OMI Jewelry Talks Differences In Quality Of Diamonds & How Most Jewelers Lie About Diamonds
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up its way with Angela Yee.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Angela Yee and I am joined by my girl
Teal from Chicago. That's right, all right, And Mano is
in the building and we are getting ready to talk
about one of his favorite topics ever.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ice ice, ice, ice baby, as in jewelry, ice as
an ami.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As an ammy, yes ammy, jewelery. And listen, we have Robert.
I want to mess up your last name, Matatove. You could,
I can't see your full name. Say it so I
know it, Robert.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And Will Selby is here.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Yes, I'm here like that. I didn't even know you
remember my last name.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I've known Will for a long time as an artist
manager but also as a jeweler. And I remember when
you kind of made that transition, yes into into can
you just talk about that just briefly.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Really quickly.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
It started from the managing artists, and I used to
connect them with the jewelers and I would get like
a small percentage of small cut, and after a while
I had to chase my fee because the jeweler wasn't
given it to me. So as me chasing my fee,
I was spending more time at the jewelry store. So
I'm like, you know what, I see some holes that
I could probably fix up, and the rest was history.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Me chasing my money, Yeah, me chasing my money turned
into a actual career.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
So it's not right.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It wasn't like you had a I mean, Julie would
never never.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It wasn't like you had a history of dealing with jeweler's.
You kind of stumbled on it by chanceahasically.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Yeah, I was broke at the times I couldn't afford
in the jewelry. So I used to be an engineer
in the same programmer. Yeah, like a fire protection plumbing engineer. Yeah,
in the same program You used to design the blueprints
for that. It's the same thing you do to design jewelry.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Now, Rabert, what made you say let me team up with.
Speaker 8 (01:50):
Will well Man? Will go back about fifteen years ago? Yeah, right.
We met through one of the people that he was
working with so recently. Once we launched this Army jewelry,
I figured he might be the best partner to partner
up with because of his you know, industry connections and
(02:11):
just we have a good relationship for many, many years.
And I don't think I'll owe him any money every time.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So okay, seeship.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
It was a good relationship, it was a good stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
How hard is it to get into this business?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Because I know you were in a Diamond district, right,
so it is Army Jewelry based in the Diamond district.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
We're around the corner sixth and fifty.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, all right, so how hard is it to even
be able to get that space there?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And it's a very competitive location too.
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Yeah, our space, well, we recently, you know, we've been
in business for almost twenty years, not as Army Jewelry
but as other company names. And I think about two
years ago when the market crashed, prices dropped so much,
it was like it was dumb not to buy a space,
so we figured, you know, let's go buy a whole floor.
(03:00):
So we bought about fifty five hundred square feet. Oh
that's nice, top six floor. You know, we see Fifth Avenue,
it's beautiful, and we see all the lights, all the trees.
It's it's nice. It's how much was the office man?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
You tell me every day?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Twenty million dollars every day.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Yeah, they got they got a mean sp it's a
mean spot.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's amazing.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
We're building for over year and a half. It took
a lot of a lot of a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And this was during when was this what year?
Speaker 8 (03:26):
I think we purchased it twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, right after the pandemic started.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Actually, I think twenty twenty and we moved in twenty
twenty two, twenty No, twenty twenty one. We purchased it
twenty twenty three April we moved in.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Sheesh, Let me ask about that time during the pandemic,
because I remember people were buying jewelry like crazy, like
the prices were skyrocketing. But now we're seeing those prices
come back down, suggesting it's adjusting.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Everything adjusted, I guess, to the new norm.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Okay, this is what we call people buying now right,
nobody's buying now.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
No, they're buying, but they're more efficient with their purchase.
Want to make sure they're getting a good deal. They
want to make sure they're buying the right product.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I tell you the truth. The money slowed up. The
money obviously the pandemic. Money was different. A lot of cash.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Out there for every everything.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
The money was every every every everything.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It was different.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
My boys game like my boy barbershop in Long Island.
He was making fifty thousand a week. You had like
twenty chairs, crazy cash, everything, everything was up when the pandemic,
everything everything.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
How do you make sure that you're getting the best deal.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Well, I travel a lot and I source, you know,
inventory throughout the world. It's really hard to get good
prices here in the States because it's such a big
competitive market. So we try, we try other avenues to
bring in the right inventory for the right price.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
All Right, I think I think it's about relationship and trust.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
A lot of relationship is so important because especially our.
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Business, especially our name, how you find the person that's say,
you know, two seconds you do somebody wrong, the word
gets out, You're done. Yeah, you know, your business goes
from one hundred percent to forty percent and that whole
point of being in it.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Did you like the movie Uncut Gems?
Speaker 8 (05:10):
I watched the little bit. I watched a little bit.
I know the people there.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Yeah, I love that movie.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Though we honestly deal with that every day. Like it's
not fabricated.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's not deal with west for people who have ever
seen it.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
We deal with the the lies, the the I guess,
the indiscretions. We deal with the basically everything you saw
in the movie as far as how dishonest individuals can be.
I'm from Brooklyn, you know, and from when Brooklyn was Brooklyn,
and I've.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Never dealt with anything worse than the Domon District. Never
like you would. These people that look like they're the
most innocent people in the world will take advantage of you.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
That's just the Domin District. You know, you can't trust anyone.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And for anybody who's not from New York and hasn't
been to the Diamond District, it's definitely a place where
one block, one.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Block nothing but jury and diamonds, and you've got all
jury stars on one block, right, And then you have
people outside, you know, soliciting you.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
You know, like you we got the best, we.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Got the best diamonds over here, we have the best
goal you behind me selling whatever it is they got
they got to run. It's outside pulling you in. So
if you like a tourist, you can definitely getting pulled
in one of those shops.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Yeah, but there's a there is, Listen, there is some
people that are still stand up and they still do business,
absolutely honest business. But it's very few and those are
very hard to find. But again, to ruin your name,
it's very very simple. But to keep your name, it's
years and years and years of hard work, you know.
So we started working from Canalcry you know, we came
(06:50):
from Canal Street to forty seven. So it was it
was it was a hard you know, earn trip.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So when I go to Canwstry and shop, I got
to bring my well, I like bamboo earrings and.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Stuff like that. Shop what you said, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Because I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
What can I just want to absolutely The.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Reason why it is because you know, I'm half Chinese
and so my aunt is really good at bartering because
a lot of people it's in Chinatown. So if I
want to get like I like to get like jade
or bamboo ear rings and things like that. No, don't
play with me, may no okay, because you drop.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
A bag on the bag I push a d M.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I pushed.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Joke.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I want to know that.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
I want that DM to be healthy.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
I mean to be healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So for Robert, for Amy Jewelry, why did you have
to like I know you said that it's been different
businesses at different times. So what are the reasons why,
Because I know a lot of people have jewelers they've
used for a long time, that you might have to
change your business.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
But you know, thirty years ago, in like eighty nine
ninety my dad started on Canal. Then you know, when
I hit eighteen, instead of going to college, graduated of
high school, it's like they just opened up a little
store and just start your own thing. So I kind
of started my own thing ninety eight ninety nine. By
two thousand and three and four, I was like, I'm
tired of this Canal show. I got to go to
forty seven. I got out of the retail game. I
(08:26):
came to the wholesale game. Basically I was selling directly
to the stores that was selling to everybody else. It's
better because your money comes in fast because it has
to buy it has to sell it. And you build
a relationship and you build you know, you build a brand,
you build a name for yourself. And last four or
(08:47):
five years, I saw the market change that the stores
don't need to go to wholesalers and get inventory because
they got the direct manufacturers knocking on their door. Here
this for you don't buy from Robert, buy from me.
So I figured, you know, it's time before the business
shuts down and fails. You got a transition. I'm always moving, moving, moving, moving.
(09:10):
So I said, you know what, let's open up an
online business. You know, the name came from my little daughter,
so always say Amy, Amy, Amy Amy. I was like, okay,
you know what, let me called Amy Jeweler. Let's see
what happens. So we called it Amy and we just
started the advertising promoting, and you know, thank god, four
or five years later, we're in a nice healthy position.
We always want to grow though.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And well, let's talk about some of the people that
you have had as clients, because I know you worked
with a.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Drake fifty cent asap, Rocky too, except.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
For except for you know, Tiger Trey songs. You know,
the list goes on.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So when people come to you, right is it do
they know like what they want? Or how are you
able to help them design?
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I try to make it an experience, and I try
to I try to make sure that they don't have
to do much. I don't even wait for the their opinion.
I try to create on my own and then present
it to them. Okay, So I try to, you know,
just provide an experience that's different from any of the
jeweler because we all have diamonds, we all have you know, gold,
what's going to.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Separate me from the other individuals? So I try to think.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
For them, okay, all right?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And when it comes to the average person, because I
just named a bunch of celebrities that you've done, and
these are huge celebrities, But when it comes to the
average person, I'm the average person when it comes to
jewelry coming in and like wanting to buy something, right,
how can I like just to get people some tips
out there, sit down with you and make sure that
I'm getting the best price possible for consumers who are listening.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Well.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
To be honest, I'm always trying to come see rub Man,
that's all you got, Come Sea, Rubb.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Gotcha the stories of like look, I was with my
girl Jazmine. We were actually in the diamond distrip one day.
She was like, I want to get I forgot what
we were buying and earring I think it was earrings, right,
And so you know, you have to do the pretend
walk out of the store like let me go as
you know, tell you all these tricks and then you
can ask you know, and then they'll try to lower
the price if you pay cash. I know sometimes you
(11:06):
can get a better deal that way. Like, what are
some things you can do?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
No, you just you just basically have to do a
little bit of research and just understand that we're always
going to try to make some money, but we're not
going to try to take advantage of you. And you
just have to basically trust the person that you're dealing with.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Trust Like I used to buy I used.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
To buy stuff from Rob when he had a wholesale business,
and we developed the trust to the point where I
don't even question his pricing. He tells me one thing
and I know for sure he's gonna give me the
best deal.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So you're not going to have you just be like
I don't even because I.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Know he wants and he appreciates my business.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So for people that don't know, they're not familiar with
the brand, what is the difference from from y'all and
other jewelry brands everybody else in the Diamond district?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I would say the creativity, I would relationships to relationship,
the trust, trust, trust, trust, and more importantly, we're going
to try to give you more bang for your buck
because us. The more you promote us is the more
our business increases. So we understand a bigger picture versus
just trying to make a quick lick initially off of someone.
(12:09):
So I think that's what separates us from the actual
other jewelers that are just walking.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Up and down the block.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, the holidays are coming up, all right, so we
do need some tips now on some you know sometimes
right we were talking earlier. What if it's a I
want to get like ranges and what you think? Okay,
if it's a newer relationship and you're dating somebody and
you want to buy some jewelry, what are some tips
you would give somebody that's like, I gotta find something
for this person who I just started dating, but I
(12:36):
don't know what to get them. I think jewelry is
always a good present.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Yeah, definitely. Holiday spirit is jewel all this day, you know, Christmas,
these holidays is I think it's jewlius, it's jewelry.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
If it's early on a ring, you can't buy no type,
what do you.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Give your Mommy got everything, she's seen everything, so you
got to give her something that's gonna make happy. Beautiful
diamond ring she's gonna put a smile on the face.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
So say, if you're in a new relationship, Okay, what
would you get your guy? You guys been doating for
three months?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Three months time for gifts times?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
How about three weeks?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's hard to buy guys jewelry. I think it is.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Because it's give me expensive.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, it can be very.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Diamond chain, Relax, you can't get gold without diamonds.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Because a chain is probably the most expensive way to
go because they're the biggest ring.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Well yeah, watch it depends watch the most expensive. Now
a ring would be more.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But then a ring, I feel like symbolizes too much.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
No, no, unless you're going.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
People are like, oh my.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
God, no diamond ring.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
You guys find excuses to get us nothing nothing. I
realized that too early. It's not just symbolized.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Nobody tell me do not buy black diamonds on why
why did they say that? They said black diamonds are
what is You tell me it's like dying coal.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Yeah, it's not that. I don't think. Yeah, black diamonds,
I don't really think they are really one hundred percent
natural black. Okay, they have to be coded with something
to be exactly just like the rest of the pink
blue green that is in the market now. It's mostly
coded because a real pink diamond small half a character
is a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's yeah, it's treated, treated colored, it's basically painted.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Yeah, it's still diamonds, don't get me wrong, it's still.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's just like how it looks. It's about about value.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
It's not a real but there is canary. There is canary.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
But a lot of what we're seeing is not true
the color because it's just colored.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
That's actually a question I have for somebody like me
who don't just be band Damn, it's a lot. What
type of diamonds.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Do you wat?
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Diamonds?
Speaker 9 (14:52):
I mean I do, but like if I go on
a jewey store, you know they might be like, oh,
these bbs is what it is today? What is the
left board damage that you will say is will pass
the test versus the lower class?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's that's like a good investment too.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Oh, that's a really hard question.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
We're trying not to say anything lower than SI one.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
It's not even that you if you're going inside a
jewelry store and you want to buy something with diamonds. Again, again,
the first thing is trust the guy can't sell you
no garbage. If you have a certain budget, he's got
to show you something decent quality for that budget. He
shouldn't be able to sell you something that's not worth
anything for something, you know what I'm saying to say VS.
To say side, most of the jewelers are bullshit and
(15:36):
everything is VS. VS. Why because people heard VS.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Right, Because it's like we really don't know. There's no reason.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
Again, it's trust. Like when somebody buys let's say a
diamond started rolics right, they're like, Yo, this is OVS.
It's OVS. I told him it's not VS. Because you
can't have a thousand stones in the watch. That's OVS.
Otherwise you're paying instead of twenty thousand, you're paying sixty thousand.
The guy sits there and picks exactly those little stones.
(16:03):
Won but wanted to make sure. There's way too much
time VF though VF no VS VS.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
But other than VS, you can do it.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
If that's that's flawless.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
So that's the best.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
That's the best. Yeah, but again people can't expect, like
a lot of people come, yo, me get that VS.
Shame for ten thousands. He doesn't know what he's saying
it's not you can't get a via that VS. Shame
for ten thousand, but he heard other jewelers saying VS
VS VS. So they think that everything is VS.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I think it's important to take time out too when
when people come in to kind of educate them.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Also, you know, because a.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Lot of times I tell us he we'll go in
like wanting something, but we don't know what we should
be even asking.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Our brand only jewelry, we stand behind and we if
it's VS. We say it's VS. A lot of customers
buy online because of trust, because of Google reviews, because
they're frame boll Like this year we have forty percent
repeat back customers coming buying for the season. For online business,
forty percent is a huge, huge market, huge number. So
(17:10):
we have the analytics. We catch who's the customer, when
did they buy phons before? What did they buy and
we see them coming back. That means that they both
from us, they tested it and they're satisfied. That's why
a year later or within the year they're coming to
buy more. Otherwise, if you buy something online you're not
happy with it, you will never buy there ever again.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Now, what is the point of buying like a new
Rolex versus a pre owned, certified pre owned Rolex, like
because I feel like, you know, you can find something
that somebody and to be I guess right, less expensive
if you're getting something that's pre own. Right, So does
it make sense to even buy brand new if you
(17:48):
can get a better deal on something.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I mean, it depends on your preference, Like some people
like new construction versus an older home.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Okay, it's about what you prefer in I guess your budget.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Budget is exactly your budget.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And what you're comfortable with.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
So I personally like brand new, that's just me, but
pre on is just as good, right, So it depends
on your budget, your comfortability, and where you want to
be with your time piece.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
All right, I want to make I want to start
making some investments.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
You know, in today's age, between you secondhand and brand new,
it's not that big of a difference.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, if you have something that's pre that's really made.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Addition, Yeah, So it's it's it's not like a watch
cost fifteen thousand and getting used them for five.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I bought twelve twelve exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
I bought pre owned Rolexes for presents.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
For presence, yeah, and I guess you get yourself brand new.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
No, I'm just saying like, okay, I'm gonna let her
know who's.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
I bet as a girl in the d M.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Here's the thing with the paperwork and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And you've got to have the paperwork, right, That's always necessary.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Not always necessary some people.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Because watch just be too old. I had to paperwork.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
No, there is some old watches with PaperWorks too. I
get watches from eighties still with paper Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I mean it still holds the value, but the paperwork
just makes more just better.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Again, if you're buying from a reputable person, you really
have nothing to worry about because if something goes wrong,
you go directly to him. He's gonna make sure he
has to take care of it.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I promise myself next year, I'm gonna buy myself like
a nice watch.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
He's not gonna buy it for you.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
We're gonna get a good deal. We're gonna get a
good deal on that watch.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I want to finish. I gotta finish the construction on
my house, which.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
One to deal with. But the deal that we want
to be good, iget.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
We're gonna see definitely gonna be a good deal.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We'll make it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We'll make a whole movie out of it. Yes, me
buying my first because I have a Rolex. I didn't
buy it, but I want to buy like someone gives me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh yeah, come on.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Robert, I don't think she deserves a game she does.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is that the wise that you would say people should
invest in?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Because I know there's a lot of different brands out there,
but does that Rolexes always today?
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Okay, yeah, I think the top can never go wrong
with what do you think they.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Never go out of style? Yeah, certain watches will come and.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
It's not in the style the values always.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
But certain watches are coming.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
It's hot, they go.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It was a couple of years ago. Everybody's talking about
Hue Blow. Everybody was on that right, But the Rolex
is timeless.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I might want to get one of the number Guarry
watches you know in Europe.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
You know they love Yeah, you're just saying, like here
it was super hot.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes, what about Onemi? I always hear. I don't know
nothing about watches.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Okay, just got Cactus Jack, that one that want everybody
wants Travers half a million dollars. I mean again, that's
going to come in. It's going to come right back
out half a million dollars for that watch. That's way overpriced.
They just put his name on it, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I guess if you can get it, of.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Course, yeah, right.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Two people asked when I told them five to fifty, like, okay,
we'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Say that.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Point you back. That's what you can say it right?
Say much after that?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Yes? That. Actually, somebody came in. I sold them a
rose Gold skeleton skeleton, Autumnal Automo skeleton for like one
eighty box papers, everything, and it was like, listen, I
saw this watch. What do you think. I'm like, listen,
if you have extra money laying around just to throw away,
that's it. Go ahead, half a million dollars and I
don't spend a half From there, they will buy another Paddic. Yeah,
(21:36):
you buy another Paddic fifty nine ninety rows gold, beautiful,
blue dial, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
One's selling watches right now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What's your what's your favorite watch that you owned?
Speaker 8 (21:44):
That's the one fifty nine ninety. I don't own it yet,
but hopefully one.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I know a guy who can get it for you.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I get it for hour.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
What's your favorite Rolex?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Anything? Rolex?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
You know, I love the other watches as well, but
for me, I desire Rolex. It's just as a kid
growing up, that was what you inspired to get Rolex watch.
So for me, it's always Rolex.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do you see a lot more guys wearing engagement rings
now and and also wearing wedding rings because I know
there was a time where y'all wasn't wearing y'all wedding rings.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
I think I think guys are embracing the whole relationship
stuff a little bit more now.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Really. I like that.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I think I think guys like that, you know, you know,
maybe some are still single out there, you know, in
the dms, but I think guys even left already. I
think guys are embracing it more now. I think they're
embracing their lady and showcasing her more now.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think, oh, yeah, Marcus Jordan, he's not engaged yet, No,
they but they're definitely gonna.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Get about Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
There's a difference between the wedding band and engagement.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, there's a difference.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
The bands is cool. The Diamond bands rocked. The band
they've been walking.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Some time because there was a time and men were
not wearing no wedding rings. Yeah, and now I feel
like I do.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Why allergic to rinks?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Your allergic to rings?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Allergic to.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Anymore from a ring?
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Right?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
He deals with gold all day.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
When you see a lot of it doesn't excite you anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Now, Well, for you haven't been behind the scenes. There
was a period of.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Time that you were in the tabloids. I was, yeah,
did that help business?
Speaker 8 (23:40):
I don't even.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
About to say that what you're talking about? What but
a couple of things that I did briefly see. I
just ignore it, honestly because the tabloids, for I don't
know Jack, who's here that no you speak?
Speaker 7 (23:58):
You speaking to the world? Is your the tab list?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Well, I think it was something pertaining to Wendy Williams.
Wendy Williams, I'm sorry Wendy Williams. I don't think anything
happened to her. I just think people just had an
opinion because Wendy's such a strong figure.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
What they had to do with you.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
I managed Wendy Williams and I with friends.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I manage her, I do jey for her.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Just connected in so many different ways, So you know,
I just I just feel like everyone had an opinion
about Wendy, and you know, I had something to say
about it, but I realized I can't always respond everything
that I see because.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You're not used to being in that position.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
For me.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
So the minute they came for me, I figured, I'm
gonna let them know I'm not the person to come for.
But I realized it's just a better way to deal
with things, and it's just sometimes better to just be quiet.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
It's just a business relationship.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yes, that's only a business relationship. Initially, I just tell
you truth. Since were on way up, Wendy wanted to
make her ex husband jealous, so she was flirting with
me a little bit. Yes, yes, And he's a great guy.
He had a lot to endure just dealing with Wendy
hands on. I know it's a lot, so I know
he had to go through a lot. So I have
nothing without most respect for him. But you know, she
(25:11):
wanted to make him jealous, so she was bothering me,
and she was, you know, taking a couple of close
photos and everything got leaked and.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
They made it did make all the weight.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
At all.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I didn't go anywhere. I don't want to mask. I
did nothing. I didn't even give her an extended hug.
With friends, we do business.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I feel like extended hug.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I just looked that way. Yet it was like two
seconds it wasn't, but it was.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
It's just business. There's nothing outside of that.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
With friends, we care about each other. I got nothing
but love for him.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Did you end up? So you started up as a
jeweler and then she asked you to manage her?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Well, I think same thing like the jewelry.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
We were having a lot of conversations and I was
just like, well, Wendy, you should be doing this.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
You know, maybe you should be doing that. Why isn't
this happening?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
And I guess and just the conversations that we had,
she felt like I could be an asset to her business.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And so you still manage her now? So how is
she doing?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Wendy is resting right now, Wendy. Wendy needs a break.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
In my opinion, I feel like she's been working straight
for like fourteen fifteen years, right and you know it's
time for this shit.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I has down for a minute.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Okay, yeah, all right, Mayna, thank you for co signing
that exactly right now. But we are you know, I
think people love Wendy so much, and that's why people
felt very protective at a time.
Speaker 9 (26:29):
So that's yeah, Si, Yes, they thought a lot of
different things.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know, would you put the nineteen forty two down
none of it?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Just to confirm I didn't slide anywhere. Nothing took place.
We have a business friendship relationship in that size.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, all right, well thank you for clearing that up,
because I was like when I first seen it.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I was like, I know, will exactly will an't do that?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Exactly?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Say we're just going to say, you know, I wouldn't
do that. It's just not me?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well perfect, all right? So now how can people find
amy jewelry online? I know you guys have a thriving
online business to google mm hmm that's it.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
You want to tell them?
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Just google Google.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Something on the score.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
I'm underscore jewelry online, Instagram, Facebook.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Am I By the way, all right, Robert was like,
the best prices costs money, all.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Right, Well the holidays that come in, so you know
what to do?
Speaker 7 (27:30):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
We love jewelry.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
And last and since we on the show, Rob decided
that anybody buying watches this month, we're giving him five
hundred dollars off on the way Up show.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, you got to get way.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Up, way up, way up, his way up, way up,
and we can trust you guys, and that matters because
this got definitely But I already have known you time.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
January first, the new people from.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Now through January third. That's my birthday.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yes man, way up, it's the promo.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
She wants a Yeah, come on you by your bag?
You want your know bag up there today? No, no, no,
that was.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That was bought by Okay, go ahead, get in here
post ready for the jazzman.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Bring right?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
I thought, may no, person, I'm sorry. I don't want
to get anybody excited.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
All right, Well, thank you guys so much for joining
us again. The promo code is way up if you
want to buy anything from Ammy Juliry. We appreciate that
because our listeners are going to love that.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Thank you, Thank you, thanks for having us, Thank you
for having us.
What's up its way with Angela Yee.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Angela Yee and I am joined by my girl
Teal from Chicago. That's right, all right, And Mano is
in the building and we are getting ready to talk
about one of his favorite topics ever.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ice ice, ice, ice baby, as in jewelry, ice as
an ami.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
As an ammy, yes ammy, jewelery. And listen, we have Robert.
I want to mess up your last name, Matatove. You could,
I can't see your full name. Say it so I
know it, Robert.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And Will Selby is here.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Yes, I'm here like that. I didn't even know you
remember my last name.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I've known Will for a long time as an artist
manager but also as a jeweler. And I remember when
you kind of made that transition, yes into into can
you just talk about that just briefly.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Really quickly.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
It started from the managing artists, and I used to
connect them with the jewelers and I would get like
a small percentage of small cut, and after a while
I had to chase my fee because the jeweler wasn't
given it to me. So as me chasing my fee,
I was spending more time at the jewelry store. So
I'm like, you know what, I see some holes that
I could probably fix up, and the rest was history.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, that's yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Me chasing my money, Yeah, me chasing my money turned
into a actual career.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
So it's not right.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It wasn't like you had a I mean, Julie would
never never.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It wasn't like you had a history of dealing with jeweler's.
You kind of stumbled on it by chanceahasically.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Yeah, I was broke at the times I couldn't afford
in the jewelry. So I used to be an engineer
in the same programmer. Yeah, like a fire protection plumbing engineer. Yeah,
in the same program You used to design the blueprints
for that. It's the same thing you do to design jewelry.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Now, Rabert, what made you say let me team up with.
Speaker 8 (01:50):
Will well Man? Will go back about fifteen years ago? Yeah, right.
We met through one of the people that he was
working with so recently. Once we launched this Army jewelry,
I figured he might be the best partner to partner
up with because of his you know, industry connections and
(02:11):
just we have a good relationship for many, many years.
And I don't think I'll owe him any money every time.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
So okay, seeship.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
It was a good relationship, it was a good stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
How hard is it to get into this business?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Because I know you were in a Diamond district, right,
so it is Army Jewelry based in the Diamond district.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
We're around the corner sixth and fifty.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, all right, so how hard is it to even
be able to get that space there?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
And it's a very competitive location too.
Speaker 8 (02:39):
Yeah, our space, well, we recently, you know, we've been
in business for almost twenty years, not as Army Jewelry
but as other company names. And I think about two
years ago when the market crashed, prices dropped so much,
it was like it was dumb not to buy a space,
so we figured, you know, let's go buy a whole floor.
(03:00):
So we bought about fifty five hundred square feet. Oh
that's nice, top six floor. You know, we see Fifth Avenue,
it's beautiful, and we see all the lights, all the trees.
It's it's nice. It's how much was the office man?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
You tell me every day?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Twenty million dollars every day.
Speaker 7 (03:16):
Yeah, they got they got a mean sp it's a
mean spot.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's amazing.
Speaker 8 (03:20):
We're building for over year and a half. It took
a lot of a lot of a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And this was during when was this what year?
Speaker 8 (03:26):
I think we purchased it twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Okay, right after the pandemic started.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Actually, I think twenty twenty and we moved in twenty
twenty two, twenty No, twenty twenty one. We purchased it
twenty twenty three April we moved in.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Sheesh, Let me ask about that time during the pandemic,
because I remember people were buying jewelry like crazy, like
the prices were skyrocketing. But now we're seeing those prices
come back down, suggesting it's adjusting.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Everything adjusted, I guess, to the new norm.
Speaker 6 (03:53):
Okay, this is what we call people buying now right,
nobody's buying now.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
No, they're buying, but they're more efficient with their purchase.
Want to make sure they're getting a good deal. They
want to make sure they're buying the right product.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
I tell you the truth. The money slowed up. The
money obviously the pandemic. Money was different. A lot of cash.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Out there for every everything.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
The money was every every every everything.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
It was different.
Speaker 8 (04:13):
My boys game like my boy barbershop in Long Island.
He was making fifty thousand a week. You had like
twenty chairs, crazy cash, everything, everything was up when the pandemic,
everything everything.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
How do you make sure that you're getting the best deal.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Well, I travel a lot and I source, you know,
inventory throughout the world. It's really hard to get good
prices here in the States because it's such a big
competitive market. So we try, we try other avenues to
bring in the right inventory for the right price.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
All Right, I think I think it's about relationship and trust.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
A lot of relationship is so important because especially our.
Speaker 8 (04:54):
Business, especially our name, how you find the person that's say,
you know, two seconds you do somebody wrong, the word
gets out, You're done. Yeah, you know, your business goes
from one hundred percent to forty percent and that whole
point of being in it.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Did you like the movie Uncut Gems?
Speaker 8 (05:10):
I watched the little bit. I watched a little bit.
I know the people there.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Yeah, I love that movie.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Though we honestly deal with that every day. Like it's
not fabricated.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's not deal with west for people who have ever
seen it.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
We deal with the the lies, the the I guess,
the indiscretions. We deal with the basically everything you saw
in the movie as far as how dishonest individuals can be.
I'm from Brooklyn, you know, and from when Brooklyn was Brooklyn,
and I've.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Never dealt with anything worse than the Domon District. Never
like you would. These people that look like they're the
most innocent people in the world will take advantage of you.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
That's just the Domin District. You know, you can't trust anyone.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And for anybody who's not from New York and hasn't
been to the Diamond District, it's definitely a place where
one block, one.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Block nothing but jury and diamonds, and you've got all
jury stars on one block, right, And then you have
people outside, you know, soliciting you.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
You know, like you we got the best, we.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Got the best diamonds over here, we have the best
goal you behind me selling whatever it is they got
they got to run. It's outside pulling you in. So
if you like a tourist, you can definitely getting pulled
in one of those shops.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Yeah, but there's a there is, Listen, there is some
people that are still stand up and they still do business,
absolutely honest business. But it's very few and those are
very hard to find. But again, to ruin your name,
it's very very simple. But to keep your name, it's
years and years and years of hard work, you know.
So we started working from Canalcry you know, we came
(06:50):
from Canal Street to forty seven. So it was it
was it was a hard you know, earn trip.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So when I go to Canwstry and shop, I got
to bring my well, I like bamboo earrings and.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Stuff like that. Shop what you said, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Because I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
What can I just want to absolutely The.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Reason why it is because you know, I'm half Chinese
and so my aunt is really good at bartering because
a lot of people it's in Chinatown. So if I
want to get like I like to get like jade
or bamboo ear rings and things like that. No, don't
play with me, may no okay, because you drop.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
A bag on the bag I push a d M.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I pushed.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Joke.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I want to know that.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
I want that DM to be healthy.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
I mean to be healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So for Robert, for Amy Jewelry, why did you have
to like I know you said that it's been different
businesses at different times. So what are the reasons why,
Because I know a lot of people have jewelers they've
used for a long time, that you might have to
change your business.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
But you know, thirty years ago, in like eighty nine
ninety my dad started on Canal. Then you know, when
I hit eighteen, instead of going to college, graduated of
high school, it's like they just opened up a little
store and just start your own thing. So I kind
of started my own thing ninety eight ninety nine. By
two thousand and three and four, I was like, I'm
tired of this Canal show. I got to go to
forty seven. I got out of the retail game. I
(08:26):
came to the wholesale game. Basically I was selling directly
to the stores that was selling to everybody else. It's
better because your money comes in fast because it has
to buy it has to sell it. And you build
a relationship and you build you know, you build a brand,
you build a name for yourself. And last four or
(08:47):
five years, I saw the market change that the stores
don't need to go to wholesalers and get inventory because
they got the direct manufacturers knocking on their door. Here
this for you don't buy from Robert, buy from me.
So I figured, you know, it's time before the business
shuts down and fails. You got a transition. I'm always moving, moving, moving, moving.
(09:10):
So I said, you know what, let's open up an
online business. You know, the name came from my little daughter,
so always say Amy, Amy, Amy Amy. I was like, okay,
you know what, let me called Amy Jeweler. Let's see
what happens. So we called it Amy and we just
started the advertising promoting, and you know, thank god, four
or five years later, we're in a nice healthy position.
We always want to grow though.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And well, let's talk about some of the people that
you have had as clients, because I know you worked
with a.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Drake fifty cent asap, Rocky too, except.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
For except for you know, Tiger Trey songs. You know,
the list goes on.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So when people come to you, right is it do
they know like what they want? Or how are you
able to help them design?
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I try to make it an experience, and I try
to I try to make sure that they don't have
to do much. I don't even wait for the their opinion.
I try to create on my own and then present
it to them. Okay, So I try to, you know,
just provide an experience that's different from any of the
jeweler because we all have diamonds, we all have you know, gold,
what's going to.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Separate me from the other individuals? So I try to think.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
For them, okay, all right?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And when it comes to the average person, because I
just named a bunch of celebrities that you've done, and
these are huge celebrities, But when it comes to the
average person, I'm the average person when it comes to
jewelry coming in and like wanting to buy something, right,
how can I like just to get people some tips
out there, sit down with you and make sure that
I'm getting the best price possible for consumers who are listening.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Well.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
To be honest, I'm always trying to come see rub Man,
that's all you got, Come Sea, Rubb.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Gotcha the stories of like look, I was with my
girl Jazmine. We were actually in the diamond distrip one day.
She was like, I want to get I forgot what
we were buying and earring I think it was earrings, right,
And so you know, you have to do the pretend
walk out of the store like let me go as
you know, tell you all these tricks and then you
can ask you know, and then they'll try to lower
the price if you pay cash. I know sometimes you
(11:06):
can get a better deal that way. Like, what are
some things you can do?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
No, you just you just basically have to do a
little bit of research and just understand that we're always
going to try to make some money, but we're not
going to try to take advantage of you. And you
just have to basically trust the person that you're dealing with.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Trust Like I used to buy I used.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
To buy stuff from Rob when he had a wholesale business,
and we developed the trust to the point where I
don't even question his pricing. He tells me one thing
and I know for sure he's gonna give me the
best deal.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So you're not going to have you just be like
I don't even because I.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Know he wants and he appreciates my business.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
So for people that don't know, they're not familiar with
the brand, what is the difference from from y'all and
other jewelry brands everybody else in the Diamond district?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
I would say the creativity, I would relationships to relationship,
the trust, trust, trust, trust, and more importantly, we're going
to try to give you more bang for your buck
because us. The more you promote us is the more
our business increases. So we understand a bigger picture versus
just trying to make a quick lick initially off of someone.
(12:09):
So I think that's what separates us from the actual
other jewelers that are just walking.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Up and down the block.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Okay, the holidays are coming up, all right, so we
do need some tips now on some you know sometimes
right we were talking earlier. What if it's a I
want to get like ranges and what you think? Okay,
if it's a newer relationship and you're dating somebody and
you want to buy some jewelry, what are some tips
you would give somebody that's like, I gotta find something
for this person who I just started dating, but I
(12:36):
don't know what to get them. I think jewelry is
always a good present.
Speaker 8 (12:39):
Yeah, definitely. Holiday spirit is jewel all this day, you know, Christmas,
these holidays is I think it's jewlius, it's jewelry.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
If it's early on a ring, you can't buy no type,
what do you.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Give your Mommy got everything, she's seen everything, so you
got to give her something that's gonna make happy. Beautiful
diamond ring she's gonna put a smile on the face.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
So say, if you're in a new relationship, Okay, what
would you get your guy? You guys been doating for
three months?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Three months time for gifts times?
Speaker 7 (13:08):
How about three weeks?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's hard to buy guys jewelry. I think it is.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Because it's give me expensive.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, it can be very.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Diamond chain, Relax, you can't get gold without diamonds.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Because a chain is probably the most expensive way to
go because they're the biggest ring.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Well yeah, watch it depends watch the most expensive. Now
a ring would be more.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
But then a ring, I feel like symbolizes too much.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
No, no, unless you're going.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
People are like, oh my.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
God, no diamond ring.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
You guys find excuses to get us nothing nothing. I
realized that too early. It's not just symbolized.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Nobody tell me do not buy black diamonds on why
why did they say that? They said black diamonds are
what is You tell me it's like dying coal.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Yeah, it's not that. I don't think. Yeah, black diamonds,
I don't really think they are really one hundred percent
natural black. Okay, they have to be coded with something
to be exactly just like the rest of the pink
blue green that is in the market now. It's mostly
coded because a real pink diamond small half a character
is a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's yeah, it's treated, treated colored, it's basically painted.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
Yeah, it's still diamonds, don't get me wrong, it's still.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's just like how it looks. It's about about value.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
It's not a real but there is canary. There is canary.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
But a lot of what we're seeing is not true
the color because it's just colored.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
That's actually a question I have for somebody like me
who don't just be band Damn, it's a lot. What
type of diamonds.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Do you wat?
Speaker 8 (14:51):
Diamonds?
Speaker 9 (14:52):
I mean I do, but like if I go on
a jewey store, you know they might be like, oh,
these bbs is what it is today? What is the
left board damage that you will say is will pass
the test versus the lower class?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That's that's like a good investment too.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
Oh, that's a really hard question.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
We're trying not to say anything lower than SI one.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
It's not even that you if you're going inside a
jewelry store and you want to buy something with diamonds. Again, again,
the first thing is trust the guy can't sell you
no garbage. If you have a certain budget, he's got
to show you something decent quality for that budget. He
shouldn't be able to sell you something that's not worth
anything for something, you know what I'm saying to say VS.
To say side, most of the jewelers are bullshit and
(15:36):
everything is VS. VS. Why because people heard VS.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Right, Because it's like we really don't know. There's no reason.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
Again, it's trust. Like when somebody buys let's say a
diamond started rolics right, they're like, Yo, this is OVS.
It's OVS. I told him it's not VS. Because you
can't have a thousand stones in the watch. That's OVS.
Otherwise you're paying instead of twenty thousand, you're paying sixty thousand.
The guy sits there and picks exactly those little stones.
(16:03):
Won but wanted to make sure. There's way too much
time VF though VF no VS VS.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
But other than VS, you can do it.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
If that's that's flawless.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
So that's the best.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
That's the best. Yeah, but again people can't expect, like
a lot of people come, yo, me get that VS.
Shame for ten thousands. He doesn't know what he's saying
it's not you can't get a via that VS. Shame
for ten thousand, but he heard other jewelers saying VS
VS VS. So they think that everything is VS.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I think it's important to take time out too when
when people come in to kind of educate them.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Also, you know, because a.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Lot of times I tell us he we'll go in
like wanting something, but we don't know what we should
be even asking.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Our brand only jewelry, we stand behind and we if
it's VS. We say it's VS. A lot of customers
buy online because of trust, because of Google reviews, because
they're frame boll Like this year we have forty percent
repeat back customers coming buying for the season. For online business,
forty percent is a huge, huge market, huge number. So
(17:10):
we have the analytics. We catch who's the customer, when
did they buy phons before? What did they buy and
we see them coming back. That means that they both
from us, they tested it and they're satisfied. That's why
a year later or within the year they're coming to
buy more. Otherwise, if you buy something online you're not
happy with it, you will never buy there ever again.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Now, what is the point of buying like a new
Rolex versus a pre owned, certified pre owned Rolex, like
because I feel like, you know, you can find something
that somebody and to be I guess right, less expensive
if you're getting something that's pre own. Right, So does
it make sense to even buy brand new if you
(17:48):
can get a better deal on something.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
I mean, it depends on your preference, Like some people
like new construction versus an older home.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Okay, it's about what you prefer in I guess your budget.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Budget is exactly your budget.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And what you're comfortable with.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
So I personally like brand new, that's just me, but
pre on is just as good, right, So it depends
on your budget, your comfortability, and where you want to
be with your time piece.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
All right, I want to make I want to start
making some investments.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
You know, in today's age, between you secondhand and brand new,
it's not that big of a difference.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, if you have something that's pre that's really made.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Addition, Yeah, So it's it's it's not like a watch
cost fifteen thousand and getting used them for five.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I bought twelve twelve exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:34):
I bought pre owned Rolexes for presents.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
For presence, yeah, and I guess you get yourself brand new.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
No, I'm just saying like, okay, I'm gonna let her
know who's.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
I bet as a girl in the d M.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Here's the thing with the paperwork and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
And you've got to have the paperwork, right, That's always necessary.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Not always necessary some people.
Speaker 7 (18:59):
Because watch just be too old. I had to paperwork.
Speaker 8 (19:02):
No, there is some old watches with PaperWorks too. I
get watches from eighties still with paper Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I mean it still holds the value, but the paperwork
just makes more just better.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Again, if you're buying from a reputable person, you really
have nothing to worry about because if something goes wrong,
you go directly to him. He's gonna make sure he
has to take care of it.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I promise myself next year, I'm gonna buy myself like
a nice watch.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
He's not gonna buy it for you.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
We're gonna get a good deal. We're gonna get a
good deal on that watch.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I want to finish. I gotta finish the construction on
my house, which.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
One to deal with. But the deal that we want
to be good, iget.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
We're gonna see definitely gonna be a good deal.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
We'll make it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We'll make a whole movie out of it. Yes, me
buying my first because I have a Rolex. I didn't
buy it, but I want to buy like someone gives me.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Oh yeah, come on.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Robert, I don't think she deserves a game she does.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Is that the wise that you would say people should
invest in?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Because I know there's a lot of different brands out there,
but does that Rolexes always today?
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Okay, yeah, I think the top can never go wrong
with what do you think they.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
Never go out of style? Yeah, certain watches will come and.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
It's not in the style the values always.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
But certain watches are coming.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
It's hot, they go.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
It was a couple of years ago. Everybody's talking about
Hue Blow. Everybody was on that right, But the Rolex
is timeless.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I might want to get one of the number Guarry
watches you know in Europe.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
You know they love Yeah, you're just saying, like here
it was super hot.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yes, what about Onemi? I always hear. I don't know
nothing about watches.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Okay, just got Cactus Jack, that one that want everybody
wants Travers half a million dollars. I mean again, that's
going to come in. It's going to come right back
out half a million dollars for that watch. That's way overpriced.
They just put his name on it, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I guess if you can get it, of.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Course, yeah, right.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Two people asked when I told them five to fifty, like, okay,
we'll let you know.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Say that.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Point you back. That's what you can say it right?
Say much after that?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Yes? That. Actually, somebody came in. I sold them a
rose Gold skeleton skeleton, Autumnal Automo skeleton for like one
eighty box papers, everything, and it was like, listen, I
saw this watch. What do you think. I'm like, listen,
if you have extra money laying around just to throw away,
that's it. Go ahead, half a million dollars and I
don't spend a half From there, they will buy another Paddic. Yeah,
(21:36):
you buy another Paddic fifty nine ninety rows gold, beautiful,
blue dial, beautiful.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
One's selling watches right now.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What's your what's your favorite watch that you owned?
Speaker 8 (21:44):
That's the one fifty nine ninety. I don't own it yet,
but hopefully one.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I know a guy who can get it for you.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
I get it for hour.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
What's your favorite Rolex?
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Anything? Rolex?
Speaker 6 (21:56):
You know, I love the other watches as well, but
for me, I desire Rolex. It's just as a kid
growing up, that was what you inspired to get Rolex watch.
So for me, it's always Rolex.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do you see a lot more guys wearing engagement rings
now and and also wearing wedding rings because I know
there was a time where y'all wasn't wearing y'all wedding rings.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
I think I think guys are embracing the whole relationship
stuff a little bit more now.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Really. I like that.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
I think I think guys like that, you know, you know,
maybe some are still single out there, you know, in
the dms, but I think guys even left already. I
think guys are embracing it more now. I think they're
embracing their lady and showcasing her more now.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think, oh, yeah, Marcus Jordan, he's not engaged yet, No,
they but they're definitely gonna.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Get about Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
There's a difference between the wedding band and engagement.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, there's a difference.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
The bands is cool. The Diamond bands rocked. The band
they've been walking.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Some time because there was a time and men were
not wearing no wedding rings. Yeah, and now I feel
like I do.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Why allergic to rinks?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Your allergic to rings?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Allergic to.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Anymore from a ring?
Speaker 8 (23:27):
Right?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
He deals with gold all day.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
When you see a lot of it doesn't excite you anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Now, Well, for you haven't been behind the scenes. There
was a period of.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Time that you were in the tabloids. I was, yeah,
did that help business?
Speaker 8 (23:40):
I don't even.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
About to say that what you're talking about? What but
a couple of things that I did briefly see. I
just ignore it, honestly because the tabloids, for I don't
know Jack, who's here that no you speak?
Speaker 7 (23:58):
You speaking to the world? Is your the tab list?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Well, I think it was something pertaining to Wendy Williams.
Wendy Williams, I'm sorry Wendy Williams. I don't think anything
happened to her. I just think people just had an
opinion because Wendy's such a strong figure.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
What they had to do with you.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
I managed Wendy Williams and I with friends.
Speaker 5 (24:18):
I manage her, I do jey for her.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Just connected in so many different ways, So you know,
I just I just feel like everyone had an opinion
about Wendy, and you know, I had something to say
about it, but I realized I can't always respond everything
that I see because.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
You're not used to being in that position.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
For me.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
So the minute they came for me, I figured, I'm
gonna let them know I'm not the person to come for.
But I realized it's just a better way to deal
with things, and it's just sometimes better to just be quiet.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
It's just a business relationship.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yes, that's only a business relationship. Initially, I just tell
you truth. Since were on way up, Wendy wanted to
make her ex husband jealous, so she was flirting with
me a little bit. Yes, yes, And he's a great guy.
He had a lot to endure just dealing with Wendy
hands on. I know it's a lot, so I know
he had to go through a lot. So I have
nothing without most respect for him. But you know, she
(25:11):
wanted to make him jealous, so she was bothering me,
and she was, you know, taking a couple of close
photos and everything got leaked and.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
They made it did make all the weight.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
At all.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
I didn't go anywhere. I don't want to mask. I
did nothing. I didn't even give her an extended hug.
With friends, we do business.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I feel like extended hug.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
I just looked that way. Yet it was like two
seconds it wasn't, but it was.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
It's just business. There's nothing outside of that.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
With friends, we care about each other. I got nothing
but love for him.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Did you end up? So you started up as a
jeweler and then she asked you to manage her?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Well, I think same thing like the jewelry.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
We were having a lot of conversations and I was
just like, well, Wendy, you should be doing this.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
You know, maybe you should be doing that. Why isn't
this happening?
Speaker 6 (25:58):
And I guess and just the conversations that we had,
she felt like I could be an asset to her business.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And so you still manage her now? So how is
she doing?
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Wendy is resting right now, Wendy. Wendy needs a break.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
In my opinion, I feel like she's been working straight
for like fourteen fifteen years, right and you know it's
time for this shit.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I has down for a minute.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Okay, yeah, all right, Mayna, thank you for co signing
that exactly right now. But we are you know, I
think people love Wendy so much, and that's why people
felt very protective at a time.
Speaker 9 (26:29):
So that's yeah, Si, Yes, they thought a lot of
different things.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know, would you put the nineteen forty two down
none of it?
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Just to confirm I didn't slide anywhere. Nothing took place.
We have a business friendship relationship in that size.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Okay, all right, well thank you for clearing that up,
because I was like when I first seen it.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I was like, I know, will exactly will an't do that?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Exactly?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Say we're just going to say, you know, I wouldn't
do that. It's just not me?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Well perfect, all right? So now how can people find
amy jewelry online? I know you guys have a thriving
online business to google mm hmm that's it.
Speaker 8 (27:05):
You want to tell them?
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Just google Google.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Something on the score.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
I'm underscore jewelry online, Instagram, Facebook.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Am I By the way, all right, Robert was like,
the best prices costs money, all.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Right, Well the holidays that come in, so you know
what to do?
Speaker 7 (27:30):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
We love jewelry.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
And last and since we on the show, Rob decided
that anybody buying watches this month, we're giving him five
hundred dollars off on the way Up show.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I love that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, you got to get way.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Up, way up, way up, his way up, way up,
and we can trust you guys, and that matters because
this got definitely But I already have known you time.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
January first, the new people from.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Now through January third. That's my birthday.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Yes man, way up, it's the promo.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
She wants a Yeah, come on you by your bag?
You want your know bag up there today? No, no, no,
that was.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
That was bought by Okay, go ahead, get in here
post ready for the jazzman.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Bring right?
Speaker 6 (28:26):
I thought, may no, person, I'm sorry. I don't want
to get anybody excited.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
All right, Well, thank you guys so much for joining
us again. The promo code is way up if you
want to buy anything from Ammy Juliry. We appreciate that
because our listeners are going to love that.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Thank you, Thank you, thanks for having us, Thank you
for having us.
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