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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are now Angelo, what I call Yee?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
What's up? It's way up with Angela Yee.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Angela Yee. And it is a Friday. You know
we love Fridays. So yeah, the weekend is on the way.
This weekend, I'm headed out to Memphis, but we'll talk
about that later. In the meantime, we do have a
special guest joining us today, Lionel TJ.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Tillman.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Now, my good friend DJ Nori was like, Yo, you
gotta have my boy tj On. And he has a
book How I Stop child support legally. When you hear
his story is absolutely ridiculously crazy. All right, So he'll
be joining us today. In the meantime, let's spread some
love and positivity. Let's shine a light on people doing
amazing things. I'll tell you who I want to show
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some love to, but I definitely want to know who
you want to show some love to.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
The number is one eight hundred two nine two fifty.
I'm fifty.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Call us up.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Let us know who you want to shine a light on.
It's way up, so we gonna up.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I'm shine, I'm shin turn your lights on, y'all, light
saw and spreading love to those who are doing greatness.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Hina light on, shine a light on.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's time to shine a light on what's up his
way up at Angela Yee.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I'm Angela Yee, and it's time to shine a light,
spread some love and spread some positivity. And today I
want to shine a light on chef J. J.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Johnson. Now he's been on the show before.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
He's also James Beard Foundation Award winner, and he has
a book out right now. It's all about rice. Rice
is Culture, the simple art of Rice. It's also a
best of cookbook.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
For twenty twenty three from the New York Times. But
what I want to shine a light on is the
fact that he is doing the Miami Wine and Food
Festival and I'll be out there actually co hosting with
him for the cookout part of it. And I'm just
excited that he wanted to include me.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, I did the one that was in New
York City, that One and Food Festival, and so now
he's including me in the one in Miami, and it's
just really an honor for me to be able to
be in a space like that. I do have a
coffee company, Coffee Uplift People, So when people look out
for me and refer me for different things. It does
mean a lot. And he has his restaurant also, Field Trip.
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It's a multi unit, fast casual rice bulk concept and
it's all about sustainability. So, you know, we'd love to
see people doing positive things. Now, who do you guys
want to shine a light on? Eight hundred two N
fifty is a number, pinky, Who do you want to
shine a light on?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I don't like to stan a light on. My man,
my man, my man.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Okay, tell us what.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
She just started on his podcast and interviews on things
like that. So, and he owns the barbershop as well.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Where's this at?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
His barbershop is going to Detroit on say Street?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Okay, well, what's the name of his podcast?
Speaker 6 (02:54):
So we know Live from the Zoo were next tonight?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, Live from the Zoo?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Righty?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I like that and you support that.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That's amazing, you know sometimes things like that is what
we need to keep us going.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yes, sure, all right, well shout out to you.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
What part did you trade you from the what I thought?
All right? We like that? All right, Well, thank you
for calling.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
All right, thank you have free thank you too.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
All right, Well that was shina light and in case
you couldn't get through, you can always leave a message
at eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty and
we will play it for last word. When we come back,
we have your yet and we'll talk about Vince McMahon.
He is being sued by an ex WWE employee.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Will tell you why it's way up.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It says in the rooms.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
From industry shade to all the gossips out, send Angela's
speeling that EyeT, what's up?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is way up with Angela yee. I'm Angela yee, and
it is time for your ee t oh. This is horrifying.
A former WWE employee is suing Vince McMahon now. According
to her lawsuit, she claims that he repeatedly sexually assaulted her,
sex trafficked her, and then paid her off to stay quiet.
These allegations were made by Janelle Grant. This lawsuit was
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filed yesterday in Connecticut.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
She said she met him back in twenty nineteen. She
was at rock bottom. Her parents had just died. She
was trying to find work, but she was introduced to
him through a mutual friend and he promised to get
her a job at WWE allegedly now he slowly began
to use his life changing promises to coerce her into
sexual acts. According to her lawsuit, she had a legal
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administrative coordinated a job with a salary of seventy five
thousand dollars and it required very little work. She was
also assigned an additional role to help fill her time.
According to reports, she says in May twenty twenty, he
organized a threesome with her and her physical therapist, saying
that he would lose a friendship if she did not
go through with it. She says in the days following,
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she alleges that he texted her, I'm the only one
who owns you and controls who I want.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
To f you.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
According to her reports, several months later, he recruited John
Lara Natius, who was a former WWE superstar who was
also a high ranking exec in the company at the time,
to join them. There's a lot of things that happened
after that, but she says that there were certain arrangements
where she had to serve herself to him as breakfast
at a nearby hotel before the start of their workday.
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There's a lot to this, and it's very explicit, but
According to these reports, she is traumatized from the whole
ordeal and now wants unspecified damages as well as for
a judge to invalidate her NDA. So feels like that
NDA is not standing right now anyway. As far as
Vince McMahon and the WWE, they have not yet publicly
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commented on this lawsuit. All right, that is your et
I'm Angela Yee. And when we come back, we have
about last night. That's where we discussed what went down
last night? What did we do last night?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And I've been out and about and there's not a
lot of restaurants I haven't been to, but last night
I did go to one It's way up last night?
So about last night?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Last night?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Last night these I went down.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Its way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and
it's time for about last night.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I just want to tell you guys, I've been to
a lot of restaurants, but last night I went to
a restaurant that I've never been to before. And Dan,
who was my producer, the one thing that excites him
is Food's right, Dan, what would you say are the
things that excites you them?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's food, what else?
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Sports?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Sports?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I would say Travis Scott, Traviscott excites you, all right. Well,
last night I went to a restaurant called Cassa Tipriani's.
These restaurants, there's a lot of new members only locations
of different types of restaurants. I feel like it's more
than ever. There's all these members only places. It used
to be like Soho House. You know they have the
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gathering spot in Atlanta, they have zz Club. Well, Kassa
Tipriani is another place that is I think pretty hard
to get into. But I had a meeting. So that's
the only reason that I made it into it is yes,
and you know what, they made the meeting like yesterday,
so you know the people that had to meet, Yeah,
definitely knew somebody. So that was a really amazing experience
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to be someplace like that. Imagine paying fifty thousand dollars
for a membership to be able to go into a restaurant.
It doesn't cover like anything. You still got to pay
for your food. The food is still expensive, paying for
the exclusivity, paying for the exclusivity. And to be honest,
like I have a membership to Soho House, I did
that because my good friend Ingrid, who owns Ibst Wines,
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talk me into it. She was like, Angela, you need
to do this. You know, you have a lot of
meetings things going on. You need a place to be
able to go to. And this is nowhere near as
expensive as some of these other places. But I'm reevaluating.
Let's just say that. But anyway, that's what I did
last night. And when we come back, you tell us
what you did. Maybe not yesterday, but maybe it was
last summer, maybe it was twenty years ago. We want
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to hear your secrets. Eight hundred two ninety two fifty
one fifty. Remember it is absolutely no judgment, all right,
it's way up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Tell us a secret when we come back. This is
a judgment free zone. Tell us a secret. What's up?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Its way up with Angela. Ye, I'm Angela yee, and
you know what time it is. It's time for you
to tell us a secret. Eight hundred two nine two
fifty one fifty is a number. Any secret that you have,
We're gonna keep your secret between us and the millions
of people listening.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
All right, anonymous caller, tell us a secret.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
So my ESS's father in law is trying to sleep
with me.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, what does he do? Is he like telling you?
Texting you? What's So?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I woke up with my egg a couple of years
ago and I get a random call and he just
he's like hey, and I'm like, oh, how are you?
And he's just like, I'm trying to check on making
sure you're okay and knowhing's in your dad with you know,
with your ex and I you know, we had a
good relationship. So I told him everything and told him
(09:02):
I was doing well, and then he was like, okay,
well you should let me come over so we can
catch up some more. What And then after that it
was just he started giving me money.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Randomly skipped the part where you let him come over.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Oh okay, So I let him come over and we
did just talk. Nothing sexual. Wasn't because he's a lot
older than me. I'm only in my twenties and he's like,
you know, like fifty something, and I don't got confident.
I think after maybe like the fourth time of him
coming over and that's just having a good conversation. He
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told me he was like, I'm gonna be very honest
with you. I would like to have sex with you.
I politely told him, I'm not comfortable. It's really because
of who you are in the connection we have. You know,
it wouldn't be right. I'm actually friends with his daughter,
so it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Did you in your ex on good terms?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Oh no, it was terrible terms, like we had to
go to court and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh damn, So this also might feel good, like ha ha,
look what I just you could be his mom, Like
can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
You could be his stepmom be so much drama and
I can't.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I mean, I like the guy anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So you think you'll ever tell him I write enough
or you just want to keep on getting stuff from him.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
I told him a while ago. I told him that
I wasn't comfortable, and then he slowly just started back
in a way because he could tell that I was uncomfortable.
So we don't We don't even have communication anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, so this was in the past, but thank you
for sharing with us, Thank you for listening. All right.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I was going to ask you to get me something,
but since you don't talk to him no more. All right,
Hey anonymous Cala, how.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Are you yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
How good? Thank you? You want to tell us a secret.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Years ago judge A judge, Yeah, a.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Jug But okay, so why is that a.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Secret because the judge?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Why is my brother the judges?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Oh so the judge's wife is your mother's friend.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So nobody knows about this.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Nobody knows you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And you only did it one time? Or was it
an ongoing thing?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Only one thing?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And how long did that last? And why did you stop?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
It lasted for a couple of months and it stopped
because it just wasn't like anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh yeah, you felt guilty every time you saw his wife. Yeah,
all right, well you know your honor.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Thank you, Thank you so much for calling us and
sharing your secret with us, no judgment.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Thank you, bye bye. All right, Well that was tell.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Us a secret eight hundred and two nine two fifty
one fifty In case you couldn't get through, but you
still want to share, We would love to hear from you.
And when we come back, we have your yee tea,
and let's talk about Tayless Swift and these graphic sexual photos.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I can't believe Tailesswift will do this or wit she.
We'll discuss it in yeat when we come back. It's
way up.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Don't she about to blow the lead ab off this?
Speaker 7 (12:11):
But let's get it.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Oh angelus feeling that yeete, come and get the tea?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What's up? His way up?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But Angela yee, I'm Angela yee, and it is time
for your yeat. Now let's talk about Terryless Swift. According
to reports, she is furious and you know why. There
are some pictures that are circulating on social media of
Tayless Swift.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But it's not really Tailless Swift.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's what we call a deep fake, and I mean
deep and we're talking about AI generated images that are abusive, offensive, exploitative,
and done without tailors Swift's consent and or knowledge. Now,
according to reports, the Twitter account that posted them does
not exist anymore. But it's shocking that they would even
be able to have this up anyway. So she's allegedly
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going to be taking legal action, That's what she's considering doing,
because using AI generated pornography as someone is awful and inexcusable.
Protect till the Swift was actually trending because of these pictures.
Imagine how you would feel if somebody did that to you.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Dan Me, I don't think anyone's checking for me like that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But still, how.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
About you, how would you react if that happened to you?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know what I think if people knew it was fake,
I mean, what can I I'm not technology. I know
I'm not tell as Swift though, but you know, you're
right technology. Some people will never realize that it wasn't real,
like some people will see it and forever run with
it and think that it is true.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But the Swifties are trying to make sure that they
take down all accounts that post it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And you know the Swifties are strong.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
All right, Well, we'll see what Tell the Swift has
to say about it, if she says.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Anything at all.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But that was your ut. When we come back, we
have under the radar. These are the stories that are
not necessarily in the headlines. They are flying under the radar.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
In the news that relates to you. These stories are
flying under the radar.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What's up this way?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You put Angela Yee, I'm Angela Yee, and it's time
for your under the radar stories. These are the stories
that are not necessarily in the headlines. They are flying
under the radar. Now this one is especially important. To
me as a woman and as somebody who knows that
elections are happening.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
This year, nearly.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Sixty five thousand rape related pregnancies likely occurred in the
fourteen US states who have a near total abortion ban
after the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Row versus Wade.
All right, so, yet just ten legal abortions are performed
monthly on average in these states, according to researchers that
they found in a new analysis. So it makes it
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impossible for most victims of rape to obtain abortions in
their home states, even for the minority of people who
live in states with exemptions for rape, according to researchers.
And so that number is just absolutely ridiculous, and I
think it's just really important. Even for women who are
having health issues or could potentially die, they now have
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to leave their state to have to deal with that
and not have control over their own body. So just
wanted to point that out to you guys. Imagine that
nearly fifth, nearly sixty five thousand US rate victims could
not get an abortion in their state. All right, Well,
that is you're under the radar, and when we come back,
we have your way up mix at the top of
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the hour. Plus, we have a special guest joining us,
Lionel TJ.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Tillman.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
He has a really crazy story about child support and
he has a book called How I Stop Child Support Legally.
When you hear his story, you won't believe what happened
to him. And I just want to make sure y'all
know he's not saying that we shouldn't have child support,
but there are certain things that should not be legal.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
All right.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's way up, just like the child like they a
Jeal Jean like they Angel Jean Man.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
She's spilling it all.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
This is yeaty what's up?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
His way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee. And
it's time for your yet now. I Spice has teased
her new Super Bowl ad. She's actually doing a ad
with Pepsi, and she is revealing her ex boyfriend maybe
in this ad.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Listen to this baby, you look so pretty when you gross.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Stop much good mord, Just one gra girl? What's up?
Don't look?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Why I said don't look?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It's my eggs?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
All right.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
She's very secretive about who she has dated and who
she might be dating now. Also, Kevin Hart has lost
his bid to get the defamatory Tasha k video removed
with his ex assistant. According to reports, the judge ruled
yesterday it's just a really vague, overbroad request that doesn't
address actual malice, and so now temporarily they have denied
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that request. According to Kevin Hart, he alleges that he
is the victim of a shakedown and he claims that
he was told when you don't pay, we have to
get money by any means necessary. As we all know,
Tasha Ka has had other defamation allegations.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
One that she's lost.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
That's a four million dollar defamation verdict that's against her
from Cardi B. But we'll keep you updated on what's
happening with this Kevin Hart situation. Angela ye, and that
is your yut when we come back into Friday. So
we got some new music for you. It's way up,
go right.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Everybody since whether it's relationship or career advice, Angela's dropping facts.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You should know. This is ask ee what's up? As
way up? But Angela yee. I'm Angela Yee and it
is a Thursday, and you know what we do every
single day.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
We try to help you out. If there's any questions
that you have. Eight hundred two nine fifty one fifty.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Is the number. It's time for ask ee. Hello Alexa, Hi,
how are you? I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I'm good? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And what is your question today for ask ee?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
So my question for ask is I've been with my
man for eight years. We have two sons together, and
I just don't know why he hasn't talked a rushing yet.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
What does he say when you ask him?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
So, he kind of just says he wants to do it,
but it's kind of like I have to bring it
up to him for us to discuss it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
So he's not against it, he's saying he is planning
to do it.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
He's just kind of like, okay with how everything is
right now, So it seems like he's if you're not
going to say anything, he's not going to say anything.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Right And I'm just like, I don't know if I'm
messed up because I let him move in with me.
So I'm like, does he just feel so comfortable that
he doesn't have to do it now?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And does he is he aware of how important it
is to you?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Or do you feel like you don't want to nag
him about it and you just try to bring it
up to test it.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Oh, he's over.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I don't add to him more than enough. I feel
like it's to the point where I'm actually pushing him away.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, you know this is a deal breaker for you,
is what it seems like. And what I think you
have to do is be serious about it, because sometimes
people don't act because they know you're still going to
be there. So maybe there is a timeline. Look to
be completely honest, and you should have this at a
time when y'all are not arguing, have a conversation, you know,
when nobody's emotions are high, because it is going to
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end up being an emotional topic. But let him know
this is something that is extremely important to me. This
is potentially a deal breaker. You are the person that
I want to marry, and if this can't happen, then
I don't know if we can continue this relationship. And
so I will give you six months to figure out
what it is that you want to do. And in
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that period of time, you know you can weigh out
the pros and cons and if in six months you
can't figure it out, then maybe we should not live
together anymore and figure out what we're going to do
with the future because we're not aligned, because it's not
fair to you. If it's something that he really doesn't
want and it's something that you do want, then ultimately,
at some point.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Somebody's not going to be happy.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Sometimes people don't see how serious it is, like they say,
you don't know what you got Ti Li's gone right.
Maybe he needs a wake up call of not being
there with you and realizing this is the p Then
he'll be like, you know what, I can't live without you.
I want to be with you forever. This is important
to you, and I realize now bang bang bang. If not,
the worst case scenario is you'll breakup and go your
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separate ways and it just wasn't meant to be. But
you know, I don't want you to not get what
you want out of this relationship.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's not fair. You shouldn't have to compromise on something
so important to you.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Very thank you so much. I appreciate the advice, all.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Right, Alexi, And look, it puts the ball in his court.
This is what I want.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
If it's not what you want, then yeah, yeah, I
felt like you halfway out, okay.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Ye, like I am like I'm just like I don't
know what to do anymore. So, but thank you for
the you know, the input I needed to hear that
you are the prime.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You are the prize. Okay, yes, all right, thank.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
You, Okay, thanks you too.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
All right, well that was ask ye. Thank you guys
so much for calling. Eight hundred two nine fifty fifty
is a number in case.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You couldn't get through. And when we come back, we
have a really crazy story from Lionel TJ. Tillman.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
He has a book, How I Stapped Child Support Legally,
and he has a case that's been going on for
over twenty years. And wait till he tells you what
it is that he had to go through. It all
has to deal with child support. It's way up.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Were about to do this?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, more, way up with Angela ye on?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Now is.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It's way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee And
we have a special guest today, Lionel TJ. Tillman, author
of How I Stopped Child Support Legally. First of all,
let's talk about you and what made you decide to
write this book.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Unfortunately, I was put in a situation where I had
to represent myself in a two year hearing against child
support in the County of Los Angeles and ultimately got
my case dismissed for extrinsic fraud after twenty two years.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So what happened?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
They started a child support case against me and I
found out about it seven years after it opened. So
when I found out about the case, I was already
twenty four thousand dollars in arrears because it had accumulated,
and they add up compounded interests on top of the money.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
So I contact them and say, hey, what's going on.
They say, well, you know, you had six months to
respond according to Family Code such and such, and it's
been seven years. I'm like seven years. What do you
mean it's been seven years. They say, well, yeah, it's
been seven years, so there's nothing that you can do.
You may want to contact the court and contact them.
I contacted the court. They said, yeah, it's been the
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time it passed. Your response is untimely. And that went
on for another thirteen years.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So was this a situation where they were supposed to
at least serve you. Yes, so you knew that you
had a court date. So what happened when they tried
to serve you.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
They allegedly said that they served me at which I
later proved was a vacant house. Oh wow, so they
forged the signature of someone named Michael Tillman. My name
is Lonnelle Tillman. And what I proved in court I
subpoena the Department of Water and Power to come testify
of who lived at this place on this day. They
said they didn't have any power there. I also subpoena
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the owner of the home. You had to do this
on your own, on my own, I subpoena the owner
of the home, and she said, well, on this date,
at this time, I didn't have any tennis there, So
how could you serve somebody at this location?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Right now, I'm talking to Lionel TJ. Tillman, author of
How I Stapped Child support Legally. Let's go back to this.
So this was actually your child? No, it wasn't even
your child. Woo, all right, So the pot dickens. So
who was the person that was suing you for child support?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
The County of Los Angeles. Let's just take it back
at the time whether a child was conceived. I was
twelve years old, so once I turned eighteen they started
the case. I found out about seven years later. During
that time they was given the mother government assistance, so
cache food stamps. So this is how this money started
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to accumulate.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Did you even know the mother?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
I knew her. I never even bread her. Okay, we're
in nineteen ninety. There's no communication between families and things
of this nature. And that's the last that I heard
of it until two thousand and three when I got
a call from HR saying that they finish our GARNERSH
want checks.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, because I always hear stories about people who have
child support. They owe back child support, and then they
can do multiple things before they arrest you, because they'll
garnish your wages. They'll maybe revoke your driver's license. So
what were the things that happened to you?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
The first thing he did they suspended my license after
a time it had accumulated. They sent the forty eight
thousand dollars bank levy to my account. I didn't have
forty eight thousand dollars in there, but what was in there,
it was all I had, and they took it all.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But the woman who had the child, she did go
and say that you were the father and that's why. Yes, okay,
so that's why this happened. So there was nobody else
she was claiming, was if I the only you?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So you weren't even able to get an attorney to
represent you.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
So just so you understand, when I found out about it,
this is seven years, right, I go to the court,
the course tell me you had six months to respond.
There's nothing that we can do. This went on for
another thirteen years, so now it's twenty years.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh my gosh. So how do you think that child support?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Because it is I think across the board a lot
of people would agree that it's a very flawed system.
All right, So, having gone through what you've gone through,
what do you think is the best way for a
child support to exist? Or should it exist?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
How can that happen?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Because there is a responsibility for when paternity is established
that it shouldn't have to be just on one parent
to have to take care of that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What are your thoughts having gone through.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
This, I do believe if a person don't take care
of their offspring, then they need to be on child
support one thousand percent. The issue is Title four of
the Social Security Act. That's what needs to change because
they're still operating on procedures that were put in place
in nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, times have definitely changed.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
Times have definitely changed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
All Right. Lionel TJ.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Tillman is here and he's telling history of what he
had to go through with the system with child support.
He does want to make sure y'all take care of
your kids, but he has a different type of story.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's but yep, we have more with him when we
come back.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
This Yeah, yeah, more way up with Angela on them.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know, it is what it is. What's happens way
up with Angela?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yee.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I'm talking to Lionel TJ. Tillman, the author of
How I Stopped Child Support Legally? What happens after that
when it turns out that the way that they allegedly
served you, even though they didn't was illegal and had
you paid so?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (26:32):
So when the case got dismissed, they offered to pay
me back dollar for dollar, no interest, no nothing. I've
declined it. I took them to federal court for twenty
two years of damages and as of right now, we
have a lawsuit in federal court. They've made two settlement
offers since then, but it's just disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What happened to the woman who had accused you nothing?
Speaker 7 (26:56):
And my goal is not to tear down a black
But the thing is, anything that I say in regards
to her and her involvement in it is not gonna
be good.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So did you raise that child like it was your own?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
No, I had no relationship with her.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Right is that something that would cause you to want
to reach out and say, okay, I want to get
to have a relationship at least.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
With which I did. I called her, I said, hey,
you know, we was trying. Let's just try to figure
it out. She was like, when ain't gonna get me some?
What are you talking about? When I'm gonna give you some?
Like anything that I say about her is going right,
and that's not my goal.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know, this does, more than anything, affect the child
because this child is thinking, like, that's my dad.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
My dad wasn't here. Was he aware that you were
supposed to be?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
So when I actually spoke with him, he told me
that in the beginning, my mother told me that you
were my father. As I got older, she told me
who my actual father was. And that's where we That's
where we left for that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Do you think that there should be some accountability for
the mom legally?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Yes, if you partake and lie and assist in the fraud,
then yeah, you should be held a conon fraud.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Okay, Yeah, So now you have a lawsuit against the
state of California, is.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
That or child support enforcement and the County of Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
The County of Los Angeles, and so what is it
that you would take from them? Because this is something
that affected your life for twenty two years. For twenty
two years, that's not a small thing.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Chapter five of my book is called child support Institutionalized.
When that case got dismissed for fraud, you don't just
go back to living a happy life. It's I've been
under these conditions for twenty two years, so like it
was hard for me to even put things in my name.
It's like, I just don't know if they gonna take
it or right.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
If you think about the things you could have been
able to do with the money with the credit score,
opportunity calls, yeah, with the yeah, absolutely, yeah, So all of.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
That is included in that twenty two years of day.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Now you're not still representing yourself, are you?
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Do you? Yeah? You still I don't have the finances
to go against the County of Los Angeles in federal court.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I would feel like an attorney would think that you're
going to actually win this case, and that therefore they
would be able to.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Get compensated, you know, a percentage of what you end
up getting.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
We way up with Angelinie. Yeah, so hopefully so.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I mean that's what I'm thinking could potentially happen, because
this feels like something that also I'm sure other people
have been affected. You know, You're not the only person
something like this, of course not happen to And this
is not a way to knock people who should be
paying child support, But this is a way to say
this wasn't even your child. You were never served, you
(29:41):
didn't even live at that address, and then why should
you have to suffer from the repercussions of that.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Yeah, And I want to make it very clear, like
the when I say child support is fraud, it is
not to challenge parents' responsibility to take care of their children.
I'm challenging the child support system itself. Did you follow
your own policies?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Is there something more that you're you're trying to do?
As far as helping other people.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
And that's the whole thing. With the platform child Supporters
fraud dot com or even the ig child Supporters Fraud.
My thing is just educating parents that you do have
parental rights and you can fight to get more time
with your children.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
As you should want to. Sometimes that can be a
really difficult thing.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Take care of them kids, though, man, because this ain't
because this ain't no yet, This ain't no, This ain't
no get out of jail.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Free card, right all right? But where can people find
out more information?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
So everything can be found on child supporters fraud dot
com or Instagram's Child Supporters Fraud.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But thank you so much to lie know TJ. Tilman
for joining me.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Make sure y'all follow him, pick up his book House
Stop Child Support Legally and wats the full interview on
my YouTube channel, Way up with you when we come back,
You guys, of course, have the last word.
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What's up this Way Up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela
Yee and thank y'all so much for joining me on
a Friday. I'm headed out to Memphis right now, We're
going to the Saint Dude's Children's Hospital Foundation Benefits. There's
actually an app that you can download too if you
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I'm Angela Yee. And it is a Friday. You know
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This weekend, I'm headed out to Memphis, but we'll talk
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Tillman.
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For twenty twenty three from the New York Times. But
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You know, I did the one that was in New
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Okay, tell us what.
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Okay, well, what's the name of his podcast?
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He is being sued by an ex WWE employee.
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It says in the rooms.
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From industry shade to all the gossips out, send Angela's
speeling that EyeT, what's up?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is way up with Angela yee. I'm Angela yee, and
it is time for your ee t oh. This is horrifying.
A former WWE employee is suing Vince McMahon now. According
to her lawsuit, she claims that he repeatedly sexually assaulted her,
sex trafficked her, and then paid her off to stay quiet.
These allegations were made by Janelle Grant. This lawsuit was
(04:05):
filed yesterday in Connecticut.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
She said she met him back in twenty nineteen. She
was at rock bottom. Her parents had just died. She
was trying to find work, but she was introduced to
him through a mutual friend and he promised to get
her a job at WWE allegedly now he slowly began
to use his life changing promises to coerce her into
sexual acts. According to her lawsuit, she had a legal
(04:29):
administrative coordinated a job with a salary of seventy five
thousand dollars and it required very little work. She was
also assigned an additional role to help fill her time.
According to reports, she says in May twenty twenty, he
organized a threesome with her and her physical therapist, saying
that he would lose a friendship if she did not
go through with it. She says in the days following,
(04:50):
she alleges that he texted her, I'm the only one
who owns you and controls who I want.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
To f you.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
According to her reports, several months later, he recruited John
Lara Natius, who was a former WWE superstar who was
also a high ranking exec in the company at the time,
to join them. There's a lot of things that happened
after that, but she says that there were certain arrangements
where she had to serve herself to him as breakfast
at a nearby hotel before the start of their workday.
(05:19):
There's a lot to this, and it's very explicit, but
According to these reports, she is traumatized from the whole
ordeal and now wants unspecified damages as well as for
a judge to invalidate her NDA. So feels like that
NDA is not standing right now anyway. As far as
Vince McMahon and the WWE, they have not yet publicly
(05:41):
commented on this lawsuit. All right, that is your et
I'm Angela Yee. And when we come back, we have
about last night. That's where we discussed what went down
last night? What did we do last night?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
And I've been out and about and there's not a
lot of restaurants I haven't been to, but last night
I did go to one It's way up last night?
So about last night?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Last night?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Last night these I went down.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Its way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee and
it's time for about last night.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Now.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I just want to tell you guys, I've been to
a lot of restaurants, but last night I went to
a restaurant that I've never been to before. And Dan,
who was my producer, the one thing that excites him
is Food's right, Dan, what would you say are the
things that excites you them?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's food, what else?
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Sports?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Sports?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And I would say Travis Scott, Traviscott excites you, all right. Well,
last night I went to a restaurant called Cassa Tipriani's.
These restaurants, there's a lot of new members only locations
of different types of restaurants. I feel like it's more
than ever. There's all these members only places. It used
to be like Soho House. You know they have the
(06:52):
gathering spot in Atlanta, they have zz Club. Well, Kassa
Tipriani is another place that is I think pretty hard
to get into. But I had a meeting. So that's
the only reason that I made it into it is yes,
and you know what, they made the meeting like yesterday,
so you know the people that had to meet, Yeah,
definitely knew somebody. So that was a really amazing experience
(07:15):
to be someplace like that. Imagine paying fifty thousand dollars
for a membership to be able to go into a restaurant.
It doesn't cover like anything. You still got to pay
for your food. The food is still expensive, paying for
the exclusivity, paying for the exclusivity. And to be honest,
like I have a membership to Soho House, I did
that because my good friend Ingrid, who owns Ibst Wines,
(07:37):
talk me into it. She was like, Angela, you need
to do this. You know, you have a lot of
meetings things going on. You need a place to be
able to go to. And this is nowhere near as
expensive as some of these other places. But I'm reevaluating.
Let's just say that. But anyway, that's what I did
last night. And when we come back, you tell us
what you did. Maybe not yesterday, but maybe it was
last summer, maybe it was twenty years ago. We want
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to hear your secrets. Eight hundred two ninety two fifty
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Tell us a secret when we come back. This is
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Its way up with Angela. Ye, I'm Angela yee, and
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We're gonna keep your secret between us and the millions
of people listening.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
All right, anonymous caller, tell us a secret.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
So my ESS's father in law is trying to sleep
with me.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, what does he do? Is he like telling you?
Texting you? What's So?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I woke up with my egg a couple of years
ago and I get a random call and he just
he's like hey, and I'm like, oh, how are you?
And he's just like, I'm trying to check on making
sure you're okay and knowhing's in your dad with you know,
with your ex and I you know, we had a
good relationship. So I told him everything and told him
(09:02):
I was doing well, and then he was like, okay,
well you should let me come over so we can
catch up some more. What And then after that it
was just he started giving me money.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Randomly skipped the part where you let him come over.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Oh okay, So I let him come over and we
did just talk. Nothing sexual. Wasn't because he's a lot
older than me. I'm only in my twenties and he's like,
you know, like fifty something, and I don't got confident.
I think after maybe like the fourth time of him
coming over and that's just having a good conversation. He
(09:39):
told me he was like, I'm gonna be very honest
with you. I would like to have sex with you.
I politely told him, I'm not comfortable. It's really because
of who you are in the connection we have. You know,
it wouldn't be right. I'm actually friends with his daughter,
so it makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Did you in your ex on good terms?
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Oh no, it was terrible terms, like we had to
go to court and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Oh damn, So this also might feel good, like ha ha,
look what I just you could be his mom, Like
can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
You could be his stepmom be so much drama and
I can't.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I mean, I like the guy anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
So you think you'll ever tell him I write enough
or you just want to keep on getting stuff from him.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
I told him a while ago. I told him that
I wasn't comfortable, and then he slowly just started back
in a way because he could tell that I was uncomfortable.
So we don't We don't even have communication anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Okay, so this was in the past, but thank you
for sharing with us, Thank you for listening. All right.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I was going to ask you to get me something,
but since you don't talk to him no more. All right,
Hey anonymous Cala, how.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Are you yourself?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
How good? Thank you? You want to tell us a secret.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Years ago judge A judge, Yeah, a.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Jug But okay, so why is that a.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Secret because the judge?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Why is my brother the judges?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Oh so the judge's wife is your mother's friend.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So nobody knows about this.
Speaker 7 (11:19):
Nobody knows you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And you only did it one time? Or was it
an ongoing thing?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Only one thing?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And how long did that last? And why did you stop?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
It lasted for a couple of months and it stopped
because it just wasn't like anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Oh yeah, you felt guilty every time you saw his wife. Yeah,
all right, well you know your honor.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Thank you, Thank you so much for calling us and
sharing your secret with us, no judgment.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Thank you, bye bye. All right, Well that was tell.
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Us a secret eight hundred and two nine two fifty
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I can't believe Tailesswift will do this or wit she.
We'll discuss it in yeat when we come back. It's
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Don't she about to blow the lead ab off this?
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But let's get it.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Oh angelus feeling that yeete, come and get the tea?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What's up? His way up?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But Angela yee, I'm Angela yee, and it is time
for your yeat. Now let's talk about Terryless Swift. According
to reports, she is furious and you know why. There
are some pictures that are circulating on social media of
Tayless Swift.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
But it's not really Tailless Swift.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It's what we call a deep fake, and I mean
deep and we're talking about AI generated images that are abusive, offensive, exploitative,
and done without tailors Swift's consent and or knowledge. Now,
according to reports, the Twitter account that posted them does
not exist anymore. But it's shocking that they would even
be able to have this up anyway. So she's allegedly
(12:56):
going to be taking legal action, That's what she's considering doing,
because using AI generated pornography as someone is awful and inexcusable.
Protect till the Swift was actually trending because of these pictures.
Imagine how you would feel if somebody did that to you.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Dan Me, I don't think anyone's checking for me like that.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But still, how.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
About you, how would you react if that happened to you?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know what I think if people knew it was fake,
I mean, what can I I'm not technology. I know
I'm not tell as Swift though, but you know, you're
right technology. Some people will never realize that it wasn't real,
like some people will see it and forever run with
it and think that it is true.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
But the Swifties are trying to make sure that they
take down all accounts that post it.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
And you know the Swifties are strong.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
All right, Well, we'll see what Tell the Swift has
to say about it, if she says.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Anything at all.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But that was your ut. When we come back, we
have under the radar. These are the stories that are
not necessarily in the headlines. They are flying under the radar.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
In the news that relates to you. These stories are
flying under the radar.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What's up this way?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You put Angela Yee, I'm Angela Yee, and it's time
for your under the radar stories. These are the stories
that are not necessarily in the headlines. They are flying
under the radar. Now this one is especially important. To
me as a woman and as somebody who knows that
elections are happening.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
This year, nearly.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Sixty five thousand rape related pregnancies likely occurred in the
fourteen US states who have a near total abortion ban
after the US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Row versus Wade.
All right, so, yet just ten legal abortions are performed
monthly on average in these states, according to researchers that
they found in a new analysis. So it makes it
(14:43):
impossible for most victims of rape to obtain abortions in
their home states, even for the minority of people who
live in states with exemptions for rape, according to researchers.
And so that number is just absolutely ridiculous, and I
think it's just really important. Even for women who are
having health issues or could potentially die, they now have
(15:06):
to leave their state to have to deal with that
and not have control over their own body. So just
wanted to point that out to you guys. Imagine that
nearly fifth, nearly sixty five thousand US rate victims could
not get an abortion in their state. All right, Well,
that is you're under the radar, and when we come back,
we have your way up mix at the top of
(15:27):
the hour. Plus, we have a special guest joining us,
Lionel TJ.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Tillman.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
He has a really crazy story about child support and
he has a book called How I Stop Child Support Legally.
When you hear his story, you won't believe what happened
to him. And I just want to make sure y'all
know he's not saying that we shouldn't have child support,
but there are certain things that should not be legal.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
All right.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It's way up, just like the child like they a
Jeal Jean like they Angel Jean Man.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
She's spilling it all.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
This is yeaty what's up?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
His way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee. And
it's time for your yet now. I Spice has teased
her new Super Bowl ad. She's actually doing a ad
with Pepsi, and she is revealing her ex boyfriend maybe
in this ad.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Listen to this baby, you look so pretty when you gross.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
Stop much good mord, Just one gra girl? What's up?
Don't look?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Why I said don't look?
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It's my eggs?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
All right.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
She's very secretive about who she has dated and who
she might be dating now. Also, Kevin Hart has lost
his bid to get the defamatory Tasha k video removed
with his ex assistant. According to reports, the judge ruled
yesterday it's just a really vague, overbroad request that doesn't
address actual malice, and so now temporarily they have denied
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that request. According to Kevin Hart, he alleges that he
is the victim of a shakedown and he claims that
he was told when you don't pay, we have to
get money by any means necessary. As we all know,
Tasha Ka has had other defamation allegations.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
One that she's lost.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
That's a four million dollar defamation verdict that's against her
from Cardi B. But we'll keep you updated on what's
happening with this Kevin Hart situation. Angela ye, and that
is your yut when we come back into Friday. So
we got some new music for you. It's way up,
go right.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Everybody since whether it's relationship or career advice, Angela's dropping facts.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You should know. This is ask ee what's up? As
way up? But Angela yee. I'm Angela Yee and it
is a Thursday, and you know what we do every
single day.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
We try to help you out. If there's any questions
that you have. Eight hundred two nine fifty one fifty.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Is the number. It's time for ask ee. Hello Alexa, Hi,
how are you? I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
I'm good? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
And what is your question today for ask ee?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
So my question for ask is I've been with my
man for eight years. We have two sons together, and
I just don't know why he hasn't talked a rushing yet.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
What does he say when you ask him?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
So, he kind of just says he wants to do it,
but it's kind of like I have to bring it
up to him for us to discuss it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
So he's not against it, he's saying he is planning
to do it.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
He's just kind of like, okay with how everything is
right now, So it seems like he's if you're not
going to say anything, he's not going to say anything.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Right And I'm just like, I don't know if I'm
messed up because I let him move in with me.
So I'm like, does he just feel so comfortable that
he doesn't have to do it now?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And does he is he aware of how important it
is to you?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Or do you feel like you don't want to nag
him about it and you just try to bring it
up to test it.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
Oh, he's over.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I don't add to him more than enough. I feel
like it's to the point where I'm actually pushing him away.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, you know this is a deal breaker for you,
is what it seems like. And what I think you
have to do is be serious about it, because sometimes
people don't act because they know you're still going to
be there. So maybe there is a timeline. Look to
be completely honest, and you should have this at a
time when y'all are not arguing, have a conversation, you know,
when nobody's emotions are high, because it is going to
(19:08):
end up being an emotional topic. But let him know
this is something that is extremely important to me. This
is potentially a deal breaker. You are the person that
I want to marry, and if this can't happen, then
I don't know if we can continue this relationship. And
so I will give you six months to figure out
what it is that you want to do. And in
(19:30):
that period of time, you know you can weigh out
the pros and cons and if in six months you
can't figure it out, then maybe we should not live
together anymore and figure out what we're going to do
with the future because we're not aligned, because it's not
fair to you. If it's something that he really doesn't
want and it's something that you do want, then ultimately,
at some point.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Somebody's not going to be happy.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Sometimes people don't see how serious it is, like they say,
you don't know what you got Ti Li's gone right.
Maybe he needs a wake up call of not being
there with you and realizing this is the p Then
he'll be like, you know what, I can't live without you.
I want to be with you forever. This is important
to you, and I realize now bang bang bang. If not,
the worst case scenario is you'll breakup and go your
(20:12):
separate ways and it just wasn't meant to be. But
you know, I don't want you to not get what
you want out of this relationship.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's not fair. You shouldn't have to compromise on something
so important to you.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Very thank you so much. I appreciate the advice, all.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Right, Alexi, And look, it puts the ball in his court.
This is what I want.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
If it's not what you want, then yeah, yeah, I
felt like you halfway out, okay.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Ye, like I am like I'm just like I don't
know what to do anymore. So, but thank you for
the you know, the input I needed to hear that
you are the prime.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You are the prize. Okay, yes, all right, thank.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
You, Okay, thanks you too.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
All right, well that was ask ye. Thank you guys
so much for calling. Eight hundred two nine fifty fifty
is a number in case.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You couldn't get through. And when we come back, we
have a really crazy story from Lionel TJ. Tillman.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
He has a book, How I Stapped Child Support Legally,
and he has a case that's been going on for
over twenty years. And wait till he tells you what
it is that he had to go through. It all
has to deal with child support. It's way up.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Were about to do this?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Yeah, more, way up with Angela ye on?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Now is.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
It's way up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela Yee And
we have a special guest today, Lionel TJ. Tillman, author
of How I Stopped Child Support Legally. First of all,
let's talk about you and what made you decide to
write this book.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Unfortunately, I was put in a situation where I had
to represent myself in a two year hearing against child
support in the County of Los Angeles and ultimately got
my case dismissed for extrinsic fraud after twenty two years.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So what happened?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
They started a child support case against me and I
found out about it seven years after it opened. So
when I found out about the case, I was already
twenty four thousand dollars in arrears because it had accumulated,
and they add up compounded interests on top of the money.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
So I contact them and say, hey, what's going on.
They say, well, you know, you had six months to
respond according to Family Code such and such, and it's
been seven years. I'm like seven years. What do you
mean it's been seven years. They say, well, yeah, it's
been seven years, so there's nothing that you can do.
You may want to contact the court and contact them.
I contacted the court. They said, yeah, it's been the
(22:30):
time it passed. Your response is untimely. And that went
on for another thirteen years.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
So was this a situation where they were supposed to
at least serve you. Yes, so you knew that you
had a court date. So what happened when they tried
to serve you.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
They allegedly said that they served me at which I
later proved was a vacant house. Oh wow, so they
forged the signature of someone named Michael Tillman. My name
is Lonnelle Tillman. And what I proved in court I
subpoena the Department of Water and Power to come testify
of who lived at this place on this day. They
said they didn't have any power there. I also subpoena
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the owner of the home. You had to do this
on your own, on my own, I subpoena the owner
of the home, and she said, well, on this date,
at this time, I didn't have any tennis there, So
how could you serve somebody at this location?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Right now, I'm talking to Lionel TJ. Tillman, author of
How I Stapped Child support Legally. Let's go back to this.
So this was actually your child? No, it wasn't even
your child. Woo, all right, So the pot dickens. So
who was the person that was suing you for child support?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
The County of Los Angeles. Let's just take it back
at the time whether a child was conceived. I was
twelve years old, so once I turned eighteen they started
the case. I found out about seven years later. During
that time they was given the mother government assistance, so
cache food stamps. So this is how this money started
(23:52):
to accumulate.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Did you even know the mother?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
I knew her. I never even bread her. Okay, we're
in nineteen ninety. There's no communication between families and things
of this nature. And that's the last that I heard
of it until two thousand and three when I got
a call from HR saying that they finish our GARNERSH
want checks.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, because I always hear stories about people who have
child support. They owe back child support, and then they
can do multiple things before they arrest you, because they'll
garnish your wages. They'll maybe revoke your driver's license. So
what were the things that happened to you?
Speaker 7 (24:28):
The first thing he did they suspended my license after
a time it had accumulated. They sent the forty eight
thousand dollars bank levy to my account. I didn't have
forty eight thousand dollars in there, but what was in there,
it was all I had, and they took it all.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But the woman who had the child, she did go
and say that you were the father and that's why. Yes, okay,
so that's why this happened. So there was nobody else
she was claiming, was if I the only you?
Speaker 7 (24:50):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
So you weren't even able to get an attorney to
represent you.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
No.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
So just so you understand, when I found out about it,
this is seven years, right, I go to the court,
the course tell me you had six months to respond.
There's nothing that we can do. This went on for
another thirteen years, so now it's twenty years.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Oh my gosh. So how do you think that child support?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Because it is I think across the board a lot
of people would agree that it's a very flawed system.
All right, So, having gone through what you've gone through,
what do you think is the best way for a
child support to exist? Or should it exist?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
How can that happen?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Because there is a responsibility for when paternity is established
that it shouldn't have to be just on one parent
to have to take care of that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What are your thoughts having gone through.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
This, I do believe if a person don't take care
of their offspring, then they need to be on child
support one thousand percent. The issue is Title four of
the Social Security Act. That's what needs to change because
they're still operating on procedures that were put in place
in nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Right, times have definitely changed.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
Times have definitely changed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
All Right. Lionel TJ.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Tillman is here and he's telling history of what he
had to go through with the system with child support.
He does want to make sure y'all take care of
your kids, but he has a different type of story.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's but yep, we have more with him when we
come back.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
This Yeah, yeah, more way up with Angela on them.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You know, it is what it is. What's happens way
up with Angela?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yee.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I'm talking to Lionel TJ. Tillman, the author of
How I Stopped Child Support Legally? What happens after that
when it turns out that the way that they allegedly
served you, even though they didn't was illegal and had
you paid so?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (26:32):
So when the case got dismissed, they offered to pay
me back dollar for dollar, no interest, no nothing. I've
declined it. I took them to federal court for twenty
two years of damages and as of right now, we
have a lawsuit in federal court. They've made two settlement
offers since then, but it's just disrespectful.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
What happened to the woman who had accused you nothing?
Speaker 7 (26:56):
And my goal is not to tear down a black
But the thing is, anything that I say in regards
to her and her involvement in it is not gonna
be good.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So did you raise that child like it was your own?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
No, I had no relationship with her.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Right is that something that would cause you to want
to reach out and say, okay, I want to get
to have a relationship at least.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
With which I did. I called her, I said, hey,
you know, we was trying. Let's just try to figure
it out. She was like, when ain't gonna get me some?
What are you talking about? When I'm gonna give you some?
Like anything that I say about her is going right,
and that's not my goal.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know, this does, more than anything, affect the child
because this child is thinking, like, that's my dad.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
My dad wasn't here. Was he aware that you were
supposed to be?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
So when I actually spoke with him, he told me
that in the beginning, my mother told me that you
were my father. As I got older, she told me
who my actual father was. And that's where we That's
where we left for that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Do you think that there should be some accountability for
the mom legally?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Yes, if you partake and lie and assist in the fraud,
then yeah, you should be held a conon fraud.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Okay, Yeah, So now you have a lawsuit against the
state of California, is.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
That or child support enforcement and the County of Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
The County of Los Angeles, and so what is it
that you would take from them? Because this is something
that affected your life for twenty two years. For twenty
two years, that's not a small thing.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Chapter five of my book is called child support Institutionalized.
When that case got dismissed for fraud, you don't just
go back to living a happy life. It's I've been
under these conditions for twenty two years, so like it
was hard for me to even put things in my name.
It's like, I just don't know if they gonna take
it or right.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
If you think about the things you could have been
able to do with the money with the credit score,
opportunity calls, yeah, with the yeah, absolutely, yeah, So all of.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
That is included in that twenty two years of day.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Now you're not still representing yourself, are you?
Speaker 7 (28:58):
Do you? Yeah? You still I don't have the finances
to go against the County of Los Angeles in federal court.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I would feel like an attorney would think that you're
going to actually win this case, and that therefore they
would be able to.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Get compensated, you know, a percentage of what you end
up getting.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
We way up with Angelinie. Yeah, so hopefully so.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I mean that's what I'm thinking could potentially happen, because
this feels like something that also I'm sure other people
have been affected. You know, You're not the only person
something like this, of course not happen to And this
is not a way to knock people who should be
paying child support, But this is a way to say
this wasn't even your child. You were never served, you
(29:41):
didn't even live at that address, and then why should
you have to suffer from the repercussions of that.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Yeah, And I want to make it very clear, like
the when I say child support is fraud, it is
not to challenge parents' responsibility to take care of their children.
I'm challenging the child support system itself. Did you follow
your own policies?
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Is there something more that you're you're trying to do?
As far as helping other people.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
And that's the whole thing. With the platform child Supporters
fraud dot com or even the ig child Supporters Fraud.
My thing is just educating parents that you do have
parental rights and you can fight to get more time
with your children.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
As you should want to. Sometimes that can be a
really difficult thing.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Take care of them kids, though, man, because this ain't
because this ain't no yet, This ain't no, This ain't
no get out of jail.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Free card, right all right? But where can people find
out more information?
Speaker 7 (30:33):
So everything can be found on child supporters fraud dot
com or Instagram's Child Supporters Fraud.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But thank you so much to lie know TJ. Tilman
for joining me.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Make sure y'all follow him, pick up his book House
Stop Child Support Legally and wats the full interview on
my YouTube channel, Way up with you when we come back,
You guys, of course, have the last word.
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Speaker 3 (30:59):
What's up this Way Up with Angela Yee. I'm Angela
Yee and thank y'all so much for joining me on
a Friday. I'm headed out to Memphis right now, We're
going to the Saint Dude's Children's Hospital Foundation Benefits. There's
actually an app that you can download too if you
want to see what the activities are. Saint Jude evansa
cases anybody that is thinking about attending. But it's a
(31:19):
Saint Jude celebration of hope and they do great work
with the children. So I'm excited for that, and you
guys have a safe weekend. Thank you again to Lin
know TJ. Tillman for joining us, and I cannot wait
to see y'all on Monday. But again, you guys always
have the last word. This is your show. Eight hundred
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Forty years ago, I made love on the top of
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Speaker 6 (32:04):
Hey Angela, I'd like to send the light on my
boyfriend I don't say, and he's celebrating his birthday on Saturday.
I want to stand the light on him. Keep being
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