Maury Povich Talks Jimmy Kimmel Suspension, On & Off With Connie Chung, Paternity Test Shocks + More
September 23, 2025 • 33 mins
Maury Povich Talks Jimmy Kimmel Suspension, On & Off With Connie Chung, Paternity Test Shocks + More
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
What's up? This way up with Angela Yee and Mano's
here with me.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And this is amazing because we had somebody that we
can truly say is a legend on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Today is here and here you go. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I haven't seen you since i've seen Charlemagne.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And I've been on the Moury Show before.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I know, You're amazing some of my cord on tape stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Sure it did. Yeah, just to be clear, that's what
I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Are you sure you weren't on the Paternity I don't
have any kids.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You don't want to come on my show?
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I want to come on the new show.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
There you go? Well have you had your friend Dave?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And my friend Connye Tongue was on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh wow, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I mean I don't know her personally, but I like
to look at her. It's like she's my friend. She
would be Yeah, I would really like her.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You would.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And you know what I love about this is a
whole different side of Marriy Povers that we get to
see because I feel like we've watched you as a
true journalist, and then we've watched you host The Maury Show,
which had an amazing run of thirty one years, one years,
thirty one years.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
So I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You were a kid, right, and you were staying home
from school. You were faking being so I was.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I was saying I was going I was going out
to school, going around my building, waiting for my mother
to go to work, and then winning back inside.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I did the same thing. I used to do the
same thing. My parents would leave for worgo right back home.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Yeah that is so, get a bagel, and then this
is why you turned out like this.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well we're in the same place.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, can you imagine? I always wanted to know how
these kids stayed at home to watch me, pretending they
were sick, how they were how they were fooling their parents.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
The parents have to work, they couldn't you know.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I used to forge the note like you have to
bring up noted. I used to fork, and even when
my mom knew I was home, I still forged it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So it was consistent. So I was very clever.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Could you write with her with her.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Hair writing look like? Because it was always me. That's
how I got it done.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You had to sign the report cards to I signed it.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
She's such a crook, such a crub.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But you know, and to be fair, things are so
different now.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You're right because if we didn't catch it when it
was on, unless you had a VHS tape that you
could record it and watch it later.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Back then, there was no DVR.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, no online to go see clips or anything like that.
And now look, I bet you are also raking in
the views online from those old episodes.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Still.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, first of all, the show is all the repeats
are on regular TV two hundred stations across the country.
Plus I got millions of viewers on YouTube, millions of
viewers on Facebook, millions of viewers on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Isn't that amazing Instagram?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Some of those kids, they didn't know who the father
was grown up now, Like look at me when I
was on Worry as a kid.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, I was on so long that I would have
a kid who was like a year or two on
the show, found out that the and the father found
out he was the father. So he went into the
life of the kid. Now the kids in her twenties, wow,
And I brought them all back to the show to
show everybody. That's why I did the damn show was
(03:26):
to find out if if there's these fathers were getting it,
get in the lives of these kids.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Nobody was doing shows like this, like what made you
come with the live detective test, the paternity test out
of control?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Right like what made you go in that area right there?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I was always looking for for stories that had drama
and had conflict and had most important a result, so
that the viewers knew at the end of the second
whether they were the father or not, or whether this
guy was messing around on his significant other, or whether
(04:08):
there's out of controlled teenager would get you know, get straight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know, I saw your episode with caramo Oh you
did yes, which was amazing, and I saw you told
him the element of surprise and authenticity is really important
when it comes to doing what you do. And you
didn't even know results ahead of time, because that's.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The best thing I ever said.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
You never knew the results.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The first time we ever did the paternity show. The
producer was briefing me right before I had read all
about the story and and she was the producer was
briefing me, and she says, and the results. I said,
you know, I don't want to know the rest. I
don't want to know anything more than the guests or
the live audience or the audience at home, because if
(04:52):
I knew something more, then I would skew questions because
I knew the answer. So the whole inflection that ends
up being the big iconic line, you are the father
or you're not the father, was because I was as
surprised as anybody.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
It's like a cliffhanger every episode, and we just went
through that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We just did that, flashing back to some old episodes
and I'm like, they got the same mouth.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
How about this? How about when you put the picture
of the baby up so a guy would come in
African America would come in, he says, I will not
be the father of that child. That child is a
white child, you know, this picture of a very light baby,
and he ends up for the father.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Why did they always run though, God?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Because either the guy you know, went crazy because he
thought he wasn't the father and he was, or the
woman found out that he wasn't the father and she
was sure he was the Father's.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, everybody's always sure, and they feel humiliated or embarrassed
and they run off the stay And if the guy
doesn't want to be the father, and I prove he's.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Not the father. I mean, you would have thought they were.
In the Olympics. They do backflips on that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They go, give everybody a high.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Five in the crowd, run through the crowd.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The guy always gets booed when he comes up there too,
like when he's saying he's not the father, and then
he comes out, everybody's like boom.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He gets booed so hard.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But a lot of times you know he's not and
we're just booing this man.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We don't even know what the result is.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know, earlier you said something that was interesting to
me when you said, twenty years later, bring him back
some of those kids. And that's why you do it,
because people would say, you know, there were some critics.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh thought I was exploiting people and things like that,
and I said, look, if I can get a father
into the life of a child who has who would
have grown up with a single parent and now they
grew up with two parents, you know that child's got
a better chance of life. And so that's why I
do the show. Now. It didn't always happen, of course,
there were the guys when I proved they were the father.
(06:56):
They never got into the lives of the kids, but
there were many who do. And the one the success
stories I used to bring back on the air.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And even paying for them because I saw one woman
was like, the guy wanted her to pay for the
paternity test, and she was like, no, you pay for it,
but now we can go to Maury and get it done.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And by the way, they're expensive. They're like one thousand
dollars for a fraternity test for the real stuff, not
the at home crap that you can buy in a
drug store.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
All right, So now back at it with on par
with Maury Povitch. That's on every Monday, the first episode
March thirty. First, you had your wife on Connie Tongue
and y'all made some headlines with that one.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, we had this thing where there were questions we
didn't know about, and you picked a question out of
a mug, and she picks a question to ask me.
It says, when are you sexiest? And the only thing
I could think of was Sundays they and she said, well,
(08:01):
what do you mean. I said, you know what I mean.
It's Sundays with Connie. I mean, that's what it is.
Sundays with Connie and and she goes, well, I'm not
going to say anything more about that, and then everybody
went viral, like that's when we do it on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You know, it's different having viral moments about you instead
of about other people.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, believe it or not. You get more of
a reaction if it's about you. Because all those years
I did the show, it was about the other people.
It wasn't about me. People didn't know about my life,
my experiences.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Now people starting to be able to tap into.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, now I can Now I can start. Now I
can start talking the way Oprah talked.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Question back in those days was a Jerry Springer competition.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well, yes, shows at the same time. We were friends
for years.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean first of all, way way way back when
we first started talk shows. It was the same year,
nineteen ninety one. We both started the same year. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was on Channel nine in New York, I think,
and uh and so Jerry and I known each other forever.
(09:26):
He gave me the best compliment, and this is what
it was. He would tell anybody. He say, Mari, your
show is the real deal, and my show is wrestling.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We were Yeah, some of those things could not fly today. Boy,
I would say they used to have that is it
a man or a woman? And then you had to guess.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh wow, we used to have these beauty contests. I
mean we couldn't do it today. We wouldn't. The title
of the show was is it a Man or a Roman?
And I'm telling you, man, as close as I am
to you, you couldn't tell. You could not tell me,
(10:13):
Yeah that's a woman, that's a man, and the audience
would would would make a list. Nobody ever got it right,
nobody And if we had ten people on half of
them were men and half of them were women, would
not fly today.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
So do you find it like nowadays? Is everything we
living in a different world? Right? Terrible?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Nobody can you can't do anything anything.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
You can't even joke in that kind of fashion.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Now, tell me what do you think comics are going
to do? Now? Listen, I with Jimmy Kimmel off.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I definitely wanted to bring that up to you, seeing
what's happening with Jimmy Kimmel and I saw they just
put out an open.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Letter from the A C.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
L U condemning, you know, just for them doing that
and taking him off the air and suspending him. You
know they're in talks to try to put him back
on the air. Number One, if you were Jimmy Kimmel,
what would you do in a situation like that?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I would This is what I would do. I would
try to get back on the air. But at the
same time, don't tell me to apologize. I'll explain what
I did. I'll explain why I did it. I will
explain what I meant when I said it, not what
people thought I meant. But I'm not going to apologize
for something like that. And you know, Disney can either
(11:34):
put him back on the air or not. And you know,
this is really a serious thing, and I'll tell you why.
It's because the FCC chairman basically said, I'm going to
go after stations and their licenses if they put guys
like this on the air. And I mean, you talk
(11:54):
about you heavy handed. And just first of all, it's illegal, right,
I mean freedom of speech maybe First Amendment. First Amendment
along with religion and the press and freedom of speech.
It's right there. They didn't make it the thirteenth Amendment.
They made it the First Amendment.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Right, he's setting a bad president, terrible.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You think that he's going to try to make him apologize,
that's well.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think what happened was somebody I read something where
they had a meeting after these stations were going to
take that particular show off the air. They had a
meeting and they asked Jimmy to apologize, and he wouldn't.
He said, I'll explain it, but I'm not going to apologize,
and so that's when they pulled the show.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And even executives at this they don't think he necessarily
did anything wrong. It's just pressure from the president and
this whole marriage that they're trying to get done.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right, because the stations that pulled the owner of the
station's next star that pulled the show off their thirty
e ABC affiliates, is trying to buy another set of
huge stations and the law doesn't allow them right now
to own that many stations, and so they, I mean,
(13:14):
everybody thinks they took the show off the air because
they wanted the FCC approval of this merger.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, and by the way, Brandan Carr from the FCC,
he's also the same person that helped write part of
Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
For you know a lot about this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, it's you know, I've been following this story because
I think for all of us it's something that we
need to make sure we're aware of.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I'll tell you it's and it is really bad. I've
seen a lot of you know, I was there in
Watergate with Richard Nixon, and I saw how he hated
the press and how he tried to marginalize everything through
the FCC. But I have never seen it this bad
with an FC A government chairman of the FCC Commission
(14:00):
and the Federal Communications Commission basically come out and say
we're going to take you off the air, and if
you don't do it my way, you can't exist.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And Donald Trump is saying anybody that's critical of him.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
The only thing he said was that about ninety five
percent of the State of the network's news networks don't
like him. It's probably right, probably right.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I mean, yeah, and how could you when I can't
even properly report on things. I think part of the
job of the president is to be criticized, right, because what.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
President doesn't matter? Every president is critical.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, there's no thing.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Obama was criticized no way all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, unfairly at.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Times, I mean, and he said, you know, bring it on.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And I think that's the mark of a true great leader,
somebody that can take that, because there is this country
is so far from perfect. So of course we have
criticisms and things we should be able to voice that.
That's how things get better, right when you can absolutely so,
I mean, and think about your career in journalism and
your father, your father was Your.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Father was a sports writer for the Washington Post for seventy.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Five years, so you grew up.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And let me tell you what else he did, may
know which I'm so proud of. Jackie Robinson was the
first black place right nineteen forty seven. My father in
the nineteen thirties, we're writing about these black players in
the negro leagues that were much better than the white
players in the major leagues and how they and all
(15:33):
this talent was being wasted and as he wrote, because
of the color of their skin. So he wrote that
was in the third, amazing third.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Before Jackie Robinson, was eight or.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Nine years before Jackie Robinson. And then I'll tell you
another story. I grew up believe it or not, in DC, Washington,
d C. The DMV when I grew up, six town
was sixty percent black, okay always, and the reason was
because it was the first city for Southern blacks to
(16:09):
go to to get a job because of the federal government,
because they couldn't get jobs anywhere else in the South
because the whites controlled everything, so they got government jops
and so a majority of the people in the city
were black. The football team, the Washington Redskins, was an
all the last all white pro football team, all white,
(16:34):
owned by a guy named George Preston Marshall. So my
father would write every Sunday he wrote this, the Redskins
came on the field in their colors burgundy, golden, Caucasian.
Then he would write, Jim Brown integrated the Redskins end
zone five times today, like that's.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Where you get.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So he basically said, if this racist owner wanted a
new stadium and the federal government had to give permission,
he had to integrate that football team, and he finally
did in nineteen sixty one with a great Hall of
Fame player named Bobby Mitchell from the Cleveland Browns and
that's we got a trade for him, and that's how
(17:20):
the color barrier was broken. So anyhow, my father was
at the forefront of that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And I want to say, part of what we're loving
about this podcast is hearing more about you and your.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Life, about me and my father and my wife and
your mom.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I hear it, like in the first episode with
you and Connie Toong just heard talking about how much
she loves your parents, how much she loves your mom.
We heard about your road rage, we heard about hot rage.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh my god, oh my god, this is no way
you could be in New York.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Firs all go away. No, well, this is how the
road rage came. Okay, years and years ago, we used
to have a home in New Jersey for the weekends.
We used to go. We didn't like we could give
a ship about the Hampton's and all that stuff, so
we went to Jersey. And he's a Jersey shore So
every Friday we would try to get through the goddamn
(18:09):
Lincoln Tunnel and I would be going crazy. Okay, And
so our son is in the in the back seat,
and so we're at dinner one time and we're saying,
what's your first memory, and so his memory was, I'm
driving through the tunnel. I'm going crazy because of the traffic,
(18:33):
and I'm throwing F bombs every which way and Connie says,
stop that. Matthews in the back, he'll hear you. I said,
he's three years old. He won't hear anything. He says.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
The first memory yet was of that conversation and me
throwing out F bomb.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
But that's what I'm saying, is these moments and these
stories because we also the dynamic between you and Connie
is just amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Even to see how long you guys, she's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
There's nothing coming everything. You would not believe what's coming
out of her. Man, you never know. I mean, it's
just and I think you know we've been married over
forty years now, and so I mean, I think that
man no sense of humor. Baby, if you don't have
a sense of you got to have one. Your mate
has to have.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
A She hasna wants to get married so bad.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, oh you are, I'm planning it. Does I'm telling
you right now, I hope she has a sense.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
She has to have it. Got this, She has to
have a sension. It's at the top of the list.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The first five things exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
If you can't laugh at each other.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I need it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We have to get you an ai wife or something.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Playing my wedding.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Do you have the woman?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
No, I'm planning a wedding. We don't tell about it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
We don't have the woman.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
We don't have the woman.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
How many kids you got?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I got two?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Okay, okay, in your lives.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Absolutely, But I want to plan my wedding. Want to
find my woman.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I want I want to plan the wedding and then
find them.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
He said that the woman would like the way you're planning.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It's about me putting the cart before the horse. Sometimes.
I got to manifest this thing, hear me. I gotta,
I gotta put this thing into the universe. Come on, Maury.
Oh my god, I am the father.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I'm so glad that I'm out the game. Right, more
so glad the game.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
No you are.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I know you're glad.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I'm again. I haven't been in the game. It's so long.
I mean pictures were black and white.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh my gosh. Now listen, and so I want to
talk about the podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Are you married?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
No, I'm not married, but I'm in a relationship.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Oh how long?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
How long has it been? Like over almost three years.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Good.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Oh yeah, God, well we dated like seven years off
and on before we got married.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's how so you guys been not exclusive and talking
about that because then you brought me.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean she was. She was in l A.
She was in l A big star in l A
and dating.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
People that she cheated. But it was really.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I I went out with. I went only Jesus. And
then she said, you can't even remember the first names
of the people you go out. That's what she would
tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And and she had some good ones, though she.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Had some big ones.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
She lived.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Whoa big names. Okay, guys, I mean big names.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I don't know about those things. She was never that specific.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I can't take God, but I had understanding. I was like, yeah,
we wasn't going to be exclusive.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
When did you say it's time to lock it in?
No more of this than who said that?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
First I asked her she didn't want to get married.
Then about six months later she asked me. I said,
I'm not ready. And then about two months later she
calls me up and she says we can get married.
And I said, really, how come? She says, because I
found a dress.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Oh that's all it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, I found a dress.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
She found a dress like.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
That.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
It was unconventioned.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But I mean, I mean on a platonic side. I mean,
you wouldn't believe the people. When she was working in
La she used to go she used to go get
chicken and waffles with Magic all the time. Her and
Magic buddy buddies, I mean all the time. Yeah. Uh.
She was the first person to get an interview with
(22:53):
Michael Jordan when he had all that gambling issue with
way back, remember you quit the team. Now she's allegend's
She had the first interview with Magic about HIV. And
I mean she is a dog ass reporter, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, didn't you say on nine to eleven you
saw her outside when you were trying to get home
and she was doing interviews.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean that's wild.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I was like one of the first power couples. Yeah there,
before it became a thing on social media.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Well, it's really the power has been turned off for a.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Long Oh wow, Now let me ask you this, So
what made you say it's time for me to do
this podcast?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But too many people, I mean they started talking to
me about this thing, and they just it's like the
Pacino Line and the Godfather. You know, they dragged me
back in. They just dragged me back in. And then
I thought, well, nobody knows about this other life of
mine before the talk show. So I said, okay, I'll
try it. So we just finished our first season and uh,
(24:06):
we got a lot of big interviews on the podcast. Uh,
they're going to start very shortly, and uh uh we'll
get you guys on. We would love to get you guys.
And by the way, get you on talk about about
all I want to talk about. The wedding. Absolutely absolutely
got the venue picked.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Out, the deposit picked up. I'm going to tell you this.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I just got back from Vegas this morning, and I
knew that you. I was like, first, everybody's here for you.
Like Mano normally would would have left. He said, I'm
staying because I got to meet more.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Me is here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He came in here today. Ess, so he get a
picture with you, and that's how important it is.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
So we I'm impressed.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
We're impressed because I thought I was because I never
want you to forget like.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I thought I was an antique.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, I know you're about to be a great grandfather.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
All right, Well, I hope. I got my first grandchild's
getting married in a couple of months, so we're going
to that and then we'll see who knows.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Can you imagine how cool it be to say, like,
my great grandfather is Mari Povich?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Like do you realize though, like just how like impactful
you've been to the culture and how many people really like.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, it's interesting. I never thought that for a
long time, and then all of a sudden, all these
waves of you know, congratulations and all that and what
people and what I meant to what the show meant
to show many people, And I'm just so gratified. I
(25:42):
think one of the reasons the show was successful was
I never I never had any big shot itis. You know,
I never really thought of myself as I didn't have
an ego, right right right, And I think, look, the
first thing you do as a host, you've got to
make a connection with those viewers. You're not going to last.
(26:06):
I mean, in thirty some years, seventy five daytime talk
shows are in the graveyard failed. And the reason why
a host makes a connection, You've got to knock on
a door of people's homes. They have to want you
to come in wants you to sit down, either have
dinner with them or sit and watch TV with them,
(26:27):
and you've got to make a connection. And I'm so
happy that all over the years I was able to
make that connection. And the most amazing thing is my
experience in life is nothing like my guest's experience in life.
I mean, they had issues that I've never gone through,
(26:48):
but at the same time, they thought that they could
unburden themselves and felt that my place was a safe place.
And so just think it's basic human instinct and basic
human kindness and understanding that makes it happen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know, after thirty one seasons, when you stopped doing
the show, how was that for you? Because that's like
something that's over three decades of having, you know, and
when you think about it, though, how was that for
you to say, Okay, I am stepping away from this.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I wanted to step away four years before okay, and
the executives at NBC, which owned my show, said no, no, no,
you know they're still watching this. So I signed a
two year deal. And then after that I said, okay,
I said no, two more years. So finally, when I
(27:43):
was eighty three years old.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I said, and that work schedule, schedules like, what y'all
shooting every day?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
No, we shoot like two or three days a week.
But we would shoot two to three shows a day,
so we would can about five shows in one week,
and we would have one hundred and fifty and two
hundred shows a year.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Right here in New York.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Started in New York, but but moved to Stamford, Connecticut
the last ten years or so.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But that's when I went to Connecticut. I was I
was like, I never know they filmed in Stanford, Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Did we send you a car?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You guys did in the car? Yes, I appreciate it. It's
not like.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
The Today Show. I didn't want to my wife used to.
My wife used to say about the Today Show when
you had to get up real early, says, it's a
little like being a prostitute. They pick you up in
a limousine, but you got to find your own way home.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
We're going to get you there to make sure you're there, but.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Things have changed, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, I just want to say I appreciate you so
much for coming through. I'm excited about this podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Good, I'm glad. Now you all have to come on.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh, that's a given. I would love to hopefully have
you a next month or so.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
No, definitely, I can't believe yet the wedding.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And you don't have a partner yet yet.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I feel like I could, I could just feel in
and fill in the blanks.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Now, let me ask you this, if you if you
see the future so specifically with the event, what's the
mate look like?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Beautiful sense of humor?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Bbl stop it?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Have you? Have you ever ever met a person like that?
Speaker 6 (29:25):
In passing? I feel like but I feel like everyone
that I met that was like that. Yeah, might have
been crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He asked me. Why didn't warning crazy?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Crazy does not work in a marriage?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, I mean, but only one of you can be.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I'll put it through this way. A little goofy is fine.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
That's crazy. Is not that we don't we don't do crazy.
Crazy means line.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Crazy means that there could be some physicality we don't
want to don't want.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
I don't want to be beat. Ye, I don't want
to be beat.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But you know, I will say. Mano likes to argue.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think it gets him going, Like he'll come in
here certain days and he's on the phone arguing with
somebody and he loves it, like he'll be like, oh
my god, it's not crazy, I know, but you like arguing,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
That's a little control chaos.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Like that, God, control chaos.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
My show was chaos sometimes.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Don't it courage more?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah? Yeah, controlled chaos like that because there's an end
to it.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's controlled in a controlled environment.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You think everybody should get a paternity test, like when
I've heard people say when children are born automatically, it
should be a paternity I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
One of the reasons why we even did the show
was as it started, the New York Time, this is crazy.
The New York Times did a wide survey and found
out ten percent of the kids in the country are
with the wrong father.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I can see that. That's a wild number.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I mean, think about that.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, listen, and with twenty three and me and all
this DNA testing, now a lot of people are finding
out that the person that they thought was their father
their whole life is not. I know, personally, people who
that's happened, don't.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Rely on twenty three and me. That might be a starter,
but you still got to get it.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, you still got to do it, but it also
just leads Sometimes people grow up kind of knowing that
but not knowing for sure. You should see how many
people call up this show for tell us a secret.
We have a segment where people do their confessions right,
and they call up and are like, yeah, my husband
or you know, thinks that's his kid but it's not.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Yeah, that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, it happens a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And then there's people who have found that out, you know,
that it's not really their father, and they found out
who their real father is.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
So I think that's one of the reasons for the
popularity of the show.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, which by the way, is still on today today
along with par With that's right right on YouTube, Spotify, Apple,
any of your podcast platform.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Good job, he's a professional. I'm par and listen.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
No matter what, we were in here watching some of
these oh, we had to be like hold on, hold on,
we can't go up yet.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
We got to find out what the result is like
even to this day.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
You know, I know a lot of NFL players watch
the show and stuff like that, and all of them
tell me they're in the locker room during the morning.
My show's on the air. The coaches are up on
the field with their whistles trying to get them up,
and they won't come up till they find out who
the father is. Yeah. Absolutely, And then Shaq used to
(32:46):
tell me that he and his buddies bet on whether
they were the father or not.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
We all bet in our head, like no, that's definitely,
that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I was definitely wrong today a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh boy, all right, well, congratulations again and I cannot
wait for us to come and join you on on
your platform Living next season, Yeah, next season, Mary Povich
What's up? This way up with Angela Yee and Mano's
here with me.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
And this is amazing because we had somebody that we
can truly say is a legend on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Today is here and here you go. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I haven't seen you since i've seen Charlemagne.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And I've been on the Moury Show before.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I know, You're amazing some of my cord on tape stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Sure it did. Yeah, just to be clear, that's what
I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Are you sure you weren't on the Paternity I don't
have any kids.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
You don't want to come on my show?
Speaker 5 (00:39):
I want to come on the new show.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
There you go? Well have you had your friend Dave?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
And my friend Connye Tongue was on.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Oh wow, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I mean I don't know her personally, but I like
to look at her. It's like she's my friend. She
would be Yeah, I would really like her.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
You would.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
And you know what I love about this is a
whole different side of Marriy Povers that we get to
see because I feel like we've watched you as a
true journalist, and then we've watched you host The Maury Show,
which had an amazing run of thirty one years, one years,
thirty one years.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
So I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
You were a kid, right, and you were staying home
from school. You were faking being so I was.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I was saying I was going I was going out
to school, going around my building, waiting for my mother
to go to work, and then winning back inside.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I did the same thing. I used to do the
same thing. My parents would leave for worgo right back home.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Yeah that is so, get a bagel, and then this
is why you turned out like this.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well we're in the same place.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, can you imagine? I always wanted to know how
these kids stayed at home to watch me, pretending they
were sick, how they were how they were fooling their parents.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
The parents have to work, they couldn't you know.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I used to forge the note like you have to
bring up noted. I used to fork, and even when
my mom knew I was home, I still forged it.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So it was consistent. So I was very clever.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Could you write with her with her.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Hair writing look like? Because it was always me. That's
how I got it done.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You had to sign the report cards to I signed it.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
She's such a crook, such a crub.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
But you know, and to be fair, things are so
different now.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
You're right because if we didn't catch it when it
was on, unless you had a VHS tape that you
could record it and watch it later.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Back then, there was no DVR.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right, no online to go see clips or anything like that.
And now look, I bet you are also raking in
the views online from those old episodes.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Still.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well, first of all, the show is all the repeats
are on regular TV two hundred stations across the country.
Plus I got millions of viewers on YouTube, millions of
viewers on Facebook, millions of viewers on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Isn't that amazing Instagram?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Some of those kids, they didn't know who the father
was grown up now, Like look at me when I
was on Worry as a kid.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, I was on so long that I would have
a kid who was like a year or two on
the show, found out that the and the father found
out he was the father. So he went into the
life of the kid. Now the kids in her twenties, wow,
And I brought them all back to the show to
show everybody. That's why I did the damn show was
(03:26):
to find out if if there's these fathers were getting it,
get in the lives of these kids.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Nobody was doing shows like this, like what made you
come with the live detective test, the paternity test out
of control?
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Right like what made you go in that area right there?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I was always looking for for stories that had drama
and had conflict and had most important a result, so
that the viewers knew at the end of the second
whether they were the father or not, or whether this
guy was messing around on his significant other, or whether
(04:08):
there's out of controlled teenager would get you know, get straight.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
You know, I saw your episode with caramo Oh you
did yes, which was amazing, and I saw you told
him the element of surprise and authenticity is really important
when it comes to doing what you do. And you
didn't even know results ahead of time, because that's.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
The best thing I ever said.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
You never knew the results.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
The first time we ever did the paternity show. The
producer was briefing me right before I had read all
about the story and and she was the producer was
briefing me, and she says, and the results. I said,
you know, I don't want to know the rest. I
don't want to know anything more than the guests or
the live audience or the audience at home, because if
(04:52):
I knew something more, then I would skew questions because
I knew the answer. So the whole inflection that ends
up being the big iconic line, you are the father
or you're not the father, was because I was as
surprised as anybody.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
It's like a cliffhanger every episode, and we just went
through that.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We just did that, flashing back to some old episodes
and I'm like, they got the same mouth.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
How about this? How about when you put the picture
of the baby up so a guy would come in
African America would come in, he says, I will not
be the father of that child. That child is a
white child, you know, this picture of a very light baby,
and he ends up for the father.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Why did they always run though, God?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Because either the guy you know, went crazy because he
thought he wasn't the father and he was, or the
woman found out that he wasn't the father and she
was sure he was the Father's.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, everybody's always sure, and they feel humiliated or embarrassed
and they run off the stay And if the guy
doesn't want to be the father, and I prove he's.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Not the father. I mean, you would have thought they were.
In the Olympics. They do backflips on that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They go, give everybody a high.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Five in the crowd, run through the crowd.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
The guy always gets booed when he comes up there too,
like when he's saying he's not the father, and then
he comes out, everybody's like boom.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
He gets booed so hard.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But a lot of times you know he's not and
we're just booing this man.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We don't even know what the result is.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You know, earlier you said something that was interesting to
me when you said, twenty years later, bring him back
some of those kids. And that's why you do it,
because people would say, you know, there were some critics.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Oh thought I was exploiting people and things like that,
and I said, look, if I can get a father
into the life of a child who has who would
have grown up with a single parent and now they
grew up with two parents, you know that child's got
a better chance of life. And so that's why I
do the show. Now. It didn't always happen, of course,
there were the guys when I proved they were the father.
(06:56):
They never got into the lives of the kids, but
there were many who do. And the one the success
stories I used to bring back on the air.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
And even paying for them because I saw one woman
was like, the guy wanted her to pay for the
paternity test, and she was like, no, you pay for it,
but now we can go to Maury and get it done.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And by the way, they're expensive. They're like one thousand
dollars for a fraternity test for the real stuff, not
the at home crap that you can buy in a
drug store.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
All right, So now back at it with on par
with Maury Povitch. That's on every Monday, the first episode
March thirty. First, you had your wife on Connie Tongue
and y'all made some headlines with that one.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, we had this thing where there were questions we
didn't know about, and you picked a question out of
a mug, and she picks a question to ask me.
It says, when are you sexiest? And the only thing
I could think of was Sundays they and she said, well,
(08:01):
what do you mean. I said, you know what I mean.
It's Sundays with Connie. I mean, that's what it is.
Sundays with Connie and and she goes, well, I'm not
going to say anything more about that, and then everybody
went viral, like that's when we do it on Sundays.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You know, it's different having viral moments about you instead
of about other people.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, believe it or not. You get more of
a reaction if it's about you. Because all those years
I did the show, it was about the other people.
It wasn't about me. People didn't know about my life,
my experiences.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Now people starting to be able to tap into.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, now I can Now I can start. Now I
can start talking the way Oprah talked.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Question back in those days was a Jerry Springer competition.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well, yes, shows at the same time. We were friends
for years.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean first of all, way way way back when
we first started talk shows. It was the same year,
nineteen ninety one. We both started the same year. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was on Channel nine in New York, I think,
and uh and so Jerry and I known each other forever.
(09:26):
He gave me the best compliment, and this is what
it was. He would tell anybody. He say, Mari, your
show is the real deal, and my show is wrestling.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We were Yeah, some of those things could not fly today. Boy,
I would say they used to have that is it
a man or a woman? And then you had to guess.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh wow, we used to have these beauty contests. I
mean we couldn't do it today. We wouldn't. The title
of the show was is it a Man or a Roman?
And I'm telling you, man, as close as I am
to you, you couldn't tell. You could not tell me,
(10:13):
Yeah that's a woman, that's a man, and the audience
would would would make a list. Nobody ever got it right,
nobody And if we had ten people on half of
them were men and half of them were women, would
not fly today.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
So do you find it like nowadays? Is everything we
living in a different world? Right? Terrible?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Nobody can you can't do anything anything.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
You can't even joke in that kind of fashion.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Now, tell me what do you think comics are going
to do? Now? Listen, I with Jimmy Kimmel off.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I definitely wanted to bring that up to you, seeing
what's happening with Jimmy Kimmel and I saw they just
put out an open.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Letter from the A C.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
L U condemning, you know, just for them doing that
and taking him off the air and suspending him. You
know they're in talks to try to put him back
on the air. Number One, if you were Jimmy Kimmel,
what would you do in a situation like that?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I would This is what I would do. I would
try to get back on the air. But at the
same time, don't tell me to apologize. I'll explain what
I did. I'll explain why I did it. I will
explain what I meant when I said it, not what
people thought I meant. But I'm not going to apologize
for something like that. And you know, Disney can either
(11:34):
put him back on the air or not. And you know,
this is really a serious thing, and I'll tell you why.
It's because the FCC chairman basically said, I'm going to
go after stations and their licenses if they put guys
like this on the air. And I mean, you talk
(11:54):
about you heavy handed. And just first of all, it's illegal, right,
I mean freedom of speech maybe First Amendment. First Amendment
along with religion and the press and freedom of speech.
It's right there. They didn't make it the thirteenth Amendment.
They made it the First Amendment.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Right, he's setting a bad president, terrible.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You think that he's going to try to make him apologize,
that's well.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I think what happened was somebody I read something where
they had a meeting after these stations were going to
take that particular show off the air. They had a
meeting and they asked Jimmy to apologize, and he wouldn't.
He said, I'll explain it, but I'm not going to apologize,
and so that's when they pulled the show.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
And even executives at this they don't think he necessarily
did anything wrong. It's just pressure from the president and
this whole marriage that they're trying to get done.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Right, because the stations that pulled the owner of the
station's next star that pulled the show off their thirty
e ABC affiliates, is trying to buy another set of
huge stations and the law doesn't allow them right now
to own that many stations, and so they, I mean,
(13:14):
everybody thinks they took the show off the air because
they wanted the FCC approval of this merger.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, and by the way, Brandan Carr from the FCC,
he's also the same person that helped write part of
Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
For you know a lot about this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Well, it's you know, I've been following this story because
I think for all of us it's something that we
need to make sure we're aware of.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I'll tell you it's and it is really bad. I've
seen a lot of you know, I was there in
Watergate with Richard Nixon, and I saw how he hated
the press and how he tried to marginalize everything through
the FCC. But I have never seen it this bad
with an FC A government chairman of the FCC Commission
(14:00):
and the Federal Communications Commission basically come out and say
we're going to take you off the air, and if
you don't do it my way, you can't exist.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And Donald Trump is saying anybody that's critical of him.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, they're going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
The only thing he said was that about ninety five
percent of the State of the network's news networks don't
like him. It's probably right, probably right.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I mean, yeah, and how could you when I can't
even properly report on things. I think part of the
job of the president is to be criticized, right, because what.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
President doesn't matter? Every president is critical.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, there's no thing.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Obama was criticized no way all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, unfairly at.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Times, I mean, and he said, you know, bring it on.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And I think that's the mark of a true great leader,
somebody that can take that, because there is this country
is so far from perfect. So of course we have
criticisms and things we should be able to voice that.
That's how things get better, right when you can absolutely so,
I mean, and think about your career in journalism and
your father, your father was Your.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Father was a sports writer for the Washington Post for seventy.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Five years, so you grew up.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And let me tell you what else he did, may
know which I'm so proud of. Jackie Robinson was the
first black place right nineteen forty seven. My father in
the nineteen thirties, we're writing about these black players in
the negro leagues that were much better than the white
players in the major leagues and how they and all
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this talent was being wasted and as he wrote, because
of the color of their skin. So he wrote that
was in the third, amazing third.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Before Jackie Robinson, was eight or.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Nine years before Jackie Robinson. And then I'll tell you
another story. I grew up believe it or not, in DC, Washington,
d C. The DMV when I grew up, six town
was sixty percent black, okay always, and the reason was
because it was the first city for Southern blacks to
(16:09):
go to to get a job because of the federal government,
because they couldn't get jobs anywhere else in the South
because the whites controlled everything, so they got government jops
and so a majority of the people in the city
were black. The football team, the Washington Redskins, was an
all the last all white pro football team, all white,
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owned by a guy named George Preston Marshall. So my
father would write every Sunday he wrote this, the Redskins
came on the field in their colors burgundy, golden, Caucasian.
Then he would write, Jim Brown integrated the Redskins end
zone five times today, like that's.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Where you get.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So he basically said, if this racist owner wanted a
new stadium and the federal government had to give permission,
he had to integrate that football team, and he finally
did in nineteen sixty one with a great Hall of
Fame player named Bobby Mitchell from the Cleveland Browns and
that's we got a trade for him, and that's how
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the color barrier was broken. So anyhow, my father was
at the forefront of that.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And I want to say, part of what we're loving
about this podcast is hearing more about you and your.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Life, about me and my father and my wife and
your mom.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
And I hear it, like in the first episode with
you and Connie Toong just heard talking about how much
she loves your parents, how much she loves your mom.
We heard about your road rage, we heard about hot rage.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Oh my god, oh my god, this is no way
you could be in New York.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Firs all go away. No, well, this is how the
road rage came. Okay, years and years ago, we used
to have a home in New Jersey for the weekends.
We used to go. We didn't like we could give
a ship about the Hampton's and all that stuff, so
we went to Jersey. And he's a Jersey shore So
every Friday we would try to get through the goddamn
(18:09):
Lincoln Tunnel and I would be going crazy. Okay, And
so our son is in the in the back seat,
and so we're at dinner one time and we're saying,
what's your first memory, and so his memory was, I'm
driving through the tunnel. I'm going crazy because of the traffic,
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and I'm throwing F bombs every which way and Connie says,
stop that. Matthews in the back, he'll hear you. I said,
he's three years old. He won't hear anything. He says.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
The first memory yet was of that conversation and me
throwing out F bomb.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
But that's what I'm saying, is these moments and these
stories because we also the dynamic between you and Connie
is just amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Even to see how long you guys, she's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
There's nothing coming everything. You would not believe what's coming
out of her. Man, you never know. I mean, it's
just and I think you know we've been married over
forty years now, and so I mean, I think that
man no sense of humor. Baby, if you don't have
a sense of you got to have one. Your mate
has to have.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
A She hasna wants to get married so bad.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, oh you are, I'm planning it. Does I'm telling
you right now, I hope she has a sense.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
She has to have it. Got this, She has to
have a sension. It's at the top of the list.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The first five things exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
If you can't laugh at each other.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
I need it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
We have to get you an ai wife or something.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Playing my wedding.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Do you have the woman?
Speaker 6 (19:47):
No, I'm planning a wedding. We don't tell about it.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
We don't have the woman.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
We don't have the woman.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
How many kids you got?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I got two?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Okay, okay, in your lives.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Absolutely, But I want to plan my wedding. Want to
find my woman.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I want I want to plan the wedding and then
find them.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
He said that the woman would like the way you're planning.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
It's about me putting the cart before the horse. Sometimes.
I got to manifest this thing, hear me. I gotta,
I gotta put this thing into the universe. Come on, Maury.
Oh my god, I am the father.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I'm so glad that I'm out the game. Right, more
so glad the game.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
No you are.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I know you're glad.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I'm again. I haven't been in the game. It's so long.
I mean pictures were black and white.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh my gosh. Now listen, and so I want to
talk about the podcast.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Are you married?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
No, I'm not married, but I'm in a relationship.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Oh how long?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
How long has it been? Like over almost three years.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Good.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Oh yeah, God, well we dated like seven years off
and on before we got married.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's how so you guys been not exclusive and talking
about that because then you brought me.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, I mean she was. She was in l A.
She was in l A big star in l A
and dating.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
People that she cheated. But it was really.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I I went out with. I went only Jesus. And
then she said, you can't even remember the first names
of the people you go out. That's what she would
tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And and she had some good ones, though she.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Had some big ones.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
She lived.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Whoa big names. Okay, guys, I mean big names.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I don't know about those things. She was never that specific.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
I can't take God, but I had understanding. I was like, yeah,
we wasn't going to be exclusive.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
When did you say it's time to lock it in?
No more of this than who said that?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
First I asked her she didn't want to get married.
Then about six months later she asked me. I said,
I'm not ready. And then about two months later she
calls me up and she says we can get married.
And I said, really, how come? She says, because I
found a dress.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Oh that's all it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, I found a dress.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
She found a dress like.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
That.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
It was unconventioned.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But I mean, I mean on a platonic side. I mean,
you wouldn't believe the people. When she was working in
La she used to go she used to go get
chicken and waffles with Magic all the time. Her and
Magic buddy buddies, I mean all the time. Yeah. Uh.
She was the first person to get an interview with
(22:53):
Michael Jordan when he had all that gambling issue with
way back, remember you quit the team. Now she's allegend's
She had the first interview with Magic about HIV. And
I mean she is a dog ass reporter, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, didn't you say on nine to eleven you
saw her outside when you were trying to get home
and she was doing interviews.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
I mean that's wild.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I was like one of the first power couples. Yeah there,
before it became a thing on social media.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Well, it's really the power has been turned off for a.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Long Oh wow, Now let me ask you this, So
what made you say it's time for me to do
this podcast?
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But too many people, I mean they started talking to
me about this thing, and they just it's like the
Pacino Line and the Godfather. You know, they dragged me
back in. They just dragged me back in. And then
I thought, well, nobody knows about this other life of
mine before the talk show. So I said, okay, I'll
try it. So we just finished our first season and uh,
(24:06):
we got a lot of big interviews on the podcast. Uh,
they're going to start very shortly, and uh uh we'll
get you guys on. We would love to get you guys.
And by the way, get you on talk about about
all I want to talk about. The wedding. Absolutely absolutely
got the venue picked.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Out, the deposit picked up. I'm going to tell you this.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I just got back from Vegas this morning, and I
knew that you. I was like, first, everybody's here for you.
Like Mano normally would would have left. He said, I'm
staying because I got to meet more.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Me is here.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
He came in here today. Ess, so he get a
picture with you, and that's how important it is.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
So we I'm impressed.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
We're impressed because I thought I was because I never
want you to forget like.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I thought I was an antique.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
No, I know you're about to be a great grandfather.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
All right, Well, I hope. I got my first grandchild's
getting married in a couple of months, so we're going
to that and then we'll see who knows.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Can you imagine how cool it be to say, like,
my great grandfather is Mari Povich?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Like do you realize though, like just how like impactful
you've been to the culture and how many people really like.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know, it's interesting. I never thought that for a
long time, and then all of a sudden, all these
waves of you know, congratulations and all that and what
people and what I meant to what the show meant
to show many people, And I'm just so gratified. I
(25:42):
think one of the reasons the show was successful was
I never I never had any big shot itis. You know,
I never really thought of myself as I didn't have
an ego, right right right, And I think, look, the
first thing you do as a host, you've got to
make a connection with those viewers. You're not going to last.
(26:06):
I mean, in thirty some years, seventy five daytime talk
shows are in the graveyard failed. And the reason why
a host makes a connection, You've got to knock on
a door of people's homes. They have to want you
to come in wants you to sit down, either have
dinner with them or sit and watch TV with them,
(26:27):
and you've got to make a connection. And I'm so
happy that all over the years I was able to
make that connection. And the most amazing thing is my
experience in life is nothing like my guest's experience in life.
I mean, they had issues that I've never gone through,
(26:48):
but at the same time, they thought that they could
unburden themselves and felt that my place was a safe place.
And so just think it's basic human instinct and basic
human kindness and understanding that makes it happen.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know, after thirty one seasons, when you stopped doing
the show, how was that for you? Because that's like
something that's over three decades of having, you know, and
when you think about it, though, how was that for
you to say, Okay, I am stepping away from this.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I wanted to step away four years before okay, and
the executives at NBC, which owned my show, said no, no, no,
you know they're still watching this. So I signed a
two year deal. And then after that I said, okay,
I said no, two more years. So finally, when I
(27:43):
was eighty three years old.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I said, and that work schedule, schedules like, what y'all
shooting every day?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
No, we shoot like two or three days a week.
But we would shoot two to three shows a day,
so we would can about five shows in one week,
and we would have one hundred and fifty and two
hundred shows a year.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Right here in New York.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Started in New York, but but moved to Stamford, Connecticut
the last ten years or so.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
But that's when I went to Connecticut. I was I
was like, I never know they filmed in Stanford, Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Did we send you a car?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You guys did in the car? Yes, I appreciate it. It's
not like.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
The Today Show. I didn't want to my wife used to.
My wife used to say about the Today Show when
you had to get up real early, says, it's a
little like being a prostitute. They pick you up in
a limousine, but you got to find your own way home.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
We're going to get you there to make sure you're there, but.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Figure it out.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Things have changed, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, I just want to say I appreciate you so
much for coming through. I'm excited about this podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Good, I'm glad. Now you all have to come on.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh, that's a given. I would love to hopefully have
you a next month or so.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
No, definitely, I can't believe yet the wedding.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And you don't have a partner yet yet.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I feel like I could, I could just feel in
and fill in the blanks.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Now, let me ask you this, if you if you
see the future so specifically with the event, what's the
mate look like?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Beautiful sense of humor?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Bbl stop it?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Have you? Have you ever ever met a person like that?
Speaker 6 (29:25):
In passing? I feel like but I feel like everyone
that I met that was like that. Yeah, might have
been crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
He asked me. Why didn't warning crazy?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Crazy does not work in a marriage?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, I mean, but only one of you can be.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I'll put it through this way. A little goofy is fine.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
That's crazy. Is not that we don't we don't do crazy.
Crazy means line.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Crazy means that there could be some physicality we don't
want to don't want.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
I don't want to be beat. Ye, I don't want
to be beat.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But you know, I will say. Mano likes to argue.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think it gets him going, Like he'll come in
here certain days and he's on the phone arguing with
somebody and he loves it, like he'll be like, oh
my god, it's not crazy, I know, but you like arguing,
is what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
That's a little control chaos.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Like that, God, control chaos.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
What I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
My show was chaos sometimes.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Don't it courage more?
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah? Yeah, controlled chaos like that because there's an end
to it.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's controlled in a controlled environment.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
You think everybody should get a paternity test, like when
I've heard people say when children are born automatically, it
should be a paternity I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
One of the reasons why we even did the show
was as it started, the New York Time, this is crazy.
The New York Times did a wide survey and found
out ten percent of the kids in the country are
with the wrong father.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I can see that. That's a wild number.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
I mean, think about that.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, listen, and with twenty three and me and all
this DNA testing, now a lot of people are finding
out that the person that they thought was their father
their whole life is not. I know, personally, people who
that's happened, don't.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Rely on twenty three and me. That might be a starter,
but you still got to get it.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, you still got to do it, but it also
just leads Sometimes people grow up kind of knowing that
but not knowing for sure. You should see how many
people call up this show for tell us a secret.
We have a segment where people do their confessions right,
and they call up and are like, yeah, my husband
or you know, thinks that's his kid but it's not.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Yeah, that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, it happens a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And then there's people who have found that out, you know,
that it's not really their father, and they found out
who their real father is.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
So I think that's one of the reasons for the
popularity of the show.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, which by the way, is still on today today
along with par With that's right right on YouTube, Spotify, Apple,
any of your podcast platform.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Good job, he's a professional. I'm par and listen.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
No matter what, we were in here watching some of
these oh, we had to be like hold on, hold on,
we can't go up yet.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
We got to find out what the result is like
even to this day.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
You know, I know a lot of NFL players watch
the show and stuff like that, and all of them
tell me they're in the locker room during the morning.
My show's on the air. The coaches are up on
the field with their whistles trying to get them up,
and they won't come up till they find out who
the father is. Yeah. Absolutely, And then Shaq used to
(32:46):
tell me that he and his buddies bet on whether
they were the father or not.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
We all bet in our head, like no, that's definitely,
that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I was definitely wrong today a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh boy, all right, well, congratulations again and I cannot
wait for us to come and join you on on
your platform Living next season, Yeah, next season, Mary Povich
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