November 19, 2024 • 44 mins
New York Times bestselling author, HBO Writer, and University of Baltimore professor Dwight "D" Watkins joins us. We also have Elijah Johnson, a Mindless Behavior member, Young Simba on Broadway's Lion King, and is now playing Michael Jackson in MJ The Musical.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are now angel what I call ye?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
His way up with angela yee happy? What is it Tuesday? Man?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I'm so excited because I have somebody who is, to
me very legendary. Dee Watkins is here today.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
He does this for a living. So don't let him.
Don't let him fool you. But you know, you can
watch a lot of his interviews on Salon, but also
his books that he's written, Black Boy Smile, which I love.
The first one I read, I think was We Speak
for Ourselves, which I think is a really important book.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And I know you had a lot to say as.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
We were getting ready for the election and why we
should vote. Also, you did the Wire book because you're
you're also from Baltimore, but you know The Wire is
a classic.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
That was that was a dream come true because it
was like a full circle moment because I wasn't a
writer when The Wire actually aired. The fact that they
will come to me and ask me to capture these
stories and talk to these people and reimagine what this
looks like twenty years from now was like.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
A dream coming.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
That was a dream come true.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, all right, well we're going to get all into
your business today any real Carmelo Anthony's memoir. I just
want to point that out to But we have a
special guest joining us later, Elijah Johnson.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He starts in MJ.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
The musical umbera way and you also know him by
the way he was in mindless behavior back in the day.
All right, well, let's get this show started with some love,
with some positivity because we need it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty. Call us up.
We are gonna shine a light. It's way up.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Turn your lights on.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
Y'all's breading love to those who are doing greatness.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Light, shine a light on. It's time to shine a
light on them.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's way up.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
At Angela, yee, I'm here, my guy d Whykin's is
guest hosting today. Pleasure and honor to have you here,
pleasures all mine. All right, well, let's shine a light today.
Let's shine a light on Angie Martinez because it happens
to be Angie Martinez Day. She was given that day
by the former mayor Bill de Blasio. And of course
we know Angie Martinez is a best selling author of
My Voice, but she also is making her directorial debut
(02:15):
with the documentary on DJ Clark Kent. He is definitely
God's favorite DJ. But in addition to that, she just
has been an icon in this radio business and outside
of it. Her podcast in real life is amazing, the
way that she's able to talk to people with empathy
and also really cares about human beings, and that's a
rare thing, you know, in this day and age.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
You know, Angie, Yeah, I'm a big fan, A huge fan.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
All right, Well, shout out to Angie Martinez. We shine
a light on you today on Angie Martinez Day. Now,
who do you guys want to spread some love to?
Who do you want to shine a light on? Eight
hundred and two nine two fifty one fifty Randy, who
do you want to shine a light on?
Speaker 8 (02:53):
I would like to shine the light on doctor Friedo
and her birthday is tomorrow. She'd give free medical evidence
based advice on Mondays on her youth Fool channels live.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Okay, what's her YouTube channel at.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
Doctor Frida b R say l r I bstmata A
and I love you so.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Thank you you used doctor Frieda for some free advice.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh yeah, all right, we're good.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I appreciate you for Colling. We always need to turn
to the experts when we need some help. Don't try
to diagnose yourself. All right, thank you for calling.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Oh yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
That was Shina Light eight hundred and two ninety two
fifty one fifty. And when we come back, we have
your ye t. Let's talk about ty Reese. He is
not playing when it comes to child support payments. Will
tell you what he had to say and how against
it he is.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It's way up.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, it's like the talk like a Angela Jean like
they Angela Jean Man.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
She's spilling it all. This is yet well.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's way up with Angela yee. And I'm here with
my guest. So it's James Beard. Award winning author d
Watkins like. But let's get into some ut so. Celebrity
food critic Keith Lee did a review of this restaurant
in Seattle and Bellevue, Washington, Fob Sushi Bar. They are
now closed until further notice, but he did feel like
(04:19):
he had a responsibility to tell the truth about what
happened there.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Here's what he said, a thousand percent transparency.
Speaker 9 (04:25):
I didn't see anything until somebody pointed out I can't
confirm it or not what it was, but I can't confirm.
I am Okay. Only usion I'm making this video is
because I just saw a video of somebody who went
the day after us and how they hospitalized. And I've
already said a thousand times I don't believe in tearing
out any business, but at the same time, people's health
are on inline. I absolutely think there's accountability that should
be taken and it's something that you can learn from me.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Wow, it's the scariest thing is that he said he
can't confirm what denial what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, the restaurant did say they were grateful for him
for stopping by one of its locations, and it does
uphole requirements from the FDA's Fish and Fisheries Products Hazards
and Controls Guidance. They said, regarding the video, the movement
observed and the fish may result from natural elasticity or
the pressure of chopsticks when applied to its structure. We
want to assure our customers that this is not indicative
(05:16):
of warms or any health concerns. They also had a
form confirming the food of one of its suppliers was
processed under hazard analysis, critical control points. So they said
they're going to be conducting an investigation to address the
situation and take all necessary measures to prevent it from happening.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Again, I mean, that's a good response, that's a great response.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
All you can do investigation, you know, get into.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But hey, all right, but again, I think all you
can do is be transparent.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm glad that they shut down.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
They're going to address these safety concerns and somebody to
get hospitalized, all right, Tyrese, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
He was on social media. He went on his live
and he.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Basically was setting the record straight on his stance about
not giving up the money that he has for child support.
I mean, child support is also a very uh how
would you say? What would you say about child support?
Like it's a it's a flawed system, because it's hard
to have something that I think can account for everybody.
(06:21):
You know, it's like a system that a lot of
people feel like it's unfair. Mothers sometimes feel that way
and fathers sometimes feel that way.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, I would just pay it, and I would just
pay it.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I will agree, But he has no intentions on on
doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Here's what he said, baby mama.
Speaker 10 (06:37):
Number one and two. If you ain't learned already, I
ain't giving you. Like I fought to earn his life,
I'm gonna fight to keep it. I'm gonna shoot, stab,
and kill over mine. I'm gonna protect this bottom line
at all costs.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He also did vow that he would provide for his kids,
and he said the love that a father can have
for his children can't quite be explained. Whatever the outcome
is today, I am and will forever be their father.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But this isn't going to end.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Well, yeah, it's scary, you know because now the kids
are going to be able to dig up these wars.
And that's the thing, right, Like you don't want your
kid to be in the sixth grade and someone hands
the phone and say, look, your daddy didn't even want
to paid. You know what I'm saying, So you can
be cruel. Yeah, kids, Oh, kids are super cruel. So
it's like, how do you how do you silence it?
(07:25):
How do you silence it?
Speaker 7 (07:26):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Sometimes you spend more money fighting these things in court
and then also mentally going through the anguish. That's because
owing money, money finance finances are a huge reason for
people to have like all kinds of depression, anxiety, having
to think about it all the time. Sometimes it's just
worth it to be like, what did the courts say?
You can fight that out in court, Maybe you can
get it lowered later on, you can revisit that, but
(07:48):
maybe just do what you owe so you don't end
up having to go to jail. Because I don't know that,
especially doing these lives, that the courts look favorably on
things like this.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I will argue that it's easier to make more money
than it is to have a puppy fight.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
It is literally easier to.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Make more money, and he has the ability to do.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
That, but that due to super talented. He can act,
he can sing, he's he could do comedy. The dude's
super He's one of the most talented people I ever
met in my life.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I interviewed him recently.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
He slung in the hallway for like fifteen minutes, and like,
you know, people were like they were like thankful, Like yo,
I cannot believe.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, he made us cry on lip service, you know,
talking about everybody in the room was relating to him.
So you're right about that. That's great advice. All right,
well that is your Yet when we come back, we
have about last night. I want to hear what you're
doing here in New York. So we're going to discuss
what you did last night. I'll talk about what I
did because I was filming all night last night filip Service.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's way up, so about.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Last night he went down.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's the way you put angela. Yee, I'm here. My
guy d Watkins is guest hosting today.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I'm happy to be in the building.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, and watch all his interviews on Salon. You do
amazing work on there.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What did you do last night?
Speaker 11 (08:59):
Though?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Because you're in New York?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
So I have a I have a cool friend named
Randy Winston.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
We used to run the Center for Fiction, but now
he's with a company called The Blacklist and then working
really hard to turn black books into television and film.
Everyone in the industry knows it's extremely hard to get
a to get a show or a film.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
The maid right now.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I had a project the HBO paid me to write
and work on for like three years, and then they're like, well,
I don't know if we want to go in that
direction and tell this type of story at this particular time.
So it's like, you know, these are these up and
you know, nothing against the network, but these are strong
black stories that we wanted to the world, and they
want to help these stories find a home.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So it's it's cool, it's cool.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Oh, it makes perfect sense to me. You know how
many people I've had on this show, and I'm like, man,
this book would be great if it was developed as
a movie, but it's not easy to do. Even the
other day, I was talking to Sisters Soldier and the
Coldest went to Ever that has been made into a movie,
and you know, she was explaining to me all of
the roadblocks that she had and trying to get something
like that done.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
That's just so long because Jada was supposed to play
Winter right back in the day.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, she had the rights to it, okay and whatever.
I'll talk about, Yeah it didn't happen. But I feel like,
how did that not happen? That to me is an automatic,
like this is going to be a well it has
to be done right though, But that book to this
day is still like a staple for all of us.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Like change my life. Like I would not be a
writer without the Colts whenever. I would literally not write
without that book. So you know, shout out to sister Soldier.
We still need to make that.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, No, seriously, there's so many stories that need to
be told, and it's like even to get a book
done too is also not easy for black authors because
a lot of times they look at well, I think
sometimes they discount the power of our stories and they
look at numbers and they think, for some reason, this
doesn't bring in the numbers that they want. But then
we prove them wrong all the time, all the time.
(10:58):
Look at what Tyler Perry's doing on Netflix. We've been
talking about that, having like number one movies, number one shows,
and people still are criticizing everything that he's doing.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Numbers don't lie.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
All right, Well, thank you for that. That's really interesting
for everybody listening. I know y'all care about getting making
sure that our stories are told because either you're telling them,
you're watching them, you're supporting them, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We need them, especially now.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But when me come back, d Watkins, I want people
to hear more about what it is that you do.
All right, because you talked about HBO, and I know
you did we own this city you were a writer
on that, and like we said earlier, you did the
Wire book also, which is amazing from you being.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
A kid from Baltimore. I said Baltimore earlier.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
He was like, you got it right now for Baltimore.
We gotta let it roll off Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But we'll talk.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
We'll talk more about what you have going on, because
another one of your passions is sports, in particular basketball,
and so I just want to hear some more of
your journey and things you've been working on.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
All right, cool, all right, it's way up, no beg.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We about to do this.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
One of the memos to famous women in radio vidio women,
we're talking about Angelae.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
He you're way up with it, Angela. Please believe that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
All right, this way up with Angela.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Ye, I'm here with my guest co host d Watkins,
and we're going to talk to you a bit this
morning throughout the show, just because I want to make
sure people are super familiar with things that you've done
and worked on.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I met you as an author, right, he's just not
in his head.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, but one of my favorite books that you wrote
was We Speak for Ourselves, and that's basically can you
explain to people why you titled it that and what
that book is about.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, you know. The funny thing about that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Book is that's so relevant today right now and the
publishing industry.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
The guy who acquired the book named Todd. Shout out
to Todd had left a Tria before the book was published,
so I had to work with a new editor, and
a new editor did not necessarily agree with the premise
of the book, so it hurt the book promotion wise,
even though the book ended up being a great success.
(12:55):
The book is about how you should really, really really
be careful when advocating for oppressed groups if you do
not have contact with those groups, right, how can I say,
you know, these people matter, and I'm a match for
these people, and I'm a fight for these people.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
But when I see these people in real life across
the street, I run away. I don't go into their neighborhoods.
I don't go into their schools, I don't go to
their youth programs. I literally see them and go to
the opposite way. But when it's time to get a
check to advocate, I show up. So yeah, we speak
for ourselves. It was a fun book to write.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It's interesting in this day and age too, because I
feel like during this election, certain people were like propped
up and you're like, this person is not speaking for
my experience of for how I feel, but sometimes media
elects to painted like this person is representative of this community. Well,
how did that happen? That person is not even part
of this community.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
And it's it's a it's a it's an easy fix.
You know, I'm from East Baltimore. I might say that
thirty times today people from my neighborhood. We can, we can,
we can tell you what we want, what we demand
from a leader, what we want from an organization that
wants to do business with us.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
We can articulate it very clearly.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
We don't need somebody from whatever social media website to
come articulate our struggles for us.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
We can tell you this is.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
What we want, all right. And now I want to
get to the sports part of it.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Because you did write Carmelo Anthony's memoir, write someone's memoir
like Carmelo, how was that for you to be able
to get into his world? And because Carmelo is definitely
not the type of person that really just trusts anybody either.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
You know, the funny thing about Carmelo is that Carmelo
can write, and you know Camelo Carmelo is a great writer,
so you know, and he's he's he's so good at
just recalling memories from his childhood. So he made the
job super easy for me and more of like a collaboration.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
And I think.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I think the trust was there just because, like we
literally with two guys. And even though he was born
in Brooklyn, he came to Baltimore when he was eight
years old, and he knows what it's like to be
just in the middle of super poverty.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
That's the perfect pairing. You guys too.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
All the way we were working we're writing the film
together right now. Oh, we're working on We're working on
a film right now.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I went to his crib maybe like a month ago,
and we just set on the porch for like hours,
picking apart like a Baltimore story we want to tell
because you know him and a sign he shout out
to a SONI they're big in the film and they
want to make that mark in the film world, and
I'm excited to get in while I'm fitting with that.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And Kayane did they announced he's going to Syracuse. That
was a big deal.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
He's going to carry a torch.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Kanye.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Kanye, we trust.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And we have more to talk about because we didn't
even get to d Wade, but we'll talk about that.
We have time to do that a little later. But
I cannot wait to hear what this process has been
like for you for the past year working with d Wade.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
When we come back, we have Yo Yuti.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
We'll talk about Jay Cole and he is discussing Kanye
West changing his life and influencing his music.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's the way up here. Some of my girl Saizza
with shirts.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Sure she's about to blow the lid ab off this,
but let's get it. Oh yeah, Angelus feeling that yee te.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Come and get the tea.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's way up with Angela. Yee. I'm here. My guy
d Watkins is here and you ready for some yet?
Are you a jakof fan?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Absolutely?
Speaker 12 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I'm looking forward to his whole audio series that he's doing.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
But on his new audio series Inevitable, he talked about
Kanye West and how Kanye West influenced him greatly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 13 (16:29):
I was an aggressive battle rapper right and I was
a storyteller of like fantasy but my life was actually regular.
I didn't sell no drugs, you know what I mean,
Like like that my favor it was nothing like my
favorite rappers, you know what I mean. Like the lifestyle
portion was kind of like I didn't get it. I
don't know how to talk about my life. And then
Kanye West happened and that changed my life.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Okay, but it felt like they didn't get along after that,
like there was some you know, shots throne. I think
both ways Kanye, I think very in particular, fired de
sided J Cole and his remix of like that he said,
play J Cole, get the something dry. You know what
I'm saying, Yeah, you know. And J Cole they said
(17:12):
took stabs at him on Middle Child and things like that.
So I don't know, you know, the situation is the.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Way he did the way he did, the way J
Cole articulated his frustrations with Kanye, it kind of came
from respect, you could tell.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Because Kanye.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Kanye represented a paradigm shift in rap music, like you're right,
Like he came through with his Polo shirts and his
Louis Vitan backpacks and his high fashion when everybody was
in big jeans and butters and automatic weapons.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
He gave voice to a lot of people. So yeah,
I hope, I hope thinking mind that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, false profits. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And that's the song in particular right that we talk
about absolutely all right now. Ja Co also put out
his debut mixtape to come up on streaming services, so
he surprised people with the release of that, and that
was back in May of two thousand and seven. It's
never been on streaming services until today. So there's seventeen
tracks in total. So we all know the song Dollar
(18:14):
in a Dream that's on their school day simba. So
people are very excited about this and for the youngins
who maybe never heard it, now's your opportunity, all right.
Genie Mai is accusing Jezi of harassment after his oppressive
quote unquote oppressive subpoena of her bank records. Now she's
asking a judge to quash his secret subpoena of her
(18:36):
City National Bank accounts, and she said he requested details
on her personal and business accounts, as well as deposit
and withdrawal slips before November first. She said it is oppressive, unreasonable,
and not calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible
evidence and are requested for the purposes of annoyance, embarrassment,
and oppression. So they did settle their divorce back in June,
(18:56):
but she did accuse him of being in contempt of
their agreement and a new fie. This has been such
a contentious divorce. Like they have a beautiful daughter out
of it, but just everything I feel like surrounding China
to get out of this marriage has been a lot.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Oh, it's a lot m h.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And you know, her lawyer said, given jesus propensity for
failing to pay his financial obligations, both in his prior
unrelated custody case and based on a number of lawsuits
that have been filed against him by his former employees
and associates regarding non payment of debts, it is clear
that Jesu's motive in issuing said subpoena was for no
other purpose than to harass and intimidate Miss May.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
They tried to embarrass him with that one. The whole
thing is petty, all right.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Ryan Garcia is targeting a Jake Paul fight, and he
has another fight that's coming up December thirtieth, Is that right?
Is that what his fight is, but it's he's currently
has a one year suspension. Yeah, it's December thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
This is his next fight.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
He's fighting a Japanese kickboxer rukaya Onpo. And then he
said Jake Paul he wants to fight him in twenty
twenty five. That probably will make them money. Yeah, people
will see that.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I wish we didn't have to call it boxing. I
think we should just put this. We should start like
something brand new. Yeah, specially it's a spectacle.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
All right, well that is your ut when we come back,
we have under the radar. These are the stories that
are not necessarily in the headlines. They're flying under the radar,
but we definitely want to make sure you know about him,
be informed.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's way up this in the news that relates to you.
These stories are flying under the radar.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
All right, it's way yup with Angela Yee.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm here with my guest co host Dee Watkins today exciting. Now,
these are the under the radar stories that we definitely
know you need to hear about, even if you haven't.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, he is going to propose
the next steps in Donald Trump's new York hush money
case today after these unprecedented circumstances, following his conviction on
(20:53):
thirty four felon accounts earlier this year. So his sentencing
is tentatively scheduled for November twenty six, but they're trying
to get this case dismissed, of course, ahead of Donald
Trump's inauguration, so we'll see what's going to happen. Trump's
lawyers also argued for a dismissal by citing the Presidential
Transition Act of nineteen sixty three, which says that government
(21:14):
officers have to take lawful steps to avoid or minimize
disruptions to the presidential transition.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So that's part of how.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Convenient your head, How convenient, that's how that works.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So listen, Alvin Brad, you know what to do. You
know another thing. And we talked about this off the air.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
We were talking about the housing crisis that we're having
here and Donald Trump's plan of mass, mass deportation, how
that's going to affect homes being built.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Right a house in Baltimore that would cost four hundred
thousand dollars, which would probably be three million dollars in
New York. But a four hundred thousand dollars home for
a family would cost two million dollars if you expect
me to build it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know, I was reading this article on CNN that's
just about that, right.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
They're trying to argue that we need more housing because
of these undocumented immigrants, but they said an influx of
what they're saying is an influx of immigrants document or
not as to housing demand, potentially increasing competition for homes.
But the truth to the matter is, at least according
to the National Association of Homebuilders, at least one point
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five million homes need to be built to meet growing demand.
There's a need for more construction workers as well. Right now,
there's about two hundred and eighty two thousand construction jobs
open as of September, and according to the CEO of NHB,
they said, immigrant labor is really important for our ability
to continue to build homes affordably. Similar to what you said,
d Watkins, anything that would have an impact on the
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labor supply, and in this case, the immigrant labor supply
does give us concern about our ability to meet the
housing needs of the country.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
We're having it like there's a shortage right now in
the workforce in general.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
People don't want to be they don't want to be firefighters,
they don't want it to go to college like people
are seeing it, like you know, the gig economy has
already shifted how America works. Now you're gonna just delete
the workforce, like our economy will shattered. This would be
like one of the biggest nightmares ever.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
The construction industry already has a hard time finding workers,
they said. Surveyed at the end of last year, homebuilders
ranked the skilled labor shortage as the top challenge they
faced in twenty twenty three and the top expected challenge
for twenty twenty four. It's a struggle to find legal
employees to fill open roles at his firms. And they
do have to rely on immigrant labor, but they need
legal labor otherwise. You know, this shortage is gonna get
(23:38):
worse and worse, So just anticipate that, all right.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
That is your under the radar stories.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
We have the way It Mixed at the top of
the hour, plus the star of MJ the musical Oh Brahway,
Elijah Johnson is going to be joining us. It's way up,
they saysof in the rooms from industry shade.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
To all of gossip out sad man Angelus spilling that eat.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
All right, this way up with Angela Yee. I'm here
with my guest co host de Watkins today, ready to
get into.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
This et om here all right.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Diddy's sons have issued a cease and desist over this
Camporter book. Christen and Quincy Combs fired off this letter
to Courtney Burgess and his attorney Ariel Mitchell over the
Kimporter Tell It All, a book that is sold online
under the pseudonym of Jamal Millwood. They said they became
the rightful heirs and owners of her intellectual property following
her death in November twenty eighteen, and if this is
(24:30):
a real thing, a real diary, then that should belong
to them.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
They said.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Burgess himself did a bunch of interviews to promote the book,
but it was originally an unedited copy of her diary memoir,
and he's alleging to have a flash drive from people
who were close to Kim and printed it without any
edits to produce the book. They're shooting down that narrative.
They're saying the whole flash drive tale is false and
misleads the public. But if it were true, that flash
drive would belong to them.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
It belongs to the kids. Let that woman rest in peace.
You know, she's not here. She can't defend herself. Maybe
she wanted it out, maybe she didn't. But let her
rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Right, Yeah, maybe it's real. Maybe we don't even know.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
But they said there's you have five days to shut
down the online sale of the book, stopped doing interviews
making these false claims, turn over any of her possessions
that he claims to have, and they want an accounting
of any money that he's already made off the book.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
In other words, lawsuit on the way.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Absolutely all right, Now, if you guys recall Quincy and
Christian Colmes. Diddy's sons also did get into a little
physical altercation with ray J that Chris Brown broke up.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, ray J is now saying that they have squashed everything.
Here's what he said.
Speaker 14 (25:39):
As far as Diddy's sons, Yeah, it's been a lot,
and I think at this point, you know, we had
to all sit down and we had to really figure
out what this looks like and what we should do
moving forward.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And so we've worked out our differences.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
All right, Well, that's good ray J worked out his
differences with Justin Christian and Quincy. You know, there is
another person now speaking about Diddy. Now this is a
very wild claim, but his former bodyguard is saying that
he sacrificed I guess a bird in order to get
(26:17):
out of the nineteen ninety nine nightclub shooting. He said
he had his driver take him to meet a man
who had been waiting for him at the park, and
then I guess when Puff got close to the guy,
he dropped down to his knees. This is according to
Rolling Stone. He said, next thing I see is this
smoke just going back and forth around Puff. I guess
it was sage or something like that. And then he
alleges that the man this is Gene Deal, that the
(26:40):
man holding a Bible began praying and laying his hands
on Diddy. And then he said he instructed him to
grab a white bird from the cage he had bought
and then threw it up in the air and the
bird just fell to the ground like it was a brick.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And he said the bird didn't move, it just died.
And then did he moved away from there? Quick?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Wow, WHOA, Now I have a lot of friends that
like in the system, been through the system.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
We talk about this all of the time. And just
like the bird defense is something new.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I never heard of such a thing.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Now, you know, now we know?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
All right? Now lip Service. It's a Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
So the newest episode of lip Service is out today
and Derek Mlano and Black China are on the latest episode.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You know, they are engaged.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
There are they're gonna be on love and hip Hop together,
and so one thing that they talked about the whole
episode is basically like they are in love love and
when I saw you, Black China got so emotional just
talking about their whole relationship, how they got to where
they are. Derek Mlinald talks a lot about how initially
he didn't even want to date her because he didn't
want to mix business with pleasure.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
He's a music producer.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And so here's Black China and Derek Mlinald talking about
who said I love you first?
Speaker 14 (27:51):
Maybe me?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I think it might have been you.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
It's happening.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
She said I love you, but you both I said
love at first sight.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Ye said.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
At first and then that's that is all right?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So one year of dating and look now they're engaged. Now,
another thing that they talked about, this always comes up.
Prenup are not And here's what they said.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I'm not against it.
Speaker 15 (28:22):
I'm not opposed to it, but I mean because she
has a lot of stuff already that's hers. I have
my stuff that's mine. You know what I'm saying. But
I'm not one of those people like, oh, you need
to do one.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But it's a contract, and you guys are business people,
Well that's it.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
It won't be a prenup.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying because I feel like it's
one of those things we have.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
We're not getting divorced.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Okay, I ain't gonna tell nobody how to conduct their business.
But yes, So you can watch that full episode at
six pm. All right, six pm. That will be out
on my YouTube channel, but it's also available the audio
on iHeart Network. All Right, when we come back, Dee Watkins,
we are going to talk to you some more about
what you have going on. Earlier, we talked about this
(29:07):
whole process of Carmelo Anthony's book. We talked about everything
that you have going on, even and I told you
about one of my favorite books that you did. We
speak for ourselves black Boys smile.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You also have that.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
But I want to talk about this new thing, this
new thing that you're embarking on. You were with d
Wade for the past year, so we're going to get
some little spoilers about that when we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's way up, ye yee, is what you all being
waiting for.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You're tapped in the way up with Angela yee.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yes, this way up with Angela Yee. I'm here with
my guest co host, Dee Watkins.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I hate the fact that we just in ye t
told this Diddy story about the bird and the bird
and then we ordered popeye'es.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
What is wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
All right?
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Well?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Anyway, I know, well do you.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Walk ins here by the way? Editor at large at Salon,
is that still your title there? I just want to
make sure I have that right absolutely, Okay, Same and
has done some amazing interviews. I was just talking about
your interview with you that you did with Andre Day
and you also interviewed Tyrese recently. But you do amazing
work and as an author, as a writer for television shows,
(30:17):
as somebody who helps people write their memoirs as well.
You just spent a lot of time with d Wade,
Now tell us what's happening with that.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
So this is an article that I've been working on
a profile for a little over a year. And you know,
one thing about about athletes, especially you know, ones that
are public facing like way.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You know, we look at the business, we look at
the sports, we look at what.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Is put out through the internet, social media and all
of that, but we don't really get an opportunity to
go deeper to see the family man, to see the
person who is extremely grateful for what they accomplished, to
see a person so confident bring up stories where they
weren't always as confident, you know, And it was you know,
(31:08):
the story comes out at the top of next year.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
But what I will say is that it's some it's
some beautiful scenes in that article.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
We went back to his childhood home on fifty Knife
and Perry in Chicago, and he jumped out the truck
like a kid, you know, because he hasn't he hasn't
been in that neighborhood in a long time. So it
was like emotional and nostalgic for him. And then I
got a chance to see the statue.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That everybody was talking about.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Everybody was talking about a couple of times before it
was done, so I got a chance to to just
capture that whole process, which is also, you know, a
story within itself.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I do most people because I don't hear of you're
doing this article. It's a whole profile. This feels like
more than an article.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I feel like it's gonna be transformative for how people
look at athlete and how people look at black men
and our ability to be vulnerable to fail. I think
still two and twenty four. You know, a lot of
(32:16):
times it's black people we arrived of the ability to feel.
You know, people think we're so strong, we're so resilient,
we can just push through. And I think when you
treat people like that, it's easy for you to destroy them,
to write them off, to forget about them, and and
I think this is going to help transform that. So
(32:36):
I feel like it's more than an article. But I'm
also biased because of the person that's right there.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
No, But I mean, I feel like it's going to
be more than this because I don't hear of people
spending a year with someone to do a profile piece.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Right, we don't hear that as much anymore.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Yeah, we don't. I mean a lot of you know,
a lot of.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Magazines they you know, they just they don't really have
the resources to do that. And we're also we're living
in a twenty four hour news cycle, and as you see,
stories come in and they go and I think I'm
at my best when I get a chance to pull
back and really look at culture, look at society. Understand that.
You know, Dwayne Wade, we're a man bag. Fifteen years
(33:16):
ago and it was it was a joke. And then
now you know, like the same people who made the
jokes are walking around like, yo, you make my product.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
You see this goal go yard, you know, you know
what I mean. So it's like looking at all of
that and.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Looking at the impact on culture and then like bringing
it back to what really matters. And I think I
think his family matters to him more than anything, and
I think I think people just people need to see
that too.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
All Right, we'll talk about this more in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
We do have to ask ye when we come back
eight hundred and two ninety two fifty one fifty Dee
Watkins is here.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
It's a good time to get some advice.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And I do want to encourage people to go and
look at when he was on the Breakfast Club and
see that interview because we talked a lot about what
you had been working on at that time.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
You know as well.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Hundred two ninety two fifty one fifty. Call us up,
ask yee.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Is next and everybody since whether it's relationship with career advice,
Angela's dropping facts.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So you sho you should know. This is ask gee?
What's up?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Is way ye? But Angela Ye.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I'm here with my guest co host Dee Watkins, enjoying
this today and it's time for you guys to ask
any question you went to either one of us, for
both of us and ask yee. Eight hundred two ninety
two fifty one fifty. We have Ariana on the line.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
What's up? Ariana?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Hi?
Speaker 12 (34:28):
Angela? How are you?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'm good? How you feeling I'm feeling good.
Speaker 12 (34:32):
I'm feeling good. Excited to talk to you today.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
All right, Well, it's me and d Watkins. What's your
question for us?
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Hi?
Speaker 12 (34:38):
D wakans. So I've been going to therapy for about
a year now, and I wanted to know how I
can get my boyfriend to start therapy as well. I
know there's like a huge stigma around men in therapy,
and I think that it would definitely support him and
his growth and also support us as a couple if
we're both working on ourselves. He had a rough childhood,
(35:01):
you know, with his parents and upbringing, so I just
needed a little advice on how I can support him
to make that decision and ultimately start therapy for himself.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Oh do you wacken? This is as good? Do you
do therapy?
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Not as much as I should, But however, I believe
in therapy. It's transformed. My wife is transformed, My father
has transformed so many people. And what I will say
is for a person who who has some apprehension and
they're feeling like it may not be for them, I
think he should maybe like write down all of the
(35:36):
things that bother him, and then you should just take
the opportunity to talk about him and just start there.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I think the key into.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Getting someone to want to take that journey is first
making sure they have a safe space where they can
just freely talk, because it seems like if it doesn't happen,
you're confronted with a different situation.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Do you want to get healed or do you want
to be single?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
If my wife put her foot down and said, look,
you know you work all the time. You need to
take two hours, whatever hour a week to go see
a therapist. Then I value my relationship so much that
I would try. I would go horder And I.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Think one of the great way to approach it is
it's not going to hurt. And so worst case.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Scenario, you're like, oh, this isn't for me, I don't
want to do this anymore. That's fine, but let's at
least make an effort to try something new because maybe
you'll love it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's the best case scenario. But at the worst case,
it's not going to hurt.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Yeah, that makes sense for sure. I mean, you know,
I think it's hard for people to open up and
kind of face.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Some of their trauma. But it's only going to help.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You get better.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
But you love it. But if you don't love it,
you don't have to do it.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
His exercise, maybe he should make a list on every
reason why he should go and every reason why he
shouldn't go, and then maybe you guys could talk about
it over like a glass and wine or something like that.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I love that. O.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Thank you all right, Well, good luck, Ariana, And hopefully
he'll say, okay, I have no problem you know, trying it,
and if not just for himself, he could do it
for you, yes, yeah, and then and then you trick
him into doing it for himself.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
All all right, well, thank you so much for calling.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
You know, people are sometimes scared to do something that's
in a space where they're not comfortable, and I understand that.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
What I fear is I'm an artist. I don't feel
like the world doesn't want a balanced artist.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
They don't want to heal I don't.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
I feel like I pull for that pain and I
sell it the publisher that that works.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
But you know what, it'll be just maybe a different
type of understanding of yourself and that might pull from
somewhere else. I'm working on it, okay, all right, See, look,
Ariana just convinced you also.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Maybe I'm gonna go where her boyfriend goes. We're gonna
gonna okay, So.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
We're really relying on We're really relying on him now,
all right, Well that was asking y E nine two
fifty one fifty if you couldn't get through. And when
we come back, the star of MJ the Musical, Elijah
Johnson is going to be joining us listen. He's at
a long road to get to where he is right now,
but he's right where he's supposed to be. He can't
wait for you guys to hear him talk about it.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
It's way up. What you want to know?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
My name way up with angela ye.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
What's up is way up with angela ye. And it's
definitely way up in the room today. Elijah Johnson is here,
and if you have seen MJ the musical, you know
him as playing MJ on Broadway, such a big deal.
Before you came in here, we were talking about how
that is like the dream role for anybody who wants
to be on Broadway.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
Yeah, I mean just being beformer in general. He's the blueprints.
So I just feel really likely to be even part
of his leg in any type of way in our show.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You did the workshops for a middle Michael before this, so.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
I've kind of grown with the role in a way
which is like really cool.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
That was back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and you
are actually from a place that is well known for
its musical history, Detroit, Detroit Motown. Yes is Detroit. Did
you know a lot of that growing up? Like, was
that type of history ingrained in you.
Speaker 11 (39:03):
Yeah, Michael and the Jackson Fire specifically is how why
I started performing. When I was like eight, One of
the first dance moves I learned was the walk. So
that's like my blueprint for me to perform even when.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You were young, from a very like nine years old,
you were doing the Lion King.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Also that was like my first thing I.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Did as a young Simba. What made you even audition
for that? Like what was the role of your parents
or your family.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
And what it is that you do now?
Speaker 11 (39:26):
My father and like my dad's side of family is
like sports oriented. My mom's side it's like education. So
like this was not really like you know what I mean,
I want to say, yeah, Like it's not like he
was just like doing stuff like that. But I think
they saw that it was fun for me, that I
want to do it. But I wasn't afraid to go
up on stage perform. I performed The Dancer, Thriller and
my Talent Show when I was in middle school, and
(39:47):
then the next year I did Dance Machine, So I
sang and dance and I was just I would just
do it.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (39:50):
I think they asked me, like, do you want to
do this, and I was like, sure, I was eight,
so like, you know, like it's a bit, you know,
but I think I had that passion for it, and
I'm really glad that it all worked out because I
think this is truly what I'm meant to do. But
I truly didn't fall into it. It wasn't like a
narrow like, oh, this is exactly how I'm going to
get into this thing.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Right now, I'm talking to young actor, singer, performer Elijah Johnson.
You know him as MJ on Broadway but also as
a former member of Mindless Behavior.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
So were you like the lead in all the school plays?
Speaker 5 (40:17):
No, not even like that, not even I.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Think I did a school play.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
It truly was like it was a long time.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
Chris Brown came out and I was like, he's an amaze,
Like I was just amazed by him.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
My dad like he's very good. You should also watch
Michael Jackson.
Speaker 11 (40:27):
I don't know if we really like I listened to music,
but I don't know if you really like understand And
then like that watching the Michael Jackson short films and
music videos and Jackson five performances, I was cooked. And
then like in ten, I plot linking in Las Vegas,
and then like I had to move to Las Vegas.
Like it was just say, I've kind of been working
since then, I think. So then everybody had to move
to Vegas or somebody I moved my dad, Yeah, my dad,
(40:49):
my mom stayed home, my little brother and so like
it it was like a sacrifice for all of us.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
But it was like a big learning curve.
Speaker 11 (40:54):
Thankfully it worked out, you know, but it's it's deep.
It's insane now because in our show, we have a
little and so a lot of them are young simbls
that come from the Lion King.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Kids are so impressive. I went to go see MJ
the Music and even the Lion King. Seeing how those
kids can like remember their lines, know those dance moves
and hit it spot on is fascinating.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
It's insane, and.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
Especially like because I'm like, well I was that at
some point, like I'm adunlt know, I'm looking back and
like it's crazy because like they're so professional, so good,
they are still kids, and I'm like I remember that,
Like you don't understand the magnitude of like, oh, you're
leading like a lion King, Like you're a lead of
you don't understand you like you're really fully understand that
being now as adult, I think it's just like very
crazy that that was somewhat of my experience and to
(41:37):
still be doing it now and still find a like
joy And I'm really thankful that, like it's still a
warring thing for me because the enertry is really hard.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, you seem very normal. Yeah that's good.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Yeah that's hopefully. I'm good. Like I do.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I have a weird story, but like yeah, I'm like,
you know, like it's it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
What.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Congratulations to you, and thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Everybody, make sure you go see Elijah in MJ the
Musical honestly, and I'm gonna know you will not be disappointed.
You're going to go back and see it again. You're
going to spread the word. But thank you so much
for having thanks well to serve all of your success, all.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Of your hard work.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Thanks so much, appreciate.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
You can watch that full interview on my YouTube channel
Way Up with ye And when we come back, of course,
you guys have the last.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Word tapping against your voice heard what the word is?
He is the last word on Way Up with Angela.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Yee, what's up this way up with Angela Yee, I'm
here and d Watkins guest hosted today.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I'm so happy to be anytime listen.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Don't hold me to that.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Make sure you check out everything that he's doing at
Salon editor at Lard you've been.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
There for how long now?
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Ten years?
Speaker 10 (42:35):
Mold?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Well again, make sure you check out all of that.
Make sure you buy all of his books. Oh and
we didn't even talk about the HBO series. We also
didn't talk about the Mike Africa book. Just plug that
real fast.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
Oh please, please please check out Mike Africa's book on
the Move. That is one of the most important stories
in the history of America. Philadelphia Police Department blew up
a black neighborhood, killing a black family eleven people, six
with children. Got to know your history or be doomed
to repeat it.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Absolutely, so you guys, make sure you check that out.
But again, you know what can I say? Like you're
a legend.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I can't even run down all the things you've done,
but you got to come back every time. We'll drop
some more gems.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
All right, well again, Thank you also to Elijah Johnson
for joining us, and make sure you see MJ the
Musical on Broadway if you haven't had a chance to
see it yet. And I'm looking at you, I'm gonna
get you and your wife tickets ready to go to
Broadway and check that out. And for you guys, thank
you guys for joining us. Like I always say, this
is your show, so you have the last word.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I would love to sign a light on my son
Samar Brown, who is embarking on his military career for
the Air Force. He is actually leaving today, sending him peace,
love and blessings, and I pray, pray, pray that's the
Good Lord continues to watch over him and keep him faith.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
A little way up, Angela Yee is way up.
You are now angel what I call ye?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
His way up with angela yee happy? What is it Tuesday? Man?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I'm so excited because I have somebody who is, to
me very legendary. Dee Watkins is here today.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
He does this for a living. So don't let him.
Don't let him fool you. But you know, you can
watch a lot of his interviews on Salon, but also
his books that he's written, Black Boy Smile, which I love.
The first one I read, I think was We Speak
for Ourselves, which I think is a really important book.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And I know you had a lot to say as.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
We were getting ready for the election and why we
should vote. Also, you did the Wire book because you're
you're also from Baltimore, but you know The Wire is
a classic.
Speaker 6 (00:52):
That was that was a dream come true because it
was like a full circle moment because I wasn't a
writer when The Wire actually aired. The fact that they
will come to me and ask me to capture these
stories and talk to these people and reimagine what this
looks like twenty years from now was like.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
A dream coming.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
That was a dream come true.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, all right, well we're going to get all into
your business today any real Carmelo Anthony's memoir. I just
want to point that out to But we have a
special guest joining us later, Elijah Johnson.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He starts in MJ.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
The musical umbera way and you also know him by
the way he was in mindless behavior back in the day.
All right, well, let's get this show started with some love,
with some positivity because we need it.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty. Call us up.
We are gonna shine a light. It's way up.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Turn your lights on.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
Y'all's breading love to those who are doing greatness.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Light, shine a light on. It's time to shine a
light on them.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's way up.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
At Angela, yee, I'm here, my guy d Whykin's is
guest hosting today. Pleasure and honor to have you here,
pleasures all mine. All right, well, let's shine a light today.
Let's shine a light on Angie Martinez because it happens
to be Angie Martinez Day. She was given that day
by the former mayor Bill de Blasio. And of course
we know Angie Martinez is a best selling author of
My Voice, but she also is making her directorial debut
(02:15):
with the documentary on DJ Clark Kent. He is definitely
God's favorite DJ. But in addition to that, she just
has been an icon in this radio business and outside
of it. Her podcast in real life is amazing, the
way that she's able to talk to people with empathy
and also really cares about human beings, and that's a
rare thing, you know, in this day and age.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
You know, Angie, Yeah, I'm a big fan, A huge fan.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
All right, Well, shout out to Angie Martinez. We shine
a light on you today on Angie Martinez Day. Now,
who do you guys want to spread some love to?
Who do you want to shine a light on? Eight
hundred and two nine two fifty one fifty Randy, who
do you want to shine a light on?
Speaker 8 (02:53):
I would like to shine the light on doctor Friedo
and her birthday is tomorrow. She'd give free medical evidence
based advice on Mondays on her youth Fool channels live.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Okay, what's her YouTube channel at.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
Doctor Frida b R say l r I bstmata A
and I love you so.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Thank you you used doctor Frieda for some free advice.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh yeah, all right, we're good.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I appreciate you for Colling. We always need to turn
to the experts when we need some help. Don't try
to diagnose yourself. All right, thank you for calling.
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Oh yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
That was Shina Light eight hundred and two ninety two
fifty one fifty. And when we come back, we have
your ye t. Let's talk about ty Reese. He is
not playing when it comes to child support payments. Will
tell you what he had to say and how against
it he is.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
It's way up.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, it's like the talk like a Angela Jean like
they Angela Jean Man.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
She's spilling it all. This is yet well.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
It's way up with Angela yee. And I'm here with
my guest. So it's James Beard. Award winning author d
Watkins like. But let's get into some ut so. Celebrity
food critic Keith Lee did a review of this restaurant
in Seattle and Bellevue, Washington, Fob Sushi Bar. They are
now closed until further notice, but he did feel like
(04:19):
he had a responsibility to tell the truth about what
happened there.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Here's what he said, a thousand percent transparency.
Speaker 9 (04:25):
I didn't see anything until somebody pointed out I can't
confirm it or not what it was, but I can't confirm.
I am Okay. Only usion I'm making this video is
because I just saw a video of somebody who went
the day after us and how they hospitalized. And I've
already said a thousand times I don't believe in tearing
out any business, but at the same time, people's health
are on inline. I absolutely think there's accountability that should
be taken and it's something that you can learn from me.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Wow, it's the scariest thing is that he said he
can't confirm what denial what it was.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, the restaurant did say they were grateful for him
for stopping by one of its locations, and it does
uphole requirements from the FDA's Fish and Fisheries Products Hazards
and Controls Guidance. They said, regarding the video, the movement
observed and the fish may result from natural elasticity or
the pressure of chopsticks when applied to its structure. We
want to assure our customers that this is not indicative
(05:16):
of warms or any health concerns. They also had a
form confirming the food of one of its suppliers was
processed under hazard analysis, critical control points. So they said
they're going to be conducting an investigation to address the
situation and take all necessary measures to prevent it from happening.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Again, I mean, that's a good response, that's a great response.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
All you can do investigation, you know, get into.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But hey, all right, but again, I think all you
can do is be transparent.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm glad that they shut down.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
They're going to address these safety concerns and somebody to
get hospitalized, all right, Tyrese, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
He was on social media. He went on his live
and he.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Basically was setting the record straight on his stance about
not giving up the money that he has for child support.
I mean, child support is also a very uh how
would you say? What would you say about child support?
Like it's a it's a flawed system, because it's hard
to have something that I think can account for everybody.
(06:21):
You know, it's like a system that a lot of
people feel like it's unfair. Mothers sometimes feel that way
and fathers sometimes feel that way.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, I would just pay it, and I would just
pay it.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I will agree, But he has no intentions on on
doing that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Here's what he said, baby mama.
Speaker 10 (06:37):
Number one and two. If you ain't learned already, I
ain't giving you. Like I fought to earn his life,
I'm gonna fight to keep it. I'm gonna shoot, stab,
and kill over mine. I'm gonna protect this bottom line
at all costs.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
He also did vow that he would provide for his kids,
and he said the love that a father can have
for his children can't quite be explained. Whatever the outcome
is today, I am and will forever be their father.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But this isn't going to end.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
Well, yeah, it's scary, you know because now the kids
are going to be able to dig up these wars.
And that's the thing, right, Like you don't want your
kid to be in the sixth grade and someone hands
the phone and say, look, your daddy didn't even want
to paid. You know what I'm saying, So you can
be cruel. Yeah, kids, Oh, kids are super cruel. So
it's like, how do you how do you silence it?
(07:25):
How do you silence it?
Speaker 7 (07:26):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Sometimes you spend more money fighting these things in court
and then also mentally going through the anguish. That's because
owing money, money finance finances are a huge reason for
people to have like all kinds of depression, anxiety, having
to think about it all the time. Sometimes it's just
worth it to be like, what did the courts say?
You can fight that out in court, Maybe you can
get it lowered later on, you can revisit that, but
(07:48):
maybe just do what you owe so you don't end
up having to go to jail. Because I don't know that,
especially doing these lives, that the courts look favorably on
things like this.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I will argue that it's easier to make more money
than it is to have a puppy fight.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
It is literally easier to.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Make more money, and he has the ability to do.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
That, but that due to super talented. He can act,
he can sing, he's he could do comedy. The dude's
super He's one of the most talented people I ever
met in my life.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I interviewed him recently.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
He slung in the hallway for like fifteen minutes, and like,
you know, people were like they were like thankful, Like yo,
I cannot believe.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, he made us cry on lip service, you know,
talking about everybody in the room was relating to him.
So you're right about that. That's great advice. All right,
well that is your Yet when we come back, we
have about last night. I want to hear what you're
doing here in New York. So we're going to discuss
what you did last night. I'll talk about what I
did because I was filming all night last night filip Service.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's way up, so about.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Last night he went down.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's the way you put angela. Yee, I'm here. My
guy d Watkins is guest hosting today.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I'm happy to be in the building.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, and watch all his interviews on Salon. You do
amazing work on there.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
What did you do last night?
Speaker 11 (08:59):
Though?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Because you're in New York?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
So I have a I have a cool friend named
Randy Winston.
Speaker 8 (09:05):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
We used to run the Center for Fiction, but now
he's with a company called The Blacklist and then working
really hard to turn black books into television and film.
Everyone in the industry knows it's extremely hard to get
a to get a show or a film.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
The maid right now.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I had a project the HBO paid me to write
and work on for like three years, and then they're like, well,
I don't know if we want to go in that
direction and tell this type of story at this particular time.
So it's like, you know, these are these up and
you know, nothing against the network, but these are strong
black stories that we wanted to the world, and they
want to help these stories find a home.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So it's it's cool, it's cool.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Oh, it makes perfect sense to me. You know how
many people I've had on this show, and I'm like, man,
this book would be great if it was developed as
a movie, but it's not easy to do. Even the
other day, I was talking to Sisters Soldier and the
Coldest went to Ever that has been made into a movie,
and you know, she was explaining to me all of
the roadblocks that she had and trying to get something
like that done.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
That's just so long because Jada was supposed to play
Winter right back in the day.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, she had the rights to it, okay and whatever.
I'll talk about, Yeah it didn't happen. But I feel like,
how did that not happen? That to me is an automatic,
like this is going to be a well it has
to be done right though, But that book to this
day is still like a staple for all of us.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Like change my life. Like I would not be a
writer without the Colts whenever. I would literally not write
without that book. So you know, shout out to sister Soldier.
We still need to make that.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, No, seriously, there's so many stories that need to
be told, and it's like even to get a book
done too is also not easy for black authors because
a lot of times they look at well, I think
sometimes they discount the power of our stories and they
look at numbers and they think, for some reason, this
doesn't bring in the numbers that they want. But then
we prove them wrong all the time, all the time.
(10:58):
Look at what Tyler Perry's doing on Netflix. We've been
talking about that, having like number one movies, number one shows,
and people still are criticizing everything that he's doing.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Numbers don't lie.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
All right, Well, thank you for that. That's really interesting
for everybody listening. I know y'all care about getting making
sure that our stories are told because either you're telling them,
you're watching them, you're supporting them, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We need them, especially now.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But when me come back, d Watkins, I want people
to hear more about what it is that you do.
All right, because you talked about HBO, and I know
you did we own this city you were a writer
on that, and like we said earlier, you did the
Wire book also, which is amazing from you being.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
A kid from Baltimore. I said Baltimore earlier.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
He was like, you got it right now for Baltimore.
We gotta let it roll off Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But we'll talk.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
We'll talk more about what you have going on, because
another one of your passions is sports, in particular basketball,
and so I just want to hear some more of
your journey and things you've been working on.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
All right, cool, all right, it's way up, no beg.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We about to do this.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
One of the memos to famous women in radio vidio women,
we're talking about Angelae.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
He you're way up with it, Angela. Please believe that.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
All right, this way up with Angela.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Ye, I'm here with my guest co host d Watkins,
and we're going to talk to you a bit this
morning throughout the show, just because I want to make
sure people are super familiar with things that you've done
and worked on.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I met you as an author, right, he's just not
in his head.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, but one of my favorite books that you wrote
was We Speak for Ourselves, and that's basically can you
explain to people why you titled it that and what
that book is about.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Yeah, you know. The funny thing about that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Book is that's so relevant today right now and the
publishing industry.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
The guy who acquired the book named Todd. Shout out
to Todd had left a Tria before the book was published,
so I had to work with a new editor, and
a new editor did not necessarily agree with the premise
of the book, so it hurt the book promotion wise,
even though the book ended up being a great success.
(12:55):
The book is about how you should really, really really
be careful when advocating for oppressed groups if you do
not have contact with those groups, right, how can I say,
you know, these people matter, and I'm a match for
these people, and I'm a fight for these people.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
But when I see these people in real life across
the street, I run away. I don't go into their neighborhoods.
I don't go into their schools, I don't go to
their youth programs. I literally see them and go to
the opposite way. But when it's time to get a
check to advocate, I show up. So yeah, we speak
for ourselves. It was a fun book to write.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It's interesting in this day and age too, because I
feel like during this election, certain people were like propped
up and you're like, this person is not speaking for
my experience of for how I feel, but sometimes media
elects to painted like this person is representative of this community. Well,
how did that happen? That person is not even part
of this community.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
And it's it's a it's a it's an easy fix.
You know, I'm from East Baltimore. I might say that
thirty times today people from my neighborhood. We can, we can,
we can tell you what we want, what we demand
from a leader, what we want from an organization that
wants to do business with us.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
We can articulate it very clearly.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
We don't need somebody from whatever social media website to
come articulate our struggles for us.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
We can tell you this is.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
What we want, all right. And now I want to
get to the sports part of it.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Because you did write Carmelo Anthony's memoir, write someone's memoir
like Carmelo, how was that for you to be able
to get into his world? And because Carmelo is definitely
not the type of person that really just trusts anybody either.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
You know, the funny thing about Carmelo is that Carmelo
can write, and you know Camelo Carmelo is a great writer,
so you know, and he's he's he's so good at
just recalling memories from his childhood. So he made the
job super easy for me and more of like a collaboration.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
And I think.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
I think the trust was there just because, like we
literally with two guys. And even though he was born
in Brooklyn, he came to Baltimore when he was eight
years old, and he knows what it's like to be
just in the middle of super poverty.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
That's the perfect pairing. You guys too.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
All the way we were working we're writing the film
together right now. Oh, we're working on We're working on
a film right now.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
I went to his crib maybe like a month ago,
and we just set on the porch for like hours,
picking apart like a Baltimore story we want to tell
because you know him and a sign he shout out
to a SONI they're big in the film and they
want to make that mark in the film world, and
I'm excited to get in while I'm fitting with that.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
And Kayane did they announced he's going to Syracuse. That
was a big deal.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
He's going to carry a torch.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Kanye.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Kanye, we trust.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And we have more to talk about because we didn't
even get to d Wade, but we'll talk about that.
We have time to do that a little later. But
I cannot wait to hear what this process has been
like for you for the past year working with d Wade.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
When we come back, we have Yo Yuti.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
We'll talk about Jay Cole and he is discussing Kanye
West changing his life and influencing his music.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's the way up here. Some of my girl Saizza
with shirts.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
Sure she's about to blow the lid ab off this,
but let's get it. Oh yeah, Angelus feeling that yee te.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Come and get the tea.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's way up with Angela. Yee. I'm here. My guy
d Watkins is here and you ready for some yet?
Are you a jakof fan?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Absolutely?
Speaker 12 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I'm looking forward to his whole audio series that he's doing.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
But on his new audio series Inevitable, he talked about
Kanye West and how Kanye West influenced him greatly.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Here's what he said.
Speaker 13 (16:29):
I was an aggressive battle rapper right and I was
a storyteller of like fantasy but my life was actually regular.
I didn't sell no drugs, you know what I mean,
Like like that my favor it was nothing like my
favorite rappers, you know what I mean. Like the lifestyle
portion was kind of like I didn't get it. I
don't know how to talk about my life. And then
Kanye West happened and that changed my life.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Okay, but it felt like they didn't get along after that,
like there was some you know, shots throne. I think
both ways Kanye, I think very in particular, fired de
sided J Cole and his remix of like that he said,
play J Cole, get the something dry. You know what
I'm saying, Yeah, you know. And J Cole they said
(17:12):
took stabs at him on Middle Child and things like that.
So I don't know, you know, the situation is the.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Way he did the way he did, the way J
Cole articulated his frustrations with Kanye, it kind of came
from respect, you could tell.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Because Kanye.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Kanye represented a paradigm shift in rap music, like you're right,
Like he came through with his Polo shirts and his
Louis Vitan backpacks and his high fashion when everybody was
in big jeans and butters and automatic weapons.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
He gave voice to a lot of people. So yeah,
I hope, I hope thinking mind that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, false profits. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
And that's the song in particular right that we talk
about absolutely all right now. Ja Co also put out
his debut mixtape to come up on streaming services, so
he surprised people with the release of that, and that
was back in May of two thousand and seven. It's
never been on streaming services until today. So there's seventeen
tracks in total. So we all know the song Dollar
(18:14):
in a Dream that's on their school day simba. So
people are very excited about this and for the youngins
who maybe never heard it, now's your opportunity, all right.
Genie Mai is accusing Jezi of harassment after his oppressive
quote unquote oppressive subpoena of her bank records. Now she's
asking a judge to quash his secret subpoena of her
(18:36):
City National Bank accounts, and she said he requested details
on her personal and business accounts, as well as deposit
and withdrawal slips before November first. She said it is oppressive, unreasonable,
and not calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible
evidence and are requested for the purposes of annoyance, embarrassment,
and oppression. So they did settle their divorce back in June,
(18:56):
but she did accuse him of being in contempt of
their agreement and a new fie. This has been such
a contentious divorce. Like they have a beautiful daughter out
of it, but just everything I feel like surrounding China
to get out of this marriage has been a lot.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
Oh, it's a lot m h.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And you know, her lawyer said, given jesus propensity for
failing to pay his financial obligations, both in his prior
unrelated custody case and based on a number of lawsuits
that have been filed against him by his former employees
and associates regarding non payment of debts, it is clear
that Jesu's motive in issuing said subpoena was for no
other purpose than to harass and intimidate Miss May.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
They tried to embarrass him with that one. The whole
thing is petty, all right.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Ryan Garcia is targeting a Jake Paul fight, and he
has another fight that's coming up December thirtieth, Is that right?
Is that what his fight is, but it's he's currently
has a one year suspension. Yeah, it's December thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
This is his next fight.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
He's fighting a Japanese kickboxer rukaya Onpo. And then he
said Jake Paul he wants to fight him in twenty
twenty five. That probably will make them money. Yeah, people
will see that.
Speaker 6 (20:05):
I wish we didn't have to call it boxing. I
think we should just put this. We should start like
something brand new. Yeah, specially it's a spectacle.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
All right, well that is your ut when we come back,
we have under the radar. These are the stories that
are not necessarily in the headlines. They're flying under the radar,
but we definitely want to make sure you know about him,
be informed.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's way up this in the news that relates to you.
These stories are flying under the radar.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
All right, it's way yup with Angela Yee.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
I'm here with my guest co host Dee Watkins today exciting. Now,
these are the under the radar stories that we definitely
know you need to hear about, even if you haven't.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, he is going to propose
the next steps in Donald Trump's new York hush money
case today after these unprecedented circumstances, following his conviction on
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thirty four felon accounts earlier this year. So his sentencing
is tentatively scheduled for November twenty six, but they're trying
to get this case dismissed, of course, ahead of Donald
Trump's inauguration, so we'll see what's going to happen. Trump's
lawyers also argued for a dismissal by citing the Presidential
Transition Act of nineteen sixty three, which says that government
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officers have to take lawful steps to avoid or minimize
disruptions to the presidential transition.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So that's part of how.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Convenient your head, How convenient, that's how that works.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
So listen, Alvin Brad, you know what to do. You
know another thing. And we talked about this off the air.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
We were talking about the housing crisis that we're having
here and Donald Trump's plan of mass, mass deportation, how
that's going to affect homes being built.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Right a house in Baltimore that would cost four hundred
thousand dollars, which would probably be three million dollars in
New York. But a four hundred thousand dollars home for
a family would cost two million dollars if you expect
me to build it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know, I was reading this article on CNN that's
just about that, right.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
They're trying to argue that we need more housing because
of these undocumented immigrants, but they said an influx of
what they're saying is an influx of immigrants document or
not as to housing demand, potentially increasing competition for homes.
But the truth to the matter is, at least according
to the National Association of Homebuilders, at least one point
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five million homes need to be built to meet growing demand.
There's a need for more construction workers as well. Right now,
there's about two hundred and eighty two thousand construction jobs
open as of September, and according to the CEO of NHB,
they said, immigrant labor is really important for our ability
to continue to build homes affordably. Similar to what you said,
d Watkins, anything that would have an impact on the
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labor supply, and in this case, the immigrant labor supply
does give us concern about our ability to meet the
housing needs of the country.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
We're having it like there's a shortage right now in
the workforce in general.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
People don't want to be they don't want to be firefighters,
they don't want it to go to college like people
are seeing it, like you know, the gig economy has
already shifted how America works. Now you're gonna just delete
the workforce, like our economy will shattered. This would be
like one of the biggest nightmares ever.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
The construction industry already has a hard time finding workers,
they said. Surveyed at the end of last year, homebuilders
ranked the skilled labor shortage as the top challenge they
faced in twenty twenty three and the top expected challenge
for twenty twenty four. It's a struggle to find legal
employees to fill open roles at his firms. And they
do have to rely on immigrant labor, but they need
legal labor otherwise. You know, this shortage is gonna get
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worse and worse, So just anticipate that, all right.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
That is your under the radar stories.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
We have the way It Mixed at the top of
the hour, plus the star of MJ the musical Oh Brahway,
Elijah Johnson is going to be joining us. It's way up,
they saysof in the rooms from industry shade.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
To all of gossip out sad man Angelus spilling that eat.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
All right, this way up with Angela Yee. I'm here
with my guest co host de Watkins today, ready to
get into.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
This et om here all right.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Diddy's sons have issued a cease and desist over this
Camporter book. Christen and Quincy Combs fired off this letter
to Courtney Burgess and his attorney Ariel Mitchell over the
Kimporter Tell It All, a book that is sold online
under the pseudonym of Jamal Millwood. They said they became
the rightful heirs and owners of her intellectual property following
her death in November twenty eighteen, and if this is
(24:30):
a real thing, a real diary, then that should belong
to them.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
They said.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Burgess himself did a bunch of interviews to promote the book,
but it was originally an unedited copy of her diary memoir,
and he's alleging to have a flash drive from people
who were close to Kim and printed it without any
edits to produce the book. They're shooting down that narrative.
They're saying the whole flash drive tale is false and
misleads the public. But if it were true, that flash
drive would belong to them.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
It belongs to the kids. Let that woman rest in peace.
You know, she's not here. She can't defend herself. Maybe
she wanted it out, maybe she didn't. But let her
rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Right, Yeah, maybe it's real. Maybe we don't even know.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
But they said there's you have five days to shut
down the online sale of the book, stopped doing interviews
making these false claims, turn over any of her possessions
that he claims to have, and they want an accounting
of any money that he's already made off the book.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
In other words, lawsuit on the way.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Absolutely all right, Now, if you guys recall Quincy and
Christian Colmes. Diddy's sons also did get into a little
physical altercation with ray J that Chris Brown broke up.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, ray J is now saying that they have squashed everything.
Here's what he said.
Speaker 14 (25:39):
As far as Diddy's sons, Yeah, it's been a lot,
and I think at this point, you know, we had
to all sit down and we had to really figure
out what this looks like and what we should do
moving forward.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And so we've worked out our differences.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
All right, Well, that's good ray J worked out his
differences with Justin Christian and Quincy. You know, there is
another person now speaking about Diddy. Now this is a
very wild claim, but his former bodyguard is saying that
he sacrificed I guess a bird in order to get
(26:17):
out of the nineteen ninety nine nightclub shooting. He said
he had his driver take him to meet a man
who had been waiting for him at the park, and
then I guess when Puff got close to the guy,
he dropped down to his knees. This is according to
Rolling Stone. He said, next thing I see is this
smoke just going back and forth around Puff. I guess
it was sage or something like that. And then he
alleges that the man this is Gene Deal, that the
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man holding a Bible began praying and laying his hands
on Diddy. And then he said he instructed him to
grab a white bird from the cage he had bought
and then threw it up in the air and the
bird just fell to the ground like it was a brick.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And he said the bird didn't move, it just died.
And then did he moved away from there? Quick?
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Wow, WHOA, Now I have a lot of friends that
like in the system, been through the system.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
We talk about this all of the time. And just
like the bird defense is something new.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
I never heard of such a thing.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Now, you know, now we know?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
All right? Now lip Service. It's a Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
So the newest episode of lip Service is out today
and Derek Mlano and Black China are on the latest episode.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You know, they are engaged.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
There are they're gonna be on love and hip Hop together,
and so one thing that they talked about the whole
episode is basically like they are in love love and
when I saw you, Black China got so emotional just
talking about their whole relationship, how they got to where
they are. Derek Mlinald talks a lot about how initially
he didn't even want to date her because he didn't
want to mix business with pleasure.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
He's a music producer.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And so here's Black China and Derek Mlinald talking about
who said I love you first?
Speaker 14 (27:51):
Maybe me?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I think it might have been you.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
It's happening.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
She said I love you, but you both I said
love at first sight.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Ye said.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
At first and then that's that is all right?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
So one year of dating and look now they're engaged. Now,
another thing that they talked about, this always comes up.
Prenup are not And here's what they said.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I'm not against it.
Speaker 15 (28:22):
I'm not opposed to it, but I mean because she
has a lot of stuff already that's hers. I have
my stuff that's mine. You know what I'm saying. But
I'm not one of those people like, oh, you need
to do one.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But it's a contract, and you guys are business people,
Well that's it.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
It won't be a prenup.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying because I feel like it's
one of those things we have.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
We're not getting divorced.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Okay, I ain't gonna tell nobody how to conduct their business.
But yes, So you can watch that full episode at
six pm. All right, six pm. That will be out
on my YouTube channel, but it's also available the audio
on iHeart Network. All Right, when we come back, Dee Watkins,
we are going to talk to you some more about
what you have going on. Earlier, we talked about this
(29:07):
whole process of Carmelo Anthony's book. We talked about everything
that you have going on, even and I told you
about one of my favorite books that you did. We
speak for ourselves black Boys smile.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You also have that.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
But I want to talk about this new thing, this
new thing that you're embarking on. You were with d
Wade for the past year, so we're going to get
some little spoilers about that when we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's way up, ye yee, is what you all being
waiting for.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You're tapped in the way up with Angela yee.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yes, this way up with Angela Yee. I'm here with
my guest co host, Dee Watkins.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I hate the fact that we just in ye t
told this Diddy story about the bird and the bird
and then we ordered popeye'es.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
What is wrong with us?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
All right?
Speaker 7 (29:50):
Well?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Anyway, I know, well do you.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Walk ins here by the way? Editor at large at Salon,
is that still your title there? I just want to
make sure I have that right absolutely, Okay, Same and
has done some amazing interviews. I was just talking about
your interview with you that you did with Andre Day
and you also interviewed Tyrese recently. But you do amazing
work and as an author, as a writer for television shows,
(30:17):
as somebody who helps people write their memoirs as well.
You just spent a lot of time with d Wade,
Now tell us what's happening with that.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
So this is an article that I've been working on
a profile for a little over a year. And you know,
one thing about about athletes, especially you know, ones that
are public facing like way.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
You know, we look at the business, we look at
the sports, we look at what.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Is put out through the internet, social media and all
of that, but we don't really get an opportunity to
go deeper to see the family man, to see the
person who is extremely grateful for what they accomplished, to
see a person so confident bring up stories where they
weren't always as confident, you know, And it was you know,
(31:08):
the story comes out at the top of next year.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
But what I will say is that it's some it's
some beautiful scenes in that article.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
We went back to his childhood home on fifty Knife
and Perry in Chicago, and he jumped out the truck
like a kid, you know, because he hasn't he hasn't
been in that neighborhood in a long time. So it
was like emotional and nostalgic for him. And then I
got a chance to see the statue.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
That everybody was talking about.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Everybody was talking about a couple of times before it
was done, so I got a chance to to just
capture that whole process, which is also, you know, a
story within itself.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
I do most people because I don't hear of you're
doing this article. It's a whole profile. This feels like
more than an article.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I feel like it's gonna be transformative for how people
look at athlete and how people look at black men
and our ability to be vulnerable to fail. I think
still two and twenty four. You know, a lot of
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times it's black people we arrived of the ability to feel.
You know, people think we're so strong, we're so resilient,
we can just push through. And I think when you
treat people like that, it's easy for you to destroy them,
to write them off, to forget about them, and and
I think this is going to help transform that. So
(32:36):
I feel like it's more than an article. But I'm
also biased because of the person that's right there.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
No, But I mean, I feel like it's going to
be more than this because I don't hear of people
spending a year with someone to do a profile piece.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Right, we don't hear that as much anymore.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Yeah, we don't. I mean a lot of you know,
a lot of.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
Magazines they you know, they just they don't really have
the resources to do that. And we're also we're living
in a twenty four hour news cycle, and as you see,
stories come in and they go and I think I'm
at my best when I get a chance to pull
back and really look at culture, look at society. Understand that.
You know, Dwayne Wade, we're a man bag. Fifteen years
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ago and it was it was a joke. And then
now you know, like the same people who made the
jokes are walking around like, yo, you make my product.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
You see this goal go yard, you know, you know
what I mean. So it's like looking at all of
that and.
Speaker 6 (33:31):
Looking at the impact on culture and then like bringing
it back to what really matters. And I think I
think his family matters to him more than anything, and
I think I think people just people need to see
that too.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
All Right, we'll talk about this more in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
We do have to ask ye when we come back
eight hundred and two ninety two fifty one fifty Dee
Watkins is here.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
It's a good time to get some advice.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
And I do want to encourage people to go and
look at when he was on the Breakfast Club and
see that interview because we talked a lot about what
you had been working on at that time.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
You know as well.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Hundred two ninety two fifty one fifty. Call us up,
ask yee.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Is next and everybody since whether it's relationship with career advice,
Angela's dropping facts.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
So you sho you should know. This is ask gee?
What's up?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Is way ye? But Angela Ye.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I'm here with my guest co host Dee Watkins, enjoying
this today and it's time for you guys to ask
any question you went to either one of us, for
both of us and ask yee. Eight hundred two ninety
two fifty one fifty. We have Ariana on the line.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
What's up? Ariana?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Hi?
Speaker 12 (34:28):
Angela? How are you?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'm good? How you feeling I'm feeling good.
Speaker 12 (34:32):
I'm feeling good. Excited to talk to you today.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
All right, Well, it's me and d Watkins. What's your
question for us?
Speaker 8 (34:38):
Hi?
Speaker 12 (34:38):
D wakans. So I've been going to therapy for about
a year now, and I wanted to know how I
can get my boyfriend to start therapy as well. I
know there's like a huge stigma around men in therapy,
and I think that it would definitely support him and
his growth and also support us as a couple if
we're both working on ourselves. He had a rough childhood,
(35:01):
you know, with his parents and upbringing, so I just
needed a little advice on how I can support him
to make that decision and ultimately start therapy for himself.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Oh do you wacken? This is as good? Do you
do therapy?
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Not as much as I should, But however, I believe
in therapy. It's transformed. My wife is transformed, My father
has transformed so many people. And what I will say
is for a person who who has some apprehension and
they're feeling like it may not be for them, I
think he should maybe like write down all of the
(35:36):
things that bother him, and then you should just take
the opportunity to talk about him and just start there.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I think the key into.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Getting someone to want to take that journey is first
making sure they have a safe space where they can
just freely talk, because it seems like if it doesn't happen,
you're confronted with a different situation.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Do you want to get healed or do you want
to be single?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
If my wife put her foot down and said, look,
you know you work all the time. You need to
take two hours, whatever hour a week to go see
a therapist. Then I value my relationship so much that
I would try. I would go horder And I.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Think one of the great way to approach it is
it's not going to hurt. And so worst case.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Scenario, you're like, oh, this isn't for me, I don't
want to do this anymore. That's fine, but let's at
least make an effort to try something new because maybe
you'll love it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's the best case scenario. But at the worst case,
it's not going to hurt.
Speaker 12 (36:33):
Yeah, that makes sense for sure. I mean, you know,
I think it's hard for people to open up and
kind of face.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Some of their trauma. But it's only going to help.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You get better.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
But you love it. But if you don't love it,
you don't have to do it.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
His exercise, maybe he should make a list on every
reason why he should go and every reason why he
shouldn't go, and then maybe you guys could talk about
it over like a glass and wine or something like that.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
I love that. O.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Thank you all right, Well, good luck, Ariana, And hopefully
he'll say, okay, I have no problem you know, trying it,
and if not just for himself, he could do it
for you, yes, yeah, and then and then you trick
him into doing it for himself.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
All all right, well, thank you so much for calling.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
You know, people are sometimes scared to do something that's
in a space where they're not comfortable, and I understand that.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
What I fear is I'm an artist. I don't feel
like the world doesn't want a balanced artist.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
They don't want to heal I don't.
Speaker 5 (37:34):
I feel like I pull for that pain and I
sell it the publisher that that works.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
But you know what, it'll be just maybe a different
type of understanding of yourself and that might pull from
somewhere else. I'm working on it, okay, all right, See, look,
Ariana just convinced you also.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Maybe I'm gonna go where her boyfriend goes. We're gonna
gonna okay, So.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
We're really relying on We're really relying on him now,
all right, Well that was asking y E nine two
fifty one fifty if you couldn't get through. And when
we come back, the star of MJ the Musical, Elijah
Johnson is going to be joining us listen. He's at
a long road to get to where he is right now,
but he's right where he's supposed to be. He can't
wait for you guys to hear him talk about it.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
It's way up. What you want to know?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
My name way up with angela ye.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
What's up is way up with angela ye. And it's
definitely way up in the room today. Elijah Johnson is here,
and if you have seen MJ the musical, you know
him as playing MJ on Broadway, such a big deal.
Before you came in here, we were talking about how
that is like the dream role for anybody who wants
to be on Broadway.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
Yeah, I mean just being beformer in general. He's the blueprints.
So I just feel really likely to be even part
of his leg in any type of way in our show.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
You did the workshops for a middle Michael before this, so.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
I've kind of grown with the role in a way
which is like really cool.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
That was back in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, and you
are actually from a place that is well known for
its musical history, Detroit, Detroit Motown. Yes is Detroit. Did
you know a lot of that growing up? Like, was
that type of history ingrained in you.
Speaker 11 (39:03):
Yeah, Michael and the Jackson Fire specifically is how why
I started performing. When I was like eight, One of
the first dance moves I learned was the walk. So
that's like my blueprint for me to perform even when.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You were young, from a very like nine years old,
you were doing the Lion King.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Also that was like my first thing I.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Did as a young Simba. What made you even audition
for that? Like what was the role of your parents
or your family.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
And what it is that you do now?
Speaker 11 (39:26):
My father and like my dad's side of family is
like sports oriented. My mom's side it's like education. So
like this was not really like you know what I mean,
I want to say, yeah, Like it's not like he
was just like doing stuff like that. But I think
they saw that it was fun for me, that I
want to do it. But I wasn't afraid to go
up on stage perform. I performed The Dancer, Thriller and
my Talent Show when I was in middle school, and
(39:47):
then the next year I did Dance Machine, So I
sang and dance and I was just I would just
do it.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (39:50):
I think they asked me, like, do you want to
do this, and I was like, sure, I was eight,
so like, you know, like it's a bit, you know,
but I think I had that passion for it, and
I'm really glad that it all worked out because I
think this is truly what I'm meant to do. But
I truly didn't fall into it. It wasn't like a
narrow like, oh, this is exactly how I'm going to
get into this thing.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Right now, I'm talking to young actor, singer, performer Elijah Johnson.
You know him as MJ on Broadway but also as
a former member of Mindless Behavior.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
So were you like the lead in all the school plays?
Speaker 5 (40:17):
No, not even like that, not even I.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Think I did a school play.
Speaker 5 (40:20):
It truly was like it was a long time.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
Chris Brown came out and I was like, he's an amaze,
Like I was just amazed by him.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
My dad like he's very good. You should also watch
Michael Jackson.
Speaker 11 (40:27):
I don't know if we really like I listened to music,
but I don't know if you really like understand And
then like that watching the Michael Jackson short films and
music videos and Jackson five performances, I was cooked. And
then like in ten, I plot linking in Las Vegas,
and then like I had to move to Las Vegas.
Like it was just say, I've kind of been working
since then, I think. So then everybody had to move
to Vegas or somebody I moved my dad, Yeah, my dad,
(40:49):
my mom stayed home, my little brother and so like
it it was like a sacrifice for all of us.
Speaker 5 (40:52):
But it was like a big learning curve.
Speaker 11 (40:54):
Thankfully it worked out, you know, but it's it's deep.
It's insane now because in our show, we have a
little and so a lot of them are young simbls
that come from the Lion King.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Kids are so impressive. I went to go see MJ
the Music and even the Lion King. Seeing how those
kids can like remember their lines, know those dance moves
and hit it spot on is fascinating.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
It's insane, and.
Speaker 11 (41:15):
Especially like because I'm like, well I was that at
some point, like I'm adunlt know, I'm looking back and
like it's crazy because like they're so professional, so good,
they are still kids, and I'm like I remember that,
Like you don't understand the magnitude of like, oh, you're
leading like a lion King, Like you're a lead of
you don't understand you like you're really fully understand that
being now as adult, I think it's just like very
crazy that that was somewhat of my experience and to
(41:37):
still be doing it now and still find a like
joy And I'm really thankful that, like it's still a
warring thing for me because the enertry is really hard.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, you seem very normal. Yeah that's good.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Yeah that's hopefully. I'm good. Like I do.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I have a weird story, but like yeah, I'm like,
you know, like it's it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
What.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Congratulations to you, and thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Everybody, make sure you go see Elijah in MJ the
Musical honestly, and I'm gonna know you will not be disappointed.
You're going to go back and see it again. You're
going to spread the word. But thank you so much
for having thanks well to serve all of your success, all.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Of your hard work.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Thanks so much, appreciate.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
You can watch that full interview on my YouTube channel
Way Up with ye And when we come back, of course,
you guys have the last.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Word tapping against your voice heard what the word is?
He is the last word on Way Up with Angela.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Yee, what's up this way up with Angela Yee, I'm
here and d Watkins guest hosted today.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I'm so happy to be anytime listen.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Don't hold me to that.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Make sure you check out everything that he's doing at
Salon editor at Lard you've been.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
There for how long now?
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Ten years?
Speaker 10 (42:35):
Mold?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (42:36):
Well again, make sure you check out all of that.
Make sure you buy all of his books. Oh and
we didn't even talk about the HBO series. We also
didn't talk about the Mike Africa book. Just plug that
real fast.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
Oh please, please please check out Mike Africa's book on
the Move. That is one of the most important stories
in the history of America. Philadelphia Police Department blew up
a black neighborhood, killing a black family eleven people, six
with children. Got to know your history or be doomed
to repeat it.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Absolutely, so you guys, make sure you check that out.
But again, you know what can I say? Like you're
a legend.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I can't even run down all the things you've done,
but you got to come back every time. We'll drop
some more gems.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
I'm here, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
All right, well again, Thank you also to Elijah Johnson
for joining us, and make sure you see MJ the
Musical on Broadway if you haven't had a chance to
see it yet. And I'm looking at you, I'm gonna
get you and your wife tickets ready to go to
Broadway and check that out. And for you guys, thank
you guys for joining us. Like I always say, this
is your show, so you have the last word.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I would love to sign a light on my son
Samar Brown, who is embarking on his military career for
the Air Force. He is actually leaving today, sending him peace,
love and blessings, and I pray, pray, pray that's the
Good Lord continues to watch over him and keep him faith.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
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