December 11, 2025 • 29 mins
Keiarna Stewart Speaks Out: Love, Business, Drama & Controversy Revealed!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The way up with angela. Ye, and y'all know I
love me some Real Housewives a Potomac. Well, Kierana, welcome
to the show. You said this is your first time
and I.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Heard, yes, this is my first time here, I believe.
So thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Okay, well, glad to have you because you got a
lot going on on this season.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
About it season ten.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So first thing I did was check to see if
you had that ring because you and Greg, your boyfriend
soon to be fiance, were shopping for rings.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
But not shopping for rings.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well yes, and Angel and you know.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, and the people were they're shopping for the rings.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, all right, I said, listen, it got a little crazy.
So I want to talk to about you and Greg
first and foremost because you guys broke up and then
and then we found out this season you got back together.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yes, we had all come to Jesus fight, and you
know what, we needed that at the time. I think
you know, when you add reality TV to your relationship
and you put cameras on things that you haven't had
the chance to work out on your own. Yeah, we
needed some time apart. We needed figure out this is
what we wanted to do and it was good for us.
And I think now that we're back together, we actually
are living together, we're trying to do things the right way,
(01:07):
all right.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So now he brought you a condo, Yeah, let me
it's tequila, so break.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
On because I feel like that gets a little muddy
on on camera. So basically, when I moved out, I
moved into the condo because we had intentions on doing
the home together. So when I moved out, I was like, oh, okay,
I actually really love it here. And so a part
of him saying do you want to come back home
was like, okay, I kind of like this too. So
our little compromise as we work through things was the condo.
(01:36):
So I was already buying the condo and he's like,
you know what, let me do that for you. Okay,
So that's kind of what happened. So I put the
contract on the condo. We actually have not closed yet
on the condo, but it's a contract on the condo.
So that was the deal. So and I actually moved
back in, but we set the things in place so
that it all made sense.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Now I saw your mom and your brother. By the way,
the whole family's live thank you, because everybody was like, okay, brother, okay,
genetics they're strong. Yeah, So how do they feel about
all of this?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
We only saw what we saw on TV. But you
guys are together. Are they happy for you now? Because
I can understand breaking up your mama is your brother's protection.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Totally. Listen. One thing you want to do when you
tell your family, you'll better be prepared. And that's what
it's like. Else gonna say, imagine telling them. But they
watching it now, their family has to watch you. So
I think they had very normal family responses to be concerned.
I think they know me, they know how I do
my relationships. I will kind of keep it in house
and work through my things. So for them to be
a part of that and to have to watch that,
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it's set in them. So I think their feelings were
very valid. And I allow my family to express their
feelings because at the end of the day, we're gonna
all be together if we're gonna be together, and so
right now they have a mutual understanding. They have their understanding,
and so like any other family, like if I forgive them,
they're open. If it makes me happy, they're open. Behind
if you get on the wrong side of the tracks,
They'll get into it again and then you know, and
(02:58):
they find their way back Oo.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You also started doing therapy. You said, oh needed it, Okay,
so tell me about because that is so interesting. You've
never done therapy before this or had you.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, So I I know I have done therapy attempts
at therapy, I have not done therapy in the way
that I am doing therapy right now. I'm in constant
therapy where I go and Greg and I also go
to therapy. So I think a lot of times couples
go to get therapy together and some of your root
issues are independent of your person.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Right, Yeah, So what are some things that you two
had to work through together? Because we saw how things
played out before you felt he was dismissive of you totally,
and then he was dismissive.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Of you, and then he dismissed me. Uh yeah, that
was very uncomfortable because it's so funny. You know, I
think when people are watching they're watching these very short periods,
they're watching a three day situation, and it kind of
sums up the narrative of your relationship and that's just
not true. Like any normal relationship you have an argument.
Sometimes you're able to work those things out in three days.
Kudos to you if you can. Sometimes when you're making
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serious decisions, you need longer than a three day camera
fest to say this is what's going to be the
sum of your relationship. But I think in therapy one
of the biggest things that I realized is that this
is something that was new for the both of us.
It was a decision that I made for myself personally
that actually did not include Greg, which is something that
he needed to accept. And it's also the fact that
(04:21):
I think that what expectations look like and realistically what
we want to do. Like I talk a lot about
our past experiences with me being engaged, him being married,
him being divorced, and me being single for a certain
amount of time. Those are things that I have to
work through and try to reposition myself because being a
wife is different than being a.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Girlfriend, right, you know, and you've been through a lot.
I've been through a lot, you know, even in your
previous engagement and the way that ended, Yeah, it was unfortunate.
And so if you've never addressed that, I can't even
imagine how that is. Bringing that into that is.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So real because I don't really get too deep into
that on camera because I like to respect that particular
phase of my life. But yeah, that's something very deep
for me because it changes your expectations on what forever
looks like and when people put pressure on that, and
you have different experiences, and both of us are having
different experiences, and we both have grief. I'm sure that
(05:14):
we've experienced in different ways of loss and that definitely
impacts both of us of trying to self cope do
it on our own, and then trying to fit this
person back into our lives, new people back into our
lives in a big way, so that you know, those
are things that we definitely had to work through. And
then there's children involved.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say going to have three kids? Yeah,
because he has three children. Yeah, how has that been?
Just having that blended family? And you know that takes
like a lot of work too.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It does. And you're talking about someone who has zero
responsibilities besides herself and life, and a lot of my
previous relationships were zero responsibilities. So we have to be
a lot more considerate. That is not just about us.
We bring the children into this, We make a family,
not just for gragging ourselves to be selfish. We create
this based around them too. In all families, you know.
So because once you put your family on national TV,
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you add your children to that. There's a lot of
layers there. So for me, it is very different because
it's like Kay, you can't just think about Kay anymore.
There are a lot of other people that you have to.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Think about different dating somebody and that with kids it is,
you know, because the kids get attached to you too.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's the thing. So it's like, listen, I don't have
no problem dragging you to hell, but they I gotta
be like then when I come back, I'm looking at
the kids like, oh my god, hey y'all miss me?
We cool? Else? Well, you know, so it is different,
and I will say to you know, that's the part
I actually like. I like the family piece, you know,
I like the family piece. It's a matter of now
trying to balance a piece that wasn't a part of
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my existence before. So Greg has his plights, but I
have a whole different plight that looks different off camera
than you know, what people are able to see.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You're also an entrepreneur obviously, have your own business. That's
quite successful, and so people are digging into that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I want you to break down because I saw some
articles and people are talking crazy. They're like, she don't
own it is this is that it's not really hers.
But I want you to clear that up.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yes, because I can see the people get bored and
they like to get entertained. So I absolutely owned the business.
So I have when I started a case to it
beauty and Wellness. It's actually not under that name, but
my mom when I came in at a I came.
I started the business post COVID, so I had some
things going on. I had to hold that business for
a very long time. I actually had a very difficult
(07:27):
startup with my business, one that I don't even talk
about because now people are like, oh, we were so
happy for her to be here. But I went through hell.
I was actually the first black O woman medspa in
the area to be in that prime real estate downtown.
So I went to let's set stop. It was a
huge deal.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, so congratulations to you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Easy. It wasn't easy, and I really had a very
hard time. So I needed a break from my moment
and I tapped my mom in and I say, hey, okay,
she's like, well, we should add something else to the
business and mental health. Why don't we make a stup
in branch. So it's always case to it beauty. So
my mom did case to a beauty and wellness to
kind of relieve me because my first year business, honey,
I deep dive all the way into debt, like I.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And that's what I took it all on. I took
you gotta self fund your business.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Listen, I so mind you. I actually sold my franchises
to self fund that business.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So's it's a deeper story than that. But yeah, So
it was really like I did it all and so
it literally is like a half a million dollar project
and honey, I did every dollar of that. So when
I couldn't hold it anymore, I said, hey, Mom, I'm
going to transition my business. Can you tap me and
can you help me? And then I own this part
and then I can have this in your name. So
for the people who are like, oh, she doesn't, yes,
I do. My name is on the lease, it's on
(08:37):
the building. Yes. And I have a wonderful mother who's
also a businesswoman as well. And so yeah, that's what
I did, and I've turned it over to her and
I'm able to like buy my business back and it's
you know still Case Stewart.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Do you think being on the show helps you with
your business? Do you see a lot more people coming
in since you've been on Real Housewives. I'm just curious, Like,
as far as the branding part.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of it, I'll say, here's the deal, I will say, yes,
it peaks a lot more interest. I think what's really
interesting is that I think there are now we're seeing
a lot more black women in the esthetic industry. However,
it's a very small percentage of us. It's very expensive
to do, and it's hard to do. And so for me,
(09:20):
you know, I find that's what makes the platform so
amazing because I get to tell people about, Hey, this
is for us, this is for us, because that's why
I created this. And being in the beauty industry for
so long, I owned the hair salon too. I can
see it touched me to that I own the hair
salon too, and I own that for thirteen years, and
I transition from the hair salon, I have franchise, and
(09:41):
then I transitioned into the medical spa. But I will
say that it's just really important now that people get
to see me a little bit more clearly in what
I'm doing, and like what they see myself or they
see all the people know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
They show business a little more. I would like to
talk about it. I show it a lot because I
would think that would be fast for people to see.
Listen you and that element, because I do feel out
here that like you've been kind of made the villain
this season. I don't know if you kind of Okay,
I don't know if you feel that way, but it
seems like they've made you the person that's kind of
(10:14):
like what is she so mad for? Like why? And
so I know we don't get to see a lot
of the footage. Yeah, so sometimes we don't know, like
you know, you and Giselle, you and Wendy, even you
and your own friend Angel you know that's your friend.
And so people have said, and they did a whole
article like she's not a good friend, you know type
(10:35):
of thing. And I want you to be able to
answer to that because, like I said, there's a lot
we don't see totally.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
First of all, I'm a great friend. That's those first
things first of a great friend.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yet here we are I'm a great friend.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm a protector. I'm someone who is very you know,
I'm very aware when people play a little game. I
don't even let you play a little game until I'm
onto your game. And I think that's what people are
seeing we forget that I've had time around these ladies.
I've had time to know some of their intentions and
not always the best. So specifically, I'm gonna speak to
Angel as my friend. I really ushered her into this,
(11:12):
you know, into our friend group, and I felt so
protective of her. Even the pitfall was me still being like, hey,
don't do that, because I don't want them to try
to even say that there's a flaw between us, because
it's not. We have a very solid friendship, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Because we know there's a curse on reality TV.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, and it fall out, and that was when I
wasn't gonna let fall on us. So for me, it's
actually that I'm really more of a protective friend. I'm
the friend that's like, no, she belongs to me and
I you know, and I feel like in this environment,
it's natural for people to want to tear friendships apart sometime,
and so for her specifically, I was like, no, we're
not gonna do that, and so even the chinchat commet
was really me trying to protect her, you know. So
(11:49):
what you guys didn't see is that she was actually
at my event and we had the conversation. I was like,
wait a minute, let's not do that because we would
have to do that in front of other people. And
I'm a girl, cold girl, so me and you can
have all of the agree disagrees we want between you
and me. So it was that I knew that that
would be giving it to the group and I did
not want that, right, You're glad that we do that,
(12:10):
and that's exactly what happened. Then Ashley took it to Giselle,
and then Gazelle brings it back up to me, and
I'm instantly like when I'm saying I chin check the situation,
I'm like, no, we don't ever have to discuss that again,
because she and I had already discussed that. That turned
into oh she said she chin checked you, right, and
that wasn't what it was, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So I did get that because I didn't feel like
you said you physically were about.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
To like no, no, listen, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It kind of was like shut down the situation.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, it's like, let's shut down the situation I don't
want that to be the narrative here, so exactly, you
see how you knew them and shutdown That's exactly what
I didn't think that.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But what people also then they made it a big
deal like, oh, you said you didn't say it, then
you said you couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, because honestly, if you didn't, no, I probably didn't remember.
But we talked about so much of it, and that
was actually such a small nugget of the conversation that
that wasn't even really what Jiselle and I have been
talking about, which is why I didn't remember. There were
other things we were talking about that were to me
important conversation that was not So that's why I didn't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now, when you were looking at this scene on the
boat where you and Jizelle, Yes, when you looked at
that in retrospect, do you feel like that was accurately
portrayed or is there more to that story?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And actually I don't even really I really hate that
scene because I think it was such It was one
of those scenes where I was very confused while we
were even having that conversation because it's a conversation that
Giselle and I had had multiple times. So I felt
like it was a little it was very like a
little like gotcha moment that didn't Yeah, Wendy instigated that,
And I'm looking at Jazelle, like, we've worked through this already.
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We've had scenes where we actually sat down and talk
about it. It was never shown, but we actually worked through this,
and it's like it was a trauma that I didn't
want either of us to have to relive. So it
really did upset me. And then the fact that we
had Wendy throwing the icing on top of it was like,
what are we even talking about? Why is she even
in it? You and I have already resolved out issues.
If we want to talk, that's between you and I.
But why why are we letting the input of what
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Wendy have to say on a conversation that you and
I have already addressed.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Now, another thing that's been headline making is you and
Stacy Child. I'm sure you said Stacy's on Vanity Fair's
Favorite Performances of twenty twenty five lists. Congraduates They actually
named her on that, and people feel like there's no
real reason for you. It feels like you don't like her,
and they're like, we don't understand why she doesn't like Stacy,
(14:27):
And listen, I get that people feel like Stacy lies
about things, but I want to hear from you because
people are confused about that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
They're like, yeah, issue, Actually, the issue is that people
are so caught up on me not liking Stacy. Here's
a few of the backdrops. At the beginning of the season.
We did have like a rocky start when you say
at Giselle's house, I was really kind of over it
because here's the thing. We're on reality TV and we
have a responsibility to give some kind of reality, not
just performance. Okay, because I'm a real person. I don't
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have performance. I don't have performance back I have a
theatrical background. I bring myself to reality TV, right, just
like you're asking me all of my business and I'm
giving it to you because I bring I appreciate, I
bring myself. Yeah, because this is me, right, So you know,
sometimes you expect that from other people, you're just not
gonna get it. So even after that, what you see
is me at the Bloomball when I'm talking to Stacey,
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and I'm like, hi, Stacy. Actually, it was like I
brung a gift for Stacy because I'm like, girl, let's
wrap this up when you don't really have to have
an issue, because Stacey was somebody that I actually rooted
for and liked. Okay, so I'm like, all right, maybe
you know this doesn't have to go left for the
rest of the seasons. But I think once she formed
her alliance with Wendy, I mean, nothing's better than an
alliance hate train, because you know, once they get together
on the same hate train, nothing you know how that goes.
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So once the linkup happens, once the Mad Girls link up,
and you don't like me girls, that's just a thing.
So me and Stacey, I've had several moments this season
where I actually am the bigger person. I'm like, girl,
I don't want to do that with you no more.
We're done with it. But Stacy actually, when we were
in Nevis, there was a moment where she really wanted
to get to know Angel better and be good friends
with Angel, and I said, well, you're putting a whole
lot of effort into Stacy. You always say that I
(16:02):
don't want be your friend she said, because I'm not
interested in friendship with you, but.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You can't be friends with my best friend.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And then no, no, it's fine if you be friends
with my best friend. But let's let's move the fact
that Kay has a problem with you, because at this point,
then maybe you have a problem with Kay.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So you know, maybe it started with the whole Monique
situation too, that you know, saying that she dated moniques
ex husband.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was yeah,
you know, it's one of those bones that I'm like, yeah,
but here's the deal, here's the deal. It's honesty. And
guess what, Monique, you've been out of the game for
a while and I'm not so I know what goes
on here, you know. And so it was it was
a girl cold moment again for me where I'm like, hey, girls,
just so we clear because everybody will smile up in
(16:45):
your face and they don't know the deal. But Money
didn't care, so great.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, money gets past that, thank god. But I do
want to say with Stacy, I'm still so they only
went out, she said, and that's it. Nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It was like a that's what she said, that's what
I don't know, Okay, yeah, I don't know. We don't know.
I don't know. That's what she said. So it's whatever
Stacey said.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now watching this latest episode with Ashley and her boyfriend,
I guess she broke up with him. And that's another thing.
People thought it was really mean how she did it.
And I want to get your thoughts on that scene
where Ashley called her boyfriend Josh out there sitting down
and she's basically like, look, I don't know if your
finances are together for us to continue this situation. She's
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thinking into the future. What did you think about that scene?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You know what, here's the thing. This is the thing.
This is the thing people love to pick and choose
what's mean and what's nice when you're telling your real life.
You know, people wanted to know about her dating life. Yeah,
so she said, okay, well this is what my dating
life is like. She had decided that she didn't want
to be with him anymore, and that was her decision
to tell him. If he wanted to say, hey, I'll
come and join you for this conversation, if he had
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said no, I don't want to join you for this
conversation and cameras ambush him, and she's like, hey, it's
over because you're broke. Then I'd be like, oh, now,
that's just crazy. That's not what she did. She's like, look,
let's shout about it. Unfortunately. I mean I probably felt
like he was a casualty a war there. But at
the end of the day, I think she was being honest.
People wanted to know what was going on with her
if she ended it. She said she didn't. That's what
she did.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right, You're like, and I'm backing happy in my relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Listen, because people have to understand when real relationships, I'm
sure you have the luxury of navigating whatever's happening in
your life the way that you liked it, right, not
on cameras. You don't have a camera to kind of
say what's going on actually in your life or your relationship.
So it's like, these are the things that we actually
do want to see in other people. That's why I
say people pick and choose when they say, oh, we
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don't want to see that, because at the end of
the day, she was still giving you what's happening in
her life.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Now, Okay, what are some things that you wish would
have been shown about you that didn't make it to
the final edits.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh my goodness, mostly like you running it back to
us high here you go? Is this thing on? Let
me run it out? So a few things that I
wish would have been shown is that I wish that
they would have shown a lot of my conversations before
me and Wendy had the conversations that we did have. Okay,
so I think the whole thing where it just seems
like out of nowhere, Wendy. I actually didn't come into
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the beginning of the season like, yeah, I'm gonna have
an issue with Whitney. It actually wasn't really like that.
It was really like, guys, am, I reading this right?
Is this a little shady kind of you kind of thing?
But it was once we got to the bloom Ball
and we were addressing. First of all, her sit down
with Giselle was something that we all could have addressed
because it was something that she said negatively about the
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entire group. But if I'm your homegirl, you wouldn't have
an issue with me sitting down and joining it on
a chat whether you feel like we're in a good
place or a bad place. Right, If I genuinely ever
liked you I'm not gonna act like I'm not gonna
throw shade on you when you're trying to join the
chat because you don't know what I'm gonna say whether
you this is what you've already made me the villain
in your mind, That's what I'm saying. It seems like, kay, is, well,
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why did you think it was gonna be that? Why
couldn't we just had a chat. But you're telling somebody
I don't want you to sit here are we cool?
So that we're really not cool before I can't even
get it out right. You're changing the dynamic here. You know.
Also another time in Nevis when I was there, I
actually gave Wendy earrings for her birthday after they made
such a big deal like, oh, you were so rude,
you left the party, and I said, you know what,
let's leave whatever issues that we had here, Let's leave
(20:13):
the Nevas and let's go back home and just kind
of like you know, start on a new foot. And
it's just real flip floppy. So you guys didn't see that.
I actually was a person that said, you know what,
I don't want us to have the beef anymore. Here's
here's my peace offering to you so that we can
kind of move on and at least be good coworkers
at best, you know what I mean, we could do
that at best. So though moments like that, and then
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my business, you know, I don't I had a toxin
caveyar event. So outside of the chin check comet that
came out of that, it was beautiful. We seen my
actual real patients coming there, They.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Got service, they got services there.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yet more of my business, more of the things that
I do, Like you see me getting the salmon sprm facial,
but that's actually my morning meet and greet with my
team to talk about sal.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, you need it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's peptids. It's like having the maximum skincare injected in
your face.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You want to call it something else, No, we want
to call it that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
She has a little ring to it, because then like,
what's that the thing you need? Know? Okay, we're gonna
do it together. So yeah, it's things like that my business,
you know. You know, even Greg and I think it
just seems like we just got back together. Greg and
I actually did therapy, you know, this season, like we
actually say, don't like being on.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
This does not And that's an and so tell me, like,
how do you navigate that? Because there is a compromise, right,
that is something that you're doing. This is a job,
this is and for him, it's not a space that
he necessarily wants to be in, but he's doing it.
And I feel like maybe that added to some of
the issues y'all had earlier.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't know, but it totally did, because it's like,
you know, as a man, naturally, he has his processes.
You know, he wants to do things his way and
his privacy and his comfort. But I will say this,
You know, we have a lot of chichen about men's
and some of y'all don't even have no men. Some
of y'all are not happy with your men. Some of
you are divorced, not divorced, some of you are, some
(22:10):
of you are confused. You know. It's a lot to
be said here, you know. And so what I like
to say is do what makes you happy. But as
far as Greg showing up, I give him kudos for that,
because this is at the end of day of my job.
I try to navigate it the best way I can
by respecting when he's available to actually do it, you
know what I mean, making it as comfortable as possible
by telling him, Hey, this is what may be going on.
(22:32):
I just try to communicate better because my first go
round at this I just expected, like, listen, you come on, dude,
I say, dude, I would. He's like, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, yeah, being a boss sometimes that personality is
that's hard.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There you go, because it doesn't start with him. It's
just knowing that this is a man, and I have
to like respect that he is a hominade to me.
You know, you got to ask are you available tomorrow?
Fel not. Hey, we're feeling them all from TENNI day,
like I got the kids, I got thinks of it.
So just finding the balance with respecting his time and
(23:06):
respecting the fact that he's being a willing participant. And
may I note that he has not missed any of
the events this season. He's at any and everything, whether
he mad face, said face, happy face, he is accounted for.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So let's check that that's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You're happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I know that there are some things you learned about
each other in therapy, Oh my god, about your relationship
and how to improve and make sure that you guys
stay cohesive.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So one of the things that I learned is that
I'm just supernaturally independent. Right, My happiness does come from me,
which is like a lot of people happiness sometimes come
for other people. All of my happiness comes from me, right,
So I am the center of my attention. So I
have learned in therapy that when you invite people into
your life, you have to be a lot more open
and be a lot more flexible. Like you're so used
(23:52):
to being a quote unquote boss or a business person.
You think that everything. So just learning to turn that
part of me off so I can submit a little
bit more, right, right, being open to submission, and also
just greg learning that this is who I said I
want to be with and accepting that no she's not
your traditional woman, this is what makes her happy, and
just us find in the middle ground what that looks
(24:12):
like for our household. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you made that decision and
that he was cool with.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, because you either you couldn't accept it or you don't.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You know, did you did you film any sessions? I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We actually did film one, and I feel like they
would have asked for that. They filmed it and it
was so good, and I'm so mad that y'all didn't
see it because it was the one time where I
think it shows a lot more of how I am
in a relationship because I think it's it makes Greg
appear to be like this super strong like he is,
but it's actually I have a very big personality and
you know, I have a lot to say at all times.
(24:47):
I don't know if y'all know. So it's like it's
Greg the problem is Ka the problem? I don't know.
But we're so much alike second to that were the
same sign. We're so much alike that we're both Sagittarius, okaytarist.
So it's like your birthday is I'm November twenty eight
his birthday coming up?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
All right, So how did y'all get back together? Like,
even girl, you ain't following this?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So how we get back together? Is that? So once
I moved out, I was actually kind of happy. I
was like, okay, this is gretch. Once I finally got
my live Connor was amazing. Once I got settled in
the condo, I was like, Okay, this is this is
this kind of like it and I think it's just
one of those things where time and he you know,
we were still in communication and then he just called
me one day and I was like, maybe we need
(25:30):
like to actually go like take a trip and actually
talk Jamaica, and like, may we know? It really was,
you know what, we are not complicated people like that.
It's like we're both very much like we can agree,
like we have our time and we'll think about it.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
A trip always worked, A trip always works.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And I think the trip was like we both.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
For like, never been on a trip with Josh Listen,
step it up, honey, stepped the cookies up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
We gotta get you on the trips, on the planes
and the things. But yeah, I think the trip was
really like our moment we were like, Okay, we we
can find PC and we can find some haptics. And
then deciding to go to therapy after we went on
the trip, because that was really like the main consensus
for me. It's like, Okay, maybe we need some help
to mediate the issues that you and I can't resolve
on our own.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What would you say to people now that are watching
the show and they are they might have been like
I liked her before, but now that she's you know,
one of I'm not feeling her she's coming for Stacy.
She's doing this, she's got an issue with everybody. She's
making small things big deals. How would you respond to that?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know what I will respond by saying, at the
end of the day, guys, my issues are always valid,
whether you see the full story or not. You know,
sometimes you gotta see a person's journey. I think people
are also have to realize they're watching me as a housewife,
so they there are other sides. And I'm not always
gonna be nice. I'm not always gonna talk to you nice.
But I don't start things. I'm gonna clarify that I
do not start things now. I will bring you the
(26:52):
facts after we addressed it. But I don't normally like
to think that I start things. And I think even
with the stacy of it all, it's like, at the
end of the day, we're all on TV, We're all
trying to have moment, We're all trying to have a conversation.
You know. That's what we're here to do, is express ourselves.
And I think people are just learning that Kate is
more multifaceted than just being the nice.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
K they are. They gonna really be addressing, like Wendy
and Eddie and their issues.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Listen, I hope we address it all. You know, that's
what the reunion is for. Like, that's the open floor.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
For us to be on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, honey, y'all just be seen to put your popcorns on,
take your wigs off. Yeah, it's gonna be take it all. Yeah,
this kid's seed in honey. Yeah. But yeah, I think
this is what the reunion is for, all of these
little small moments that you know that you don't get
to see the things that need to get addressed, things
that happen off the camera.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We feel prepared.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Oh yeah, I feel super prepared. I'm ready. I'm like
a kid on the first day of school. Baby, where's
my outfit? Yeah, I'm ready. Now.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I saw something that was posted after the whole thing
happened with Wendy. They said that you had some issues
of fraud or something.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Lies never had an issue with fraud. First of all,
I'm glad we're talking about this because, you know, I
try not to get into like what do they call it,
like smut what you know what it called it, like
smut blogging When it gets to the stuff that's like,
oh guys, you guys were deep in the trash to
kind of make a moment. But let me address it
had nothing to do with me. I've never seen the
courtroom about it. You guys already know I had a
(28:15):
season of my life where I dated the bad boys,
right y'all know that we knew we had we had
a season in my life with Honeywore. I was like, Okay,
this is fun. They get all. I love it here.
We had had a season like any other girl. But listen,
I never been convicted. I never had a felony. It
was immediately dismissed because it had nothing to do with me.
It was really one of those catch catch a small
(28:36):
fish to get the big fish and had nothing to
do with me, which is why whoever was very very busy.
It actually was immediately dismissed inexpunge. So you know the
powers that be that was working overtime to try to
dig that little bit of dirt up.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
God blessed well, thank you for clearing that up. So
they try to bring it up on the reunion.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, honey, listen, let me say something. Ain't no tea
on that, ain't no dirt on that, honey. They got
the people. It ain't had nothing to do with me.
It was dismissed. I ain't had no foundies. They got
to pay people. God bless him. Listen, I don't have
no felonies, no melodies. I ain't got no fraud. I
didn't need to do fraud. And let me just be clear,
I literally have been a business owner my entire life,
even just be in position to be able to buy
(29:13):
my business, sell my business within my family. This is
what I do.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Okay, So this is coming to her if you because
I could have helped a few people out, so you
didn't have to get that a little bit of a
chow cold once to get assessive. All right, okay, well
we're locked in. Thank you so much for coming on.
This was a pleasure to talk to you, and I
appreciate just how cool you were to talk to and yeah,
just open about everything.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I appreciate it. Now. I appreciate you asking me the
questions this, honey, one thing. The girl's always try to
gag you, but I live in my truth.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So yeah, all right, let's see.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
What happens next. I'm waiting to way up
The way up with angela. Ye, and y'all know I
love me some Real Housewives a Potomac. Well, Kierana, welcome
to the show. You said this is your first time
and I.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Heard, yes, this is my first time here, I believe.
So thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Okay, well, glad to have you because you got a
lot going on on this season.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
About it season ten.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
So first thing I did was check to see if
you had that ring because you and Greg, your boyfriend
soon to be fiance, were shopping for rings.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
But not shopping for rings.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Well yes, and Angel and you know.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, and the people were they're shopping for the rings.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Okay, all right, I said, listen, it got a little crazy.
So I want to talk to about you and Greg
first and foremost because you guys broke up and then
and then we found out this season you got back together.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yes, we had all come to Jesus fight, and you
know what, we needed that at the time. I think
you know, when you add reality TV to your relationship
and you put cameras on things that you haven't had
the chance to work out on your own. Yeah, we
needed some time apart. We needed figure out this is
what we wanted to do and it was good for us.
And I think now that we're back together, we actually
are living together, we're trying to do things the right way,
(01:07):
all right.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
So now he brought you a condo, Yeah, let me
it's tequila, so break.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
On because I feel like that gets a little muddy
on on camera. So basically, when I moved out, I
moved into the condo because we had intentions on doing
the home together. So when I moved out, I was like, oh, okay,
I actually really love it here. And so a part
of him saying do you want to come back home
was like, okay, I kind of like this too. So
our little compromise as we work through things was the condo.
(01:36):
So I was already buying the condo and he's like,
you know what, let me do that for you. Okay,
So that's kind of what happened. So I put the
contract on the condo. We actually have not closed yet
on the condo, but it's a contract on the condo.
So that was the deal. So and I actually moved
back in, but we set the things in place so
that it all made sense.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Now I saw your mom and your brother. By the way,
the whole family's live thank you, because everybody was like, okay, brother, okay,
genetics they're strong. Yeah, So how do they feel about
all of this?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
We only saw what we saw on TV. But you
guys are together. Are they happy for you now? Because
I can understand breaking up your mama is your brother's protection.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Totally. Listen. One thing you want to do when you
tell your family, you'll better be prepared. And that's what
it's like. Else gonna say, imagine telling them. But they
watching it now, their family has to watch you. So
I think they had very normal family responses to be concerned.
I think they know me, they know how I do
my relationships. I will kind of keep it in house
and work through my things. So for them to be
a part of that and to have to watch that,
(02:37):
it's set in them. So I think their feelings were
very valid. And I allow my family to express their
feelings because at the end of the day, we're gonna
all be together if we're gonna be together, and so
right now they have a mutual understanding. They have their understanding,
and so like any other family, like if I forgive them,
they're open. If it makes me happy, they're open. Behind
if you get on the wrong side of the tracks,
They'll get into it again and then you know, and
(02:58):
they find their way back Oo.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
You also started doing therapy. You said, oh needed it, Okay,
so tell me about because that is so interesting. You've
never done therapy before this or had you.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, So I I know I have done therapy attempts
at therapy, I have not done therapy in the way
that I am doing therapy right now. I'm in constant
therapy where I go and Greg and I also go
to therapy. So I think a lot of times couples
go to get therapy together and some of your root
issues are independent of your person.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Right, Yeah, So what are some things that you two
had to work through together? Because we saw how things
played out before you felt he was dismissive of you totally,
and then he was dismissive.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Of you, and then he dismissed me. Uh yeah, that
was very uncomfortable because it's so funny. You know, I
think when people are watching they're watching these very short periods,
they're watching a three day situation, and it kind of
sums up the narrative of your relationship and that's just
not true. Like any normal relationship you have an argument.
Sometimes you're able to work those things out in three days.
Kudos to you if you can. Sometimes when you're making
(04:01):
serious decisions, you need longer than a three day camera
fest to say this is what's going to be the
sum of your relationship. But I think in therapy one
of the biggest things that I realized is that this
is something that was new for the both of us.
It was a decision that I made for myself personally
that actually did not include Greg, which is something that
he needed to accept. And it's also the fact that
(04:21):
I think that what expectations look like and realistically what
we want to do. Like I talk a lot about
our past experiences with me being engaged, him being married,
him being divorced, and me being single for a certain
amount of time. Those are things that I have to
work through and try to reposition myself because being a
wife is different than being a.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Girlfriend, right, you know, and you've been through a lot.
I've been through a lot, you know, even in your
previous engagement and the way that ended, Yeah, it was unfortunate.
And so if you've never addressed that, I can't even
imagine how that is. Bringing that into that is.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So real because I don't really get too deep into
that on camera because I like to respect that particular
phase of my life. But yeah, that's something very deep
for me because it changes your expectations on what forever
looks like and when people put pressure on that, and
you have different experiences, and both of us are having
different experiences, and we both have grief. I'm sure that
(05:14):
we've experienced in different ways of loss and that definitely
impacts both of us of trying to self cope do
it on our own, and then trying to fit this
person back into our lives, new people back into our
lives in a big way, so that you know, those
are things that we definitely had to work through. And
then there's children involved.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say going to have three kids? Yeah,
because he has three children. Yeah, how has that been?
Just having that blended family? And you know that takes
like a lot of work too.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It does. And you're talking about someone who has zero
responsibilities besides herself and life, and a lot of my
previous relationships were zero responsibilities. So we have to be
a lot more considerate. That is not just about us.
We bring the children into this, We make a family,
not just for gragging ourselves to be selfish. We create
this based around them too. In all families, you know.
So because once you put your family on national TV,
(06:04):
you add your children to that. There's a lot of
layers there. So for me, it is very different because
it's like Kay, you can't just think about Kay anymore.
There are a lot of other people that you have to.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Think about different dating somebody and that with kids it is,
you know, because the kids get attached to you too.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
That's the thing. So it's like, listen, I don't have
no problem dragging you to hell, but they I gotta
be like then when I come back, I'm looking at
the kids like, oh my god, hey y'all miss me?
We cool? Else? Well, you know, so it is different,
and I will say to you know, that's the part
I actually like. I like the family piece, you know,
I like the family piece. It's a matter of now
trying to balance a piece that wasn't a part of
(06:40):
my existence before. So Greg has his plights, but I
have a whole different plight that looks different off camera
than you know, what people are able to see.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You're also an entrepreneur obviously, have your own business. That's
quite successful, and so people are digging into that.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I want you to break down because I saw some
articles and people are talking crazy. They're like, she don't
own it is this is that it's not really hers.
But I want you to clear that up.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yes, because I can see the people get bored and
they like to get entertained. So I absolutely owned the business.
So I have when I started a case to it
beauty and Wellness. It's actually not under that name, but
my mom when I came in at a I came.
I started the business post COVID, so I had some
things going on. I had to hold that business for
a very long time. I actually had a very difficult
(07:27):
startup with my business, one that I don't even talk
about because now people are like, oh, we were so
happy for her to be here. But I went through hell.
I was actually the first black O woman medspa in
the area to be in that prime real estate downtown.
So I went to let's set stop. It was a
huge deal.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, so congratulations to you.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Easy. It wasn't easy, and I really had a very
hard time. So I needed a break from my moment
and I tapped my mom in and I say, hey, okay,
she's like, well, we should add something else to the
business and mental health. Why don't we make a stup
in branch. So it's always case to it beauty. So
my mom did case to a beauty and wellness to
kind of relieve me because my first year business, honey,
I deep dive all the way into debt, like I.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
And that's what I took it all on. I took
you gotta self fund your business.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Listen, I so mind you. I actually sold my franchises
to self fund that business.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So's it's a deeper story than that. But yeah, So
it was really like I did it all and so
it literally is like a half a million dollar project
and honey, I did every dollar of that. So when
I couldn't hold it anymore, I said, hey, Mom, I'm
going to transition my business. Can you tap me and
can you help me? And then I own this part
and then I can have this in your name. So
for the people who are like, oh, she doesn't, yes,
I do. My name is on the lease, it's on
(08:37):
the building. Yes. And I have a wonderful mother who's
also a businesswoman as well. And so yeah, that's what
I did, and I've turned it over to her and
I'm able to like buy my business back and it's
you know still Case Stewart.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Do you think being on the show helps you with
your business? Do you see a lot more people coming
in since you've been on Real Housewives. I'm just curious, Like,
as far as the branding part.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Of it, I'll say, here's the deal, I will say, yes,
it peaks a lot more interest. I think what's really
interesting is that I think there are now we're seeing
a lot more black women in the esthetic industry. However,
it's a very small percentage of us. It's very expensive
to do, and it's hard to do. And so for me,
(09:20):
you know, I find that's what makes the platform so
amazing because I get to tell people about, Hey, this
is for us, this is for us, because that's why
I created this. And being in the beauty industry for
so long, I owned the hair salon too. I can
see it touched me to that I own the hair
salon too, and I own that for thirteen years, and
I transition from the hair salon, I have franchise, and
(09:41):
then I transitioned into the medical spa. But I will
say that it's just really important now that people get
to see me a little bit more clearly in what
I'm doing, and like what they see myself or they
see all the people know.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
They show business a little more. I would like to
talk about it. I show it a lot because I
would think that would be fast for people to see.
Listen you and that element, because I do feel out
here that like you've been kind of made the villain
this season. I don't know if you kind of Okay,
I don't know if you feel that way, but it
seems like they've made you the person that's kind of
(10:14):
like what is she so mad for? Like why? And
so I know we don't get to see a lot
of the footage. Yeah, so sometimes we don't know, like
you know, you and Giselle, you and Wendy, even you
and your own friend Angel you know that's your friend.
And so people have said, and they did a whole
article like she's not a good friend, you know type
(10:35):
of thing. And I want you to be able to
answer to that because, like I said, there's a lot
we don't see totally.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
First of all, I'm a great friend. That's those first
things first of a great friend.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yet here we are I'm a great friend.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm a protector. I'm someone who is very you know,
I'm very aware when people play a little game. I
don't even let you play a little game until I'm
onto your game. And I think that's what people are
seeing we forget that I've had time around these ladies.
I've had time to know some of their intentions and
not always the best. So specifically, I'm gonna speak to
Angel as my friend. I really ushered her into this,
(11:12):
you know, into our friend group, and I felt so
protective of her. Even the pitfall was me still being like, hey,
don't do that, because I don't want them to try
to even say that there's a flaw between us, because
it's not. We have a very solid friendship, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Because we know there's a curse on reality TV.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, and it fall out, and that was when I
wasn't gonna let fall on us. So for me, it's
actually that I'm really more of a protective friend. I'm
the friend that's like, no, she belongs to me and
I you know, and I feel like in this environment,
it's natural for people to want to tear friendships apart sometime,
and so for her specifically, I was like, no, we're
not gonna do that, and so even the chinchat commet
was really me trying to protect her, you know. So
(11:49):
what you guys didn't see is that she was actually
at my event and we had the conversation. I was like,
wait a minute, let's not do that because we would
have to do that in front of other people. And
I'm a girl, cold girl, so me and you can
have all of the agree disagrees we want between you
and me. So it was that I knew that that
would be giving it to the group and I did
not want that, right, You're glad that we do that,
(12:10):
and that's exactly what happened. Then Ashley took it to Giselle,
and then Gazelle brings it back up to me, and
I'm instantly like when I'm saying I chin check the situation,
I'm like, no, we don't ever have to discuss that again,
because she and I had already discussed that. That turned
into oh she said she chin checked you, right, and
that wasn't what it was, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So I did get that because I didn't feel like
you said you physically were about.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
To like no, no, listen, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
It kind of was like shut down the situation.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, it's like, let's shut down the situation I don't
want that to be the narrative here, so exactly, you
see how you knew them and shutdown That's exactly what
I didn't think that.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But what people also then they made it a big
deal like, oh, you said you didn't say it, then
you said you couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, because honestly, if you didn't, no, I probably didn't remember.
But we talked about so much of it, and that
was actually such a small nugget of the conversation that
that wasn't even really what Jiselle and I have been
talking about, which is why I didn't remember. There were
other things we were talking about that were to me
important conversation that was not So that's why I didn't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now, when you were looking at this scene on the
boat where you and Jizelle, Yes, when you looked at
that in retrospect, do you feel like that was accurately
portrayed or is there more to that story?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And actually I don't even really I really hate that
scene because I think it was such It was one
of those scenes where I was very confused while we
were even having that conversation because it's a conversation that
Giselle and I had had multiple times. So I felt
like it was a little it was very like a
little like gotcha moment that didn't Yeah, Wendy instigated that,
And I'm looking at Jazelle, like, we've worked through this already.
(13:43):
We've had scenes where we actually sat down and talk
about it. It was never shown, but we actually worked through this,
and it's like it was a trauma that I didn't
want either of us to have to relive. So it
really did upset me. And then the fact that we
had Wendy throwing the icing on top of it was like,
what are we even talking about? Why is she even
in it? You and I have already resolved out issues.
If we want to talk, that's between you and I.
But why why are we letting the input of what
(14:04):
Wendy have to say on a conversation that you and
I have already addressed.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Now, another thing that's been headline making is you and
Stacy Child. I'm sure you said Stacy's on Vanity Fair's
Favorite Performances of twenty twenty five lists. Congraduates They actually
named her on that, and people feel like there's no
real reason for you. It feels like you don't like her,
and they're like, we don't understand why she doesn't like Stacy,
(14:27):
And listen, I get that people feel like Stacy lies
about things, but I want to hear from you because
people are confused about that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
They're like, yeah, issue, Actually, the issue is that people
are so caught up on me not liking Stacy. Here's
a few of the backdrops. At the beginning of the season.
We did have like a rocky start when you say
at Giselle's house, I was really kind of over it
because here's the thing. We're on reality TV and we
have a responsibility to give some kind of reality, not
just performance. Okay, because I'm a real person. I don't
(14:57):
have performance. I don't have performance back I have a
theatrical background. I bring myself to reality TV, right, just
like you're asking me all of my business and I'm
giving it to you because I bring I appreciate, I
bring myself. Yeah, because this is me, right, So you know,
sometimes you expect that from other people, you're just not
gonna get it. So even after that, what you see
is me at the Bloomball when I'm talking to Stacey,
(15:19):
and I'm like, hi, Stacy. Actually, it was like I
brung a gift for Stacy because I'm like, girl, let's
wrap this up when you don't really have to have
an issue, because Stacey was somebody that I actually rooted
for and liked. Okay, so I'm like, all right, maybe
you know this doesn't have to go left for the
rest of the seasons. But I think once she formed
her alliance with Wendy, I mean, nothing's better than an
alliance hate train, because you know, once they get together
on the same hate train, nothing you know how that goes.
(15:40):
So once the linkup happens, once the Mad Girls link up,
and you don't like me girls, that's just a thing.
So me and Stacey, I've had several moments this season
where I actually am the bigger person. I'm like, girl,
I don't want to do that with you no more.
We're done with it. But Stacy actually, when we were
in Nevis, there was a moment where she really wanted
to get to know Angel better and be good friends
with Angel, and I said, well, you're putting a whole
lot of effort into Stacy. You always say that I
(16:02):
don't want be your friend she said, because I'm not
interested in friendship with you, but.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
You can't be friends with my best friend.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And then no, no, it's fine if you be friends
with my best friend. But let's let's move the fact
that Kay has a problem with you, because at this point,
then maybe you have a problem with Kay.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So you know, maybe it started with the whole Monique
situation too, that you know, saying that she dated moniques
ex husband.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was yeah,
you know, it's one of those bones that I'm like, yeah,
but here's the deal, here's the deal. It's honesty. And
guess what, Monique, you've been out of the game for
a while and I'm not so I know what goes
on here, you know. And so it was it was
a girl cold moment again for me where I'm like, hey, girls,
just so we clear because everybody will smile up in
(16:45):
your face and they don't know the deal. But Money
didn't care, so great.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, money gets past that, thank god. But I do
want to say with Stacy, I'm still so they only
went out, she said, and that's it. Nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It was like a that's what she said, that's what
I don't know, Okay, yeah, I don't know. We don't know.
I don't know. That's what she said. So it's whatever
Stacey said.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now watching this latest episode with Ashley and her boyfriend,
I guess she broke up with him. And that's another thing.
People thought it was really mean how she did it.
And I want to get your thoughts on that scene
where Ashley called her boyfriend Josh out there sitting down
and she's basically like, look, I don't know if your
finances are together for us to continue this situation. She's
(17:24):
thinking into the future. What did you think about that scene?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You know what, here's the thing. This is the thing.
This is the thing people love to pick and choose
what's mean and what's nice when you're telling your real life.
You know, people wanted to know about her dating life. Yeah,
so she said, okay, well this is what my dating
life is like. She had decided that she didn't want
to be with him anymore, and that was her decision
to tell him. If he wanted to say, hey, I'll
come and join you for this conversation, if he had
(17:49):
said no, I don't want to join you for this
conversation and cameras ambush him, and she's like, hey, it's
over because you're broke. Then I'd be like, oh, now,
that's just crazy. That's not what she did. She's like, look,
let's shout about it. Unfortunately. I mean I probably felt
like he was a casualty a war there. But at
the end of the day, I think she was being honest.
People wanted to know what was going on with her
if she ended it. She said she didn't. That's what
she did.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right, You're like, and I'm backing happy in my relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Listen, because people have to understand when real relationships, I'm
sure you have the luxury of navigating whatever's happening in
your life the way that you liked it, right, not
on cameras. You don't have a camera to kind of
say what's going on actually in your life or your relationship.
So it's like, these are the things that we actually
do want to see in other people. That's why I
say people pick and choose when they say, oh, we
(18:35):
don't want to see that, because at the end of
the day, she was still giving you what's happening in
her life.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Now, Okay, what are some things that you wish would
have been shown about you that didn't make it to
the final edits.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oh my goodness, mostly like you running it back to
us high here you go? Is this thing on? Let
me run it out? So a few things that I
wish would have been shown is that I wish that
they would have shown a lot of my conversations before
me and Wendy had the conversations that we did have. Okay,
so I think the whole thing where it just seems
like out of nowhere, Wendy. I actually didn't come into
(19:09):
the beginning of the season like, yeah, I'm gonna have
an issue with Whitney. It actually wasn't really like that.
It was really like, guys, am, I reading this right?
Is this a little shady kind of you kind of thing?
But it was once we got to the bloom Ball
and we were addressing. First of all, her sit down
with Giselle was something that we all could have addressed
because it was something that she said negatively about the
(19:30):
entire group. But if I'm your homegirl, you wouldn't have
an issue with me sitting down and joining it on
a chat whether you feel like we're in a good
place or a bad place. Right, If I genuinely ever
liked you I'm not gonna act like I'm not gonna
throw shade on you when you're trying to join the
chat because you don't know what I'm gonna say whether
you this is what you've already made me the villain
in your mind, That's what I'm saying. It seems like, kay, is, well,
(19:50):
why did you think it was gonna be that? Why
couldn't we just had a chat. But you're telling somebody
I don't want you to sit here are we cool?
So that we're really not cool before I can't even
get it out right. You're changing the dynamic here. You know.
Also another time in Nevis when I was there, I
actually gave Wendy earrings for her birthday after they made
such a big deal like, oh, you were so rude,
you left the party, and I said, you know what,
let's leave whatever issues that we had here, Let's leave
(20:13):
the Nevas and let's go back home and just kind
of like you know, start on a new foot. And
it's just real flip floppy. So you guys didn't see that.
I actually was a person that said, you know what,
I don't want us to have the beef anymore. Here's
here's my peace offering to you so that we can
kind of move on and at least be good coworkers
at best, you know what I mean, we could do
that at best. So though moments like that, and then
(20:33):
my business, you know, I don't I had a toxin
caveyar event. So outside of the chin check comet that
came out of that, it was beautiful. We seen my
actual real patients coming there, They.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Got service, they got services there.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yet more of my business, more of the things that
I do, Like you see me getting the salmon sprm facial,
but that's actually my morning meet and greet with my
team to talk about sal.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, you need it.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's peptids. It's like having the maximum skincare injected in
your face.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You want to call it something else, No, we want
to call it that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
She has a little ring to it, because then like,
what's that the thing you need? Know? Okay, we're gonna
do it together. So yeah, it's things like that my business,
you know. You know, even Greg and I think it
just seems like we just got back together. Greg and
I actually did therapy, you know, this season, like we
actually say, don't like being on.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
This does not And that's an and so tell me, like,
how do you navigate that? Because there is a compromise, right,
that is something that you're doing. This is a job,
this is and for him, it's not a space that
he necessarily wants to be in, but he's doing it.
And I feel like maybe that added to some of
the issues y'all had earlier.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't know, but it totally did, because it's like,
you know, as a man, naturally, he has his processes.
You know, he wants to do things his way and
his privacy and his comfort. But I will say this,
You know, we have a lot of chichen about men's
and some of y'all don't even have no men. Some
of y'all are not happy with your men. Some of
you are divorced, not divorced, some of you are, some
(22:10):
of you are confused. You know. It's a lot to
be said here, you know. And so what I like
to say is do what makes you happy. But as
far as Greg showing up, I give him kudos for that,
because this is at the end of day of my job.
I try to navigate it the best way I can
by respecting when he's available to actually do it, you
know what I mean, making it as comfortable as possible
by telling him, Hey, this is what may be going on.
(22:32):
I just try to communicate better because my first go
round at this I just expected, like, listen, you come on, dude,
I say, dude, I would. He's like, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
I mean, yeah, being a boss sometimes that personality is
that's hard.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There you go, because it doesn't start with him. It's
just knowing that this is a man, and I have
to like respect that he is a hominade to me.
You know, you got to ask are you available tomorrow?
Fel not. Hey, we're feeling them all from TENNI day,
like I got the kids, I got thinks of it.
So just finding the balance with respecting his time and
(23:06):
respecting the fact that he's being a willing participant. And
may I note that he has not missed any of
the events this season. He's at any and everything, whether
he mad face, said face, happy face, he is accounted for.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
So let's check that that's fine.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You're happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I know that there are some things you learned about
each other in therapy, Oh my god, about your relationship
and how to improve and make sure that you guys
stay cohesive.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
So one of the things that I learned is that
I'm just supernaturally independent. Right, My happiness does come from me,
which is like a lot of people happiness sometimes come
for other people. All of my happiness comes from me, right,
So I am the center of my attention. So I
have learned in therapy that when you invite people into
your life, you have to be a lot more open
and be a lot more flexible. Like you're so used
(23:52):
to being a quote unquote boss or a business person.
You think that everything. So just learning to turn that
part of me off so I can submit a little
bit more, right, right, being open to submission, and also
just greg learning that this is who I said I
want to be with and accepting that no she's not
your traditional woman, this is what makes her happy, and
just us find in the middle ground what that looks
(24:12):
like for our household. Right.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you made that decision and
that he was cool with.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, because you either you couldn't accept it or you don't.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
You know, did you did you film any sessions? I'm curious.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
We actually did film one, and I feel like they
would have asked for that. They filmed it and it
was so good, and I'm so mad that y'all didn't
see it because it was the one time where I
think it shows a lot more of how I am
in a relationship because I think it's it makes Greg
appear to be like this super strong like he is,
but it's actually I have a very big personality and
you know, I have a lot to say at all times.
(24:47):
I don't know if y'all know. So it's like it's
Greg the problem is Ka the problem? I don't know.
But we're so much alike second to that were the
same sign. We're so much alike that we're both Sagittarius, okaytarist.
So it's like your birthday is I'm November twenty eight
his birthday coming up?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
All right, So how did y'all get back together? Like,
even girl, you ain't following this?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
So how we get back together? Is that? So once
I moved out, I was actually kind of happy. I
was like, okay, this is gretch. Once I finally got
my live Connor was amazing. Once I got settled in
the condo, I was like, Okay, this is this is
this kind of like it and I think it's just
one of those things where time and he you know,
we were still in communication and then he just called
me one day and I was like, maybe we need
(25:30):
like to actually go like take a trip and actually
talk Jamaica, and like, may we know? It really was,
you know what, we are not complicated people like that.
It's like we're both very much like we can agree,
like we have our time and we'll think about it.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
A trip always worked, A trip always works.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And I think the trip was like we both.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
For like, never been on a trip with Josh Listen,
step it up, honey, stepped the cookies up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
We gotta get you on the trips, on the planes
and the things. But yeah, I think the trip was
really like our moment we were like, Okay, we we
can find PC and we can find some haptics. And
then deciding to go to therapy after we went on
the trip, because that was really like the main consensus
for me. It's like, Okay, maybe we need some help
to mediate the issues that you and I can't resolve
on our own.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
What would you say to people now that are watching
the show and they are they might have been like
I liked her before, but now that she's you know,
one of I'm not feeling her she's coming for Stacy.
She's doing this, she's got an issue with everybody. She's
making small things big deals. How would you respond to that?
Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know what I will respond by saying, at the
end of the day, guys, my issues are always valid,
whether you see the full story or not. You know,
sometimes you gotta see a person's journey. I think people
are also have to realize they're watching me as a housewife,
so they there are other sides. And I'm not always
gonna be nice. I'm not always gonna talk to you nice.
But I don't start things. I'm gonna clarify that I
do not start things now. I will bring you the
(26:52):
facts after we addressed it. But I don't normally like
to think that I start things. And I think even
with the stacy of it all, it's like, at the
end of the day, we're all on TV, We're all
trying to have moment, We're all trying to have a conversation.
You know. That's what we're here to do, is express ourselves.
And I think people are just learning that Kate is
more multifaceted than just being the nice.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
K they are. They gonna really be addressing, like Wendy
and Eddie and their issues.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Listen, I hope we address it all. You know, that's
what the reunion is for. Like, that's the open floor.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
For us to be on fire.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah, honey, y'all just be seen to put your popcorns on,
take your wigs off. Yeah, it's gonna be take it all. Yeah,
this kid's seed in honey. Yeah. But yeah, I think
this is what the reunion is for, all of these
little small moments that you know that you don't get
to see the things that need to get addressed, things
that happen off the camera.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We feel prepared.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Oh yeah, I feel super prepared. I'm ready. I'm like
a kid on the first day of school. Baby, where's
my outfit? Yeah, I'm ready. Now.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I saw something that was posted after the whole thing
happened with Wendy. They said that you had some issues
of fraud or something.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Lies never had an issue with fraud. First of all,
I'm glad we're talking about this because, you know, I
try not to get into like what do they call it,
like smut what you know what it called it, like
smut blogging When it gets to the stuff that's like,
oh guys, you guys were deep in the trash to
kind of make a moment. But let me address it
had nothing to do with me. I've never seen the
courtroom about it. You guys already know I had a
(28:15):
season of my life where I dated the bad boys,
right y'all know that we knew we had we had
a season in my life with Honeywore. I was like, Okay,
this is fun. They get all. I love it here.
We had had a season like any other girl. But listen,
I never been convicted. I never had a felony. It
was immediately dismissed because it had nothing to do with me.
It was really one of those catch catch a small
(28:36):
fish to get the big fish and had nothing to
do with me, which is why whoever was very very busy.
It actually was immediately dismissed inexpunge. So you know the
powers that be that was working overtime to try to
dig that little bit of dirt up.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
God blessed well, thank you for clearing that up. So
they try to bring it up on the reunion.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, honey, listen, let me say something. Ain't no tea
on that, ain't no dirt on that, honey. They got
the people. It ain't had nothing to do with me.
It was dismissed. I ain't had no foundies. They got
to pay people. God bless him. Listen, I don't have
no felonies, no melodies. I ain't got no fraud. I
didn't need to do fraud. And let me just be clear,
I literally have been a business owner my entire life,
even just be in position to be able to buy
(29:13):
my business, sell my business within my family. This is
what I do.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Okay, So this is coming to her if you because
I could have helped a few people out, so you
didn't have to get that a little bit of a
chow cold once to get assessive. All right, okay, well
we're locked in. Thank you so much for coming on.
This was a pleasure to talk to you, and I
appreciate just how cool you were to talk to and yeah,
just open about everything.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
I appreciate it. Now. I appreciate you asking me the
questions this, honey, one thing. The girl's always try to
gag you, but I live in my truth.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So yeah, all right, let's see.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
What happens next. I'm waiting to way up
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