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JACKBOY Speaks On Kodak Black, Denies Domestic Violence Allegations + More

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up its way for Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
My guy Mano is here and for the first time
we got jack Boy on the show. All right, Well
we got a lot to talk about because you've never
been up here before for all right. But you do
have new music on the way, a new album on
the way, trust the process.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
When is that coming out from sometime March? Right now,
I'm getting all the clearances together, so March.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Definitely.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
It feels like you're in a different space right now.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
You know, I see a lot of the work that
you've been doing as far as wanting to help build.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
A hospital in Haiti.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
So you were born in Haiti, I'm born okay, and
then you live there till around.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Seven six years old, and I moved to Florida.

Speaker 6 (00:43):
Okay, Haiti, Porter Prince, Okay, I've been to Porter Prince.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
I don't know much of yeah, Porter Prince.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
The Capitol right it's still.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
So what was it like for you going back to
Haiti and what inspired you to say, Okay, we got
to do something.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Just going back and me knowing like them, I made
it from out of this like and seeing how hard
it is. It's like I could chip in a little
bit and knowing that like a thousand dollars over there
go real far. Like so it's like, damn, I could
do a little bit like ten thousand and chore twenty thousand,
but that's a lot to no now. So it's like
me knowing that, it's like I wanted to help out

(01:22):
a little bit, and I'm still trying to get it
to that level. We still ain't cause the people I
had posed to they kind of backed out or whatever
life brought for them or whatever. But it's still like
I'm still pushing for that. Like every little deal I year,
we try to donate a little something or every little
thing I do, we try to keep it going.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, So going back to that, how often had you
been going back to Haiti from when you moved to Florida?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
And I go back a lot because like my grandma
still lived there, so my mom keep me, I haven't
been back in like almost a year and a half,
but I plan on going this year, like so at
least once a year.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Like, and when you're there are people like we know
who you are.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
A big deal when you go back home right, God.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Does it make you feel like because I think sometimes
when you go when I go back home, like to
where well, where my mom is from. I wasn't born there,
but in the West Indies, it's so different and sometimes
it does make you like feel a bit different type
of energy you was born I was, Yeah, I was
born in Brooklyn, but where my mom is from.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know how like when you go back to some
place like I always tell you, may no, you need
to go and.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Stop playing like the virgin Is I'm from. My family
is from there, from St. Thomas, the same CRUs right, But.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Sometimes when you need to Yeah, that's what I'm saying,
it do energize you in a different type of way,
you know.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
And then you also have a restaurant.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah for sure, just open December eighth, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
All right, December eighth. And you've been getting into shape.
Some people were saying that surgery.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yeah you've been working out and everything.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, I'd be on my fitness that's good. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Everybody they be going crazy on me down I heard everything.
He on stoids, he on this, and but you know,
I guess a lot of artists went again the body. Yeah, yeah,
so they went so they went to thinking I got it.
They went to, I got the bb L ll C
what I got? He got his c d L what like,

(03:24):
I don't know nothing about no bb L c d
l ll no, But that's how it was. So after
I got past that and they're like, na, he really
he really be on it, like and he.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Real deal diet.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
You don't drink none of that, none of that.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Don't straight water just water.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, no, I don't even try to drink no juice,
no sugar, no nothing, no shocking, nothing nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Sugar is so addictive because if there's something I felt
like I'm addicted to it sugar, Like I could do
without other.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Things, but it's so high for me. Like sometimes you just.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Have a craving yeah something sweet.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah for something sweet.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
But I want to talk about the workout journey that
you've been doing, because sometimes when you start taking care
of yourself physically, that does affect your mental too.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, it makes it then stuff not as serious or
you just like it helps you get a lot of
whatever stress or whatever the hell you're thinking about off
while you're working out, and it just it just helped
you all around, Like it got me going to sleep earlier,
got me doing stuff like them.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I don't drink no more.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Little stuff like that, like not even the oh, I'm
thinking better and I know how to save the world
type shit, just little stuff that's saving yourself. Like I'm
going to sleep early, and actually again I wake up
feel rested, like I feel like I had a good
night rest, Like.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Because if you can't save yourself, you can't save the world.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
You can't save not a goddamn s balance though, because
you're working out. You know it balance you out. You
feel better, you know you got more energy, you.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Know than that's self love, not then too, So you
can't love yourself. You can't love nobody else either, Like,
so you gotta love yourself a little bit, wake up,
get your about thirty minutes to or do anything.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Do some jumping jack team. Yeah you gotta be onnald
Sports or nigga, but do something like.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So, what made you even decide that, Okay, it's time
for me to get it together.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I'm just me, just playing two k and I'm just
arguing with one of them on the game.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
And I'm like, I'm not even like.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
You, nigga, Like why am I arguing with you right now,
Like I'm supposed to be doing something way better than this,
like either be in the studio, either workout. Regardless if
I'm working out and I'm not doing it's more productive
than just being on the game arguing with certain people.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
That's nothing. It's like this your job to be on
the game.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
You on this twenty four to seven, Like say, oh nah,
I can't be arguing with people. And that made me
snap one day, like why am I even playing the
game right now? Like h Like I could go be
working out or.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I could go be in that yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Like so even if I'm not in the studio, and
it's like damn, I feel like I ain't really do
nothing productive.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
We I ain't doing no interview, I ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
It's like that gym still that's still working, Like that's
still yeah, you still better in yourself. So it's like
I just picked something different to do.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Like with my time.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I saw somebody said in the comments like, Okay, you
know the music that you're putting out now is too positive.
We need we know it's bad today a certain way,
but they want you to be back.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
How I give them both, But the rough shit that
I was putting out ain't really get me no far,
like it ain't get me nothing. The positive shit I
want to putting out or the what's it called, like
the motivation and hustle music got me, A plaque got me,
my restaurant got me. I'm not popping pills like all
of I could still drop the rough shit and I'm
still gonna drop that, but it's like, that's not my focus.

(06:40):
So whoever build with me building me, whoever don't, I'm
not focused on that because I see that with every artist.
They say that way everybody. And if you get caught
up in that trying to create your old shit, you
lost in the sauce. It's like you're supposed to be
create some shit and make people fuck with it, not.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, because PK was kind of rough.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, it's definitely not a soothing song, but I want
to talk, so let's get back to that too, because
I think growth is important, right, And this album is
called Trust the Process.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
What made you call it? That?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Pretty much everything in life, but even in the workout world,
people that work out, that's just pretty much what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
You trusting the process. Like I want to look like
this one day.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I want to or just with whatever you got going on,
like hey bro, like I'm a blowing music or whatever
in month, Like people might not believe it at first.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Then you're doing.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Little stuff and like or you might go to jail
for two years and it's like, damn, wild is happening.
It's like just trust the process, like like this shit
gets get greater later, like for real, for real, like
you get greater later.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You just gotta trust it.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Like it might not nothing might not make sense while
it's going on, like damn, you might think you falling
off or declining, or why I'm losing money or why
I'm my health getting bad. But you gotta just trust
the process, go with the flow and still fighting it
and go through it because if you keep on going
through it, you might come out way bigger than.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
What you thought you was about to be. Pain is temporary, exactly.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And I want to flash back to like even your
early years because I know you were a duie for
like four years. What was that experience like for you?
And do you feel like it helped you or made
you worse?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
And it helped me because I could talk like this
now and I could understand people and I understand like them.
At first I used to think like only my neighborhood
was real, But now I could go to New York,
or go to San Francisco or go to and find
real people and understand like them. It's people everywhere else
like me, or on some better than me and all that.
But then in ways it messed me up because I

(08:34):
got a short temper and then being in like jail
so long, it's like little petty stuff like like you
put your socks by my bed, I might have to
fight you over that, like just off the respect level,
or you don't flush the toilet while you using the back,
so it's like that's still like while I'm out here
in the real world. It kind of messed me up sometime,
but like damn, I'll catch myself snapping on something like

(08:56):
I like, damn, I could have let that slide.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
That's not even like, but see you caught yourself because
of jail. Everything is about respect, yes, right, So it's
like when you when you break that respect, you feel
like you got to defend yourself. A lot of times
out here in the real world, people take a lot
of those small respects for granted, so you gotta think
not only for you, but for them. You know, you
can't throw it all away because he don't really know

(09:19):
what he just did.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Oh yeah, Like out here, say a mother for the
three hundred pounds might bump into you boom out here
and it's y'all going to war in prison, somebody like
two hundred some pounds bumped into me, I'm thinking, and
he the most nicest person. Oh, I'm sorry, Like, like,
it's real respectful. Every It don't matter how big you is.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
To how small you is. Everybody come with respect first.
And out here it's not like that.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
So it's like it be confused in this that you
can't and they're when you don't get respect, we get aggressive.
Out here you can't can't get aggressive. You're throwing it
all away, Like yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's the only way. I feel like it kind of
missed me up kind of.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
And family wise, where was where they all coming to
see you? Like did you have support from at that
time or did you feel like you.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Was my I went to prison two times. My first
prison bill was in Virginia. So nah, my mom haitian,
So I ain't even want to like she barely know
how to speak English for real for at the moment.
So I ain't even want to put her through all
that and all that searching.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I ain't want that none of there.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I've seen how people was acting like them. They just
THEMN there violated my girl up there. It's all like, no,
I'm not going So I just kept it cordial on
the phone. But while I was in Florida, yeah, I
couldn't stop my mom. But as far as the Virginia
I did, like two years in Virginia, I ain't.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I ain't nobody, I ain't just straight fans.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
And then I know you probably hate everybody always asking
you about Kodak Black, but it's hard not to.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I did a sit down interview with Kodak Black that
didn't come out, but I was in Florida and did it.
And he always, I feel like, quite frequently, will say
that he wants y'all to be on good terms at
some point, you know, And he even said it then.
But how do you feel at this point now he's straight? No,
you don't think it, cause y'all really was so tight though, Like,

(11:07):
and I know it's hard because people do affiliate with you,
guys with each other it's hard, you know, papaob Tua.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's like it's not like there's a ton of people.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
He's good, he's good.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
You're like, I don't want to talk about him at all,
Like good, all right, I mean, and then I do
want to discuss like just because you've been doing all
these positive things as of late, but then a lot
of times things that have happened in the past have
come up, and so you know, we got to talk
about your ex girlfriend because even when the announcement of
this restaurant happened, it was like, look, you know, this

(11:39):
is the problem that you do have these accusations of
domestic violence against you.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, even with that, like I don't even want to
too much because you know, people see in the views
and they'll be their moment.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Oh I'm about to juice up off of whatever this
person say.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
So it's like whatever motherfucker thing or whatever you win now,
I say, I ain't got time going back and forth
with stuff. I know I'm bigger than whatever you feel like,
take it to whatever that's in whoever. But it's like
I'm not I ain't gonna let no situation. I know
I'm past I'm not gonna give it no life. I'm
not gonna pour it.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
It's like that's whatever, Like is.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
It something that's still open or is it something that's.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
At the moment and nobody, Like the blogs ain't come
back and said, oh no, none of this ain't going
on with Jack, Like Jack don't got no charges for
no domestic no noting. So I view like them, they
just want to paint me a certain way regardless. Like
so it's like, I'm not even gonna try to prove
my point in situations.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm gonna just quietly get my money and I don't
need y'all trying to. They be trying to attack the
the rap like y'all can have the music, they'll try
to attack the business the ever. So it's like I
ain't got time for all y'all have it.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Like do you think about your lyrics too when you
think about how people are now using people's lyrics against
them When it comes to but I'm not moving forward because.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
It is I feel like the people that put so
so much in it, like everybody I feel like got
whatever little street to them, But the people that put
so so much in their lyrics that's getting used against
them I feel like they never been through shit for
real real, so like they so excited in the studio,
they giving up everything. They telling, uh, he came in
with jacket with the green shirt, had his gun up there,

(13:20):
like you just gave up everything, and my lyrics, Yeah,
it might be some true, but I understand this ship
entertainment like it's never gonna be none in the court.
And they got me just oh yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
This hot right because it's like they they speaking about
specific crimes and they're trying to attribute the specific crime
to the rat.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Like basically they're saying.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
Way, well, you had a blue shirt and you shot
the guy in the gold.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Car and then you went and went on on the
song and said you had the blue shirt and.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
S hold on, hold on or yeah we left them
on Whooped the Whooped Street and the old lady looked
at Shock and they're like, oh shit, it was an
old lady as a witness and he was left on
like you doing too much. Like but it's like that
that's the type of music I'm trying to grow past.
But that's what my fans be wanting, like, nah, Jack,

(14:07):
we want you to talk about that. But it's like, no,
we're gonna talk about some motion music too, like how
to get some money, like how to dress, how to dress.
I'm about to get real weird on it.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Don't go full with I ain't going I ain't.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
All right with.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah card never Yeah, absolutely not that ain't.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
I can't even function like that.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
It sound funny, y'all care so much made It was
just showing me. He made a list of like.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
You just showed me you were like, what was I wearing?

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh yeah, it was a bad outfit, but it wasn't.
It wasn't it was a bad outfit. It was I
had a bad day, but it wasn't what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, okay, you got you you do for a bad day?

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, because you might try something take
a little right, but some ship is just not even
in the time. Pocket way out of pocket.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
He was out of pocket. He was out of pocket.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So you have the new song style by meat.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Okay, so is it true if you with a lady
you're gonna help get her together too?

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, I'm kind of stinging to regret that song.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Because it's like new teeth.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
You can being so much potential in them, but they
don't even see it in theirself, and it's like you're
just so lame.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
It's like I don't even care what you do after whatever.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
But they'll go to like, go talk to you now,
don't go talk to dude telling weed down the street
like you better than that.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
I'm sa.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Maintain a level right Like it'd be so sad. They'd
be like, oh man, did you even deserve that?

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Lie?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I might as gon save up until I find one
I deserve it, like, because that's the thing.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
You gotta find the one that deserves to be rewarded to.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You know, when you're being used as opposed to when
somebody really likes you.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I'm never being used because if you exchanging your body
for a Chanel person, you're being used. I'm saying, if
you think I'm getting hurt by that, when I'm just
gonna go tell any random person I got a feature
deals on the future.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Today, what we're doing. If you think come you being used,
keep on using me?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Then what about if you never did nothing with her?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
You guys didn't.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I'm like, we're not going that far. We're not going
to dinner. I'm gonna get you dinner. I'm flying.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Eat a good time, good time, you're gonna have a
good time.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
You're gonna have and that's just me, Like, I can't
help it.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
We won't eat, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
We won't eat anyway, So were not even counting, you
know when they say, like, what what is tricking that?

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Ain't I gotta have a good time.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
We're gonna ride a nice cars, We're gonna go to
good that ain't we going?

Speaker 5 (16:45):
I'm gonna do that with my homies.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, Like if you leave the room, can she stay
in the room after you you leave and get on
the road and order room service and do whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Are you okay with that room?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like if you're at the hotel, are you okay with
leaving somebody young lady tripping about?

Speaker 5 (17:04):
I'll be anybody.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Tripping off food.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
You don't do it?

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Crazy?

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Even do it?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
That's crazy? Work Like but food, I'm not like what
you want food? I'm not okay.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So what if on the first date she's like, you know,
I want to go to Chanelle?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Oh no, oh no, And on the first day you
want to go to Chanel, we must have had we're
not going on the first date. But if you want
to go to Chanell, we must have had some d
MS already priory, and we know what it is.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
I done flew you out from New York.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
You in Florida, so we know what's going on you
that not I came to New York. And now you're like,
I want to go to Chanell. It's like no, like
I want to go to Chanelle too.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
You're flying her first class.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Of course, that's just a part of the experience. That's
not even for you. That's just what comes with it now.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Like all right, I'm just making sure. I just want
to see how all of this works.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, first class.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
And then like the type of girls I'm going for
not the type of girls they could fly theyself first class.
They're not the type of girls that ride and the
like they can do it regardless, Like that's the ones
I look for, Like, oh, yeah, she already lit, she
already on it, Like it's gonna be hard to get her,
it's not gonna be easy, Like, yeah, she not no
gold digger.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
But how he.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Said she ain't messing with no broken Yeah, like that's
how it come like like she yelled, that's not I'm
on it.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now I also saw recently in the news on Monday,
they were talking about thirteen people got arrested for the
shooting where they actually were trying to get you. It
felt like you were targeted, you know, and so that
just happened. So how do you feel now that that
news has broken?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Even with that situation, Like somebody, I guess the girl
lost her lives. It's really sad out her family like
all that. So I don't really want to too much
touch on that topic. But I was in a I
guess they was in a suburban or whoever, and I'm
in Escalator. But I don't know if they placed it
as like my entourage or however, or people mistakenly thought

(18:59):
I was in there own know, but that's what the
police saying. Somebody probably thought I was in that car
and shot that car up, but I don't really know.
So I'm just right, yeah, I mean, it's just watching from.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
The sideline like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
And for the women who lost their life, I'm sure
the family is like happy to know that.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, they're going, yeah, they I'm pretty sure they're
happy because at the moment when everything was going on,
I didn't really know her like that. So I figured
out this people and I got I guess I got
her sister number and got in contact with them. You know,
had to try to pay for everything I could try
to whatever they allow me and whatever they don't. It's
like I gotta respect it. But it's like I definitely

(19:34):
talked to the dad and had a lot of conversations
with him for like that's good and I felt it
like he made me. At first, it was like, oh,
and because I'm kind of used to it from being
just in the streets like I'm used to like yeah,
like I'm I'm used and people to look at me
and be like damn man, they don't show no type
of emotion to that. But then when he was when

(19:56):
I got on the phone with the dad, I was like,
oh yeah, like yes, really, like I felt it like
that was the first time, like not even for a
friend or some like people I know, like I ain't
never felt it before, like damn, like yeah, but that
time of like damn, somebody died, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
People are hurting from that.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I just feel like even for you, you know, there's
been a lot of situation. There was another situation where
they felt like you had gotten shot.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
They be counting me out, they or they just like
I guess they did the most saying oh this and this,
they got airlifted and up, but the situation was not
even really all that was going on or as bad
as they was trying to make it seem. It's like, damn,
like they just on this mother like saying I'm shot
or I'm this, and me and my brother in the

(20:44):
house playing the game right now, like it was.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
That was a wild situation.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
So that is something that I feel like, you know,
part of the transformation is nobody wants to have to
deal with these things like and have to worry about
going to a show or minding your business and then
you never know when something might potentially happen.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
That's tough, yeah, but I always just I look at
it like that comes with it, Like we hate that
it did, but it comes with it. You winning, like
you you twenty, you just turned twenty six, you restaurant,
you Lamborghinis, you have bought two Lamborghinis. I'm Richard Milly
in the hood, I'm ape. It's like you winning that
come with it. So it's like you can't just expect

(21:24):
everything just be sunny.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Like it's gonna be.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Then it's going You don't feel like do you feel
like you're more exposed to that now than when you
was fully in the street.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Way more exposed.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
And when I was fully in the street, it was
more like people won'tn't even.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Play to a certain level because they know, like he
don't really got nothing to lose, Like what's worse now? Yeah,
but when they.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
See you got son to lose, I feel like they
play with you more, like people still want you try
to test it, test it.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
So it's like it's way more and worse now.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Especially you won't expect like coming up, you won't expect like, damn,
the same motherfuckers I'm coming will be the same motherfuckers
that hate on me, or the same motherfuckers that I'm like,
you won't.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Expect certain ship how life play out.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
So when they play out their playout, you're like, damn,
that's crazy, Like yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
You think in Florida they have some of the worst
beef when it comes to hip hop out of anywhere.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well Florida, we yeah, we on both ways every way,
like yeah, go crazy, Florida, go Yeah, it's bad hip
hop beefs, Like I see people do like the Chicago beef.
So I see even even down here. It's be a
lot of beef in New York. But the thing about
Florida beef is like it's different, Like it's a lot

(22:38):
of it's it's probably the same everywhere. I don't know,
but it's a lot of like don't like, it's a
lot of back door like, it's a lot of like.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
It's it's tricky. It's tricky Florida beef. It's yeah, it's serious.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
I mean, ultimately it's the same.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
It's all because at the end of the day, we
were knocking each other off.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Facts, facts, you know what I'm saying. So it's it's
really the same. And really for what Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
It don't be for no reason too.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
It it really be jealousy or people just hating, or
people just like I don't know, people be gate keeping.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
It.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
It be all type of different reasons, or people might
feel like people that could have probably a squashed situation
or probably want to be like them.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
I want to be a jack boy shoes right now
or take his spot. I ain't gonna say nothing or nothing.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
It just be a lot of like it's no real
leaders and I be telling people that there's not no
real statistic in the world or nothing.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
I just be telling people.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I feel like it's ninety percent the world is more
and so followers than like leaders, like accolutely, it's even
so it's followers with boss positions that they don't even like,
they don't have a boss leader role, but you looking
at them like you don't even know how to lead, right,
like you don't even know how to So I feel
like that's it's more so followers like everybody, followers like,

(23:53):
it's not that much leaders for real life that could
just hold shit down.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Do you feel like people have have been gate keeping
it against you previously?

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I know people been keeping the industry no people can
get keeping, but it's like you really can't get keep
cause I'm like, I'm a hustler. Now I'm gonna create
another avenue. And regardless, regardless if we got to turn
up on podcasts, regardless if we got to turn up
on the restaurant. I came from Haiti, so we started
with zero. I'm already winning. We're in the prophet right now.

(24:21):
So I'm winning. Like I went, I got an iPhone,
I'm winning. The moment I bought iPhone, I was winning.
So people, yeah, they don't understand that, and they be.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Like, why the fuck he's so happy?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Like, do you bro, I can go home and do
ship like I'm winning. Do you know what my family
just went through?

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Like do you know what I had?

Speaker 5 (24:37):
A dude like get here?

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Like people don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
So they like when you're from here, you more so
like you take this ship for granted a lot.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Of simple luxuries, That's.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Sometimes you travel other places and it really just yeah,
well damn, I'm very fortunate to have these little everything.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
After the earthquake, after the big one, crazy yeah that
was big too.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
And so I want to go back to this restaurant.
Say it's called Pierre Pierre.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, Pierre named after me after you? How did you
business partner? Now?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
How tell me about you and your business partner's relationship?
So I know how y'all managed to do this together?
What made you decide you wanted to be in the
restaurant business?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
What made me decide? Just wanting to be different? And
I felt like that sound cool?

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Like now that really it.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Was just the look cool, like, oh, I own a restaurant,
but when I seen like, damn, this ship, boy is
looking better than music right now, like you can make
like what you could make. It was like, oh, yeah,
now I took but I really took my my business
partner lead with a lot of stuff, like he took
my lead as far as I just I'm the face.
We're gonna push this, We're gonna Then I took his

(25:45):
lead with he had a restaurant before.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
With the business.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, it's a perfect perfect connection. He know what works.
He know about stuff like he putting me on game
about Michelin stars about I don't know about none of that.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I was just hosted at the wine and Food festival
in South Beach, the Soe We Winding Food Festival.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's where you should have been.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, y'all should have told me I would have came through.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
It's a big deal because all the chefs are there
and I was it like the cookout it's called the Cookouss.
It's all black chefs you know, from all over it.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
But it is.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
The restaurant business is such an interesting business because it's
also but it's also a difficult one.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
It's scary, but if you get going, yeah, it's lit.
It's life changing.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Now, how do y'all know each other?

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Because I work with Empire.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
So Empire called him one day to do a cooking
for the studio whatever. So now while he cooking and all,
I'm like, damn, it's food good. So they I don't
know what happened. We just connected after that day, like
and I'm like, damn, me're a black chef, like that
was big than me. Like and you can make it
taste like this like that was I liked it that

(26:48):
So now like crayon, like a Caribbean type style fusion mix.
It's like it's a southern steakhouse, but it's mixed with
like it's like to say, less.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Y'all got down here, like kind of that viobe. Yeah,
that's what I was trying to steak house.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, like kind of like that. Everybody want to be
at shout last. It is Bobby.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, it's Bobby.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
By the way, I got my tea on the menu
and say less right.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Now shout out They shout out your tea. We need that.
We got a bar. I got the bar at my restaurant.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
You need some express on my teens for sure. You
know that's what we like to say. We can stay awake,
So can you cook?

Speaker 4 (27:29):
I can't cook. I can't I can't. I could cook
for me, but like I can make oat meal for me.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Couple before I work out, Like.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
You're canna make survival kid just like me. That's all
I'm doing.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Jail mail.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeahs up, I go to throwing jelly in in the
you go in jail, crush off the chips, funk up
the meals every time. So you don't you would have
liked my cooking, he said. I leave it to the shifts,
the schefs that worked there went the look cord on Blue,
all of them got their own little thing going.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
So it's just going good, all right.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And now this new album chess to process. So two
changes on their key clock.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Boosy key clock, y'all think rallo rallo.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, that's that's about it.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
So the album's done.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yes, it's done. It's done. I wanted a few more songs,
but it's done.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's like, you know, we we be our own motherfucking
enemies or whatever and be like.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Is it ready or is it? It's like it's you're
just never think.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, it's like is it the right time or is it?
It's never gonna be the right time.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
So said, let's just get to it, like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Man, are you happy to try to leave all this
drama behind. I feel like when you came in the
game at first, it was just so much all the time,
back and forth.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
But me and you, you're way different than I would
think you would be.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Everybody say that, everybody say that, But you know, it's
like I was around a lot of like a lot
of us be smart as rappers, a lot of us
even a lot like I see people be like, bro
y'all crazy and stupid down there in Florida.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Don't no Florida rapper stupid.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I don't give fuck what image they're trying to portray
or nobody from where I'm from, we be thinking hustle
moves like and we but we do tend to get
around people that is kind of slower behind. And like
I said, it's more followers than leaders, and.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Some of them leaders yourself.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah, they go to thinking like this lame shit. He cool?
He doing like chilling in the hood, drinking liquor cool.
It's like, no, that ain't cool. What I'm doing is cool.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Like y'all gotta get on this, and I can't backtrack
and get on that. Like and some people that should
be bosses of backtrack and get on that.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
That's why Florida be looking like like what is we
doing out here?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Like you know, it's so interesting to me, just even
what you had said earlier about being numb to certain
things that happen in life. And then you also do
you feel like you had to the song about being bipolar?
You think that's a real thing?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Are you just?

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I know people say it because you get mad quick
and things like that.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
The real thing.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I feel like, I feel like being about polar like
real thing, like even with me, like even but I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
It could just be the short temper ship.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I don't know, but I know I could like easily
go from calm like this how you say you then
oh fuck no, like.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
That's just having a temper. I don't think that that's
by poland this.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Though, but you know that's what they try to diagnose.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
So they did, they did. They diagnosed you as bipolar
when I was.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
A juvenile, but when I grew up they were like, nah,
you were just a badass kid.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
But you know, anger management is a real thing that
to have to learn how to deal with because it
comes it comes from some other places like there's a
reason why.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
And taking that was like my problem taking authority.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Like you're not gonna tell me what to do.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Oh man, I was bad with that that you ain't
my mamah ship.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
I was bad with that.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was like, you not about to tell me nothing
in the world if you not mama.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
But like you said, everything is a process.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
It's a process. It I know your.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Mom was worried about you though, like she had to
have been, like every time something happened or she see
on the news.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
You know, yeah, I'm pretty sure she still do be.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
But it's like my mom know, like my son not
dumb like my She know I'm not just going out
and trying to hang out with girls.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
She know I'm not just moving freely.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
She know I'm not in a car with this much people,
Like my mom know like howse she know? Yeah, like
so if anything, like yeah, anything possible, but she know
like he's gonna like make the chances so slim, like
he not out here just lolly gagging and doing moving
freely and stupidly and oh no, none of that. Like

(31:34):
I know, like I think longevity, like I don't think
right now I'd be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
As you think of longevity. What do you see next?
Do you feel like this restaurant is going to be
a chain? Do you feel like you'll do more in
that space.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
I know the restaurant gonna be a chain, but I
see next, like I want to start ah.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
I'm gonna give you this one.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I can't give you my Florida businesses because I want
to keep that nothing. But I want to start in
Saint Franco lounge, like a hookah lounge, because I went
to Atlanta and I was just sitting there.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I ain't let some lounge.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, I'm like, damn, this ship jumping and I'm seeing
how much people buying the liquor and all that. I'm like,
and I'm just knowing that I got a restaurant now
I could like kind of add it up in my head.
I'm like, damn, they there is a killing. So I knew, like,
oh yeah, this is the next thing. So I'm gonna
come out with like a Pierre Pierre hooka lounge. That's
what me and my business partner talking about right now.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
It do sound so classy though, Pierre Pierre, Pierre Pierre,
and that's what's crazy.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
That's my first name and that's his middle name, so
it fit perfect. I was gonna make that a clothing brand.
But I like one day we said it. We were like,
oh no, that's my middle name. Oh yeah, that's the restaurant,
Pierre Pierre, restaurant, Pierre Pierre, whatever, Pierre Pierre. Yeah, it's sauce.
It sounds just super fancy.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Sound like maybe you got taking the Chelsea House.

Speaker 6 (32:48):
Chelsea Chelsea House is our family business. Or Chelsea showed
me and my family, so I didn't bought everybody over there.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
So about the day figure out, I gotta pull up.
Yeah for sure if you give.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Us the dress, for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
And last Quesson, I want to ask teeth, Okay, do
you ever think about you know, everybody's been doing it.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'm redoing it. I'm really doing it. But I don't
know what I wanted to do. I've been trying to
see what my fans want to do, and I've been
asking people like shut up. I wanted to get on
my grown man like oh shit, he got money and
go veneers, but then.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
People like bro, you young, bro, dude, the diamonds one
more year. Bro.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
So I don't know if I want to because the
first person I went to he was all right, So
it's like I want to snatch these out go better
and go to Johnny or whoever the motherfuckers do it,
or do I want to get on my grown man
like restaurant vibe like and Goveneers like.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
So That's where I'm at with it. Like I'm like, damn,
I don't know. But everybody be like, bro, you young, bro,
one more year.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Bro, you got a little time.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
They be telling me, They're like, bro, one more year.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I'll be like, nah veneers, They like, no, everybody got
them trust me one more year.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
So crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I was like, y'all just want me to spend money, man,
Well that's funny.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I just had to ask you that because I see
everybody's trying to get get there right now and get
it together.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
All right, Well, jack Boy album is coming.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Out for sure when sometime in March. Sometime in March
probably we're gonna say. We're gonna say March fifteen. That's
how we come in marchin.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
All right, And if people want to go to the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Y'all downtown Oakland, none of then when you're in the
Bay Area, pull up on me. Let tell him, I son,
you there from this interview and nothing shot on me.
Oh okay, nineteen forty two or whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
We had to go.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
We had to go to the big business first for sure.
All right, well, jack boy, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
It's way aiate you, for sure,

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