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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's happens way up with Angela? Ye, and look who's back.
A lot has changed since the last time that Joe
Boy was here.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
How you feeling, young Legend, young Boss?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes, som good, I'm good. I feel good. I feel great. No,
I'm actually tired.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I've been You've been on the road and you've been
taking long flights.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So you did a tour that started in Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, Australia, Australia, we did Europe and we've done a
couple of dates.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And those time zones will kill you too.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, you know, I feels like two three times.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
How was Australia? I've never been there.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's beautiful. That's actually somewhere I can't decide to go
set to down.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow, are you telling you you would move to Australia?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I would. Actually there's one particularity already, like Perth. Like
it's just it's not like you're missing out anything as
well developed like this fun stuff to do. The weather
is nice.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I heard the women are beautiful in Australia too. I've
definitely heard that.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
How long is that them?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
From Legos?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay from legos. It took us like three flights, so
i'd say about two days.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's commitment.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah yeah, so how was it? What did you learn
from all this? And the reason I call you young
Legend is because you now are on your own label.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes, young legend, that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And you're only what twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I just clip twenty like how many days ago?
Like ten days ago?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
What, happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Let me see what sign is that?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Gemini? Oh? Yeah, white people always give me that when
I say I'm Germinine.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like Gemini for being like multiple personalities is that bad thing?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, I wouldn't even say multiple personality. I think we
just mirror, mirror mirror, based on kind of energy we
get from people.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Okay, I will say this. There's like good geminis.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And evil ones.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah I'm the good one.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're the good one hopefully okay, innocent.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But anyway, so talk to me about what that's like
for you now, just being your own boss but also
being responsible for other people.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, i'd see, I'd see. It's really like brought out
a different level of discipline for me because now I know,
I know, like it's not just about me anymore, like
like there's like there's a there's a number of people
that I have to always like think about when I'm
making decisions and all of that. So it's given me
more sense of responsibility. So I don't see that as
even the bad thing. I think it's definitely helped me
(02:18):
to become a better person in all aspects of my life.
Like I'm reading books now, I'm doing accounts, like, so
it's not just me just focusing on the music and
all of that. I'm actually like growing as a person too.
So yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How many artists do you have? Science?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, so right now we have just one person that
we're working with. His name is King Vidar. I was very,
very talented and it's going to come up and I
can't wait for the world to see.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How did you find it?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I mentioned through one of my closest producers, bits back
Kill was about four years ago. I was about four
years ago, and we've been talking and he sends me
his music and I just really really believe in the
story and like you let's work together. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, it is a little scary too when you have
other people, because you know some artists. It's hard to
sign to one other artists. People will tell you that,
but it also can be the biggest benefit.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Somebody who knows what you're going through. It can open up.
It's a different type of conversation.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, because I was also signed to an artist, it's easy. Yeah, yeah,
you know, and I got I got to learn a lot,
I got to learn a lot, I got to understand
the game. And yeah, I think it just gives you
a better level of understanding as a liberal owner too,
because you can see things from both perspectives as a
liberal exec and also as an artist, so it helps
you balance it out.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It's interesting because even when your career took off, you
managed to finish school first. Yeah you know, do you
think school helped you with doing what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Definitely, because now now I'm not understanding the importance of
the course I studied that studied industrial relations and personal management.
So now I know to like talk to people, deal
with people on the business side. So now becoming an
exec on the side so has helped me bring what
I learned to the forefront. So yeah, definitely did. And
I'm just happy that that things took off immediately after
(03:58):
I finished school.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Like I finish school, Made Everybody twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Nineteen and Baby drops and the first Victor single drop Down. Yeah,
it was like perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And that's crazy because even it's interesting when people put
out a first single but you don't know what they
look like necessarily and it really did take off, did
you know, which is also a rare thing to happen.
Usually people are like constantly, was that the first Like,
what's the first song you ever did?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay, the first song I ever did? Uh? That was
officially that was baby Girl. That was twenty seventeen. That
was twenty seventeen. Yeah, that was the first song I
ever did. Then I started putting all covers after that.
Then I had one song with mister Easy Faji. Then
after Fiji was Baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How do you think that development was like for you?
Because before a baby came out and then being signed
to an artist, and sometimes you could be impatient too,
like why is this not doing what I wanted to do?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Right away?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, that feel also comes in because
like when we dropped the song. When I dropped the
song with mister Easy, it wasn't even like it was
doing well. It was doing well. But it just wasn't
the to a songs. But you got me access to
the industry and me, I was very very patient. I
was just I just knew that was gonna happen. It
was just a matter of time as long as I
stayed consistent, you know. But yeah, I'm human. Sometimes you
feel like the should be more than this she gave me.
(05:12):
But I really really believe in taking regardless of results.
So I just kept moving.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And its pain off because it's something that you love
to do.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, I definitely yo. Like the reason I start making
music was because I was just so excited about the
idea of being able to create something. That was why
that's what that was why I start making music. I
wasn't doing this for old fame or whatnot. But I'm
happy because everything there's aligned for good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I've seen you even say with the video for Baby,
you were like, I didn't even want to.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Be Yeah, I was just like, there's just let's just
do animation, and easy was like, nah, man, you're gonna
go out there.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You gotta let people see what you look like.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Sometimes it's a big unveiled too, because I think it's interesting.
There's been a few artists who have come out and
we have no idea like who is this, what do
they look like? Sometimes even like I like with Santigo
when she first came out. She's a good friend of
mine and she was an artist back then where she
was doing kind of like a rock type of sound.
But she's black, And sometimes people categorize you based off
(06:08):
of also where you're from or yeah, and so sometimes
if people could just hear the music, it shouldn't even matter.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, definitely, definitely, And I'm happy that people like got
to love me for the music even before then you
know how I look like or what it was, and
it just really helps you like clearly really cool fans
without doing too much.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
But the ladies do like you, So that's a class.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's a lady.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
How have you been dealing with that?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I mean, listen the new album Viva la Vida sounds
like you're having a good time. Viva Lavida means kind
of basically living your life.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, living life, giving free, And that's the space because
I'd say when I started off, you know, it was
like unfamily on Terry Tree. I was a bit like,
oh should I do this? Should I do this? Like
always like just sometimes I think in steps, you know,
by disappoint I'm definitely way more confident and I just
just stuff that really like resonates me, and I push
(07:02):
you to the best of my ability, And I say,
that's one of the most beautiful points you can be
as a creative for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Even thinking about like you start the song off with innocent. Yeah,
do you feel like a lot of things that you've
been through right now have made you not be able
to be so innocent?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Dred percent, Like, like it's been six years. I've been
six years in the forefront of like of like afrobeach music,
And yeah, it definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Exposes you to a lot, but you also don't want
to lose that type of like letting things happen and
trusting it and believing it, because sometimes the more you've
been through, the more your walls are up. Yeah, yeah,
able to accept and like how do you even say, Okay,
this person likes me for who I am?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, So I try to like be observant of like
people's energies, you know, Like, and I just like focus
on actions down words because people can't say anything, you know,
but from the actions, you can't really tell your intentions.
So I just like to see things from an action
based perspective. So that really helps me. By the end
of the day, I can't remind.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
At least at least I can more intentions or.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Intentions, but we keep it going as it goes.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, what for you, what are your like when you
think about what you want when it comes to not
just business but also and a partner.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
What are the things that you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'd see somebody that just understands the kind of person
I am. Somebody that also like wants more for themselves
so we can also like push each other. And somebody
does a mind of their own, like they don't do
things just because of valuational how they want to be seen.
And and so I'd say I don't really really have
like the speck, I don't have spec if our energies aligned.
(08:40):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting to me because even you just
you know, Streets are Lonely. That's another song that's on
the project that People, and I really like that song too.
So where did that come from and what was your mindset?
What was going on with you when you Streets are
lonely because they are people be like Angela, you do
not want to be back Saturday streets.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's not easy, yeah, because it's true the streets are
only say its situations where maybe any relationship and sometimes
it seems like, oh you can have like you can't
get better outside or whatnot. But that's just saying the
grass is green where you water, you know. So like
as long as it's somebody that you're with and you
know you guys are willing to make things work out,
(09:22):
just like try to make it work, you know, instead
of just like moving onto the streets because, like I said,
streets sometimes. Yeah, but for me at that point where
I don't think I'm missing out anything anymore. I think I've.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Experienced twenty eight just twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I'm telling you, I think I've experienced experience on the streets.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
No, I just want to I need that crazy what's
a what's a good street story? Boy?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
A good street story? Should I really go into detail? Please?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
We want to hear this?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Come on? Yes? Yeah, So definitely I've met a lot
of like, like really really great people. We've had a
lot of fun like stuff like just like because I
like to travel, I like to travel.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You don't have a choice, yeah, And I do look,
I actually enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I enjoy it. So you could just like to say, okay,
let's let's go to some country and nobody can, can't
know where I am, just pack up bags, go and
just leave like normal people and just have fun. I say,
that's that's one of like the memories I remember when
I was.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's a benefit because you get into the when you
get into the money, you can be.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like, yeah, just your passport, Yeah, let's go, let's go.
And me like, I got to meet a lot of
people that well, my wea've learned too that love to travel.
So I'm like, let me fly you.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
There's no woman that doesn't love to travel. I just
want to put that out there. Who doesn't.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
What woman is going to if you tell her pack
your bags, let's go.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, it was all that way around. Like sometimes they
tell me like you are you free, let's go? Okay,
Like you give me a year, that's fun.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So if you were gonna say you met somebody and
you wanted to say pack your bags, that's trap. But
where would you pick to go if you wanted to
impress somebody on the first trip?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Let me see? Let me see has to be said Lucia.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh okay, say Lucia.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Lucia is vibes, vibes. I really enjoyed that. The weather,
the fact that it's closed to the water, the son
is out, the food is the food is good, not
as good as Nigerian food.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Dope, but you gotta put that out.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's amazing because if you think about it, just think
like six years ago, there's so many places in your
passport is stamped up.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know, like I've had three passports so far on
your field up the field up. Yeah, I have to
get a foot on soon. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Are you documenting all this?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Definitely? Definitely. I have like so so my phones and
ends on my birophone. I make sure I buy like
one terrriby space. So so I'm just recording and I
don't posted it. I'm always recording, taking content and I
just like keep them. I'm going to put out. I'm
definitely going to put out like a documentary for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's gonna be dope. Yea, So Viva la Veda.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You've said that this is your best album to date,
and first of all, I want to just as a disclaimer,
I feel like every artist going to say that about
their latest project.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
No one's like yeah, but still I want to know
why you say that, Yeah, because this was the one
I say I really really just I really really enjoyed
making because I got to experiment a lot, you know,
So from as a creator, as a creative, this is
my favorite album means yeah, my favorite album means yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Is it hard to and I know people say this
all the time, but to have had huge hits? I
mean I was looking at one hundred and seventy two
million views on YouTube alone already. Yeah, one hundred and
seventy two million. And by the way, there's other versions
of it now.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, visualize that there's a lyric videos like forty to
fifty m Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And so that's something that is a unicorn in itself.
That is not something that most people will accomplish. So
when you're making music, what is like, do you put
pressure on yourself to say, how am I going to
outdo what I've done in the past?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No, absolutely no, I think I think that's a slippery slope.
And you can also like cause a creative blok for
you if you're always trying to recreate the last major
thing you did. Because while I was making that song,
I wasn't thinking that way. I was just creating, And
I know that as long as you keep creating, you
always like put out amazing stuff. Some might not do
(13:18):
the same numbers as your big ones, but as long
as like it's like a story, like a story, you
just keep it moving and just keep it going. At
the end of the day, I made those songs like
it's me, so I just have to keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
What's your baby on this album?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'm gonna say that I love the video and the
song Taxi Driver and the whole idea behind that.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What would you say is your baby on this album?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
My baby on this album is definitely Mark Darling Marc Daarlin,
because I'd say, I'd say I've not done that Temple
in a Sect that kind of like upbeat kind of
Temple in a Sect. And the song really really like
tested me when we're creating me, I like really like
challenge yeah, and challenge myself, you know. So i'd say
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mc Darlene, And I'm happy with the way it came out,
and I'm happy that is finally how the people are
loving it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
How did that come about? As far as the creation
of it, since there was something different for you Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So shout out to Temple Temples. Temple is producer, you
also produced them.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Sip Yeah, Temple is Guy's my guy.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah. And whenever I would started to create something, there's
one thing that we always like align like, okay, we
need to do something different. That's the way we create,
just me on Temple, like we always like decide on
doing something different that it's not like on the current
wave or soundscape. And it was like, you know what,
let's go this direction. And it was so funny because
(14:33):
I was thinking about the sound already, like you really
want to try something in the big Middle Eastern and
with like some Indian influences on it. And it was
like you have one particular demo for you and you
played the beat for mc daalen and we just said
to make it work.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's done.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And it is nice to see because I feel like
a lot of these songs have a different sound like
in itself standing alone, even the summer all LAMI day. Yeah,
that's a nice different type of sound too. That's a
great collapse and posting the shout out Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, but it was actually but it was actually the
one that that influenced that song. Because he sent me.
He sent me the instrumental, like you, Joe, let's do
something like this, Like people have not heard you do
something like this. Let's do this together. So you did
a lot of experimental Yeah, definitely this album. This is
actually my most experimental album. For sure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You felt like being a boss.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And having traveled also so much internationally was a big influence.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Definitely because as at the time I was making a
constituable month of the album, I was doing shows in
like Northern Africa and Arabian side. We had to show
in Saudi Arabia, I had showing Qatar Are, the show
in Dubai, at the show in India.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah. So so like everywhere, yeah, and everywhere I go,
I'm always like checking out the music. I speak to
people that are what kind of music do you guys?
Listen to? What was really the current sound? And I see,
I think that's the beauty of making music, like being
dynamic enough. And thankfully I'm blessed and privileged to travel,
so it's really right there. Top from different cultures.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Going back to a taxi driver. Seeing you as a
taxi driver was actually quite interesting and it also makes
me think because I think I take ubers like multiple
times a day, and sometimes the driver can be very
chatty with me, you know, sometimes like people have literally
usually see the other way around when you're a passenger,
you know, you're having conversations. But even in the video
(16:23):
you could see people are going through some things.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Like everybody, like everybody goes through some stuff Like I
don't think it's anybody that just has like a jolly
good life, no thought.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
To make.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That's when you're really slump in.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're on your way home. You're
just looking outside and your feeling. So I just I
just decided to make a song regarding that because I
know everybody currently because everybody at some point has been
in a taxi.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah no, everybody, And everybody sat there and had a
bad day.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Ye sit there and think about it while they're in
the in the car.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I've had literal cab drivers like talk to me about
One guy felt so bad for him. He met a
woman online and he was sending her money and she
was clearly never meeting up with him, right she was.
She kept saying, Oh, I just need some money, I'm
gonna come. He flew to Mexico to go on vacation.
She did not show up.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He was telling me all his business like, and I
was like, sir, you have to stop sending this woman.
He was older, you know, so sometimes like with older people,
they really because this scammon stuff is out of control
right now when it comes to dating and everything. I
was like, sir, you have to stop sending this woman money.
It's really bothering. Like I don't know you, but it's
bothering me, like to not know this is not happening
for you. He flew to Mexico, she didn't show up,
(17:34):
and he still was sending her money, damn.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
But also about like just being in a taxi and talking,
like it's just really good to just have like a
free out feel conversation with somebody that you might not
see again.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And who has no idea who you are exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Just makes you more honest. Yeah I'm more expressive.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yah, So yeah, cause who can you talk to now?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Because sometimes you also have to think, like I don't
want to end up having my business. We've seen so
many things happen in this business, in this industry.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, And it just feels good to just
like be able to express yourself or I like trust
the people that can't talk to that won't take like
your feelings or whatever you're going through and use it
against you.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Now, there's also some very I would say as far
as this album, we know you have a background in
church and everything, and you never let you always make
sure that's something that you pay a mass to as well,
like on a song like hey father, can you talk
about that and why that is so important to you
for people who are listening, because I feel like you always,
(18:31):
no matter what it is, you still are who you are.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You're not trying to like adjust to you know, being.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Lit or yeah yeah yeah wild yeah. So like I say,
I decided I've decided to like.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Today too.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah yeah yeah, oh yeah. So for me, I say,
God has always been like a very important factor in
my life. Like whenever I'm going through stuff, I just
pray on my mind. I get clarity and calmer, you know,
Like there's a situation I'm going to and I feel
like I'm overwhelmed. When I pray, I feel better, you know,
And I just really like it makes me. I'm just
(19:09):
happy that I go exposed to that, to that part
of spirituality. Shout to my parents, out to my family.
And it's really helped because because in this industry is
very very vulatile, it can get very very intense and
you look to different vices to just like overcome me,
like drugs and all of that. And I say, drugs
just slippery slope. It's not something I won't ever want
(19:30):
to get into. And I'd say being spiritual and praying
helps me like not focus on those other aspects because
you know, it's the industry get exposed to so much.
You get exposed to so much, and you're going through
something you might just want to just you know, just
like get lead. So I can't forget about my emotions
and feelings. But for me, praying and just like being
(19:51):
spiritual really helps me just like overcome that. And that's
why God will always be an important factor in my life.
And like I said, I like to make music about
things that I believe in, and so every album, every project,
I always have to talk about God on like one
or two songs.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, that's the fact, because even the song sip, it's
kind of like you're you're not just having a sip,
but you're awesome like talking analyzing.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, Lord, save me, don't I lost my conscience, like
you know, like I just like I don't want to.
I always say that I'm going to finish this game,
like this game of music or this carrier with my
soul intact. I'm not going to end my career and
I'm not going to retire and now be damage or
something because of our all the industry can be. I've
always said that when I love that, I always made
(20:33):
a promise to myself before I started making music, like
like I'm not going to lose my soul to this
because I've seen I see so many people like at
the end of the day when they're doing all they
said and don't like they're not happy. Even with all
the money, all the fame and all that, they're still
not happy. They just they still don't feel fulfilled. I'm like, no,
that's not going to be me.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Listen, we every day covering this Diddy trial. Do you
Is that like a big type of a conversation internationally? Yeah, yeah,
it's everywhere they talk about it.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No, No know that news is that news is everywhere,
Like as long as you're involved in the entertainment scenes everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's a good warning right there. Like when you see
something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And you like whatever, regardless of whatever happened. I can
never see like Joe Boyce.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Showing up to that's not that can't be me, you know.
Like I said, like I don't feel like I'm missing
out on anything. If I go somewhere, I feel like
the energy is off. I'm out.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So what is fun for you?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Fun for me? Yo? Fun for me is like eye
energy stuff like I love like stuff that makes my
heart jump, skydiving, sky diving, bungee jumping, chara gliding, jet skiing,
That's my kind of stuff. Like I could travel like
the long time we went to Surya, went to sura
and and we just decided going to the jungle.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Wow, like like an a doulte like to experience all
of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, that's so. Those are things I love to do
and I love to read a lot to I read
every day.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Ready, What are your favorite types of books? I love
like autobiographies and biographies the most.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, so for me right now is biographies of like
like very very powerful and famous people that I really
really like just want to know your story?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Does it make you think about telling your own story?
Like one day you're going to put.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Something I'm going to do that. I'm just like making
sure I'm keeping everything down so that I can always
go back. And that's why I also I also decide
to not do jokes, so I want to remember everything.
I don't want things to be a blur. I want
to remember every single thing. When I'm like sixty seventy,
I can talk about what into me like forty years back.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
He can so nose shrooms or nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Nothing nothing. Worst case is like just.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Some wine it, you know, me, just on a simple
little wine, have a good time. I feel you on
that because it's also scary. You don't know if you'll
try something.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And then yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to find out.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Right, Listen, they raised you right at home.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I want to tell you shout out to my parents
for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
All Right, So when you think about this new label,
like we talked about earlier, that's a big responsibility. So
what is the goal, Like what do you see happening
with young legend? Because again, people will tell you, like
the music business is a tough one to break into.
And it's not just the music that makes money now, right,
it's also you've got to figure out other streams of income.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So how is your business structured?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, so so for me, I I like my business manager,
have like my team that owns the day to day
of everything, so like there's not too much pressure on
me to show up every day sometimes because there's people
that just different stuff. So there's a structure. So for
label Young Legend, I wanted to be like, like, the
plan is for it to be a very very big
(23:32):
entertainment label that not just focuses on music, definitely going
to delve into like movies, into festivals, into parties, into
like different events that I just like that just revolves
around entertainment, so it's not just the music. And I'm
already putting steps in place to make that, to make
that like to make that happen, you know. And i'd
(23:53):
say Young Legends like my ten year twenty year projects,
you know, like, and I'm just happy I'm starting really
really young and we're just building gradually gradually. It's not
something I'm not delusion. I'm not going to say, well
I'm delusional. Sometimes it works, yeah, but I'm not just
gonna say, oh, I want your learn to be the
biggest labeled tomorrow or next year.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You're not gonna be tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But yeah, yeah, you never know. Yeah, you know, you
never know. So for me, I just like I like
to like, what are things like creating and building like
a strong for relation to be able to carry whatever
like moments or wins that we have and we can't
extend it and make the legacy. So that's so I'm
just making sure I'm doing the groundwork. Now, I'm learning,
(24:32):
I'm reading books, I'm taking advice from people I see
as mentors and just building from there.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So it's been the biggest challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You think the biggest challenge is let me see, let
me see, let me see being able to What was
our biggest challenge? Yeah, to keep evolving. Yeah, that's the question. Yeah,
because the game is so I think one of the
biggest challenges is being like being ahead of the cove,
(25:01):
making sure I head of the cove because it's like,
oh this thing. You know, there was points where all
you have to do is like push your music on DSP's.
Now he went to TikTok. Now TikTok is not really
working like we used to. Now everybody's looking for the
next means and markets, and so it's just about like
learning and looking for patterns that we can used to
grow to say, yeah, evolving for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
All right, well listen, best of luck to you with everything,
and congratulations on an amazing album to thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Thank you so much, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I always appreciate you for coming through because having me. Yeah,
I know you're busy.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I know you've been on to it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I know you had shows last night. What what's coming
up next? Like immediately?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Okay, so in two days for traveling back to the UK.
I have a show in Manchester on the fifth on
the seventh, on the seventh of June, and then we
have London. Yeah, that's the next two days, next two days.
Then we going to Canada.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
After Oh wow, you're not stuff stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I'm still on the roof for like two more months.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, thank you so much for coming by every single time.
And and your new artists are ready.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I'll bring them and I'll bring them in you know,
let me know we would love to. Yeah, thank you
so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All right, Joe Boy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Wall Up
What's happens way up with Angela? Ye, and look who's back.
A lot has changed since the last time that Joe
Boy was here.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome back, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
How you feeling, young Legend, young Boss?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yes, som good, I'm good. I feel good. I feel great. No,
I'm actually tired.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I've been You've been on the road and you've been
taking long flights.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So you did a tour that started in Australia.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, Australia, Australia, we did Europe and we've done a
couple of dates.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And those time zones will kill you too.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, you know, I feels like two three times.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
How was Australia? I've never been there.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's beautiful. That's actually somewhere I can't decide to go
set to down.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow, are you telling you you would move to Australia?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I would. Actually there's one particularity already, like Perth. Like
it's just it's not like you're missing out anything as
well developed like this fun stuff to do. The weather
is nice.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I heard the women are beautiful in Australia too. I've
definitely heard that.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
How long is that them?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
From Legos?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay from legos. It took us like three flights, so
i'd say about two days.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
That's commitment.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah yeah, so how was it? What did you learn
from all this? And the reason I call you young
Legend is because you now are on your own label.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yes, young legend, that's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And you're only what twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now twenty eight?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I just clip twenty like how many days ago?
Like ten days ago?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
What, happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Let me see what sign is that?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Gemini? Oh? Yeah, white people always give me that when
I say I'm Germinine.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Like Gemini for being like multiple personalities is that bad thing?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, I wouldn't even say multiple personality. I think we
just mirror, mirror mirror, based on kind of energy we
get from people.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Okay, I will say this. There's like good geminis.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And evil ones.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah I'm the good one.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're the good one hopefully okay, innocent.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But anyway, so talk to me about what that's like
for you now, just being your own boss but also
being responsible for other people.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, i'd see, I'd see. It's really like brought out
a different level of discipline for me because now I know,
I know, like it's not just about me anymore, like
like there's like there's a there's a number of people
that I have to always like think about when I'm
making decisions and all of that. So it's given me
more sense of responsibility. So I don't see that as
even the bad thing. I think it's definitely helped me
(02:18):
to become a better person in all aspects of my life.
Like I'm reading books now, I'm doing accounts, like, so
it's not just me just focusing on the music and
all of that. I'm actually like growing as a person too.
So yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
How many artists do you have? Science?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay, so right now we have just one person that
we're working with. His name is King Vidar. I was very,
very talented and it's going to come up and I
can't wait for the world to see.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How did you find it?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I mentioned through one of my closest producers, bits back
Kill was about four years ago. I was about four
years ago, and we've been talking and he sends me
his music and I just really really believe in the
story and like you let's work together. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, it is a little scary too when you have
other people, because you know some artists. It's hard to
sign to one other artists. People will tell you that,
but it also can be the biggest benefit.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Somebody who knows what you're going through. It can open up.
It's a different type of conversation.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, because I was also signed to an artist, it's easy. Yeah, yeah,
you know, and I got I got to learn a lot,
I got to learn a lot, I got to understand
the game. And yeah, I think it just gives you
a better level of understanding as a liberal owner too,
because you can see things from both perspectives as a
liberal exec and also as an artist, so it helps
you balance it out.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
It's interesting because even when your career took off, you
managed to finish school first. Yeah you know, do you
think school helped you with doing what you're doing?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Definitely, because now now I'm not understanding the importance of
the course I studied that studied industrial relations and personal management.
So now I know to like talk to people, deal
with people on the business side. So now becoming an
exec on the side so has helped me bring what
I learned to the forefront. So yeah, definitely did. And
I'm just happy that that things took off immediately after
(03:58):
I finished school.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Like I finish school, Made Everybody twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Nineteen and Baby drops and the first Victor single drop Down. Yeah,
it was like perfect timing.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
And that's crazy because even it's interesting when people put
out a first single but you don't know what they
look like necessarily and it really did take off, did
you know, which is also a rare thing to happen.
Usually people are like constantly, was that the first Like,
what's the first song you ever did?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Okay, the first song I ever did? Uh? That was
officially that was baby Girl. That was twenty seventeen. That
was twenty seventeen. Yeah, that was the first song I
ever did. Then I started putting all covers after that.
Then I had one song with mister Easy Faji. Then
after Fiji was Baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
How do you think that development was like for you?
Because before a baby came out and then being signed
to an artist, and sometimes you could be impatient too,
like why is this not doing what I wanted to do?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Right away?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah? Yeah, well yeah, that feel also comes in because
like when we dropped the song. When I dropped the
song with mister Easy, it wasn't even like it was
doing well. It was doing well. But it just wasn't
the to a songs. But you got me access to
the industry and me, I was very very patient. I
was just I just knew that was gonna happen. It
was just a matter of time as long as I
stayed consistent, you know. But yeah, I'm human. Sometimes you
feel like the should be more than this she gave me.
(05:12):
But I really really believe in taking regardless of results.
So I just kept moving.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And its pain off because it's something that you love
to do.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, I definitely yo. Like the reason I start making
music was because I was just so excited about the
idea of being able to create something. That was why
that's what that was why I start making music. I
wasn't doing this for old fame or whatnot. But I'm
happy because everything there's aligned for good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I've seen you even say with the video for Baby,
you were like, I didn't even want to.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Be Yeah, I was just like, there's just let's just
do animation, and easy was like, nah, man, you're gonna
go out there.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You gotta let people see what you look like.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Sometimes it's a big unveiled too, because I think it's interesting.
There's been a few artists who have come out and
we have no idea like who is this, what do
they look like? Sometimes even like I like with Santigo
when she first came out. She's a good friend of
mine and she was an artist back then where she
was doing kind of like a rock type of sound.
But she's black, And sometimes people categorize you based off
(06:08):
of also where you're from or yeah, and so sometimes
if people could just hear the music, it shouldn't even matter.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, definitely, definitely, And I'm happy that people like got
to love me for the music even before then you
know how I look like or what it was, and
it just really helps you like clearly really cool fans
without doing too much.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
But the ladies do like you, So that's a class.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's a lady.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
How have you been dealing with that?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I mean, listen the new album Viva la Vida sounds
like you're having a good time. Viva Lavida means kind
of basically living your life.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, living life, giving free, And that's the space because
I'd say when I started off, you know, it was
like unfamily on Terry Tree. I was a bit like,
oh should I do this? Should I do this? Like
always like just sometimes I think in steps, you know,
by disappoint I'm definitely way more confident and I just
just stuff that really like resonates me, and I push
(07:02):
you to the best of my ability, And I say,
that's one of the most beautiful points you can be
as a creative for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Even thinking about like you start the song off with innocent. Yeah,
do you feel like a lot of things that you've
been through right now have made you not be able
to be so innocent?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Dred percent, Like, like it's been six years. I've been
six years in the forefront of like of like afrobeach music,
And yeah, it definitely.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Exposes you to a lot, but you also don't want
to lose that type of like letting things happen and
trusting it and believing it, because sometimes the more you've
been through, the more your walls are up. Yeah, yeah,
able to accept and like how do you even say, Okay,
this person likes me for who I am?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, So I try to like be observant of like
people's energies, you know, Like, and I just like focus
on actions down words because people can't say anything, you know,
but from the actions, you can't really tell your intentions.
So I just like to see things from an action
based perspective. So that really helps me. By the end
of the day, I can't remind.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
At least at least I can more intentions or.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Intentions, but we keep it going as it goes.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, what for you, what are your like when you
think about what you want when it comes to not
just business but also and a partner.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
What are the things that you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I'd see somebody that just understands the kind of person
I am. Somebody that also like wants more for themselves
so we can also like push each other. And somebody
does a mind of their own, like they don't do
things just because of valuational how they want to be seen.
And and so I'd say I don't really really have
like the speck, I don't have spec if our energies aligned.
(08:40):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting to me because even you just
you know, Streets are Lonely. That's another song that's on
the project that People, and I really like that song too.
So where did that come from and what was your mindset?
What was going on with you when you Streets are
lonely because they are people be like Angela, you do
not want to be back Saturday streets.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's not easy, yeah, because it's true the streets are
only say its situations where maybe any relationship and sometimes
it seems like, oh you can have like you can't
get better outside or whatnot. But that's just saying the
grass is green where you water, you know. So like
as long as it's somebody that you're with and you
know you guys are willing to make things work out,
(09:22):
just like try to make it work, you know, instead
of just like moving onto the streets because, like I said,
streets sometimes. Yeah, but for me at that point where
I don't think I'm missing out anything anymore. I think I've.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Experienced twenty eight just twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I'm telling you, I think I've experienced experience on the streets.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
No, I just want to I need that crazy what's
a what's a good street story? Boy?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
A good street story? Should I really go into detail? Please?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
We want to hear this?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Come on? Yes? Yeah, So definitely I've met a lot
of like, like really really great people. We've had a
lot of fun like stuff like just like because I
like to travel, I like to travel.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You don't have a choice, yeah, And I do look,
I actually enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I enjoy it. So you could just like to say, okay,
let's let's go to some country and nobody can, can't
know where I am, just pack up bags, go and
just leave like normal people and just have fun. I say,
that's that's one of like the memories I remember when
I was.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's a benefit because you get into the when you
get into the money, you can be.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like, yeah, just your passport, Yeah, let's go, let's go.
And me like, I got to meet a lot of
people that well, my wea've learned too that love to travel.
So I'm like, let me fly you.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
There's no woman that doesn't love to travel. I just
want to put that out there. Who doesn't.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
What woman is going to if you tell her pack
your bags, let's go.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
No, it was all that way around. Like sometimes they
tell me like you are you free, let's go? Okay,
Like you give me a year, that's fun.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So if you were gonna say you met somebody and
you wanted to say pack your bags, that's trap. But
where would you pick to go if you wanted to
impress somebody on the first trip?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Let me see? Let me see has to be said Lucia.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Oh okay, say Lucia.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Lucia is vibes, vibes. I really enjoyed that. The weather,
the fact that it's closed to the water, the son
is out, the food is the food is good, not
as good as Nigerian food.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Dope, but you gotta put that out.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's amazing because if you think about it, just think
like six years ago, there's so many places in your
passport is stamped up.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know, like I've had three passports so far on
your field up the field up. Yeah, I have to
get a foot on soon. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Are you documenting all this?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Definitely? Definitely. I have like so so my phones and
ends on my birophone. I make sure I buy like
one terrriby space. So so I'm just recording and I
don't posted it. I'm always recording, taking content and I
just like keep them. I'm going to put out. I'm
definitely going to put out like a documentary for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That's gonna be dope. Yea, So Viva la Veda.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You've said that this is your best album to date,
and first of all, I want to just as a disclaimer,
I feel like every artist going to say that about
their latest project.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
No one's like yeah, but still I want to know
why you say that, Yeah, because this was the one
I say I really really just I really really enjoyed
making because I got to experiment a lot, you know,
So from as a creator, as a creative, this is
my favorite album means yeah, my favorite album means yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Is it hard to and I know people say this
all the time, but to have had huge hits? I
mean I was looking at one hundred and seventy two
million views on YouTube alone already. Yeah, one hundred and
seventy two million. And by the way, there's other versions
of it now.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, visualize that there's a lyric videos like forty to
fifty m Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
And so that's something that is a unicorn in itself.
That is not something that most people will accomplish. So
when you're making music, what is like, do you put
pressure on yourself to say, how am I going to
outdo what I've done in the past?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No, absolutely no, I think I think that's a slippery slope.
And you can also like cause a creative blok for
you if you're always trying to recreate the last major
thing you did. Because while I was making that song,
I wasn't thinking that way. I was just creating, And
I know that as long as you keep creating, you
always like put out amazing stuff. Some might not do
(13:18):
the same numbers as your big ones, but as long
as like it's like a story, like a story, you
just keep it moving and just keep it going. At
the end of the day, I made those songs like
it's me, so I just have to keep going.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
What's your baby on this album?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'm gonna say that I love the video and the
song Taxi Driver and the whole idea behind that.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What would you say is your baby on this album?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
My baby on this album is definitely Mark Darling Marc Daarlin,
because I'd say, I'd say I've not done that Temple
in a Sect that kind of like upbeat kind of
Temple in a Sect. And the song really really like
tested me when we're creating me, I like really like
challenge yeah, and challenge myself, you know. So i'd say
(13:57):
mc Darlene, And I'm happy with the way it came out,
and I'm happy that is finally how the people are
loving it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
How did that come about? As far as the creation
of it, since there was something different for you Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So shout out to Temple Temples. Temple is producer, you
also produced them.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Sip Yeah, Temple is Guy's my guy.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah. And whenever I would started to create something, there's
one thing that we always like align like, okay, we
need to do something different. That's the way we create,
just me on Temple, like we always like decide on
doing something different that it's not like on the current
wave or soundscape. And it was like, you know what,
let's go this direction. And it was so funny because
(14:33):
I was thinking about the sound already, like you really
want to try something in the big Middle Eastern and
with like some Indian influences on it. And it was
like you have one particular demo for you and you
played the beat for mc daalen and we just said
to make it work.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's done.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And it is nice to see because I feel like
a lot of these songs have a different sound like
in itself standing alone, even the summer all LAMI day. Yeah,
that's a nice different type of sound too. That's a
great collapse and posting the shout out Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, but it was actually but it was actually the
one that that influenced that song. Because he sent me.
He sent me the instrumental, like you, Joe, let's do
something like this, Like people have not heard you do
something like this. Let's do this together. So you did
a lot of experimental Yeah, definitely this album. This is
actually my most experimental album. For sure.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You felt like being a boss.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And having traveled also so much internationally was a big influence.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Definitely because as at the time I was making a
constituable month of the album, I was doing shows in
like Northern Africa and Arabian side. We had to show
in Saudi Arabia, I had showing Qatar Are, the show
in Dubai, at the show in India.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah. So so like everywhere, yeah, and everywhere I go,
I'm always like checking out the music. I speak to
people that are what kind of music do you guys?
Listen to? What was really the current sound? And I see,
I think that's the beauty of making music, like being
dynamic enough. And thankfully I'm blessed and privileged to travel,
so it's really right there. Top from different cultures.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Going back to a taxi driver. Seeing you as a
taxi driver was actually quite interesting and it also makes
me think because I think I take ubers like multiple
times a day, and sometimes the driver can be very
chatty with me, you know, sometimes like people have literally
usually see the other way around when you're a passenger,
you know, you're having conversations. But even in the video
(16:23):
you could see people are going through some things.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Like everybody, like everybody goes through some stuff Like I
don't think it's anybody that just has like a jolly
good life, no thought.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
To make.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That's when you're really slump in.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're on your way home. You're
just looking outside and your feeling. So I just I
just decided to make a song regarding that because I
know everybody currently because everybody at some point has been
in a taxi.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah no, everybody, And everybody sat there and had a
bad day.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Ye sit there and think about it while they're in
the in the car.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I've had literal cab drivers like talk to me about
One guy felt so bad for him. He met a
woman online and he was sending her money and she
was clearly never meeting up with him, right she was.
She kept saying, Oh, I just need some money, I'm
gonna come. He flew to Mexico to go on vacation.
She did not show up.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He was telling me all his business like, and I
was like, sir, you have to stop sending this woman.
He was older, you know, so sometimes like with older people,
they really because this scammon stuff is out of control
right now when it comes to dating and everything. I
was like, sir, you have to stop sending this woman money.
It's really bothering. Like I don't know you, but it's
bothering me, like to not know this is not happening
for you. He flew to Mexico, she didn't show up,
(17:34):
and he still was sending her money, damn.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
But also about like just being in a taxi and talking,
like it's just really good to just have like a
free out feel conversation with somebody that you might not
see again.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And who has no idea who you are exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Just makes you more honest. Yeah I'm more expressive.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yah, So yeah, cause who can you talk to now?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Because sometimes you also have to think, like I don't
want to end up having my business. We've seen so
many things happen in this business, in this industry.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, And it just feels good to just
like be able to express yourself or I like trust
the people that can't talk to that won't take like
your feelings or whatever you're going through and use it
against you.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Now, there's also some very I would say as far
as this album, we know you have a background in
church and everything, and you never let you always make
sure that's something that you pay a mass to as well,
like on a song like hey father, can you talk
about that and why that is so important to you
for people who are listening, because I feel like you always,
(18:31):
no matter what it is, you still are who you are.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You're not trying to like adjust to you know, being.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Lit or yeah yeah yeah wild yeah. So like I say,
I decided I've decided to like.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Today too.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah yeah yeah, oh yeah. So for me, I say,
God has always been like a very important factor in
my life. Like whenever I'm going through stuff, I just
pray on my mind. I get clarity and calmer, you know,
Like there's a situation I'm going to and I feel
like I'm overwhelmed. When I pray, I feel better, you know,
And I just really like it makes me. I'm just
(19:09):
happy that I go exposed to that, to that part
of spirituality. Shout to my parents, out to my family.
And it's really helped because because in this industry is
very very vulatile, it can get very very intense and
you look to different vices to just like overcome me,
like drugs and all of that. And I say, drugs
just slippery slope. It's not something I won't ever want
(19:30):
to get into. And I'd say being spiritual and praying
helps me like not focus on those other aspects because
you know, it's the industry get exposed to so much.
You get exposed to so much, and you're going through
something you might just want to just you know, just
like get lead. So I can't forget about my emotions
and feelings. But for me, praying and just like being
(19:51):
spiritual really helps me just like overcome that. And that's
why God will always be an important factor in my life.
And like I said, I like to make music about
things that I believe in, and so every album, every project,
I always have to talk about God on like one
or two songs.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, that's the fact, because even the song sip, it's
kind of like you're you're not just having a sip,
but you're awesome like talking analyzing.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, Lord, save me, don't I lost my conscience, like
you know, like I just like I don't want to.
I always say that I'm going to finish this game,
like this game of music or this carrier with my
soul intact. I'm not going to end my career and
I'm not going to retire and now be damage or
something because of our all the industry can be. I've
always said that when I love that, I always made
(20:33):
a promise to myself before I started making music, like
like I'm not going to lose my soul to this
because I've seen I see so many people like at
the end of the day when they're doing all they
said and don't like they're not happy. Even with all
the money, all the fame and all that, they're still
not happy. They just they still don't feel fulfilled. I'm like, no,
that's not going to be me.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Listen, we every day covering this Diddy trial. Do you
Is that like a big type of a conversation internationally? Yeah, yeah,
it's everywhere they talk about it.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
No, No know that news is that news is everywhere,
Like as long as you're involved in the entertainment scenes everywhere.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's a good warning right there. Like when you see
something like that.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And you like whatever, regardless of whatever happened. I can
never see like Joe Boyce.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Showing up to that's not that can't be me, you know.
Like I said, like I don't feel like I'm missing
out on anything. If I go somewhere, I feel like
the energy is off. I'm out.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
So what is fun for you?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Fun for me? Yo? Fun for me is like eye
energy stuff like I love like stuff that makes my
heart jump, skydiving, sky diving, bungee jumping, chara gliding, jet skiing,
That's my kind of stuff. Like I could travel like
the long time we went to Surya, went to sura
and and we just decided going to the jungle.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Wow, like like an a doulte like to experience all
of those things.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, that's so. Those are things I love to do
and I love to read a lot to I read
every day.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Ready, What are your favorite types of books? I love
like autobiographies and biographies the most.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, so for me right now is biographies of like
like very very powerful and famous people that I really
really like just want to know your story?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Does it make you think about telling your own story?
Like one day you're going to put.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Something I'm going to do that. I'm just like making
sure I'm keeping everything down so that I can always
go back. And that's why I also I also decide
to not do jokes, so I want to remember everything.
I don't want things to be a blur. I want
to remember every single thing. When I'm like sixty seventy,
I can talk about what into me like forty years back.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
He can so nose shrooms or nothing.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Nothing nothing. Worst case is like just.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Some wine it, you know, me, just on a simple
little wine, have a good time. I feel you on
that because it's also scary. You don't know if you'll
try something.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And then yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to find out.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Right, Listen, they raised you right at home.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I want to tell you shout out to my parents
for sure.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
All Right, So when you think about this new label,
like we talked about earlier, that's a big responsibility. So
what is the goal, Like what do you see happening
with young legend? Because again, people will tell you, like
the music business is a tough one to break into.
And it's not just the music that makes money now, right,
it's also you've got to figure out other streams of income.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So how is your business structured?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Yeah, so so for me, I I like my business manager,
have like my team that owns the day to day
of everything, so like there's not too much pressure on
me to show up every day sometimes because there's people
that just different stuff. So there's a structure. So for
label Young Legend, I wanted to be like, like, the
plan is for it to be a very very big
(23:32):
entertainment label that not just focuses on music, definitely going
to delve into like movies, into festivals, into parties, into
like different events that I just like that just revolves
around entertainment, so it's not just the music. And I'm
already putting steps in place to make that, to make
that like to make that happen, you know. And i'd
(23:53):
say Young Legends like my ten year twenty year projects,
you know, like, and I'm just happy I'm starting really
really young and we're just building gradually gradually. It's not
something I'm not delusion. I'm not going to say, well
I'm delusional. Sometimes it works, yeah, but I'm not just
gonna say, oh, I want your learn to be the
biggest labeled tomorrow or next year.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You're not gonna be tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
But yeah, yeah, you never know. Yeah, you know, you
never know. So for me, I just like I like
to like, what are things like creating and building like
a strong for relation to be able to carry whatever
like moments or wins that we have and we can't
extend it and make the legacy. So that's so I'm
just making sure I'm doing the groundwork. Now, I'm learning,
(24:32):
I'm reading books, I'm taking advice from people I see
as mentors and just building from there.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So it's been the biggest challenge.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
You think the biggest challenge is let me see, let
me see, let me see being able to What was
our biggest challenge? Yeah, to keep evolving. Yeah, that's the question. Yeah,
because the game is so I think one of the
biggest challenges is being like being ahead of the cove,
(25:01):
making sure I head of the cove because it's like,
oh this thing. You know, there was points where all
you have to do is like push your music on DSP's.
Now he went to TikTok. Now TikTok is not really
working like we used to. Now everybody's looking for the
next means and markets, and so it's just about like
learning and looking for patterns that we can used to
grow to say, yeah, evolving for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
All right, well listen, best of luck to you with everything,
and congratulations on an amazing album to thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Thank you so much, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I always appreciate you for coming through because having me. Yeah,
I know you're busy.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I know you've been on to it.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I know you had shows last night. What what's coming
up next? Like immediately?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Okay, so in two days for traveling back to the UK.
I have a show in Manchester on the fifth on
the seventh, on the seventh of June, and then we
have London. Yeah, that's the next two days, next two days.
Then we going to Canada.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
After Oh wow, you're not stuff stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I'm still on the roof for like two more months.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, thank you so much for coming by every single time.
And and your new artists are ready.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, I'll bring them and I'll bring them in you know,
let me know we would love to. Yeah, thank you
so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
All right, Joe Boy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
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