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June 12, 2025 34 mins

Tamika Mallory Opens Up: Surviving Rape, Addiction,  The Night Her Dad Warned Her + More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are now angel what I call her ye way up?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, what's good. It's way up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Lindsey Grange, your day two were back together and two besties.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
And now I'm loving this. I feel like you'll be
here more.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Right I will.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
You know I'm gonna manifest the East Coach from myself. Okay, well,
let's get this show started. We got to mek A
Mallory joining us today.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
By the way, she has her book I Live to
Tell the Story, a memoir of love, Legacy and Resilience.
And all three of us have worked with coach jesse
My yeah the Detox now dot com. So we'll be
talking to them. But let's start the show with some
love and some positivity. Let's shine a light eight hundred
two nine two fifty one fifty Call us up. Let
us know who you want to spread some love to.

(00:48):
It's way up.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Turn your lights on, y'all spreading love to those who
are doing greatness.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Shut the light on.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
It's time to shine a light on what's.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Up his way up at Angela yee.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm here with my girl, Lindsay Granger, Hey, and we
are going to shine a light. You found this person actually, lindsay, Yes,
Will l. Salwe he's the co owner and manager of
Zach's Finest Deli and Grocery and Staten Island, and you
know what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
He gives kids free food for good grades.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I love that because I remember my sister had friends
going up there.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
She's three years older than me. But you know, they
gave me ten dollars if I got an A and
it meant so much.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
You'd be trying to get them aids.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
I was trying to get them a's on harpers. I
wanted ten dollars. So this is such a big deal
to be doing. As somebody who's not related or not
friends with these kids, you know, this.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Is really a community base thing because the kids literally
going there and he knows their names, what their last
grade was. Well, he says, students who get an average
of eighty to ninety percent get whatever they want from
the store. And if you get between seventy and eighty,
you get ten dollars worth of items.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now if you get ninety percent.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Or higher, you get your pick of items from the store,
as well as one hundred dollars bill.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
What he had a T shirt. That's a good there
to report current.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Right, he must be doing well, which is good for him.
He must be doing well.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
But anyway, shout out to him.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
That's amazing to see that as Zach's finest deli and groceries.
Shout out to will El Salwie, he's the car owner
and manager. Now me and who do you want to
shine a light on?

Speaker 6 (02:17):
I would like to sign a light on both my
balling Dominic and shamar Okay. Dominic just started working at McDonald's,
so he is extremely excited about that. And my oldest
is in the Air Force. He just got stationed in
North Dakota. So I just want them to know that
I'm extremely excited him.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
It's beautiful, Dominic.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Tell Dominic, make sure I get my fries nice and
piping high.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Don't play with me. And that's not too much salt.
That's what I was in.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Oh And I think it's really good when parents tell
their kids they're proud of them.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Sometimes kids just want to you know, they know they
want to live up. They want to hear it. So
that's so nice of you.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Yes, he is extremely excited to start his first job.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
What city are you in. We're in Atlanta, Georgia, Okay.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I'm gonnall's gonna get like flooded with people in the drive.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
We'll shout out to them, you know, and to you
too for being a great mom and raising them to
be hard working individuals.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
And you made it.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
Congratulations, yeap, none to take care of you. Thanks for
calling you too.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
All right, Well that was shine a light eight hundred
and two ninety two fifty one fifty. If you want to,
you can always call and leave a message and shine
a light for last word. And when we come back,
we have your ye t. And let's talk about Harvey Weinstein.
He was found guilty of sexual assault. Yes, they will
tell you what happened, all right.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
It's way up the rooms from industry shade to all
of gossip out. Angela's speeling that yet.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
What's up his way up at Angela? Yee, I'm here
and my girl Linda Grangers here.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
We're gonna talk about it all.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's right, it's ye tea time. Harvey Weinstein.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
He has been convicted of one count of committing a
criminal sexual act, but he was acquitted on an one
of his sex crimes for that retrial in New York City.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, Harvey Weinstein feels like never ending. He has so
many charges against him over the years that he's just
going to be in court. It feels like the rest
of his life, which you know, he did these things rightfully.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
So there are so many people that have discussed how
awful he is.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
And this child started in April.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Three women testified about these alleged sexual assaults that he committed,
and he faced two counts of committing a criminal sexual
act in the first degree and one count of third
degree rape.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
So it is a mixed verdict.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
It's so wild how many different charges have come up
in how many people must have been sitting around seeing
these actions happen. Like he's so wealthy and access to
so many people. You think about how many people watched
all this go down, and you kind of get disgusted
about it.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
If it, like I said, if it's true, obviously these
are alleged.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, he is serving a separate sixteen year prison sentence
for his twenty twenty two rape conviction.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right, so we do have that to go there.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
Yeah, not alleged, Okay, and Silento, do you remember Silento?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Me?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Where?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yes? Yes, that's me?

Speaker 8 (04:57):
Day Nay.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
He just got.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Sentenced to thirty years yesterday, gosh, I thought we have
a good news for the twenty twenty one murder of
his cousin in Atlanta. He was arrested weeks after his cousin,
Frederick Rooks the third, was found shot multiple times at
a home. He admitted to the shooting and bullets founded
the scene messgun he was carrying at the time of
his arrest. According to prosecutors, when you have access and

(05:20):
you've seen another side of success and change, like why
go back to any of the stuff that you may
or may not have been doing in the past, right,
I mean, look, his song that watched Me Whip came
out in twenty fifteen.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
He was only a junior in high school at that time.
So yes, and condolence to the family.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's not anything easy to have to deal with another
family member killing, you know, somebody else.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
So that's awful.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Well that is your yet and when we come back,
we have about last night. That's where we discussed what
we did last night. I spent a lot of my
day yesterday on the phone on hold.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I know you did too, Oh, I spent it on
text automated text with United.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I respect you know what we're going to talk about
all of that is way up?

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Whoa n so about last night?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yes, I went down What's up? Its way up at
Angela Yee and I'm here with my girl Linda Granger,
and we both had a similar about last night issue.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Because we were inventing these automated systems and people and
you go first.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
So I've been trying to pay the insurance on the
building in Detroit. I somehow got locked out of the account.
I think I put the wrong password in or something,
and then it locks me out. I cannot get a person,
a human being on the phone to pay this bill,
and so they keep on like sending me emails, but
I can't get anyone on the phone. Like every time
I call, it's like press this number, we need, your

(06:40):
zip code we need and it's just not working. And
it's so irritating every time I call it that I'm
on hope for so long that I end up just
having to hang up, you know, because I'm working, I
got stuff going on.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I can't get a person on the phone.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
You don't want to do that during your downtime when
you're done working for the day, Like who wants to
sit on the call for hours.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Then it's like a good time to.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Be like, I gotta pay LAK fees. Now this is
now you also I had.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
The same issue, like, you know, these text automations with
airlines is supposed to make your life easier. I'm going
to shoot this text and get this sortied. But I
was texting back and forth with a bot for like
forty five minutes, and I kept saying represented too represented text,
and they were like, no, we need to understand the issue.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
We can help. We were well equipped to help.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
He's had in a full conversation, and I'm like, so,
finally get to the forty five minute later mark and realize, no,
they can't book a flight for my daughter. Now you
still got to make a call that so I had
to talk to somebody. Andy said, they can't book a
flight for your daughter. When your kid is under three,
you can't book them a flight by themselves. So they're
not allowed to travel alone without an adult till they're five.
But Collin's already on the flight, and we already booked
his ticket. I was just trying to book hers separately

(07:37):
because I hadn't done it on time.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
So she wants to fly with her dad, but because
he is already booked.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
You can't just book her tickets and you can't get
anyone on the phone.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Right, So it was just dramatic. But it's booked now.
But after two hours of my life have been down.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Representative.

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Represent But look, it's so mad, all right, But that's
about last night.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Another thing I was thinking about.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
You know, they have this whole story about what it
means if you constantly post about each other on social media, right,
and experts are saying when people feel more insecure about
their partner's feelings, they tend to make their relationships visible.
I want to talk about what that means and what
your idea is. You know, you talk about Colin, You

(08:17):
post to Colin all of that, like I post my man,
but I don't you know.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
It's not like if you know, you know, I'm not
sending him sweet messages on social media. But we'll talk
about it. It's way up.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
You want to know my name?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
His way up at Angela yee And I'm here with
Lindsay Granger. Yes I'm back, y'all, and we're talking about
people who post a lot about their relationship. According to
reports that says they actually have bad relationships. They said,
it's fine to post once in a while, but when
someone is constantly posting, is it for validation?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I need to go through my answer of anaunci just how
much of the ratio I already looked at your page.
It's really not oh good, okay. In fact, it don't
even look like you have a man because he always.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Post me a single mom on Instagram and I don't
feel like I have.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I like, one time, okay, I take that back, I
was like forty posts I see him like, well, I'll
tell you I would dating somebody in the past that
used to argue me about how much I posted them,
So I just gave it and just posted them all
the time. It do look like because you do post
your daughter Kinsley a lot, and then I'm a single
It's like, well.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Me and Colin I picked in healthy relationships, So thank you, therapist.
So I think correctly, I am not the one that
overposts them.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Man, what about you?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
No, I really don't post him like that like in
my stories if we're somewhere together, but I don't be
like this is my man, like I don't do all
of that right, But it's not for any like real reason.
Most of my page is kind of stuff for work.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, I just tried the light on Colin yesterday. Still
now I'm like, okay, am I doing too.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Muchee back at it too. You guys travel together, you
work together.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
So I think we we got to figure out more
of our friends separate time. We're working on that part
because we hang out all the time. It's out of line.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
What about a collab? Would you do a collab post
with him?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
We've actually gotten an arguments about that because I'm like,
I don't feel this.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Like this is your post.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
But obviously if it's.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Like about our business, like it benefits us, I don't
feel this like I don't want to share.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
But so I'm working on it.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
If you really feels strongly about it, Like he was
featured in the Source magazine and I'm like, cool, post it.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm gonna repost it on my stories.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Da da da, You're necessarily a collab post. But I'm like,
I'm not even mentioning the story.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, I don't ask him.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
He didn't mention you, but I ended up collab posting
because he felt to worry about it. So whatever, I'm
opening the cloud post. It doesn't mean that much to me.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I do think sometimes it is whatever works for you.
It can be very healthy to just keep that private
because for me, I feel like every now and then
something happens and then I don't need nobody. I don't
also don't post and tag my mom like I'll put
my mom, but I don't put her page up for anything,
because I always don't want people like attacking people in
your family who are like or people close to you

(10:57):
who you're like. I'm not even trying to put them
in the middle of something. Because people can be very
nasty online, especially when.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I talk about politics, like three out of four days
a week.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, people find me under a picture of Kingsley and
be like raggedy and I'm like, no, baby.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Listen, Like I could say something like, man, it's so
sad to see ice tearing families apart, and then they
will go in on you.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like the thing with.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Colin is I will always tag him because he want
to go toe to toe with anybody in them.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
And now you got to calm him down. No, buddy's
a bosy about me. Now I gotta calm you down.
Well anyway, you know, I would love to hear what
you guys think about that eight hundred two nine fifty
one fifty call us up.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You can always leave a.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Message or on the app, you can click that microphone
and leave a message that way.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
When we come back, we have your yee tea.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
And speaking of all of this posting, let's talk about
Larsa Pippen. H she is discussing what it was like,
you know, dating and then breaking up at Marcus Jordan.
And she has a new show that came out yesterday.
We'll talk about it. It's way up show.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
She's about to blow the lid about this, but just
get it, Angelus frilling that.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yea tea, Come and get the tea.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
What's up this way?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (12:05):
But angela yee. I'm here with Linday Granger and it's
time for your yee team.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yes, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Oh so recently, Larsa Pippen was just talking about, you know,
her previous relationship with Marcus Jordan, and she talked to
the post and she said that she didn't date for
like a year after that.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I mean it was very very, very very public.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
She says, she worked on date dot com, she worked
on her businesses, she spent time with her kids, her friends.
She said she felt like her last relationship was so
public and at the end it was so draining and
she feels like, thank god I made it out of it.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
And also probably for her, like some people on reality
shows do a good job of keeping their family and
people they love out of the conversations. But they're both
for kind of famous you know, Marcus Jordan and his
own right, So it's like, how could you avoid it
in some ways? But I guess, you know, just posh
fan now, Okay, So it took her a year. Is
that a good amount of time to take.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Her new man is Jeff Kobe. You know he also
plays basketball, okay, and he's thirty one years old, and
she was working on herself and also the app that
she co founded called date dot com. You know, she
went to a party, met him, and she said things
happened naturally and organically, and she wasn't looking for it.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
So it's date like one of those hookup like you're
going to help you out, like tender like this date
because she's I feel like she was the perfect person
to work on a yeah that gets people together, especially
if this new relationship that happened organically is something that
lasts for a long time. It could be like, look,
you could being through a divorce, you could be this
type of person.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Either way, it could all work out for you.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Well her, Yeah, it is. If you're looking for love.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
It's an app called date dot Com that's supposed to
make finding love super easy, which I don't know that
you could ever guarantee that.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, lot of those people doing whatever, just whatever.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Real Housewives in Miami is back, so you can watch
that now. It came back out last night.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Exciting.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
All right, Well that is your ut when we come back.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
We have under the radar. These are the stories that
are not necessarily in the headlines. They're flying under the radar,
but you need to know about them.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Is way up?

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Yeah, news, this in the news that relates to you.
These stories are flying under the radar.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Its way up with Angela yee, I am here with
Lindsay Granger. I'm back, you back baby, and we are
ready to do this under the radar stories. So Netflix
has officially announced their release date for the Dallas Cowboys
documentary series.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yes, that is something that I know.

Speaker 7 (14:22):
These crazy Cowboys fans are going to be very into
because it's serious.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
One of my friends like, if I do something that
makes her uncomfortable during a Cowboys game, it's my fault.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
They lost.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Oh, like if I walked in front of the TV
if I And that's how Cowboy fans feel.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Well, it's called America's Team, the Gambler and his Cowboys.
The trailer came out back in December, but we now
know it's going to be released on August nineteenth.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Now we're gonna see if the Cowboys are actually as
popular on TV as they are.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Realize a good.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Point, right, And the FDA has approved lab grown salmon.
Does that matter to you as a salmon eater?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
I've just had some amazing hopefully not lab growl on
samone earlier.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
But how would you know?

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, I don't want to think that my fish is
growing in the lab.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
The FDA also has approved two companies cultured chicken in
twenty twenty two, so I guess we have that as well.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
So I mean, just here in lab growing, I already
think that we do too much nonsense to our food
and were eating way worse than most other countries. Haven't
visited a few of them, and I don't want to
eat anything that's going in the lab.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I just don't trust to people enough.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
But we'll never know, we won't. It's going to be.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
In the stone with a small writings of lab.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
All right, but that is your under the radar.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And when we come back, you know, we got the
Way Up mix at the top of the hour, Plus
Tamika Mallory.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Is going to be joining us.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Her book, I Live to Tell the Story, a Memoir
of love, Legacy and Resilience, is out right now.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
You gotta check it out. It's way up, man, she's.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Spilling it all. This is yeaty.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Way, what's up?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
It's way up with Angela Yee and Lindsay Granger is here,
and I just want to say, Linda, you broke this
story when you were on Way Up, and I want
my credit.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm not even gonna lie. It was March and I said, listen,
it's still up there. Okay.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
We had a lot of interaction with it, but I
said that Diddy's team was already talking to Trump's team
about a potential preemptive pardon, just in case things don't
go right for him.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Right and now.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Trump responded and said, a couple of days ago, I'll
be looking at it all.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Right, Well, let's get into what's going on while Diddy
is on the stand right now and the Jane Doe
is being cross examined by the defense.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
This is one of his ex girlfriends, Caress, Yes, And
I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I would consider this one of his girlfriends though he knew.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
All his girlfriend somebody he was dealing with, we're messing
with for a long time, or had a situationship.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
She acknowledged yesterday that texting hotel night was fun, but
she said those feelings were for combs. It wasn't supposed
to be for the entertainers that she hired to come
and be. There was two entertainers, two men that they hired,
and she was reading allowed some text messages between her
and Diddy. He texted her to call a specific person

(16:59):
and then said or Paul is free, and then she
liked the message.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
And you know, previously she had.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Said she wasn't really in the mood for all of that,
but then it looks like she was saying that it
was fun and she wanted him to take her out
and romance her. She said she received any type of
affection from him with open arms. She said, my circumstances
were my options in this relationship. If I see him,
there is a request for a hotel night. So I'm
just adapting to my circumstances. I'm adapting to my environment.

(17:27):
So she's saying the reason that she organized these things
was because she was under pressure by him, and she
said that she was hurt after being made to have
sex at three guys, but she also texted him that
she loved her birthday.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
People are like, how is this connecting the dots to
trafficking and all the other things he's charged with, because
so far they're just trying to show a pattern of
coercion and behavior with people that were considered employees that
did things to aid some of these situations. So if
you look at what might have been happening in her
alleged hotel room activity or what happened with Cassie, there
are people who were on the job and on the clock,

(18:01):
including even Cassie herself, that in some ways, if that
is your boss to subordinate relationship, doing these things not
only illegal, but then it goes into another category, which
is what they're trying to prosecute him for so you know,
I'm just watching it all play out because obviously the
defense is pushing back really hard on everybody, but the
prosecution also, I'm assuming, has a clear laid out plan

(18:22):
about why they're calling these people and what exactly adds
to the story. Besides, you know, people are like, Okay,
so Diddy's freaky.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, because she's reading these text messages aloud. She said,
I love you so much as my friend, my lover,
and my boyfriend, even though you don't like that word
according to the message, And she actually was crying on
the stand while she was reading this and getting very emotional.
I'm talking about these hotel nights and how much she
loves spending time with him. I see a lot of
conversations with people being like, oh, well, she made this choice, right,

(18:53):
So what are we talking about here? I see people
saying that in the comments. But I think we'll see
as more things unfold. We will definitely keep you updated.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
I know Armand Wagans is coming in tomorrow and he's
been there present at the.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Trial every day day.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
That's your source, So we're gonna give you a little
update from somebody who's actually physically been there.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right, well that is your yee t.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
And when we come back, we have asked yee eight
hundred two nine two fifty one fifty.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Any question you have. We're here to help its way up.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
It's relationship for career advice. Angela's dropping facts you should.
This is ask gee what's up?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
His way up? At Angela?

Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yee.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I'm here with Lindsay granted, thanks for being here for
day two. Of course I'm excited and it's time.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
For ask yee eight hundred two nine two fifty one fifty.
We're here to answer any question. And we have somebody
who wants to remain anonymous, so you know it's good.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yes, Hey, what's up?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
How you doing going on?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
I'm good, I'm good. How's everyone there?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
We're feeling good. Thank you for asking. You have a question.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
So I work a lot. My career is very very
important to me, but I often find myself being tired,
missing family events, forgetting to reach out to friends.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
So I just want to know how can I balance.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
My friendships and family with my work life without making
them feel neglected?

Speaker 4 (20:13):
You know, I think my dad always tells me you know,
don't expect a friend if you're not being a friend,
And so you got to try to invest in those
relationships because when your partner gets on your nerves, when
your kids get on your nerves, you still have friends
and those are all important relationships. And so they have
to understand a season that's busy, but if a season
becomes like five years of we haven't seen each other, well,
then you are my associates probably.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
And there's so many ways to stay in touch too
that don't have to necessarily be like in person. And
sometimes that does mean like I can call you not
because I need something, but just to say, hey, I'm
just checking on you, how you doing.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
And we'll even do like this is a group of
girls I want study abroad with. I haven't seen them
probably in two years, but every once a month on
the first Tuesday, we do a phone call.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, thirty minutes.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, And that actually turns out to be really fun.
Group text messages with your friends are also good, Like
my group text.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Message from high school. It be kind of lit sometimes.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
And you can't answer everything.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
You just jump in when you can, but don't feel like,
you know, not participating.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Because it's a group of them.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
So if one of y'all ain't answering is fine, there's
the rest of them that can go crazy.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's true. Are your friends mad at you?

Speaker 6 (21:17):
Well, it's not that they're mad at me.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
But I kind of feel bad on my end, especially
when it comes to my family.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Because my family is very family orientated, Like we do
a lot of things together. We have a lot of
events and like they have committees, and I feel bad
that I can't make meetings because I'm working or I'm tired.
So it's just things like that, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah, And I will say family is a little bit
different from me. As I get older, I'm like, I
need to show up for families like I need to
try to do that.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, you do need to make some prioritization at times,
because I think sometimes we work with other responsibilities, we
put that last because we know that we take for
granted that they'll always be there for us. So you
don't want to have those regrets that you miss some
really important milestones.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
And so you know, just make.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Sure if it's a holiday or a birthday or something
that you really should be there for, make it a priority.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
And I'll ask my mom like, how important is this
to you? And she'll tell me because she makes everything
seem like I must be there. Yeah, so just be
like how important it? She'll be like, this is really
important and then I'll make it.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Make it.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yes, I'm gonna start doing that. I'm gonna start acting that,
like how how important is this to you? If I
show up? Thank you so much, ladies. I really appreciate
the advice.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (22:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
All right, Well that was ask ye, Thank you so much, lindsay,
that was great advice.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
What I try my best?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
All right, Well, when we come back, we have Tamika
Mallory and coach Jesse joining us. We'll be talking about
Tamika's buck I Live to tell the story, a memoir
of love, legacy, and resilience.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You are gonna love this conversation. She's so amazing.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, she just is somebody who just is consistent and
thorough and you got to just appreciate her no matter what.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
You just got to appreciate people like that.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I write its way out and be one of mes
to train us women at radio audio.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
We're talking about Angela ye. You're way up with Angela yee.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Please believe that.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
What's upe's way up with Angela Yee.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I'm here with my good friend coach Jesse, and look
all my good friends again. Linday Granger's here, she's been
guest hosting, and of course the birthday girl in the Flashy.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Birthday, Anika Valory is here.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
And we've been talking about this because you're a book.
I live to tell the story.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
When I tell you, I thought I knew you and
like they used to stay on MTV, but you have
no idea. And this memoir of love, legacy and resilience
is so amazing.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
You know, some of the book has a lot of
shame in it. You know, for me, moments when I
felt ashamed of certain things, and so it felt good
to like get it out, but to also be on
the other side of so much of it.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Just even thinking of a young Tamika and things that
you went through, and I know for some parents reading
the book they have teenage daughters, it made me reflect
on how I was too as a kid, because I
was a mess. And the friends that you think of
your friends at the time, and the boys that you
think care about you, and the situation to go through
rebelling against your parents who at the time, they're trying

(24:10):
to do the best that they can for the best
they can as far as raising you, trying to protect
you from the outside world. But sometimes there is nothing
a parent can do when you're determined to be outside.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Absolutely, and you know my parents experience that. At my
birthday party, I said to them publicly, thank you for
not leaving me, for never leaving me, because they could have.
I was ridiculous, like ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
I was a runaway.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
I always, you know, dropped out of school, everything you
could think of.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I was just a mess right all. Everywhere I go.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
People ask on book tour, They're like, what's the one
thing that you would tell your younger self or some
young person, And I say, listen to your parents and
listen to your mother. My mother used to say, I
don't like that little girl. Don't bring her back in
my house or energy.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
I don't like it.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
And she just wish she has my everything that my
mother told me. Everything came to pass in one way
or the other.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Right now, I am with a Lindsay Granger and coach Jesse.
Where are talking to Tamika Mallory.

Speaker 8 (25:11):
Here you were in a situation where you had boys
who you trusted.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Nearly gang rape there, right, you.

Speaker 8 (25:17):
Talk about it in the book, and that kind of betrayal.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Not boys who were antagonistic, but your friends. My parents
did not know that that particular incident occurred. My dad
would say all the time, do not go to any
boy's house. And then I went to this boy's house
and he had three other boys there, and all of
them had different conversations with me, and they tried their

(25:42):
best and tried their best to talk me into it.
Big old dog in the house. I'm scared to death,
clos crying close, disheveled. And the boy's mother came in
the house and looked at me and said, what is
this little girl doing in my house? And she was like,
get yourself together and get out. She never took her
eyes out of my eyes. As I think back over it,

(26:04):
God only knows what her experience was in life that
had her like, damn this, this girl is about to
experience something. I'm here to catch it as a mother
of the boy who is orchestrating it.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
To add more trauma onto that.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Your best friend, who you thought was your best friend
at the time, then spreads the rumor about you.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
The God so then she goes out and spreads that.
You know, I'm basically out here letting people run a
train on me. A lot of what we do as
young women is just trying to be cool.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
All right.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Tamika Mallory is here, Lindy Granger is guest hosting. Coach
Jesse's in the building. We got more when we come back.
It's way up.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (26:49):
As way up with Angela Yee and of course my
girl Lindy Grange has been here guest hosting for the.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Past two days.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
We got Coach Jesse here, and we got the amazing
Tamika D.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Mallory.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
This is the cost of courage for you because and
then also, what would you tell people that, you know,
everybody's not an activist. Some people don't even know how
to jump in some of these conversations or fights. You know,
we all know kind of what we would do, but
there are some young people that don't know how to
get in this conversation without risking losing jobs.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And like, so what's yeah, right?

Speaker 5 (27:19):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (27:20):
It's funny because I tell people all the time, they
think that I'm gonna say, like, you know, shut it
down everywhere you go.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
God, stand up.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
I'd be like, don't you lose that job now? And
they're trying to argue with some folks every.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Day and doing it.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
You better go to work and do your job and
work towards being an entrepreneur, or work towards getting in
a place where you can be yourself.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
You can speak up.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
But guess what, because of me being so outspoken and
now being labeled as controversial and all the things, I
can't take those skills to go work for ex company because.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
They're not going to hire me.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
I tried to presence three years ago at Sachs in
like Bloomingdale's.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I applied for the position because I'm really good at rapping,
I said, Bruh.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
One of those stores contacted me to be like this
is not gonna happen, not gonna like.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Why are you over?

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Are you crying this position?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Miss Mallory Misma.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
So even though that might be funny because it was funny,
my friend was like, girl, please, why did you even apply?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I can't, but is it not funny? If I was
seriously in.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Need of the job right now, I am with a
Lindsay Granger and coach Jesse are talking to Tamika Mallory. Now,
I do want to ask you about something else in
the book that you mentioned right. This was an instance
fourteen years old where you were raped by somebody that
you knew, but still have to see that person at
times and kept it cordial even though it wasn't. And
you said you can understand people who don't because you

(28:51):
went through this.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
And he was going to be a basketball star.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
I'm thinking to myself, damn if I tell this story,
this might ruin his career. Then I started being like
my parents told me, don't be going to the boys housing.
So now it's kind of my fault because I shouldn't
have been here. All of that stuff played in my mind.
I was at an event. A group of women came
with a little girl, and so at the end she

(29:15):
stood up.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
And said she wanted to ask a question.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
And so she said, well, I've been sitting here reading
your book, but you say in here that you didn't
tell anybody. And she said, now as that you're older,
would you do something different? But in my mind, I'm thinking,
I don't want my dad to.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Go to jail. Are they gonna believe me?

Speaker 7 (29:32):
But what I said to her in response was, Oh,
if I could do it again, I would definitely tell
because what I realized in hindsight is that he had
to be doing it to somebody else. So if I'm
a young woman, I mean, I just feel like we're
creating a society that further cements the idea that if
you speak out about your pain, people are going to

(29:54):
accuse you of something. You know, So it's not a
healthy environment for young women or men men. God bless
what they've gone through that no one knows about the
sexual assault from the babysitter or the on or whomever.
No one knows about that, no one knows they're being
beaten by their wives, and if they come forward made

(30:14):
fun of, oh heck, yeah, you can't. You know, no
one knows about that. They don't feel comfortable sharing those things,
all right.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Tamika Mallory is here alongside coach Jesse, and I got
Linday Granger by my side.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Love that for me.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
And when we come back, we normally would be doing
last Word, but instead we have some more with Tamika Mallory.
That's how great this book I live to tell. The
story is we got more conversations. It's way up, way up.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
With Angela Yee. More, now what's up as way up
with Angela Yee.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I'm here, Linday Granger is here, and Coach Jesse's here,
and Tamika D.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Mallory is here.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
All of us are in the building. This book I
live to tell. The story is out right now, this
is Tamika's memoir.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
But yet and still you took everything that you went
through and you openly shared it, and that was so crazy.
Just something you mentioned about depression, right, you said in
the book you didn't even know that you were depressed. No, right,
going back to where you were in that place, how
did you get help?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh, thank you God for help. Thank you God for
the rough days.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
The rough days, unfortunately, is where I learned how to
take care of myself.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
You know.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Another saying by my mentor, she said to me, God's
address is in the dark.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
That's where he lives. Like when you're in a dark space,
that's where you find God.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
I said, wow, And it's so true, because that rehab
facility it was so dark.

Speaker 8 (31:37):
So the rehab was because during depression you were the pills.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
Everybody at the same time, I'm acting like, yeah, remember
connected us we want you to.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Get the book.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
So going to rehab, which I have to give you know,
so much love to my sister Rachel nord Lingo, who
dropped me off, took me to it was there's a
picture of us that she sends me every year. We're
inside of the facility and she's about to lead wow,
and she sends me that picture every year to remind
me of how far I've come, you know, since twenty nineteen.

(32:08):
And Jason Williams, the NBA All Star, sent me to
rehab under an alias.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
I didn't have to pay one dime.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
Put me in a program which I later found out
was eighty thousand dollars, and I was like, give me
eighty thousand dollars when I'll go home and see if
I had to work it out, you know, the therapy
there like shoot. But it was there that the therapists
would come and he would ask me questions, which I
talk about in the book. By the way, even though
I was under an alias, all of the staff knew

(32:37):
exactly who I was or who I am, and so
when he asked the question, he was being very intentional
and he was trying to figure out why are you here?
And I'm like, well, I want to get sober, you know,
I just gave a very generic answer. But all night
I sat with that thing, why are you here? And
that next day I was really busted out and I said,

(32:59):
my life is in shambles, the relationship between my son
and I, it's a mess. Everything around me is falling apart,
and I need to get myself together. And later on
he pulled me to the side and said, everything that
you're going through in this moment, you need to recognize.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
That it's okay to take care of you.

Speaker 7 (33:19):
So I just quote in the book that says I
was born fighting for freedom and I will die fighting
for freedom, but this time freedom includes me. So trying
to center myself in the midst of that, and that's
how I'm getting help. That therapy is important, and I
don't just have a therapist. I have a psychiatrist. And
because the stigma around needing medication to deal with different issues,

(33:44):
there is a stigma that makes you feel like you're crazy,
especially in the black community. It's like, oh, you need
to take this, Oh oh you're on that. But I've
never been better in my life that I have help
for anxiety, that I need I need it every day.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
So listen.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I love to tell the story love, legacy, and resilience.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Tamika D. Mallory, We thank you so much. I appreciate
you've had and it's the right time.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's my birthday.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, thank you so much too, Tamika D. Mallory And
to coach Jesse for joining us. Thank you Lindsey for
guest hosting for these past two days.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Welcome.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
I love coming up here. It's just like a nice
breath of fresh air. You guys are really the best
in the business.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well, I'm looking forward to seeing you more, but of
course you'll have a great day.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'll be back tomorrow.

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