparing probably two sport stations where
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I'm like, know what I'm gonna I'm gonna try this
for this for this Sparns session. We had about eight
rounds in and I remember I just was like, we're
gonna just work on like every punch you throw, like
we're not throwing it unless it's hard and it's flushed.
And when I box like that, oh, it was a
whole different story, A whole different story.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Is that the thing to spa with men?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I've always sparked with men ever since you first started
in the jail.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So so so do most female box to spall with men?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Some do, some don't. But I'll let every man know,
like when you get in the ring with me, I
got so much respect for them. Please don't get in
here playing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Don't take it easy.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
One do not. Because you do that, I'm gonna tell
you to get out the ring across Mariosian like, I'm
a real world champion, don't I don't play in the ring.
So it's like all that, Oh you don't hear girls stuff.
All right, well I'm a woman. Get out.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
How old were you when you won your first gold
in the Olympics seventeen and then you went back to
school after that? High school? You went to graduate from
high school? You know how crazy that is to be
in high school as an Olympic goldposing in the USA.
That's a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Nice, very nuts. I remember like I was having my
documentary at the time, t Rex, and they're followed me
all around school and everybody was my friend in I'm like,
you know what have y'all don't even have y'all won't
even speak to me. Give me a pencil paper now, now,
y'all all my cousin and my friends like, y'all so fake.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And you have that documentary and then you also have
the movie The Fire Inside coming out December twenty fifth,
right Christmas. That's gonna be amazing. So Ryan Destiny is
playing you in the movie. Have you seen it yet?
Because being that is coming in it twice okay, and
Tier Jerk I knew it had to be because your
whole story and you know, I think in real life
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we see where you are now, so we know you
come out on top, which is amazing, but the journey
to get here, yeah, you wouldn't even be who you
are though without having gone through absolutely of that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know, to win an Olympic gold medal and come
back home and not get one endorsement, not one sponsorship,
like crazy right to have. I don't know whether athlete
has dealt with that and continue to be like, you
know what, I'm gonna go for a second Olympic gold medal.
It's like, no, you know what. I guess the Olympics
ain't what it's cut out to be.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
We can see right now because there's a lot going
on with the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But that's how I would have felt. But it was
something to me like just because people don't give you recognition,
I mean, you don't get your self recognition.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That taught me that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That taught me that. It's like you're talking about some weight,
so you mad you want Olympic gold medal? No, Like no,
I'm happy as hell and I earned it. But just
because as people don't give you, oh no, endorsement, those sponsorships,
no magazine covers, no Cereal boxes. I mean, I supposed
to feel like what I did wasn't worth nothing. He
was like, what I did was worth a lot. As
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you can see a women's boxing now. Had I not
want to go medal back then all these women y'all
see boxing on TV now would not be boxing on TV.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So that's a question I want to ask you.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Right so, women's boxing been around for a while, but
do you right now feel like you are the face
of women's boxing and you actually are opening up doors
for women right now?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Bigger will say that, Yeah, I know, Terres Crawford will
say that.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There's not a male fighter right now. You ask them
who's the best humane fighter. Everybody is going to say
curs the shields except oh, Jkie Paul now because he's
a hater. He's a hater. He thinks he think it's
a man of Serrano. But it's like, it's not right.
(09:59):
I don't think anybody would dispute that, except, you know,
except him, because he's a hater. He man that because
I'm a female and I can beat him in a fight.
He's like kind of you know, pressed about it. He's
like Robin boxing for eighteen years. If if, if I
can't beat a YouTuber in a fight, it's a problem,
all right.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I want to get into some other things, you know,
you know I do, because Clari said, last time you
was no longer engaged, you were single. But now you
let me see something. Let me see Okay, now you're engaged.
Is that your engagement ring? Like, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Gaming? Right here?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So what's going on?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's hold on?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's your right hand, clar I haven't been because last
time we talked about this and now you're engaged again.
Shout out to that man, what's going on? Are you engaged?
You were engaged again? But then I see some of
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your tweets. Now this tweet right here, I love a
man who craved me. Not your sex, but my scent,
my vibe, my company. Yeah yeah, okay. So then you
also said I don't cry no where my eyes get
watery and I'll just shake it up. Is that to
do with your relationship or is that to do with
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other things?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Probably a bit of both. But honestly, like I'm at
a place in my career where it's just that maybe
we're on a break you know, we're not together right now,
maybe we're on a break. You know. I didn't want
to talk about it because it's just like relationships, you
break up and you get back together. But it's just
like for me right now, it's like I got so
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much other things going on. I'm trying to really be
like the greatest I can be. You know, you have
this window right here to be great. Each time you drink,
each time you smoke, each time you do something that
you're not supposed to do, it gets smaller. I haven't
done those things. But it's like time still is ticking,
you know. So I'm twenty nine years old and I
don't got time to be unhappy about nothing. I just
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don't have time and.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Said, you just weren't happy. I remember you said that.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, And it's like no, it's like you have to
accept people for who they are. I can't force you
to do stuff that I think should naturally be done.
Like if I like you, massage you, if I like you,
I compliment you, If I like you, I buy your stuff,
if I like you. You know, like it's simple stuff.
I text you, I call you. You don't have to ask
me to call you. Ask me to text you ask
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me to like, that's what love is. So if you're
with somebody, who have you doing that? Maybe you're just
not the one. So who are you to keep saying
like that you're the one and get it mad at
this person because they can't deliver on that. So it's like,
at the end of the day, I'm like, look, I
am too damn fine to be sitting here and I'm
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the best in the world, not yesterday but today, and
I'm all natural. I ain't got no fake booty, no
fake titties, no nothing. Maybe I gotta go on.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Oh but I said, you probably can't do that, I
would think because.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What girls got fake brass? A couple of.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Them really, because I would think it'd be better not to.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Look ebony bridges her breast bigger than your head.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If she get punched, huld you just get punched?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
The rift gonna stop it? You don't one got big risks?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But okay, because you posted his birthday the other day
to and celebrated his birthday, all right, Okay, No.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
No I didn't because, like I said, you know, like
I don't think. I don't think I'm the person right
now to be in no relationship.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right now, right, Sometimes you got to be selfish because
you got things you're trying to accomplish still right now, right,
so you're out trying to accomplish these these goals and
and right now might not be.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
The right time.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Well man, no, as a man, like what she's saying is, toru,
you shouldn't. I shouldn't have to be like you need
to calm and you need to do this, you need
to like these are things that should naturally right. But
I will say some guys, I'm always like, who did
you date before me? That you don't know how to do?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Never?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He ain't never been with a boss like me.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, And sometimes they don't know like how to they.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Don't require as much. And it's like, but we were
together for and a half years, so it's like you
may not knew that at the beginning, but as we
continue today, you right, I don't really buy my tongue a.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Whole lot, so we can see that. How does that work? Though?
Like you like you know it could get crazy, huh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean you don't put your hands on me?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Doing that? No, it's doing that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's been it's been tried in my younger years, and I
have to show that's why we are no. But I'm saying,
like what I'm just be like, it's just the with
with their whole relationships. It's just like, you know what
I have to really like for my the last couple
of years, I've ever, I've always chosen everybody over myself,
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and not just him, you know, take out him with
the equation, my family, friends, you know, pearents. I've always
put them before me. I've always put like what I
wanted to do second, and it hasn't made me feel good,
you know. So I'm strong enough to where I can
do it and deal with it. But it's been like
very stressful and I've been and I've dealt with depression
and anxiety and it's because of it. And it's like
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I asked myself recently, I'm like, what do you said about.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You just knocked the girl out bad?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Like you just slepper that's what you've been working on.
And now I'm twelve thous people show up to see
you fight and now you're upset and you're set, And
I said, why are you saying? And I'm like, one,
I don't want to be in Flint. Two I want
to be out in Dubai somewhere three. I want to
live in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So I said, you're looking at houses. You it's like
I'm on Zillo looking at houses.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I'm not playing out, Okay, No, so I'm doing all that.
And I asked myself, well, that's all the stuff that
you want to do, why aren't you doing it? And
the reason why I wasn't doing stuff was like, oh,
because he may think you're cheating. Oh because this person
will feel left out. Oh because this person isn't ready.
And then I got to a point where I'm like,
do anybody consider me when they're making their decisions to
have fun?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And you know what your happiness and with the people
that you take care of around you. You can't do
it for people if you're not doing for yourself first. Yeah,
how they alwaysay, put your eyes is your mask on? First?
You got to do that first so that you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Can help president.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Because if you're not good, everybody around you that you
you know, do that for it is not going to
be good either.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Angela.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You see all these belts up here, Okay, you know
what I'm saying. We got to make sure. And you
know what's funny when you knock people out, they'll be like,
you're my favorite afterward, and that how is that like
when you fight somebody but they're also a fan of
yours and you got to knock them out?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, you know what, I believe, I'm all these girls favorite.
I don't even know what they say. Alicia Listen, I
was her favorite. Amanda Serano, she called me quote. She
may say publicly that she's the quote, but privately.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
She knows what.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Forty So yeah, y'all knocking meet which one?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Amanda? If she had the one?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Hey, listen, if she come to fifty four even forty
seven and they got a world tight on the line.
I will make fights with these girls just because I
know I'll have to go like down thirty forty pounds,
but I have a great nutrition, the team, and I
believe that I could do it still be healthy, still
be strong and win.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Probably he was stronger down at losing weight.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Sometimes it do take away some stuff because I did
feel stronger at seventy five than I felt at any
weight class.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Because I looked at Crawford fight, his last fight, he
went from what was with and I feel like this fight,
I feel like he didn't look as strong, his power punches.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
To me, he was in there with a very awkward fighter.
You know this is not I don't think he would
have had that much trouble with Charlo, and Charlo has
been fighting at fifty four or for however long. I
think Blud is very strong. But when you're in there
with somebody who's awkward and you're also coming up a
weight class, I think he just had to get the
cobwebs off of that weight class. Now that he's there,
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I think that he'll know what he needs to do
for to train to make his fights better.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Now, I want to ask you about this movie some because,
like you said, it is tear jerker, So talk to
me about what was going through your head like when
you saw it, if there are certain things that was
really you know, you've had a lot of things happened
to you when you were younger, So how was it
for you watching that the first time? And there are
certain things that you're like, maybe I'm not going to
put this in because I know even talking to like
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your mom, I'm sure that she's heard you discuss like
your childhood and I don't know, I know you say
your parents and I'm sure that you feel away because
sometimes we want to protect our parents too from the
mistakes that they've made.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think that my mom and my dad portrayed great
in my movie. You know, before Barry Jenkins even started
started recording the movie, he sent me the script and
I read the script and only one thing I wanted
taken out one when I read the script. Actually it
was two, but he took one out and the other
one I let him leave in. But it was one
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that was particularly about my mom. I said, I don't
like that that's in there, and that for the whole
world to be able to I don't want my mom
to feel no way toward me. So I had to
let him know, like that part definitely has to come
out if nothing else you changed that, I said, that
has to when he took it out. So when I
watched the movie, it was it was very good. The
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only thing I could say about like the beginning of
the movie, it shows me as a little girl boxing,
and I mean, it's in the bottle of my heart.
I never had a problem with sparring nobody in the gym.
When I was a little girl. I came to the
gym head honcho, like nobody was better than me. I
fought better than all of them. But in the movie
it's like, oh, I came in there as this little
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girl and the boys were beating me up and taking
it easy on me.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's like, nah, that shit would happened.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That never happened. And I told him in the movie,
I said, when I read the script, I didn't I
couldn't figure out and play this part. But I said,
had I seen it, I would have told y'all like,
y'all is crazy. Like when I was a kid, from
the age eleven till sixteen seventeen, I was whooping everybody
in the gym, not just little boys, the grown men too.
I was fit teen sparning got that was twenty five,
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and he came in there talking some shit. First round,
probably the first thirty seconds, hit me with a jab firs.
He said he don't he don't spark girls, he don't
hit girls. I'm like, all right, whatever. Coach was like, well,
she gonna make you hit her. So he got in there.
He threw a jab and hit me. Boom. He like, man,
it's too easy, man, it's a girl. Blah blah blah.
He threw a jab again, Boom, hit me. Again. Then
all of a sudden he tried. He like, man, I
don't want to spart no girl, And then he kept
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doing that. So then he went through that same jab.
I slipped hit him on the right hand. Boom, he
goes flying into the ropes. His eyes got so big,
and I just started whooping his ass. I just had
him on the rope, just beating him down, beating him down.
And that was only round one. I did that for
four rounds, four rounds, and when we got done, he
walked up to me like, man, how old are you
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you like twenty or something. I'm like, no, I'm fifteen. Bro.
He was like he like, bro, no, everybody and all
these people with him start screaming. So he told me
you a fifteen year old girl. I'm like yeah. He
was like, I won't even like four years. And he
just was like, man, you probably the hardest person not
an ever spar like. I ain't never got down like that.
I'm like, well, that's your fault for not taking me
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seriously and talking about something that you don't spar girls.
I bet I bet next time you come here talking
that shit, you're gonna have your hands up and you're
gonna be ready to spar but I appreciate you giving
me my work, and I wouldn't hit the bag. And
he was just like, she ain't even tired off the
piece of me up, bro, Like she crazy. I'm like,
at the end of the day, boxing is a sport.
It's a sport. I hate this whole female male thing like, yeah,
y'all got penises and we got vaginas. I get it.
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But at the same time, if you did the exact
same workouts as a man growing up from the time
you were a kid, you're gonna know how to handle that.
And boxing is not all about strength. Yeah, me and
are born strong girl, bigger bones and bigger next and
all that stuff. But technique matters, skills matters, Like you
think I'll look like this if I went in there
trying to go power for power dudes, Hell, no, head
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on a swivel. You're not about to hit me. You
know what.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's interesting And I saw you reposted this too, the
whole thing with the Olympic, Yeah, with the trans athletes,
and it was she ain't right, She's not and you
had to take it Iman Khalif, Yeah, and that was
that was unfortunate and you did apologize for for yours
because there was wrong information that was put out there
and yeah, and that she wasn't trans and I saw,
(22:19):
but I think it's important to take accountability. And you
did like say, you know, I was wrong. I had
some wrong information. That's why people got to research. Yeah,
you know more, but.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That was given to me by my team and even
by Fox, so you know before I went on there,
before I talk about this like I'm the face of
women's boxing, so as I go and talk about this,
it's like, look, if there was a transgender who turned
to a female in their boxing, that is completely completely unfair. Me.
I do it that you do it. I do it
(22:57):
because like women against women, women have been brought up
to like sadly, maybe some women even trained less and
not as hard as the men. I don't know. I'm
just saying that for me, I spar against men daily
since I was eleven years old, so rather Eman and
Khalif like if she was a transgender or whatever, I
still would have been like this is the Olympics. I'm
(23:19):
not backing down for no challenges, Like you didn't even
take gold medal for me. She would have to fight
me for that like homegirl, that quick, she's soft. Yeah,
she was bad, she's soft. Oh, I've never been hit
the dart in my life.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
She was like, it's over. That was so fast.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
But that's why it took wildfire. You got like a
little white girl and you think that this is a
transgender and whatever the case may be. And she's crying
these wolf tears, and you think that at the end
of the day, like I said, I wasn't in her
to get hit, but I ain't never I haven't been
hit that hard yet, not even by a man.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And where it was like, oh, just get me out
of here, right, I have been to that point.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You know what I love about Clarissa, Like, because I've
read so many different stories and articles about you, She's like,
I don't know where you're going with this my life,
you know, because you said the little white girl. You
did a white guy before.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I did my god anthem. If you don't, I'm gonna
seeing a black one with every boy.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
If you don't sit down with that metal.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Lease Bertie. You know the verses Jice high at the lease.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I feel like she was duck in the question. He
was bobbing and weaving that question. No, Listen, I did.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I did that the white guy before, And listen, I
think that I'm probably the easiest motherfucker trick because I
got tricked and we did this about three four weeks
and then I was done with that crap. But man,
I'm not racist or anything, but I am. I am
(25:14):
straight on that I love my black man.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I would if you're gonna end up with somebody from
Flint or Detroit or you know, later in life, Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Hey, Atlanta, got some good looking man, looking man.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But you're still in recovery, so you can't.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
But look, look, my eyes still wonder.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Next time I look, next time I see you, you're
gonna be back engaged again. Maybe girl, you know what
that is?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's what gets on my nerves, right, Like, I'm a
relationship type woman, Like I'm not for the street. I'm
not like the whole dating around and stuff. I'm not
like it's a couple guys like courting me a little bit.
But it's like right now, I'd be like, assuming they
do one thing I don't like, I'd be like, yeah,
fuck that, I'm done. Like like all right, bro, thanks
not it. But you know, when you're at the top
(26:01):
of your game, and I'm really untouched in the industry,
Like when it comes to the Hollywood, can't no guys
say that he ever slept with me? So it's like
I feel like, now it's some type of weird competition
for somebody to be.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Like, oh, yeah, I'm because it's a good look for
a guy too. Guys think about that, they would be like,
get off of your okay, oh I can't you know,
listen our off camera interview be different than this. But honestly,
I like to talk about that side of you because
I felt like you're always talking about boxing, but your
personal life also is maturing at the same time, like
(26:33):
what you have going on outside the ring. You know,
you got your ever last gloves to the limited edition
and again make sure you get them. Yeah, I'm getting
us because I have some pink gloves at home from
the time that I you.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Know, I don't. I'm trying to think am I the
first woman I have a signature glove would ever last?
After do my research, but I feel like I am
and the glove is definitely like we designed it together.
But I'm so happy that it turned out how we did.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Who was the face of women box before Leyla.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, Leila, she retired for like twenty years. You wanted
to fight her at one point.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, but I forg yeah, and it's not gonna happen.
But now, but you know what, you respect it.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
If Matt Tyson can fight against Jake Paul he like
it didn't happen though it's happened in November seventeenth.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
They still gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Look at you know about they still gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I mean, listen, first of all, somebody got on me
because I'm like, bro y'all thinking that Mike Tyson is
still the eighteen year old Mike Tyson, like he's sixty.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, I don't know if that that's the I love
Mike Tyson. I'm a fan. I'm from Brooklyn, so you
know he's a hero.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But man, if Jake, if Jake hurt Uncle Mike Tyson,
it's gonna be a I.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Just don't like the optics of it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You know. He's like, look, he's he's younger, he's a
little bit bigger, Like, yeah, he's not the best boxing,
but he's still.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Just yeah, like you know what, I like, what do
you think Okay, I want to ask you what you
think about this because we've talked about Ryan Garcia and
Devin Haney before. What does Devin Haney need to do
now if you were going to tell him as somebody
in the sport, because you know, I have so much
love for Devin Haney, but I want to know what
you think if you were going to advise him should
(28:16):
be his next moves.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
One, I want to say something about Ryan a clown.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, so he was in your DMS and then talking
crazy and then having raised to her baby Ryan Garcia.
So that's the thing with these dudes, right, and then
when you when you expose what he said. He told
me to come at you.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, now now I'm ugly all of a sudden, now
I'm this And then he called me a lesbian or
a lesbo, like baby, I have been called worship things honestly, Right,
You're like, that's fine whatever, whatever, Who cares. It's the fact,
like when Ryan to me, this will make me mad
about the whole situation even in the boxing world, and
make you feel how they feel about it. When Ryan
(28:53):
tested positive and then they got proven that the dude
really did cheat. Bro y'all still.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Riding with Ryan, I don't understand and mad at Devon right.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Clown behavior, clown behavior, like how don't you stick with
the fighter and the brother who did everything right? Nobody
gave a ship about Devon. Right, everybody's still on there tweeting.
There's tweeting that, oh Devin, there's Devin, that Devon's uh
pussy Devon and the and they're saying all this stuff,
and it was like, at the everything you're saying about Devon, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Ryan Ryan, And some people felt like maybe he shouldn't
have taken that fight because Ryan did come in above
weight and he had the opportunity to say, okay, but
you know there's money on the list thing.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
M that's it Astroman. No, Ryan's gonna throw that same
hook no matter he was gonna Ostron or not. But
it wouldn't have been as strong and been as.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Possible because that's just one. He's like a one trick pony.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So that's just one punch that that that left as.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You think that the room was strong enough in his
body to make him.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Absolutely look Devin ain't no knockout artists, but Devin will
take a fight with anybody. To me, Devin is the
better boxer. He's a better boxer, no matter if Ryan's
a little bit bigger or stronger, whatever the case, he's
a better boxer. And I knew that he was gonna
try to outbox Ryan. But to get hit, come on now,
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like people are like, they're so stupid to get hit
with the hook the first round and it hurt the
first round, Come on now it drop you like, come
on like that's not even logical, And then people are
tain't disappointed me. I'm sorry, all right, he fucking he
fucking riding with like like that's his brother or that's
(30:40):
his cousin. Like, Bro, this dude is a drug.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Cheap bro, would you if you were Devin Handy, would
you fight him again?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Man? What you can't take no drugs? Drugs against me
and think ain't gonna get my lick back? You're crazy.
I will. I will fight Ryan every time I seen them,
not in the ring. I don't care where we at
the Venetia see him at the club, you better have
your people with you because if I see you, you're right,
you ain't getting away with that.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, listen, I know we gotta go because the show,
you know, has to continue on but Clarissa, every time
you come up here, you know, I always got to
see you. I'll shift whatever around.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yes, no, thank you for that so.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Much, because I love me. Send Clarissa Shills. Like from
the beginning, try Me was the perfect song for you
to walk out to.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oh my god, Dad's Love was just the beautifulest queen ever. Man,
she's tiny, she's tiny. But you know what, while we're here,
I need to have a man. I haven't had a
man rap me out yet. I want meet meals. Okay,
my plan. I love meet Meal. That's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Rapper, all right. I think I can't imagine why he
wouldn't do that. I know, I don't think that Philly,
and I was like, because you know, he was playing
meet Meal at the fight and everything. I was like,
Meek should have been here to walk him out, because ah,
in Philly, listen, I need Meet Meal.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I think after that, like I can be able to
retire peacefully.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Is it going to be the next fight in the
Little Caesars again in Detroit?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I think. I think December eleventh, I will be fighting
at Little Suss again.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Oh man, and then the movie comes out. That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You see that's called marketing. What you don't know, I
know all about it. I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
All right. Well, I'm definitely gonna be right there watching
that movie and I'm gonna and I'm gonna try to
come to the fight because I wanted to make it
last time. But it looked like a time. Detroit looked
like they was having an amazing, amazing we did. And
then five o'clock in the morning and had your party
in Flint because you always represent Flint and I love
that too for sure. All right, well, Claricischild, it's such
a pleasure to have you. You know, I got to
(32:31):
get it all up in your business. You never know
what we're gonna say. No, I wish we had another
hour because I got a lot more to talk to
you about. But you'll be back, I will, okay, thank
you the champ.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well
Oh man, Clarissa Shields is here. What's up? Its way
up at Angela ye menos here. We're looking at the
two Olympic gold medalists, but also every single belt you
can possibly imagine. Clarissa Shields got it?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Okay, Hey girl, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How could I not? Y'all know what a big fan
I am of you, not just because of the champion
that you are, but also because of what you're doing
for boxing and for women's boxing. You know, when you
couldn't get the right money and the right situation, You're like,
you know what, I'm gonna do my own fight. And
I always talk about that and put all women on
the under card. When you did that, I was like,
this is game changing for people.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Mm hm. You know, sometimes you can't wait for them
to give you, give you an opportunity. You got to
go and make one for yourself. Yeah, And that's what
I did with that, and people still talk about that
to this day.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
To this day, it's always yeah. And you also have
your own promotion company now right.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
T x X Boxing Promotions. I'm excited about that. I
just find my first two fighter, Samantha Kitchen and Ya Kwamacellroy,
Samantha Kitchener's ringing number three at one hundred and forty pounds.
That's the way class where at Lastia bomb Garden raised
at Katie Taylor, Amanda Serrano, those are the top three
at that weight class. So of course I want to
get her big enough to where she can definitely beat
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all of them.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And if there's anybody that listens to when it comes
to boxing, it's clear fight what.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Heavyweight? Why you beat her like that?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Eh?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Second round?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It was like a minute and ten seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Why would you do it?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It was a disrespect from her that people don't know
what disrespect really is. You know what I'm saying, Like
she walking off all of my face, getting in my grill,
like trying to like press me, trying to press me
with her body. I'm like, I can't even beat her
right now and she's trying to press me. And then
I got to be professional. So it was like when
I got when I was able to have a chance
to put my hands on, I'm like, man, I'm gonna
drop her ass real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
She was about to call the fight. They were gonna
call the fight was her.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Corner was standing up. He didn't haven't had no white towel.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
The footage I saw it was like everybody left the ring,
like y'all all left, and she still was locked out,
knocked out. You know what I'm saying that the helicopter came,
that's crazy was gone. I've seen that the people in
there sweeping and was like.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Shut up to me.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But honestly, that was like the quickest ever, right, you know,
and such an exciting boxer that you are too, because
I think you went in there knowing that you were
going for the knockout.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, you know what. I do that every fight trying
to get the knockout, Like I haven't before this fight.
I have drop girls, thun girls. But I spend so
much time this past year and a half two three
years turning over my punches because my punches were not landing.
They're landing, but they're not landing. How I need them
to land to get the knockout. So we worked so
hard on that.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Why you felt like that they wasn't landing.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
No, they were landing, but they're not landing. They're like
like here or like here. I'm like for real on
the knuckle. Because these are the two biggest, big enough
so if it's if it's landing here and this is
where you want to hit them. So it was like
when my punches, I'm so fast that why I'm not
to turn themucker's over. They just not turn it all
(03:11):
the way. By the by the time I hit you
was here. I need to hear, right. So we worked
so hard to make sure I can twist that over
time and get it over the where it lands. So
it just worked out this fight, and We've been working
so many years on. I'm just happy that it finally came.
Because you know a couple of little haird or something
Chris that got pillow fits, Like, man, I was sleep y'all?
Hos is y'all crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Talk that you started at what? At what weight class?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Because you you did all three three different weight classes, right,
it's five now, so.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Fifty four so that's wells weight in light.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What's wait, no.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Super super because.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Fifty four is super well super, sixty is middleweight, sixty
eight is super middleweight, one seventy five.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You unified every one of those weight classes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I haven't unified, yep. I have unified every last one
of them, but I haven't been undisputed at one seventy five.
Yet that's my next go.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
You just got there. Yeah, that's actually the first fight
at heavyweight. Yep, congratulations.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah that and that's a hard thing today because it
is different.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now because you feel a different in your power, Like
do you feel like you are naturally more powerful at
at middleweight or super middleweight because you know sometimes when
you go up, you might you might lose that power.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Nah. I think I felt the strongest I've ever been
at one seventy five. You know, I fought at sixty
and I was fast, and I was in great shape.
There had an eight pack. I fought at sixty eight,
But seventy five, I'm like, man, how strong I was
in camp? I was sparring a man that was one
hundred and ninety pounds all throughout your life, all throughout
this camp for this fight, you was like one seventy
(04:55):
one sixty. But man, the guy I was sparning against
the first time we sparred to get ready for the
Tabaweay Championship, man he roughed me up. I said, oh shit,
I don't know if I should have came to this
weight class because yeah, he's at one point eighty. But
that's what she's gonna wait for the fight one eight five,
and he roughed me up the first the first time
we sparred, and then and then the second time we sparred,
(05:15):
he wreughed me up a little bit too, and I
was like, damn, like, I gotta figure this out. Because
it wasn't like he was a good boxer, but it
was like I just couldn't figure out how to deal
with the width of his body, you know what I'm saying, right,
and the power. I'm like, dang, So I had to
really you know, I'm used to having a fast hands.
It was like, no, you gotta sit down. So when
(05:36):
I started sitting down on my punches, that's why I
start getting the best out of him and sparring. Okay,
because at first it was like I'm trying to light
him up and he like, I don't care about that
shit against the ropes shoulder body.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm like, God, that's great as far as change, But
it had to have been so frustrating for you because.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You're not used to. No, it was definitely frustrating, but
it gave me something like think about, like you're going
the heavyweight, this is what this is where her game
plan is she can't out box you, if she can't
out speed you, so what she gonna do try to
rough you up. And it's exactly what he's doing. So
I'm like, Okay, I know what I need to do.
So as we kept, as we kept working, I don't know.
It was just one sparing probably two sport stations where
(06:16):
I'm like, know what I'm gonna I'm gonna try this
for this for this Sparns session. We had about eight
rounds in and I remember I just was like, we're
gonna just work on like every punch you throw, like
we're not throwing it unless it's hard and it's flushed.
And when I box like that, oh, it was a
whole different story, A whole different story.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Is that the thing to spa with men?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I've always sparked with men ever since you first started
in the jail.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So so so do most female box to spall with men?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Some do, some don't. But I'll let every man know,
like when you get in the ring with me, I
got so much respect for them. Please don't get in
here playing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Don't take it easy.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
One do not. Because you do that, I'm gonna tell
you to get out the ring across Mariosian like, I'm
a real world champion, don't I don't play in the ring.
So it's like all that, Oh you don't hear girls stuff.
All right, well I'm a woman. Get out.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
How old were you when you won your first gold
in the Olympics seventeen and then you went back to
school after that? High school? You went to graduate from
high school? You know how crazy that is to be
in high school as an Olympic goldposing in the USA.
That's a huge deal.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Nice, very nuts. I remember like I was having my
documentary at the time, t Rex, and they're followed me
all around school and everybody was my friend in I'm like,
you know what have y'all don't even have y'all won't
even speak to me. Give me a pencil paper now, now,
y'all all my cousin and my friends like, y'all so fake.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And you have that documentary and then you also have
the movie The Fire Inside coming out December twenty fifth,
right Christmas. That's gonna be amazing. So Ryan Destiny is
playing you in the movie. Have you seen it yet?
Because being that is coming in it twice okay, and
Tier Jerk I knew it had to be because your
whole story and you know, I think in real life
(08:05):
we see where you are now, so we know you
come out on top, which is amazing, but the journey
to get here, yeah, you wouldn't even be who you
are though without having gone through absolutely of that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know, to win an Olympic gold medal and come
back home and not get one endorsement, not one sponsorship,
like crazy right to have. I don't know whether athlete
has dealt with that and continue to be like, you
know what, I'm gonna go for a second Olympic gold medal.
It's like, no, you know what. I guess the Olympics
ain't what it's cut out to be.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
We can see right now because there's a lot going
on with the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
But that's how I would have felt. But it was
something to me like just because people don't give you recognition,
I mean, you don't get your self recognition.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That taught me that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That taught me that. It's like you're talking about some weight,
so you mad you want Olympic gold medal? No, Like no,
I'm happy as hell and I earned it. But just
because as people don't give you, oh no, endorsement, those sponsorships,
no magazine covers, no Cereal boxes. I mean, I supposed
to feel like what I did wasn't worth nothing. He
was like, what I did was worth a lot. As
(09:10):
you can see a women's boxing now. Had I not
want to go medal back then all these women y'all
see boxing on TV now would not be boxing on TV.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
So that's a question I want to ask you.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Right so, women's boxing been around for a while, but
do you right now feel like you are the face
of women's boxing and you actually are opening up doors
for women right now?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Bigger will say that, Yeah, I know, Terres Crawford will
say that.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
There's not a male fighter right now. You ask them
who's the best humane fighter. Everybody is going to say
curs the shields except oh, Jkie Paul now because he's
a hater. He's a hater. He thinks he think it's
a man of Serrano. But it's like, it's not right.
(09:59):
I don't think anybody would dispute that, except, you know,
except him, because he's a hater. He man that because
I'm a female and I can beat him in a fight.
He's like kind of you know, pressed about it. He's
like Robin boxing for eighteen years. If if, if I
can't beat a YouTuber in a fight, it's a problem,
all right.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I want to get into some other things, you know,
you know I do, because Clari said, last time you
was no longer engaged, you were single. But now you
let me see something. Let me see Okay, now you're engaged.
Is that your engagement ring? Like, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Gaming? Right here?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
So what's going on?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's hold on?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's your right hand, clar I haven't been because last
time we talked about this and now you're engaged again.
Shout out to that man, what's going on? Are you engaged?
You were engaged again? But then I see some of
(10:56):
your tweets. Now this tweet right here, I love a
man who craved me. Not your sex, but my scent,
my vibe, my company. Yeah yeah, okay. So then you
also said I don't cry no where my eyes get
watery and I'll just shake it up. Is that to
do with your relationship or is that to do with
(11:17):
other things?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Probably a bit of both. But honestly, like I'm at
a place in my career where it's just that maybe
we're on a break you know, we're not together right now,
maybe we're on a break. You know. I didn't want
to talk about it because it's just like relationships, you
break up and you get back together. But it's just
like for me right now, it's like I got so
(11:39):
much other things going on. I'm trying to really be
like the greatest I can be. You know, you have
this window right here to be great. Each time you drink,
each time you smoke, each time you do something that
you're not supposed to do, it gets smaller. I haven't
done those things. But it's like time still is ticking,
you know. So I'm twenty nine years old and I
don't got time to be unhappy about nothing. I just
(12:03):
don't have time and.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Said, you just weren't happy. I remember you said that.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, And it's like no, it's like you have to
accept people for who they are. I can't force you
to do stuff that I think should naturally be done.
Like if I like you, massage you, if I like you,
I compliment you, If I like you, I buy your stuff,
if I like you. You know, like it's simple stuff.
I text you, I call you. You don't have to ask
me to call you. Ask me to text you ask
(12:27):
me to like, that's what love is. So if you're
with somebody, who have you doing that? Maybe you're just
not the one. So who are you to keep saying
like that you're the one and get it mad at
this person because they can't deliver on that. So it's like,
at the end of the day, I'm like, look, I
am too damn fine to be sitting here and I'm
(12:47):
the best in the world, not yesterday but today, and
I'm all natural. I ain't got no fake booty, no
fake titties, no nothing. Maybe I gotta go on.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Oh but I said, you probably can't do that, I
would think because.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What girls got fake brass? A couple of.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Them really, because I would think it'd be better not to.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Look ebony bridges her breast bigger than your head.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
If she get punched, huld you just get punched?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
The rift gonna stop it? You don't one got big risks?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But okay, because you posted his birthday the other day
to and celebrated his birthday, all right, Okay, No.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
No I didn't because, like I said, you know, like
I don't think. I don't think I'm the person right
now to be in no relationship.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Right now, right, Sometimes you got to be selfish because
you got things you're trying to accomplish still right now, right,
so you're out trying to accomplish these these goals and
and right now might not be.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
The right time.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Well man, no, as a man, like what she's saying is, toru,
you shouldn't. I shouldn't have to be like you need
to calm and you need to do this, you need
to like these are things that should naturally right. But
I will say some guys, I'm always like, who did
you date before me? That you don't know how to do?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Never?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
He ain't never been with a boss like me.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, And sometimes they don't know like how to they.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Don't require as much. And it's like, but we were
together for and a half years, so it's like you
may not knew that at the beginning, but as we
continue today, you right, I don't really buy my tongue a.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Whole lot, so we can see that. How does that work? Though?
Like you like you know it could get crazy, huh.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I mean you don't put your hands on me?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Doing that? No, it's doing that.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's been it's been tried in my younger years, and I
have to show that's why we are no. But I'm saying,
like what I'm just be like, it's just the with
with their whole relationships. It's just like, you know what
I have to really like for my the last couple
of years, I've ever, I've always chosen everybody over myself,
(14:44):
and not just him, you know, take out him with
the equation, my family, friends, you know, pearents. I've always
put them before me. I've always put like what I
wanted to do second, and it hasn't made me feel good,
you know. So I'm strong enough to where I can
do it and deal with it. But it's been like
very stressful and I've been and I've dealt with depression
and anxiety and it's because of it. And it's like
(15:06):
I asked myself recently, I'm like, what do you said about.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You just knocked the girl out bad?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Like you just slepper that's what you've been working on.
And now I'm twelve thous people show up to see
you fight and now you're upset and you're set, And
I said, why are you saying? And I'm like, one,
I don't want to be in Flint. Two I want
to be out in Dubai somewhere three. I want to
live in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So I said, you're looking at houses. You it's like
I'm on Zillo looking at houses.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I'm not playing out, Okay, No, so I'm doing all that.
And I asked myself, well, that's all the stuff that
you want to do, why aren't you doing it? And
the reason why I wasn't doing stuff was like, oh,
because he may think you're cheating. Oh because this person
will feel left out. Oh because this person isn't ready.
And then I got to a point where I'm like,
do anybody consider me when they're making their decisions to
have fun?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
And you know what your happiness and with the people
that you take care of around you. You can't do
it for people if you're not doing for yourself first. Yeah,
how they alwaysay, put your eyes is your mask on? First?
You got to do that first so that you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Can help president.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Because if you're not good, everybody around you that you
you know, do that for it is not going to
be good either.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Angela.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
You see all these belts up here, Okay, you know
what I'm saying. We got to make sure. And you
know what's funny when you knock people out, they'll be like,
you're my favorite afterward, and that how is that like
when you fight somebody but they're also a fan of
yours and you got to knock them out?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Well, you know what, I believe, I'm all these girls favorite.
I don't even know what they say. Alicia Listen, I
was her favorite. Amanda Serano, she called me quote. She
may say publicly that she's the quote, but privately.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
She knows what.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Forty So yeah, y'all knocking meet which one?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Amanda? If she had the one?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Hey, listen, if she come to fifty four even forty
seven and they got a world tight on the line.
I will make fights with these girls just because I
know I'll have to go like down thirty forty pounds,
but I have a great nutrition, the team, and I
believe that I could do it still be healthy, still
be strong and win.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Probably he was stronger down at losing weight.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Sometimes it do take away some stuff because I did
feel stronger at seventy five than I felt at any
weight class.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Because I looked at Crawford fight, his last fight, he
went from what was with and I feel like this fight,
I feel like he didn't look as strong, his power punches.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
To me, he was in there with a very awkward fighter.
You know this is not I don't think he would
have had that much trouble with Charlo, and Charlo has
been fighting at fifty four or for however long. I
think Blud is very strong. But when you're in there
with somebody who's awkward and you're also coming up a
weight class, I think he just had to get the
cobwebs off of that weight class. Now that he's there,
(17:50):
I think that he'll know what he needs to do
for to train to make his fights better.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Now, I want to ask you about this movie some because,
like you said, it is tear jerker, So talk to
me about what was going through your head like when
you saw it, if there are certain things that was
really you know, you've had a lot of things happened
to you when you were younger, So how was it
for you watching that the first time? And there are
certain things that you're like, maybe I'm not going to
put this in because I know even talking to like
(18:17):
your mom, I'm sure that she's heard you discuss like
your childhood and I don't know, I know you say
your parents and I'm sure that you feel away because
sometimes we want to protect our parents too from the
mistakes that they've made.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think that my mom and my dad portrayed great
in my movie. You know, before Barry Jenkins even started
started recording the movie, he sent me the script and
I read the script and only one thing I wanted
taken out one when I read the script. Actually it
was two, but he took one out and the other
one I let him leave in. But it was one
(18:52):
that was particularly about my mom. I said, I don't
like that that's in there, and that for the whole
world to be able to I don't want my mom
to feel no way toward me. So I had to
let him know, like that part definitely has to come
out if nothing else you changed that, I said, that
has to when he took it out. So when I
watched the movie, it was it was very good. The
(19:13):
only thing I could say about like the beginning of
the movie, it shows me as a little girl boxing,
and I mean, it's in the bottle of my heart.
I never had a problem with sparring nobody in the gym.
When I was a little girl. I came to the
gym head honcho, like nobody was better than me. I
fought better than all of them. But in the movie
it's like, oh, I came in there as this little
(19:34):
girl and the boys were beating me up and taking
it easy on me.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's like, nah, that shit would happened.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
That never happened. And I told him in the movie,
I said, when I read the script, I didn't I
couldn't figure out and play this part. But I said,
had I seen it, I would have told y'all like,
y'all is crazy. Like when I was a kid, from
the age eleven till sixteen seventeen, I was whooping everybody
in the gym, not just little boys, the grown men too.
I was fit teen sparning got that was twenty five,
(20:02):
and he came in there talking some shit. First round,
probably the first thirty seconds, hit me with a jab firs.
He said he don't he don't spark girls, he don't
hit girls. I'm like, all right, whatever. Coach was like, well,
she gonna make you hit her. So he got in there.
He threw a jab and hit me. Boom. He like, man,
it's too easy, man, it's a girl. Blah blah blah.
He threw a jab again, Boom, hit me. Again. Then
all of a sudden he tried. He like, man, I
don't want to spart no girl, And then he kept
(20:23):
doing that. So then he went through that same jab.
I slipped hit him on the right hand. Boom, he
goes flying into the ropes. His eyes got so big,
and I just started whooping his ass. I just had
him on the rope, just beating him down, beating him down.
And that was only round one. I did that for
four rounds, four rounds, and when we got done, he
walked up to me like, man, how old are you
(20:46):
you like twenty or something. I'm like, no, I'm fifteen. Bro.
He was like he like, bro, no, everybody and all
these people with him start screaming. So he told me
you a fifteen year old girl. I'm like yeah. He
was like, I won't even like four years. And he
just was like, man, you probably the hardest person not
an ever spar like. I ain't never got down like that.
I'm like, well, that's your fault for not taking me
(21:09):
seriously and talking about something that you don't spar girls.
I bet I bet next time you come here talking
that shit, you're gonna have your hands up and you're
gonna be ready to spar but I appreciate you giving
me my work, and I wouldn't hit the bag. And
he was just like, she ain't even tired off the
piece of me up, bro, Like she crazy. I'm like,
at the end of the day, boxing is a sport.
It's a sport. I hate this whole female male thing like, yeah,
y'all got penises and we got vaginas. I get it.
(21:31):
But at the same time, if you did the exact
same workouts as a man growing up from the time
you were a kid, you're gonna know how to handle that.
And boxing is not all about strength. Yeah, me and
are born strong girl, bigger bones and bigger next and
all that stuff. But technique matters, skills matters, Like you
think I'll look like this if I went in there
trying to go power for power dudes, Hell, no, head
(21:54):
on a swivel. You're not about to hit me. You
know what.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
It's interesting And I saw you reposted this too, the
whole thing with the Olympic, Yeah, with the trans athletes,
and it was she ain't right, She's not and you
had to take it Iman Khalif, Yeah, and that was
that was unfortunate and you did apologize for for yours
because there was wrong information that was put out there
and yeah, and that she wasn't trans and I saw,
(22:19):
but I think it's important to take accountability. And you
did like say, you know, I was wrong. I had
some wrong information. That's why people got to research. Yeah,
you know more, but.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That was given to me by my team and even
by Fox, so you know before I went on there,
before I talk about this like I'm the face of
women's boxing, so as I go and talk about this,
it's like, look, if there was a transgender who turned
to a female in their boxing, that is completely completely unfair. Me.
I do it that you do it. I do it
(22:57):
because like women against women, women have been brought up
to like sadly, maybe some women even trained less and
not as hard as the men. I don't know. I'm
just saying that for me, I spar against men daily
since I was eleven years old, so rather Eman and
Khalif like if she was a transgender or whatever, I
still would have been like this is the Olympics. I'm
(23:19):
not backing down for no challenges, Like you didn't even
take gold medal for me. She would have to fight
me for that like homegirl, that quick, she's soft. Yeah,
she was bad, she's soft. Oh, I've never been hit
the dart in my life.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
She was like, it's over. That was so fast.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
But that's why it took wildfire. You got like a
little white girl and you think that this is a
transgender and whatever the case may be. And she's crying
these wolf tears, and you think that at the end
of the day, like I said, I wasn't in her
to get hit, but I ain't never I haven't been
hit that hard yet, not even by a man.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And where it was like, oh, just get me out
of here, right, I have been to that point.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
You know what I love about Clarissa, Like, because I've
read so many different stories and articles about you, She's like,
I don't know where you're going with this my life,
you know, because you said the little white girl. You
did a white guy before.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I did my god anthem. If you don't, I'm gonna
seeing a black one with every boy.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
If you don't sit down with that metal.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Lease Bertie. You know the verses Jice high at the lease.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I feel like she was duck in the question. He
was bobbing and weaving that question. No, Listen, I did.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I did that the white guy before, And listen, I
think that I'm probably the easiest motherfucker trick because I
got tricked and we did this about three four weeks
and then I was done with that crap. But man,
I'm not racist or anything, but I am. I am
(25:14):
straight on that I love my black man.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I would if you're gonna end up with somebody from
Flint or Detroit or you know, later in life, Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Hey, Atlanta, got some good looking man, looking man.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But you're still in recovery, so you can't.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
But look, look, my eyes still wonder.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Next time I look, next time I see you, you're
gonna be back engaged again. Maybe girl, you know what
that is?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's what gets on my nerves, right, Like, I'm a
relationship type woman, Like I'm not for the street. I'm
not like the whole dating around and stuff. I'm not
like it's a couple guys like courting me a little bit.
But it's like right now, I'd be like, assuming they
do one thing I don't like, I'd be like, yeah,
fuck that, I'm done. Like like all right, bro, thanks
not it. But you know, when you're at the top
(26:01):
of your game, and I'm really untouched in the industry,
Like when it comes to the Hollywood, can't no guys
say that he ever slept with me? So it's like
I feel like, now it's some type of weird competition
for somebody to be.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Like, oh, yeah, I'm because it's a good look for
a guy too. Guys think about that, they would be like,
get off of your okay, oh I can't you know,
listen our off camera interview be different than this. But honestly,
I like to talk about that side of you because
I felt like you're always talking about boxing, but your
personal life also is maturing at the same time, like
(26:33):
what you have going on outside the ring. You know,
you got your ever last gloves to the limited edition
and again make sure you get them. Yeah, I'm getting
us because I have some pink gloves at home from
the time that I you.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Know, I don't. I'm trying to think am I the
first woman I have a signature glove would ever last?
After do my research, but I feel like I am
and the glove is definitely like we designed it together.
But I'm so happy that it turned out how we did.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Who was the face of women box before Leyla.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, Leila, she retired for like twenty years. You wanted
to fight her at one point.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, but I forg yeah, and it's not gonna happen.
But now, but you know what, you respect it.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
If Matt Tyson can fight against Jake Paul he like
it didn't happen though it's happened in November seventeenth.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
They still gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Look at you know about they still gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I mean, listen, first of all, somebody got on me
because I'm like, bro y'all thinking that Mike Tyson is
still the eighteen year old Mike Tyson, like he's sixty.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, I don't know if that that's the I love
Mike Tyson. I'm a fan. I'm from Brooklyn, so you
know he's a hero.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
But man, if Jake, if Jake hurt Uncle Mike Tyson,
it's gonna be a I.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Just don't like the optics of it.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You know. He's like, look, he's he's younger, he's a
little bit bigger, Like, yeah, he's not the best boxing,
but he's still.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Just yeah, like you know what, I like, what do
you think Okay, I want to ask you what you
think about this because we've talked about Ryan Garcia and
Devin Haney before. What does Devin Haney need to do
now if you were going to tell him as somebody
in the sport, because you know, I have so much
love for Devin Haney, but I want to know what
you think if you were going to advise him should
(28:16):
be his next moves.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
One, I want to say something about Ryan a clown.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, so he was in your DMS and then talking
crazy and then having raised to her baby Ryan Garcia.
So that's the thing with these dudes, right, and then
when you when you expose what he said. He told
me to come at you.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, now now I'm ugly all of a sudden, now
I'm this And then he called me a lesbian or
a lesbo, like baby, I have been called worship things honestly, Right,
You're like, that's fine whatever, whatever, Who cares. It's the fact,
like when Ryan to me, this will make me mad
about the whole situation even in the boxing world, and
make you feel how they feel about it. When Ryan
(28:53):
tested positive and then they got proven that the dude
really did cheat. Bro y'all still.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Riding with Ryan, I don't understand and mad at Devon right.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Clown behavior, clown behavior, like how don't you stick with
the fighter and the brother who did everything right? Nobody
gave a ship about Devon. Right, everybody's still on there tweeting.
There's tweeting that, oh Devin, there's Devin, that Devon's uh
pussy Devon and the and they're saying all this stuff,
and it was like, at the everything you're saying about Devon, it's.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Ryan Ryan, And some people felt like maybe he shouldn't
have taken that fight because Ryan did come in above
weight and he had the opportunity to say, okay, but
you know there's money on the list thing.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
M that's it Astroman. No, Ryan's gonna throw that same
hook no matter he was gonna Ostron or not. But
it wouldn't have been as strong and been as.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Possible because that's just one. He's like a one trick pony.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So that's just one punch that that that left as.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You think that the room was strong enough in his
body to make him.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Absolutely look Devin ain't no knockout artists, but Devin will
take a fight with anybody. To me, Devin is the
better boxer. He's a better boxer, no matter if Ryan's
a little bit bigger or stronger, whatever the case, he's
a better boxer. And I knew that he was gonna
try to outbox Ryan. But to get hit, come on now,
(30:19):
like people are like, they're so stupid to get hit
with the hook the first round and it hurt the
first round, Come on now it drop you like, come
on like that's not even logical, And then people are
tain't disappointed me. I'm sorry, all right, he fucking he
fucking riding with like like that's his brother or that's
(30:40):
his cousin. Like, Bro, this dude is a drug.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Cheap bro, would you if you were Devin Handy, would
you fight him again?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Man? What you can't take no drugs? Drugs against me
and think ain't gonna get my lick back? You're crazy.
I will. I will fight Ryan every time I seen them,
not in the ring. I don't care where we at
the Venetia see him at the club, you better have
your people with you because if I see you, you're right,
you ain't getting away with that.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, listen, I know we gotta go because the show,
you know, has to continue on but Clarissa, every time
you come up here, you know, I always got to
see you. I'll shift whatever around.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yes, no, thank you for that so.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Much, because I love me. Send Clarissa Shills. Like from
the beginning, try Me was the perfect song for you
to walk out to.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oh my god, Dad's Love was just the beautifulest queen ever. Man,
she's tiny, she's tiny. But you know what, while we're here,
I need to have a man. I haven't had a
man rap me out yet. I want meet meals. Okay,
my plan. I love meet Meal. That's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Rapper, all right. I think I can't imagine why he
wouldn't do that. I know, I don't think that Philly,
and I was like, because you know, he was playing
meet Meal at the fight and everything. I was like,
Meek should have been here to walk him out, because ah,
in Philly, listen, I need Meet Meal.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I think after that, like I can be able to
retire peacefully.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Is it going to be the next fight in the
Little Caesars again in Detroit?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I think. I think December eleventh, I will be fighting
at Little Suss again.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Oh man, and then the movie comes out. That's what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You see that's called marketing. What you don't know, I
know all about it. I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
All right. Well, I'm definitely gonna be right there watching
that movie and I'm gonna and I'm gonna try to
come to the fight because I wanted to make it
last time. But it looked like a time. Detroit looked
like they was having an amazing, amazing we did. And
then five o'clock in the morning and had your party
in Flint because you always represent Flint and I love
that too for sure. All right, well, Claricischild, it's such
a pleasure to have you. You know, I got to
(32:31):
get it all up in your business. You never know
what we're gonna say. No, I wish we had another
hour because I got a lot more to talk to
you about. But you'll be back, I will, okay, thank
you the champ.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Well
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