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November 25, 2025 18 mins

Derreck B. Johnson & Carolyn Johnson Break Down Community Power, The Black Cultural Zone + More

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
But you're all being waiting for.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
You're tapped in the way up with Angela.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ye, what happens way up to Angela?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yee, yes, it's the countdown to the holiday's mana, you
got your.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I don't actually put up a tree, you know, what
do you do? Then? No decoration?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (00:21):
Are you are used to?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Seriously?

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Lights in this plant that I have.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I like that idea. It's what you already have.

Speaker 6 (00:27):
Plant is just just a plant. It's not even a
real plant, and.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
You put it like a fake plant.

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Crazy, Well, at least you're in the spirit.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
I want to do it though.

Speaker 6 (00:39):
Maybe this year I give me a tree, like something real,
like maybe like a white or red tree.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, white or red?

Speaker 6 (00:45):
Yeah, but I want my tree already put together, like
I don't want to do I want to like already.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know there's people that actually do that. You know
who does that? Jordan could do that for you from
lip service.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Jordan.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, she actually can do decorations. This is coming to
my house anyway. So today we have some special guests
joining us, Derek B. Johnson and Carolyn Johnson. Now Derek B.
Johnson is the owner of Home of Chicken and Waffles
in Oakland, and Carolyn Johnson is the CEO of the
Black Cultural Zone. You know, we're always talking about ownership,

(01:16):
about movements, culture, circulating the dollar within our community. So
that's the conversation we're going to have so important because
right now there's a lot of money circulating and we
need to be intentional about where we are circulating those dollars.
All right, and when we come back, let's shine a
light eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty call
us up.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Let us know who you want to shine a light on.

Speaker 7 (01:37):
It's way up, Sam, turn your lights on, y'all, light
saspreading love to those who are doing greatness.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Shanna light on, shine a light on. It's time to
shine a light on. What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Hiss way up at Angela Ui, I'm here, matos here.
We should go back to school.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
I always wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We can do it, and we should go to an
h BCU and listen.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I'm gonna work some things out, but I also want
to shout out right now, I want to shine a
light on Robert F.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Smith. They have started with Live Nations.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
This HBCU areware Fest, and the point of it is
to eliminate college debt and build generational wealth for HBCU students.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
And so this is now a call to action.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
There's going to be workshops, panel discussions, live music. All
have to start conversations, spark action, and raise real money
to tackle student loan debt. You know black college graduates,
they average nearly fifty three thousand dollars in loans for
their educational endeavors.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
We also know that Robert F.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Smith has done a lot as far as donating money
and paying people's tuition.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Now, Diddy, who do you want to shine a light on?

Speaker 8 (02:47):
I want to try the light out to my man.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
That's not my man, but that's my man.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay, I want to pay.

Speaker 8 (02:51):
A lot on any cubs. He's always helping everybody out
around him, being included. I just got my own car,
but he's been lending me his car. We're like almost
a whole year while I saved up my money to
get my own soul. I just want to make a
shout out to him, thank you so much for helping
me and all that you do.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I like that, and I like that you can acknowledge
like sometimes we take people for granted, but that is
a big deal.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Exactly, yeah, and exactly.

Speaker 9 (03:18):
I mean he's not a.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
Perfect at all, a mess, but he's very heaven.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
So good, so exactly.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
I gotta be honest, I gotta be honest, be honest.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Here a mess, girl, but that's my mess.

Speaker 8 (03:33):
Yeah, that's my mess. But I appreciate every little bit
of it.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
All right, thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
All Right, Well that was Shina Light eight hundred and
two nine fifty one fifty just in case you couldn't
get through. And when we come back, I was talking
to Mano about his holiday decorations or lack thereof.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Yeah, and now you just gave me an idea.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
All right, Well we're going to talk about what we're
doing for the holidays. We also want to hear from you,
so always hit us up at way up with you
or call us up.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Eight hundred nine fifty one fifty is way up.

Speaker 10 (04:04):
No bag, were about to do this one of the
lingos to famous women in radio audio.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
We're talking about angela Ye, you're way up with angela ye.
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Speaker 1 (04:13):
Up as way up at the angela yee. I'm here
with Mano. No, now, Mano, it's the.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Holiday season and I saw a lot of decorations going
up everywhere Thanksgiving, or as we like to call it,
intengenous People's.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Day, Right, but they going up a little too early, though,
what right, Usually the decorations go up after Thanksgiving they
already definate.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, I said that too. I thought that was the thing.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
But I will say, in my family, when we all
get together where they do the grab bag thing where
you have to pick like a secret Santa whatever, it's
good to have like some decorations up because that's when
we do it to get ready for Christmas.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
But you just gave me an idea. Because I don't
usually decorate the great creative. I'm not so much to grinch,
but I'm just like, I don't want to do no
work and all that. But you just gave me an idea.
So now now I'm going to call Jordi, Yay, come
decorate my tree.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Look, Jordi just texted me right when you said that. Okay,
Jordie's from lip Service. I like that because you know,
I had ordered some decorations for Halloween and I got
these tiny pumpkins, and so I've been wanting to order
some more things for Christmas. But now I'm mentally scarred
from that situation because the pumpkins were like the size

(05:24):
of my pinky. So Jordan had actually volunteered to come
and do the decorations for me.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
She can decorate my tree.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, all right, I think she's into that.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Hey, let's go.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
This is so lazy.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
But you know, I think this year, being in a
new house and my family's all coming over for Thanksgiving
or for I like to say, Indigenous.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
People's Day, I would like to say that too.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah you can, and I just want to hear you pronounce.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
It Indigenous people. Okay, got the Engines indigenous.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Earlier you were saying my memory instead of memory.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Listen, you know what I meant right now, Holiday spirit.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I think I'm gonna go red tree.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Okay, thinking back booling with the red tree.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Yeah, you know, put some gifts under there.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Okay, I like it, and I would be at your
house for Thanksgiving. But anyway, for Indigenous People's Day. When
we come back, doctor Cheyenne Bryant was on lip service,
and you know it got a little emotional in the room.
So we have a little bit with her because she
has her book The Mental Detox, and this is a
great time for us to all just have a mental
detox and think about the things in our life that

(06:34):
we do that we want to perhaps improve on.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
All right, it's way up.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Way up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
More now, what's up his way up with Angela Yee
and doctor Cheyenne Bryant was on lip Service and had
the ladies reflecting doing some mental detoxes. She's got that
book out, yes, And one thing that we had to
do was think about one thing reflecting on ourselves that
we don't like that we do. I'm to ask you,
but first here's what the ladies had to say.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I don't like my struggle with vulnerability. It's very hard
for me. I'm also very observant, so it takes me
a minute to see what's going on and like feel
comfortable in certain circumstances. I would say those are my
big two.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
My big thing. I don't like ourself that I don't
know if I'm gonna change.

Speaker 9 (07:21):
Is I like that?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (07:24):
Period?

Speaker 10 (07:24):
I would say, I don't.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Like being out of my comfort zone.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
All right?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well, that lift Service is out later today with doctor
Cheyenne Briant. And when Mana, when I come back, you know,
I got to ask you mayno, what is something that
you do that you don't like?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Just one thing though?

Speaker 5 (07:38):
One thing?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, you w you're talking about when we come back.
I was only one thing, all right.

Speaker 7 (07:42):
It's way up, way up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
More now what's up?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
His way up at Angela Yee And coming out of
discussing with doctor Cheyenne Brian her whole mental detox, I'm asking, mano,
what is something that you do that you don't like?

Speaker 6 (07:59):
One of the things that I I don't like is
that sometimes I have the knack of starting something and
not finishing it.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Okay, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I don't get that from you.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah, because I'm just so proactive with a lot of
different things. But sometimes I start things and don't finish it.
That's something that I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like, Okay.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Like getting married, Like that's something you started and you
were supposed to get married like months ago.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Exactly that it should have been married. It should have
been divorced by now.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You want me to tell you some things about yourself
that you don't like?

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Nope, okay, nope, nope, nope. I want you stay far
away from my business. I could have been divorced already.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Oh, why would you want that?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Because you know what's interesting? I look at you the opposite.
I feel like, when you want to do something, you
get obsessive about it.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Sometimes when I'm doing too many different things at the
same time, it takes away from something else.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
All right.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, one thing I would say about myself that I
do that I don't like is that I tend to
say yes to a lot of things that I know
I don't want to do.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
So do you. It's a slight people pleaser.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, I have good intentions, but sometimes that's not the
best for me personally. Like I'm always trying to be
like I want to do it in my head it
sounds good, and then I'm like, this is impossible for
me to.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Do all this.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, so I have to get better at like balancing
things and you know, having some me time and not
always trying to like accommodate everybody. All right, Well, listen,
you guys can also weigh in. We want to hear
from you. But it's a new year on the way,
and so I know we're all thinking about ways. Everybody's
like new Year, knew me? All right, it's way up
when we come back. We got the way up mixed

(09:31):
for you. At the top of the hour plus, we
got Derek B. Johnson alongside Carolyn Johnson joining us. He
is the owner of Home of Chicken and Waffles and
she is the CEO of the Black Cultural Zone that
is in Oakland, and they're talking about circulating the dollar
within our community. It's the time of the year where man, no,
if you're going to get some decorations, why.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Don't you get it from a black owned business.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Again, I thought I was getting decorated from.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
A black woman.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
We have my melanin wrapping paper here. I'm gonna give
you a roll of wrapping paper. You're gonna love this.
It's way up.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
One of the most famous women in radio vidio. We're
talking about Angela Ye. You're way up with angela Ye.
Please believe that what's up.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Is way up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I am so excited because this is like a great
collaboration and I love working with people who truly like, respect, admire, appreciate.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Derek B.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Johnson is here owner of Home of Ticket and Waffles,
and Carolyn Johnson is also here to CEO of Black
Cultural Zone.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Thank you both for joining me today.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Pleasure to be here.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Thank you for having us. Derek B.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Johnson is like a legend in his own right for
people that know him and know what you represent.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Just give a little background history on who you are.

Speaker 10 (10:38):
Definitely from Oakland and really passionate about representing everything like
Easter Racey. I'm from everything black and others, but i
want to make sure that we take care of ourselves
and really circulate the dollar.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
In our community.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Carolyn Johnson talk to us about Black Cultural Zone and
how that was born.

Speaker 11 (10:55):
So I'm from Oakland, so born and raised New Stokland,
and the Black Cultural Zone was born with our artists
who were trying to figure out how do they stop
the gentrification and displacement of black people in Oakland. There
was a big transportation thing coming and they knew it
would be negative, and they said, we want a Black
Cultural Zone.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
You know, Oakland was fifty one percent black. Now we're
projected to be ten percent by twenty forty.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
We're we're disrupting that.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
She is disrupting that.

Speaker 11 (11:21):
So the Black Culture Zone is a place, it's a collaboration,
it's a CDC. And so we are acquiring properties actively
because if we don't own their properties we'll be like
tumbleweed forever being moved. So our goal is to control
the land and a land trust and make sure we
take care of our people.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Right now, Derek B.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Johnson, the owner of Home and Chicken and Waffles, and
Carolyn Johnson, the CEO of the Black Cultural Zone, are here.
Is there a plan to replicate this in other places
we've been touring.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, this is happening in Brooklyn, this happened in
New Orleans.

Speaker 11 (11:48):
It's happening in all of the cities that are port cities,
are places where there was redlining, same metaphor, it has
been happening.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
So Oakland can't be alone.

Speaker 11 (11:55):
We have to connect across the country. And I think
people look to open around the world because the home
of the Black Panther Party, which we are distinded. So
we have to lead, then we have to share. So
that's what we're trying to do, is make sure we
connect across the country.

Speaker 10 (12:08):
Doctor CJ has me on how black are you today?

Speaker 11 (12:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Seriously?

Speaker 10 (12:11):
So for example, my hoodie comes from my five brother
k Side Fraturnity Incorporated. Shout out to the nupes. My
pants are a black designer. Now my jewelry and stuff's
not so we're gonna work on that. But how black
are you today? And if you can say you're thirty
percent black with what you're wearing, then that can transcend over.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yes, so it makes you, It makes you makes you think.

Speaker 10 (12:30):
If you think that way, then you're starting to circulate
that dollar. And if it's not a dollar, you can
circulate your network if you need a connection to something
like those of us.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
That have a network.

Speaker 10 (12:41):
And no people stop gatekeeping and I don't need to monetize.
If you need to meet somebody, if I know them,
you know we have to. That's how we build. You
are participating in the change. So you know, what do
you say all the time? We are who we've been
waiting before. Yes, we are, we are who we've been
waiting for. Nobody's gonna come save us. We have to

(13:03):
save ourselves.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
That sounds like a shirt all right, Well, thank you
so much for joining us today, you guys, make sure
you check it all out the Black Cultural Zone, the Homer,
Chicken and Waffles, Coffee Uplifts people. You see us all
here in the Trifecta. What's the full interview on my
YouTube channel?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
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Speaker 3 (13:19):
And when we come back, we have asked Yee eight
hundred two nine two fifty one fifty call us up.
Me and Mano got your back.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
We're here to help. It's way up.

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Speaker 1 (13:36):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (13:36):
His way up with Angela Yee, And it's time for
ask ye eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty.
And today I'm with the award winning advice giving new
Lay and.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
We have somebody who wants to remain anonymous. What's your question?

Speaker 12 (13:50):
So I had a co worker work at emergency cyrces
okay nine one one literally right, she literally falls asleep
more on the phone with callers.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
What crazy?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh that's awful.

Speaker 9 (14:04):
I do not know what to do to here.

Speaker 12 (14:07):
I have the coworker because of the faiths the coool,
I talk to the manager everything. I don't not know
what to do to have this girl and she is
kind of like very overweight, so I know that's like
probably part of the issue, and not try to talk
to her about it, but like in a nice way.

Speaker 9 (14:24):
But I don't know what to do.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
What's that disease where people fall asleep? It's narcoleptic.

Speaker 12 (14:30):
Yeah, yeah, I thought that's true.

Speaker 9 (14:32):
But it's like I.

Speaker 12 (14:33):
Thought taking it to the manager was gonna do something.
The manager literally just hit her home for a day.
When she sleeps, the other people in the room have
to pick up her work.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, and then also she falls to sleep on a car.
It could be a matter of life or death.

Speaker 12 (14:45):
It usually is because there's nine one one.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Is there anybody above the manager who you can talk to, Yeah,
there is. Before you do that, just make sure it's
a documents is that you went to the manager, and
you try to handle it that way and follow protocol.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
But this does feel like an alarming thing.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
So if you have to just like get a little
you know, evidence in case it comes.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Up, almost, yes, do it to you.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
But it's okay if you fall asleep here man, it's
not like, yeah, nobody's life is in danger. But I
do understand that that's concerning not even just the work
that you'll have to pick up, but also because damn
like somebody could be on the phone like an he's
about to do and she's sleep right.

Speaker 12 (15:28):
Yeah, So I think, yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
You did what you could do as long as you
can show like I did, try to talk to the
manager and nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
This is concerning you know.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
You just gotta do that, but also make sure you
could back up what you say because people will deny stuff.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh yeah, I got to prove it looks like you
got to snitch.

Speaker 9 (15:49):
It's okay.

Speaker 12 (15:49):
I don't know people's citizens.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Thank you, yes, all right, thank you for calling. Good luck?

Speaker 12 (15:55):
All right, thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
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fifty one fifty couldn't get through. Leave a message and
we got you. And when we come back, man, no,
we got the last word. You got to get your
decorations together.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's way up.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Take up the phone to get your voice heard. What
the words? The last word? On Way up with Angela?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yee? What's up as way up? But Angela yee. I'm
here with my guy Maino. Right, you ready for last word?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
I'm ready for holidays?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I know you know I never celebrate holidays on the
actual holiday.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
My family doesn't do that. They don't like traffic.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, so Saturday, everyone's coming over. Yeah, but this this
week I'm actually not going to travel. I'll be in
New York and that is my treat to myself. So
you know, did this turkey drive. We're actually getting ready
for a toy drive. The toy drive is going to
be December twentieth, so that's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
The one last year was amazing.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
It'sn't your hood, but anyway, you guys, this is your show.
Oh and also thank you again.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
To Derek B. Johnson and Carolyn Johnson for joining us to.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Day as we're getting ready for spending money. That's what
the holidays also is. We know this is something that's
highly commercialized. Let's think about where we're spending our money
and supporting each other and supporting our communities.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
All right, again, this is your show, so you have
the last word.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
My name is Hareka McConnell. I would like to shine
a light on my show for all the community service
that I volunteer for. At this present time, I'm about
to go and do community service for a Thanksgiving brunch
in North New Jersey. I would like to shine a
light on my show. Thank you.

Speaker 9 (17:38):
Shout out to my amazing husband for the hours he
works this Matt will literally work fourteen to sixteen hours,
seven days a week, so that his project can get
done really fast, and he can take a month or
two off to be with the children and I. He
is a major provider and I'm so grateful to God
for him. So shout out to you, mister Jones Brandon.

(17:59):
You no one can replace you. And I'm so grateful
that I have children with you because I know they
will always be taken care of.

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