WUWY INTERVIEW: Jazlyn Martin Discusses Her 'Bel-Air' Casting, Upcoming EP 'Identity Crisis,' + More
August 29, 2024 • 27 mins
Jazlyn Martin Discusses Her 'Bel-Air' Casting, Upcoming EP 'Identity Crisis,' + More
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up, its way up with Angela Yee And as
promised when I saw Jazzline Martin in La, we have
you here our way up with Angela Yee, A real
official sit down.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So I wanted to make sure that we made that
happen because man, the BT media room was hectic.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That was a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, it was a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I think I did how many interviews did I do?
Thirty two in one day? In two days? I was like,
this is too much and I need to, like, I
gotta go home. Yeah No, But I also like the
opportunity to really sit down because it's a lot for
you too, like bouncing around doing a million interviews, and
a lot of times people do have to answer like
the same questions over and over again, like how do
(00:40):
I say this differently?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, and it's more intimate, more fun, more individual.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So, and I had a chance to start watching bel
Air season three, which is great thing. Well, first of all,
I'm glad you're there because I remember when the last
season ended they weren't sure they were against Jackie's character
coming back. I'm still I think as most of I
started trying to figure out what is going to be
the best scenario is Weill gonna stay with Lisa? Is
(01:05):
he gonna move on with Jackie? And there's some mystique
about you too, like you open up a little, but
we're not quite sure what Jackie's real story is, you know.
So for you being able to play that role, how
has that been life changing? Because you've been acting already.
But this is a pretty nice, you know, liituation that show.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, for sure, I think just the platform and just
the legacy of the show already carries on. So to
be able to do a reimagination is beautiful. And yeah,
I think Jackie's very mysterious. It's like we know she
has some brokenness, we know she's confident, we know she dances,
but we don't know too much about her. So I'm
very excited to explore more of you know, her childhood,
(01:46):
how she grew up, you know, what she's been through,
because I think a lot of people just see how
she wants to prevent present herself and not like who
she actually is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, she plays a little bit hard to get, but
you know when they first remember her and Will first met,
I was like, Okay, this could be cute.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
For him, huh. You know, I think Will needs to
be single. That's what I think. I think he's in
loving one.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He is in love with Lisa.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But you know what I think people tend to forget
in that scenario, he did go after his cousin's woman
or you know, that is Carlton's ex, right, Lisa, And
that's kind of foul a little bit, and I think
people don't think about that still anymore, like the fact
that that was your cousin's woman and then Carlton got
on drugs and that's probably part of it. You know,
(02:33):
I don't know, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's
a lot to unpack when it comes to that. So far,
we haven't seen well, we did see one situation where
you were you got a little.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Drunk, yes, yes see, and I created that was my
mom's anniversary of when she left, and that's why I
got drunk that night. But you know, we don't really
dive into much about her past. But yeah, you know,
she grew up with both parents being gone, so you know,
she looks to be loved and I think Will loves
her well and the best way she knows how so
(03:03):
you know, she tries to latch onto that and of
course her uncle was there, but he wasn't too present.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I believe he's Yeah, he's a little grimy, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, he has something to him.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know, in addition to doing this, you've also been
doing oh and last thing. To back up into the
dancing that Jackie does, you also got to choreograph on
the show. How exciting was that for you because you
were able to merge two things that you got together.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
My two loves. It was it was an honor. I
got to bring a little jazzling into Jackie, and Jackie
got to bring out a little more jazz. So it
was it was beautiful to be like, all right, I'm
gonna put both of these art forms into one.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
How was it getting casted for the show?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna tell you the whole story.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I do. That's exactly This is interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I remember it was on Wilship Boulevard. I was parking,
looking for parking because it's Beverly Hills and I don't
want to get a ticket. And I walked in and
there's another girl in the room. Actually no, I was
by myself, and I heard another girl on zoom and
I heard them giving her notes and I was like okay, okay,
do that. Okay, gotcha, and then some more girls came
(04:10):
in and this was for the callback too, so I
did a self tape and then they wanted me to
do it in person, and then I met Jabari and
we started going and I started improvising because I was
like screw it, and they're like, oh, for it. Oh
she a little spicy and I was like yeah, and
(04:30):
there last me where I was from. And I felt
really good at it, like I felt at peace. I
was like, even if I don't get it, I felt
like I went in there and did my best and
that's all I can do. And so I was waiting
a couple of days and my agent was like, we
should be hearing back today and I was like, okay,
I'm just gonna take myself on a walk, go get
some distance myself myself. And he calls me and he's
(04:54):
like hey, Jazz. I'm like hi. He's like, so they
made it decision and you're Jackie wow, and I was like,
are you playing with me? I can't breathe and I
did a little uptilt tier that's exciting, and it's like, yeah,
this is this is going to change your life for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So man, I can't even imagine having to go on
auditions and do like how many auditions would you say
you've been on?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Probably in the three hundreds like that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
How do you keep your spirits up? Because I know
that's not an easy job. Like I've never been on
an audition, but I've always heard about, like how you
know it can be so many like callbacks, callbacks. You
have your heart and your hopes have to get a
role and then a lot of times it doesn't happen.
And that's no like offense to your craft or what
it is that you do or how great you are,
(05:47):
but it's just you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's life, and it's very human for us not to
enjoy rejections. So it's like right, you know, it's like
after all the nose, it's like how do you keep going?
But I really like to remind myself that rejection is
God's protection and if it's not for me, then it's
not meant for me. And there's some things that just
aren't in your control. So I just go in and
do my best. And I think having a really strong
(06:10):
foundation and a strong purpose as to why I do
this keeps me going, right, because if I wasn't strong
and though, I'd be like, all right, I'm just going
to give up. This is the fiftieth no, but the
fifty one could be a yes. So it's like that's
my reason to keep going.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I love that too.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
We're very open about that because I know people will
watch this and be like, oh, yeah, she's They don't
understand the grind behind how you got to where you are.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You know, not that this is your first role.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You've had other roles, but to even know that, like
she's been on you know, hundreds of auditions and you
don't land every role. But in addition to that, like
you said, you have a strong foundation. So your parents, right,
your mom was a dancer and your dad a musician. Yeah, okay,
so talk to me about being raised that way in
the arts.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I love my parents. Shout out to my parents.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, happy home. Yes. So my mom grew up being
a dancer and my dad was signed to a record label.
He didn't love the music industry, so he very early
on educated me on how evil and corrupt it could be.
And he's like, you just got to really love it.
So he poured into me. All my music comes from him,
(07:14):
like Prins Music, Soul Child, DiAngelo, Jill Scott, all the
greats came from him. So they're always extremely supportive of
what I wanted to do. Even you know, they're like
you don't want to go to college or if you
just want to, they're.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Just extract because they understood.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
They understood, and it's you know, given me a couple
steps forward because I know a lot of people don't
have supportive parents, and I think the reason why I
think I can do what I do is because of them,
for sure. Right, They've planted that confidence in me.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And it's interesting because your EP that is coming out,
it's called the identity Crisis. Yes, now discuss that title
with me, because, like you said, you have a strong foundation,
loving parents who understood what it is that you want
to do, that were supportive of that. But yet identity crisis.
Let's discuss that identity crisis.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes. So I think growing up, I had a very
strong sense of my identity. You know, I was very strong,
full of joy attitude, and I feel like everyone has
gone through things and experiences and people that make you
question who you are. It's like, damn why did I
just do that? That's not me? Whoa whoa? You know,
and it kind of forces you to dim your light.
(08:22):
So I wanted to, you know, speak on my behalf,
on the different conflicts I have in my head and
the different things I've experienced, Like do I follow the
world or do I follow God? Do I be a
bad bitch? You know how society is promoting that? Or
do I just be me and be comfortable and love
who I am as I am? So just different things that,
(08:43):
you know, I think I've battled and a lot of
people don't really showcase what it is to go through
the identity crisis. And I think everyone has gone through
it right and continues to go through it no matter
age or ethnicity or gender. You know, we're always trying
to figure out who we are.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's kind of like a because who you are also
changes all the time, you know, And so yeah, I
can definitely attest to that. That's interesting that you say that,
because you can't be a bad bitch who follows God.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, exactly. And it's like the world's like you gotta choose,
you gotta choose one, And it's like, what if I
want to be all of them.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So, and your first song that you did was perfect, right,
it's called perfect. Now. I want to discuss that song
because the lyrics. Did you write that song yourself?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, with also stage Y and Trey.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, now that song the lyrics are beautiful and it's
also something that a lot of us, I think, deal
with just being open and vulnerable about the lyrics to
that song because you talk about, you know, sometimes you're
scared because we're not perfect at all and there's a
lot of flaws that we have. And so talk to
(09:49):
me about what was going through your head while you
were writing that. You said your pedestal was crumbling beneath
your feet.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I think as a society, I have a
really hard time giving people grace. And I think the
cancel culture is a really big thing. I don't love it.
I don't promote it. I think people fall and we
should help them get up. And I feel like, yeah,
I think men have put me on a pedestal. I
think society has put me on a pestal. The women
(10:16):
are expected to be perfect, and when we're not, it's like, damn,
do we deserve to be loved? Then? Are we still
going to be wanted if you do see my secrets
and my flaws. So I just kind of wanted to
be vulnerable, which is something I'm not very great at
for my first song, and kind of expose that, like
I may look like I got it all together, but
like I'm still human, So don't rob that from me
(10:39):
by labeling me as perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, that's there's a lot of pact.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Too, because you're right, because a lot of times we
also don't like to show how human we really are.
And I think sometimes being in the public eye, things
can bother you. It can hurt you. You could be not
happy with you know, what you had on on a
certain day, or how you looked on a certain day,
or even just you know, just this business is tough
and people are always critiquing you for superficial things too,
(11:12):
you know, instead of paying attention to like not knowing
if you've had a terrible day or if somebody's going
through something you just don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I was looking at.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
This this post on Instagram. This guy was in the
airport and he was having like a breakdown. Because I
don't know if you saw it, it was viral. I
guess the doors closed for the plane and he was like,
I want to I need to see my mom and
people were laughing him, and I was like, you don't
know what's really going on though, Like you don't know
if there's some like issue that he needs to and
they're not going to open the doors of the plane anyway,
(11:41):
so it doesn't matter, right, and you don't know what's
going on.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But people love to make jokes out of everything.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I think it's very easy to judge when you
don't know. So I just I wanted to encourage people
to give people grace. And like you said, it's like,
especially when you're in the eye, you always have to
be on, Like you can never have an off day,
you can never mess up. And I'm like, that's just
not human. That's not realistic and like just an unrealistic
burden to carry. And I don't want to be perfect.
I love I love that I mess up. That's where
(12:08):
I grow, it's where.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I learn, and you decided to.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So now jumping into music, that's a whole another thing.
So how does it feel? Because perfect, it seems like
it was. It was well received from people when they
heard it. I really it's really beautiful to listen to
you have a beautiful voice, Thank you too. And I
like that the lyrics, just listening to it and getting
like the deeper meaning of all of that. But how
is that for you, because that's a whole nother like
(12:34):
actually dances and now you sing.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, I've always been shied away from singing. I'm sorry,
just because people always knew me as a dancer, and
I'm like, okay, bet, I have to choose one thing.
Identity crisis, you know, like I can only be a dancer.
I can't be a singer and an actor. So now
transitioning into this world, it's drastically different, Like every day
(12:57):
there's something more I have to do, Like the process
just it's rough. I'm not gonna lie it's it's a
rough industry. But my dad prepared me for this, so
I just got to think, like I'm in it for
the art, I'm in it for the storytelling.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
So he knew at some point you would be a
singer and that you would put out music.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I started dancing first and then singing immediately. So I
started training when I was like eight, okay, vocal training,
but I just never like put out music. I was
just just kept singing but he knew this day would come,
and he's very protective and he's like, I know things
about the industry that you don't, and especially because you're
a woman, I want you to be very cautious. So yeah,
(13:40):
he's he's laid a good foundation for me.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And then you put out they say, was that the
second song?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, and the video and by the way, amazing that
you're able to do these great visuals too. You definitely
have Lord. Yeah, it's the one an advent is that
you have? Yeah, that's like a fun one.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yes, I had a great team. I had a great
team for that shoot. And yeah, I wanted to pay
much to La, so I want to do a lot
of LA spots. People in La who who know those spots?
And then it's the two thousands vibes So I wanted to,
you know, go back to that and yeah, it was
just a fun It was a fun shoot. And yeah,
I just that song was is your choreograph that too? No?
(14:21):
My boy, Kivaston like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Do it all a lot of my plate sometimes I
just want to follow yes exactly an artist, ykay.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So yeah he did, he did a great job, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Where do you see as far as what it is
that you.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Envision for yourself, because I know you're working with United
Masters right now, Why did you make that decision? Because
that's basically it's kind of being independent.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
R Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I want to own my music, for one and I
want to have creative control. I am very much so
a person that knows what they want and what the
action should be. And I never want anyone telling me
or telling me to be something else.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I think music is an expression of my soul
and I want to be the one to be like
this should come out and this is me as opposed
to cultivating to what they think would be popular or
a hit. And a mod who reached out to me
for United Masters, he just resonated with the project and
he was like, this is one of the greatest projects
I've heard in a really long time.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh, I know that felt good.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I was like, you don't got to lie to me.
Don't do that. I know you want me, but you
don't got to lie. And he was like, no, I
don't get paid enough to lie. And I was like,
that's fair, that's fair. So yeah, I love when people
connect with the with the project.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Was that the only like, was there any other considerations?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
There were, but that was the one that really stood
out that I was like, yeah, this is the one, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And how does how involved is your father in since
you said he's he's been kind of getting you ready
for this time in your life. So now how involved
is he as decisions are being made? Is it a
data jer situation?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
No? No no, I want to keep business and the
family said no, no, no, no, no no no no. Sometimes
he gets a little involved. He's like, I think you
should do this. I said, Dad, I like it like this,
so we're gonna leave it like this is that okay?
He's like, okay, yeah, this is your music. So he's
he's involved with some critiques. But he actually produced one
of the songs on the.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I was gonna ask you that next doing music with you?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yes, he did Stuck in the Middle, which is the interlude.
So yeah, you produced that one.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And so the project is out on August thirtieth, right,
that's the other release date, right before Labor Day weekend. Yes,
so we love that for you. And how many songs
on the EP? Because I know Fruit is out right
well about to come out. I don't think it's out.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yet, No, not yet, Okay, it's gonna drop on the thirtieth.
And there's seven songs.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, seven songs, and that's exciting to share this out
with the world. It feels like also from when you
put a for single out to now that's a pretty
quick yeah, release, so you can do what you want.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I was. I was anxious. I was like, I
just want to get my music out. And then it
was really my team that like, you have to do
a rollout when it comes to this stuff, and I
was like, why, let's just put it out and so yeah,
they've been very gracious with me and helping me learn
about rollouts. So but yeah, seven songs and you're gonna
(17:26):
the last song is like a bluesy gospelish Wow. It's
very big. That's how I explain it. It's very big
and raw and vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
What's it about? Can we get a little?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's about so many things. It's called Lead Me to Love,
and it's basically it's kind of deals with self hate.
And I wrote it when I felt like I wasn't
myself and when I was just like ashamed of myself,
and it's basically like lead me back to God because
God is love, so lead me back to myself. And yeah,
(17:59):
it's just feeling broken and sad and just yeah, like
I don't I don't like me right now?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What was it about yourself that you didn't like? Like
what was happening?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So much was happening? That's a great question. I think
like a lot of personal things, how I handled certain
situations I wasn't proud of, and a lot with you know,
family and friends, and it was a big change in
my life. I think this was during like the show,
(18:32):
so it was like so many new transitions in my
life that I was like, ooh, this is a lot.
I don't know how to navigate through this.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So that is a tough time though, because things will
change as you get a lot more going on. And yeah,
I'm sure you were really busy yeah during that time. Yeah,
but I but you said you didn't like how you
handled it. Accountability is important too, sure, you know, instead
of saying, oh, you know, forget them, you didn't like
there in ways that you were acting. Yeah, which is
(19:02):
different because a lot of people would be like, man,
forget them, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, yeah, I'm not like that. I'm very I'm very
hard of myself and I like to think I moved
through the world with light and love, and so when
I don't reflect that, I'm like, damn, I'm a bad person.
And that's where, you know what the identity crisis comes through,
because you know, we all do things we're not proud
of and that's just human.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And how did you handle that?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I went to therapy.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, I started therapy. Okay, yes I did.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And yeah, I just got a stronger foundation with God
and just poured into myself. I started doing like salsa
classes and doing hikes and swimming and just doing you
know things that you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Know, self care things.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, things I used to love to do as a kid.
And I was like, I want to nurture that little girl.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And did you address situations that you felt like you
weren't proud of?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
How you handled yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, yeah, I always Yes, I love those type of conversations.
Allows me to grow, allows me to learn, and I'm
a pretty confrontational person, so I'm very blunt, so I
appreciate those conversations in a safe space.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Do you feel like you and the character of Jackie
on Bell Air, there's any like, what do you draw
from in your real life. When you think about that
character that you're like, Okay, I can take this from
how I really am and put this into this character.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's a good question. I don't think me and Jackie
are very similar, but I think I can relate to her.
I think everyone can relate to another human being. I
think we're both very strong minded and confident, and we
know what we want. I just think Jackie has had
(20:47):
to go through things that I haven't had to go through,
and the way she survives looks different than me. You know,
I haven't really had a survival mindset growing up. I
was allowed to be a child, but I don't think
Jackie was given that luxury. I think she was always
you know, growing up in South Central with no parents.
It's like you really kill or be killed.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I feel like we're going to see a lot happening
in this season that we don't know about yet, just
based off of these answers.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't think you'll see it. It's crazy, but yeah,
I think, you know, I think she is very mysterious
and people are like, I want to know more about her,
and I think she's just very closed off.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
What is some crazy things that have happened to you
since the show and the success of bel Air.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh, probably Tokyo. I was in Tokyo with my friend
and I was eating at a mall and some girl
came up to me and she's like, can I take
a picture with you? And I was like, you know,
first thing, I'm like, cause I'm black. Y'all gone on
black people here? And then she saw my confusion. She
was like, I watched the drama bel Air, and I said, oh.
(21:53):
I was like, in Tokyo, what do you guys do?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
How some all the world is now ray so much
access that we have to just think about streaming services
weren't always around and they weren't always global the way that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It is now. That's good. Look at you, superstar Tokyo.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I was like, okay, thanks for watching. Now.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Would you tell Jackie to pursue Will or would you say, girl,
leave him alone? If you were to give if that
was your homegirl and you were giving her advice.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That's a good question. That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
What would you say, go link up a Carlton instead.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Get you? I told him. I was like, you know,
Carlton and Jackie shit since you know, but I would
probably respectfully be like girl, it's time to it's time
to go a different way, right.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He's playing games.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He's playing games, and it's like, you don't need you
don't need that, you need safety. You want to feel loved,
you want to feel wanted.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And it's messy with your uncle too.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I mean, but that's my uncle's fault. I don't think
Jackie was messy. I think Jackie tried to handle it
the best way.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But it is a bad situation to be in the
middle of.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yes, yeah, and put a seventeen year old girl in
that like and with emotions and feelings involved, like it's
gonna get messy. But I don't think it was her fault.
I don't think she has But yeah, I think i'd
be like, friend, I want you to feel wanted, and
he clearly wants someone else, and he might want her.
I think he does still, but it's like you got
(23:20):
to make a decision with both.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It feels like I think both of them fulfill that
certainty for sure. He probably feels, you know, a sense
of connection with Jackie's character, just because of how he
grew up and where she is now and him not
having his father president in his life and being raised
by his aunt and uncle.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's like two unlovable characters finding love in each other.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So yeah, but then maybe Lisa is more stable for him.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I think Will just needs to be single and
figuring himself out.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
But we're gonna see what's bel air.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
We just need to make sure that Jackie's back for
the next season too. That's what really meant. We got
to make sure you hang in there if you've got
to link up with someone else or whatever is gonna
happen everyone, we need to keep it going. But again,
the album that well, the EP is out, we're calling
the EP. But seven songs, that's a long, that's a
nice that's almost an album almost, So that means the
(24:15):
album's coming soon too, hopefully following. Yeah, and when you
are once you put this out, are you planning to
do some live shows, go on tour?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, definitely, planting sees to do live shows and tours
whatever God has in store for me.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Who's been the most amazing person that's reached out to
you musically at this point? Because I see people in
your comments musically that's like, yo, let's collab or have
you reached out to anybody?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Maybe you guys know yeah. I mean there's a feature
on the project. Who's great?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Okay, all right, are.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
We allowed to it's coming out our first Yeah, yeah,
it's a great feature. He's he's he's an amazing, amazing songwriter,
amazing artists. So R and B.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay, can I wait to see what this is all about?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What city? What's it?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Let me stop trying to get San Diego.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Okay, for San Diego, Yeah, born born in San Diego.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
All right, let me let me google Florida, all right, the.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Entire United States of America.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, what are the goals for you now? Because you've
been knocking them down? You know, you've been doing your dancing,
you've been doing your choreography, you've been acting, you're singing,
you're writing.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
What is the ultimate for you?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Oh? I don't know. Yeah. I always like the quote,
if you want to make God laugh, tell me your plans, right, So,
I mean I definitely have dreams, but you know, I
think wherever the wind carries me, yeah, whatever makes me
happy in the moment, music's really doing that for me
(26:05):
right now. So I'm really giving my all the music,
whether that be tours or shows and or be a movie.
I would love to do like a musical movie.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Now that's perfect. See now there you go. That would
mix mix everything in together. I think you'll be amazing
at that musical movie. Maybe one of those live you
know how they do the live action. I can see
you doing that. Yeah, okay, well let's put it in
an atmosphere that's out there.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And again, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So much for coming through.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I know we ran into each other and we you know,
didn't have much time and everybody was being pulled in
different directions. But I appreciate you keeping your word and
coming up here for to sit down.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
All right, so we're going to be listening for this EP.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I cannot wait to see who the San Diego, Florida
person collab is on the project.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But congratulations to you on everything. You've really been killing it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
All right, it's way up
What's up, its way up with Angela Yee And as
promised when I saw Jazzline Martin in La, we have
you here our way up with Angela Yee, A real
official sit down.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
So I wanted to make sure that we made that
happen because man, the BT media room was hectic.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That was a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, it was a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I think I did how many interviews did I do?
Thirty two in one day? In two days? I was like,
this is too much and I need to, like, I
gotta go home. Yeah No, But I also like the
opportunity to really sit down because it's a lot for
you too, like bouncing around doing a million interviews, and
a lot of times people do have to answer like
the same questions over and over again, like how do
(00:40):
I say this differently?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, and it's more intimate, more fun, more individual.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So, and I had a chance to start watching bel
Air season three, which is great thing. Well, first of all,
I'm glad you're there because I remember when the last
season ended they weren't sure they were against Jackie's character
coming back. I'm still I think as most of I
started trying to figure out what is going to be
the best scenario is Weill gonna stay with Lisa? Is
(01:05):
he gonna move on with Jackie? And there's some mystique
about you too, like you open up a little, but
we're not quite sure what Jackie's real story is, you know.
So for you being able to play that role, how
has that been life changing? Because you've been acting already.
But this is a pretty nice, you know, liituation that show.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, for sure, I think just the platform and just
the legacy of the show already carries on. So to
be able to do a reimagination is beautiful. And yeah,
I think Jackie's very mysterious. It's like we know she
has some brokenness, we know she's confident, we know she dances,
but we don't know too much about her. So I'm
very excited to explore more of you know, her childhood,
(01:46):
how she grew up, you know, what she's been through,
because I think a lot of people just see how
she wants to prevent present herself and not like who
she actually is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, she plays a little bit hard to get, but
you know when they first remember her and Will first met,
I was like, Okay, this could be cute.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
For him, huh. You know, I think Will needs to
be single. That's what I think. I think he's in
loving one.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
He is in love with Lisa.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But you know what I think people tend to forget
in that scenario, he did go after his cousin's woman
or you know, that is Carlton's ex, right, Lisa, And
that's kind of foul a little bit, and I think
people don't think about that still anymore, like the fact
that that was your cousin's woman and then Carlton got
on drugs and that's probably part of it. You know,
(02:33):
I don't know, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's
a lot to unpack when it comes to that. So far,
we haven't seen well, we did see one situation where
you were you got a little.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Drunk, yes, yes see, and I created that was my
mom's anniversary of when she left, and that's why I
got drunk that night. But you know, we don't really
dive into much about her past. But yeah, you know,
she grew up with both parents being gone, so you know,
she looks to be loved and I think Will loves
her well and the best way she knows how so
(03:03):
you know, she tries to latch onto that and of
course her uncle was there, but he wasn't too present.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I believe he's Yeah, he's a little grimy, a little bit.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, he has something to him.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You know, in addition to doing this, you've also been
doing oh and last thing. To back up into the
dancing that Jackie does, you also got to choreograph on
the show. How exciting was that for you because you
were able to merge two things that you got together.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
My two loves. It was it was an honor. I
got to bring a little jazzling into Jackie, and Jackie
got to bring out a little more jazz. So it
was it was beautiful to be like, all right, I'm
gonna put both of these art forms into one.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
How was it getting casted for the show?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh my gosh, I'm gonna tell you the whole story.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I do. That's exactly This is interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I remember it was on Wilship Boulevard. I was parking,
looking for parking because it's Beverly Hills and I don't
want to get a ticket. And I walked in and
there's another girl in the room. Actually no, I was
by myself, and I heard another girl on zoom and
I heard them giving her notes and I was like okay, okay,
do that. Okay, gotcha, and then some more girls came
(04:10):
in and this was for the callback too, so I
did a self tape and then they wanted me to
do it in person, and then I met Jabari and
we started going and I started improvising because I was
like screw it, and they're like, oh, for it. Oh
she a little spicy and I was like yeah, and
(04:30):
there last me where I was from. And I felt
really good at it, like I felt at peace. I
was like, even if I don't get it, I felt
like I went in there and did my best and
that's all I can do. And so I was waiting
a couple of days and my agent was like, we
should be hearing back today and I was like, okay,
I'm just gonna take myself on a walk, go get
some distance myself myself. And he calls me and he's
(04:54):
like hey, Jazz. I'm like hi. He's like, so they
made it decision and you're Jackie wow, and I was like,
are you playing with me? I can't breathe and I
did a little uptilt tier that's exciting, and it's like, yeah,
this is this is going to change your life for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So man, I can't even imagine having to go on
auditions and do like how many auditions would you say
you've been on?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Probably in the three hundreds like that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
How do you keep your spirits up? Because I know
that's not an easy job. Like I've never been on
an audition, but I've always heard about, like how you
know it can be so many like callbacks, callbacks. You
have your heart and your hopes have to get a
role and then a lot of times it doesn't happen.
And that's no like offense to your craft or what
it is that you do or how great you are,
(05:47):
but it's just you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's life, and it's very human for us not to
enjoy rejections. So it's like right, you know, it's like
after all the nose, it's like how do you keep going?
But I really like to remind myself that rejection is
God's protection and if it's not for me, then it's
not meant for me. And there's some things that just
aren't in your control. So I just go in and
do my best. And I think having a really strong
(06:10):
foundation and a strong purpose as to why I do
this keeps me going, right, because if I wasn't strong
and though, I'd be like, all right, I'm just going
to give up. This is the fiftieth no, but the
fifty one could be a yes. So it's like that's
my reason to keep going.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I love that too.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
We're very open about that because I know people will
watch this and be like, oh, yeah, she's They don't
understand the grind behind how you got to where you are.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
You know, not that this is your first role.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You've had other roles, but to even know that, like
she's been on you know, hundreds of auditions and you
don't land every role. But in addition to that, like
you said, you have a strong foundation. So your parents, right,
your mom was a dancer and your dad a musician. Yeah, okay,
so talk to me about being raised that way in
the arts.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I love my parents. Shout out to my parents.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We love to hear that.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, happy home. Yes. So my mom grew up being
a dancer and my dad was signed to a record label.
He didn't love the music industry, so he very early
on educated me on how evil and corrupt it could be.
And he's like, you just got to really love it.
So he poured into me. All my music comes from him,
(07:14):
like Prins Music, Soul Child, DiAngelo, Jill Scott, all the
greats came from him. So they're always extremely supportive of
what I wanted to do. Even you know, they're like
you don't want to go to college or if you
just want to, they're.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Just extract because they understood.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
They understood, and it's you know, given me a couple
steps forward because I know a lot of people don't
have supportive parents, and I think the reason why I
think I can do what I do is because of them,
for sure. Right, They've planted that confidence in me.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And it's interesting because your EP that is coming out,
it's called the identity Crisis. Yes, now discuss that title
with me, because, like you said, you have a strong foundation,
loving parents who understood what it is that you want
to do, that were supportive of that. But yet identity crisis.
Let's discuss that identity crisis.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes. So I think growing up, I had a very
strong sense of my identity. You know, I was very strong,
full of joy attitude, and I feel like everyone has
gone through things and experiences and people that make you
question who you are. It's like, damn why did I
just do that? That's not me? Whoa whoa? You know,
and it kind of forces you to dim your light.
(08:22):
So I wanted to, you know, speak on my behalf,
on the different conflicts I have in my head and
the different things I've experienced, Like do I follow the
world or do I follow God? Do I be a
bad bitch? You know how society is promoting that? Or
do I just be me and be comfortable and love
who I am as I am? So just different things that,
(08:43):
you know, I think I've battled and a lot of
people don't really showcase what it is to go through
the identity crisis. And I think everyone has gone through
it right and continues to go through it no matter
age or ethnicity or gender. You know, we're always trying
to figure out who we are.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's kind of like a because who you are also
changes all the time, you know, And so yeah, I
can definitely attest to that. That's interesting that you say that,
because you can't be a bad bitch who follows God.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, exactly. And it's like the world's like you gotta choose,
you gotta choose one, And it's like, what if I
want to be all of them.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So, and your first song that you did was perfect, right,
it's called perfect. Now. I want to discuss that song
because the lyrics. Did you write that song yourself?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yes, with also stage Y and Trey.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Okay, now that song the lyrics are beautiful and it's
also something that a lot of us, I think, deal
with just being open and vulnerable about the lyrics to
that song because you talk about, you know, sometimes you're
scared because we're not perfect at all and there's a
lot of flaws that we have. And so talk to
(09:49):
me about what was going through your head while you
were writing that. You said your pedestal was crumbling beneath
your feet.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I think as a society, I have a
really hard time giving people grace. And I think the
cancel culture is a really big thing. I don't love it.
I don't promote it. I think people fall and we
should help them get up. And I feel like, yeah,
I think men have put me on a pedestal. I
think society has put me on a pestal. The women
(10:16):
are expected to be perfect, and when we're not, it's like, damn,
do we deserve to be loved? Then? Are we still
going to be wanted if you do see my secrets
and my flaws. So I just kind of wanted to
be vulnerable, which is something I'm not very great at
for my first song, and kind of expose that, like
I may look like I got it all together, but
like I'm still human, So don't rob that from me
(10:39):
by labeling me as perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, that's there's a lot of pact.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Too, because you're right, because a lot of times we
also don't like to show how human we really are.
And I think sometimes being in the public eye, things
can bother you. It can hurt you. You could be not
happy with you know, what you had on on a
certain day, or how you looked on a certain day,
or even just you know, just this business is tough
and people are always critiquing you for superficial things too,
(11:12):
you know, instead of paying attention to like not knowing
if you've had a terrible day or if somebody's going
through something you just don't know what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I was looking at.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
This this post on Instagram. This guy was in the
airport and he was having like a breakdown. Because I
don't know if you saw it, it was viral. I
guess the doors closed for the plane and he was like,
I want to I need to see my mom and
people were laughing him, and I was like, you don't
know what's really going on though, Like you don't know
if there's some like issue that he needs to and
they're not going to open the doors of the plane anyway,
(11:41):
so it doesn't matter, right, and you don't know what's
going on.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But people love to make jokes out of everything.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I think it's very easy to judge when you
don't know. So I just I wanted to encourage people
to give people grace. And like you said, it's like,
especially when you're in the eye, you always have to
be on, Like you can never have an off day,
you can never mess up. And I'm like, that's just
not human. That's not realistic and like just an unrealistic
burden to carry. And I don't want to be perfect.
I love I love that I mess up. That's where
(12:08):
I grow, it's where.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I learn, and you decided to.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So now jumping into music, that's a whole another thing.
So how does it feel? Because perfect, it seems like
it was. It was well received from people when they
heard it. I really it's really beautiful to listen to
you have a beautiful voice, Thank you too. And I
like that the lyrics, just listening to it and getting
like the deeper meaning of all of that. But how
is that for you, because that's a whole nother like
(12:34):
actually dances and now you sing.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, I've always been shied away from singing. I'm sorry,
just because people always knew me as a dancer, and
I'm like, okay, bet, I have to choose one thing.
Identity crisis, you know, like I can only be a dancer.
I can't be a singer and an actor. So now
transitioning into this world, it's drastically different, Like every day
(12:57):
there's something more I have to do, Like the process
just it's rough. I'm not gonna lie it's it's a
rough industry. But my dad prepared me for this, so
I just got to think, like I'm in it for
the art, I'm in it for the storytelling.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
So he knew at some point you would be a
singer and that you would put out music.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I started dancing first and then singing immediately. So I
started training when I was like eight, okay, vocal training,
but I just never like put out music. I was
just just kept singing but he knew this day would come,
and he's very protective and he's like, I know things
about the industry that you don't, and especially because you're
a woman, I want you to be very cautious. So yeah,
(13:40):
he's he's laid a good foundation for me.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And then you put out they say, was that the
second song?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, and the video and by the way, amazing that
you're able to do these great visuals too. You definitely
have Lord. Yeah, it's the one an advent is that
you have? Yeah, that's like a fun one.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yes, I had a great team. I had a great
team for that shoot. And yeah, I wanted to pay
much to La, so I want to do a lot
of LA spots. People in La who who know those spots?
And then it's the two thousands vibes So I wanted to,
you know, go back to that and yeah, it was
just a fun It was a fun shoot. And yeah,
I just that song was is your choreograph that too? No?
(14:21):
My boy, Kivaston like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Do it all a lot of my plate sometimes I
just want to follow yes exactly an artist, ykay.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So yeah he did, he did a great job, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Where do you see as far as what it is
that you.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Envision for yourself, because I know you're working with United
Masters right now, Why did you make that decision? Because
that's basically it's kind of being independent.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
R Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I want to own my music, for one and I
want to have creative control. I am very much so
a person that knows what they want and what the
action should be. And I never want anyone telling me
or telling me to be something else.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I think music is an expression of my soul
and I want to be the one to be like
this should come out and this is me as opposed
to cultivating to what they think would be popular or
a hit. And a mod who reached out to me
for United Masters, he just resonated with the project and
he was like, this is one of the greatest projects
I've heard in a really long time.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh, I know that felt good.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I was like, you don't got to lie to me.
Don't do that. I know you want me, but you
don't got to lie. And he was like, no, I
don't get paid enough to lie. And I was like,
that's fair, that's fair. So yeah, I love when people
connect with the with the project.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Was that the only like, was there any other considerations?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
There were, but that was the one that really stood
out that I was like, yeah, this is the one, okay.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And how does how involved is your father in since
you said he's he's been kind of getting you ready
for this time in your life. So now how involved
is he as decisions are being made? Is it a
data jer situation?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
No? No no, I want to keep business and the
family said no, no, no, no, no no no no. Sometimes
he gets a little involved. He's like, I think you
should do this. I said, Dad, I like it like this,
so we're gonna leave it like this is that okay?
He's like, okay, yeah, this is your music. So he's
he's involved with some critiques. But he actually produced one
of the songs on the.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I was gonna ask you that next doing music with you?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yes, he did Stuck in the Middle, which is the interlude.
So yeah, you produced that one.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
And so the project is out on August thirtieth, right,
that's the other release date, right before Labor Day weekend. Yes,
so we love that for you. And how many songs
on the EP? Because I know Fruit is out right
well about to come out. I don't think it's out.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yet, No, not yet, Okay, it's gonna drop on the thirtieth.
And there's seven songs.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, seven songs, and that's exciting to share this out
with the world. It feels like also from when you
put a for single out to now that's a pretty
quick yeah, release, so you can do what you want.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I was. I was anxious. I was like, I
just want to get my music out. And then it
was really my team that like, you have to do
a rollout when it comes to this stuff, and I
was like, why, let's just put it out and so yeah,
they've been very gracious with me and helping me learn
about rollouts. So but yeah, seven songs and you're gonna
(17:26):
the last song is like a bluesy gospelish Wow. It's
very big. That's how I explain it. It's very big
and raw and vulnerable.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
What's it about? Can we get a little?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's about so many things. It's called Lead Me to Love,
and it's basically it's kind of deals with self hate.
And I wrote it when I felt like I wasn't
myself and when I was just like ashamed of myself,
and it's basically like lead me back to God because
God is love, so lead me back to myself. And yeah,
(17:59):
it's just feeling broken and sad and just yeah, like
I don't I don't like me right now?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What was it about yourself that you didn't like? Like
what was happening?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
So much was happening? That's a great question. I think
like a lot of personal things, how I handled certain
situations I wasn't proud of, and a lot with you know,
family and friends, and it was a big change in
my life. I think this was during like the show,
(18:32):
so it was like so many new transitions in my
life that I was like, ooh, this is a lot.
I don't know how to navigate through this.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
So that is a tough time though, because things will
change as you get a lot more going on. And yeah,
I'm sure you were really busy yeah during that time. Yeah,
but I but you said you didn't like how you
handled it. Accountability is important too, sure, you know, instead
of saying, oh, you know, forget them, you didn't like
there in ways that you were acting. Yeah, which is
(19:02):
different because a lot of people would be like, man,
forget them, Like.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
No, yeah, I'm not like that. I'm very I'm very
hard of myself and I like to think I moved
through the world with light and love, and so when
I don't reflect that, I'm like, damn, I'm a bad person.
And that's where, you know what the identity crisis comes through,
because you know, we all do things we're not proud
of and that's just human.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
And how did you handle that?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I went to therapy.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Okay, I started therapy. Okay, yes I did.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
And yeah, I just got a stronger foundation with God
and just poured into myself. I started doing like salsa
classes and doing hikes and swimming and just doing you
know things that you.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Know, self care things.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, things I used to love to do as a kid.
And I was like, I want to nurture that little girl.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And did you address situations that you felt like you
weren't proud of?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
How you handled yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, yeah, I always Yes, I love those type of conversations.
Allows me to grow, allows me to learn, and I'm
a pretty confrontational person, so I'm very blunt, so I
appreciate those conversations in a safe space.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Do you feel like you and the character of Jackie
on Bell Air, there's any like, what do you draw
from in your real life. When you think about that
character that you're like, Okay, I can take this from
how I really am and put this into this character.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's a good question. I don't think me and Jackie
are very similar, but I think I can relate to her.
I think everyone can relate to another human being. I
think we're both very strong minded and confident, and we
know what we want. I just think Jackie has had
(20:47):
to go through things that I haven't had to go through,
and the way she survives looks different than me. You know,
I haven't really had a survival mindset growing up. I
was allowed to be a child, but I don't think
Jackie was given that luxury. I think she was always
you know, growing up in South Central with no parents.
It's like you really kill or be killed.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I feel like we're going to see a lot happening
in this season that we don't know about yet, just
based off of these answers.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't think you'll see it. It's crazy, but yeah,
I think, you know, I think she is very mysterious
and people are like, I want to know more about her,
and I think she's just very closed off.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
What is some crazy things that have happened to you
since the show and the success of bel Air.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh, probably Tokyo. I was in Tokyo with my friend
and I was eating at a mall and some girl
came up to me and she's like, can I take
a picture with you? And I was like, you know,
first thing, I'm like, cause I'm black. Y'all gone on
black people here? And then she saw my confusion. She
was like, I watched the drama bel Air, and I said, oh.
(21:53):
I was like, in Tokyo, what do you guys do?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
How some all the world is now ray so much
access that we have to just think about streaming services
weren't always around and they weren't always global the way that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It is now. That's good. Look at you, superstar Tokyo.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I was like, okay, thanks for watching. Now.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Would you tell Jackie to pursue Will or would you say, girl,
leave him alone? If you were to give if that
was your homegirl and you were giving her advice.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
That's a good question. That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
What would you say, go link up a Carlton instead.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Get you? I told him. I was like, you know,
Carlton and Jackie shit since you know, but I would
probably respectfully be like girl, it's time to it's time
to go a different way, right.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
He's playing games.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
He's playing games, and it's like, you don't need you
don't need that, you need safety. You want to feel loved,
you want to feel wanted.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And it's messy with your uncle too.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I mean, but that's my uncle's fault. I don't think
Jackie was messy. I think Jackie tried to handle it
the best way.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
But it is a bad situation to be in the
middle of.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yes, yeah, and put a seventeen year old girl in
that like and with emotions and feelings involved, like it's
gonna get messy. But I don't think it was her fault.
I don't think she has But yeah, I think i'd
be like, friend, I want you to feel wanted, and
he clearly wants someone else, and he might want her.
I think he does still, but it's like you got
(23:20):
to make a decision with both.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It feels like I think both of them fulfill that
certainty for sure. He probably feels, you know, a sense
of connection with Jackie's character, just because of how he
grew up and where she is now and him not
having his father president in his life and being raised
by his aunt and uncle.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, it's like two unlovable characters finding love in each other.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
So yeah, but then maybe Lisa is more stable for him.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I think Will just needs to be single and
figuring himself out.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
But we're gonna see what's bel air.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
We just need to make sure that Jackie's back for
the next season too. That's what really meant. We got
to make sure you hang in there if you've got
to link up with someone else or whatever is gonna
happen everyone, we need to keep it going. But again,
the album that well, the EP is out, we're calling
the EP. But seven songs, that's a long, that's a
nice that's almost an album almost, So that means the
(24:15):
album's coming soon too, hopefully following. Yeah, and when you
are once you put this out, are you planning to
do some live shows, go on tour?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, definitely, planting sees to do live shows and tours
whatever God has in store for me.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Who's been the most amazing person that's reached out to
you musically at this point? Because I see people in
your comments musically that's like, yo, let's collab or have
you reached out to anybody?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Maybe you guys know yeah. I mean there's a feature
on the project. Who's great?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Okay, all right, are.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
We allowed to it's coming out our first Yeah, yeah,
it's a great feature. He's he's he's an amazing, amazing songwriter,
amazing artists. So R and B.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay, can I wait to see what this is all about?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What city? What's it?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Let me stop trying to get San Diego.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Okay, for San Diego, Yeah, born born in San Diego.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
All right, let me let me google Florida, all right, the.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Entire United States of America.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Well, what are the goals for you now? Because you've
been knocking them down? You know, you've been doing your dancing,
you've been doing your choreography, you've been acting, you're singing,
you're writing.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
What is the ultimate for you?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Oh? I don't know. Yeah. I always like the quote,
if you want to make God laugh, tell me your plans, right, So,
I mean I definitely have dreams, but you know, I
think wherever the wind carries me, yeah, whatever makes me
happy in the moment, music's really doing that for me
(26:05):
right now. So I'm really giving my all the music,
whether that be tours or shows and or be a movie.
I would love to do like a musical movie.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Now that's perfect. See now there you go. That would
mix mix everything in together. I think you'll be amazing
at that musical movie. Maybe one of those live you
know how they do the live action. I can see
you doing that. Yeah, okay, well let's put it in
an atmosphere that's out there.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And again, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So much for coming through.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I know we ran into each other and we you know,
didn't have much time and everybody was being pulled in
different directions. But I appreciate you keeping your word and
coming up here for to sit down.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
All right, so we're going to be listening for this EP.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I cannot wait to see who the San Diego, Florida
person collab is on the project.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
But congratulations to you on everything. You've really been killing it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
All right, it's way up
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