October 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Sister Nancy Tells Her Story: No Royalties, 9–5 Job, The Return Of A Legend With 'Armageddon' +More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
With angela Ye and what an honor today to have
sister and Nancy here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
First greetings, greetings, my sister, Thanks for having me here.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh, thank you for coming. It's a blessing to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know, honestly before called bomb Bomb the best dancehall
song ever, number one on the list. But there's a
documentary out called bomb Bomb The Story Assistant Nancy, and
we really got to get a lot more insight into
everything that you've done and how you got to where
you are today. Okay, So how does that feel for
you to have your story out there?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know? It just it just works, hard work and
it pays off. That's all I can say. Just hard
work and it pays off for everything that you know
happens to assist a Nancy. You know, because I'm one
of the patient one. I have so much patient. I've
been waiting so long after doing so much work in
the industry, and waiting and still waiting too, because I
(01:02):
haven't yet done all of what I really set out
to accomplish, not everything I can say, but I'm still fighting.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, Well, I do want to say, after over forty
years since you started it feels like even when people
are meeting you for the first time, your aura and
how much perhaps they.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Give you, you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Know, that's amazing, and I think just a testament to
everything that you've accomplished that, you know, I think, like
you said, you're being patient. You're still waiting and getting
your just due. But I feel, like you said, there's
still more to come.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Of course they are. It never stopped. You know, you
can't just fight and then you stop. It's like you
never start fighting because there's tough. You know, it's tough
for you to accomplish, and you have just pulled through. Yeah,
of course I got I accomplished some already, but I
have more. You mean, is just it's big. Yeah, And
you know it's been to a lot, and you know
(02:00):
it's been to a lot, the music, the sampling, everything
has been to a lot. So I will never stop fight,
fighting for what's just mine.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Don't you feel like that's also the theme of the
song to Bam Bam, Yeah, I said a theme. Yeah,
Like the theme of the song is still just kind
of like, look I'm here, I'm fighting.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's what it is. It's an attack, that's what it is.
When I did it's nineteen eighty two, and that's what
it is today. It's an attack. Do you know that
I am coming? Just be weird. Give give them somewhere
because I'm old. There, I'm coming. That's it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
What made you decide to do a documentary? I want
to know how that even happened.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The documentary was not my idea, as I told me
to be people before I was working with an agent
and you know Montreal, just like I work with Gravy
from large job and he, you know he because he
loves me so much. And see when I perform what
you see the old people react to me. And he says, sistance,
(02:59):
you need to read some books. And tell him I
don't have time to write no damn book. So he said,
you know, you need to do a documentary. And the
thing I tell him at the time, I didn't. I
didn't have that. I don't know money to put out
not that in documentary, documentary, I'll get robbed so much
time and I'm still getting robbed. I ain't got no
money to put out documentary. He says, I know somebody
(03:19):
I can talk to for you. And he talked to
Alison Duke, who's a really nice lady from Hoya and
er Er he proposal to me, and you know everything
it was it was in my favor, and I said,
I like her, so I said, you know, I let
her do it because I trusted her and it was
(03:40):
worth my while, so I go ahead and do it.
And how that's it?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
How hard is trust now? Because like you said, you've
been through a lot when it comes to this business, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know, trust comes with you, know you always They
told you that friendship is what you learn, not that
not what you gain. So if you, if you, if
you it's her and you hearn a friend because it's
what you do. Make a person your friend. You just
don't go out and look a friend. You have to
earn that the whole way you deal with me. It's
(04:09):
like family and relative, they're two different people. Your family
is how people treat you. Your relative's my blood, you understand,
So you know you have to learn. I guess all
people treat you. That's how you trust people. And there's
people I trust, of course, like my daughter of course,
you have to Shandy of course, and my brothers and sisters. Still,
(04:29):
you know, I really and I have friends that I
really trust. They know theirselves, people that work could. I
trust them. They can do anything with me with money, anything.
I tell them to go ahead and do it because
I really trust them and work with them a lot.
But not everybody you can do that with, you know,
so I just take my time to learn people. I
guess right. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love the footage, the actual footage of being able
to see you perform when you were first getting started
in the business.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
How is that for you? Just kind of looking back
at some of these things I know you live through.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I don't think you see the first time perform You
have never.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Seen that, not the first time, but seeing that was sting.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That was by nineteen ninety. It was that before I
become a restafar and with my dread lucks. That's a
long time, that's what you're talking. Yeah, okay, yeah, but
it's it's naturally. And you see, if you were born
to do something, you're going to do it, whether you
practice it or anything. It just comes perfect to you.
(05:26):
And I think I was born like this. I was
born to do music. My father music, my mother, my
sisters and brothers. You know, my brother Brigadier Jerry, who
inspired and is my mentor and everything so I was
born like this, so it just comes easy. You don't
think you were born to be on the radio. No, yes,
(05:46):
you were, she wouldn't be here.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You're right, You're right now give up. You would give
up already. This has been a career.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You're right, because there's things that we've had a job
than having a career, of.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Course, because you were chosen to do it. You know,
I work in the bank for sixteen years, and I
know that wasn't what I was supposed to do because
I've been doing music since I was fifteen years old,
but it was something that I had to do at
the time, coming to a different country. But then I
realized that they don't make no sense because I don't
love doing it. This is what I really love. Yeah,
(06:18):
and it's music. So this is my calling, and whatever
you do, it's yours.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
With the Assistant Nancy story, I remember reading and reporting
on because we never knew like the backstory of what
happened with the song. But I remember seeing the report
and actually putting it on the radio, talking about the
fact that you hadn't been getting money from the song.
It didn't even realize how much it had been sampled
not at all.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, until later, until I came here.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I came, I came to I migrate. I've been coming
here from nineteen eighty, but I migrated, you know, through
my mom. I came to live here nineteen ninety six.
And it's just in those times, like I think, nineteen
ninety eight, I really SEEO a powerful song is and
what's what he's doing. And I didn't I didn't even know.
Some people do. Some people still don't know who I
(07:05):
am because Peace he passed me all the time playing
the song. And look, they don't even notice me. I
won't tell them because I'm not like that. I'm so
I'm my own a person. I don't care. I don't care,
but you know, at least you know I am getting there,
and at least I'm getting compensation, you know, some ways
of what you know the world that I did. But
(07:28):
you know, it's it's it never stopped.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, daughter actually was watching Belly and so and so
that song and Belly is like, I think that song
is the one song that's the representative of the whole movie.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Whole movie. Yeah, I know, I watch it too. I
watch it all the time. I did it. I tape
it on on VCR because I watched it. I see
it there that day, and then I come back and
see it when it was playing another day. So I
tape it from the beginning to the to the hand
that's on the v said that we used to use
video in your home, because I still have it on VCR.
That's that's Meley.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, it's so interesting to me that, like you said,
you didn't realize how big Bam Bam was that you
came here, but you had songs that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Were big in Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's one too, yeah, one to Transport Connection. Those two
were big. Yes, the two were big, but they never played.
They never I never hear Bambam.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
That's so interesting because I know, like stuff always gets
big in Jamaica and.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Then here, oh no, not Bam Bam one towards the
song that's big down there and Transport Connection. But after
I get to you, I see the you know, the
movements of Bambam. I didn't even know that it was
because I never played there, right, never played.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And it's the most sample song yeah and read time
dancehall period, Yes it is. How much do you know
how many times it's been sampled?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know? I sub content because it's but it's it's
a lot of a lot of time, and it's and
it's it's it's only gets better because people use it
every day. And that's true. You get I get to
like people call the text, they email and asked me
to use it all the time. Some people I do
say yes and because and some people I said no
(09:06):
because I can't do it on my own. It's not
it does not belong only to me, because you know,
you have mister Riley and mister Riley Estate, and you
know they have their publishing and everything. So I can't
tell a person to use it. I have to consult
the other party to give them authorization. But most people
they use, they get it to use as long as
it do it for a while.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But what is great is that people have been actually
working with you, like Janelle Monnet.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, jay Z, Yes, I think that was a fascinating story.
So you were jay Z traveled to Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's the best sample I ever had. And I was
telling them before that's the best one because he really
took me with him and I think that I think
that was the right thing to do. He didn't go
behind my back, you know, he called up Gravy and
they talk and we went and that's that's that's the
best thing, the best that's the best way to do it.
(09:56):
At least I'm a part of it. And he was
the right one who did it. So that's that's my
best sump right there.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Do you think that because people don't didn't know Like
a lot of times when artists are clearing samples, it's
lawyer is doing it, right, So the lawyer is calling
up somebody trying to figure out out who do we
need to contact. But maybe people weren't realizing, like we
can actually get in contact with systems.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of course they could, and a lot of them know
where to find me because I've been here. I've been here,
you know, years, I've been here, you know. But some
people just don't want to They don't want to be bothered.
They don't want to pay you to do that stuff
because they think they just can do it and get away, right,
you know, until you put stuffage to it. No, everybody
called me if they want to use it, but before
(10:36):
they never, they never. And then some things that was
done before, we still catch up on that, Like things
were done before, like the sampling, some of the something
that did before.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You can go back, and we can't.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Go back, and you know, and you know we call
it just get that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's interesting because when I first reported the story, I know,
they said they were able to go back ten years.
It wasn't the full thirty two at all time.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That's okay, okay, it was okay with me because you know,
after realizing that I wasn't getting anything for thirty two years,
you know, I was just and trust me, well it's not.
It wasn't easy living working a nine to five job.
And people may think that because I was an accountant,
work in the bank and make all this money, and no,
I made no damn money there. There was no money there.
(11:22):
But it was something that I could all on to. Meanwhile,
my daughter was going to school, college, university, you know what,
because I have to do the best for Shandy because
she's my life. And then but after everything started coming
and they said ten ten years, of course I wasn't
getting anything, right, I'll take ye, just give me the
(11:44):
ten years and then fifty percent. I couldn't ask for
anything better.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That's great, and that's great, and it's great and great, great, Yeah,
it's trust me, it's life changing. Of course, it is
nice and you deserve it. Yes, it's not like yeah
and gave you any no, no, no, I work for that.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah. That's me. That's all my voice there, nobody else's own.
That's me. That's me, and I know that's me, all me.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And that voice is iconic.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I want to talk to you about the early days too,
because I know and when I think about Bambam and
the time period that you actually put out one to
your first project, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Not the first, that was once it was. No, My
first record was back in nineteen seventy nine. Yes, okay, yeah,
that's now.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Tell me about that though, because I can't even imagine
what it must have been like to be a woman.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
My first song was nineteen seventy nine. The name of
it was Paperline, for the same producer most of my
songs are on the Technique's label, okay, and for mister
Winston Riley, most of my songs, you know. So that
was seventy nine, and then I had one. The second
one was money Caned by Love that's in nineteen eighteen.
(12:54):
Then I have one in Proda way the same here
before one two and Transport Connection I did all those
songs first. Okay, you know so one towards nineteen eighty two,
So that first one I did from eighty two to
Transport Connection. Then I realized mister Raley said we need
to do an album, and then I finished album that year.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I want people to go back and listen to those
songs too, because.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I's still there, all of them.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I want people to cantallue to make sure they.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Because I've been doing this. I've been recording since nineteen
seventy nine from General Echo before he passed away. He
took me to mister Riley. So I did those songs
back in those days. But people think one two is
my first song. No, Papauline was my first song in
nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So being a woman in that business, what was that
like at that time?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like the well, it wasn't. It was hard because as
I said, I had my brother, really Jerry was who
is highly respected, is a very highly respected digion. People
give me a leniency and some of them, you know,
like Johnmay and listen them sorry for me because of
my big brother. Back in them times, I used to
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I used to listen to this lady and she was
on the radio all the time. Her name is Momaliza
got the rest of her soul. And I used to
listen to her when I come from school. But I've
never seen her and not have seen her in the dance.
She was just like a record She was a record
artist on the radio, you know, transistor radio, and I
used to listen. You know, I want to do something
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like that, and I want to do like my brother.
I always want to be like my brother, and up
to now, I still want to do that, you know.
So I just patternize him and and fell in love
with the gym and that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And so even early on, like as far as doing
a deal, you had a record deal.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, I did not. You didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So you just were doing music. We don't know. We
don't have paperwork, no, no, okay, come on, Angela.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We didn't get no record deal when where No, we
just do music because we want to hear a voice
on the radio. We just love it, so we just
do it. We don't get nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So the money really just came from performing, is that?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yes? Okay, that's how we used to make money. Fifty
hundred dollars and then things because that's what they used
to pay us. It's a it's a little bit too,
but it was a lot of money at the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Now I was gonna say back and oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, we could do all kind of stuff. I could
go shopping and all that, but you don't know record
dealing in my time, we didn't get that.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Did you have a bigger vision of what you saw
for yourself when you were young? Because you love to perform,
and like you said, it wasn't like people were getting
record deals. They were just doing it because they loved it.
They wanted to be on the radio. But what's your
sister and Nancy say for herself as.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Every young one, I think everybody, every artist, yeah, wish
for the best for them. And I'm going to tell
you truth. Back in the days, I wasn't even thinking
about that. As I said, I wanted to be like
my brother. I wasn't traveling, you know. He was like
going to Trinidad and maybe those small islandes, no big no,
(15:47):
we call it Jamaicans a big faring. You know, America
is a big firing. That's all Jamaica style. You know,
I got big firing. No, those would go small faring
like Trinidad, and you miss mainly Trinidad. You would go
so back in the days, I just wanted to do
what he does. I wasn't even thinking of anything great.
As I said, I just want to hear my voice
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on the radio. I just want to, you know, because
I was going to school too, so I was just
I just want to hear me. I just want to
hear you know, a record, and then give me a record,
says is your voice and you go my plate on
a changer record the turntable. You don't want the turntable,
is right, yeah. And so we used to go and
we played, you played the whole day. That's all I
(16:29):
wanted nothing else. I wasn't thinking no, big, nothing because
it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And Bam Bam is the last song that she recorded.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
From Winton Riley.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No from the album wasn't it was done and harm
was Bam Bam is the last song I did put
on the album because I didn't have all ten songs,
only had nine.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
So Bam Bam is the last track and I got
it through yellow Man. Wow. Yes, because yellow Man did
one of that day. When I went to the studio
with him, he did a bam bam with fed, So
I said, why not go to a bam bam? So
I did one. I didn't even know it to do.
You take me places, you know, I wasn't even thinking
of that, right, and it takes me everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So then you moved to New Jersey. Was the first
place you moved when you came to the United States?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Or New Jersey where I live, Okay, even though I
still I am still there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Right, Yes, So you said you came there because your
mom came.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
My mother came been near not from nineteen seventy eight,
so she came here to look away from our children,
all of us, and she did and sent for us.
The only one was there before was my big brother,
Brigadier Jerry. He came here on his own, but my
mother sent for all of us. And we're Holly and
all of us.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Is in New Jersey, Patterson. I'm in Patison, Patterson, Okay.
My sister's in Paddison and I have one niece, Orange.
And so then you started working at the bank, Yes,
and you're an accountry school.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I came here and my mother sent me back to
school because I was I was about you know, I'm
always like a little getaway boy. They call me Tom,
you know. And I was always never do what my
parents say to do. I'm always a bad, bad child.
So when I get here, my mother told me that
(18:15):
she wanted me to go back to school. But I
was always going to school in Jamaica because I love school,
you know, but go to school. But you know, we
about the same were, you know. And when I came here,
she said, I want you to go back to school,
so you can that's the music. You have to get
something to do. And I said okay, and I went
back to school. I get my gd's first, and after
I get my GD, I went to a corporate college.
(18:39):
And after the corporate college, I went to that business
school to do paralegal and an accountant. I choose accountant
because I wanted to handle my own funds.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So I choose accountent, which I could do both. But
the law I didn't like. Oh they talked to you.
I don't like our people. I don't like people boss me.
I'm very fasty, I'm very ignorant. And the mod who
knows me know that I stand up for myself. I
don't make you talk to me. You want to talk
to me, not gonna work. I'm to old for that.
I don't care what you have. You can't do it.
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And jay Z can't tell you, you know because I
told him I got it a man and I'm a woman. No,
we equal. That's why I'm with my life. That's me.
I stand up for what I know, not believe. I believe.
It's a doubt. Knowing is now knowing. Yeah, So I
go to school and that's it. I get a job
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and have to work, you know, tell my daughter to school.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I wanted to ask you, though your father was a pastor,
is that my father was a pastor? How does he
feel about you doing music? Because I know sometimes that
can be a little.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
When I was when I when I was born. My
father has been a sick person since the day I
get into this world and have since I can. I
can recall him at like from I was four years old.
That's all I remember my father. I have said, knowing
that that's what's dada. From that time, that's what we
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call him dada. So and he was always a sick person,
my father. I never hear him speak because he lost
his he he lost his voice, and so I didn't
hear him preach, but my whole brothers and sisters did
because I'm the second to last one out of fifteen,
and so they always tell me everything that my dad do.
And people tell me your father could sing and you
(20:27):
have a wonderful voice. But it was not strange to
me because I never heard it, because I never heard
him speak. But that's what it was. And my house
was a was also a church. The house that I
grew up in was always a church. My brothers and sisters,
all of them can sing, who can sing, dance, who
can dance, play instruments. And I've been in been in
my family for as long as I can know, right,
(20:49):
so when I come do what I do, it's not
strange because I come and see my brother doing that. Right.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, I just know sometimes when religion and music and
some I've heard people when I get.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Really when I really bricoled in the music my father,
it was worse and sick. So it didn't bother my father.
My mother. Now you know, my mother always wanted the
best for a children, which and a parent want the
best for the kids, right, every parent. And then my
brothers and sisters see that. That's how I had as
I told him aboud, I they can't tell me what
to do. I do whatever I want all would I do.
(21:22):
When they come home, they will beat me, But I'm
going tomorrow again. I don't care. You can beat me tomorrow.
I'm still gonna go tomorrow. That's how I was raised
like that, right, And my mother was away and now
my father was there, but my father was sick. So
my big big brothers, my holy brother and sisters. Do
you know what them came? Ma neagto me. If I
fight them, I gotta fight. Yeah, I gotta go. So
(21:46):
that's all it is. But you know it was we
had discipline at home and everything, but one child was
always and that was that child was me. It was me.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And then coming to work at a bank and New
Jersey at that time, and I see it amentary.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I know people are gonna west this and.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
See it for themselves, but you definitely were taken off
and on weekends talking.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Still, and so I like every day they kind of
knew who you were. Yes, they know because I used
to sell my CDs there. Yeah, I used to make
my I used to make my own one two cities
and I used to take them there and sell them
because I got a few Jamaicans worked there, and then
a few Spanish.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That they probably like, you know we work with, Yes
they do.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And then some people from columbiad work. They're not been
to Columbia, Mexican and people from Peru. And I've been
to those countries to work, so they know me, this
said Ciszancid. While we work with sister nants everything, but
my boss she she never knows until one day she
come and she said, come in Nancy. And I went
and I said, what do you want, mister? What do
you want Ladia? She said, away you went last week?
(22:47):
I said nothing. They loved that that mic we have
dropped on my foot, so I had the foot band
up and everything. There's not wrong on the foot, she said,
there's nothing wrong with your foot. I saw you. I
saw you and that competer bad bad bamming is I
saw you in Telliviv? She said, yes, I saw you.
Every week could tell me a different lie. Every week.
(23:07):
I tell my different like I start looking at you
on that computer and I see you everywhere you go,
this bad, bad, bad man. Let me say, okay, okay, lady,
it's me. What do you want me to do right,
you know. And then but I stopped lying to her,
and I say, you know what, I better just let
go and leave, you know, before them fire me.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Right, she probably want to know because it Yes, she
won't mention she don't like me.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
No, she don't like me. Should have fired me, should
fire me sooner or later? Because I am one of
the persons who stand up and talk to her. She's
four years older than me, you know, so she think
she talked to these young ladies on a certain way,
and I tell her, don't bring that to me. I said,
don't talk to me like that. I could not be
your daughter, your child. I'm a grown woman. So I
(23:51):
respect you as you're not my boss. You're not my boss,
you're a supervisor, and I respected my supervisor. I want
the same respect from you. Don't ded me like them girls.
So I know she never liked me, okay, because I
always stand up to her.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh so when you did leave, you already were in
the process of getting the money that you were supposed
to get.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Oh yeah, okay, I start getting I start getting money
from the that Rebok commercial. Right, that's twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
It feels like your daughter was also very on it like,
come on, ma, we got to She always.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Be watching stuff, you know, because she she knows, you know,
she always she knows that who I am and everything,
and you know, I wasn't getting anything. So in times
she's saying things she would take she showed me and everything.
So I don't know. She said that on TV and
she said, Mommy, come on, you gotta do something. So yeah,
you're right because all these people making all these money
(24:44):
off and this, and that's that's my voice. That's me.
It was even for my voice because I know that's me,
and you know, we just get some you know, we
get some advice from attorney and one of them said
take it and didn't say him said this is a lot.
It's just too much. This is too much. It's that
you should you should own the whole thing. After so
(25:05):
many years, I tell him, I don't want the whole thing.
I just don't want what is right for mine.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Do you think that you would have pursued it if
it wasn't for your daughter encouraging you to do that?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah? Down the line, I would yeah, yeah, because I
was always work with grivy. I know, gravy that'll come
to it. Sometimes are you know, one of the one
of the Mandu that I worked, I work with Grivy
and you know and guys. And then when I come
to it after a while, moment, you need to do
something about this, you know. I know it was but
I glad my daughter did right, and I'm glad I did.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, No, I'm glad you did too. I was listen,
we were all when I was telling that, because even
behind the scenes, I was like, did y'all see this story?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And I couldn't. It was shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But it also shows you how this music business and
people will take advantage of what they will take advantage.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know what, I don't. I don't think it's advantage
advantage in a way. But I don't think it's an advantage.
It's just like it's just back in the days, we
weren't fighting for what it's really holsed. It's not like now.
It's not like now. You you know a person who
would want to record you, and you have all these
you have all these conditions that you give them before
(26:13):
before recording. Back then, you didn't have that right, you know,
you didn't you just go on just do anything.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
There was a point though, after Belly where you were
supposed to meet up. I think it was but Weinsday
and Riley. Yeah when I when I just came here
right and but it didn't show up. Yeah, you said
you waited for twelve hours.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I waited for twelve hours and he didn't didn't show up,
and I still you know, I just it was. It
hurt me because you know, it promised me that they
would be there and it didn't come. But you know,
it's okay, it's already done.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'm just wondering because I'm like, all right, So it
feels like people knew there was something that should be done,
but you really had to Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
that's a long How long did it take you to
finally get some type of resolution from when you first?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Twenty fourteen? The same time when I found when I
when I saw the rebook commercial, I think it was
it was February of twenty fourteen, and I startedting compensation
in April. Oh that's okay, yeah, because you know they
just say, you know what, when when the lawyers speak
to them and everything, you say, no, what just give
(27:17):
her because you know the giver. It's like they have
it waiting on me.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Right, how did how did you feel when that happened?
What I want to know, like, what was where were you?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
What was there?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Workmen?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I was on the computer by everybody.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I was on the computer, and I see, you know,
because I give them all my information and everything I
was on the computer. I have a zero balanced think
about zero seven jun and fifty balance. I oh the
bank seven hundred and fifty dollars and I see this,
So what the hell I should know? But it finished
that same day.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, And I could get to do everything. I say.
You know what it's it's it's a thing that as
long as I'm alive, I can, I can collect collected it.
It's not gonna get worse. It has to get better
because people use bam bam every day. People use bam
bam every day. So it's just me to make sure
(28:10):
that even after my time, my daughter, because I only
have one child and I'm not a grandmother yet or anything,
so my daughters can still you know, live live from
it the same, just the same. Now.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I saw a main source was in the documentary and
they said just hanging out first.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So they really are the first, the first, And.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I have a plaque at my house like this that
they made for me in Toronto, and they they you know,
they they frame it nice and there's a main source,
the first to sample bam bam, you're coming to my
host you see that? And I met them. They were
the first screening in Toronto. Wonderful guys. Yes they are.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I love I love all of this.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yes, So now you've been traveling all over you're booked
up until December.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
December, yeah, the first and after two.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But just know that like you're finishing that year.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Not only are you getting the money from this, but
you're doing what you love to do and continue.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
To performing perform. I love to perform.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Was it ever a slow time with the performances?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
First? It's slow in everybody, right, It doesn't matter how
you see an artists, all big thinking artists. I know
they don't work all the time. No, they don't, none
of us. It don't happen to none of us. It's
a slow time and it's a high time. It's just
like you at home. You know you have your children
when when wintertime? Not winter time, but when Christmas time
(29:31):
you spend your money. When January it's back to school. Yeah,
so you don't you see February and March. It's very
slow for you.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
The academy has everything really slow right now.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So it works like that, Yeah, it works, but it's
not for long. The mosse i'll stay at home is
a month. One month. I stayed home for a month
and just a month, And that bothers me because I've
never I've never been home a month. I always on
the street. I'm always working.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
What about the emphasis and like, don't know what vacation is.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Because I'm I vacated on my own.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, I can understand that. You tell me so much
that being at home is like release.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Home is the best place. My favorite place in the
world is. It's my home, in my bed, it's my
favorite place. So I don't really have to go nowhere
because I travel a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And you're also still recording music. Just I want to
make sure that people know that because you have new music.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's my new album right here easy?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh and yes, and so that was something that you
actually put at it. I think it came out first
a few years ago and then you added more songs.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Is that one came out? One came out a few
years ago, But I did all the songs together. Okay,
the producer just fields just see the fifth time now,
he's just ready to release all them.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna get in.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'm gonna get it release twenty twenty two. But you
just released all the songs now, which is good for me.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I think that's perfect time.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
And yes it is because you have this documentary and
I know people are going to be yeah back and
being like, okay, let's you know, let's dig some and
so everything.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Assist Nancy and also merched.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
You know, I have my skateboard here, and I believe
that this is also a first right for having your skateboard.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Nobody does that, only Gravy.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I bought mine here so that I could get a
signed so hopefully, yes I can't.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But there's no wheels on it, or you're gonna write
that thing. I hate it. I don't know why Gravy
made them like that. There's no wheels on that.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
The wheels. You get the board and then you add
the wheels on.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Oh you have the wheels.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, you're supposed to add them.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
On larger put that on. No, I don't think I
think loge to have the wheels on.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Because we're gonna hange.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
This terrible for you to do that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
We're not even gonna You're not even supposed to use this.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I know. I want to tell them to you.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, we got up somewhere.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's how I gotta get mine signed so we can
hang it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
That's no problem, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So how are you feeling today with all of these
iconic things happening? Like if you had to describe what
life is like persistent Nancy today after all that you've
been through, Yes, and also just still persevering, but also
being pretty dav putting out music, putting out a documentary,
what would you say?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know what I just said. I cannot complain. I'm
just grateful, appreciative of everything. I know it, and I
know what's gonna happen. It was just time I tell
people that. I tell my mother always say. She always
a Nancy God Wills, And before she passed away, she
she told me all of this. She said, it's gonna happen.
(32:25):
Things are gonna happen to you. You don't you won't
have to work hard or anything, because you're one of
the child that I have who is like this. If
I need to have you, I don't know what I
would do. And she told me that. Every day when
I go to the hospitality see her, she always tell
me that and always always things is gonna happen to you.
And and she died. And I don't know if she
blows on me or just not happening. But you know,
(32:49):
I can't complain, but I won't make nothing. Nothing amazed
me because I know it it was gonna happen to me,
right because I work hard for it. I'm the first
person who started this as a female in in the
dances Peace. I just said, so come on, I have
to there have to be something.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
To any of the dancer artists today.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Reach out or Spice.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Oh, we love Spices.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, Spice really loves me. She does. She tells me
that's great. So I really love your sister Nancy.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I always tell Spices man, I feel like her being
on love and hip hop. I'm like, they need to
give you more credit for all their tube accomplished. They
act like, you know, it's a little it's a little
crazy to me, but.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
What all of them do and I and I admire them.
I admire all of these ladies. Of course I listen
to some of them, not all of them. But I
admire the ladies because it's it's it's you know, it's impowermant,
you know, and if most of them would tell you
it's because of sister Nancy make this happen. I see
(33:46):
you when I was a little kid, and some of
them will and and that really touches.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Me and the younger generation who even just outside of that,
it's like that's who's really showing up.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And really all the time, all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I don't know, that's a special thing because I felt
like that's young people.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
They just they follow me everywhere and I like that.
I like that. And they told me that I inspire
them so much. And I really like that. You know,
every time I perform my crime, but people don't know,
they think it's sweat. What would I perform my cry
to see how people react to me? And you know,
after all of these years, you know, a grown woman
(34:27):
going in you know, in middle sixty, you know, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You don't find that, Yeah you don't.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You don't, you don't. But they told me there's a nanswer.
We just like the person that you are. You just
you just always there and you'll make people just laugh
everything you do and then you have that part of
you that's so conscious set it's like you really just
thought of you and we really love that and I
(34:55):
try my best to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Amazing. How how you're scared is so amazing too.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
By the way, I really just water, just water. I
only use water in my face, really, yes.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Ma'am and so and I think also diet too, Are
you vegan?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Not even eat? I love chicken and fish, okay, yes,
I love and if I can, I eat gold me.
But I have to cook it myself. I'm not vegan, okay.
But I do exercise. I walk three miles of the
morning and I tried to do and I do drink
a little, and I do smoke, and but I try
to do the best I can with me because nobody
(35:33):
knows me better than me.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
An'ty amazing?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
How smoking now it's just you could just do it anywhere,
think about how.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I know before I know? And I do it at
home though, And it's not vaping. It's just real smoke. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I smoke. It's not coke or crack
or hairlessp or you know, it's just smoke, the real thing.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I feel like that might be the next type of merch.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know, I gotta tell Gravy and I that one
over there that we have to I just want to say,
we need to smoke some bad We're going to make
it happen. We need to make it.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Do we know when the documentary is going to be
available on streaming services?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well, but it's available now.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It is.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, you can see, you can stream it. No one
get it, you know, because it's it's it's showing in
different places now, it's it's it's all around showing. Now. Okay,
it's in Trinida, they're trying to get it, in Jamaica,
it's in Ghana, Kenya. So as soon I think it's
gonna come here.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
A couple of times, yeah, it was like gone, and
then because the chosen New Jersey three times because in
it and people always I see you. I just saw
you an assistantcy documentary.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's nice. That's nice.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That was a blessing for me.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It's so common and you will know and and and
if you know you if you want to see, you
can see because I listen, listen, you can talk to
our listener. I know you can. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
No, And also you have a show coming up in Brooklyn,
living where I'm from.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You know what I'm saying, You're gonna come.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yes, December, better come at the Brooklyn Monarch.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You better come.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And I want to say Uncle Ralph.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Ralph McDaniels is hosting that nice styles pee that's my guy.
Also was going to be there, yes. And then from
from Janey, right we okay, that's gonna be Renee from
Jane is going.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
To be there too. Renee is a very nice lady.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
She is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I really like that lady. I saw a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
She's very nice, so sweet.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, she's a very nice lady. I like nice people,
you know, because I think all you treat people, that's
all you wanted to be treated, and you should so
And she's nice, Like you're a nice lady too.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, in this business, when you get to the
point where you like, I only deal with the people
I like, that's.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
A good feeling. But you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
But you can't feel like it's a good feeling for me.
You can because some people you don't know if you
like them until you deal with them, and afterwards, sometimes
you still have to deal with them because maybe.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
They Yeah, you know what you want to You want
people to not like your lawyer.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yess I don't like your lawyer because yes, yes, yes,
I like everybody's their job.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I like everybody. It's okay, all.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Right, Well listen, sister Nancy, thank you so much for
coming up here.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
It is the last thing to have you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Thank you, and we got to go see you December
eleventh at the Brooklyn Monarch.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
We're outside. Thank you, Changela, thank you.
With angela Ye and what an honor today to have
sister and Nancy here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
First greetings, greetings, my sister, Thanks for having me here.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh, thank you for coming. It's a blessing to have you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know, honestly before called bomb Bomb the best dancehall
song ever, number one on the list. But there's a
documentary out called bomb Bomb The Story Assistant Nancy, and
we really got to get a lot more insight into
everything that you've done and how you got to where
you are today. Okay, So how does that feel for
you to have your story out there?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know? It just it just works, hard work and
it pays off. That's all I can say. Just hard
work and it pays off for everything that you know
happens to assist a Nancy. You know, because I'm one
of the patient one. I have so much patient. I've
been waiting so long after doing so much work in
the industry, and waiting and still waiting too, because I
(01:02):
haven't yet done all of what I really set out
to accomplish, not everything I can say, but I'm still fighting.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, Well, I do want to say, after over forty
years since you started it feels like even when people
are meeting you for the first time, your aura and
how much perhaps they.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Give you, you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Know, that's amazing, and I think just a testament to
everything that you've accomplished that, you know, I think, like
you said, you're being patient. You're still waiting and getting
your just due. But I feel, like you said, there's
still more to come.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Of course they are. It never stopped. You know, you
can't just fight and then you stop. It's like you
never start fighting because there's tough. You know, it's tough
for you to accomplish, and you have just pulled through. Yeah,
of course I got I accomplished some already, but I
have more. You mean, is just it's big. Yeah, And
you know it's been to a lot, and you know
(02:00):
it's been to a lot, the music, the sampling, everything
has been to a lot. So I will never stop fight,
fighting for what's just mine.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Don't you feel like that's also the theme of the
song to Bam Bam, Yeah, I said a theme. Yeah,
Like the theme of the song is still just kind
of like, look I'm here, I'm fighting.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's what it is. It's an attack, that's what it is.
When I did it's nineteen eighty two, and that's what
it is today. It's an attack. Do you know that
I am coming? Just be weird. Give give them somewhere
because I'm old. There, I'm coming. That's it.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
What made you decide to do a documentary? I want
to know how that even happened.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
The documentary was not my idea, as I told me
to be people before I was working with an agent
and you know Montreal, just like I work with Gravy
from large job and he, you know he because he
loves me so much. And see when I perform what
you see the old people react to me. And he says, sistance,
(02:59):
you need to read some books. And tell him I
don't have time to write no damn book. So he said,
you know, you need to do a documentary. And the
thing I tell him at the time, I didn't. I
didn't have that. I don't know money to put out
not that in documentary, documentary, I'll get robbed so much
time and I'm still getting robbed. I ain't got no
money to put out documentary. He says, I know somebody
(03:19):
I can talk to for you. And he talked to
Alison Duke, who's a really nice lady from Hoya and
er Er he proposal to me, and you know everything
it was it was in my favor, and I said,
I like her, so I said, you know, I let
her do it because I trusted her and it was
(03:40):
worth my while, so I go ahead and do it.
And how that's it?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
How hard is trust now? Because like you said, you've
been through a lot when it comes to this business, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know, trust comes with you, know you always They
told you that friendship is what you learn, not that
not what you gain. So if you, if you, if
you it's her and you hearn a friend because it's
what you do. Make a person your friend. You just
don't go out and look a friend. You have to
earn that the whole way you deal with me. It's
(04:09):
like family and relative, they're two different people. Your family
is how people treat you. Your relative's my blood, you understand,
So you know you have to learn. I guess all
people treat you. That's how you trust people. And there's
people I trust, of course, like my daughter of course,
you have to Shandy of course, and my brothers and sisters. Still,
(04:29):
you know, I really and I have friends that I
really trust. They know theirselves, people that work could. I
trust them. They can do anything with me with money, anything.
I tell them to go ahead and do it because
I really trust them and work with them a lot.
But not everybody you can do that with, you know,
so I just take my time to learn people. I
guess right. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love the footage, the actual footage of being able
to see you perform when you were first getting started
in the business.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
How is that for you? Just kind of looking back
at some of these things I know you live through.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I don't think you see the first time perform You
have never.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Seen that, not the first time, but seeing that was sting.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
That was by nineteen ninety. It was that before I
become a restafar and with my dread lucks. That's a
long time, that's what you're talking. Yeah, okay, yeah, but
it's it's naturally. And you see, if you were born
to do something, you're going to do it, whether you
practice it or anything. It just comes perfect to you.
(05:26):
And I think I was born like this. I was
born to do music. My father music, my mother, my
sisters and brothers. You know, my brother Brigadier Jerry, who
inspired and is my mentor and everything so I was
born like this, so it just comes easy. You don't
think you were born to be on the radio. No, yes,
(05:46):
you were, she wouldn't be here.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You're right, You're right now give up. You would give
up already. This has been a career.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You're right, because there's things that we've had a job
than having a career, of.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Course, because you were chosen to do it. You know,
I work in the bank for sixteen years, and I
know that wasn't what I was supposed to do because
I've been doing music since I was fifteen years old,
but it was something that I had to do at
the time, coming to a different country. But then I
realized that they don't make no sense because I don't
love doing it. This is what I really love. Yeah,
(06:18):
and it's music. So this is my calling, and whatever
you do, it's yours.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
With the Assistant Nancy story, I remember reading and reporting
on because we never knew like the backstory of what
happened with the song. But I remember seeing the report
and actually putting it on the radio, talking about the
fact that you hadn't been getting money from the song.
It didn't even realize how much it had been sampled
not at all.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, until later, until I came here.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I came, I came to I migrate. I've been coming
here from nineteen eighty, but I migrated, you know, through
my mom. I came to live here nineteen ninety six.
And it's just in those times, like I think, nineteen
ninety eight, I really SEEO a powerful song is and
what's what he's doing. And I didn't I didn't even know.
Some people do. Some people still don't know who I
(07:05):
am because Peace he passed me all the time playing
the song. And look, they don't even notice me. I
won't tell them because I'm not like that. I'm so
I'm my own a person. I don't care. I don't care,
but you know, at least you know I am getting there,
and at least I'm getting compensation, you know, some ways
of what you know the world that I did. But
(07:28):
you know, it's it's it never stopped.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, daughter actually was watching Belly and so and so
that song and Belly is like, I think that song
is the one song that's the representative of the whole movie.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Whole movie. Yeah, I know, I watch it too. I
watch it all the time. I did it. I tape
it on on VCR because I watched it. I see
it there that day, and then I come back and
see it when it was playing another day. So I
tape it from the beginning to the to the hand
that's on the v said that we used to use
video in your home, because I still have it on VCR.
That's that's Meley.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, it's so interesting to me that, like you said,
you didn't realize how big Bam Bam was that you
came here, but you had songs that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Were big in Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's one too, yeah, one to Transport Connection. Those two
were big. Yes, the two were big, but they never played.
They never I never hear Bambam.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
That's so interesting because I know, like stuff always gets
big in Jamaica and.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Then here, oh no, not Bam Bam one towards the
song that's big down there and Transport Connection. But after
I get to you, I see the you know, the
movements of Bambam. I didn't even know that it was
because I never played there, right, never played.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And it's the most sample song yeah and read time
dancehall period, Yes it is. How much do you know
how many times it's been sampled?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know? I sub content because it's but it's it's
a lot of a lot of time, and it's and
it's it's it's only gets better because people use it
every day. And that's true. You get I get to
like people call the text, they email and asked me
to use it all the time. Some people I do
say yes and because and some people I said no
(09:06):
because I can't do it on my own. It's not
it does not belong only to me, because you know,
you have mister Riley and mister Riley Estate, and you
know they have their publishing and everything. So I can't
tell a person to use it. I have to consult
the other party to give them authorization. But most people
they use, they get it to use as long as
it do it for a while.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But what is great is that people have been actually
working with you, like Janelle Monnet.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yes, jay Z, Yes, I think that was a fascinating story.
So you were jay Z traveled to Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That's the best sample I ever had. And I was
telling them before that's the best one because he really
took me with him and I think that I think
that was the right thing to do. He didn't go
behind my back, you know, he called up Gravy and
they talk and we went and that's that's that's the
best thing, the best that's the best way to do it.
(09:56):
At least I'm a part of it. And he was
the right one who did it. So that's that's my
best sump right there.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Do you think that because people don't didn't know Like
a lot of times when artists are clearing samples, it's
lawyer is doing it, right, So the lawyer is calling
up somebody trying to figure out out who do we
need to contact. But maybe people weren't realizing, like we
can actually get in contact with systems.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of course they could, and a lot of them know
where to find me because I've been here. I've been here,
you know, years, I've been here, you know. But some
people just don't want to They don't want to be bothered.
They don't want to pay you to do that stuff
because they think they just can do it and get away, right,
you know, until you put stuffage to it. No, everybody
called me if they want to use it, but before
(10:36):
they never, they never. And then some things that was
done before, we still catch up on that, Like things
were done before, like the sampling, some of the something
that did before.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
You can go back, and we can't.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Go back, and you know, and you know we call
it just get that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It's interesting because when I first reported the story, I know,
they said they were able to go back ten years.
It wasn't the full thirty two at all time.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That's okay, okay, it was okay with me because you know,
after realizing that I wasn't getting anything for thirty two years,
you know, I was just and trust me, well it's not.
It wasn't easy living working a nine to five job.
And people may think that because I was an accountant,
work in the bank and make all this money, and no,
I made no damn money there. There was no money there.
(11:22):
But it was something that I could all on to. Meanwhile,
my daughter was going to school, college, university, you know what,
because I have to do the best for Shandy because
she's my life. And then but after everything started coming
and they said ten ten years, of course I wasn't
getting anything, right, I'll take ye, just give me the
(11:44):
ten years and then fifty percent. I couldn't ask for
anything better.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
That's great, and that's great, and it's great and great, great, Yeah,
it's trust me, it's life changing. Of course, it is
nice and you deserve it. Yes, it's not like yeah
and gave you any no, no, no, I work for that.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah. That's me. That's all my voice there, nobody else's own.
That's me. That's me, and I know that's me, all me.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And that voice is iconic.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I know.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I want to talk to you about the early days too,
because I know and when I think about Bambam and
the time period that you actually put out one to
your first project, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Not the first, that was once it was. No, My
first record was back in nineteen seventy nine. Yes, okay, yeah,
that's now.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Tell me about that though, because I can't even imagine
what it must have been like to be a woman.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
My first song was nineteen seventy nine. The name of
it was Paperline, for the same producer most of my
songs are on the Technique's label, okay, and for mister
Winston Riley, most of my songs, you know. So that
was seventy nine, and then I had one. The second
one was money Caned by Love that's in nineteen eighteen.
(12:54):
Then I have one in Proda way the same here
before one two and Transport Connection I did all those
songs first. Okay, you know so one towards nineteen eighty two,
So that first one I did from eighty two to
Transport Connection. Then I realized mister Raley said we need
to do an album, and then I finished album that year.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I want people to go back and listen to those
songs too, because.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I's still there, all of them.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I want people to cantallue to make sure they.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Because I've been doing this. I've been recording since nineteen
seventy nine from General Echo before he passed away. He
took me to mister Riley. So I did those songs
back in those days. But people think one two is
my first song. No, Papauline was my first song in
nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So being a woman in that business, what was that
like at that time?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like the well, it wasn't. It was hard because as
I said, I had my brother, really Jerry was who
is highly respected, is a very highly respected digion. People
give me a leniency and some of them, you know,
like Johnmay and listen them sorry for me because of
my big brother. Back in them times, I used to
(14:01):
I used to listen to this lady and she was
on the radio all the time. Her name is Momaliza
got the rest of her soul. And I used to
listen to her when I come from school. But I've
never seen her and not have seen her in the dance.
She was just like a record She was a record
artist on the radio, you know, transistor radio, and I
used to listen. You know, I want to do something
(14:21):
like that, and I want to do like my brother.
I always want to be like my brother, and up
to now, I still want to do that, you know.
So I just patternize him and and fell in love
with the gym and that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
And so even early on, like as far as doing
a deal, you had a record deal.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
No, I did not. You didn't have it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So you just were doing music. We don't know. We
don't have paperwork, no, no, okay, come on, Angela.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We didn't get no record deal when where No, we
just do music because we want to hear a voice
on the radio. We just love it, so we just
do it. We don't get nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So the money really just came from performing, is that?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yes? Okay, that's how we used to make money. Fifty
hundred dollars and then things because that's what they used
to pay us. It's a it's a little bit too,
but it was a lot of money at the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Now I was gonna say back and oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, we could do all kind of stuff. I could
go shopping and all that, but you don't know record
dealing in my time, we didn't get that.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Did you have a bigger vision of what you saw
for yourself when you were young? Because you love to perform,
and like you said, it wasn't like people were getting
record deals. They were just doing it because they loved it.
They wanted to be on the radio. But what's your
sister and Nancy say for herself as.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Every young one, I think everybody, every artist, yeah, wish
for the best for them. And I'm going to tell
you truth. Back in the days, I wasn't even thinking
about that. As I said, I wanted to be like
my brother. I wasn't traveling, you know. He was like
going to Trinidad and maybe those small islandes, no big no,
(15:47):
we call it Jamaicans a big faring. You know, America
is a big firing. That's all Jamaica style. You know,
I got big firing. No, those would go small faring
like Trinidad, and you miss mainly Trinidad. You would go
so back in the days, I just wanted to do
what he does. I wasn't even thinking of anything great.
As I said, I just want to hear my voice
(16:07):
on the radio. I just want to, you know, because
I was going to school too, so I was just
I just want to hear me. I just want to
hear you know, a record, and then give me a record,
says is your voice and you go my plate on
a changer record the turntable. You don't want the turntable,
is right, yeah. And so we used to go and
we played, you played the whole day. That's all I
(16:29):
wanted nothing else. I wasn't thinking no, big, nothing because
it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
And Bam Bam is the last song that she recorded.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
From Winton Riley.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
No from the album wasn't it was done and harm
was Bam Bam is the last song I did put
on the album because I didn't have all ten songs,
only had nine.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
So Bam Bam is the last track and I got
it through yellow Man. Wow. Yes, because yellow Man did
one of that day. When I went to the studio
with him, he did a bam bam with fed, So
I said, why not go to a bam bam? So
I did one. I didn't even know it to do.
You take me places, you know, I wasn't even thinking
of that, right, and it takes me everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
So then you moved to New Jersey. Was the first
place you moved when you came to the United States?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Or New Jersey where I live, Okay, even though I
still I am still there.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Right, Yes, So you said you came there because your
mom came.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
My mother came been near not from nineteen seventy eight,
so she came here to look away from our children,
all of us, and she did and sent for us.
The only one was there before was my big brother,
Brigadier Jerry. He came here on his own, but my
mother sent for all of us. And we're Holly and
all of us.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Is in New Jersey, Patterson. I'm in Patison, Patterson, Okay.
My sister's in Paddison and I have one niece, Orange.
And so then you started working at the bank, Yes,
and you're an accountry school.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I came here and my mother sent me back to
school because I was I was about you know, I'm
always like a little getaway boy. They call me Tom,
you know. And I was always never do what my
parents say to do. I'm always a bad, bad child.
So when I get here, my mother told me that
(18:15):
she wanted me to go back to school. But I
was always going to school in Jamaica because I love school,
you know, but go to school. But you know, we
about the same were, you know. And when I came here,
she said, I want you to go back to school,
so you can that's the music. You have to get
something to do. And I said okay, and I went
back to school. I get my gd's first, and after
I get my GD, I went to a corporate college.
(18:39):
And after the corporate college, I went to that business
school to do paralegal and an accountant. I choose accountant
because I wanted to handle my own funds.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So I choose accountent, which I could do both. But
the law I didn't like. Oh they talked to you.
I don't like our people. I don't like people boss me.
I'm very fasty, I'm very ignorant. And the mod who
knows me know that I stand up for myself. I
don't make you talk to me. You want to talk
to me, not gonna work. I'm to old for that.
I don't care what you have. You can't do it.
(19:14):
And jay Z can't tell you, you know because I
told him I got it a man and I'm a woman. No,
we equal. That's why I'm with my life. That's me.
I stand up for what I know, not believe. I believe.
It's a doubt. Knowing is now knowing. Yeah, So I
go to school and that's it. I get a job
(19:34):
and have to work, you know, tell my daughter to school.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I wanted to ask you, though your father was a pastor,
is that my father was a pastor? How does he
feel about you doing music? Because I know sometimes that
can be a little.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
When I was when I when I was born. My
father has been a sick person since the day I
get into this world and have since I can. I
can recall him at like from I was four years old.
That's all I remember my father. I have said, knowing
that that's what's dada. From that time, that's what we
(20:06):
call him dada. So and he was always a sick person,
my father. I never hear him speak because he lost
his he he lost his voice, and so I didn't
hear him preach, but my whole brothers and sisters did
because I'm the second to last one out of fifteen,
and so they always tell me everything that my dad do.
And people tell me your father could sing and you
(20:27):
have a wonderful voice. But it was not strange to
me because I never heard it, because I never heard
him speak. But that's what it was. And my house
was a was also a church. The house that I
grew up in was always a church. My brothers and sisters,
all of them can sing, who can sing, dance, who
can dance, play instruments. And I've been in been in
my family for as long as I can know, right,
(20:49):
so when I come do what I do, it's not
strange because I come and see my brother doing that. Right.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, I just know sometimes when religion and music and
some I've heard people when I get.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Really when I really bricoled in the music my father,
it was worse and sick. So it didn't bother my father.
My mother. Now you know, my mother always wanted the
best for a children, which and a parent want the
best for the kids, right, every parent. And then my
brothers and sisters see that. That's how I had as
I told him aboud, I they can't tell me what
to do. I do whatever I want all would I do.
(21:22):
When they come home, they will beat me, But I'm
going tomorrow again. I don't care. You can beat me tomorrow.
I'm still gonna go tomorrow. That's how I was raised
like that, right, And my mother was away and now
my father was there, but my father was sick. So
my big big brothers, my holy brother and sisters. Do
you know what them came? Ma neagto me. If I
fight them, I gotta fight. Yeah, I gotta go. So
(21:46):
that's all it is. But you know it was we
had discipline at home and everything, but one child was
always and that was that child was me. It was me.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
And then coming to work at a bank and New
Jersey at that time, and I see it amentary.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I know people are gonna west this and.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
See it for themselves, but you definitely were taken off
and on weekends talking.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Still, and so I like every day they kind of
knew who you were. Yes, they know because I used
to sell my CDs there. Yeah, I used to make
my I used to make my own one two cities
and I used to take them there and sell them
because I got a few Jamaicans worked there, and then
a few Spanish.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That they probably like, you know we work with, Yes
they do.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And then some people from columbiad work. They're not been
to Columbia, Mexican and people from Peru. And I've been
to those countries to work, so they know me, this
said Ciszancid. While we work with sister nants everything, but
my boss she she never knows until one day she
come and she said, come in Nancy. And I went
and I said, what do you want, mister? What do
you want Ladia? She said, away you went last week?
(22:47):
I said nothing. They loved that that mic we have
dropped on my foot, so I had the foot band
up and everything. There's not wrong on the foot, she said,
there's nothing wrong with your foot. I saw you. I
saw you and that competer bad bad bamming is I
saw you in Telliviv? She said, yes, I saw you.
Every week could tell me a different lie. Every week.
(23:07):
I tell my different like I start looking at you
on that computer and I see you everywhere you go,
this bad, bad, bad man. Let me say, okay, okay, lady,
it's me. What do you want me to do right,
you know. And then but I stopped lying to her,
and I say, you know what, I better just let
go and leave, you know, before them fire me.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Right, she probably want to know because it Yes, she
won't mention she don't like me.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
No, she don't like me. Should have fired me, should
fire me sooner or later? Because I am one of
the persons who stand up and talk to her. She's
four years older than me, you know, so she think
she talked to these young ladies on a certain way,
and I tell her, don't bring that to me. I said,
don't talk to me like that. I could not be
your daughter, your child. I'm a grown woman. So I
(23:51):
respect you as you're not my boss. You're not my boss,
you're a supervisor, and I respected my supervisor. I want
the same respect from you. Don't ded me like them girls.
So I know she never liked me, okay, because I
always stand up to her.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh so when you did leave, you already were in
the process of getting the money that you were supposed
to get.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Oh yeah, okay, I start getting I start getting money
from the that Rebok commercial. Right, that's twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
It feels like your daughter was also very on it like,
come on, ma, we got to She always.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Be watching stuff, you know, because she she knows, you know,
she always she knows that who I am and everything,
and you know, I wasn't getting anything. So in times
she's saying things she would take she showed me and everything.
So I don't know. She said that on TV and
she said, Mommy, come on, you gotta do something. So yeah,
you're right because all these people making all these money
(24:44):
off and this, and that's that's my voice. That's me.
It was even for my voice because I know that's me,
and you know, we just get some you know, we
get some advice from attorney and one of them said
take it and didn't say him said this is a lot.
It's just too much. This is too much. It's that
you should you should own the whole thing. After so
(25:05):
many years, I tell him, I don't want the whole thing.
I just don't want what is right for mine.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Do you think that you would have pursued it if
it wasn't for your daughter encouraging you to do that?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah? Down the line, I would yeah, yeah, because I
was always work with grivy. I know, gravy that'll come
to it. Sometimes are you know, one of the one
of the Mandu that I worked, I work with Grivy
and you know and guys. And then when I come
to it after a while, moment, you need to do
something about this, you know. I know it was but
I glad my daughter did right, and I'm glad I did.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, No, I'm glad you did too. I was listen,
we were all when I was telling that, because even
behind the scenes, I was like, did y'all see this story?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
And I couldn't. It was shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But it also shows you how this music business and
people will take advantage of what they will take advantage.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know what, I don't. I don't think it's advantage
advantage in a way. But I don't think it's an advantage.
It's just like it's just back in the days, we
weren't fighting for what it's really holsed. It's not like now.
It's not like now. You you know a person who
would want to record you, and you have all these
you have all these conditions that you give them before
(26:13):
before recording. Back then, you didn't have that right, you know,
you didn't you just go on just do anything.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
There was a point though, after Belly where you were
supposed to meet up. I think it was but Weinsday
and Riley. Yeah when I when I just came here
right and but it didn't show up. Yeah, you said
you waited for twelve hours.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I waited for twelve hours and he didn't didn't show up,
and I still you know, I just it was. It
hurt me because you know, it promised me that they
would be there and it didn't come. But you know,
it's okay, it's already done.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Right now.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'm just wondering because I'm like, all right, So it
feels like people knew there was something that should be done,
but you really had to Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
that's a long How long did it take you to
finally get some type of resolution from when you first?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Twenty fourteen? The same time when I found when I
when I saw the rebook commercial, I think it was
it was February of twenty fourteen, and I startedting compensation
in April. Oh that's okay, yeah, because you know they
just say, you know what, when when the lawyers speak
to them and everything, you say, no, what just give
(27:17):
her because you know the giver. It's like they have
it waiting on me.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Right, how did how did you feel when that happened?
What I want to know, like, what was where were you?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
What was there?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Workmen?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I was on the computer by everybody.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I was on the computer, and I see, you know,
because I give them all my information and everything I
was on the computer. I have a zero balanced think
about zero seven jun and fifty balance. I oh the
bank seven hundred and fifty dollars and I see this,
So what the hell I should know? But it finished
that same day.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, And I could get to do everything. I say.
You know what it's it's it's a thing that as
long as I'm alive, I can, I can collect collected it.
It's not gonna get worse. It has to get better
because people use bam bam every day. People use bam
bam every day. So it's just me to make sure
(28:10):
that even after my time, my daughter, because I only
have one child and I'm not a grandmother yet or anything,
so my daughters can still you know, live live from
it the same, just the same. Now.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I saw a main source was in the documentary and
they said just hanging out first.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So they really are the first, the first, And.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I have a plaque at my house like this that
they made for me in Toronto, and they they you know,
they they frame it nice and there's a main source,
the first to sample bam bam, you're coming to my
host you see that? And I met them. They were
the first screening in Toronto. Wonderful guys. Yes they are.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I love I love all of this.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Yes, So now you've been traveling all over you're booked
up until December.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
December, yeah, the first and after two.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
But just know that like you're finishing that year.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Not only are you getting the money from this, but
you're doing what you love to do and continue.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
To performing perform. I love to perform.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Was it ever a slow time with the performances?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
First? It's slow in everybody, right, It doesn't matter how
you see an artists, all big thinking artists. I know
they don't work all the time. No, they don't, none
of us. It don't happen to none of us. It's
a slow time and it's a high time. It's just
like you at home. You know you have your children
when when wintertime? Not winter time, but when Christmas time
(29:31):
you spend your money. When January it's back to school. Yeah,
so you don't you see February and March. It's very
slow for you.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
The academy has everything really slow right now.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
So it works like that, Yeah, it works, but it's
not for long. The mosse i'll stay at home is
a month. One month. I stayed home for a month
and just a month, And that bothers me because I've
never I've never been home a month. I always on
the street. I'm always working.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
What about the emphasis and like, don't know what vacation is.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Because I'm I vacated on my own.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, I can understand that. You tell me so much
that being at home is like release.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Home is the best place. My favorite place in the
world is. It's my home, in my bed, it's my
favorite place. So I don't really have to go nowhere
because I travel a lot.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And you're also still recording music. Just I want to
make sure that people know that because you have new music.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
It's my new album right here easy?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh and yes, and so that was something that you
actually put at it. I think it came out first
a few years ago and then you added more songs.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Is that one came out? One came out a few
years ago, But I did all the songs together. Okay,
the producer just fields just see the fifth time now,
he's just ready to release all them.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna get in.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I'm gonna get it release twenty twenty two. But you
just released all the songs now, which is good for me.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I think that's perfect time.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
And yes it is because you have this documentary and
I know people are going to be yeah back and
being like, okay, let's you know, let's dig some and
so everything.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Assist Nancy and also merched.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
You know, I have my skateboard here, and I believe
that this is also a first right for having your skateboard.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Nobody does that, only Gravy.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I bought mine here so that I could get a
signed so hopefully, yes I can't.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
But there's no wheels on it, or you're gonna write
that thing. I hate it. I don't know why Gravy
made them like that. There's no wheels on that.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
The wheels. You get the board and then you add
the wheels on.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Oh you have the wheels.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, you're supposed to add them.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
On larger put that on. No, I don't think I
think loge to have the wheels on.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Because we're gonna hange.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
This terrible for you to do that.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
We're not even gonna You're not even supposed to use this.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I know. I want to tell them to you.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, we got up somewhere.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That's how I gotta get mine signed so we can
hang it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
That's no problem, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
So how are you feeling today with all of these
iconic things happening? Like if you had to describe what
life is like persistent Nancy today after all that you've
been through, Yes, and also just still persevering, but also
being pretty dav putting out music, putting out a documentary,
what would you say?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know what I just said. I cannot complain. I'm
just grateful, appreciative of everything. I know it, and I
know what's gonna happen. It was just time I tell
people that. I tell my mother always say. She always
a Nancy God Wills, And before she passed away, she
she told me all of this. She said, it's gonna happen.
(32:25):
Things are gonna happen to you. You don't you won't
have to work hard or anything, because you're one of
the child that I have who is like this. If
I need to have you, I don't know what I
would do. And she told me that. Every day when
I go to the hospitality see her, she always tell
me that and always always things is gonna happen to you.
And and she died. And I don't know if she
blows on me or just not happening. But you know,
(32:49):
I can't complain, but I won't make nothing. Nothing amazed
me because I know it it was gonna happen to me,
right because I work hard for it. I'm the first
person who started this as a female in in the
dances Peace. I just said, so come on, I have
to there have to be something.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
To any of the dancer artists today.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Reach out or Spice.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Oh, we love Spices.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, Spice really loves me. She does. She tells me
that's great. So I really love your sister Nancy.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I always tell Spices man, I feel like her being
on love and hip hop. I'm like, they need to
give you more credit for all their tube accomplished. They
act like, you know, it's a little it's a little
crazy to me, but.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
What all of them do and I and I admire them.
I admire all of these ladies. Of course I listen
to some of them, not all of them. But I
admire the ladies because it's it's it's you know, it's impowermant,
you know, and if most of them would tell you
it's because of sister Nancy make this happen. I see
(33:46):
you when I was a little kid, and some of
them will and and that really touches.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Me and the younger generation who even just outside of that,
it's like that's who's really showing up.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And really all the time, all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I don't know, that's a special thing because I felt
like that's young people.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
They just they follow me everywhere and I like that.
I like that. And they told me that I inspire
them so much. And I really like that. You know,
every time I perform my crime, but people don't know,
they think it's sweat. What would I perform my cry
to see how people react to me? And you know,
after all of these years, you know, a grown woman
(34:27):
going in you know, in middle sixty, you know, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
You don't find that, Yeah you don't.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
You don't, you don't. But they told me there's a nanswer.
We just like the person that you are. You just
you just always there and you'll make people just laugh
everything you do and then you have that part of
you that's so conscious set it's like you really just
thought of you and we really love that and I
(34:55):
try my best to do that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Amazing. How how you're scared is so amazing too.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
By the way, I really just water, just water. I
only use water in my face, really, yes.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Ma'am and so and I think also diet too, Are
you vegan?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Not even eat? I love chicken and fish, okay, yes,
I love and if I can, I eat gold me.
But I have to cook it myself. I'm not vegan, okay.
But I do exercise. I walk three miles of the
morning and I tried to do and I do drink
a little, and I do smoke, and but I try
to do the best I can with me because nobody
(35:33):
knows me better than me.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
An'ty amazing?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
How smoking now it's just you could just do it anywhere,
think about how.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I know before I know? And I do it at
home though, And it's not vaping. It's just real smoke. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I smoke. It's not coke or crack
or hairlessp or you know, it's just smoke, the real thing.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I feel like that might be the next type of merch.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
You know, I gotta tell Gravy and I that one
over there that we have to I just want to say,
we need to smoke some bad We're going to make
it happen. We need to make it.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Do we know when the documentary is going to be
available on streaming services?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well, but it's available now.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It is.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Okay, you can see, you can stream it. No one
get it, you know, because it's it's it's showing in
different places now, it's it's it's all around showing. Now. Okay,
it's in Trinida, they're trying to get it, in Jamaica,
it's in Ghana, Kenya. So as soon I think it's
gonna come here.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
A couple of times, yeah, it was like gone, and
then because the chosen New Jersey three times because in
it and people always I see you. I just saw
you an assistantcy documentary.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's nice. That's nice.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That was a blessing for me.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
It's so common and you will know and and and
if you know you if you want to see, you
can see because I listen, listen, you can talk to
our listener. I know you can. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
No, And also you have a show coming up in Brooklyn,
living where I'm from.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You know what I'm saying, You're gonna come.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yes, December, better come at the Brooklyn Monarch.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You better come.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And I want to say Uncle Ralph.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Ralph McDaniels is hosting that nice styles pee that's my guy.
Also was going to be there, yes. And then from
from Janey, right we okay, that's gonna be Renee from
Jane is going.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
To be there too. Renee is a very nice lady.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
She is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I really like that lady. I saw a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
She's very nice, so sweet.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, she's a very nice lady. I like nice people,
you know, because I think all you treat people, that's
all you wanted to be treated, and you should so
And she's nice, Like you're a nice lady too.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
You know, in this business, when you get to the
point where you like, I only deal with the people
I like, that's.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
A good feeling. But you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
You can't.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
But you can't feel like it's a good feeling for me.
You can because some people you don't know if you
like them until you deal with them, and afterwards, sometimes
you still have to deal with them because maybe.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
They Yeah, you know what you want to You want
people to not like your lawyer.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yess I don't like your lawyer because yes, yes, yes,
I like everybody's their job.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I like everybody. It's okay, all.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Right, Well listen, sister Nancy, thank you so much for
coming up here.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
It is the last thing to have you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Thank you, and we got to go see you December
eleventh at the Brooklyn Monarch.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
We're outside. Thank you, Changela, thank you.
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