Egypt Sherrod & Mike Jackson Talks Married To Real Estate, Early Stages Of Their Relationship + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up its way up at Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee,
And this is so exciting for me because you know,
I'm very into real estate Egypt Shiada is here and
Mike Jackson is here aka DJ fide here. But you know,
you guys have this show married to real estate. Congratulations.
The third season is about to start, thank you, And
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that is a big deal. And I love watching HGTV
shows because I do love also similar to Egypt, you know,
and to Mike real estate, and also like the whole
design aspect and right now in the middle of gut
renovating a brownstone in Brooklyn, and so I know how
difficult it is when you know you're trying to do
that work for yourself. But what's great is when you're
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helping other people who need it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I agree. That's why I was.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I was really loving the project that saw on social
media you're doing in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I thought that was huge.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Because not only are you trying to address the affordable
housing issue, you're trying to do something for women, but
you're showing other women. Guess what, we could do this together.
We can be strong on our own, but we can
be stronger together. So kudos to you for everything you're
doing and using your platform.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It is important to me because, like I told you,
you know, right before this interview started, I do want
to make sure that with gentrification and people getting pushed
out of Midtown, that we're bringing something that's beautiful because
sometimes even with affordable housing, we want to make sure
it's still beautiful. And so you know, we don't want
it to be like somebody's just trying to get a
quick check.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
We really do care.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So what you're saying is you want us to come
in and design it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Listen, Look that sounds like I'm like that, but you know,
also in Egypt, I've always felt like to me, I
love how you flip from like being in radio to
doing what you do.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
It feels like, first off, I've always.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Admired you from when you are a radio personality, you know,
that's when I was first introduced to you. But seeing
how you've evolved in your career, and it seems like
you love what you do right now, both of you
just being able to be together. He's working as a
contractor and a builder, you're a realtor. Both of you,
you know, doing the work that you do in Atlanta.
It's very admirable.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But it started in New York. Yeah, you know, as
he did.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It started when I was a radio personality in New
York City making a crazy low amount of money. Therefore
I had to work like two and three jobs. One
was as a real estate agent, then became a broker,
but then being an investor. And that's kind of what
saved me. Sometimes we have to work a job while
we build our career. For me, radio was actually the job,
and I know toed some people that's the dream job,
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but it was the safety net. It was, you know,
my benefits while I actually built my career in this
real estate empire we have together. But he was working
all the houses I was flipping, and we fell in
love over black mole.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You like, first of all, right, he's bringing something to.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The table a lot.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Black mould is so disgusting to some.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Kudos to you for that now, but honestly, because people
I will think, you know, and for you, Mike as
a DJ also we know you in that capacity.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
People think when you have these types of jobs that
you're rich.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They hear you on the radio every day and they're like, oh,
you know, she's got it, and they're not understanding that
sometimes you do have to have multiple streams of income.
And I think that's a lot more popular now than
it used to be.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, we didn't have social media, you know, back when
I was starting. I think that you know, many people
we were starting behind. You guys are at least starting
to go because every time you pick up the phone,
you're getting some kind of wealth advice or smart life
advice on what to do. But back then, it was
like figure it out, you know, build your grip. My
first radio job, I was making nineteen thousand dollars a year.
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By the time I got to New York City, and
I literally my face was on billboards in New York
and I was making fifty six thousand dollars a year,
and people thought and I was trained, I was rubbing
nickels together. I mean, I was like, how do people
live in New York City? Like, this's fifty six thousand dollars.
And by the time I was at the half of
my game, I think I had just made two hundred
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thousand working three jobs.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
See my first video job, I was making fifty thousand
dollars a year. So I'll never forget that. But I
will say, like the second year, I went in and
I was like, all right, well, I you know, did
what I did do the first year, and I did
get I did get a good raise when I did that,
But it was like every year I was going in
and asking for it. Did you ever go in and say, look,
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I need a raise or okay?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So yes I did.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Say women don't do that as much as men do.
I did.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I was reading my yellow buns on and I okay,
and I was like, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Here's my speech, and I practiced and I walked in
and you know, told why, laid down my rating showed
you know why I should get a raise and be
paid the same as my counterparts.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And a week later I was fired.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You I won't even say right there, I don't have to,
I know, but I was. I was because I never
knew what happened. I was like, there was there's.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
A which station, but there was a lot that happened
back then, but that that was one of them. And
I found myself on the unemployment line. And you know,
at that time, they're like the max is four hundred
five dollars a week. What you're gonna do with four
hundred five dollars, you know a week? And just then
a billboard with a taxi cab was rolling by, you
know how they have the little triangulars on the top,
and it was of me on my radio show, and
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I said, God, please don't let it stop here, Please
don't let it stop. It stopped right next to me,
and I said, Okay, you're trying to tell me something.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
By the time I got to the front of the line,
I realized that the message was you will never find
yourself on the unemployment line again. You can never put
your destiny, financial or otherwise in somebody else's hands. It's
got to be about ownership. It's not about it's got
to be about creating your own platforms. So real estate
then became a not just a job or a career
or you know, real estate literally became my culture. It
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became the blood that ran through my veins because that
gave me an opportunity to have ownership on one flip
house that made two hundred and twenty five thousand, right that.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Was and I made them two years on radio and listen,
I got my real estate license recently too, and congratulations. Yes,
I'm very excited about because the test once, Yeah, I
got a.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I ain't gonna lie hard.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I studied so hard because people kept telling me, you're
not going to pass on the first time, and everyone
kept saying that to me.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So I was taking all these practice.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Tests like on on YouTube and everything, and I did
the online classes. I didn't go in person, and so
when I went in, I left and I would say,
I'm not too sure what happened, but I did pass
on the first time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, most people take it three times before they passed,
so you should feel good good.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
That three four five, And I won't like my birth're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You, Mike, what happened.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
At least I got it.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So yeah, so now let's pivot to everything that you
guys have going on. Right now, we're married to realist
date and this show actually started.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Was it during a pandemic or right?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It was during a pandemic when everybody was stuck in
the house. Mike just started filming us and our business.
You know, we were teaching the kids at the kitchen
countertop and running our businesses from the dining room table,
and he just started filming. We went back when the
world started to open up and I said, Mike, I
think there's a show here. So we edited it together
a sizzle real, took it over, pitched it to HGTV,
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who I was with already, and they loved it right.
So then we partnered up with fifty one Minds. At
the time, they were doing Ti and Tiny's family Hustle.
But we were like, Okay, they get black people, they
get the black family. They're not gonna want us to
change up anything. You know, they'll get us, and they
really did in a big way. It comes across really authentic.
So yeah, it started with his cell phone and now
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what nineteen million viewers later, here we are.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And I think it also is AGTV loves you like
just seeing the things that you guys have done already.
And he was always in the background when you were
in the forefront, just actually supporting what it is that
you do, making sure everything got done right too, which
is really helpful.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I had no problem with it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, yeah, so let me throw this up. Here's my confession, Angela.
He was doing all the work and I was looking
like I did it on camera.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
That's what I'm talking about. That's how smart people working now.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But a few times I told our old production company,
I said, y'all need to just turn the camera round.
The real show is what's happening back here. Yeah, and
they wouldn't, but you know, everything has its time.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And people need to see that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And it's also nice to see you have three daughters,
to see you guys interact with them. I saw on
the episode where she was going to the dentist for
the first time.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh you give you given the inside school because that
season three.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, so that's the the I did get a little
bit of a sniffet of what's about to happen. But
it's just really cute to see your interactions.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
As a girl dad and being in the house with
four women.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You know what. I wouldn't have it any other way though.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I mean sometimes they can find me crazy on a Monday,
but I wouldn't have a dog.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Okay, got to at least right somebody to talk to.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
No, seriously, I do not mind it, Angela.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
When I tell you I wouldn't have any other way,
I solely mean that I get to be authentically mean
in every facet emotionally, you know, physically, I am there
and I tell fellows all the time, loving them more
doesn't make you any less of a man, because a
lot of dudes feel.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Like, oh, I got girls, I got it. I can't
be hard.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
You don't have to be you feel what I'm saying like,
you can be as corny as you want, cliche as
you want, you know, as much as you want, and
still be a man.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Why do guys feel like they can't be like that
with their sons? Go like, what the same way? You know,
if you can be mushy with your daughter and you
can be loving and affectionate with your daughter.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I just think a lot of guys think it's differ.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Don't want to be I got to make sure he
knows that the real world that's false, because you can
be you can teach them both aspects.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Right, you know what I mean? Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So when everything was like when you were leaving New
York where you and Mike together already.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We've been together nineteen years.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, so yeah, so what was that like and how
did their relationship kind of because that's a difficult time too,
and you're like, I don't have this job anymore. Sometimes
even for yourself esteem because you've had been doing that,
and that's how people knew you. That can be hard,
even carrying over to your relationship.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So actually that's not why I left New York because
when I lost that first job, I went to real
estate and I was making more in real estate than
I'd ever made in my life, and I became Rookie
of the Year, and then I got my broker's license
and I really built myself up. So when I got
the call to go back to radio here in New
York at another station, my first answer was no, because
I know what that's going to look like. But then
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I got smart and said, well, I can actually look
at this like a four hour commercial for my business.
If I go back, they'll pay me. But then I
get to integrate real estate and balance spoke because I'll
never make that mistake again of not having my own
And that's what I did. I went back to radio
here for a couple of years. But when I got
pregnant with our first child, and I say this because
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you don't have children yet, right. What a lot of
people also didn't realize is that entertainment, at least here
we were guarded by a union. And when I got pregnant.
I thought I had health insurance either through the radio
station or through the union, because I was paying dues
and I was working right, and when I got ready
to go out, not one of them was paying my
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health insurance for me to deliver my child.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
What?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And that is when I quit radio and left and
I left New York, I was done.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I was done.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So you mean to tell me all these years, dudes
and everybody's pointing fingers about who's going to pay my
hospital bills when it's time to deliver my baby?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
You were like, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Done?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah now, and listen, real estate is I think all
about trust? Like I was saying, I just got my license,
and I've been doing a lot of stuff in this space.
The reason I didn't even intend to get my license,
I basically during a pandemic, was like, I'm going to
take these classes just because I felt like because I've
been purchasing things. We talked about the building. I have
some other properties, a brown I have a two Brownstones.
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I have a condo and Williamsburg. I just did something
in Miami, and then I have an airbnb upstate New
York and I have another house in Detroit, and I
flipped some stuff in Detroit too, and I got.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Houses, y'all got thousands.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I said to myself, was I should go ahead and
get my license. Well, first, I said I should take
the classes just because I wanted to learn more, because
I never wanted to be in a situation where I'm
talking about things and doing things but don't know all
the ins and outs, because some of that stuff is
very unglamorous. It's nice to go show a house and see, oh,
this room has this, and here's the split system and
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the floor, but it's way different when there's a lot
of ins and outs and really meticulous details. And so
I was like, well, let me learn those things so
I never feel like I don't know what I'm talking about.
And then I was like, I might as well just
go ahead and take the test.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That's exactly what happened with me when I started as
an investor, and I saw some of the checks the
real estate agents were getting, and I said, wait a minute,
Wait a.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Minute, there's some money being left on this treat Because
it's illegal to get paid from real estate unless you're licensed,
So even if you do a referral.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
You can't get anything from that legally.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
What I love though, is actually seeing other women from
entertainment be about their business. Seeing you really be about
your business while you have this platform.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I love it. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
There are many people who tell me, Egypt, you inspired
me to get in the real estate, or you inspired
me to do X, Y and z Z. But you're
inspiring this new generation of people, and I think it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That's what we should be using on our plan.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, and you also have a furniture line, which I
think is amazing because I feel like that is a
natural progression for you. So can we talk about that
for a second.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Please.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Look, I'm not going to stop you because I love
furniture shopping. Yeah. But oh and well, okay, you know what,
I'm gonna buy some wallpaper and.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
A real estate brokerage and a design firm. It's all
called Indigo Road. So I used to for twenty years.
I owned Egypt Shirode real Estate and Design Group. He
owned Jackson Draper Construction and we would work together, but
it never hit us to just bring the companies together
as one and build a legacy company. So that's what
we decided to do. We opened our office is in Atlanta.
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We're going to be opening to in Texas as well.
Indigo Rote real Estate brokerage, Indo Goo Rotrealty dot Com
design group. We got a whole virtual design department. We're
going to be doing some very big projects for some
celebrities you'll be saying soon. And then construction of course.
And the furniture line, which is available or sold out
now on Wayfair.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, that's great because and I want to know what
inspire you to do that, because I will say, as
I shot for furniture, sometimes it's hard to find things
that doesn't look very like old fashion or you know,
so I'm always like, man, I want to see and
so I like what you have or have?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Okay, So I'll be sending you something, but you have
because it's all sold out.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
As a mom, like three kids and our youngest is four,
our eldest is twenty two. So as a mom, I
wake up with this list of things that I want
to do for myself.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Every day.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I told my husband this, and by the end of
the day I felt like I wasn't a comp wishing
any of them because it's like, Mama need this and
this and then clients need this, my husband needs this.
He wants me to hang from the chandeliers.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And you know, at the end of the day, it's
only why did he tasted that same.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I got it hard enough, he put a brace.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But but I told him, I said, twenty twenty three
is like my year of attacking my bucket list, everything
I wanted to do for myself. If twenty twenty three
closes and I didn't do all of this, then I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Gonna feel like I failed, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And so he could have been selfish and said, well,
what about me too, and he said, no, this is
your year. Whatever you want to do, I'm gonna get
behind it. You want wallpaper, you want frondsire, whatever. So
he let me travel, he let me do the meetings,
and he was doing hair. As y'all saw on social media,
he was corn rowing today time.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
My head game is mean, it could be a future.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
It's a little thing where he should have said, you know,
it's fine, and Mike for years a contactor.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You know, I also feel like it's really hard to
get good people to come in and do the work
on home. So you grew up with your family kind
of knowing how to do that type of work, right.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I was got into the business with my uncle and
my grandfather. They had their own business and they would
always tag me along and show me the ropes.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
But at that time, I wasn't supposed to be there
because when you're working on construction sites, it's sixteen and
then it's eighteen to actually do physical.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Labor, Okay, right, But I was there.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Twelve years old, thirteen year old, so I saw the
engine and outs. And then later on in life as
an adult, you know, I started working here in New
York City with Local twenty eight sheet metal workers, which
is duckwork anything metal that was us. He became a
journeys man, which is the top of the tier within
the trade, and then for my business and then took
it to Atlanta and Jackson Draper Renovations.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
We've been knocking it out ever since.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
People don't understand being able to have those skills is
life saving. Like if there's certain things you could do
in your home on your own, you know how much
money that saved you. When I think of how much
I've been spending on things, and even knowing what you're
supposed to spend on things, because they'll tell you anything.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That's when I realized he was my husband, because I
met him in the nightclubs DJ and you know, I
saw him at the Puerto Rican Day Parade on the
float and the whole thing. We flirted, but I would
never get with him because to me, he was just
an industry guy.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It wasn't until I called my mentor Ulysses and said,
I need you to send a team over to this house.
I had to just fire the other one. He showed
up not a DJ, and when I saw him working
in contact to not a DJ, but when I didn't know,
you know, and I saw him working with his hands,
and then you know.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I was like, oh my god, that's so sexy.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
He's so sexy. Count just get it. Fleet The value
in that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Get you a man that can fix something, Give you
a man that knows a trade and knows a skill.
These ladies fifty five and old to really understand the
value that we go to visit our aunts.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
You know, everybody lives in Florida.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, if they're over.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Forty five, they live in Florida. We go down and
visit all the family down there. And the minute we
hit this community. All the old ladies come up to him,
They got their legs wrapped around and they're rubbing his head.
They give me their cameras and want me to videotape it,
and then they're like, can I.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Just borrow him?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I got like ten things that need to be fixed
in my house. They are hot thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Safe to say. We don't go Florida.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You got a Golden Girl fan club.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But you know, it is amazing to see you guys
helping people get their dream homes because it's also not
easy to find a realtor you can trust. I remember
buying my first ever house in Brooklyn and having multiple
reltors until I found one who I was comfortable with.
And that is a real relationship where somebody's not just
trying to sell you anything, but they're also trying to
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make sure it's the right situation and advocating for you
and not just trying to get that check.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Listen, I say that you're real to the same way
you wouldvet somebody who is going to watch your child.
If you're not just gonna leave you kids with anybody,
they've got to be somebody who's skilled, who knows their
profession who you can trust, who you've done a background
check on. Do the same thing with someone who's gonna
represent you on quite possibly the largest purchase in your life,
right right, So do that diligence and then let them.
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Then let them do what they do. Trust them to
be the quarterback of your real estate dream team. That's
the other part.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Go get your own license up.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, that's fact.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And it's also important for people to have options. And
I love how you present, like, Okay, so I know
you wanted this, but here's this, but here's another option
that might be. You know, I'm gonna let you decide.
I'm not going to push you any which way. And
I think that's important where you're not just saying here's this,
but it shows that you do your work when you're like,
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all right, here's the different things.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Here's what this could look like. How about we try this.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Now, this will cost this, but we can stay within
your budget if we do it this way. You know,
I think that's really important for people to also understand
that because a lot of times when we go into
and I just think of myself when I was in
New Be not knowing anything, and how you have to
really have that trust in somebody that they're doing all
this work for you to just make your life simpler.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But it's just learning your client.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's that process, Yes, is really understanding what it is
that they need, and sometimes what our clients think.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They need is not really.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
For instance, had a woman client recently almost sixty years old,
going into a new chapter of her life and she
wanted to move. She hadn't even thought about a townhouse.
But my thing is, you say you want to travel,
you say you don't want house maintenance. They got townhouses
with elevators. You can live here too, Yeah, you know,
just come look at it, and it was perfect for her.
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But really assessing not just what the client says, but
where are they at every chapter in their life and
what is going to be best for them and show them,
show them the options. But you said you just got
your license. My question for you is, what's the plan.
Is it just to you know, buy your own properties
and be able to keep those checks, which are smart,
or are you thinking you're going to represent clients as well?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I do want to represent client, because yeah I do,
and I actually have already signed on to an agency.
Havn't an I'm sir hand okay, okay, yeah, so I.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Did just all right, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But no, I'm.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Saying, you know, if you want to be with.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
A minority own a former radio personality who understands your plight.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, I'm joking, but it's great.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
My plan is really to learn a lot more and
I do want to do that. Like, my family has
some properties after my grandparents pass that they want to
so I'm going to represent them on that. And they
had a difficult time trying to find somebody that they
trusted because you know, for some people when things like
that happen and it involves multiple people just finding the
right person that you could trust, even to sell your property,
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you know, it's not easy to make sure that it's
price right and to even know that, you know, those
percentages are negotiable.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
So she's listening.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
To how she put her Really she knows you remind.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Me of myself.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I swear to you, remind me of myself like twenty
years ago on the radio doing just this. But she's
trying to walk out of here with an HGTV show.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Is not playing.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But I feel like, you know, markets are so like
Atlanta is on fire right, and so I know it
was really tough even for people to get homes. I've
seen people who are putting in office for homes and
going through and losing their homes that they're like not
even getting to buy it even though for was accepted,
you know.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
So it is such a competitive market.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So for you guys trying to make sure that you
are representing your clients and getting them what they need,
sometimes that could be heartbreaking when you're like, I'm trying
to get this deal.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I mean, you know, I never want clients to overpay
for anything, but the market is going to always dictate
to us what something is worth. How much is a
person willing to pay, And if you got twenty people
overbidden for it, then that is what the market is
saying that it's that it's worth right now. But over
the last two years, yeah, it's been a short shortage
of housing inventory, specifically in the Southeast region but across
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the nation. That's what we've been experiencing that they couldn't
keep up, you know, with the building demands those two
years where COVID set us back with materials just being
stuck on the seas. So we're still playing, we're still
playing catch up for But what else you want to
talk about better than real estate atlandemic?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Like we're married to.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Real estate, but we can talk about other things.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I was gonna say, but that pandemic really made that
real estate in Atlanta go up through the roots.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Okay, So one of our properties has had more than doubled,
right in fifteen months.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's more than double because of that.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Wow, Yeah, that's a great feeling.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You know what I did for the first time, I
did a pre construction purchase and the building's not even
done yet and it's already worth like.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Double what I paid for pre construction.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Island not pocketbooks about farmland. You remember Cardi B said she'd
rather have a burkingness and property sometimes, and she did
say that, And I'm gonna tell you what I understand
from that though, because I would say this like another
side that we don't because real estate is great when
the investment's good, whatever, But when you have tenants who
aren't paying, when you have to evict people, and that's
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such a long process not have to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
But there's so many you know, I think that people
are being They're very one dimensional about how you think
that you can earn money off of real estate. I mean, really,
what's being overlooked is the fact that you can just
rent out a piece of your land and allow a
tower to be put up, or allow billboards to be erected,
you know, and get ten to twenty thousand dollars a
month off of just allowing that on a piece of
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your property. That doesn't include what you could actually rent
the house for, or depending upon what type of land
it is, what you could lease the land for.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So, I mean there's so many opportunities to make money
that are being overlooked. But mark this day, in this
moment when I'm saying this, the real money to be
made is going to be an agricultural land. Okay, that's
just the direction, that's the wave right now, get some farmland.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Sit on it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I don't care if you put tents on it, have
retreats and gumba y'all on it.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Get some farmland. I feel you on that.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Now. I want to ask you, since you said we
could talk about other things, you know, other than real estate,
So could you ever see yourself coming back to radio
or you feel like there's a permanent bad taste in
your mouth?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
No, not a bad taste.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Let me tell you something. I was a radio host
for twenty years. Yes, you were, and it was an
incredible experience. It was just a chapter in my life
that I was done with. I felt like I've done
all I can do. I wanted to say more than
I could say. There were podcasts at that moment, you know,
I wanted to say more than what I could in
thirty seconds in between songs. But also there was a
lot of pain tied to that radio journey for me.
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Mike knows he was there with me, you know, along
the way. Hopefully you know what I'm saying when on that.
As a woman, often in the entertainment business, we can
be dragged.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Absolutely, And with social media it's not any better right now,
It's even but but even behind the scenes, it is
not easy. And I think sometimes people just don't understand
it if you're not in it, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Well no, let's let's just let's just speak to it,
because I think that we have to write anything I
know about you, your career, your show is that you
You're very honest.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You asked the straightforward questions.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yes, the reality is that often women in entertainment we
have been minimized.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
To boobs that laugh.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Okay, and when you want to grow and you got
something substantial to say, and you as my shirte to
thank you. But but you know, so when you get
to a place of where you feel and listen, in
anything that we do, there's going to be a season.
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You got to recognize what season you're in. And as
the season turns, so do you. And so I recognize
that in that season of my life it was time
to turn. It just was nothing left for me. I
am grateful for it, but there's nothing left that I
can do that I can't do on my own social
media channels.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And I also feel like, you know, just even mental
health was not a big conversation back then like it
is now.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
But even mentally you have to feel like sometimes.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're supposed to feel like this is the best opportunity
in the world, and how could you, you know, not
want to do this, But then mentally it can be
so draining that you're like, I would much rather do
anything else.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well, I don't think people understand how mentally taxing it
is to entertain. Comedians will tell you, you know, you kind
of look at the stats. A lot of comedians who
have mental health issues too, And I was listening to
a Wanda Sykes to even talk about it, to entertain
You're giving more than just physically being there. You're giving
your spirit, You're giving your personal journey, You're just you're
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giving it all. It is like working twelve hours a day,
even if you're only on stage four hour. So yeah,
sometimes you would rather just, you know what, let me
go get a day job.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I mean, Angela.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
It falls into the place where I say all the time,
the three biggest things in life are should I say
keys is health, happiness and peace, because if you take
those out of any situation, everything else becomes mundane. You
can have all the money in the world, but if
you're not happy, it won't matter. Right, have all the
materials in the world, but if your health is fludy,
it doesn't matter. So your health, happiness, and peace or
your top goals in it all.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
He's sexy.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I love him.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I love that for you.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I love that for both of you though, because I definitely,
like you said, you've been you had did radio for
twenty years and you're somebody I've always paid attention to.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like, it's crazy that we're just meeting.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I know, and we follow each other.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Every time you do something, I'll report on it, and
you know, for me, it's always like, because I'm in radio,
I've heard stories about things that have happened. I've seen
things that you've said, you know, about your experience and
your journey, and I'm happy to see the space that
you're in now, you know, because I feel like I
look to you as somebody when it came to me
wanting to do real estate, You're the person that I'm like, Okay,
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I kind of want to follow that path, right, you
know that Egypt has I still enjoy doing radio and
I'm you know, very excited to have my own show
and start this journey and I'm working really hard on it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But I also feel like, like you said, thank goodness,
we have other things, because I never want to feel
like I need to have this or I don't have anything.
I've always wanted to make sure I establish myself another way,
so that I'm doing this just because I want to,
not because I have to.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I had an opportunity to interview Oprah Winfrey and I
asked her for her advice some some years ago, and
I just said, like, how do I break through? What's
the breakthrough moment? And I never forget? She told me,
Number one, find what you are passionate, truly passionate about,
and go hard in the paint for it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But then additionally hard in the paint.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
She said hardin askh today. She told me, essentially go hard. Okay, right,
but you got to find what you are authentically good
at and authentically passionate about. And if you're not passionate
about something anymore, it's gonna show, right, And I felt
like that for that career with me. You know it
was going to show, but I forgot, so you interrupted me.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know I'm over forty.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Now, can't You got to go hard and stop playing.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Having to do something?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, she told me to sign my own set.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Never mind what you want.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But we were talking about basically doing something because you
want to, not because you have to.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's not what we were talking about. What I was
gonna say was really good, and I lost the.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Thought and some advice Oprah gave you.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
He knows me by now, he knows if your whole
train of thought it was good.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But listen, because it feels amazing you have your husband
on your journey both of you enjoy actually working with
each other. What's your times? What's your rules for when
you guys clash? Like, do you have rules on how
to handle it? Like I know he doesn't like to
talk right in the midst of it. Like, what are
the rules for when you guys don't agree?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Rules for when we don't agree? Well, One, never get
disrespectful towards each other. Right, that's a definite, no matter
what it is, I won't disrespect her and vice versa. Two,
No need to yell at each other. Right, raise the
conversation out our voice. And three I'll pull it into
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a closet and just kissing, rush your mouth.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
That's how he disarms me if I just if I'm
having a moment like you know, we we do on
set sometimes and obviously in our businesses, you know, we
have disagreements. And for the first time a couple of
weeks ago, I was upset with him and my uncle
and I was like, I quit. He's like, you can't
quit your own business quick.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
You can fire us, you can't. You can't quit the show.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You can't quit.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I said, I quit everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I mean it lasted like five minutes. But that's how
he disarms me, he'll let me just go, go go,
and then he grabs me, and I'm like, okay, you
got it anywhere you win. I mean, it's just it's
going to happen. It's just real. Nineteen years we would
be fake if we sat here and I feel like
we don't have disagree I.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Always feel like in the relationships, it's important to know
how to argue because you're going to like, there's no
way you don't. There's no way, because then somebody doesn't
care if you're not, you know, passionately disagreeing on things.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You can't bring up old stuff. Okay, that's the thing,
you know, if you've worked through it already.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
We talked through it. We you know, dissected it and
decided that we were.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Past it in the midst of that argument, you cannot
bring up what I did ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
That's fighting thirty right, it's pasted. We moved past it.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Sometimes you got to choose your battles too, you know,
if it really isn't a big deal, just hit a
person out right. Don't listen to debate, Listen to actually
hear what they're saying. Because sometimes we're realist, Like, all right,
So she finished, I'm kidding it right, you're not even
paying to that, because otherwise it's just going to blow
up and continue over and over and shuttle it right
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there in the moment versus trying to carry it on
throughout the week. That's one of our biggest things, especially
for me. You know, we'll get into it and I'm like,
all right, it's Tuesday, Wenesday, I'm still Friday.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
How to get bet at that?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know? And I think you know, he told me
something one time and it really struck me because it
was so true. And he said to me, Babe, sometimes
it's the way you say it. It's not what you're saying,
it's the way you say it. It comes across Mannish.
Now when you say to your wife you're coming across managed.
That cuts really deep. But I was like, what you mean?
And I was like, oh, just the way I just
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said it, like DMX, I just said it, like what
you mean?
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Managed?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But you know, when I had committed to doing more
listening than talking, and he explained to me that you know,
you can be soft. I'm here for you can be
soft and you can be gentle, and you know you're not.
Don't fight me you've had to fight the world. Don't
fight me like I'm on your team. And I do
believe a lot of women because we're out here fighting
in the world for our place in life. We're out
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here fighting, you know, to be respected. Were fighting for
the same salaries with fight. It's like when do you
look up and realize you're shadow boxing?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know, I don't have to fight anymore. And I
was able to sink into my femininity when I realized
I was safe.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And one thing I'll say, because that is so true.
I have this piece of art that I bought. I
don't know if you guys. Do you guys collect art?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
We do?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Okay, I want to talk about that too. But I
had this piece of art that I bought. But the
reason I bought it was it really spoke to me
because it was like some boxing gloves and he's standing
there and it's got like emojis on the boxing gloves.
But anyway, it just reminds me that every day I
was going outside, I felt like I had to fight
every single day, like just to make it through the day.
You know, things are way better now, but it definitely
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was something that I was like at that time, I
was like, Okay, let me get this, because every time
I look at it, I'm like, urry, let's get ready
to go outside and go fight. And it's nice to
feel like you don't have to do that, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, But so what color were your boxing gloves? And
that one they were blue?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
They were blue.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I had some pink. It's funny that you say that.
I asked, and I had those pink.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I have pink boxing gloves in real life at home. Yeah,
in real life.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
But I had to take the box because we don't
realize even some of the things around does a symbolic
and how much they feed the music we listen to.
Even if we're like no, like that's my joy now,
the music you listen to sometimes is a vibration that
can carry you into an aggressive state.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Absolutely right, everything we're taking it in.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So I had these boxing gloves that my office was
right by the front door, and they were hanging up
there for years, and I realized, like how symbolic that was.
Every time I went out, I felt like I had
to fight, fight, fight, fight, And I don't want to
fight anymore. I just want to live a soft life.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So girl, Harper has.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And then let's talk about the new show on at
TV that you guys are going to be.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
You're judging, right, competing, We're.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Not competing judge Battle of the Mountains. We competed on
Rock the Block, right, but Battle Mountain. We're just coming
in this judges.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Not just competed one. That's just one.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
But but I don't mound. We're just coming in and
we're judging. There are there's one, two, three, four, four teams.
Four teams.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Yeah, it's three, three teams. It happens in Colorado, and
it's actually really on the mountains and each house is
totally different and they have well I can't.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Give too much work, you can't get right.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Bottom line is it's a full on brawl.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
On a mountain in Colorado and it gets crazy and
we judge it and it is definitely one of the
stronger competitions that you're going to see on HGTV.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Since you say you love all that, I do.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I watch all of that, and so you know, just
to conclude this, I want to say that I love
seeing you guys on ah cz F because I feel
like we need that representation. You know, you don't know
who you're affecting just by seeing both of you on there,
seeing black people, a black woman, a black man doing
the work and having shows on there. Because you know,
I don't feel like we see us in that space
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as much as we should.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
So what does that tell us too, that we've got
to support and watch? You know, if we want to
see more, it's always going to boil down to numbers.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It's own business game.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So if you want to see more of us, you
want to see more Egypt and Mike, you got to
actually show up and watch the numbers show up.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, you got to tell your aunties and your uncles
and your cousins.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Are girls club.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Okay, to make sure we have Angela.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
We have fans, not fans, right, we don't call them.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I say that to say to speak to what you
just said, because we get approached a lot, and it's
never like a fandom onum Craze. It's more of a
family situation. Come here, let me give you a hug. Right,
They'll pull us close and they say listen, please keep
doing what you're doing. It's hey, I just set my
son down to watch the show and he was enamored
by what he saw. He saw hisself in your show.
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I was at a wedding and a young man approached me.
He had to be about twenty five, and he goes.
The one thing you may not know, because I'm sure
people approach a lot is I look at you as
a father figure because I didn't have a father. And
to see you with your family and you know, representing us, well,
please don't stop. And when you hear that stuff over
and over again, you're like, we're doing it right. Let's
continue to do on this path, right, it's necessary.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
He's sexy.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Okay, the.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
To date some stuff over there. I don't know. I cant.
HG TV does a show on Brownstones in Brooklyn, Angela.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
We we know that.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
We understand she's got her real estate license. She's about
to do the dang on things. She's buying properties. What
do you which building you want us to come renovate?
I try to come come to a special with you.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I would love that in Detroit, so these women can
have an amazing place to call home in midtown in
a landmark district. Yeah no, it should be done hopefully
in like June or July.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
So they've been like.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, so you've already started we've already started. They're doing
the flooring right now. Yeah, I'll tell you about the issues.
But other than that though, everything has been pretty smooth.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
So right now, on this day, this moment in time,
we're gonna market y'all. Angelae Egypt and Mike we're gonna
figure out a project to do together, Okay, and we're
gonna pitch it, and it's gonna be on HGTV I Focus,
so it shall be right.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
I'll pitch right after.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
All Right, well, Egypt, you're out of Mike Jackson, married
to real estate.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
When does the new season start?
Speaker 6 (39:21):
December twenty eighth, nine pm? Okay, HGTV stream W Max.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, every third, perfect timing because it's the holidays, and
that's what we give to you. All right, Well, thank you,
and I'll definitely be watching, as you know, I already
have been. So thank you so much for joining us.
I appreciate it.
What's up its way up at Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee,
And this is so exciting for me because you know,
I'm very into real estate Egypt Shiada is here and
Mike Jackson is here aka DJ fide here. But you know,
you guys have this show married to real estate. Congratulations.
The third season is about to start, thank you, And
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that is a big deal. And I love watching HGTV
shows because I do love also similar to Egypt, you know,
and to Mike real estate, and also like the whole
design aspect and right now in the middle of gut
renovating a brownstone in Brooklyn, and so I know how
difficult it is when you know you're trying to do
that work for yourself. But what's great is when you're
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helping other people who need it.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I agree. That's why I was.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I was really loving the project that saw on social
media you're doing in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I thought that was huge.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Because not only are you trying to address the affordable
housing issue, you're trying to do something for women, but
you're showing other women. Guess what, we could do this together.
We can be strong on our own, but we can
be stronger together. So kudos to you for everything you're
doing and using your platform.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It is important to me because, like I told you,
you know, right before this interview started, I do want
to make sure that with gentrification and people getting pushed
out of Midtown, that we're bringing something that's beautiful because
sometimes even with affordable housing, we want to make sure
it's still beautiful. And so you know, we don't want
it to be like somebody's just trying to get a
quick check.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
We really do care.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So what you're saying is you want us to come
in and design it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Listen, Look that sounds like I'm like that, but you know,
also in Egypt, I've always felt like to me, I
love how you flip from like being in radio to
doing what you do.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
It feels like, first off, I've always.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Admired you from when you are a radio personality, you know,
that's when I was first introduced to you. But seeing
how you've evolved in your career, and it seems like
you love what you do right now, both of you
just being able to be together. He's working as a
contractor and a builder, you're a realtor. Both of you,
you know, doing the work that you do in Atlanta.
It's very admirable.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But it started in New York. Yeah, you know, as
he did.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It started when I was a radio personality in New
York City making a crazy low amount of money. Therefore
I had to work like two and three jobs. One
was as a real estate agent, then became a broker,
but then being an investor. And that's kind of what
saved me. Sometimes we have to work a job while
we build our career. For me, radio was actually the job,
and I know toed some people that's the dream job,
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but it was the safety net. It was, you know,
my benefits while I actually built my career in this
real estate empire we have together. But he was working
all the houses I was flipping, and we fell in
love over black mole.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You like, first of all, right, he's bringing something to.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The table a lot.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Black mould is so disgusting to some.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Kudos to you for that now, but honestly, because people
I will think, you know, and for you, Mike as
a DJ also we know you in that capacity.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
People think when you have these types of jobs that
you're rich.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They hear you on the radio every day and they're like, oh,
you know, she's got it, and they're not understanding that
sometimes you do have to have multiple streams of income.
And I think that's a lot more popular now than
it used to be.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, we didn't have social media, you know, back when
I was starting. I think that you know, many people
we were starting behind. You guys are at least starting
to go because every time you pick up the phone,
you're getting some kind of wealth advice or smart life
advice on what to do. But back then, it was
like figure it out, you know, build your grip. My
first radio job, I was making nineteen thousand dollars a year.
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By the time I got to New York City, and
I literally my face was on billboards in New York
and I was making fifty six thousand dollars a year,
and people thought and I was trained, I was rubbing
nickels together. I mean, I was like, how do people
live in New York City? Like, this's fifty six thousand dollars.
And by the time I was at the half of
my game, I think I had just made two hundred
(04:02):
thousand working three jobs.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
See my first video job, I was making fifty thousand
dollars a year. So I'll never forget that. But I
will say, like the second year, I went in and
I was like, all right, well, I you know, did
what I did do the first year, and I did
get I did get a good raise when I did that,
But it was like every year I was going in
and asking for it. Did you ever go in and say, look,
(04:25):
I need a raise or okay?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So yes I did.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Say women don't do that as much as men do.
I did.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I was reading my yellow buns on and I okay,
and I was like, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Here's my speech, and I practiced and I walked in
and you know, told why, laid down my rating showed
you know why I should get a raise and be
paid the same as my counterparts.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And a week later I was fired.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You I won't even say right there, I don't have to,
I know, but I was. I was because I never
knew what happened. I was like, there was there's.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
A which station, but there was a lot that happened
back then, but that that was one of them. And
I found myself on the unemployment line. And you know,
at that time, they're like the max is four hundred
five dollars a week. What you're gonna do with four
hundred five dollars, you know a week? And just then
a billboard with a taxi cab was rolling by, you
know how they have the little triangulars on the top,
and it was of me on my radio show, and
(05:21):
I said, God, please don't let it stop here, Please
don't let it stop. It stopped right next to me,
and I said, Okay, you're trying to tell me something.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
By the time I got to the front of the line,
I realized that the message was you will never find
yourself on the unemployment line again. You can never put
your destiny, financial or otherwise in somebody else's hands. It's
got to be about ownership. It's not about it's got
to be about creating your own platforms. So real estate
then became a not just a job or a career
or you know, real estate literally became my culture. It
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became the blood that ran through my veins because that
gave me an opportunity to have ownership on one flip
house that made two hundred and twenty five thousand, right that.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Was and I made them two years on radio and listen,
I got my real estate license recently too, and congratulations. Yes,
I'm very excited about because the test once, Yeah, I
got a.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I ain't gonna lie hard.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I studied so hard because people kept telling me, you're
not going to pass on the first time, and everyone
kept saying that to me.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
So I was taking all these practice.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Tests like on on YouTube and everything, and I did
the online classes. I didn't go in person, and so
when I went in, I left and I would say,
I'm not too sure what happened, but I did pass
on the first time.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, most people take it three times before they passed,
so you should feel good good.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
That three four five, And I won't like my birth're
talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You, Mike, what happened.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
At least I got it.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So yeah, so now let's pivot to everything that you
guys have going on. Right now, we're married to realist
date and this show actually started.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Was it during a pandemic or right?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It was during a pandemic when everybody was stuck in
the house. Mike just started filming us and our business.
You know, we were teaching the kids at the kitchen
countertop and running our businesses from the dining room table,
and he just started filming. We went back when the
world started to open up and I said, Mike, I
think there's a show here. So we edited it together
a sizzle real, took it over, pitched it to HGTV,
(07:26):
who I was with already, and they loved it right.
So then we partnered up with fifty one Minds. At
the time, they were doing Ti and Tiny's family Hustle.
But we were like, Okay, they get black people, they
get the black family. They're not gonna want us to
change up anything. You know, they'll get us, and they
really did in a big way. It comes across really authentic.
So yeah, it started with his cell phone and now
(07:49):
what nineteen million viewers later, here we are.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And I think it also is AGTV loves you like
just seeing the things that you guys have done already.
And he was always in the background when you were
in the forefront, just actually supporting what it is that
you do, making sure everything got done right too, which
is really helpful.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I had no problem with it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, yeah, so let me throw this up. Here's my confession, Angela.
He was doing all the work and I was looking
like I did it on camera.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
That's what I'm talking about. That's how smart people working now.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But a few times I told our old production company,
I said, y'all need to just turn the camera round.
The real show is what's happening back here. Yeah, and
they wouldn't, but you know, everything has its time.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
And people need to see that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And it's also nice to see you have three daughters,
to see you guys interact with them. I saw on
the episode where she was going to the dentist for
the first time.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Oh you give you given the inside school because that
season three.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, so that's the the I did get a little
bit of a sniffet of what's about to happen. But
it's just really cute to see your interactions.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
As a girl dad and being in the house with
four women.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
You know what. I wouldn't have it any other way though.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I mean sometimes they can find me crazy on a Monday,
but I wouldn't have a dog.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Okay, got to at least right somebody to talk to.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
No, seriously, I do not mind it, Angela.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
When I tell you I wouldn't have any other way,
I solely mean that I get to be authentically mean
in every facet emotionally, you know, physically, I am there
and I tell fellows all the time, loving them more
doesn't make you any less of a man, because a
lot of dudes feel.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Like, oh, I got girls, I got it. I can't
be hard.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
You don't have to be you feel what I'm saying like,
you can be as corny as you want, cliche as
you want, you know, as much as you want, and
still be a man.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Why do guys feel like they can't be like that
with their sons? Go like, what the same way? You know,
if you can be mushy with your daughter and you
can be loving and affectionate with your daughter.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I just think a lot of guys think it's differ.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Don't want to be I got to make sure he
knows that the real world that's false, because you can
be you can teach them both aspects.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Right, you know what I mean? Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So when everything was like when you were leaving New
York where you and Mike together already.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
We've been together nineteen years.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, so yeah, so what was that like and how
did their relationship kind of because that's a difficult time too,
and you're like, I don't have this job anymore. Sometimes
even for yourself esteem because you've had been doing that,
and that's how people knew you. That can be hard,
even carrying over to your relationship.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So actually that's not why I left New York because
when I lost that first job, I went to real
estate and I was making more in real estate than
I'd ever made in my life, and I became Rookie
of the Year, and then I got my broker's license
and I really built myself up. So when I got
the call to go back to radio here in New
York at another station, my first answer was no, because
I know what that's going to look like. But then
(10:32):
I got smart and said, well, I can actually look
at this like a four hour commercial for my business.
If I go back, they'll pay me. But then I
get to integrate real estate and balance spoke because I'll
never make that mistake again of not having my own
And that's what I did. I went back to radio
here for a couple of years. But when I got
pregnant with our first child, and I say this because
(10:53):
you don't have children yet, right. What a lot of
people also didn't realize is that entertainment, at least here
we were guarded by a union. And when I got pregnant.
I thought I had health insurance either through the radio
station or through the union, because I was paying dues
and I was working right, and when I got ready
to go out, not one of them was paying my
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health insurance for me to deliver my child.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
What?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
And that is when I quit radio and left and
I left New York, I was done.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I was done.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So you mean to tell me all these years, dudes
and everybody's pointing fingers about who's going to pay my
hospital bills when it's time to deliver my baby?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
You were like, I'm done.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Done?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah now, and listen, real estate is I think all
about trust? Like I was saying, I just got my license,
and I've been doing a lot of stuff in this space.
The reason I didn't even intend to get my license,
I basically during a pandemic, was like, I'm going to
take these classes just because I felt like because I've
been purchasing things. We talked about the building. I have
some other properties, a brown I have a two Brownstones.
(11:54):
I have a condo and Williamsburg. I just did something
in Miami, and then I have an airbnb upstate New
York and I have another house in Detroit, and I
flipped some stuff in Detroit too, and I got.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Houses, y'all got thousands.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I said to myself, was I should go ahead and
get my license. Well, first, I said I should take
the classes just because I wanted to learn more, because
I never wanted to be in a situation where I'm
talking about things and doing things but don't know all
the ins and outs, because some of that stuff is
very unglamorous. It's nice to go show a house and see, oh,
this room has this, and here's the split system and
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the floor, but it's way different when there's a lot
of ins and outs and really meticulous details. And so
I was like, well, let me learn those things so
I never feel like I don't know what I'm talking about.
And then I was like, I might as well just
go ahead and take the test.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That's exactly what happened with me when I started as
an investor, and I saw some of the checks the
real estate agents were getting, and I said, wait a minute,
Wait a.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Minute, there's some money being left on this treat Because
it's illegal to get paid from real estate unless you're licensed,
So even if you do a referral.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
You can't get anything from that legally.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
What I love though, is actually seeing other women from
entertainment be about their business. Seeing you really be about
your business while you have this platform.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I love it. You know.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
There are many people who tell me, Egypt, you inspired
me to get in the real estate, or you inspired
me to do X, Y and z Z. But you're
inspiring this new generation of people, and I think it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
That's what we should be using on our plan.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, and you also have a furniture line, which I
think is amazing because I feel like that is a
natural progression for you. So can we talk about that
for a second.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Please.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Look, I'm not going to stop you because I love
furniture shopping. Yeah. But oh and well, okay, you know what,
I'm gonna buy some wallpaper and.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
A real estate brokerage and a design firm. It's all
called Indigo Road. So I used to for twenty years.
I owned Egypt Shirode real Estate and Design Group. He
owned Jackson Draper Construction and we would work together, but
it never hit us to just bring the companies together
as one and build a legacy company. So that's what
we decided to do. We opened our office is in Atlanta.
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We're going to be opening to in Texas as well.
Indigo Rote real Estate brokerage, Indo Goo Rotrealty dot Com
design group. We got a whole virtual design department. We're
going to be doing some very big projects for some
celebrities you'll be saying soon. And then construction of course.
And the furniture line, which is available or sold out
now on Wayfair.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, that's great because and I want to know what
inspire you to do that, because I will say, as
I shot for furniture, sometimes it's hard to find things
that doesn't look very like old fashion or you know,
so I'm always like, man, I want to see and
so I like what you have or have?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Okay, So I'll be sending you something, but you have
because it's all sold out.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
So here's the deal.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
As a mom, like three kids and our youngest is four,
our eldest is twenty two. So as a mom, I
wake up with this list of things that I want
to do for myself.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Every day.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I told my husband this, and by the end of
the day I felt like I wasn't a comp wishing
any of them because it's like, Mama need this and
this and then clients need this, my husband needs this.
He wants me to hang from the chandeliers.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And you know, at the end of the day, it's
only why did he tasted that same.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I got it hard enough, he put a brace.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
But but I told him, I said, twenty twenty three
is like my year of attacking my bucket list, everything
I wanted to do for myself. If twenty twenty three
closes and I didn't do all of this, then I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Gonna feel like I failed, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And so he could have been selfish and said, well,
what about me too, and he said, no, this is
your year. Whatever you want to do, I'm gonna get
behind it. You want wallpaper, you want frondsire, whatever. So
he let me travel, he let me do the meetings,
and he was doing hair. As y'all saw on social media,
he was corn rowing today time.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
My head game is mean, it could be a future.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
It's a little thing where he should have said, you know,
it's fine, and Mike for years a contactor.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You know, I also feel like it's really hard to
get good people to come in and do the work
on home. So you grew up with your family kind
of knowing how to do that type of work, right.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I was got into the business with my uncle and
my grandfather. They had their own business and they would
always tag me along and show me the ropes.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
But at that time, I wasn't supposed to be there
because when you're working on construction sites, it's sixteen and
then it's eighteen to actually do physical.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Labor, Okay, right, But I was there.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Twelve years old, thirteen year old, so I saw the
engine and outs. And then later on in life as
an adult, you know, I started working here in New
York City with Local twenty eight sheet metal workers, which
is duckwork anything metal that was us. He became a
journeys man, which is the top of the tier within
the trade, and then for my business and then took
it to Atlanta and Jackson Draper Renovations.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
We've been knocking it out ever since.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
People don't understand being able to have those skills is
life saving. Like if there's certain things you could do
in your home on your own, you know how much
money that saved you. When I think of how much
I've been spending on things, and even knowing what you're
supposed to spend on things, because they'll tell you anything.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
That's when I realized he was my husband, because I
met him in the nightclubs DJ and you know, I
saw him at the Puerto Rican Day Parade on the
float and the whole thing. We flirted, but I would
never get with him because to me, he was just
an industry guy.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It wasn't until I called my mentor Ulysses and said,
I need you to send a team over to this house.
I had to just fire the other one. He showed
up not a DJ, and when I saw him working
in contact to not a DJ, but when I didn't know,
you know, and I saw him working with his hands,
and then you know.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I was like, oh my god, that's so sexy.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
He's so sexy. Count just get it. Fleet The value
in that.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Get you a man that can fix something, Give you
a man that knows a trade and knows a skill.
These ladies fifty five and old to really understand the
value that we go to visit our aunts.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
You know, everybody lives in Florida.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You know, if they're over.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Forty five, they live in Florida. We go down and
visit all the family down there. And the minute we
hit this community. All the old ladies come up to him,
They got their legs wrapped around and they're rubbing his head.
They give me their cameras and want me to videotape it,
and then they're like, can I.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Just borrow him?
Speaker 5 (18:18):
I got like ten things that need to be fixed
in my house. They are hot thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Safe to say. We don't go Florida.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You got a Golden Girl fan club.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
But you know, it is amazing to see you guys
helping people get their dream homes because it's also not
easy to find a realtor you can trust. I remember
buying my first ever house in Brooklyn and having multiple
reltors until I found one who I was comfortable with.
And that is a real relationship where somebody's not just
trying to sell you anything, but they're also trying to
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make sure it's the right situation and advocating for you
and not just trying to get that check.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Listen, I say that you're real to the same way
you wouldvet somebody who is going to watch your child.
If you're not just gonna leave you kids with anybody,
they've got to be somebody who's skilled, who knows their
profession who you can trust, who you've done a background
check on. Do the same thing with someone who's gonna
represent you on quite possibly the largest purchase in your life,
right right, So do that diligence and then let them.
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Then let them do what they do. Trust them to
be the quarterback of your real estate dream team. That's
the other part.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Go get your own license up.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, that's fact.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And it's also important for people to have options. And
I love how you present, like, Okay, so I know
you wanted this, but here's this, but here's another option
that might be. You know, I'm gonna let you decide.
I'm not going to push you any which way. And
I think that's important where you're not just saying here's this,
but it shows that you do your work when you're like,
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all right, here's the different things.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Here's what this could look like. How about we try this.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Now, this will cost this, but we can stay within
your budget if we do it this way. You know,
I think that's really important for people to also understand
that because a lot of times when we go into
and I just think of myself when I was in
New Be not knowing anything, and how you have to
really have that trust in somebody that they're doing all
this work for you to just make your life simpler.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But it's just learning your client.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's that process, Yes, is really understanding what it is
that they need, and sometimes what our clients think.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They need is not really.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
For instance, had a woman client recently almost sixty years old,
going into a new chapter of her life and she
wanted to move. She hadn't even thought about a townhouse.
But my thing is, you say you want to travel,
you say you don't want house maintenance. They got townhouses
with elevators. You can live here too, Yeah, you know,
just come look at it, and it was perfect for her.
(20:38):
But really assessing not just what the client says, but
where are they at every chapter in their life and
what is going to be best for them and show them,
show them the options. But you said you just got
your license. My question for you is, what's the plan.
Is it just to you know, buy your own properties
and be able to keep those checks, which are smart,
or are you thinking you're going to represent clients as well?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I do want to represent client, because yeah I do,
and I actually have already signed on to an agency.
Havn't an I'm sir hand okay, okay, yeah, so I.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Did just all right, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But no, I'm.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Saying, you know, if you want to be with.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
A minority own a former radio personality who understands your plight.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, I'm joking, but it's great.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
My plan is really to learn a lot more and
I do want to do that. Like, my family has
some properties after my grandparents pass that they want to
so I'm going to represent them on that. And they
had a difficult time trying to find somebody that they
trusted because you know, for some people when things like
that happen and it involves multiple people just finding the
right person that you could trust, even to sell your property,
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you know, it's not easy to make sure that it's
price right and to even know that, you know, those
percentages are negotiable.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
So she's listening.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
To how she put her Really she knows you remind.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Me of myself.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I swear to you, remind me of myself like twenty
years ago on the radio doing just this. But she's
trying to walk out of here with an HGTV show.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Is not playing.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
But I feel like, you know, markets are so like
Atlanta is on fire right, and so I know it
was really tough even for people to get homes. I've
seen people who are putting in office for homes and
going through and losing their homes that they're like not
even getting to buy it even though for was accepted,
you know.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
So it is such a competitive market.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So for you guys trying to make sure that you
are representing your clients and getting them what they need,
sometimes that could be heartbreaking when you're like, I'm trying
to get this deal.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I mean, you know, I never want clients to overpay
for anything, but the market is going to always dictate
to us what something is worth. How much is a
person willing to pay, And if you got twenty people
overbidden for it, then that is what the market is
saying that it's that it's worth right now. But over
the last two years, yeah, it's been a short shortage
of housing inventory, specifically in the Southeast region but across
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the nation. That's what we've been experiencing that they couldn't
keep up, you know, with the building demands those two
years where COVID set us back with materials just being
stuck on the seas. So we're still playing, we're still
playing catch up for But what else you want to
talk about better than real estate atlandemic?
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Like we're married to.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Real estate, but we can talk about other things.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
I was gonna say, but that pandemic really made that
real estate in Atlanta go up through the roots.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Okay, So one of our properties has had more than doubled,
right in fifteen months.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's more than double because of that.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Wow, Yeah, that's a great feeling.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You know what I did for the first time, I
did a pre construction purchase and the building's not even
done yet and it's already worth like.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
Double what I paid for pre construction.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Island not pocketbooks about farmland. You remember Cardi B said she'd
rather have a burkingness and property sometimes, and she did
say that, And I'm gonna tell you what I understand
from that though, because I would say this like another
side that we don't because real estate is great when
the investment's good, whatever, But when you have tenants who
aren't paying, when you have to evict people, and that's
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such a long process not have to deal with that.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
But there's so many you know, I think that people
are being They're very one dimensional about how you think
that you can earn money off of real estate. I mean, really,
what's being overlooked is the fact that you can just
rent out a piece of your land and allow a
tower to be put up, or allow billboards to be erected,
you know, and get ten to twenty thousand dollars a
month off of just allowing that on a piece of
(24:38):
your property. That doesn't include what you could actually rent
the house for, or depending upon what type of land
it is, what you could lease the land for.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So, I mean there's so many opportunities to make money
that are being overlooked. But mark this day, in this
moment when I'm saying this, the real money to be
made is going to be an agricultural land. Okay, that's
just the direction, that's the wave right now, get some farmland.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Sit on it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I don't care if you put tents on it, have
retreats and gumba y'all on it.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Get some farmland. I feel you on that.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Now. I want to ask you, since you said we
could talk about other things, you know, other than real estate,
So could you ever see yourself coming back to radio
or you feel like there's a permanent bad taste in
your mouth?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
No, not a bad taste.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Let me tell you something. I was a radio host
for twenty years. Yes, you were, and it was an
incredible experience. It was just a chapter in my life
that I was done with. I felt like I've done
all I can do. I wanted to say more than
I could say. There were podcasts at that moment, you know,
I wanted to say more than what I could in
thirty seconds in between songs. But also there was a
lot of pain tied to that radio journey for me.
(25:44):
Mike knows he was there with me, you know, along
the way. Hopefully you know what I'm saying when on that.
As a woman, often in the entertainment business, we can
be dragged.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Absolutely, And with social media it's not any better right now,
It's even but but even behind the scenes, it is
not easy. And I think sometimes people just don't understand
it if you're not in it, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Well no, let's let's just let's just speak to it,
because I think that we have to write anything I
know about you, your career, your show is that you
You're very honest.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You asked the straightforward questions.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yes, the reality is that often women in entertainment we
have been minimized.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
To boobs that laugh.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Okay, and when you want to grow and you got
something substantial to say, and you as my shirte to
thank you. But but you know, so when you get
to a place of where you feel and listen, in
anything that we do, there's going to be a season.
(26:47):
You got to recognize what season you're in. And as
the season turns, so do you. And so I recognize
that in that season of my life it was time
to turn. It just was nothing left for me. I
am grateful for it, but there's nothing left that I
can do that I can't do on my own social
media channels.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And I also feel like, you know, just even mental
health was not a big conversation back then like it
is now.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
But even mentally you have to feel like sometimes.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're supposed to feel like this is the best opportunity
in the world, and how could you, you know, not
want to do this, But then mentally it can be
so draining that you're like, I would much rather do
anything else.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Well, I don't think people understand how mentally taxing it
is to entertain. Comedians will tell you, you know, you kind
of look at the stats. A lot of comedians who
have mental health issues too, And I was listening to
a Wanda Sykes to even talk about it, to entertain
You're giving more than just physically being there. You're giving
your spirit, You're giving your personal journey, You're just you're
(27:44):
giving it all. It is like working twelve hours a day,
even if you're only on stage four hour. So yeah,
sometimes you would rather just, you know what, let me
go get a day job.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I mean, Angela.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
It falls into the place where I say all the time,
the three biggest things in life are should I say
keys is health, happiness and peace, because if you take
those out of any situation, everything else becomes mundane. You
can have all the money in the world, but if
you're not happy, it won't matter. Right, have all the
materials in the world, but if your health is fludy,
it doesn't matter. So your health, happiness, and peace or
your top goals in it all.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
He's sexy.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
I love him.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
I love that for you.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I love that for both of you though, because I definitely,
like you said, you've been you had did radio for
twenty years and you're somebody I've always paid attention to.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Like, it's crazy that we're just meeting.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I know, and we follow each other.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Every time you do something, I'll report on it, and
you know, for me, it's always like, because I'm in radio,
I've heard stories about things that have happened. I've seen
things that you've said, you know, about your experience and
your journey, and I'm happy to see the space that
you're in now, you know, because I feel like I
look to you as somebody when it came to me
wanting to do real estate, You're the person that I'm like, Okay,
(28:50):
I kind of want to follow that path, right, you
know that Egypt has I still enjoy doing radio and
I'm you know, very excited to have my own show
and start this journey and I'm working really hard on it.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But I also feel like, like you said, thank goodness,
we have other things, because I never want to feel
like I need to have this or I don't have anything.
I've always wanted to make sure I establish myself another way,
so that I'm doing this just because I want to,
not because I have to.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I had an opportunity to interview Oprah Winfrey and I
asked her for her advice some some years ago, and
I just said, like, how do I break through? What's
the breakthrough moment? And I never forget? She told me,
Number one, find what you are passionate, truly passionate about,
and go hard in the paint for it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
But then additionally hard in the paint.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
She said hardin askh today. She told me, essentially go hard. Okay, right,
but you got to find what you are authentically good
at and authentically passionate about. And if you're not passionate
about something anymore, it's gonna show, right, And I felt
like that for that career with me. You know it
was going to show, but I forgot, so you interrupted me.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know I'm over forty.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Now, can't You got to go hard and stop playing.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Having to do something?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, she told me to sign my own set.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Never mind what you want.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But we were talking about basically doing something because you
want to, not because you have to.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That's not what we were talking about. What I was
gonna say was really good, and I lost the.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Thought and some advice Oprah gave you.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
He knows me by now, he knows if your whole
train of thought it was good.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But listen, because it feels amazing you have your husband
on your journey both of you enjoy actually working with
each other. What's your times? What's your rules for when
you guys clash? Like, do you have rules on how
to handle it? Like I know he doesn't like to
talk right in the midst of it. Like, what are
the rules for when you guys don't agree?
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Rules for when we don't agree? Well, One, never get
disrespectful towards each other. Right, that's a definite, no matter
what it is, I won't disrespect her and vice versa. Two,
No need to yell at each other. Right, raise the
conversation out our voice. And three I'll pull it into
(31:13):
a closet and just kissing, rush your mouth.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
That's how he disarms me if I just if I'm
having a moment like you know, we we do on
set sometimes and obviously in our businesses, you know, we
have disagreements. And for the first time a couple of
weeks ago, I was upset with him and my uncle
and I was like, I quit. He's like, you can't
quit your own business quick.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
You can fire us, you can't. You can't quit the show.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You can't quit.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
I said, I quit everybody.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I mean it lasted like five minutes. But that's how
he disarms me, he'll let me just go, go go,
and then he grabs me, and I'm like, okay, you
got it anywhere you win. I mean, it's just it's
going to happen. It's just real. Nineteen years we would
be fake if we sat here and I feel like
we don't have disagree I.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Always feel like in the relationships, it's important to know
how to argue because you're going to like, there's no
way you don't. There's no way, because then somebody doesn't
care if you're not, you know, passionately disagreeing on things.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You can't bring up old stuff. Okay, that's the thing,
you know, if you've worked through it already.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
We talked through it. We you know, dissected it and
decided that we were.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Past it in the midst of that argument, you cannot
bring up what I did ten years ago.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
That's fighting thirty right, it's pasted. We moved past it.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Sometimes you got to choose your battles too, you know,
if it really isn't a big deal, just hit a
person out right. Don't listen to debate, Listen to actually
hear what they're saying. Because sometimes we're realist, Like, all right,
So she finished, I'm kidding it right, you're not even
paying to that, because otherwise it's just going to blow
up and continue over and over and shuttle it right
(32:52):
there in the moment versus trying to carry it on
throughout the week. That's one of our biggest things, especially
for me. You know, we'll get into it and I'm like,
all right, it's Tuesday, Wenesday, I'm still Friday.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
How to get bet at that?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You know? And I think you know, he told me
something one time and it really struck me because it
was so true. And he said to me, Babe, sometimes
it's the way you say it. It's not what you're saying,
it's the way you say it. It comes across Mannish.
Now when you say to your wife you're coming across managed.
That cuts really deep. But I was like, what you mean?
And I was like, oh, just the way I just
(33:24):
said it, like DMX, I just said it, like what
you mean?
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Managed?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But you know, when I had committed to doing more
listening than talking, and he explained to me that you know,
you can be soft. I'm here for you can be
soft and you can be gentle, and you know you're not.
Don't fight me you've had to fight the world. Don't
fight me like I'm on your team. And I do
believe a lot of women because we're out here fighting
in the world for our place in life. We're out
(33:52):
here fighting, you know, to be respected. Were fighting for
the same salaries with fight. It's like when do you
look up and realize you're shadow boxing?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know, I don't have to fight anymore. And I
was able to sink into my femininity when I realized
I was safe.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
And one thing I'll say, because that is so true.
I have this piece of art that I bought. I
don't know if you guys. Do you guys collect art?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
We do?
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Okay, I want to talk about that too. But I
had this piece of art that I bought. But the
reason I bought it was it really spoke to me
because it was like some boxing gloves and he's standing
there and it's got like emojis on the boxing gloves.
But anyway, it just reminds me that every day I
was going outside, I felt like I had to fight
every single day, like just to make it through the day.
You know, things are way better now, but it definitely
(34:34):
was something that I was like at that time, I
was like, Okay, let me get this, because every time
I look at it, I'm like, urry, let's get ready
to go outside and go fight. And it's nice to
feel like you don't have to do that, you know.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Yeah, But so what color were your boxing gloves? And
that one they were blue?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
They were blue.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I had some pink. It's funny that you say that.
I asked, and I had those pink.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I have pink boxing gloves in real life at home. Yeah,
in real life.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
But I had to take the box because we don't
realize even some of the things around does a symbolic
and how much they feed the music we listen to.
Even if we're like no, like that's my joy now,
the music you listen to sometimes is a vibration that
can carry you into an aggressive state.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Absolutely right, everything we're taking it in.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
So I had these boxing gloves that my office was
right by the front door, and they were hanging up
there for years, and I realized, like how symbolic that was.
Every time I went out, I felt like I had
to fight, fight, fight, fight, And I don't want to
fight anymore. I just want to live a soft life.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So girl, Harper has.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And then let's talk about the new show on at
TV that you guys are going to be.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
You're judging, right, competing, We're.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Not competing judge Battle of the Mountains. We competed on
Rock the Block, right, but Battle Mountain. We're just coming
in this judges.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Not just competed one. That's just one.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
But but I don't mound. We're just coming in and
we're judging. There are there's one, two, three, four, four teams.
Four teams.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Yeah, it's three, three teams. It happens in Colorado, and
it's actually really on the mountains and each house is
totally different and they have well I can't.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Give too much work, you can't get right.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Bottom line is it's a full on brawl.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
On a mountain in Colorado and it gets crazy and
we judge it and it is definitely one of the
stronger competitions that you're going to see on HGTV.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Since you say you love all that, I do.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I watch all of that, and so you know, just
to conclude this, I want to say that I love
seeing you guys on ah cz F because I feel
like we need that representation. You know, you don't know
who you're affecting just by seeing both of you on there,
seeing black people, a black woman, a black man doing
the work and having shows on there. Because you know,
I don't feel like we see us in that space
(36:51):
as much as we should.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
So what does that tell us too, that we've got
to support and watch? You know, if we want to
see more, it's always going to boil down to numbers.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
It's own business game.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So if you want to see more of us, you
want to see more Egypt and Mike, you got to
actually show up and watch the numbers show up.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Yeah, you got to tell your aunties and your uncles
and your cousins.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Are girls club.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Okay, to make sure we have Angela.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
We have fans, not fans, right, we don't call them.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I say that to say to speak to what you
just said, because we get approached a lot, and it's
never like a fandom onum Craze. It's more of a
family situation. Come here, let me give you a hug. Right,
They'll pull us close and they say listen, please keep
doing what you're doing. It's hey, I just set my
son down to watch the show and he was enamored
by what he saw. He saw hisself in your show.
(37:43):
I was at a wedding and a young man approached me.
He had to be about twenty five, and he goes.
The one thing you may not know, because I'm sure
people approach a lot is I look at you as
a father figure because I didn't have a father. And
to see you with your family and you know, representing us, well,
please don't stop. And when you hear that stuff over
and over again, you're like, we're doing it right. Let's
continue to do on this path, right, it's necessary.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
He's sexy.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Okay, the.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
To date some stuff over there. I don't know. I cant.
HG TV does a show on Brownstones in Brooklyn, Angela.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
We we know that.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
We understand she's got her real estate license. She's about
to do the dang on things. She's buying properties. What
do you which building you want us to come renovate?
I try to come come to a special with you.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I would love that in Detroit, so these women can
have an amazing place to call home in midtown in
a landmark district. Yeah no, it should be done hopefully
in like June or July.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
So they've been like.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, so you've already started we've already started. They're doing
the flooring right now. Yeah, I'll tell you about the issues.
But other than that though, everything has been pretty smooth.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
So right now, on this day, this moment in time,
we're gonna market y'all. Angelae Egypt and Mike we're gonna
figure out a project to do together, Okay, and we're
gonna pitch it, and it's gonna be on HGTV I Focus,
so it shall be right.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
I'll pitch right after.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
All Right, well, Egypt, you're out of Mike Jackson, married
to real estate.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
When does the new season start?
Speaker 6 (39:21):
December twenty eighth, nine pm? Okay, HGTV stream W Max.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, every third, perfect timing because it's the holidays, and
that's what we give to you. All right, Well, thank you,
and I'll definitely be watching, as you know, I already
have been. So thank you so much for joining us.
I appreciate it.
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