Jim Jones Gets Real: Harlem Tragedy, Kanye Fallout, Drake’s GOAT Status & More! 🔥👀

Jim Jones Gets Real: Harlem Tragedy, Kanye Fallout, Drake’s GOAT Status & More! 🔥👀

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah up, Jim Jo Yeah, and may know the two
of them have been getting into it just now.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Now the two of us. You didn't you didn't say
the part that you put in like your two cents
that was added just.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
To be for clarity. You said, Harlem is a king
it is a kingdom. I asked Ai, and AI knows everything.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Does not? First of all, AI does not know everything.
It has to learn everything to know everything. And they
realize that what I'm saying we have to teach all of.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Them is just a section in Manhattan, no different than
the West Side, the Lower east Side.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
The Kingdom re named it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
So so stands for South of Houston. Crazy now because you.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Know what, you know what they're mad about. Before they
make their statement, they mad that Bests considered the Hall
them so now so now they want to come with
this rhetoric heard best one hundred fact because it's not

(01:06):
the bar of Brooklyn that has the most energy, a
little bit of style, it has the most has the
most style in Brooklyn. I would say that best Star
has the most style in Brooklyn, the greatest. So when
we when they when they when they make them similarity,
best best side, the closest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
BESI stands for Bedford. So we renamed Harlem.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
We Harlem is nothing but lowerment.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah yeah, and that's how they start marketing.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's that got a ring to it.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I like that. You should run with that, you know that? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, the best just a sension of Dumbo. It's not
even that's slopes right, No, you the gentrification. There's no
best starts. You got in between the park slope north,

(02:06):
that park well park west.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Best starts park slope west.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
From now if this is what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
You got sections just in between the.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
No, no, no, best does park so west.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's not even next to not even next if Crown.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
If I can go from best, you can go from
park slope to you got also, boy breaks up. Broadway
doesn't go all the way. They got south Broadway, but
they don't connect. But yeah, broad straight, I'm talking about
that Broadway go straight from the back. Man.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
But let's go and brook that Broady that's bush Wait,
that's what But that's.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
The break up.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, okay, that so park slope.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Nowhere there Broadway say, noway, ain't.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Brow And that's what people listening for context, You know what?
You know what University is Bushwick North.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
That's what it is. That's why I messed it up. Okay,
bes start Brownsville South its Brownsville South and Bushwick North.
You're gonna give you all that. I know best time
Bushwick is right across the street, So best times feel
like more lives come from.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Bushes that I told him not.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's just a section and you're not a borough, my
nigga fly Yeah, what do you say this like that
New York, New York.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
It doesn't say Harlem, Your male says New York, New York.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Homes on the place.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's a place, but it's it's not legitimate. It's like
no place, says all of them.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You want to like, you want to try to take
this away from Camp Callaway where he was going hoty, hoty,
hoty to host. He was high high into the hole.
You're gonna see all of them.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
It's imagine that you don't have nothing that It's like
the Magic Kingdom.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
It's like you got you got the Brooklyn Did you
hear that we have they had to walk to y'all.
Other than that, they got no Cotton club. You only
had you none of that. Nobody went to Brooklyn to
go party except for Jamaica's you heard, ye, that's what
you got travel. But to travel Fox, you had to

(04:28):
make a lot of.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Travel Fox Western you had.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Going on.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I can't take that from you.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I mean, why would you come up try to start
this today?

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Why would you try to start this today?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Some of didn't even start yet, you already starting.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
And he's going to be in Brooklyn this summer. Let's
be clear.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
But I love Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Do I love the most all of the miss Brooklyn?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Nigga? No? I love Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, I love Brooklyn. No murder be home soon?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
I love Happy birthday?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Happy birthday? Today is his birthday? You heard?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Okay, well listen, this is how we started it off today.
I'm gonna use this just strictly for New York because
when people come and people are listening to the show,
a lot of people also, I don't know if people
really realize that Harlem is part of Manhattan though, like
because of the way it's marketing. It's marketing the Bone.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, it's not its own.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's like the Magic King, it's match it's basically basically
got in your mind, your.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Real the Harlem number none busts and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't even know how.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
You had a great series on Prime though, Harlem the
series on Prime that was a nice that was.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
That was what what's the name.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
The lady?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
The lady? Yeah, making good? You don't want to say, Okay,
I didn't get to see it. Yeah, no, you gotta
watch it. It's it's you know, it's very representative of Harlem.
But today Harlem is it? Yeah? I would say that.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Like New Harlem watched it got scamming and there is
there any scamming in there.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think it's like a love at scamming in there.
It ain't reflecting on Harlem. You heard not right now?

Speaker 6 (06:07):
You heard?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
You know, and many love stories of Harlem.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
There's a lot of drug stories.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
So let's not change with young millennials.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
They in love and they're scamming.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Maybe so and they're not Just say, young millennials definitely
not in love.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Why you say that?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Because they fairies? They stop it. I like that, but
it's like your bro, it's not in love. They in
love with what they in love with? Thoughts the thoughts love.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
I'm wrong with thoughts.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, but I gotta watch the show you heard I
want to watch it. I don't think it's because there's
a love story scamming.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's not like it's serious.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
It's like women.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's like notice like it's like sex and especially not
Hallm Black women with jobs I love. But it's not
too many women. It's like, not too many people in
Harlem with jobs.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
We hustle, no people working.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
We hustle.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, not like it's not consider working. Hustle.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
We hustle for our money.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Everybody do know hustle hall A job is a hustle.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
So you got working class people that live in Hallm
that get up every day and provide for their family.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
So you know that show, I think it's like, I
think it's like a sex in the city.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
But where do we see this set?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Like really on TV exactly?

Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's why it's TV.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Said there was a reflection of how Harlem is today.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Listen, we got people that live in that work in
the industry, that live in Harlem. There's a lot of
people that live in Harlem, people that work in fashion.
And the brown stoves in Harlem are beautiful. A lot
of people have been moving up there investing in those
all right, you.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Know what, Youndred percent they do got different. That's a
different social circle than us.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, and we have to be cognizant that there's the
same thing in Bedstide.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
But Harlem is still Hall of them is one of
the most creative places in America. It is also one
of the most dangerous places in America. Also one of
the most loved places in America. Like, so, when y'all
try to displace the real Harlem, I'm not a fan
of gentrification because they don't hire any odd people anyway,
They hire very minimum of the people that live there,
and I have something against that. I have nothing against

(08:20):
the gentrification really because they're making things look good, but
when they don't, the inclusion part of it is terrible.
And that goes in best style too. They're not hiring
the people in best style when to come to the
when they come to the inclusion of gentrification, the moving
people out. Yeah, So then they make these shows to
try to paint this different picture of Harlem. So people like, oh,
I want to go to Harlem, but no, let's pat
the real thing. Let's get to the real facts and

(08:41):
let's help the people that's there instead of trying to
displace them and take them out of the place that
they live to put them all the way upstate, because
you'll want to move more different colored people inside of
our area.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
You know what I think too, to your point when
it comes to discussing gentrification, that it is also important
for people to get like their contractor's license, to become
a GC, do all of those things so that we
can also be part of that. That's I do think
that women need to learn.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
We would need to learn that, educate ourselves and educate
and that's a problem when we don't have the best
education when it comes to financial literacy or things like
that when it comes to gentrification and how we could
be included on the big side of things, but on
the flip side of things, the small parties. These people
who are building things, storefronts that come with stores and
they open them and they not including the people that
come from our neighborhood. And that's a red flag to me, right.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
And look, that's why we always say that local politics matter, right,
because we do have to make sure that locally we're
voting for people that have our best interest in supporting
those people. Because the two to the matter is when
it comes to politics, politicians do the most for people
who financially can come together and support their campaigns but
also make demands. We can't just not vote or say
well we wanted this, it didn't happen. We got to

(09:48):
really make our voices be heard. That's how change really happens,
right locally, where you're like, okay, well this is going
to happen. We need to make sure that we have
X amount of people working on this project, or we
have this person. We want to put them in position
and put them in place. But that's a community effort,
I feel like for all of us.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
I mean, it's deeper that. Yeah, they already don't give
us jobs anyway. So for me saying that they don't
give us a job and it mister gentrification in my neighborhood,
it just me put another tear in a bucket full
of tears, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Like it's no way around.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's like, as black people, we don't get the job
opportunities that we deserve, and they start gentifying our neighborhoods
and they definitely ain't given us the jobs that we
deserve inside of those neighborhoods that everybody already know what's
in Like it's just all messed up.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I do think it's all messed up. And I also
believe that even like being able to open a business
or being able to purchase and invest in your community too,
and then you're able to say this is what I
want to do, like for me to do the coffee
shop and best Die and then say we hire all
black and brown people to design the place, from the
you know, from the person who did the plumbing to

(10:46):
the person who actually did the interior design to all
the products that we sell in there, Like those are
things that we have to do intentionally because right now
DEI is.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
But intentional is hard for us as a people, because
black people is for some reason, it's hard for us
to get together and do things together. And we had
a little bit more of that, a little bit more
community where we believe in each other.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
But it started just like what she's saying, it starts
like we got to start it, even if it's individual.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, I'm now I'm only one person. I've started
years ago. I've been in my community trying to leave
by example and help with what I can and do
different things and show people different things as far as
financial libacy or help people while we're trying to get
different stores and things like that. Like I've been there
doing that.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I remember, oh Man, talk to me about that, because
I remember.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Before we even go any further, the lady that was
my partner in that boat day. Her name was Mamas,
and she ended up getting killed in front of her
building in my neighborhood in Harlem, on my block. And
I just want to send my prayers, my condolences. I mean,

(11:48):
this lady was a patron of my neighborhood. She looked
after all the kids there. If you was hungry, should
go upstairs and cook for you. Like her heart was
the reason why I tried to help her with her store.
When she is in the midst of losing and things
like that. She has she's a mother, she's a grandmother.
She ran outside trying to figure out if her grandson's

(12:09):
out there and got hit with a stream. It's just
so cold, and I'm so disappointed in my neighborhood. I'm
so disappointed in myself because the generation that comes up
after us is a generation that we raised, and we're
not raising them the way we need to, you know
what I mean, Like we need to take accountability and

(12:30):
responsibility for how we raise our kids. This is a
reflection on us, and it's hard for me. I'm not
trying to paint the kettle black because I've been in
these positions, but I've been trying to change myself for
my kids as I got older. And I know I'm
in a different position than most people when I know,
but it's disgusting. It's disgusting what's going on in all
our neighborhoods. But for me to be on that block

(12:52):
as often as I am and to know that happened,
and I couldn't even have been out there, it could have,
you know what I mean. But to know that mama'
z a person.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
That really really really loved our.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Neighborhood, our community, and I've just got close with her
in the past few years, but I've watched it in
my neighborhood for years, you know what I mean, just
just pretty much helping and molding these kids and things
like that, and it just hurts my heart, man like,
just to even like I thought about I cried so
hard that night when they when they told me that happened.
I wasn't stood on a block for hours, like in

(13:24):
the wee hours in the morning, it's like and I've
been through there. Like you know, I'm a kid that
wasn't always a good kid, you know what I mean.
And I had to go through a lot of shit
to get to the point where I'm at now and
looking back and trying to do what I can. It's
just like, damn. And this is why I say I'm
hard at myself because I've done a lot of things
that I'm not proud of. I don't regret, but I'm

(13:45):
not proud of it. Things that I figured that's all
a part of the journey of One thing I say
about you is that you you continuously fixed you in
the in the community. You stayed in Harlem. Any any
when you home, we can go to Harlem and find you.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
So do you feel like that helps the more around
for the young dudes to see you one hundred community,
to continuously see you there, to being a part of it.
I've come there, pull up, we come up there, a
bunch of cars, bunch of bikes, cookouts on that.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
That helps.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I need to be there. These kids need to see
somebody that came from where they came from and was
able to figure it out how to make out out
of that matrix and be able to provide for their
family because I'm not the only one that has a
chance to make it out, you know what I mean.
And the more people who I can show that to,
I'll figure the more people that I can help make
it out, and things like that. On the flip side
of that, the media paints it to where they think
it's like taboo, Oh, you're getting money while you should
be in the hood. And then they try to put

(14:43):
so much emphasis on things that happen to people like
NIP like to try to scare people like us from
being in our neighborhood. No, we pallers of our community,
and these kids need to see us. They need to
see us as much as they can to know they
can do the things that we've done. I ain't perfect
at all, but I'm a perfect example what you could
do if you stay focused and put your mind to
it and risk what you got to get where you

(15:04):
gotta go. You know what I mean. I don't care
about nothing, honest day's work. I'm with whatever. If I
had to take cans back, whatever I had to do
to get here, I would, you heard. But the media
paints is so crazy for us as artists as leaders
because they scared of that, They scared of the power
that that holds. Because the more of us staying in
our community as leaders, these kids are going to start

(15:26):
to see us as so and they're gonna follow and
suit and they don't want that to happen. Or maybe
I'm bugging you know, I mean.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
That's a that's a that's the point.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
If you in the community with a with a with
an agenda like that, like you you come to my
hood when we did main no day that was with
an agenda no violence. They don't like to see that.
They don't. They never they never see that, like like
they don't. They don't talk about these things. They don't
want that to spread, you know what I mean. There

(15:56):
was a time in our culture before us when the
black parents and had.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
This thing going on in the community.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
That everybody felt and nobody was perfect.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
The community still doing what the community does, but amongst
us there was carderie, there was ordered, there was parameters
that people didn't you're there, and then there was somebody
that was dead support in our community. They made that
a race because that was true powerful for them. They
start locking people up for doing positive things, so We're
at a point where we don't even hardly see that anymore.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
We don't have examples.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
And this is why I love the Nips so much,
because he was a perfect example of using what you
have to bring in the mass. They say in the bable,
if you build it, they gonna come. He started building,
they start coming, they start getting scared.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's exactly why Mano and I have these conversations where
I'm like, you're a great example for people who are
in your situation to see like him going back to
Rikers Island and him going and talking to you.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I commend him for that.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Actually, we're talking about that all the time.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I wish I could do certain things like that, Certain
things I can't do they don't allow me to do.
But to see him is even better because he's really
been through them circumstances, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
my friend's been through it. I've never been through it.
But so for him, it's like for him to be
able to go back into things what he made it
out of.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
It's cold.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
They can't say nothing to him, you heard, they can't
they can't criticize him, a critiquing for anything, because he's
been in the in the midst of that, and he's
telling them ways to get out of it. He's showing
them by being there talking. I made it out of this.
I wasn't here for skip bit.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
I was here.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
The other thing that he does is like he'll sit
here and trade stocks during the show. I think those
are all things that are really valuable for us. Like
a lot of times kids will be on their phone
all the time, but you could be creating apps, you
could be learning how to learn about that.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
But these kids are smart. So what I was telling
us that, like their pain, is to be different. So
for the white people, they call them hackers. My young
boys they call them scammers, right right, wow, But the
young boys are scamming, are doing the same thing the
hackers are doing. So what is the difference.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
The hackers go away to jail for blue collar crimes.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
The scams go away to jail with blue collar crimes.
But they separate the too, because they don't want to
show these young black kids or the young minority kids
how powerful it is and how smart of geniuses they are.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I want to say, though, these scams are getting out
of control right now. They are too good. Like online,
when you begin these text messages, all of these emails,
these phone calls. I feel like it is and.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
The energy is putting into it and knowledge that they're doing,
Like you know, you're not how smart the average kid
is inside and you got to need to be scamming.
These kids are going in banks and pulling that money out.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Of nothing, right, like magic tricks you did.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
But the white people do.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
The same thing and they you know how smart you
got to be to know how to do that. Yeah,
but there's always been a separation information.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
But they assassinate the presidents, or they assassinate people with power,
but they murder right right, right right.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I mean that's all about how you word it.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
It's all about in the way.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Power words whole power because that creates the perception, right,
so we perceive to be smaller, marginalized than it's always
going to be that.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Pet But we start to talk about it like this
and they start coming down on us.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
You heard heavy. They don't like it.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
But I love my people, I love my community are
Peter Mama Z. We got to stick together to make
it things get better. That's the only way we're going
to get through it is to go through it. And
we're going through it right now, but we can't get through.
I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm glad you you talked about that because there's a
lot of talk earlier or last year about Harlem, where
you're from, and you know, and in what you mean
to Harlem, right, So so many people associate you with
the fact that you walk you dipset right right, Harlem.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
That's a staple and hip hop.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
But you're probably the only person that actually still there.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Hm hm, you know I mean, And I mean I'm
near with the people, so I'm not the only person
that's still there, But I know what you mean. As
far as people that have done things with their life
and can't come back to give back or help in
certain ways and things like that, Yeah, I'm pretty much
the only person standing on the front line that's like that,
you know what I mean. And there are people that
are successful harm that's staying with me and things like that,

(20:18):
But I know what you mean. As far as the
power of the success that I know now, they not
deal with me, you know what I mean. So I'm
near though you you can come higher me, you can
pull up like you do you dig. I'm here. I'm
helping the community. I ain't there drinking and drugging and
showing these kids that. No, I'm leading them by example.
I'm talking to these kids. I'm helping my comrades out.
We did together, like you know what I mean. Like

(20:39):
there's a lot that goes on with the community, and
when I come out, there's a certain level of respect
and a certain level of energy that's out there when
I'm present, you know what I mean. And these kids
need that out there. They need it, they need it,
they need it. Some are about to come up. Were
about to do Kingdom, real big Kingdom for Mama Zee.
I'm gonna speak to Hauntcho later. If you're from the block,
just know we're doing king doing for Mama Ze. I'm

(21:01):
gonna put it up your her haunchal holler at me.
I'll be in the neighborhood later. We're going big this year.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And you know, the new album is out obviously at
the church steps listen. So you really just don't have
to You just go in there and wrap. You don't
really write stuff down.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Nobody writes. Nobody writes.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I mean, I mean, but no, I don't. But no,
I don't have books.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I never word I don't know I mean in the beginning,
I couldn't. I could never write like everybody writes at
the beginning. And I was writing my wraps in the beginning,
and I could never read and rap with the energy
I need like you can. You can hear I'm reading.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
You gotta come up with my wrap.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
So it was like, this is not gonna work for me.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Se he the only person I know to go to
sleep writ in his rhyme and wake up with the rhyme.
This is are per one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
So we're going in.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
You know, I think on my rhymes too. I ain't
writing him down neither. So we listened to the beat.
He's smoking on the side, and then I turned around.
His eyes closed, he's sleep. He look like he's sleep.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
You do that in here, Yeah, I'll do that here.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
But when he wake up, his rhyme is done. He
the only do what I've ever seen do that.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
I got subconsciousness that I kind of fall in, and
I could because I could tell that the way that
you address real things that's going on, like on a
song like Jomo, when you really talking about current things
that's happening in your life, that's very personal, but it
sounds like you're really just telling it inventing.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
It feels like it's therapeutic.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yes, very music is the most therapeutic thing besides the
gym for me, you know what I mean. All that
goes on to social media and on the internet, and
you know, I'm not going back and forth with no
one on the internet about anything. I mean, So it
was just like the best way for me to get
my truth out is by my music, because I know
I'm spitting my truth and nobody can't take that away
from me, no matter what lies is spewed or whatever

(22:50):
hate is spewed at me. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
It feels like you're the master of the All press
is good press because things happen, people say things, and
then you're like, well, while attentions on lesson, let's put
this out.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I mean, it depends on who you are. I mean,
all pressed, it can be good pressed if you know
how to finis it. I know how to take a
negative and turn it into a positive. That's where it
works for me. So and he pressed the surrounding any
negative things about me, I'm going to turn it into
a positive because I know nine times that the tennis
a lie and I am the truth, you know what
I mean, And I ain't no way he gonna be
able to hear the truth until I tell it. So

(23:22):
I'm I'm able to use that in my favor a
lot of times. Now. If I was a stone cold
liar and person like that, then maybe it wouldn't work
in my favorite But I know I'm not. You know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Now, we definitely want to ask you what I want
to get from you, just because you spent time with
Kanye and then all of that happened, right, A lot
happened with that.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
I looked up and Kanye. It was like, fuck, Jim Jones,
I know, and.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
How did that happen? Do a PDF for something? But
I do want to know because the concern I have
is said and I have, it's like, what do you think,
as somebody that was around is really going on? Like
I remember I went out with Jay Electronica and when
they were working on the Donda album and got a

(24:09):
chance to really sit down and experience and see certain
things myself, and as somebody who clearly you went out
there because you care right and you wanted to and
you worked and fashion You and Kanye I'm sure are
so aligned on that as people who have always been
fashion forward, fashion killers, you know, just so to speak.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
I mean, Kanye is a dupe person. Let's not take
that away. He has he has everybody has the ship
they going through. He's obviously always going through the most
went to Japan was a was a great trip for me,
called me and up going out there. Everything I've done
with Kanye has been on my down. So let's not
get this. I paid up with it fifty thousand dollars

(24:48):
to get the Japan and back and.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
And just and the boy went on that trip too, right, okay,
because we.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Saw out the day, but pay for anything of minds.
I'm a grown ass man, let's get that straight. I
went out there for the experience. Fuck with ya, do
some fashion, bring chunks and clothes. Everything was cool, like
the normalcy that I seen in him out there, or
it was perfect, like the way the direction that he's
editing headed in with the music and the fashion. It
was dope, and I was feeling the whole direction. Fast forward,

(25:15):
he went to La everything was still dope. It's just
that I don't know. He just end up thinking that
I probably was in his employee or some sort like
that like, I don't know what he's talking about is
then he goes into this he's he's just a wild
boy man, and it's like, it's like, who am I
to start spazzling on him and going crazy like I'm
I'm gonna put you in it. Got time to be

(25:38):
worrying about nothing that he got going As you can see,
obviously have something going on with him. He needs some
type of help, you know. I think he just needs
a lot of normal people around him, because one thing
I did notice is that when I was around him,
I bring a not on normal ship to the table
that he appreciated. He has a bunch of yes people
around him, people that's going to say us and do

(26:00):
everything that he wants to do. And I don't know,
you dig for me. I'm just you're a man. I'm
a man. You did like I'm gonna say what I
gotta say, you say, you're gonna say what you gotta say.
Them type of things don't happen this environment. So people
like us that bring that to the environment, they respect that,
you know.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
I mean I felt that I was like.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Damn, but boy got a little screws loose and ship
like that, and obviously from the things that he's been
talking about. My dude, see that he needs attention. Like
he seems to want the most attention in the world.
I mean, if he's not the person that's talked about that,
he's talking about everybody else so people can talk about him,
you know what I mean, Like he wants to be,
from what I can see, is the.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Most famous person in the universe all time.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I feel like he's wake up, you.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Know what I mean, Like I have to be the
famous person he doesn't call this album.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, so that wiled out on party, put the gun on.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm not in the news today.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
I'm a sucker dick today, like I'm not.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
He can have kept that.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
One where you going?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, but yeah he.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
So, because that's the thing, right, I don't knock nobody.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Yeah, but I was waitall yo, wow.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
But man, like, but this is what I'm saying. It
doesn't matter what this man seems to say. Man, go
out the good graces of people.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Don't do this the game.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Like no matter how many people would not getting already
like out of he would never even heard again from them,
not in no parties, no, no, no, we don't want
you here, Like out.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Of here, and he knows that though he came up
with k K K hooding you on everything.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I'm about to go buy one and see how that
ship worked for me.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It's not don't just how to work.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
You think I'm gonna be up here talking crazy about
this man. It don't work.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Let him do him.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I appreciate the good times we had, like we had time.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
We had a time. It was a time.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
But he's smart.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
He's a small he's a genius.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
He knew how to sell some shit, and that's the
one thing that I do credit him for.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
He's in this fashion game.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
He's not the most fly is. He's not the most stylish.
I'm telling you that firsthand, as he was trying to
take out my whole body when I walked in. But
we always knew that. But he knows how to use
influence in the right way when it comes to fashion.
He knew what he wanted and he was the first
person to turn that into commercial dollar that was bigger

(28:40):
than anything. So I would trade all my fashion flyness
to figure out how to turn this shit into a
billion dollar business I have. That's what he did that
nobody figured out how to do you did so me
being fly is one thing, but me getting paid billions
of dollars for this fly as a whole whole, and
nobody can't take that away from that man. You heard

(29:01):
he had people come in the stadiums by the thousands,
like every one of his marketing strategies hit in a
multi million dollar way.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
I'm med with him in Japan and I'm watching how.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Oh wait, maybe they saw three million dollars on.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
T shirts today at twenty dollars T shirts?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Mind you, this is not right?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
You'd he's selling twenty dollar clothes and he's making three million?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Oh wait, no, what that? What like? Yo?

Speaker 5 (29:24):
But I'm just watching them, and I'm observing.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
And I'm learning, banking them, spanking them.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Niggas is quietly you dig and the things that I
see in him juggle as far as his business sense,
and that's what I'm talking him. I said, I respect
your businesses, your genius, whatever shit you're doing, your one
man arm. You have a billion dollars. You could do
what you want because you'll never go broken to save
whatever you were Like you heard, but you remember, you're
the front man, you're the sniper, you're the sort, You're everything.
Old in that one army. When it comes to that shit,

(29:49):
this ship. I respect you for your creative your genius.
You know how to make some money. I can't fuck
with this shit you heard. And this is the conversation
we was having on our text. And I have all
a text this one be that's I'm laughing, Like, yo, bro,
you talking about this two million dollars. If I was
one of these niggas, I love the media, I would
put the whole text on with quietly and show you
everything that you lied about, like bro, like don't like,

(30:11):
let's not do this. We only talk through text, bro.
And and you didn't even know what a vig was.
I nobody know how you don't know what the viig was.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
You don't know what the biggas. You don't know what
the vegas.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
If you get a bag of money, like, I'll get
my veig off that the kingdom talk?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
When is it? Veig?

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Tell them?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
See, I do know about that money. You heard you
This is a business term you heard, but you ain't
got to get into that. But I'm not one, okay,
But whatever it was, you know either you heard like
this this certain ship, I bro. You how you don't
know how you make it a billion dollars. Nigga, you
don't know what the veiggas like. How you talking to

(30:57):
me and you don't even know what the biggas like.
So it just but we had our own back and forth.
Nigga say, he went to shoot the fair room and
I said, what what I said? I said, I'm flying
out to l A tomorrow. We can shoot the thirty
one that's turns where I'm from. We fight for thirty
one seconds. I kick your ass for thirty one seconds.
I hold you, and can I fly?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
He said?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
He said, I got it on text.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
He said no.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I was just we don't have to do that. He
text you and said, I will fight you this. I
will fight you. I know it's not the best. I
will fight you.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I have got no perhaps of beating up Kanye.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
They would we wanted to. I would have flew to
l A thirty one seconds put the funk on and
that's exactly how you were doing thirty one second want
to shoot the fair one?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I funck with his energy like he has. He has
something like an innocent energy about him. When he's in
front of.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
The right right as soon as you go.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Away, like even with this ship with game, like I
was getting with him in a game like games in.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
There for hours and hours, hours and hours and hours
and hours working on this album, waiting patiently for you
to come fix like they was in there to see
like who So I'm just like yohing my mom.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I'm like certain people just on this is what they on.
You heard this this, no change.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
With that, and I don't have with that all the money.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
To be But the thing to me is, I feel
like when you go meet that like look at you,
Dallas sign, you know, did the projects and now he's like,
we're not doing another one. I feel like when right
at this point, now if you go do you know
that's gonna happen, like you have to anticipate, but I'm
gonna go back home. And then he gone, It.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Wasn't that deep for me to it was deep for him. Obviously.
The PDF he was asking about was about fashion. He
wanted me to, uh designed this whole string for gave
me the premise, said cool. I showed them how I

(32:59):
need to be done, show them what you need to do.
I was pulling the shit up this how I need
to look this everything Pop laid it out for him,
blew his mind.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
He like, nah, you're alien.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I need more. I need you, Like, yo, nah, I
need you to stay here. And it's the day before
my album, Like, so this is the this is the
cold part. The day before my album comes out. I'm near.
I'm like, y'all gotta bustle more. He's like, no, we
ain't making billions off of clothes. I'm like, bro, I
have my album coming out of the mall. I respect
what you're saying, but I'm going back home because I

(33:31):
got people that love me. I got fans that respect
what I'm doing. Like, my life don't stop for you. Jack, Like,
what's wrong with you? I He's like, oh man, I'm
like yo, bro, And on my mind, I'm like, okay,
I see what type of person this is. I'm out
of here.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
But I'm like, yeah, we're not doing this.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
You heard. You just lost one. You heard. Because I'm
the type of person that I will do everything I
need to do for anybody.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
That's just how I am.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
But when you show me you're not willing to do
anything for me, I can't deal.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
I can't fuck with you.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
You heard and you knew my album was coming out.
Nor did you say, oh, congratulations, nod you say, oh,
let me posting shit up, Nor did you say anything
that had to be with my album. It was all
about you, good because I'm all about me. You heard
I sent him a picture was me and him in
the picture. I sent him a picture right before I left.
I said, I'm trying to figure out who's the superhero,

(34:20):
who's the villain. I'm gonna catch you later. You heard,
just like that.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I well, now I see why.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah. So I've created my own technology with Amazon. You
think I don't know how to do a PDF like
do you see? I know how to engineer my own sessions.
You see you put build computers by myself.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
That was Quarantine Studios.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yes, of course I know how to do a PETF
But you're not gonna steal a sauce. That's another thing.
A lot of these kids they have it, but they
don't have the sauce. You might got the package in.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
But you don't got the sauce to sell.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
You heard, Oh, this is wild. I'm just envisioning all
of these things happening in the way that you said that.
My god, I know I get it.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Incredible soul, very given.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I've seen him give away so much and he has
a heart like I'm telling him like yo, and I'm
telling him, like yo, you go wild, but whenever you
go wild, you gotta come back and do some powerful
shit too. I told him not to let people know
that this all party of Ship, but if you keep
doing powerful shit that helps people in this culture, you're
going to do.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
With it by far, no matter we want to.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
You know what Mano said about you today before you
came in here. He said, you're the hardest working person
he knows. He was like, Jim is always working like it.
If it's not the music, if it's not the working out,
if it's not the entrepreneurship, if it's not all of
those things. He was like, I've never seen nobody work
as hard as he does.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
We all will have a cheeris to rest. But while
I'm here, I gotta do my best. And for me
to do my best, I gotta work for it. They
ain't giving me nothing, especially not me. For some reason,
I feel like people think I got it already and
I don't. But I'm willing to work for it. All
you heard, I'm willing to do whatever I have to
do to support me and my family. That's just me.
I'm not trying to go broke again. I've been there.
I know what it feels like to come up broke.

(36:10):
I know what it feel like to be rich. I
know what to feel like to go broken after being rich.
I know where to feel like. The damn didn't lose
everything while you just it was a multi million dollar nigga,
you heard. And the only way to come back that
was to get up off my ass and work with
a few good words from a few good men that
see me displaced. And there was a few people that
really came to my aid and not financially easy, more

(36:31):
mentally than anything. And that's what I needed, you know
what I mean, at those times in need, I didn't
need nobody to help me out and give me money.
I needed people to help me mentally to figure out
where I was at. And these people that like even
main it was a part of my journey, still a
part of my journey, you know what I mean. And
I figured it out. But they were trying to bury
me out here. They were trying to drown me. Maybe

(36:51):
whatever they could do to get to get me out
of this game. It felt like that that were trying
to do. And I knew this was a place that
I wanted to be. I know this was a place
where I could feed my family and lived life from
my dreams forever if I do it right. And I
know they said that you don't get us, you don't
get a second chance, but you could take a second chance,
you heard. And I'm from a place where we take
all the time. So I said, I'm gonna take as

(37:11):
much as I can this time and make sure I
give back more than I take.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Black Balling is a real thing.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
But I got a good gun jump shot.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
You heard that.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Sometime, But they definitely black balled me.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And I heard that from the black baller himself. We
ain't got to say no names and things like.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
That, but somebody told you they black.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
But it was one of the greatest conversations I ever had. Also,
that was a time where a lot of sanctions was
being left off me, and that person definitely did a
more of a service to me than of this service
he did when he started to a.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Brunch that you got a brunch, it definitely was.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It definitely was at a dinner, was at a great
dinner and things like that, But it was just like,
you know, it made me understand how strong of a
person I wasn't through the history of my career about
me and how people felt about me on the things
they knew that I could do on my own, whether
they were good or bad. And I understood that because
there's no reason for people that powerful to try to

(38:10):
backball a black kid like me.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Do you understand what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
So they seen whatever it was about me, and there's
a lot to me. You heard, and they try to
get that out, but you can't. You could bury me,
but you can't bury your seed. I'm gonna grow, you heard,
and I grow the different. I figured out the things
that I was doing yesterday was no way for me
to survive. I'm gonna do them today, and I switched
a few things up. I made amends with a few

(38:33):
people because a lot of these people that I had
problems were my problems directly, and nobody got killed to
die from these problems that I did have, and me
surviving this game was way more important than me having
an ego about some shit that didn't even matter.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
You feel like you're in a best space right now.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I feel like I'm in the best space ever. I'm
richer than that ever been. I feel better than I
ever been. I'm in best shape of my life right now.
We out here moving. I got heavy motion shouts to
all my young boys that've been believing in me, holding
me up. There's a great feeling to be able to
relate to my my generation and the generation that's coming
after me. You heard like, hey, I don't see too
much of that going on, and that's because we lead

(39:09):
them by example. Yeah, I like the party. Would also
like to give back and teach my youngest how to
get to this money and give my young as a
helping hand. Like there's not too many people in our
position that's doing that. They seem to have a problem
with the generations that come up after us and shit
like that, Like we want that same people. Where we
were doing diplomats, we got helliflag for everything, you know
what I mean. But we were able to figure it out.

(39:29):
And I was like, damn, while all these old heads
be seeming like they hating on us when we're just
trying to make a dollar in.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
The same game that they want to.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I also understood what when they say your idols
become rivals. We understood that early, you know what I mean,
But I don't in my mind. I come from the
hood where each one teaches one I make a dollar.
I'm willa show you how to make a dollar. We
all gonna make a dollar. And I'm like, I'm doing
that in a game. I'm not hiding the money from nobody.
I'm not shunning these little niggas. Look now, look, if
the game didn't flip, the young generation don't even need

(39:58):
none of us. They spanking books, They making more money
than you ever made. They laughing at us. You heard
I was gonna They're not gonna laugh at me.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
You heard so many ways to make money right now.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
And I'm doing all of it. You heard tagged me
and boss. And that's what I'm looking. I'm like, damn,
how I'm not as lit as these young boys. And
I'm liter like, I'm like, what's going on is it's
a difference because we so caught up in our down
and sold ways of marketing and promoting ourselves that we're
not even looking at what's really going on and who's
really being successful. When I start tapping into this side,

(40:31):
like oh, that's what you're doing or sign me up.
I'm gonna figure out how to do it all my own.
I'm not chasing what you're doing. We're gonna figure out
the medium so that I can get into it. When
you see now you see me doing all the streams,
I'm not doing the crazy shit the young niggas doing
streams that I am doing something dope, something they can
relate to, something that they could take from it, you
know what I mean. Like, so it's like I'm figuring

(40:51):
this loop out where I can stay in this game
and be profitable and successful and still be a household.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Name to the youngsters, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Like, that's not an easy task right now because of
people from our generation make it so hard because they've
been hating on the young generation so hard. And I'm
like even with the female artists, who they do the
same thing to the younger female artists, like.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
You know what's up right up?

Speaker 2 (41:14):
We had a time, it's not a time no more.
It's a young game. Not saying that we can't be
a part of them be successful, but it's always been
a young game. So give the youngsters their chance.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Let them rough.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I feel like you've also always been a person that's
kind of ahead of things, you know, even doing reality TV,
but even doing and I always talk about this play
you had. I was just talking about it the other
day when he had that play that was like based
off of his life, and I feel like that and.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
If I wasn't being black Ball at that time, that
play would be othello.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
To this it was very good. I'm not gonna lie.
I went to it. I was like, hear what I said.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
So I wasn't being black Ball at that time, that
play would be othello. Today. A fellow took our concept
and put the old school clothes on it and made
a rap play because they play wasn't popping until after
they came and watched our shit.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Promise you that you know I'm a smart or the.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Other one Hamilton Hamilton? Yeah Shakespeare was.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Hamilton, but yeah that we like. So. But I was
speaking about somebody not too long ago, like, yo, that
play you didn't have, Is there any way for you
to bring it back? Like, there's always a way to
bring it back. I've done so much dope music. We
could add some different things to it. So who knows,
maybe I'll be able to bring that back with my
new light of in this new light of success that

(42:33):
that having things like that, Like I think these are
things that I've done that not too many people can accomplish,
you know what I mean. Like it took me like
eight weeks to learn that play, Like every day started
from two hours a day to four hours a day
to eight hours a day, and it just was like
incredibly draining. But I got through the task. And it
was like forty two people, forty two cast members. It

(42:54):
was musical and drama, musical or hip hop monologues created
around my album or pray I got two thumbs up
in the New York Times, the same thing that Cats
or Fellow. We're getting things like that. So it was
like it was a real situation off Broadway place.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
So maybe, yeah, I feel like that's an opportunity because
it honestly was I'm not even I talked to who
was I talking? I was talking to somebody the other
day that was in a play, and I was like,
you know, whose play was really good? And I felt
like people didn't get the opportunity to see it and
it was a long It was Jim Jones. I was
like that it was I think that would be a
good idea especially right now. I feel like this is

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the time.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
People need to do social media really right.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yes, that's how long ago it was.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's what if I had on social media, I would
have been.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Even aside from that though, just thinking about all the
things that you've invested in. You know, you say it's
it's a hustleist whatever, but it's entrepreneurship really because, like
we said earlier, words mattered to right, and so a
lot of what you've done has been based around that
and taking chances because entrepreneurship is also a risk, and
so sometimes things work and sometimes they don't. What is

(44:05):
the thing that has worked for you the most outside
of music?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
The things that work else Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
The most, Like financially that was for you outside of music.
What was the most successful thing that you've done that
you're like that was a home run?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Uh? Reality TV has always been a home run. M hm,
that's probably that was one of the And.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Even now they still calls like I know they do throwout.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
A million dollar dollar check like it ain't nothing like yo, three.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Days, would you do it again?

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah? I'm taking that.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
That male skill, so you are doing it?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
I mean yeah, I've.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Never turned to damn I've always so aggressive in doing
reality TV. That's what made it shaky for me. You know,
them people like you're digging. I was doing that kind
of on purpose and things like that. But now I
always jump back and get some of that cash. There's
nobody else who get on the camera and do what
we do. We are the originators of selling dysfunction. Everybody

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else after us is a carbon copy of what me
and my family created, I mean, including the show.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
And look at that and way later you and Christie
still together. So she just had her birthday, got that
g wagon, got that g wagon dragon hear. How do
you even decide what to buy Christy for her birthday?

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I tell her?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
She has to tell me, okay, I figured to.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Take it back, like no, I'm not jacking. You got
the receipt. You got the receipt, you know. She rude
like that, like, yo, bro, I told her that the
other day like that, when her friends brought her something.
She like, oh nah, that's you know. You got the receipt,
baby girl, because these yo, bro, you can't people are
buying you a gift. You say, it's the thoughts that.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Let she said, forget that thought. That thought is out
the window.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
I would think about what I.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Man, that's the baby girl, very strong, always been holding
me down for so many years. I mean I always
want to tip my hat to her.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
And you know what I mean people, I know people
always ask you about marriage.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Man is getting married?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Before I called him he's getting married him, he said,
you don't have the broad but yeah, he'srrieden.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Would you hook man who in one of her friends?
Why not? That's your boy, that's your brother.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I stopped doing that long time ago. I don't need
my niggas.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
It's just too close close.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
All of it.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
It's too much.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
There's too much, and then she'd be calling Christy like
is man.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Just too confused? It's just too much. It's just get it.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Yeah, but my marriageably, it was a maniac.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I wouldn't really hooking him up with anything.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
He's calming down.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
It's you helped him out with that, because I don't
know if that's.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
What he acts like it. I don't know reality. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
His workspaces. So when you're seeing me here, keep that
in mind. You heard we all got a job. He
can't be in the work.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
But he's very dead set on this marriage. Things like
he really, he has the date, he's got the cake,
he's got the suit, he's got the rings.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
All else feels you're just gonna walk down to your
whole feels.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
I'm gonna marry one.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
I'm gonna pick one from the marriage like I'm gonna
pick from the audience.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
From the audience. Where's the audience, whoever's coming to see
me get married? That's ridiculous, Not ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Think about it, but it's I'm gonna have me a
wife before then.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Lets stop playing and you never so you don't have
a prenup. Then I'm gonna have a bride before then.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Like you're making people think that this is not serious.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
It is serious. We're going to Carnival and we're gonna
find him tomorrow. So you know, yeah, he's gonna find someone.
I'm a help.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I'm going to do all them are yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Vacation by work? Are you gonna work?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I'm mad at you though I'm never gonna don't.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
I'm only going to want to work.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
You never want to come to adult going to the
crazy work.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I facetiming him when he was in dr growing games.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
I'm cool on that you.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Heard I made the mistake anything you go about for
forty dollars.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
It can't be that good.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
We don't shop.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
We don't shop at that store.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Oh you know it's a different story.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Stop it.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
About this ship like a sneakers.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
I mean, my.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
God, it beautiful.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
All right now, I want I want to question you
about some things that you've said in the past. A
couple of years ago, you said Drake is the greatest
of all time. Fire Okay, so that still stands.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Teddy girl, Summer.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Came back smashing your baby girl.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Say to Drake, what you really going to do with him?
He's changed the way that we.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Listen to music in the past ten years wholeheartedly, and
everybody that's been around, he's changed to help change their sound.
Also for all our favorite rappers. You name the top
rapper right now, he has helped them tremendously out in
their career by just jumping on a record or putting
them on a tour. You know. I mean like he's
done more for our culture than most of these people.

(49:26):
I mean, like, if you.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Think about it, Okay, No, I'm just asking because that
was a couple of years ago you said that, and sometimes,
you know, a lot has happened since then yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
I mean Michael Jordan lost games too, but we still
consider him to be the greatest, right you did, Like
if Kobe, if Lebron don't make it past and in them,
then would they be like Lebron is not the greatest,
no one, No, he's still the greatest. Don't change who
we are. It's just Drake shout out to Drizzy.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
All right now. Also, obviously you're a big boxing fan.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I mean I like boxing, I like fighting. I'm more
of a fighting fan, like I'm an aggressive person, so like, all.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Right, so there's a fight happening this weekend. Now, it's
not yet Devin Handy versus Ryan Garcia yet right there
in separate fights. But if they thought again, who do
you think will win.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Against?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Again? You think?

Speaker 2 (50:15):
So? Yeah, why you keep playing with that boy? That
boy really know how to box? He might be skitched
on crazy.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
And listen.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
And it's the thing I can't it's hard to give
your opinion out like I don't care about noon. You
see the other, You see the other boxing, like, oh
that's how you like Bron. I don't box at all.
We start stepping on hands and you don't want boxing.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
You're you feel differently.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I think that it would depend on I do. I
think it does depend I mean, there are a lot
of factors in that fight for who I think Devin
Handy got. I think he probably didn't take it as
seriously as you should have. And I think sometimes that
happens with boxers.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Get that was a great fight. It just didn't go
his way. That was a great fight though.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Yeah, and they're good fight and it still doesn't count him.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
He just didn't go his way. A good fight though. Yeah,
it's a good fight. I love that better Ryan one
hundred percent, so what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, but it also didn't count for him because you
gotta still fight within the rules of what it is
that you can ingest and all of the and the
weight he was above weight, you know, I think there's
a lot of things sometimes that was a.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Size that mar So that's why from a marketing from
a marketing standpoint, this is gonna be an even bigger,
greater fight for boxing for both of them.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
So I'm gonna just I mean, you know, I'm gonna
go Ryan. He's best, crazy, he's out of his mind.
I think that's working in his favor.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
But one day because because because I'm a super boxing fan.
One thing is this though Devin continuously drops his right
hand and Ryan continuously beats him with that left hooker.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Nothing else. He gotta find.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
You gotta be able to find to stop that, stop
that left and stop dropping that right hand.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
A boxing commentator, they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Give you a shot your applications one of these the box.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
But that nigga needs to get funked up.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Oh my gosh, Okay, you need.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
We need you know we need.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Uh he got it.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Did your own sports.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
It's not only this box is still it's still sports.
I have something for you box.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
I have some and we can do that.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Because I want to fight fighting only fighting a fight
a fight, I'll do that. We can do that all fight,
all year.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
No listen, I'm gonna get you on the team combat
we can.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Do we can do like a like a boxing combat.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
What's that team combat league? Oh? You all love this
because they're okay, So it's a new league. It's only
a couple of years old. So it's a team sport.
And everybody has one minute to fight in the ring
and then they tag the next person comes in, so
you have one minute to win. So they give it
their all for that one minute, for those sixty seconds.
But it's a whole team. So it's like New York
versus Philly, say, versus.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Ring at the same time.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
No, it's one at a time, but each person has
one minute, yeah, and then the next. So it's team. No,
it's boxing.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
It's women.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, but they go hard for one minute and they
have women's and men's and the women go hard to
I'm gonna show it to you, but that might be
something because that's a you know, something they're really looking
to promote. So I think we're gonna get you on that.
We're gonna get you know. Let I would say this,
Jim is gonna have some ideas for you. If he
sit with somebody for an hour, he's gonna come to

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you with a couple of.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Different ideas every forty seconds.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I know we went to go when we went to
do lip service on Justin Le Boy's show, and y'all
had all the food there for us, and I was like, dang,
y'all got you know. He was like, look, I just
made a call and I told them we were, you know, filming.
Let me you want me to tell them when you
feel me your They should be catering your stuff too.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
I was like, damn, this nigga, this, this nigga said, Yo,
let's shoot the video or I'll be on our way
to the studio before.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
The word is we should shoot the video right now.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
And you've been doing that too. Everything is a movie.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
I've been but I've been.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I've been dropping the video every week since.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
My album came One came out yesterday.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
What that has done for my algor dreams and algorithm
old monk God. So that was another thing that I've
watched these youngsters doing continuously. You got to show attention
span and like they want to see new ship, new
ship and new ship.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
And it's a numbers. It's a numbers.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
It helps your algorithm and helps you drop. Yes, it
gets your algorithm.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Going, Yes, I gotta do better.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yes. YouTube Spotify was thirty thirty something songs on my album, right,
So if I do, if I do a record, almost
that twenty videos half I mean, so it's like all
of them is a million multimillion plus with all that
adds up. So now I get to two hundred three
hundred million streams quick. That's a that's a check that's

(55:15):
gonna come every month. And then you dropping another album
and you drive a whole stool all videos.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
And Lobby Boys album coming soon.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Lobby Boys Album's coming soon. Yeah, I can't wait for
that record that we got with Lola to come out.
We got a record with Lola that you let you
hear that record? No, he did? You don't let you
hear that recket?

Speaker 4 (55:33):
You heard that?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Oh? Yes I did? Okay, Yes, I forget.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I think that should be the first single it is.
I think that should be the very first single out
the box. Summertime. I think I think that's it. I
think I think I think.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
We got it, got it, they got it coming off
for everything else Niggas is doing.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
It is a nice summertime sounding song. And then you
also have the Broken Spanglish album.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Broken Spanglish, Shout the Shout, the Flock Shots the Junior
to where I record my Spanish music up and up
and Dykeman and on the facilities and it's dope man,
it's uh. Flock's son Junior been helping me do this
album for the past two years. Some change he's been
doing since he's been in high school. So now he's
graduated high school.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
He got to school already.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Shots, the yo man shots, the high tolerance shots. Everybody
I think it's dope.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Should challenge yourself in that way too, because that's something
different for you.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
And it's a crash course on learning Spanish. I've learned
so much Spanish from sitting there and creating music with
these people. You know, I know very minimal Spanish. I
understand a little bit. I'm FM New York, and yes
I am in Puerto Rican, but that doesn't mean that
I know Spanish. But I've learned more Spanish in this
past two years by creating this album and in my
whole life. So and it's a dope experience to sit

(56:47):
there and break it down and and turn my English
into Spanish and make it sound cohesive and and the
dialect of it too. You got to learn the jays
and all.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I mean, he's gonna have a low die lit this
lit on fire load.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Lit, definitely on fire, definitely going for that diatman fire.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Now listen, you also on this album though, let's get
back to this album. You got Trinidad James on here
and that's an a dope song. How to Go and
he's pretty fashionable too, I have to.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
He has his own style. His style is unique.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, so tell me how that even happened, because I
felt like Trinidad James. I've been hearing it buzzing that
he's like, you know, doing some more stuff now.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Well, I know school and I did the show a
couple of times. He's been to the studio a few times.
He done some records from my artists, and we end
up doing a record one night, and I was like, damn,
this is kind of hard. I ended up kept it
on my album, but I didn't put the whole record
on the album, and now we're gonna shoot the video
to the whole record. I'm kind of on the beast.

(57:56):
On the Deluxe album, I did that with a lot
of the records there. I put about seven records out
with one verse on there on purpose so that I
could fill it in and give people a whole video
with artists that they didn't hear and see the record
or nothing like that.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
So I always doing something different, and even putting this
many songs on an album. People aren't doing that it
deluxe though.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yes, the Deluxe is two albums, but it's the numbers game.
Like I said, all that helped me out, and I'm
excited about this project. I put it. I ain't gonna lie, and.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
It sounds really good. I have to say, Like for
me listening to it, it gives me like a well,
it has the I feel a little bit of like
the newer type of sound that we have in New York.
But then it also has nostalgic feels to it and
some of the songs too. Even sometimes I tell Mano
Wu Tang, it gives me a little bit of a Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I'm a Wu Tang baby. All my music is everything
all mixed up in one, from my age category to
the New York News everything that's all my music been about.
I don't never really change the sound of my music.
I mean, tweak it a little bit and things like that,
but the story remains the same of what we go
through and things like that. But it's just I'm a

(59:13):
New York baby. I'm not going nowhere else. I make
New York music. I make nigga music. You heard, but
pardon me. I got a few bops on here for
the ladies this and that was what I was most
proud of that most of my music is aggressive and
talk about all the hard things that we go through
and we got to hustle and things like that. But
I had a lot of bops for the ladies this
time on these projects, so and that made me smile

(59:34):
just to see people female posting on my music and
things like that.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
That's dope, new Man and new Jomo, you know what
I'm saying. Look at y'all, both of you guys. Who
would have thought you guys have been like, Okay, let
me just you know, count ten backwards in my head
before I go off on somebody.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
You won't grow. You won't know to you grow. That's
my new mantra. You won't know to you bro.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
And I had to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I remember who you are today one hundred per one
hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Thinking about how differently you handle things now than how
you used to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Oh yeah, I've kept myself out out of out of
a lot of trouble this year and the past year
and a half, I will say two years. Like just
my decision making has been way better than it's ever been.
I don't I don't always get it right, you know
what I mean. But for the most part, I've been
working on me continuously every day. When I wake up
like thinking about it, Like, yo, bro, don't don't crash out.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
I got some ship, right, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Got some they're trying to trick you, like they're trying
to trick you. They trying to trick you.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
We don't have to have two hour conversations while I talk.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Sometimes I need it, like like the day, like the
day all the all the all of the shit happened
in the media of cam and all that type of
ship like, oh yeah, kind of woke up, yeah, Chris,
He was like, damn, that's your phone. Then out for

(01:01:00):
a little while, bro, go back to sleep or something.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Bro, it's cool out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Don't wake up and go on a tangent like you
usually do. You wanna fuck everything up. And I'm like, damn,
you're absolutely right. These niggas are soft, but you're damn
sure right. And that's what I had to do. I
had to figure out how to find that spot inside
of me to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Be like you, figure out, ain't nothing cooler than being
alive out here, getting to your opportunity and getting money
and and living and seeing your your your your kids flourished.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
M But it was the best.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
It was the best thing I could do because it
was never been done before for me, Like, you know,
I never was able to figure that out.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
But that ship was like you forward.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
When I you know what I mean, when I did
it and I started seeing ship reverse, I'm like, oh
my god, was this twenty years ago? Like like yo,
Like damn, it was like Yo, all right, maybe maybe
this might be the new thing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
But you know, if you wouldn't have did that twenty
years ago, then the documentary wouldn't be what it's gonna be,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
But you're just thinking, like yo, like I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Meant stories to tell the crash I got a bunch
of crashes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
That's the title right there, crashes.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Movie crash man. But I feel good, dude, life is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Good man, you know. And a lot of people wait
in just like when that was happening, people were like
they've been friends for so long, they always you know,
get into it and then they make up. Why didn't
they call each other and discuss these you know this
before they took things public. I even saw people like
I saw Carmelo Anthony talking about it on his podcast.
I saw everybody kind of weighing and having things to say.

(01:02:48):
And I think the general consensus is people think that
at some point, because this has happened in the past,
y'all have gone at it. But you know, families are
cool with each other. Like, you know, people do think
that at some point it's going to be a reconciliation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Yeah, let them think. I mean, you know, I got
other shit to do. Like like I've been telling people,
I'm focused on me right now. I got time to
becclad right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
And you look, sometimes friendships aren't meant to last. You know,
it don't have to be the end of the world.
You ain't got to crash out either.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
No, I'm not gonna crash It ain't worth it. Man.
One thing we never did was pick on people. You
know what I mean that can't I can't stand up
for theirselfs. And I ain't gonna do that. Man. Is
I do know the truth, you know what I mean?
And I think they know the truth. To sugar, get heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Man, or you got into it too. Somehow your name
came up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Into it and all that. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
The thing is this you now they talked about when
me and him had our disagreements or whatever, right when
we didn't know each other and we ain't like each other.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Right, But and I clarify that, and I really my
whole thing was that his initial issue with me was
over cam to begin with, because I came out with
a lot of energy and I was saying what I
wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Say, right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
But what I told him down Atlanta is that we
could have been we could have been adversaries, but figured
out that we was it was better as allies. So
that's what happened. Nothing happened. Nothing never happened.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I said, think that's a good example for people.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
That should be commended Black men coming together. That should
be you got you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Got idiots like that that change the narrative on what
should be saluted because they never they never been in
situations like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Way worse could have been, Like that should be saluted.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
That should be looked at as like that's something to
do because when you as much as we talk about
a million times, Yeah, nothing right here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
For my life, for my life, nigga, right here, Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
I got from my back up, nigga. You heard, So.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
What niggas be seeing for the nigga? That was my job,
you heard.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
I didn't expect it, nigga, That's why I took the job.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
You donna see what I'm saying. That was my job.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Nigga did that because that's what I needed to do
to get the fuck out where I was at.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
Nigga, I knew the position I took.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
You heard.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
Everything was about what I needed to get done.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
At the end of the day, man, but these niggas
ain't built for and they know what I'm built for.
You heard, and God bless me, you had his hand
on me this whole journey of Marus you heard, because
I really escaped some shit unscathed. You heard.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
And I think the also misperception was that you started
rapping way later, but you actually were on camera on
his first album.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Helped him write every one of his albums, every one
of his albums from his first album to maybe up
to the first that album he did after Diplomat, like
Come Home with Me, his album he did.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
On he was on the first one, Jimmy right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Yeah, And I always know how to rap, but I
doesn't know how to rap good. But I always knew
how to the bars. I always knew you did you dig?
So it's like, but yeah, I help that man write
all his music, not to say it like that you did.
He's an incredible artists. He's super small and ship like that.
But when you were to making ours and stuff like that,
I was there when he come to Jimmy. It was
like me too, but you did like I mean, what

(01:06:36):
I've seen in life is that when you put in
positions like that, people get nervous when they see you
don't need them no more, when you don't need them
to eat anymore, when you can do this all on
your own without them, it becomes chilling. And instead of
lifting that up, people try to tear me down. And

(01:06:58):
I'm not a person that you could hear down that easy.
You know what I meant. I got a cold soul, man,
and I've been protected by high power. So everything has
already been laid out for me in life, no matter
what I want through. And that's the problem. They ain't
God faring, You're her. I bring these people to church
they first time, and these people even been to church,
Like I've done a lot for this whole shit. Man.

(01:07:20):
When I get a chance to write a book, it's
gonna be a dope, best part felt book.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
And that's gonna be crazy because.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I ain't here to get points. I ain't here to
look better than anybody. I ain't here to be like
I'm perfect. I'm not better than nobody. I did a
bunch of wild shit and a bunch of shit that
people look at like, I'm not perfect at all at all.
I ain't trying to make people have a decision to say, oh,
I'll fuck with here more than I don't really care
about it. I'm telling my truth about the situation. So
when people get involved, I can understand that because we've
done things for in this game that people grew up

(01:07:46):
to from high school on, Like we've helped people mold
they life as far as who they gonna be. But
I listened to our music and get into what they
had to get to and shit like that, So I
can understand the complexity of how people feel when they
look at us and shit like that. Nobody don't know
the inside and in announce and shit like that. And
it's not just about me and him, It's about the
whole thing, you know what I mean, Like, you got
people like Juells that deserve to been treated a lot

(01:08:09):
better in our journey and shit like that, But he
has a chance to tell his own truth and shit
like that, and I choose not to talk about that
because I know it's very dear. It's hard, but it's
a big, big, big It's way bigger than what you
could what you could see. And I commend him for
figuring out how to do something else. I mean, they
doing uh, sports shows and shit like that. Cool. They
always been comedians and shit like that. They never really

(01:08:31):
been in the turf like that. Like, I'm happy for them.
They get into a bag, stay to your bag. You're
heard you're getting so much money, then you shouldn't be
concerned about nothing else. Shouldn't be worried about nothing else,
especially not me. Please leave me out your mouth. You're
hurt that I'm cool. I ain't got no problems with nobody.
I'm getting to a major bag. I feel very good
right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
All of this feels. I gotta understand the title of
the album.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I'm close close to God now. Yeah, I feel good though,
Like y'all, I just want to tell people that's not
what this is all about. Man, Like I'm happy to
be where I'm at, you know, I mean, like people
would be like, yo, don't bite the family and feed you.
He never fed me. I fed myself. No, I'm not
an artist that was my partner, right you did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Everybody's an independent asset.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
No, I mean it's deeper than that. That was my partner,
like people get it twisted like that was my partner,
like partner, like we was in that ship together, like
you did. Like I just took the role of the
person that was under him so he can be who
we needed to be. You heard. I just know how
to play my position and wait my turn.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Get well on that note, man, know, and I have
to go find his wife.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Absolutely, please please do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
We will be like we'll be at the church steps
with her soon enough. I'm not I'm gonna help.

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
And right before you, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
If you don't have if you don't have a lady
at your wedding, I'm not coming. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
You mean, if there's no person, there is no person.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
But by then it's going to be a person.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
A robot A I A I lady.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
That's almost as ludicrous as saying that Harlem as.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Kingdom out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Why are you mad? Are you mad?

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Because bed stars not the kingdom.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
That would be more of a kingdom, but at least
best stars in the city be the Harlem of Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Nobody's ever said that this is what I'm saying, you're
coming up with this, with these made up words, with
these with this made up slang, with this made up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
John made up even asked aid, no the first word. No,
oh yeah, one more thing, yes, change. Oh my gosh,

(01:10:55):
let me find give him his chamber, everything like a
little kid. You know, you got to stop for real,
you gotta stop.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Oh my god, oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
They let him know. Who knows where that chain is?

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
That viral right, it's way up, way up.