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October 14, 2025 35 mins

Peezy Talks Creativity, Chick-fil-A vs Lean, His Journey, Leading the YNS + More 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
But Angela, Ye, I'm with the girls hairr Jojo Alonzo's hair.
You're and Pezy just stepped into the line of fire.
Welcome back to Peezy.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey get.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yes, that's how we are feeling.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
But no, you gotta be feeling really good to have
this amazing project out right now.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
I feel like I don't know if I normally see
what this many guest appearances too, No.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I don't really be doing a lot of guest appearances
for real. This time. I'm like, I'm doing something different.
I just want to just do everything.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
You got some good ones though, because they make sense
and it sounds good. I think I love you and
Rick Ross together and Jeremiah. You got the Little Ladies
song with Jeremiah.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's her.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I like that one.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Herbald t a Jeff Okay, I see.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
From Chicago, both of them.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
She went to Atlanta and forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
But let's talk about the Jeremiah song Loving on Me,
because it's kind of a love song, but it's also
kind of a messed up come back song.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah, just staying on subject.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, he's just staying on subject.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, real life, real life lyrics though, mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
You know when you go through shit at home, you
got to like try to figure out way to make
it right.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah, it's just a specific situation.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Just speaking on behalf of the fellas all around, you
know what I'm saying experience, Yeah, just speaking on behalf
of the fellas that go through things with.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
The old lady.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
How often do you have to take her back?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Because they don't usually be heard?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Right, right, that's usually how I be everywhere because we're
really other ones choosing.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, she don't mess up, so it would be me.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I'll be yeah, you did all right, because you know
you be fucking up right. Why do guys do that?
Like we could do everything we're supposed to.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Do, it's just in them.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
Yeah, they get it together eventually they grow un development.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
They say it's men, but with like seventy five, like
I finally see it.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
But women do it.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
A woman can do the same thing the man doing
and we can say it's just women, it's just women stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
We just do that. We just know how to have
it better.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Okay, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
True, it's not true.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Women way more sneakier than me, you think so, because.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Y'all know how to get away with it, Like y'all
way more calculated and way more stratesic.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So it's like, y'all know how to get away with this.
It's just kind of like goofy with it, Like, yeah,
just be doing it.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
I don't get caught.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I've never gotten, you've never gotten what? So you have cheated?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
So you're a professional cheater.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
Man, I am a retired professional Cheaterkay.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
You're married. No, so you're a professional teater.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
A professional liar too, apparently, you know what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think where women women will like set it up.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
We'll do things like, okay, girl, let's take these pictures
two months from now, I'm going away with him, so
I'm gonna post these and then I need you to
post it on the same day.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, women do stuff like that. Men would be like I.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Was with Pyroll and whole time we didn't even didn't
even tell him right that she was with him, and
then next thing, you know, y'all run into him and
she'd be like, oh you a was together last night?

Speaker 7 (03:26):
What?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
No, I was right, you didn't set it up?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah you got to.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'll just be honest, though, I don't really have to
go through that.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Okay, that's the way to be honest.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Now, last time I saw you, you was actually getting
ready to go to Pero Giovanni's wedding with Can. I
said them congratulating, How was it? How was the wedding? Like,
tell me, did you cry a little? Did you did
you start envisioning things?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I ain't cry, But I was motivated.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
It was just beautiful to see two people that have
been together so long finally tied or not. And just
you know what I'm saying, I literally get to see
real black love. I've been knowing them a long time,
so I know they for real. Like I know Pero,
He's just an awesome guy.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I know his wife, she awesome woman.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
So I know they gonna they gonna have the most
beautiful whatever they got going on.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I thought they was already married, like they've.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Been engaged for a long time.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Facts, I didn't, because they've been together so long. I
just assume, because you know, it's like you always think
of the two of them together. So but it was
really nice to see, like an official ceremony.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
It was beautiful to see. Yeah, I was motivated. I
had a good time too.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
What do you mean by motivating, right.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I just was like that grow up.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah a girl up and settled down.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Not set it down. I don't really be doing a
lot of shit.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah he settled It's like just grow up and being like,
you know what I'm saying, it's just real love.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
All you need is really just one woman.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Remember there was a period of time when it used
to be like they didn't want it to seem like artists,
you know, men were in a relationship. They definitely didn't
want to see you married. But now I feel like
that's a whole different thing, Like people really respect it more.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Yeah, because the climbing are so messed up for the
dating pool so messed up to see marriage, real marriage
is rare and it's beautiful to see it. So I'm
always a fan of.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
People even believe in marriage anymore, because I just feel
like nowadays people don't really want to get married, Like
it's like or is that just my generation?

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I think they might not say it.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
I think they just don't know how to really come
to the discipline of it, like that a real thing,
especially when you do it right, like you can't just
you know what I'm saying, You really got to buckle
on and be disciplined. You really got to obey God
to be married to receive a real blessing. So it's
really a task, Like I don't really think a lot
of people know that they aren't ready for that, Like

(05:45):
that's why a lot of divorces go on. Like it's
really you gotta really that's something you really gotta fight through.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I've seen people that they got married and I knew
it wasn't gonna last, Like when as soon as they
said they was getting married, list you you know that
people that like, okay, good luck with that.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I just saw somebody that got married like a year
ago and they already divorced.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I saw, yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Well, people be getting married for the wrong reasons now.
But like what you said, it's it's a spiritual thing,
and you gotta have God in your marriage.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
If you don't, it's like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
You know? I feel like on this album too, it
felt like you were also having like a spiritual journey
as well.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
You and Big Sean.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
At the end of the album Give It All that
felt like a you know, it felt it felt different.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'd be doing records like that, though.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
I got a song like called Pray with Todd Dallas saying,
like my latest intro has just been church music on
my albums. I've been just I'm on the spiritual journey
right now, like God so present in my wife right now,
just out just you know, team God.

Speaker 7 (06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I think also going through a lot of things in life,
it changed your whole perspective when you actually do make
sure that you put God first and everything in fact,
you know.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
And I'm actually glad you said that though, because a
lot of times people don't even be trying to even
claim that they worship God.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Why not, I don't know that ain't cool or something.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Sometimes people think it's controversial talk about religion, Like they'll
tell you don't talk about politics and don't talk about religion,
and I know, you know, I see.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Politics and not religion. Though, Ain't nobody stop me from
talking about my Lord?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And I know that's right.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Nobody can't stop me from doing that.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
You seem to be real grateful.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
I love to see that the growth coming from all,
you know, because I'm familiar with the beginning.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
So it's just good to see how you just elevated.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
But yeah, I'm.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Grateful because I've been through a lot and I feel
like it took me so long to get here, Like
I just got to be humble, like and just stay grounded.
That's the most important thing to me. I've seen a
lot of people lose theirselfs and this.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, you know you have this song also called Daydreaming
on here. It's kind of a nightmare, yeah, because daydreaming
it feels like it should be something more cool, right,
But that was that felt like a nightmare to me.
Talk to us about daydreaming and what was going on,
like when you decided to do that song. If these

(08:12):
are real things that happened where you you know, it
feels like a PTSD like daydream.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
No, it wasn't real, I know, but it feels like.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
You know, so many things happened. These are the type
of s happen in.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
People life though. Yeah, yeah, so I was probably wrapping
somebody else's story. But I wrote it in the hole
when I was in prison.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I ain't had nothing to do.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
I was just like I need to be creative because
I was getting in trouble in jail, Like because you know, Jill,
I wouldn't really I don't know if I was in
jail doing what I was supposed to be doing I
was like into a lot of shit.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
So when I finally went to the.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Whole, I was like, damn, really in jail, I need
to sit down and read and write, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I wrote a.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Lot of music when I was in jail. That was
one of the songs I wrote. I've been holding on
that song.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I was like four years now, and so this felt
like the time.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah, I heard and I couldn't think of nothing to it.
So I had one in my notepad. I'm like, you know,
I got a lot of shit. I just just started,
you know, going over songs, and that one just fitted
perfect to the beak. It weren't really nothing to it
for real, I already had it wrote.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, It's kind of like how T Grizzly when he
did his all his stories where it's not people were
thinking it was real when it came out, and like
he put like videos with each of it, said it
was kind of like a movie.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, people want to see that suspense.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
They like that shit when you get into your creative
bag though, like when you said you was in a hole. Like,
I've talked to a lot of different artists and they
all have their different ways of how they get into
their creative bag. So you being in the hole, how
did you get into your creative bag?

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Like what was that process?

Speaker 7 (09:39):
Like?

Speaker 5 (09:41):
When I was in the hole during the pandemic, so
we couldn't go outside like you know, when you in
the hole, you usually get like an hour out of
day type shit. We wasn't getting no hour out of day.
We was locked up like twenty four hours a day.
So then sometimes you wouldn't even have no selly, you
know what I'm saying. So you got to really think
away as to keep your mind occupied or your dry.
So crazy, and I was in that business nine eighty

(10:02):
eight days, So that's crazy to just be in the dark,
like in the fucking tunnel, like you know what I'm saying,
basically in the cage for eighty eight days, like you
know what I'm saying, no windows and no ship like that. Yeah,
so you really got to think away as to occupy
your mind. So I read a lot of books and
I wrote a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, that's what you got to do keep your mind.
Like it's like exercising your brain.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah, but that's also like traumatizing though, it's like that
like mentally like but that messages you up mentally don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I felt like when I got in there, I'm like, man,
I could really do the rest of my time man
like sitting in the hole, like you really want ship
to me, Like it was something to me when I went.
But once I figured out how to be alone, I'm like,
I could really do this shit.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
I was gonna say, they lets you know, like how
strong you are mentally, because me personally, me being by
myself at all, Like if I don't got my kids
with their dad whatever, I'm at home by myself, I'd
be like, what the hell it'd be feeling weird me Like,
I don't it's.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Hard, so crazy though I had so many letters coming
every time the mail run. I was getting three folk
letters though, So in the whole I always had fans
and family and you know, people to write back to
and shit like that. People used to send me mail,
newspapers all this shit. So I'm really straight for real,
like I had a good support system.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
It feels like you have been even building on that.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
I see all these lists about like artists to watch,
and even though you've been out for a while now,
it feels like PZ is getting all of the just dudes.
Like in the past couple of years, do you feel
that too, Like the momentum has been more powerful than ever.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
I feel like the harder our work, the more I
go up, Like I feel like I don't really be
applying myself as much as I should. Like that's probably
like some Detroit shit, like we think we're too cool
to do certain shit, But this time, I'm like, I'm
doing everything I need to do, you know what I'm saying,
to go to the next level.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
So I kind of really blame that.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
On myself even asking for it, because, like you said,
you never been like feature heavy like that. But you
have g herbal On here, you got Big Sean, you
got four two, Doug French, Montana, Rick Russ.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean you got one bill. Do they say one
billion time?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Oh yeah, it's extremes all time.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I swear I never knew that this is for you
one billion.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
That's I don't be because I don't I'm not. I
don't pay attention to the numbers because I feel like
it's a distraction, So I don't strange.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean, you got a platinum single, you know also
certain you know that, Okay, guess what to make sure
I know that, and going on tour it is also
going to make those numbers go up even more. Yeah facts,
but you know, but back to what I was saying,
like you having all of these different people and Jeremiah,
did you make those costs two changes on the album?

(12:47):
Because like you said, sometimes people from the TROIT could
be too cool. They don't even want to like be
like yo, could you you know hop on the album?
Tell me, like how these collabs even happened?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, I made you did okay show show.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
I talked to everybody personally it self Jerremony, that was
something like the team put together.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
But it was dope though.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
But everybody else like Ross two change you, Herbo Law,
everybody I talked to personally so and it wasn't really
nothing to it, Like everybody sent their verses right back.
Nobody made me wait a long time, Like Larry June
when did this verse five in the morning, like the
day before the tape came out.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
He rushed to the studio and did it. So people
really be fucking with me.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's a little flex.

Speaker 6 (13:24):
That's a little suttle flex, you know what I'm saying,
Like cause some people they don't they don't just reach
out personally.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
They got their team to do it.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Like I'm calling producers and everything. I'm hands on with everything,
cause it's like if I'm hands on, I can get
a different result versus sending like their professionals to do it,
because you know, when you send professionals to do shit,
they're gonna look.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
At it as business. But if you if you like right, so,
I really like the handle ship myself for real, that's
what's up.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
I know, Like I hear you talking about your spiritual
spiritual journey a lot of gas changing their health regimen
like turn vegan and stuff. But what you're doing different
that you didn't used to do on the health side,
then that's.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
A good question. I don't do nothing for real.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
I don't eat no meat down there, like I don't
even done there, wash it with the same soap, use
the same yodorant, two paste, none.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Of this ship.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
I try to be as healthy as I can, like
with less chemicals as possible. You know, it's crazy to
hear so I try to like not put no type
of toxins in my body. I ain't perfect anyhing like that.
I ain't saying I'm perfect nothing, but I try hard
as I can. Though in the gym, I slack on
the gym. I slack on the gym, but I do more.

(14:36):
Watch the way I eat, when watch what I'm drinking.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
We should do we run three one three.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
We should do that.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
When you come back, I actually be there.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
The next two weekends in a row.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
If you do it, I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Let's make it happen.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I saw you went viral for talking about Lean and
Chick fil A and saying Chick fil A is worse
all it really like started a whole time conversation about
fast food and you know what's going on with that?
And then people were pulling up like real fast and statistics.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
Yeah, you know, you really only explain to people who
bring out in the box. So if you like kind
of like lost, I really can't even really relate to you,
or they can't relate to me. Like should I be
seeing people be like he justifying drinking Lean, Like, no,
I'm not justifying drinking Lean. I'm telling you that what
you're doing is way worse than what you think I
do because you do this shit every day, and I

(15:27):
only do you do it, your children do or your
family do it. Like, so you really drugging your whole
fucking family, and you really judging me. No, I know
exactly what I'm doing. I feel that you can go
look up the ingredients in this fast food ship and
it ain't no real.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
Food, and no I be eating I be eating fast
food though. But see I was gonna say, I do
the oppotunit. You know, you at least you eat healthy.
You don't go to the gym, but some people they
can't really balance.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
You can go to the gym and only thing you're
doing to just be a muscle that ain't helping you
with the toxics.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Not too much on me.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
You can build all the muscle and all this ship,
but you're gonna you're gonna eat regular.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
About the food is the main thing with the line.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
I don't know too much about it, but all the
guys I know that's.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Like forty two and up pipe b dead off the lane.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I do this is because the.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Niggas be taking X fucking purchoset all. I'm telling you,
they are all of them nigga pis. I don't take
pills and nothing like that. This motherfucker worked good.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
But I'm saying forty six years that's what's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
But I'm just trying to give you a little.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
I'm just telling you warn She's warning you.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's it, you know, just God got me okay, second
birthday right, look.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Down and like work, take me home.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I think that now. You also went viral at the
wedding for your.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Outfit and then everybody win got everybody cashing there looking
for it.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, did you see that?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I did.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
They said that everybody was calling the store trying to
get the scarf you had on.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Big on her facts though they all want to do
what I do. They just it's funny to them, but
they all copy it though.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Say though going viral for whatever reason, sometimes people just
be trying to be funny because I didn't see the
big deal.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
People behaters though. You know a lot of people only
say something because other people say it. It's entertaining, Like
a lot of people don't really be feeling like that.
It just be some ship to say because other people
saying it. That's how you know the Internet ain't in
real place.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
They all followers from people be putting comments to see
if they can get the most likes on a comment
last and.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
None out of that that you see them in person,
and you.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Know how many people rent like, can you unblock me?
Keep it like that? Yeah, I'm blocking.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
It'd be so funny. I had to actually want to.
I had to interview somebody and I didn't realize I
had them blocked.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I don't know what they.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Must have said. Yeah, yeah, but it was like a
newer artist. But you know, sometimes I don't even be knowing,
Like as soon as I see said black black black
by block, I just block it off because I also
don't want to feel like I want to respond, so
before I could even think to respond.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Because I want to respond. I'm the type of nigga
that you ain't just gonna say something to me. I'm
saying something back to you because you're not funnier than me.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I'm saying something.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
I'll be responding. And then when I respond, now my
page is restricted because yeah, I know that they're reporting me.
So they're like, you have been reported for bully and
I'm like, what, Like, what do you be saying?

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Man?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Because I be I'll talk about it. I'll talk about you.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
It'd be a mixture of the Chicago and Memphis together
because I'm gonna get on you so bad, Like I
would literally just jone you.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
I gotta go through your page. You want to play,
We're gonna go there.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Now, little head, big mustache.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
Having that doing that's why blocks for.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Real, that too well, listen on the positive side of things.
So I'm like, if I can make it, that's my
joint right there, because that's so truly that's a motivational.
Like we were having this whole conversation, me and Shella.
We we jo to Philly together. I had to do
something with Easter Ray and the conversation we had with
her was very motivational as far as like her achieving
what she's achieved, what she went through to get there.

(19:30):
And I'm sure you can relate to all of that,
but it's kind of like sometimes you got to just
go for it and do it. Because other people have
been able to make it happen, why can't you.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's a fact.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Yeah, I've been through a lot, so I know if
I can make if somebody else can, Like I don't
really I'm the type of friend I don't accept like
bullshit excuses her failure, like because I know I know
what I went through the gear and I know that
I ain't had I ain't grow my parents and all
this shit, like you know what I'm saying, I kind
of raised myself, so people who had more like I

(20:02):
don't really know how to explain it, like people who
have more growing up than me. I don't really be
trying to hear that shit they be talking about, like
as far as life like when life heard and all that,
because I know how my life, how hard my life was,
and I know how hard I had to work to
get here. And I'm telling you you can do it.
I know you can. So when you're telling me no,
you can do it, you did it. I ain't really
trying to hear that shit like I'm that type of guy,

(20:22):
like I don't want to hear no excuses.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I know you can make it.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
When was when was that like crossing over moment when
it's like I did make it.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
I don't really be feeling like I made it, but
I be feeling like I'm doing good.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
But I don't be feeling like but I don't know
that though.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Period, I feel like I'm gonna say like this, like
you can feel like you made it when you know
you ain't really got to do what you used to do.
Like you can feel like you made it then, so
I could say I made it, But I don't be
feeling like it though, because I still be at home
a lot and reality set in when you were around
a lot of people who you still gotta I don't
really know how to explain a lot of people ain't

(21:00):
gonna make it back home.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
I'm like people who just have that ambition in them.
I don't think they're ever going to just sit back
and realize when they when they have made it, which
is hm, it's a given a curse at the same time,
because it's like you're gonna keep trying to do more
and elevate yourself, but you also need to sit back

(21:22):
and look at what you've done and give you celebrated.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Were trying to do that, trying to celebrate myself when.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
People celebrate you and you still don't feel it, No,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, it definitely got to be.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
It because I feel like I got some work to do.
I feel like I got so much shit to do.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
More.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
You gotta do what more? You? What is it that
you want to accomplish?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, let's see what's the what's.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
A lot to do in this game? Like you know,
like what I'm looking, I'm literally.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Like what else?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
We gotta go on world tours.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
We gotta build ship. We got a lot to do,
Like we gotta help people. We gotta build communities for kids,
we gotta help chill. We got a lot of ship
to do.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, in the investment game has been strong for you
to talk to me about that, because I think it's
also important for artists to realize outside of what I
do here, I got to make sure that I'm, like
you said, building for other people, building community, also building
your own portfolio.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
I had to invest my money because I was talking
to my accountant and I was telling her, probably like
three years ago that when I finally done rapping and
all that shit, I want to still be living how
I live. So she was telling me, like the steps
to taking all this shit. So I took two years,
fell back, and then you know, just invested in a
bunch of smart different things like stock, gold, real estate.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
On my other time spare time by watching and shit,
I'm ana watch collective sneaker collector. But my main investment
right now is like stocks, and minds and shit in
real estate.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I actually we were having this conversation all the way
into work today. I was telling them about how I
feel like everybody needs a financial planner at least, right
And I actually just met with my person last week
and we were just talking about like tax shelters and
things that you can do so that you can have
money that's growing, but also that you can have access

(23:06):
to liquid but not having money sitting in a bank,
you know, and just all these different strategies that because
they are strategies. And even when I was younger and
I didn't have much money, how I was able to
invest a little bit every month that I didn't notice
because it was pre tax dollars, so it didn't make
my paycheck go down. And you know, that was like
probably like fifteen years ago. And now that money is

(23:27):
six figures and I literally was barely putting anything in
it and I never even changed it. I don't even
look at it or notice the money being trust.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Me, I don't even look at this shit. I'll be forgetting.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
I put like I think I put like one fifty
in one account, and it's like one ninety nine, Like
since last year. I don't even look at this shit
my condra sentiment.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'm like, what is that?

Speaker 5 (23:45):
She like, you don't remember you invested your money in
the start, and I'm like, oh shit, that's what's up.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
So a lot of people that's foreign, like they don't
understand stocks and finance and none of that. So, like,
what would be the first step for somebody if they
wanted to get into you know, investing or stocks.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's different for everybody.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
I would say, read a book or talk to somebody
that you can trust. Like with me, I had the
MA commn put me up on game. It wasn't really
nothing like I learned being around my friends and no
ship like that. It was my common really telling me,
like your ass gonna go broke. That's what it really
what it was like. You ain't gonna ask it in
the fears you keep playing, and that's what it was like.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
That was all my motivation I needed. I am not broke.
Oh shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
So yeah, but I al would say somebody need to
read a book and talk to some talk to some people,
like ask questions, ask a million questions. I really can't
say because it's different for everybody, but that's what I did.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I also think there's a lot of apps that you
can use, like to invest, so you don't have to
put a lot of money, but it helps you understand
it better because you don't have to buy a whole stock.
You can buy pieces of stocks, and so you can
use like a robbin, Hood, Public's Acorns, all of those
different apps and they kind of invest the money for you.
Those are safe investments, but they also can let you, like,
if you want to do something that's a little riskier

(25:08):
that might have a bigger reward, you can put a
little bit aside for that. But I also feel like
just doing that yourself will help you understand it more.
And then if you have a bank that you use,
like talk to somebody at the bank. They have people
that that service will come with you having an account there.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
You should get a financial advisor.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yeah sure, yeah, and there's like a lot of free
resources too, but make sure it's like federally approved, you
know what I'm saying, So they're like a credit is
so you're not going off with some commercial you saw
on TV.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I lost money trying to pay people to do shit
for me.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, you don't need to do it.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
It was like twenty five bands trying to fix more credit.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
And you could go right to the National Foundation and
Credit Counseling the NFCC and they will give you like
the best easiest way to get things done. You don't
need to pay a bunch of money for somebody to
do that. But it is something that people take advantage
because they know you need your credit because you got
moves you want to make.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
They did it to me when I first got out
a twenty five thousand fucking with a scamera like that.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, but that's a lesson learned.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
An expensive one, but you know, a lesson learn So
when you talk about things that you feel like you
still need to do besides in the music game, what
are some things that for PZ would make you feel like, Okay,
I feel like this is this is the company I need.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
To be and this is what I need to be doing.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I just got a key record and just putting our hits.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
That's all. That's it. Basically everything else cool. I'm just
going to key recording good music.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
How do you know when something's a hit, you've got
to send it out.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
To the females who you send it to my girl, Well,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
My girl ain't gona lot to her favorite song to
say loving me, of course it is.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
She wrote a treatment to the video and everything. But
like females period.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
That's something. Look, we're the smartest.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
I send the music to females, like female is gonna
tell you, especially if it's a girl's on, you're gonna
send it to the girls.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Let them hear.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
They're gonna tell you what's up for real. But I
put a snippet of all people be like that's the one,
that's the one. But sometimes I think it's on the
one and it.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Don't be that. It'll be another song, So that should
be tricky.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Sometimes yeah, it's hard to tell. And it's also sometimes
things go viral like on TikTok, and that helps so much.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Different way of doing things, like if you can, because
I feel like sometimes people chase that, but it's gotta
happen more organically, you know, just those songs that people
do challenges too and stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
That's why I just record music. I don't really get
off into that type of shit. I just do it
the old school. I don't do no challenges and I
did one challenge before but that was it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Though I don't really do all that challenge.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
It was like the two million challenges. I had created a.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Dance to it and that went crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It wasn't crazy, and I had fun too.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
See I like that PC having fun.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
What is fun to you besides work?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I like to have everything fun.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
And what do you do for fun?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
If if somebody was coming to Detroit and was like, Yo,
let's go, let's have some fun.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
What you're gonna do?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
We can go every We're gonna go to every club.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
We're gonna go. We're gonna club hot like crazy? Is
he go eat a some restaurants, like go shopping a
little bit. I'll shop a lot, like I'm a fucking
shop ahl to the man. Yeah, like my ma, I
shopped too much. Like it's crazy. But that's fun to
me though, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Just shopping, eating, driving new cars. You know what I'm saying,
traveling ship like that. But if you come into Detroit,
I gotta take you around. I gotta take you outside.
I got to show you around the time.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
So if you put together in an itinerary, give us
five places and Detroit that we would go to.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Okay Boom. It depends on what night it is.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
If it's like a Friday or something like that, I
might go to a Royal Lobe to Double O, to
my man print spot that's always slapping. If it's like
a Thursday, you're gonna go to Love in Tequila. That's
the popping spot on Thursdays and Thursday nights, Saturday Sundays
is usually Love in Tequila, Annex, Sloppy Crab, and then uh,

(28:56):
what's the what's the what's the last spot?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
They always go to Annex, then Sloppy Crab. In your
night that Sloppy Crab.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Because it's never in any of these places.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
But you're gonna go to Annex.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Then you're gonna go to Sloppy Crab rooftop until they
close the rooftop. Then you're gonna go downstairs to the
to the club and that's gonna close at like five
in the morning. But then you might go over to Checkmate,
though they might close Sloppy Crawd. You gotta go next
door to Checkmate.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
They were trying to get me to go to check
Me last time I was there.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
That's the whole night life.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
And they have the alleys, right, I see that it
has been going viral lately.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
They got alley birds like and they be lit in
the alley, the actual alley, but they're like fly alleys.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
They fly alleys like like with garbage cancer.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
And it's not like, you know, like New York, like
it's New York for sure.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
It ain't nothing like New York.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
So Detroit be lit.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
Definitely coming that never been.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I do love you will come there a lot, like
you're a real Detrader.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I'm actually so look two things coming up on the
on the eighteenth, they're giving me. I'm doing a keynote
for the Opportunity Resource Fund in Detroit, which is amazing.
We just got They helped us get funding mortgage for
our building in Midtown in Detroit, and they do a
lot of like grants and funding in the city. So
I'm going there for that, and then the weekend after

(30:22):
I'm hosting the Detroit Symposium Business Symposium, so that's like
for entrepreneurs to link up, come together. So I'll be
there like those two times in a row. But I
love that, Like I think Detroit is such a city
for entrepreneurs, for people that are really like making it happen,
and there's a lot going on and people got to
be involved. I always say that, like there's a lot
of people coming into the city. I mean, I'm coming

(30:42):
in and doing things, but part of why I'm doing
it is also to be like, come on, let's all, like,
you know, do some things together.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
So they need to get they need to do that.
Shit it's too late up there.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, yeah, cause it's getting ridiculous because.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
People like you coming in. You know what I'm saying,
You ain't room. You're not wrong for that though we're
supposed to be bound. Yeah, it can and get you
sure how to do it, like you're leaving by good example.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So it really ain't nothing. Detroit just can't come together
and dost step it up.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
It would be so lit because there's also a lot
of programs and a lot of like special things that
you can have access to as a person that's from there,
and so I just want people to take advantage of it.
I'm not able to partake in that, but you know,
whatever I can do because the next project I do,
I am going to team up with somebody from Detroit
to do it, just because I felt and even with
this building. I did try to get a couple of

(31:33):
people to want to do it, but you know, nobody
ended up wanting to participate. But now that I did that,
I feel like more comfortable, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Always I touched on too late, man. We gotta start
getting on early, man.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
But New York it was like that too. You know,
there's a lot of opportunities here that I didn't see
because I'm from here.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's how I missed out on Bigcoin bullshit.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
We did.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
There's gonna be something else next.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I ain't miss out on ex Repeter.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Now when is this?

Speaker 7 (32:01):
So?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
For this tour? Who's going on tour with you? Like,
what's the plan do we?

Speaker 5 (32:05):
I'm about to drop another tape before going to I
ain't ready to go on. I'm gonna drop some more
music then go because I'm gonna do an hour set
when I go. Yeah, but I ain't taking nobody with
me though. I'm just gonna bring lit people out of
every state.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Okay, I like that, and they're gonna love that, Yeah,
I know, because I know it feels good. I think
when people come to Detroit, they always bring you out.
Fact Like, they come in and they're like, all right,
we gotta bring it.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
Everybody bring me out, like shout out to all the artists.
They really mess with me. I appreciate everybody that looked
out for me when they came down there, especially Pluto.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay, especially when it comes to this new out, this
new tape that you put in out. How much is done?
It's done, already done.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I recorded like three hundred songs in the last couple
of months.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Good Lord, you don't sleep.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I ain't been asleep since I've been to New York.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah, I know, I see you making making deals at julyne.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
I out of the y ns look up to you.
You know, I'll be seeing, so I'll be seeing like
how they rock with you. If it's one thing you
could say to them, because you know, it's been going crazy,
especially like cities like when we come from Midwest Chicago, Detroit.
If you could tell them one thing to do right,
to change like how they live, what would you say.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
I really can't say nothing that's gonna change how they live,
because well, it ain't really nothing you can say to
change it, like you only only thing I could do
is just show them how I'm living. And if they
and if they if they smart enough to see that
there's nothing special that I'm doing, then they'll pick up
on game. But far as me, like, bro, you bullshitting like,
they ain't really trying to hear that shit because their

(33:41):
life is so real.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
They're really going through shit for real.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Like I just try to leave by example, like just
try to show them that this ship is really possible,
or you could really go to jail for the rest
of your life.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You can, you know. That's that's that right there.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
I'll just be trying to show with my like because
I was one of them before, I wouldn't do all
the dumb shit they did. But yn before, you know
what I'm saying, I had a little more sense because
I had a little bit more motivation coming up far
as who I looked up to, because we listening to
jay Z and shit like that, we have more motivation
than what they got right now. So I was a

(34:16):
little bit more motivated to have something. But I just
try to lead with my actions and I'm always present.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
So I mean, literally you could have died and literally
went to jail, and you know, I think super blessed
And that's why I think sometimes somebody like you, people
would listen to more.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
They love me though, the Yans love me, They look
up to me, they fuck with me. They think I'm
cool like I am cool, though I am cool. I
ain't no goofy though, like I don't really do dumb shit.
I ain't already throwing my life away trying to get
in trouble. I ain't you know what I'm saying. I'm like,
I'm a cool gotta look.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Up to the right shit, but you're working hard.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Facts, I ain't doing nothing goofy like, I ain't doing
no dumb shit none at all. I ain't gonna throw
my life away, right.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
Well, that's something that's something to say because a lot
of them, like they don't They'll hear the music, but
they don't understand the story. It ain't just like you
just had this, flip this and flip. No, it's like
it's real. So that's just good to knowing, good to
say and keep that out there.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Oh love your Chicago accent, right, she don't play from
Chirak Chicago.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
But yeah, facts, though if I could do it, you
could do it. If we can do it, you can
do it.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Like we all had to go through shi to get
to the points fact everybody in this room did like
so we all could be motivation for the youth. It
ain't really nothing special like it just.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Worked and we're still going all right. Well, he's he
as always. It's a pleasure to talk to you. Thank
you so much for coming through. Congratulations on everything.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Appreciate having men you know.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Still ghetto as well.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Is still him all right?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's way up.

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