Shaun T Opens Up About Being Molested By His StepDad, Usage Of Ozempic & Other Weight Loss + More
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and
y'all know how much I love talking about health, about fitness,
but I don't really let it work out. But Shante
is here with me today, let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Don't You don't have no pressure in working out? You
know what I'm saying. It starts with just thinking about
something that you want to do. I'll give you props
for that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I watch workouts on TV. You know how you lay
there in the hotel room and you're.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Like, oh, they got to work out.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And you know what else I do.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm gonna be honest and we'll talk about some Shawnte
history in a second. But the other thing that I
do is I look on Instagram and then I see
workouts people do and I'm like, I'm gonna try that later,
and I actually save them and then I never do them.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
But you want to know what something funny.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
This is gonna sound very shady, but we talk about
like when when fitness influencers on Instagram show like six
workouts and like do this for a minute, and I'm like,
no way, you can't do it for a minute, though,
Like they do it for like eight seconds and slow
it down. I feel bit, but I don't blame you
for not doing.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It though I went to I have every intention.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And then you see those like thirty day challenges and
it's like day one, you know you're gonna do ten
push ups, and then day two and I.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Just I don't know how many days do you make none?
I just look at it. I told you I saved
them one day.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But that's why I'm glad you're here, because I'm sure
I'm not alone that and you Shanty have had quite
a journey. Just knowing your whole story of how you
got to where you are today, where you the person
that everybody knows from insanity, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Also hip hop abs.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That was very important I think for our community because
we all want some. We still want some hip hop ads,
we do, but let's talk about your history and how
you even got there, because this is our first time,
you know, sitting down together, and so I just want
people to know where you came from.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, I came from Camden, New Jersey, but you know,
I grew up in you know, at the end of
the day, I like to tell people I grew up
with not a lot of money. So I got a
scholarship to college, which came with a food card, and
I could eat all the food I wanted and the dominoes.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Dominoes delivered with the food cards.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I just remember my freshman year, I would just
order Dominoes off the top, like, oh my gosh. And
I wasn't running track at the time, and so by
the time I got to my sophomore year, first semester,
I was fifty pounds heavier than when I left high school,
and freshman fifteen people had the freshman fifteen.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I had the freshman fifty. And then so what I
did was I was like, you know, I forget this.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I looked in the mirror, I was like, very unhappy
with what I saw, and I was just like, I'm
just going to hit the gym. I got on the treadmill.
I ran for ten minutes a day for a while.
Then I went to the weight room, eventually starting to
love fitness outside of track and field because I always
played sports, so it was easy to be motivated by
like winning, but just internal motivation to want to get better.
(02:50):
That was a different strategy for me mentally, and so
I changed my major from communications to sports science. And
after I did that, I had to teach group exercise classes.
Very first class I promoted on the college campus, and
I thought it was gonna be like, you know, fifteen
twenty people come. Ninety people showed up. So my very
first day of ever teaching, I had to teach two
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classes back to back.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And then I like fell in love.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Let me ask, how did so many people show up?
Like why is it that ninety people showed up? What
was it that you did?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So I was the guy at the parties in the
middle of the circle, and you know, I was. I
was very popular on campus for my freshman year, just
like being active on campus. I was always involved in
stuff and I was, you know, really interested in fraternities,
and so I actually pledged Alpha pa Alpha fraternity, so
I knew a lot of people. And so once that happened,
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you know, I just like absolutely just got a lot
of people to come to class.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I was really.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Surprised though, right and choreography was was your thing? Really
at first?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So at first I did a hip hop of Erobi's class.
I don't know if you remember the grind workout. This
is dating me. I don't know how you are. I'm
forty five, so the grind workout with the real world
cast remember.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Eric needs Oh my gosh, yes I do, so you
can date me all you were, We're all day to here,
we're in our forties.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Go. So, so I taught that particular routine my very
first class. I still remember to this day how it goes.
And then from there, you know, the rec center was like,
can you teach more classes? Can you teach more classes?
So then how to get certified and kickbox and step
and you know, basic aerobics, you know AffA certified.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It's amazing, yeah, because you were making money from a
young age then, yo, and you.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Know how much money I was making because I was
like the only one in town that was like, can
I put myself on the back that good I was
at the time, I was making fifty dollars a class,
which is unheard.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Of when I was in college. I was making fifty
dollars a shift exactly, and was I Yeah, I had.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
To work a long time to make that little fifty dollars,
so okay, so yeah, it was numbers.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So then from there I got into dance, and then
from dance I got more into fitness, and then I
got into fitness conventions, and then with fitness conventions, I
applied to be a presenter and I started teaching.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
All over the world. I wanted to work.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
For best International presenter. And then I was in a
pharmaceutical industry, you know, health and wellness and pharmaceuticals, and
I left that industry because I wanted to be a
professional dancer.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Moved to LA, started teaching group exercise.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And I watch you and so during that time, you
also dated somebody who was not very supportive of you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, moving to LA oh oh, you know, yeah, and
doing your thing.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And I want to talk about that because sometimes the
people around you and your circle can actually help dictate
whether or not you chase your dreams or I feel
like I can't do this, you know, And that's an
important lesson too.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So can you talk about before moving to LA what
that was like for you?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yo? So this is crazy. So I was dating this guy.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I still have scars on my body from like him
throwing plates at me and stuff like that was wild.
So when people say they've been in abusive relationships, they
you know, they oftentimes think it's only women that you know,
get that abuse. But like you know, especially in same
sexual relationships, it happens, right. So I just remember coming
home from one of my biggest choreography shows.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It was actually my first big choreography show.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I got so much like love and support from the community.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It was a few different cities that came to this theater.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And I got home and I was just happy, and
I was in my bedroom and my boyfriend at the
time was like, I just want to let you know
you'll never be a professional dancer.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Like, where was it? What was he doing?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well? He was just jealous. Yeah, And that was the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I was like, that was it. Because there's one thing
to go through abuse and like having to mentally navigate
your way through that, but it's another thing for me
to tell me I'm not going to do something that
I'm passionate about. And so, like two weeks later, he
went to work. I called my brother. I was like, yeah,
all the trash bags that you can.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
He was at work. He only worked a mile away.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Me and my brother like packed up all my clothes
and then we just bounced.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
So I moved back to my mom's house.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, it's important because I did want you to
talk about that because sometimes, like you said, people are
always like, oh, how could you stay in an abusive relationship?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But that was me.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I would have did X, Y, and Z, And it's
not always easy to get yourself out of that situation.
And sometimes we also feel like maybe they're right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, you know, oftentimes it comes to self confidence, self love,
and it also comes down to what you experienced as
a child, because I was sexually abused as a child
from the time I was eight to the time I
was twelve, and so I found this.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Out in therapy later.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But what I found out was that my confidence was low,
and I felt that I deserved that kind of life.
So we oftentimes look at people who are getting abused
and we're like, oh, my gosh, like if that were me,
And I'm like, you can't say if that were me,
because you're actually not in it, Nor do you know
what that person had to go through and what they
haven't worked through to be able to not make the
decision that you're saying you would make now. And so
(08:04):
you know, I just tell people out there, like, give
people a little bit of credit, a little bit of
space to just like kind of work through that and
also give them love and support instead of just judging
them for not making the quote unquote right decision, especially
when it comes to your physical abuse. But more importantly,
to be quite honest, the mental abuse is actually worse
because it scars you for much longer.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And I want to ask you, even dealing with the
sexual abuse, You've been very open about that as well,
how did you, like, how did that stop?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
So this is so.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Wild, So I'm just going to be super candid here.
It stopped when I was able to have an orgasm.
So my abuser was my stepfather, and he would literally
come up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He would always do it when he came home drunk.
I would hear him pull up in.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
A driveway because we had like a gravel rock driveway,
and I just knew what was going to happen. He
fought with my mom, which their bedroom was right under
my bedroom. He come upstairs, go into the bathroom, turn
on the light because in the bathroom, you know you
have the vent, So turn on the bathroom, close the door.
So he my mom probably thought like he just went
upstairs and went to the bathroom, but he would come
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my room, start by rubbing my butt, turn me over
perform oral sex with me.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
And it was so weird because like I.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Actually had the feeling of an orgasm from the time
I was eight, but I never ejaculated. And the first
time I did that was the last time it stopped.
Now here's the crazy thing that a lot of people
don't know happens.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So for me, once he stopped, that was like my
first heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Because you think that this this person's going around saying
they love you and like you're their favorite child and
you're doing this and you're protecting them by not telling.
And so I used to do things like when I
knew he was coming upstairs, I would just be in
my underwear, like I would do those things. Stockholm syndrome
to the tea. I was gonna say that at the end,
thanks for saying that, and so to a tea. And
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nobody understands, like what it's like. When I tell people that,
they're like, what, Like that's crazy, and I'm like the
foundation of my youth was that. And I, you know,
weather to storm for that because I thought I was
protecting my brother who was in the room next door,
and I was like, oh, at least he's going to
stop fighting with my mom, so I can take the
brunt of this abuse, and he's going to leave my
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mom alone, right, And so it ended up happening. He
actually stuck around for a long time. I never told
anyone until I was twenty one years old. However, I
told my mom after she called me and was like,
you know, he finally left, like he had a gun
to my head. And she was like, it's you know,
he finally left, and that was like the end.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Do you feel like she had any idea prior or
do you think she really didn't know?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yo, she had no wow idea because he was like
the person in the family, you know when we would
go to the Philadelphia like his family like he was
you know, he was the what I like to call
the h and I c you know what I'm saying,
and so everyone like worshiped him and they thought he
was the best.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
And so when we would go there, he would.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Be like walking around with me, and I looked like him,
but he wasn't my biological father, you know. So I'm
walking around like, oh yeah, like I'm the prince of
the family, holding this secret and just going along with
what everyone else thought about him. And you never know,
but you want to know what's like even crazier. So,
(11:22):
once I got into college and I started dancing, I
actually ended up getting accepted into this really amazing dance
concert in Philadelphia. And i'd never talked to him as
after I told my mom everything, Do you know that
he showed up to this dance concert and stood in
the back of the theater while I was dancing.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It was fucking psychotic. I was like, this dude is psychotic.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
WI.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So here's what I did.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So I was like, all right, you have two options here.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You can walk out of the room like act like
you don't see him, or you can perform the fuck
out of this dance, which I did, and I walked
up to him. I was like, I hope you enjoyed it.
I turned away and I walked away, and that was
the last time I ever spoke to him.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That is wild, And so he's never gotten any accountability
or had any repercussions.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No. But here's what's even crazier. No one ever really
asked me about this this deep So thank you because
I'm able to share this. So come and find out
years later, I'm sitting in the house with his sister
and my cousin who's her daughter, and they ended up
telling me he passed away.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I had no idea how he passed away.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And then they they also don't know that I was molested,
like they I wrote my book, but they had no
idea that this happened. So they're telling me this and
I'm like, good and then they say, you know, we
just want you to know that the last things that
he was asking for was he was like, do you
think because he died of cancer and they were like,
he was like, do you think you know? My boys
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would come see me, which is me and my brother,
and I'm like are you Like are you fucking crazy?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And so here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So on TikTok, Like a couple years later, I did
this story or this TikTok video about how I was
in the lesson. I explained this over the course of
like how this song portrayed the TikTok to go. And
that's when the rest of the family found out. They
never found out from my book. They found out from
that TikTok.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So yeah, and it follows you forever. I mean that
happened less than five years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So in my forties you know what I'm saying something
you're still processing and always dealing with them.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, well, I actually don't. It's always with me.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I use it as power now because I've been in therapy.
I went to therapy forever. I'm still in therapy. That's
something else in therapy, like last week, which is a
whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But yeah, you know, I also say you did your
DNA testing.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I sure did.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Listen, Shanty, I know we got to get back to.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
The but I do know we don't need to get
the fitness.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Let's talk.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
This is the real This is real life. This is
real life.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Anybody can see me with a six pack of big biceps.
But like, what's behind the six pack? Right, what's behind.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The behind the six path?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You know what I'm saying, because if it could empty,
I could just be full of myself or you can
know why I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And you know, sometimes people do think that that's the
that is sometimes the preconceived notion. Now he's got a
six pack, he's a you know, a dumb jock exactly,
And people do sometimes have a tendency to feel like, oh,
he's just a guy that goes to the gym, a
gym wreck all the time, but nothing behind that. So
I want you to talk about this DNA testing and
this sister that you discovered your biological father, all of that.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yo. So this is like crazy, YO, I'm like, ampt,
I'm getting to tell all my stories. These are stories
that I tell my friends. Are we out to dinner
and they're like what? But so my husband, so we
did a DNA test because my husband. My husband was like,
I want to prove to you that I'm one hundred
percent white. And I'm like, there's and you know, I'm
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like everybody derives from black people. You know. He was like,
I'm proving to you that I'm one hundred percent white.
And I'm like, all right, let's see. So I don't
know what we were doing, but we had friends over
that day. It was like another couple, myself and my husband,
and it was his mom and dad. So it was
six of us, and you know, the DNA test came
and we're like spitting in this thing. So anyway, you
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send it away and then like six or eight weeks
later you get it back. So we opened them up
and he literally is like, I told you I was
one hundred percent white. I'm like, damn, you want one
hundred percent white? Like damn? Right and then right, and
so you know, I found out was I knew what
I was, like, I knew I was twenty five percent white,
I was seventy five percent black. And it even told
me where my family migrated to, which was like the Carolinas,
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because my grandmother was always like, you're from the Carolina's
like that's where your family was. Cool. So I don't
think anything of it. And about a couple of weeks later,
I get this notification in my inbox in the emails
that they send out, and it said that I had
a first cousin, but I ignored it. So then my
mom calls me and she's like, Yo, you need to
check your inbox for you know, the DNA test you took,
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because there's a woman that's a the wife of my
brother's barber that's saying that she thinks that you're their
cousin or sister. It's wild, I know. And so they're
like thinking, she's thinking that we're first cousins, and my
brother's like, oh my god, that's so crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Like I've literally known this. He's been going to this.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Barber shop for like fifteen years, right, So he's like,
I've known this person, I saw them, like their kids whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Anyway, so she reaches out to me. We kind of connect.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So she thought that my biological father's brother was her dad,
but it actually ended up being my biological father wow.
And he got her mother pregnant when they were in
high school, and her mother, I believe, made her give
the child up for adoption. So they gave my sister
up for adoption. So she found this family. She lived
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with this family who you know, raised her and loved her.
But then she went on a search to try and
find her biological family. So anyway, once she found me,
everything started to unravel. And so she ended up reaching
out to my biological father's mom, my grandmother, and was like, yeah,
it's like that's your dad, and so we ended up finally,
so she's been really close to my mom and my
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brother for about seven years. I actually didn't meet her
right away just because I live in Arizona and I
never got a chance.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
But we went out to dinner.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And I was just like, you are one hundred.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Percent my sister, like you ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It was just like it was crazy. It was just crazy,
like we don't look one hundred percent alike, but our personalities,
like she, myself and my brother share this one type
of thing that we do with our personalities. And it
was just really cool to see. And she's so sweet.
She messaged me if I don't mess her for like
a couple of weeks. She always messages me like hey brother,
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because she actually didn't grow up, she didn't know our family,
so she's just good at like staying connected.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's really really sweet.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You got a lot going on, Sean tis going behind
the six pack.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's a lot going on. You know. Robin Robbers wrote
a book that said everybody's got something, you know what
I mean. So when you look at someone, you can
judge anyone on the surface. They can look at you,
they're like, oh she pretty. You know she's successful. You know,
they can think you somehow somebody gave you a lot
of money and that's how you got your successful exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I would love that anybody listening, I'm fine, I don't
do not mind.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So if you want to be my sugar daddy, honey, nah,
but cer anyway, you know, you can look at anybody.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Michelle is nothing but what people want you to see.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
No, And I think that's great because you've always been
so open with everything that's happening in your journey. That's
probably part of the reason why people feel connected to you.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, you know, when I teach group exercise, no one
really understands this. When I'm saying I know you can
do it, it's coming from a deeper place than I
know your muscles can push you up.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I know you've worked this hard.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I know you can do way more than what you're
doing now, not just inside the workout, but outside the workout.
So anyone out there that's about to work out, if
you ever want to do one of my fitness programs.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Just know it's hard.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I do not it's hard, But I actually don't care
if you can do the push up. I just want
you to take that into the motivation that's making you
do the push up to help you achieve things outside
of the workout in your.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Life and listen for you. You even said that some
of the workouts that you have is hard for you
to do.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Listen, I ain't got time listen.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'll be the first one to tell you I don't
have time for insanity anymore. You're not like gonna make
me do a power jump. I mean, I'll do it
if somebody paid me for real, for real, But you
know it's hard. I'm not everyone says, you know, it's
like when you see a person who's fit or they
do have a six pack. I don't know if you
ever heard or have you ever said to somebody like, oh,
you can eat anything you want. No, Like, the only
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reason why I look like this is because I had
to have a tremendous amount of will power and commitment
status in my own brain to stick to the plan.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You know, people say that as far as getting into shape,
it's seventy percent diet, thirty percent workout.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
What do you think is the balance.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean it's one hundred percent mental. That's why I
have a tattoo on my arm.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It says, conquer your mind, transform your life, because without
the mental fortitude to push forward, you're not staying committed.
Like if your body can do it, if you have
a healthy enough body to do it, your mind is
telling you I'm going to keep doing it. Somebody can
work out for a year straight and their mind can flip,
or they can have one bad day, or someone can
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pass away in their lives or they can get broken
up with and it'll all go to shit. If your
mind is saying like no, like you gotta fight, like
I gotta keep going forward.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
As we are watching people transform their bodies with ozembic
and all these other regovi and all these other medications,
and then I'm hearing like clearly was these are medications
that have been around. People have been using them doctors
for diabetes and for other things. But now people are
using it because they want to lose weight. And I
understand that sometimes obesity can lead to other diseases.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I think you know that notion about like, don't just
take this as a quick fix, but it is important
sometimes to get medication because you don't want to get
these diseases. It can't be preventative. But what are your
thoughts about that? Because I know you have to use
those pretty much forever, right, is what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
For them to continue to work, kind of like Rogain
for your.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Hair, Come on Rogain, or you can get the new
hair transplants. They work.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They actually are really good.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But that's another rich will.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I will get back to your question. But in insanity
and in my early days of fitness. I was bald,
and I was bald by choice because when I was
in college, I couldn't afford twenty dollars a week for
a haircut, so I would just start shaving my head.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Choice.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Baby, So right, So I when I started growing my
hair out in til twenty five, they were like, oh, like,
is that a wig? Is that that? I'm like, no
offensive people who do, because I'm like, go for it, like,
live your best life.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But no, bitch, is money money new right?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know what I mean? But my money didn't buy
my hair. But anyway, back to ozepic, semi glue, tide
and all the other fun stuff that people are using.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
So here's my take on that. I equate that to somebody.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Who's getting breast in plants, who's getting a Brazilian butt lit,
who's getting a mommy tummy tuck. Like, these people are
doing this for whatever reason they need to do it.
Is it confidence?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Most of the time? It's confidence? Most of the time,
it's something they don't like about themselves, So it's helping
them actually live a better quality of life by thinking
of themselves as a better person. This just now happens
to be a medication. The only thing that it gets
hairy is that it is very true. These drugs make
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you less hungry, explos your digestive down, digestive system down,
and you know it does help you burn the fat
basically because you know that's why people with diabetes takes it.
The thing is there's no support people are getting. It's like, here,
take this and it's a cosmetic drug. But unlike when
someone gets gastric bypassed and they have to go through
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six eight weeks of mental evaluation and mental health support
and going to a counselor teaching them how to get better.
This is how your life is going to change because
you've ever been thin before. They're just giving them the
drug with no support behind it, and I just think
that that's the one thing that's missing. If someone chooses
to take this drug and the FDA says it's fine
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to take for the rest of their life, cool, but
are you actually going to change the action that got
you to the place where you were unhealthy?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Or are you taking it because you have.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Worked so hard and you you were never able to
lose weight and you were eating as best you can.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So there's so many different variables for me to.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Be like, oh my gosh, like that's so dumb, Like
I can't believe people can do that.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I'm like, look, it's your body, you know. I can
easy say like.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You shouldn't do that, like you should work hard like.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And I think it's hard when people do say oh,
just work out and eat better, because that's if it
was that easy, we would all do it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It is not that easy, and no one. I think
the thing that we all fall down.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Sometimes you gotta go down to go up.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I think what's really really annoying about that entire process
is that every person that's listening and every person in here,
we've all judged somebody on something.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
But perfection is temporary. Change is constant.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
So we have to stop focusing on judging people and
be like, how am I going to actually change myself to.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Be a better person.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You know, if they're grown, if they're above over eighteen,
they have to decide what it is that they want
to do for themselves. I just wish that something like
ozempics and we glue tye, these peptides that are helping
people lose weight. I wish more support, yeah, just you know,
either weekly or monthly support to be like, how are
you doing?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Did you change your diet? But oftentimes doctors, no shaded doctor,
A lot of doctors.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Want to give you medicine before they want to give
you the guidance on how to change and how to
eat and how to exercise. So I just think that
there's needs to be a bigger conversation around it because
there's some people who are taking it that they probably
see that they don't need to take it, and they
would be much more mentally healthy and more confident by
doing it themselves.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Now, let me ask this about yourself personally, since we've
been doing this this whole time, but you've also been
doing a different fitness journey now, right, you've been doing
the these fitness competitions, yes, and so your body has changed.
How is that for you mentally? Because I know sometimes
we're so used to seeing ourselves a certain way that
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now you're bigger as far as you know, bulking up,
How is that for you?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yo?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
So it's I'm gonna be super honest.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So when I first started the journey, I had shoulder surgery,
so everything changed, like I couldn't do my hit training
or insanity, didn't want to do it anyway, you know,
Burbie suck.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But anyway, so.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I started to know. So I started lifting weights and
I got this amazing trainer name is Kristin and she
just like Kristin Bennett, and she just whooped my ass
in a jim.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And throughout that process, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I remember getting the two hundred and twenty pounds and
looking different, and each time I would weigh myself and
I would staying two hundred and twenty pounds. My body
was changing. But simultaneously as that was happening, you know,
I'm a forty plus year old man, and I realized,
like one day, me and my husband were having an
intimate moment.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
And so afterwards, I was like, yo, he ain't as
strong as he was before.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I'm like something, something's happening up, you know what I mean.
I'm like, I'm like down there is not feeling the same.
So I went to the doctor and I was just like,
you know, what can I do about this? I mean,
I wasn't like I could still perform, but it just wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
It wasn't wasn't it wasn't all the way.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
It wasn't wasn't exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
So then he was like, you know, we have you know,
testosterone support for men, and so I actually got my
first like testosterone actually got pills the first time, like
pellets that they release every now and then. Anyway, I
switched to like getting testosterone shots and it changed everything.
I became like happier, more energy. I even slept better,
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and uh my husband realized that I got stronger, if
you know what I mean, quote unquote. So it just
made me. It just made me become so much more
confident that I just told my my trainer. I was like,
I think I want to compete, and she was like,
are you sure? And she actually said to me, she
was like, I'm worried more about the mental effect that
it's going to have on you rather than the physical effect.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
She was like, cause you're gonna feel strong, you' gonna
look good.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And I was like why and she's like, because on
show day you're not gonna look how you really look,
because on show day you're basically taking your body and
trying to emphasize your kinesiology, right, You're trying to like
your muscular skeletal system. You're like, how rip can I be?
How symmetrical can I be? And she was like on
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that day, do not get attached to that face. And
it's so interesting. I remember like looking at pictures like
a couple of days later, and I was just like, oh,
I'm like, I look so good that day for the show,
but I'm like, that is not the face.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
But here's the thing that's like really tough.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So then I had to go into a place where
the judges were like, I got I won, you know,
five first place metals and I made it to Nationals. Okay,
so I'm going to right your little flex there. So
I'm going to Nationals in July. And so my coach
was like, now you have to bulk up, and they
were like he and my coach, he and my trainer,
Justin and Christen were like, he said, you got to
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get to two thirty five and she's like, you have
to get the two hundred and forty pounds now. Mind you,
why did I start this journey in the first ways
Because I was two hundred and twenty eight pounds and
I hated the way that I look. So there was
a total mental fuck that was happening as I was
gaining weight. And the one thing that I absolutely hated
about myself when I saw myself in the mirror that
day is like my full face, right, and I like
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still struggle with that today. Like my husband's like, oh
my god, you're absolutely beautiful. And anytime somebody hits on
me in the gym, thank you very much. When you
hit on me at thirty five, I appreciate it. You
have no idea, so just keep on hitting on me.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But so that's the only thing that's like really tough.
And I love my body.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I love the thickness, you know what I mean. Thicker
than a snicker is a real thing. And you don't
have to eat snickers, but you can. I'm a snicker,
but you know. So I love the body. I loved
the building of mysel I can feel it. But I
still kind of have a problem with the full face
thing that I'm working through it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And oh, my weight goes to my face whenever I
gained like three pounds. My face is like the first
thing I feel like you could always tell looking at
my face right before I get my period.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
My face is like yeah, I see it.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah it's annoying because then I annoying. I hate certain
like angles.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
But no one else thinks that way about us.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now, I hear it.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Now we're on the same page. You're on the same page.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Like I look at somebody like even when I see
guys who I think are hot that were in, you know,
a show, and I see them in their bulky face,
I'm like, damn it even hot or bigger. Like when
somebody says that to me, I'm like, it doesn't apply
to me. You know what. I'm saying something with you.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I saw that you also, because since you're so open,
I saw you on I guess it's called X now
saying that you feel you have sex like three to
four times a week.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Absolutely, Okay, Oh follow me on X follow me.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, we've seen some X on x X.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I actually just showed I actually just showed two in
the thirty five pounds of feet back here because I'm
like listening to the Yeah I don't know X. But yes,
me and my husband have been together thirteen years. And
let me tell you something. So the V too, Yes,
the V is there. I don't go too low, not there,
but Angela, you are taking me. You're taking me all
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the way there and I'm here for it. Yeah, you know,
I think. So here's one thing. So I almost partner
with this cockering company, and when we were going through
the process of partnering with him, you I found a lot.
I found out a lot and learned a lot about
you know, male health down there. And one of the
main reasons people get testicular cancer and things like that
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is because they don't use it. And the one reason
why people really get you know, limp down there is
because you know, you have to use it.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
If you don't lose it, use it.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You lose. So you got and my husband, first of all.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
My husbands, he's fifty two. He doesn't look at you
can follow him on X to Scott Blocker and I'm
forty five and I'm like, bro, like you're outperforming me.
Like I gotta pull up, you know what I say.
The testosterone help soon. But yeah, we have a lot
of fun after Still.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So what happened with the Cochrane company.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
They didn't want to pay me enough money.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Okay, if I'm showing my cock your.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Own, it's going to be some money behind it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Do you hear you should develop your own I think
so too.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Actually, one of the woman who.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
In that case, you know, I've had a.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Request to get for me and my husband to gets.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean, there's a real.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Demand for that, I know, but I'm like, that's a
one time purchase. I got to figure out how to
make passive income from it. Now.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Some people use them enough and they got to get
a new one if it gets worn out. Moving on, listen,
we got to talk about dig Deeper, because that is your.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
This whole time, you know, speaking of dil dos.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Okay, let's get back on the fitness train.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Back to that.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So let's talk about dig Deeper and why you just
decided to develop this new program for people.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It actually goes back to what I was saying about
my shoulder surgery. I just realized that as I've gotten older,
train in the way that I was training before. While
I felt really great in cardiovascular health, there's nothing better
than putting on muscle. The energy and where people have
to understand, especially women, because y'all say, oh, you're not
gonna get bulky.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I'm like, no, you're not gonna get bulky. It's not possible.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
However, you turn your body into a fat burning machine
the more muscle you have. But to make that more
like in Layman's terms, you will increase your metabolism. The
more muscle you have and so you know, a large,
a large part of my audience for home fitness is women.
It's way above eighty percent. But at the same time,
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women carry more fat than men. Naturally. You have boobs,
your hips, you have your cycle, you know these, all
of these things going to play and so what I'm
trying to do. Obviously, guys they follow it, they get it,
you know whatever. But I want women to understand, like,
building muscle is not a bad thing. It is literally
your best friend.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And now I agree it helps your metabolism. That's why
my trainer to always tell me you have to do
strength training because I love doing cardio, I will run,
I will do all of that, but strength training is
so hard for me. But it definitely does. And I
think with your pasture it helps so much. As we're
getting older and we're all like looking down like this,
even being able to work these muscles in your back,
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that's what's going to really help you with any type
of pain that you have there too. And I notice
when I do follow a regiment, it does help.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yes, so perfect, I love it. You just gave a
plug for dig Deeper. And what I do is I
teach people. It's designed in three different phases or collections,
if you will. And the first one is like these
giant circuits that just get your muscles sore, get the
moving I'm teaching how to activate. Then it goes into
like super set and time under tention, where you gain
more control of your muscles.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
You really start to build. And then it goes to.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
The build phase where that's where a lot of people
find it difficult, but it's more fun because the weight
is a little bit heavier, and that's where a lot
of women get afraid.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
They're like, oh, that wasths too heavy.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I'm gonna you know.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I'm like, that's me, this is it, but this is
a good day.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
But remember the first you were I don't know about you,
but like for people out there, the first time you're
able to do a push up, and how powerful that felt, right,
you know?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean, that's just like the consistency that's building your strength.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Even a plank for me, if I remember when I
was doing yoga all the time, and then I was
able to plank for sixty seconds. At first, because I
couldn't do it, my whole body would be shaking. And
then after I kept going and kept going and I
was able to do that for sixty seconds.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It was amazing. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah it's yeahs just over time.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
So dig deeper is all strengths.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I don't you need a bench in dumbbells. You can
do it at the gym if you want. You know,
you can stream it and I take you through. And
I'm telling you the results that people are having just
after thirty days, not necessarily not weight loss, like body recomposition,
just seeing their body change because I always say, like
a pound of fat is this big and circumference a
pound of muscle is there?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Okay, so people are so focused on weight loss.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I'm like, focused on fat loss and your body's going
to get smaller and stronger rather than focusing on losing weight,
and you're losing muscle too. That's why just doing cardio,
unless you really like it or you're a marathon runner
or something like that, is not really the thing that's
going to give you the max benefit, especially if you're
just a quote unquote regular person that's like, yo, you know,
(35:12):
I'm a mom, I got to go to pick up
my kids, Like what.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Can I do to keep myself strong?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Fine? Forty five minutes a day lift and do some
cardio after and the combination will be great.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
All right, well good, Well, I'm definitely going to dig deeper.
I cannot wait to do this work out because I
am trying to be better and making sure that I
do some strength training because I know it's important for me. Yes,
and you know I always talk about nutrition with my
juice bar about to reopen and all of those things.
So incorporating all of this together, I think is the
most important thing. And I want to make sure it's
twenty twenty four. You know, we got to lead by example,
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and it's January. I see a lot the gingin a lot.
Let's crowd it already, you know. But anything that you
can do at home is a win to me.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, it's easy, it's accessible, and zero boundaries of barriers
for you to actually get to the gym because you
can do it at home.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Because sometimes people.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like people are watching you when you haven't been working out.
You're like, I want to go to the gym and
people laughing at me.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I want to make a point to nutrition because I
didn't develop a nutrition program with this, even though I
wanted to. But nutrition is majorly important for any kind
of body recomposition or body change, weight gain, weight loss,
weight maintenance. You just have to like roll a thumb,
get in the protein. Get the protein, and don't be
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afraid of carbs. If that's the two things I can take.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
So people, you know you got to do carbs tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Why like if you actually do strain training tomorrow, you're
gonna burn. Like that's what's burning when you're lifting the carbs.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And good there's good sugar too. I always tell people
that too, like.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Good sugar fruit.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Hey, yeah, fruits.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know my favorite thing in the morning.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
With my oat meal.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Okay, see there you have it.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Well, I have a trick. I have a quick hack
okay with blueberries. So have you ever been to the
carnival and you got like a candy apple?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I love candy.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
So get some blueberries, a bowl of blueberries if you
want to snack, and then you get some honey and
you just kind of drizzle it over frozen blueberries. Okay,
let us sit there for like sixty seconds, and when
you eat the blueberries, it tastes like candied apples, like
candy blueberries because the honey gets hard and it's so good.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You won't even crave ice cream.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
All right, well, look, I feel like you need to
put this nutrition program.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Together to trust and believe.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
All right, we'll be looking for it and trust and believe.
Also the podcast, you guys make sure.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, but my podcast name is changing to Tears for Transformation,
and it's I'm reshooting it and relaunching it in just
about a few months.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
See look at us. We covered all types of things.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Well, I'm glad we were able to dig deeper today
with you also, by the way, and definitely you got
to come back when I start doing the workout too,
I'll let you know so we can see what my
transformation is looking like. All right, well, thank you so much,
you guys. And how can people follow you and find you?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah, so you can follow me.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
If you want to follow me on for fitness, you
can follow me on Instant Graham and Facebook s h
A U n T. If you want to follow me
for fun, you can follow me on TikTok. If you
want to follow me for ratchetness, follow me on x
all of this at shawnte And if you.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Want, yes, she follows me in a real place.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You get the fitness, the fun and the ratchetness and
a few cheeks here and there. But if you want
to get dig deeper, go to dig deeper nation dot com.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
All right, well, thank you so much. It was really
a pleasure. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
It was my pleasure to thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's way up
Speaker 3 (38:29):
WAM
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and
y'all know how much I love talking about health, about fitness,
but I don't really let it work out. But Shante
is here with me today, let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Don't You don't have no pressure in working out? You
know what I'm saying. It starts with just thinking about
something that you want to do. I'll give you props
for that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I watch workouts on TV. You know how you lay
there in the hotel room and you're.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Like, oh, they got to work out.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And you know what else I do.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm gonna be honest and we'll talk about some Shawnte
history in a second. But the other thing that I
do is I look on Instagram and then I see
workouts people do and I'm like, I'm gonna try that later,
and I actually save them and then I never do them.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
But you want to know what something funny.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
This is gonna sound very shady, but we talk about
like when when fitness influencers on Instagram show like six
workouts and like do this for a minute, and I'm like,
no way, you can't do it for a minute, though,
Like they do it for like eight seconds and slow
it down. I feel bit, but I don't blame you
for not doing.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It though I went to I have every intention.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And then you see those like thirty day challenges and
it's like day one, you know you're gonna do ten
push ups, and then day two and I.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Just I don't know how many days do you make none?
I just look at it. I told you I saved
them one day.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But that's why I'm glad you're here, because I'm sure
I'm not alone that and you Shanty have had quite
a journey. Just knowing your whole story of how you
got to where you are today, where you the person
that everybody knows from insanity, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Also hip hop abs.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That was very important I think for our community because
we all want some. We still want some hip hop ads,
we do, but let's talk about your history and how
you even got there, because this is our first time,
you know, sitting down together, and so I just want
people to know where you came from.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, I came from Camden, New Jersey, but you know,
I grew up in you know, at the end of
the day, I like to tell people I grew up
with not a lot of money. So I got a
scholarship to college, which came with a food card, and
I could eat all the food I wanted and the dominoes.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Dominoes delivered with the food cards.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So I just remember my freshman year, I would just
order Dominoes off the top, like, oh my gosh. And
I wasn't running track at the time, and so by
the time I got to my sophomore year, first semester,
I was fifty pounds heavier than when I left high school,
and freshman fifteen people had the freshman fifteen.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I had the freshman fifty. And then so what I
did was I was like, you know, I forget this.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I looked in the mirror, I was like, very unhappy
with what I saw, and I was just like, I'm
just going to hit the gym. I got on the treadmill.
I ran for ten minutes a day for a while.
Then I went to the weight room, eventually starting to
love fitness outside of track and field because I always
played sports, so it was easy to be motivated by
like winning, but just internal motivation to want to get better.
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That was a different strategy for me mentally, and so
I changed my major from communications to sports science. And
after I did that, I had to teach group exercise classes.
Very first class I promoted on the college campus, and
I thought it was gonna be like, you know, fifteen
twenty people come. Ninety people showed up. So my very
first day of ever teaching, I had to teach two
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classes back to back.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And then I like fell in love.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Let me ask, how did so many people show up?
Like why is it that ninety people showed up? What
was it that you did?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So I was the guy at the parties in the
middle of the circle, and you know, I was. I
was very popular on campus for my freshman year, just
like being active on campus. I was always involved in
stuff and I was, you know, really interested in fraternities,
and so I actually pledged Alpha pa Alpha fraternity, so
I knew a lot of people. And so once that happened,
(03:42):
you know, I just like absolutely just got a lot
of people to come to class.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
And I was really.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Surprised though, right and choreography was was your thing? Really
at first?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So at first I did a hip hop of Erobi's class.
I don't know if you remember the grind workout. This
is dating me. I don't know how you are. I'm
forty five, so the grind workout with the real world
cast remember.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Eric needs Oh my gosh, yes I do, so you
can date me all you were, We're all day to here,
we're in our forties.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Go. So, so I taught that particular routine my very
first class. I still remember to this day how it goes.
And then from there, you know, the rec center was like,
can you teach more classes? Can you teach more classes?
So then how to get certified and kickbox and step
and you know, basic aerobics, you know AffA certified.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It's amazing, yeah, because you were making money from a
young age then, yo, and you.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Know how much money I was making because I was
like the only one in town that was like, can
I put myself on the back that good I was
at the time, I was making fifty dollars a class,
which is unheard.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Of when I was in college. I was making fifty
dollars a shift exactly, and was I Yeah, I had.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
To work a long time to make that little fifty dollars,
so okay, so yeah, it was numbers.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So then from there I got into dance, and then
from dance I got more into fitness, and then I
got into fitness conventions, and then with fitness conventions, I
applied to be a presenter and I started teaching.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
All over the world. I wanted to work.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
For best International presenter. And then I was in a
pharmaceutical industry, you know, health and wellness and pharmaceuticals, and
I left that industry because I wanted to be a
professional dancer.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Moved to LA, started teaching group exercise.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And I watch you and so during that time, you
also dated somebody who was not very supportive of you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yes, moving to LA oh oh, you know, yeah, and
doing your thing.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And I want to talk about that because sometimes the
people around you and your circle can actually help dictate
whether or not you chase your dreams or I feel
like I can't do this, you know, And that's an
important lesson too.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So can you talk about before moving to LA what
that was like for you?
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yo? So this is crazy. So I was dating this guy.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I still have scars on my body from like him
throwing plates at me and stuff like that was wild.
So when people say they've been in abusive relationships, they
you know, they oftentimes think it's only women that you know,
get that abuse. But like you know, especially in same
sexual relationships, it happens, right. So I just remember coming
home from one of my biggest choreography shows.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
It was actually my first big choreography show.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I got so much like love and support from the community.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
It was a few different cities that came to this theater.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
And I got home and I was just happy, and
I was in my bedroom and my boyfriend at the
time was like, I just want to let you know
you'll never be a professional dancer.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Like, where was it? What was he doing?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well? He was just jealous. Yeah, And that was the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I was like, that was it. Because there's one thing
to go through abuse and like having to mentally navigate
your way through that, but it's another thing for me
to tell me I'm not going to do something that
I'm passionate about. And so, like two weeks later, he
went to work. I called my brother. I was like, yeah,
all the trash bags that you can.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
He was at work. He only worked a mile away.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Me and my brother like packed up all my clothes
and then we just bounced.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
So I moved back to my mom's house.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, it's important because I did want you to
talk about that because sometimes, like you said, people are
always like, oh, how could you stay in an abusive relationship?
Speaker 1 (07:18):
But that was me.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I would have did X, Y, and Z, And it's
not always easy to get yourself out of that situation.
And sometimes we also feel like maybe they're right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, you know, oftentimes it comes to self confidence, self love,
and it also comes down to what you experienced as
a child, because I was sexually abused as a child
from the time I was eight to the time I
was twelve, and so I found this.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Out in therapy later.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But what I found out was that my confidence was low,
and I felt that I deserved that kind of life.
So we oftentimes look at people who are getting abused
and we're like, oh, my gosh, like if that were me,
And I'm like, you can't say if that were me,
because you're actually not in it, Nor do you know
what that person had to go through and what they
haven't worked through to be able to not make the
decision that you're saying you would make now. And so
(08:04):
you know, I just tell people out there, like, give
people a little bit of credit, a little bit of
space to just like kind of work through that and
also give them love and support instead of just judging
them for not making the quote unquote right decision, especially
when it comes to your physical abuse. But more importantly,
to be quite honest, the mental abuse is actually worse
because it scars you for much longer.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And I want to ask you, even dealing with the
sexual abuse, You've been very open about that as well,
how did you, like, how did that stop?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
So this is so.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Wild, So I'm just going to be super candid here.
It stopped when I was able to have an orgasm.
So my abuser was my stepfather, and he would literally
come up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
He would always do it when he came home drunk.
I would hear him pull up in.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
A driveway because we had like a gravel rock driveway,
and I just knew what was going to happen. He
fought with my mom, which their bedroom was right under
my bedroom. He come upstairs, go into the bathroom, turn
on the light because in the bathroom, you know you
have the vent, So turn on the bathroom, close the door.
So he my mom probably thought like he just went
upstairs and went to the bathroom, but he would come
(09:11):
my room, start by rubbing my butt, turn me over
perform oral sex with me.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
And it was so weird because like I.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Actually had the feeling of an orgasm from the time
I was eight, but I never ejaculated. And the first
time I did that was the last time it stopped.
Now here's the crazy thing that a lot of people
don't know happens.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So for me, once he stopped, that was like my
first heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Because you think that this this person's going around saying
they love you and like you're their favorite child and
you're doing this and you're protecting them by not telling.
And so I used to do things like when I
knew he was coming upstairs, I would just be in
my underwear, like I would do those things. Stockholm syndrome
to the tea. I was gonna say that at the end,
thanks for saying that, and so to a tea. And
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nobody understands, like what it's like. When I tell people that,
they're like, what, Like that's crazy, and I'm like the
foundation of my youth was that. And I, you know,
weather to storm for that because I thought I was
protecting my brother who was in the room next door,
and I was like, oh, at least he's going to
stop fighting with my mom, so I can take the
brunt of this abuse, and he's going to leave my
(10:20):
mom alone, right, And so it ended up happening. He
actually stuck around for a long time. I never told
anyone until I was twenty one years old. However, I
told my mom after she called me and was like,
you know, he finally left, like he had a gun
to my head. And she was like, it's you know,
he finally left, and that was like the end.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Do you feel like she had any idea prior or
do you think she really didn't know?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yo, she had no wow idea because he was like
the person in the family, you know when we would
go to the Philadelphia like his family like he was
you know, he was the what I like to call
the h and I c you know what I'm saying,
and so everyone like worshiped him and they thought he
was the best.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
And so when we would go there, he would.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Be like walking around with me, and I looked like him,
but he wasn't my biological father, you know. So I'm
walking around like, oh yeah, like I'm the prince of
the family, holding this secret and just going along with
what everyone else thought about him. And you never know,
but you want to know what's like even crazier. So,
(11:22):
once I got into college and I started dancing, I
actually ended up getting accepted into this really amazing dance
concert in Philadelphia. And i'd never talked to him as
after I told my mom everything, Do you know that
he showed up to this dance concert and stood in
the back of the theater while I was dancing.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
It was fucking psychotic. I was like, this dude is psychotic.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
WI.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So here's what I did.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So I was like, all right, you have two options here.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You can walk out of the room like act like
you don't see him, or you can perform the fuck
out of this dance, which I did, and I walked
up to him. I was like, I hope you enjoyed it.
I turned away and I walked away, and that was
the last time I ever spoke to him.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That is wild, And so he's never gotten any accountability
or had any repercussions.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
No. But here's what's even crazier. No one ever really
asked me about this this deep So thank you because
I'm able to share this. So come and find out
years later, I'm sitting in the house with his sister
and my cousin who's her daughter, and they ended up
telling me he passed away.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I had no idea how he passed away.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
And then they they also don't know that I was molested,
like they I wrote my book, but they had no
idea that this happened. So they're telling me this and
I'm like, good and then they say, you know, we
just want you to know that the last things that
he was asking for was he was like, do you
think because he died of cancer and they were like,
he was like, do you think you know? My boys
(12:52):
would come see me, which is me and my brother,
and I'm like are you Like are you fucking crazy?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And so here's the crazy thing.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So on TikTok, Like a couple years later, I did
this story or this TikTok video about how I was
in the lesson. I explained this over the course of
like how this song portrayed the TikTok to go. And
that's when the rest of the family found out. They
never found out from my book. They found out from
that TikTok.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
So yeah, and it follows you forever. I mean that
happened less than five years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
So in my forties you know what I'm saying something
you're still processing and always dealing with them.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, well, I actually don't. It's always with me.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I use it as power now because I've been in therapy.
I went to therapy forever. I'm still in therapy. That's
something else in therapy, like last week, which is a
whole other conversation.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
But yeah, you know, I also say you did your
DNA testing.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I sure did.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Listen, Shanty, I know we got to get back to.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
The but I do know we don't need to get
the fitness.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Let's talk.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
This is the real This is real life. This is
real life.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Anybody can see me with a six pack of big biceps.
But like, what's behind the six pack? Right, what's behind.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
The behind the six path?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You know what I'm saying, because if it could empty,
I could just be full of myself or you can
know why I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And you know, sometimes people do think that that's the
that is sometimes the preconceived notion. Now he's got a
six pack, he's a you know, a dumb jock exactly,
And people do sometimes have a tendency to feel like, oh,
he's just a guy that goes to the gym, a
gym wreck all the time, but nothing behind that. So
I want you to talk about this DNA testing and
this sister that you discovered your biological father, all of that.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yo. So this is like crazy, YO, I'm like, ampt,
I'm getting to tell all my stories. These are stories
that I tell my friends. Are we out to dinner
and they're like what? But so my husband, so we
did a DNA test because my husband. My husband was like,
I want to prove to you that I'm one hundred
percent white. And I'm like, there's and you know, I'm
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like everybody derives from black people. You know. He was like,
I'm proving to you that I'm one hundred percent white.
And I'm like, all right, let's see. So I don't
know what we were doing, but we had friends over
that day. It was like another couple, myself and my husband,
and it was his mom and dad. So it was
six of us, and you know, the DNA test came
and we're like spitting in this thing. So anyway, you
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send it away and then like six or eight weeks
later you get it back. So we opened them up
and he literally is like, I told you I was
one hundred percent white. I'm like, damn, you want one
hundred percent white? Like damn? Right and then right, and
so you know, I found out was I knew what
I was, like, I knew I was twenty five percent white,
I was seventy five percent black. And it even told
me where my family migrated to, which was like the Carolinas,
(15:31):
because my grandmother was always like, you're from the Carolina's
like that's where your family was. Cool. So I don't
think anything of it. And about a couple of weeks later,
I get this notification in my inbox in the emails
that they send out, and it said that I had
a first cousin, but I ignored it. So then my
mom calls me and she's like, Yo, you need to
check your inbox for you know, the DNA test you took,
(15:55):
because there's a woman that's a the wife of my
brother's barber that's saying that she thinks that you're their
cousin or sister. It's wild, I know. And so they're
like thinking, she's thinking that we're first cousins, and my
brother's like, oh my god, that's so crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Like I've literally known this. He's been going to this.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Barber shop for like fifteen years, right, So he's like,
I've known this person, I saw them, like their kids whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Anyway, so she reaches out to me. We kind of connect.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So she thought that my biological father's brother was her dad,
but it actually ended up being my biological father wow.
And he got her mother pregnant when they were in
high school, and her mother, I believe, made her give
the child up for adoption. So they gave my sister
up for adoption. So she found this family. She lived
(16:48):
with this family who you know, raised her and loved her.
But then she went on a search to try and
find her biological family. So anyway, once she found me,
everything started to unravel. And so she ended up reaching
out to my biological father's mom, my grandmother, and was like, yeah,
it's like that's your dad, and so we ended up finally,
so she's been really close to my mom and my
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brother for about seven years. I actually didn't meet her
right away just because I live in Arizona and I
never got a chance.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
But we went out to dinner.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And I was just like, you are one hundred.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Percent my sister, like you ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
It was just like it was crazy. It was just crazy,
like we don't look one hundred percent alike, but our personalities,
like she, myself and my brother share this one type
of thing that we do with our personalities. And it
was just really cool to see. And she's so sweet.
She messaged me if I don't mess her for like
a couple of weeks. She always messages me like hey brother,
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because she actually didn't grow up, she didn't know our family,
so she's just good at like staying connected.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's really really sweet.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You got a lot going on, Sean tis going behind
the six pack.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's a lot going on. You know. Robin Robbers wrote
a book that said everybody's got something, you know what
I mean. So when you look at someone, you can
judge anyone on the surface. They can look at you,
they're like, oh she pretty. You know she's successful. You know,
they can think you somehow somebody gave you a lot
of money and that's how you got your successful exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I would love that anybody listening, I'm fine, I don't
do not mind.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So if you want to be my sugar daddy, honey, nah,
but cer anyway, you know, you can look at anybody.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Michelle is nothing but what people want you to see.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
No, And I think that's great because you've always been
so open with everything that's happening in your journey. That's
probably part of the reason why people feel connected to you.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Well, you know, when I teach group exercise, no one
really understands this. When I'm saying I know you can
do it, it's coming from a deeper place than I
know your muscles can push you up.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
I know you've worked this hard.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I know you can do way more than what you're
doing now, not just inside the workout, but outside the workout.
So anyone out there that's about to work out, if
you ever want to do one of my fitness programs.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Just know it's hard.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I do not it's hard, But I actually don't care
if you can do the push up. I just want
you to take that into the motivation that's making you
do the push up to help you achieve things outside
of the workout in your.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Life and listen for you. You even said that some
of the workouts that you have is hard for you
to do.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Listen, I ain't got time listen.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'll be the first one to tell you I don't
have time for insanity anymore. You're not like gonna make
me do a power jump. I mean, I'll do it
if somebody paid me for real, for real, But you
know it's hard. I'm not everyone says, you know, it's
like when you see a person who's fit or they
do have a six pack. I don't know if you
ever heard or have you ever said to somebody like, oh,
you can eat anything you want. No, Like, the only
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reason why I look like this is because I had
to have a tremendous amount of will power and commitment
status in my own brain to stick to the plan.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You know, people say that as far as getting into shape,
it's seventy percent diet, thirty percent workout.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
What do you think is the balance.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
I mean it's one hundred percent mental. That's why I
have a tattoo on my arm.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
It says, conquer your mind, transform your life, because without
the mental fortitude to push forward, you're not staying committed.
Like if your body can do it, if you have
a healthy enough body to do it, your mind is
telling you I'm going to keep doing it. Somebody can
work out for a year straight and their mind can flip,
or they can have one bad day, or someone can
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pass away in their lives or they can get broken
up with and it'll all go to shit. If your
mind is saying like no, like you gotta fight, like
I gotta keep going forward.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
As we are watching people transform their bodies with ozembic
and all these other regovi and all these other medications,
and then I'm hearing like clearly was these are medications
that have been around. People have been using them doctors
for diabetes and for other things. But now people are
using it because they want to lose weight. And I
understand that sometimes obesity can lead to other diseases.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I think you know that notion about like, don't just
take this as a quick fix, but it is important
sometimes to get medication because you don't want to get
these diseases. It can't be preventative. But what are your
thoughts about that? Because I know you have to use
those pretty much forever, right, is what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
For them to continue to work, kind of like Rogain
for your.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Hair, Come on Rogain, or you can get the new
hair transplants. They work.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They actually are really good.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But that's another rich will.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I will get back to your question. But in insanity
and in my early days of fitness. I was bald,
and I was bald by choice because when I was
in college, I couldn't afford twenty dollars a week for
a haircut, so I would just start shaving my head.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Choice.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Baby, So right, So I when I started growing my
hair out in til twenty five, they were like, oh, like,
is that a wig? Is that that? I'm like, no
offensive people who do, because I'm like, go for it, like,
live your best life.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But no, bitch, is money money new right?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know what I mean? But my money didn't buy
my hair. But anyway, back to ozepic, semi glue, tide
and all the other fun stuff that people are using.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
So here's my take on that. I equate that to somebody.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Who's getting breast in plants, who's getting a Brazilian butt lit,
who's getting a mommy tummy tuck. Like, these people are
doing this for whatever reason they need to do it.
Is it confidence?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Most of the time? It's confidence? Most of the time,
it's something they don't like about themselves, So it's helping
them actually live a better quality of life by thinking
of themselves as a better person. This just now happens
to be a medication. The only thing that it gets
hairy is that it is very true. These drugs make
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you less hungry, explos your digestive down, digestive system down,
and you know it does help you burn the fat
basically because you know that's why people with diabetes takes it.
The thing is there's no support people are getting. It's like, here,
take this and it's a cosmetic drug. But unlike when
someone gets gastric bypassed and they have to go through
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six eight weeks of mental evaluation and mental health support
and going to a counselor teaching them how to get better.
This is how your life is going to change because
you've ever been thin before. They're just giving them the
drug with no support behind it, and I just think
that that's the one thing that's missing. If someone chooses
to take this drug and the FDA says it's fine
(23:10):
to take for the rest of their life, cool, but
are you actually going to change the action that got
you to the place where you were unhealthy?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Or are you taking it because you have.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Worked so hard and you you were never able to
lose weight and you were eating as best you can.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So there's so many different variables for me to.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Be like, oh my gosh, like that's so dumb, Like
I can't believe people can do that.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I'm like, look, it's your body, you know. I can
easy say like.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You shouldn't do that, like you should work hard like.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And I think it's hard when people do say oh,
just work out and eat better, because that's if it
was that easy, we would all do it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It is not that easy, and no one. I think
the thing that we all fall down.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Sometimes you gotta go down to go up.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I think what's really really annoying about that entire process
is that every person that's listening and every person in here,
we've all judged somebody on something.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
But perfection is temporary. Change is constant.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
So we have to stop focusing on judging people and
be like, how am I going to actually change myself to.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Be a better person.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
You know, if they're grown, if they're above over eighteen,
they have to decide what it is that they want
to do for themselves. I just wish that something like
ozempics and we glue tye, these peptides that are helping
people lose weight. I wish more support, yeah, just you know,
either weekly or monthly support to be like, how are
you doing?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Did you change your diet? But oftentimes doctors, no shaded doctor,
A lot of doctors.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Want to give you medicine before they want to give
you the guidance on how to change and how to
eat and how to exercise. So I just think that
there's needs to be a bigger conversation around it because
there's some people who are taking it that they probably
see that they don't need to take it, and they
would be much more mentally healthy and more confident by
doing it themselves.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Now, let me ask this about yourself personally, since we've
been doing this this whole time, but you've also been
doing a different fitness journey now, right, you've been doing
the these fitness competitions, yes, and so your body has changed.
How is that for you mentally? Because I know sometimes
we're so used to seeing ourselves a certain way that
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now you're bigger as far as you know, bulking up,
How is that for you?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yo?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
So it's I'm gonna be super honest.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
So when I first started the journey, I had shoulder surgery,
so everything changed, like I couldn't do my hit training
or insanity, didn't want to do it anyway, you know,
Burbie suck.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But anyway, so.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I started to know. So I started lifting weights and
I got this amazing trainer name is Kristin and she
just like Kristin Bennett, and she just whooped my ass
in a jim.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And throughout that process, I loved it.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I remember getting the two hundred and twenty pounds and
looking different, and each time I would weigh myself and
I would staying two hundred and twenty pounds. My body
was changing. But simultaneously as that was happening, you know,
I'm a forty plus year old man, and I realized,
like one day, me and my husband were having an
intimate moment.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
And so afterwards, I was like, yo, he ain't as
strong as he was before.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I'm like something, something's happening up, you know what I mean.
I'm like, I'm like down there is not feeling the same.
So I went to the doctor and I was just like,
you know, what can I do about this? I mean,
I wasn't like I could still perform, but it just wasn't.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
It wasn't wasn't it wasn't all the way.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
It wasn't wasn't exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
So then he was like, you know, we have you know,
testosterone support for men, and so I actually got my
first like testosterone actually got pills the first time, like
pellets that they release every now and then. Anyway, I
switched to like getting testosterone shots and it changed everything.
I became like happier, more energy. I even slept better,
(26:39):
and uh my husband realized that I got stronger, if
you know what I mean, quote unquote. So it just
made me. It just made me become so much more
confident that I just told my my trainer. I was like,
I think I want to compete, and she was like,
are you sure? And she actually said to me, she
was like, I'm worried more about the mental effect that
it's going to have on you rather than the physical effect.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
She was like, cause you're gonna feel strong, you' gonna
look good.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
And I was like why and she's like, because on
show day you're not gonna look how you really look,
because on show day you're basically taking your body and
trying to emphasize your kinesiology, right, You're trying to like
your muscular skeletal system. You're like, how rip can I be?
How symmetrical can I be? And she was like on
(27:23):
that day, do not get attached to that face. And
it's so interesting. I remember like looking at pictures like
a couple of days later, and I was just like, oh,
I'm like, I look so good that day for the show,
but I'm like, that is not the face.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
But here's the thing that's like really tough.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So then I had to go into a place where
the judges were like, I got I won, you know,
five first place metals and I made it to Nationals. Okay,
so I'm going to right your little flex there. So
I'm going to Nationals in July. And so my coach
was like, now you have to bulk up, and they
were like he and my coach, he and my trainer,
Justin and Christen were like, he said, you got to
(27:59):
get to two thirty five and she's like, you have
to get the two hundred and forty pounds now. Mind you,
why did I start this journey in the first ways
Because I was two hundred and twenty eight pounds and
I hated the way that I look. So there was
a total mental fuck that was happening as I was
gaining weight. And the one thing that I absolutely hated
about myself when I saw myself in the mirror that
day is like my full face, right, and I like
(28:21):
still struggle with that today. Like my husband's like, oh
my god, you're absolutely beautiful. And anytime somebody hits on
me in the gym, thank you very much. When you
hit on me at thirty five, I appreciate it. You
have no idea, so just keep on hitting on me.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But so that's the only thing that's like really tough.
And I love my body.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I love the thickness, you know what I mean. Thicker
than a snicker is a real thing. And you don't
have to eat snickers, but you can. I'm a snicker,
but you know. So I love the body. I loved
the building of mysel I can feel it. But I
still kind of have a problem with the full face
thing that I'm working through it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
And oh, my weight goes to my face whenever I
gained like three pounds. My face is like the first
thing I feel like you could always tell looking at
my face right before I get my period.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
My face is like yeah, I see it.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yeah it's annoying because then I annoying. I hate certain
like angles.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
But no one else thinks that way about us.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now, I hear it.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Now we're on the same page. You're on the same page.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Like I look at somebody like even when I see
guys who I think are hot that were in, you know,
a show, and I see them in their bulky face,
I'm like, damn it even hot or bigger. Like when
somebody says that to me, I'm like, it doesn't apply
to me. You know what. I'm saying something with you.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I saw that you also, because since you're so open,
I saw you on I guess it's called X now
saying that you feel you have sex like three to
four times a week.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Absolutely, Okay, Oh follow me on X follow me.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, we've seen some X on x X.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
I actually just showed I actually just showed two in
the thirty five pounds of feet back here because I'm
like listening to the Yeah I don't know X. But yes,
me and my husband have been together thirteen years. And
let me tell you something. So the V too, Yes,
the V is there. I don't go too low, not there,
but Angela, you are taking me. You're taking me all
(30:06):
the way there and I'm here for it. Yeah, you know,
I think. So here's one thing. So I almost partner
with this cockering company, and when we were going through
the process of partnering with him, you I found a lot.
I found out a lot and learned a lot about
you know, male health down there. And one of the
main reasons people get testicular cancer and things like that
(30:29):
is because they don't use it. And the one reason
why people really get you know, limp down there is
because you know, you have to use it.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
If you don't lose it, use it.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You lose. So you got and my husband, first of all.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
My husbands, he's fifty two. He doesn't look at you
can follow him on X to Scott Blocker and I'm
forty five and I'm like, bro, like you're outperforming me.
Like I gotta pull up, you know what I say.
The testosterone help soon. But yeah, we have a lot
of fun after Still.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So what happened with the Cochrane company.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
They didn't want to pay me enough money.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Okay, if I'm showing my cock your.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Own, it's going to be some money behind it.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Do you hear you should develop your own I think
so too.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Actually, one of the woman who.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
In that case, you know, I've had a.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Request to get for me and my husband to gets.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I mean, there's a real.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Demand for that, I know, but I'm like, that's a
one time purchase. I got to figure out how to
make passive income from it. Now.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Some people use them enough and they got to get
a new one if it gets worn out. Moving on, listen,
we got to talk about dig Deeper, because that is your.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
This whole time, you know, speaking of dil dos.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Okay, let's get back on the fitness train.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Back to that.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So let's talk about dig Deeper and why you just
decided to develop this new program for people.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
It actually goes back to what I was saying about
my shoulder surgery. I just realized that as I've gotten older,
train in the way that I was training before. While
I felt really great in cardiovascular health, there's nothing better
than putting on muscle. The energy and where people have
to understand, especially women, because y'all say, oh, you're not
gonna get bulky.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I'm like, no, you're not gonna get bulky. It's not possible.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
However, you turn your body into a fat burning machine
the more muscle you have. But to make that more
like in Layman's terms, you will increase your metabolism. The
more muscle you have and so you know, a large,
a large part of my audience for home fitness is women.
It's way above eighty percent. But at the same time,
(32:37):
women carry more fat than men. Naturally. You have boobs,
your hips, you have your cycle, you know these, all
of these things going to play and so what I'm
trying to do. Obviously, guys they follow it, they get it,
you know whatever. But I want women to understand, like,
building muscle is not a bad thing. It is literally
your best friend.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And now I agree it helps your metabolism. That's why
my trainer to always tell me you have to do
strength training because I love doing cardio, I will run,
I will do all of that, but strength training is
so hard for me. But it definitely does. And I
think with your pasture it helps so much. As we're
getting older and we're all like looking down like this,
even being able to work these muscles in your back,
(33:16):
that's what's going to really help you with any type
of pain that you have there too. And I notice
when I do follow a regiment, it does help.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yes, so perfect, I love it. You just gave a
plug for dig Deeper. And what I do is I
teach people. It's designed in three different phases or collections,
if you will. And the first one is like these
giant circuits that just get your muscles sore, get the
moving I'm teaching how to activate. Then it goes into
like super set and time under tention, where you gain
more control of your muscles.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
You really start to build. And then it goes to.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
The build phase where that's where a lot of people
find it difficult, but it's more fun because the weight
is a little bit heavier, and that's where a lot
of women get afraid.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
They're like, oh, that wasths too heavy.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I'm gonna you know.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I'm like, that's me, this is it, but this is
a good day.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
But remember the first you were I don't know about you,
but like for people out there, the first time you're
able to do a push up, and how powerful that felt, right,
you know?
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean, that's just like the consistency that's building your strength.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Even a plank for me, if I remember when I
was doing yoga all the time, and then I was
able to plank for sixty seconds. At first, because I
couldn't do it, my whole body would be shaking. And
then after I kept going and kept going and I
was able to do that for sixty seconds.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
It was amazing. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah it's yeahs just over time.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
So dig deeper is all strengths.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'm doing this.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I don't you need a bench in dumbbells. You can
do it at the gym if you want. You know,
you can stream it and I take you through. And
I'm telling you the results that people are having just
after thirty days, not necessarily not weight loss, like body recomposition,
just seeing their body change because I always say, like
a pound of fat is this big and circumference a
pound of muscle is there?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Okay, so people are so focused on weight loss.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
I'm like, focused on fat loss and your body's going
to get smaller and stronger rather than focusing on losing weight,
and you're losing muscle too. That's why just doing cardio,
unless you really like it or you're a marathon runner
or something like that, is not really the thing that's
going to give you the max benefit, especially if you're
just a quote unquote regular person that's like, yo, you know,
(35:12):
I'm a mom, I got to go to pick up
my kids, Like what.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Can I do to keep myself strong?
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Fine? Forty five minutes a day lift and do some
cardio after and the combination will be great.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
All right, well good, Well, I'm definitely going to dig deeper.
I cannot wait to do this work out because I
am trying to be better and making sure that I
do some strength training because I know it's important for me. Yes,
and you know I always talk about nutrition with my
juice bar about to reopen and all of those things.
So incorporating all of this together, I think is the
most important thing. And I want to make sure it's
twenty twenty four. You know, we got to lead by example,
(35:45):
and it's January. I see a lot the gingin a lot.
Let's crowd it already, you know. But anything that you
can do at home is a win to me.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, it's easy, it's accessible, and zero boundaries of barriers
for you to actually get to the gym because you
can do it at home.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Because sometimes people.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like people are watching you when you haven't been working out.
You're like, I want to go to the gym and
people laughing at me.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I want to make a point to nutrition because I
didn't develop a nutrition program with this, even though I
wanted to. But nutrition is majorly important for any kind
of body recomposition or body change, weight gain, weight loss,
weight maintenance. You just have to like roll a thumb,
get in the protein. Get the protein, and don't be
(36:28):
afraid of carbs. If that's the two things I can take.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
So people, you know you got to do carbs tonight.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Why like if you actually do strain training tomorrow, you're
gonna burn. Like that's what's burning when you're lifting the carbs.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And good there's good sugar too. I always tell people
that too, like.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Good sugar fruit.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Hey, yeah, fruits.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know my favorite thing in the morning.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
With my oat meal.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Okay, see there you have it.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Well, I have a trick. I have a quick hack
okay with blueberries. So have you ever been to the
carnival and you got like a candy apple?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I love candy.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
So get some blueberries, a bowl of blueberries if you
want to snack, and then you get some honey and
you just kind of drizzle it over frozen blueberries. Okay,
let us sit there for like sixty seconds, and when
you eat the blueberries, it tastes like candied apples, like
candy blueberries because the honey gets hard and it's so good.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
You won't even crave ice cream.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
All right, well, look, I feel like you need to
put this nutrition program.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Together to trust and believe.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
All right, we'll be looking for it and trust and believe.
Also the podcast, you guys make sure.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah, but my podcast name is changing to Tears for Transformation,
and it's I'm reshooting it and relaunching it in just
about a few months.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
See look at us. We covered all types of things.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Well, I'm glad we were able to dig deeper today
with you also, by the way, and definitely you got
to come back when I start doing the workout too,
I'll let you know so we can see what my
transformation is looking like. All right, well, thank you so much,
you guys. And how can people follow you and find you?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah, so you can follow me.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
If you want to follow me on for fitness, you
can follow me on Instant Graham and Facebook s h
A U n T. If you want to follow me
for fun, you can follow me on TikTok. If you
want to follow me for ratchetness, follow me on x
all of this at shawnte And if you.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Want, yes, she follows me in a real place.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
You get the fitness, the fun and the ratchetness and
a few cheeks here and there. But if you want
to get dig deeper, go to dig deeper nation dot com.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
All right, well, thank you so much. It was really
a pleasure. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
It was my pleasure to thank you.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
It's way up
Speaker 3 (38:29):
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