September 9, 2025 • 23 mins
Young Jonn Talks “Che Che,” Love Life, Heartbreak, His Debut Album Blue Disco + More
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up this way you put into Ye, I'm here
with my girl Jasmine Brand. You know how we do.
We already got young John feeling like, damn, what am
I getting myself into? How do we feel?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Fine? I'm feeling good. It feels good to be happy,
to be in great company.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So okay, See, he is so charming, just like we knew.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
He knows what he's doing clearly.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But you know, I just love to hear about your journey.
Just doing my research on you and seeing how you
even got started in the music business is amazing. And
I want to ask, before you were doing music, what
did you think he would be doing?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
To be understand, I wanted to play so card like
you know, I wanted to play football. I think I
was decent, pretty decent, you know. But then I went
to school, made a couple of friends, found ourselves in
the studio, started smoking week.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes, we helped him. Football is out.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The football brother was like it was they were just
at the studio every time. That was it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So you're just in the studio, just playing around, hanging
out with friends, and that's what initially starts.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And so I used to like always make beats love
from my laptop, so like it was. It was kind
of fun at first. Then going to school, I realized
that people wanted the people need their beats. You know,
people were willing to give him money for What kind.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Of money were you making when first started.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I don't talk about, but like it made me realize
that there was value to it. Yeah, so then I
took it seriously. Then like a joke, I started working
with like big artias. Then I produced a couple of
big red.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's so crazy to me that you could, like a
joke just start working with big artists. Were you How
good were you there at football?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think I was pretty different, Like I was good,
like I used to go go you know.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Do it again now because you know people always be like,
you know, I was gonna play in the NBA. I
was like got injured and something happened. You know, I
think you would have made it.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I think if I was so one thing about
me though, like if I put my mind so well,
I believe it. But I put my mind to anything,
I always find a way around this tomorrow somehow, like maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, So then you started going to the studio. You
had some beats that you have been playing around with
on your computer and people needed be so you were like, okay,
I got some beats for you. Sometimes that's also a
little intimidating when you're not so good, because when you
first start making beats, a it's a practice that you have. Yeah,
so at first you may not be as good, but
you got to build it up. Were you a little
(02:23):
nervous to approach people with beats at first?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So, to be honest, like being nervous was out of
it because I wasn't approaching anybody, you know. I was
just doing my thing that my my brother used to
wrap on my cousin. So I make beats for them,
three of us who first started rapp you know. Then
some guy these beats who were really young. So the
guy was just impressed that these young boys who take
their money and come to the studio and come on,
(02:48):
do this, do this. Then my brother's not ready to
go to school. And I was like, you, he has
a cousin in legals, I just to do that looking
for young I'm like, I'm not really, I'm just leaning
and said it doesn't matter, like just come. So I went.
I left Oma. I was about fifteen. I went to
Legos and then I started working in the studio, started
learning on fifteen. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
What did your parents think about that?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Because my mom my mom was definitely know our people,
like I feel like she always knew like I was
on this special journey. So she was just like, Okay,
just do whatever you got to do.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Wow, that's really supportive. Yeah, and she obviously she saw
the vision.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah she did. She definitely did, you know, because
she let me just do my thing. She was send
me money when I now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I want you to be honest during this time in
the back of your head where you like, I'm gonna
also be an artist.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
No, honestly, I had no idea I was going to
be an artist, you know, like the production thing seemed
like it was possible to me. So I wasn't seeing
beyond that. You know. It was just like making beats
and a lot of that. Then, especially when I got
to legals and I started meeting big artists, you know,
then we're like, oh, this young boy producers, we like it.
She just I think you got it. So I started
putting more work, like I really took it serious, you know.
(03:59):
So I wasn't thinking about being anatist at.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
The time, because sometimes you end up doing stuff or
sometimes even selling a bit, you think about what you
wanted to sound like yeah, and maybe you know people
do reference tracks. Were you doing reference tracks?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah? Yeah, lor is that how it started? So, I mean,
so I used to do a lott of reference tracks
for artists, like right for them, but I wasn't really
thinking about putting on If I did an interview where
I was asked I was never going to put out
my music, I said no, you know, but like twenty nineteen,
kind of twenty seventeen when I lost my mom, So
like I used to spend a lot of time by myself,
(04:32):
I wasn't really going for my studio sessions with all
the artists anymore. So I had a lot of music
lying around just on my laptop, like for nobody. So
the whole time I put it out and then the
reaction was like crazy, ever, like you need to start,
you need to start, And then kept doing that putting
on my music.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You know, It's also the access that you had as
a producer to know that, like, these people really mess
with me and we're cool. So I know you also
got to know like if I want to do something,
then I gotta and you have like the heaviest hitters
that you can actually collaborate with.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Even the first song that really blew up was Data, right, Yeah,
And we got to talk about that because I'm trying
to figure out how smooth you really are. So I
want to even hear the inspiration of Data because I
got to think something was going on in your life
at that point where you were spoiling somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I was spoiling somebody depths to understanding, you know, so you.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Were somebody's data.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
When you know that song, I mean, like everybody's always
somebody's No, we.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Want we want to know what we want about you,
not everybody want what inspired that? Like, what's that about?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
To be honest, when I when I did that song, like, yeah,
I was, I was in a little I was quite
a couple of different talking stages, I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know, a couple of different ones.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Talking stages like it was deep. Like so you can
that to me.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Multiple women talking stages, no talking stages, talking guy that
had multiple kids, So you were different, you were talking
different guys.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You prepare for you, guys.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I'm trying to help you. So you were talking to
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
In a couple of I was in any commentary relationship
all the time. I mean prior to that, I liked
someone and the persson didn't reciprocates my my gestures. So
like I was just out there, you know, So like
that as a song was stupid. I would say, it's
just about one quessions about like different experiences, their fish
of out. Different people made me few at different times,
(06:37):
and I just put it all into the song. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So when the person that you like didn't reciprocate, was
that was before the song came out? Then after that
did she then try to come back around, because you
know that happens. Yeah, she did.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
What was yours?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That feel good?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No, funny enough. I'm like, it's it's fine, it's all good,
come on home.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What was the first big placement that you had as
a producer.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
As a producer, it was a Lammi Day. Oh yeah, yeah.
Alami Day is like really big artists.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
We know who a Lami Day is and I know
you work with a Lami Day a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, so like he's the first really big artist that
gave me. I was really young. I feel like he
had no reason to put me on but like he
just saw the vision and he knew that there was
something like there, you know, so we always called me
we will go to this scribe will make music and
all die. But yeah, the first big placement was fourteen
Story for the Girls A Lammy Day. That's the first
song I produced that went mainstream. It went crazy, like
(07:37):
from release, it went crazy and from then, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
How did you get the tag the wicked producer?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was my friend was my friend. He was like, yeah,
we kept producer, we kept producer. And then there's another friend,
our friends I used to work in the radio. She
was in the studio and she was like, this would
make a good tag, and we told her to record
it and she recorded.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It, and that's a great tag. It's still like every
time you're hear we know who it is. How is it?
How is it different for you when you're working on beats,
if you're working on something for yourself versus other people?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So my process of creation, and I don't really say
I don't like to when I'm creating, I really don't
like to put it in my mind if I'm working
for someone or working for myself, because I feel like
that kind of like I don't know, so I kind
of just walk.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know, just make a dope beat and then exactly
exactly so.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
After you finish a doupte beat, then do you say like, okay,
this is for me or I have somebody else like that?
You decide or how do you?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Funny enough, most of my songs I never produced by me,
apart from like this Last Time with Chair and the
couple the ones you know, I like to when I
make it beat and I feel like, okay, this is
something I want for myself. A lot of times are
calling like new producers, you know, the new boys like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That really you keep all the money.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Know, I kind of just give them the idea that
they kind of like bring it to the new school vibe.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
What is changing anyway in cha chack? Because the song
with a Sock that you have out right now is
like a slack forul check.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know what it make up on flick check okay,
good check, take picture check check is like.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, I'm pretty check that off.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
We were trying to figure it out, we were it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I mean it sounds like an affirmation.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah yeah, you know, like check check check check.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But if you double check it, it's like extra good,
you got your money right, He's about to say che
cha okay, And you know, how did it feel for
you knowing that, like you reached so many milestones to
twenty twenty four was an amazing year for you. Also,
Jerky Forever forty weeks on Spotify's top ten and it
(09:47):
had two hundred I think at one point two hundred
million streams. It was a huge, huge record for the year.
How did you feel when you realize, like this is
not just working, it is overly working.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, like, you know, everything is the journey. So
I feel like with every milestone, it like fails your
drive for like the next face, you know. So like
when we drop that project and I started seeing attraction
that I was coming with it, like it kind of
made me believe that I can't do even much more.
So I was kind of failed like a new drive,
(10:19):
you know, new milestones, new goals. So yeah, that's basically
what that did for me.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You know, people always look at you and think that
you're like very private and you don't like to give up,
but there's times on stage that there's been People always
speculate on like who you're dating and who you're with
how is that aspect of it for you? Because this
is not something you really pursued necessarily. But there's a
lot of things that come with it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, I mean a lot of things come with everything.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know, he's so good at this politician.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, but like honestly, yeah, we're talking about relationships and
all of that right now. The point that I'm in life,
I mean, everybody loves love. Love is wonder football. I'm
not really in that space where I can give so
much trot, my persion, to so much of myself to
one person. So I'm just keeping it like.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
OnlyFans something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean, that's far fished, not only fine, but you
know coming you know what i mean. You know, sometimes
you just want to like he's.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Like, let me talk to jas.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Maybe she's gone out of that time. You seem like
you're judging me already, Get what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You know, sometimes she just you don't want anything serious.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah no, No, Like I feel like I won't be
able to give that person as much as I'm supposed to,
so why to them in that situation?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, Okay, that's very generous of you. Have you tried
it though, and then failed at it? Like you tried it, okay,
was it something that like hit the headline? You know,
did it make news?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And it's quite complicated.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Because it's also different like let's say somebody else as
an artist and then you'll like do a music video
together or something, and then I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Know, like it's just quite complicated. Let me leave it
like that. You know, well for now, trust me, I
feel like I can't. I've come to terms with the
fact that I can't get at this point in my life,
I can't give someone as much as they deserve because
a lot of times always like oh, then I realized,
because it's not like they're asking for too much, do
you understand?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like maybe, and why is that because you're too busy
with work?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I wouldn't put it. I wouldn't say it's about being busy.
It's just like where I am right now in my head,
like mentally, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, you want to have fun right now?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, perform even I can't just give you that thing
you want like that for seven attention on that, Like
my mind is not there, like I'm probably thinking about, oh,
my next project, like you know, I'm thinking about this,
I'm thinking about coming to New York to me, angel,
I'm thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's smooth.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
As the questions like a politician, right, but.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You know what I mean, somebody equally as busy as
you though.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, but like I feel like I wouldn't be you
know what.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think it's good when people can admit, like, I
just am not in the space to be able to
do this right now. You know, and even though you
may be passing up on an amazing person, it's you
also don't want to dog them out? Have you ever
been dogged out?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
When she dog like as a girl?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Ever cheated on you or did you dirty? Or broke
your heart?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah? They broke my like several times. Man, Like I'm
a fraud. You guy told you like once, Yeah, they
broke ship.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
You said several times?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I don't want you just trying to get sympathy up here. Okay,
what now? For real? You really had your heart broken?
Not like in sixth grade. I'm talking about as an adult.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay, if this would make it, I grew up really fast,
so I became an adult really fast, so I didn't
need it. That works, But like really reallyeal in life, honestly,
I really like this, Like I liked it, like in
my edge, you know, like the movie kind of Love.
I swear like I like this girl, but like she
liked somebody else, you know. And I'm a kind of
(14:01):
person that I don't really know to like talk artic lord,
I don't need to. And I was younger. I say
it was war so I couldn't really communicate my feelings
fast and they were fast faster than me. And I
really broke my ass honestly, like I felt like. And
then but one thing though, like I realized that I
didn't die. I was fine, So I was like, Okay,
probably in life, you can't have everything you want.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay, it's a good lesson, you know, like sometimes how
were you when that happened? I was like fourteen, but
in all finished in fifteen he moved and wenttal Legos and.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's still and it's still still affects him because I
feel like he's going back to that place.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So he's telling the story.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You guys, but like you did, so I feel like that. Yeah,
so I just realized, Okay, you like this person, but
you don't necessarily need to push something with this person
if you like them, like he's probably not meant to happen, like, yeah,
that's life.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh you were fourteen, please like yeah, wele trust me
like it hurt a matter effect to him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
He grew up fast.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Today.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Now you also signed a deal with Chocolate City. Yeah,
and that's one of the labels that are very well
known for some of the artists that they have on there.
So tell me, were there a lot of different people
trying to get you to sign at that time?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, so, at the time, at the time, I was
still trying to decide whether this music being an artist
was something I wanted to dive into like one hundred percent.
I mean, I was doing it, I was producing, like
I was having fun with life, you know, but then
it was that was like a crossroad for me. So
when I finally decided I wanted to do this, you know,
(15:35):
that was not necessarily the option for me. But at
the time it made sense to me, you know, because
I didn't want to take a deep dive there to
like just you know, so and at the point it
made sense to me and someone convinced me my mind, yeah,
am Like I was like, okay, let's let's let's do it.
(15:56):
And then we did it, and glory to God from
the first release, everything went.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like it was the right decision. Yeah, no, that's great.
What's part of the deal. Did they think that you
would also be working with some of the artists on
the label, because I find that sometimes labels want to
sign somebody who has the talent of being a producer
because that's something that they could use also in house.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah. I mean, like, to be honest, I've not produced
any song for anybody on the lit Do.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You still want to produce like that?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like, I'm not so keen on it, but I enjoyed producing,
like like I enjoy it, you know, like you know so,
but like yeah, definitely, I'm always available, so I teach
when they need my opinion on this or da or yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Now what is blue disco?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Your blue discool? Blue discool is a it's a feeling.
Actually wrote a poem for Blue Dischool without share that day.
I want to hear it, Are you sure? Yes? We
absolutely long ago.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's fine, we have time.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I was keeping it for like, well, I think, yeah,
let me read for you guys.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I want to hear this poetry, ladies.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's right, you hear it all right? So goes like this,
are you ready, yes, drum roll, okay. We rise from
concrete crack or bold, built from anger, gret and gold.
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Chill swells, but we don't fold. We move and reading
Blue Disco, Long night's turn, long nights on with tireless breadths,
chasing dreams, defined, death, sweat and silence. Shape was next
grace in motion, Blue Disco. You came to field, but
now you know there's no escape from Blue Disco just
shadows words into to toe. So siep the dark and
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embrace the slow scars and shine. We wear them boats
dancing true, the dust and growths. The climb is are
the pen is O, all becomes light are Blue Disco there?
This is no temple for the pure, but the broken
came yet to endure. The reading is rough, but the
pen is pure. A truth will dance to, not a kill.
So when they ask us how did we survive, we
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say we danced, we bombed, and we stayed alive in
the wreckage where we find out glow or become slighter.
Blue DISCOO, I was amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I didn't expect. I mean, I don't know why didn't
I didn't know if you were joking, And then you
that gave us all this.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, yes, that's basically blue School.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So is that something you created?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, it was so. My my brother and my friends
we are really into like this motion, you know, like
we really bring our es together to like make really Yeah,
that's where this came out.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's like whole feelings, like a vibe. Yeah, it's kind
of like, oh, I can't even explain what it is.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's like it's like you're saying, like the pain and
everything is what's going to make us into what we're
going to be, you know. So the disco is you know,
the disco is the dance, like the dances, the dance
of pain, the dance of whatever it is you're going through.
You just have to dance through it. And when you're
done with all of this, it's going to make you
into like that next version of you that you're supposed
to really be.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That feels like this needs some artwork to go with
it or something nice visuals I think you need Like
I'm not gonna lie that you need like a blue
disco art show.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I like that right.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm just trying to think of the rollout because the
project is coming out, Yes it is, So when is
the when is the release date for that next month,
next month, so everything's done to our next thing.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So I'm the kind of as an artist, I know,
a create problem for my team. As an artist, I'm
very very last minute spontaneous. Next week might be like
you changing, you know. Yeah, I'm open to like one ideas.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Do you have an exact date for the exact yes?
All right? And next month is in September or October October, okay?
And the title is it is blue Disco? Okay? And
do we know like guest appearances because I know you're big.
We have the ones we've heard.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, we have Guru from India, we have Frankly from France,
so we have yeah, okay, you have a couple of records,
you know, and.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You're keeping some things under wraps.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I do like that cash Flow song though with whiz Kid.
Well we're talking about having a well I guess it
starts off with you talking about having a hard life,
but now you live sof and that's the standout line. Really,
That's how I feel like my life is. I'm trying,
although I feel like I still have a hard life.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Hard life is as hard as relative.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's relative because a lot of things that you wish
for and that you work for and if you want
to maintain that. I feel like you never get to
where you want to be. It always feels like every
time you get somewhere, there's like another level unlocked.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's a valid point, but you look like you're living that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Chanel says, otherwise, Oh, this is fake.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean it is, but I will say that it's like,
but you know, and Jasmine will tell you it's true.
I work all the time, and I'm sure you do too. Yeah,
you know, like you're probably always in the studio, on tour,
on the road. You know, poor you. You haven't had
time to really settle down in a relationship. You got
your heart broken fourteen, right, Like, I've been treat but
(21:15):
I do feel like sometimes we're like when do you
feel like, like, do you feel like right now you've
made it?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Made it to the big wood. So I won't say
I've made it, but like, yeah, I see like I'm
better than where I was yesterday and keeps getting better
and but I keep walking. I'm definitely one D. I'm
going to see it. Yes, I made it, but.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You're not there.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yet far from it, I promise you.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
When do you think you'll know? Like what is there
a space where you're like this is when I know?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, I guess I wouldn't know it to like
to until you get there.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I guess you don't have like a you know, a
goal that's like once I have X, Y and Z,
or once I can Who was it that was telling me?
They said the fact, oh, Sierra was like I can
pay all my bills. I don't even to think about that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, yes, so like so there is it's it's don't
know me that this is now much more bigger than money,
because if we're talking about money, yes, I feel like
there's nothing I really want so bad that I kind
of you know, but it's not really about that because
that's even after I made so much money in the past.
I've been on the road for three years straight doing
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shows a rope like, so the next thing I can
see it compared to before I made like money, you understand,
but like it doesn't kill that feeling of like I
don't know, you know, like that oh it's not it's
not done yet, so like I know that, Okay, there's
still a long way to go. So it's really not
about the Money's probably like the satisfaction that comes with
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like it's in some particular personal goals and milestones. And
I don't know, maybe when I don't know, maybe some
day when they start referring to me as one of
the greatest artists that come out of the continent, maybe
that's saying that.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yes, I like that. That's some people are scared to
say things like that and put it in the atmosphere.
But that's a great that's what you should want to achieve. Yeah,
for people to say you are.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The when it all said, and remember jigg like you
cannot put him like under the road, you know, because
some people always want to rewrite the street. But there
are some names that are too big too.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You know, you think if you were going to play
football right now, you still be any good?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I mean I think so.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
How them long pull a muscle?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, I think so, because I still play football every week.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's like my goals goals.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, I appreciate you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Us, really loving me so much fun Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'm glad. Next time we're gonna pressure you harder when
the album comes out because I know we're going to
get some more gems, but thank you. We appreciate you.
It was very enjoyable save me here, Thanks for having
me all right, young John
What's up this way you put into Ye, I'm here
with my girl Jasmine Brand. You know how we do.
We already got young John feeling like, damn, what am
I getting myself into? How do we feel?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Fine? I'm feeling good. It feels good to be happy,
to be in great company.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
So okay, See, he is so charming, just like we knew.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
He knows what he's doing clearly.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
But you know, I just love to hear about your journey.
Just doing my research on you and seeing how you
even got started in the music business is amazing. And
I want to ask, before you were doing music, what
did you think he would be doing?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
To be understand, I wanted to play so card like
you know, I wanted to play football. I think I
was decent, pretty decent, you know. But then I went
to school, made a couple of friends, found ourselves in
the studio, started smoking week.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes, we helped him. Football is out.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
The football brother was like it was they were just
at the studio every time. That was it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So you're just in the studio, just playing around, hanging
out with friends, and that's what initially starts.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And so I used to like always make beats love
from my laptop, so like it was. It was kind
of fun at first. Then going to school, I realized
that people wanted the people need their beats. You know,
people were willing to give him money for What kind.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Of money were you making when first started.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I don't talk about, but like it made me realize
that there was value to it. Yeah, so then I
took it seriously. Then like a joke, I started working
with like big artias. Then I produced a couple of
big red.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's so crazy to me that you could, like a
joke just start working with big artists. Were you How
good were you there at football?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think I was pretty different, Like I was good,
like I used to go go you know.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Do it again now because you know people always be like,
you know, I was gonna play in the NBA. I
was like got injured and something happened. You know, I
think you would have made it.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I think if I was so one thing about
me though, like if I put my mind so well,
I believe it. But I put my mind to anything,
I always find a way around this tomorrow somehow, like maybe.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, So then you started going to the studio. You
had some beats that you have been playing around with
on your computer and people needed be so you were like, okay,
I got some beats for you. Sometimes that's also a
little intimidating when you're not so good, because when you
first start making beats, a it's a practice that you have. Yeah,
so at first you may not be as good, but
you got to build it up. Were you a little
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nervous to approach people with beats at first?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So, to be honest, like being nervous was out of
it because I wasn't approaching anybody, you know. I was
just doing my thing that my my brother used to
wrap on my cousin. So I make beats for them,
three of us who first started rapp you know. Then
some guy these beats who were really young. So the
guy was just impressed that these young boys who take
their money and come to the studio and come on,
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do this, do this. Then my brother's not ready to
go to school. And I was like, you, he has
a cousin in legals, I just to do that looking
for young I'm like, I'm not really, I'm just leaning
and said it doesn't matter, like just come. So I went.
I left Oma. I was about fifteen. I went to
Legos and then I started working in the studio, started
learning on fifteen. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
What did your parents think about that?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Because my mom my mom was definitely know our people,
like I feel like she always knew like I was
on this special journey. So she was just like, Okay,
just do whatever you got to do.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Wow, that's really supportive. Yeah, and she obviously she saw
the vision.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah she did. She definitely did, you know, because
she let me just do my thing. She was send
me money when I now.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I want you to be honest during this time in
the back of your head where you like, I'm gonna
also be an artist.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
No, honestly, I had no idea I was going to
be an artist, you know, like the production thing seemed
like it was possible to me. So I wasn't seeing
beyond that. You know. It was just like making beats
and a lot of that. Then, especially when I got
to legals and I started meeting big artists, you know,
then we're like, oh, this young boy producers, we like it.
She just I think you got it. So I started
putting more work, like I really took it serious, you know.
(03:59):
So I wasn't thinking about being anatist at.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
The time, because sometimes you end up doing stuff or
sometimes even selling a bit, you think about what you
wanted to sound like yeah, and maybe you know people
do reference tracks. Were you doing reference tracks?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah? Yeah, lor is that how it started? So, I mean,
so I used to do a lott of reference tracks
for artists, like right for them, but I wasn't really
thinking about putting on If I did an interview where
I was asked I was never going to put out
my music, I said no, you know, but like twenty nineteen,
kind of twenty seventeen when I lost my mom, So
like I used to spend a lot of time by myself,
(04:32):
I wasn't really going for my studio sessions with all
the artists anymore. So I had a lot of music
lying around just on my laptop, like for nobody. So
the whole time I put it out and then the
reaction was like crazy, ever, like you need to start,
you need to start, And then kept doing that putting
on my music.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
You know, It's also the access that you had as
a producer to know that, like, these people really mess
with me and we're cool. So I know you also
got to know like if I want to do something,
then I gotta and you have like the heaviest hitters
that you can actually collaborate with.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Even the first song that really blew up was Data, right, Yeah,
And we got to talk about that because I'm trying
to figure out how smooth you really are. So I
want to even hear the inspiration of Data because I
got to think something was going on in your life
at that point where you were spoiling somebody.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I was spoiling somebody depths to understanding, you know, so you.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Were somebody's data.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
When you know that song, I mean, like everybody's always
somebody's No, we.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Want we want to know what we want about you,
not everybody want what inspired that? Like, what's that about?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
To be honest, when I when I did that song, like, yeah,
I was, I was in a little I was quite
a couple of different talking stages, I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know, a couple of different ones.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Talking stages like it was deep. Like so you can
that to me.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Multiple women talking stages, no talking stages, talking guy that
had multiple kids, So you were different, you were talking
different guys.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You prepare for you, guys.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I'm trying to help you. So you were talking to
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
In a couple of I was in any commentary relationship
all the time. I mean prior to that, I liked
someone and the persson didn't reciprocates my my gestures. So
like I was just out there, you know, So like
that as a song was stupid. I would say, it's
just about one quessions about like different experiences, their fish
of out. Different people made me few at different times,
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and I just put it all into the song. You know.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So when the person that you like didn't reciprocate, was
that was before the song came out? Then after that
did she then try to come back around, because you
know that happens. Yeah, she did.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
What was yours?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That feel good?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No, funny enough. I'm like, it's it's fine, it's all good,
come on home.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What was the first big placement that you had as
a producer.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
As a producer, it was a Lammi Day. Oh yeah, yeah.
Alami Day is like really big artists.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
We know who a Lami Day is and I know
you work with a Lami Day a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, so like he's the first really big artist that
gave me. I was really young. I feel like he
had no reason to put me on but like he
just saw the vision and he knew that there was
something like there, you know, so we always called me
we will go to this scribe will make music and
all die. But yeah, the first big placement was fourteen
Story for the Girls A Lammy Day. That's the first
song I produced that went mainstream. It went crazy, like
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from release, it went crazy and from then, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
How did you get the tag the wicked producer?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It was my friend was my friend. He was like, yeah,
we kept producer, we kept producer. And then there's another friend,
our friends I used to work in the radio. She
was in the studio and she was like, this would
make a good tag, and we told her to record
it and she recorded.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It, and that's a great tag. It's still like every
time you're hear we know who it is. How is it?
How is it different for you when you're working on beats,
if you're working on something for yourself versus other people?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So my process of creation, and I don't really say
I don't like to when I'm creating, I really don't
like to put it in my mind if I'm working
for someone or working for myself, because I feel like
that kind of like I don't know, so I kind
of just walk.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
You know, just make a dope beat and then exactly
exactly so.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
After you finish a doupte beat, then do you say like, okay,
this is for me or I have somebody else like that?
You decide or how do you?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Funny enough, most of my songs I never produced by me,
apart from like this Last Time with Chair and the
couple the ones you know, I like to when I
make it beat and I feel like, okay, this is
something I want for myself. A lot of times are
calling like new producers, you know, the new boys like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That really you keep all the money.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Know, I kind of just give them the idea that
they kind of like bring it to the new school vibe.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
What is changing anyway in cha chack? Because the song
with a Sock that you have out right now is
like a slack forul check.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know what it make up on flick check okay,
good check, take picture check check is like.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, I'm pretty check that off.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
We were trying to figure it out, we were it.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I mean it sounds like an affirmation.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah yeah, you know, like check check check check.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But if you double check it, it's like extra good,
you got your money right, He's about to say che
cha okay, And you know, how did it feel for
you knowing that, like you reached so many milestones to
twenty twenty four was an amazing year for you. Also,
Jerky Forever forty weeks on Spotify's top ten and it
(09:47):
had two hundred I think at one point two hundred
million streams. It was a huge, huge record for the year.
How did you feel when you realize, like this is
not just working, it is overly working.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean, like, you know, everything is the journey. So
I feel like with every milestone, it like fails your
drive for like the next face, you know. So like
when we drop that project and I started seeing attraction
that I was coming with it, like it kind of
made me believe that I can't do even much more.
So I was kind of failed like a new drive,
(10:19):
you know, new milestones, new goals. So yeah, that's basically
what that did for me.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You know, people always look at you and think that
you're like very private and you don't like to give up,
but there's times on stage that there's been People always
speculate on like who you're dating and who you're with
how is that aspect of it for you? Because this
is not something you really pursued necessarily. But there's a
lot of things that come with it.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, I mean a lot of things come with everything.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You know, he's so good at this politician.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, but like honestly, yeah, we're talking about relationships and
all of that right now. The point that I'm in life,
I mean, everybody loves love. Love is wonder football. I'm
not really in that space where I can give so
much trot, my persion, to so much of myself to
one person. So I'm just keeping it like.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
OnlyFans something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I mean, that's far fished, not only fine, but you
know coming you know what i mean. You know, sometimes
you just want to like he's.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Like, let me talk to jas.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Maybe she's gone out of that time. You seem like
you're judging me already, Get what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
You know, sometimes she just you don't want anything serious.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah no, No, Like I feel like I won't be
able to give that person as much as I'm supposed to,
so why to them in that situation?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Okay, Okay, that's very generous of you. Have you tried
it though, and then failed at it? Like you tried it, okay,
was it something that like hit the headline? You know,
did it make news?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
And it's quite complicated.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Because it's also different like let's say somebody else as
an artist and then you'll like do a music video
together or something, and then I mean, you.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Know, like it's just quite complicated. Let me leave it
like that. You know, well for now, trust me, I
feel like I can't. I've come to terms with the
fact that I can't get at this point in my life,
I can't give someone as much as they deserve because
a lot of times always like oh, then I realized,
because it's not like they're asking for too much, do
you understand?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Like maybe, and why is that because you're too busy
with work?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I wouldn't put it. I wouldn't say it's about being busy.
It's just like where I am right now in my head,
like mentally, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know, you want to have fun right now?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, perform even I can't just give you that thing
you want like that for seven attention on that, Like
my mind is not there, like I'm probably thinking about, oh,
my next project, like you know, I'm thinking about this,
I'm thinking about coming to New York to me, angel,
I'm thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That's smooth.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
As the questions like a politician, right, but.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You know what I mean, somebody equally as busy as
you though.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, but like I feel like I wouldn't be you
know what.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I think it's good when people can admit, like, I
just am not in the space to be able to
do this right now. You know, and even though you
may be passing up on an amazing person, it's you
also don't want to dog them out? Have you ever
been dogged out?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
When she dog like as a girl?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Ever cheated on you or did you dirty? Or broke
your heart?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah? They broke my like several times. Man, Like I'm
a fraud. You guy told you like once, Yeah, they
broke ship.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
You said several times?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I don't want you just trying to get sympathy up here. Okay,
what now? For real? You really had your heart broken?
Not like in sixth grade. I'm talking about as an adult.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay, if this would make it, I grew up really fast,
so I became an adult really fast, so I didn't
need it. That works, But like really reallyeal in life, honestly,
I really like this, Like I liked it, like in
my edge, you know, like the movie kind of Love.
I swear like I like this girl, but like she
liked somebody else, you know. And I'm a kind of
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person that I don't really know to like talk artic lord,
I don't need to. And I was younger. I say
it was war so I couldn't really communicate my feelings
fast and they were fast faster than me. And I
really broke my ass honestly, like I felt like. And
then but one thing though, like I realized that I
didn't die. I was fine, So I was like, Okay,
probably in life, you can't have everything you want.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Okay, it's a good lesson, you know, like sometimes how
were you when that happened? I was like fourteen, but
in all finished in fifteen he moved and wenttal Legos and.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
It's still and it's still still affects him because I
feel like he's going back to that place.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So he's telling the story.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You guys, but like you did, so I feel like that. Yeah,
so I just realized, Okay, you like this person, but
you don't necessarily need to push something with this person
if you like them, like he's probably not meant to happen, like, yeah,
that's life.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh you were fourteen, please like yeah, wele trust me
like it hurt a matter effect to him.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
He grew up fast.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Today.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Now you also signed a deal with Chocolate City. Yeah,
and that's one of the labels that are very well
known for some of the artists that they have on there.
So tell me, were there a lot of different people
trying to get you to sign at that time?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, so, at the time, at the time, I was
still trying to decide whether this music being an artist
was something I wanted to dive into like one hundred percent.
I mean, I was doing it, I was producing, like
I was having fun with life, you know, but then
it was that was like a crossroad for me. So
when I finally decided I wanted to do this, you know,
(15:35):
that was not necessarily the option for me. But at
the time it made sense to me, you know, because
I didn't want to take a deep dive there to
like just you know, so and at the point it
made sense to me and someone convinced me my mind, yeah,
am Like I was like, okay, let's let's let's do it.
(15:56):
And then we did it, and glory to God from
the first release, everything went.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Like it was the right decision. Yeah, no, that's great.
What's part of the deal. Did they think that you
would also be working with some of the artists on
the label, because I find that sometimes labels want to
sign somebody who has the talent of being a producer
because that's something that they could use also in house.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah. I mean, like, to be honest, I've not produced
any song for anybody on the lit Do.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You still want to produce like that?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Like, I'm not so keen on it, but I enjoyed producing,
like like I enjoy it, you know, like you know so,
but like yeah, definitely, I'm always available, so I teach
when they need my opinion on this or da or yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Now what is blue disco?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Your blue discool? Blue discool is a it's a feeling.
Actually wrote a poem for Blue Dischool without share that day.
I want to hear it, Are you sure? Yes? We
absolutely long ago.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's fine, we have time.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I was keeping it for like, well, I think, yeah,
let me read for you guys.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I want to hear this poetry, ladies.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That's right, you hear it all right? So goes like this,
are you ready, yes, drum roll, okay. We rise from
concrete crack or bold, built from anger, gret and gold.
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Chill swells, but we don't fold. We move and reading
Blue Disco, Long night's turn, long nights on with tireless breadths,
chasing dreams, defined, death, sweat and silence. Shape was next
grace in motion, Blue Disco. You came to field, but
now you know there's no escape from Blue Disco just
shadows words into to toe. So siep the dark and
(17:40):
embrace the slow scars and shine. We wear them boats
dancing true, the dust and growths. The climb is are
the pen is O, all becomes light are Blue Disco there?
This is no temple for the pure, but the broken
came yet to endure. The reading is rough, but the
pen is pure. A truth will dance to, not a kill.
So when they ask us how did we survive, we
(18:02):
say we danced, we bombed, and we stayed alive in
the wreckage where we find out glow or become slighter.
Blue DISCOO, I was amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I didn't expect. I mean, I don't know why didn't
I didn't know if you were joking, And then you
that gave us all this.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, yes, that's basically blue School.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So is that something you created?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, it was so. My my brother and my friends
we are really into like this motion, you know, like
we really bring our es together to like make really Yeah,
that's where this came out.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's like whole feelings, like a vibe. Yeah, it's kind
of like, oh, I can't even explain what it is.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's like it's like you're saying, like the pain and
everything is what's going to make us into what we're
going to be, you know. So the disco is you know,
the disco is the dance, like the dances, the dance
of pain, the dance of whatever it is you're going through.
You just have to dance through it. And when you're
done with all of this, it's going to make you
into like that next version of you that you're supposed
to really be.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That feels like this needs some artwork to go with
it or something nice visuals I think you need Like
I'm not gonna lie that you need like a blue
disco art show.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah, I like that right.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm just trying to think of the rollout because the
project is coming out, Yes it is, So when is
the when is the release date for that next month,
next month, so everything's done to our next thing.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So I'm the kind of as an artist, I know,
a create problem for my team. As an artist, I'm
very very last minute spontaneous. Next week might be like
you changing, you know. Yeah, I'm open to like one ideas.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Do you have an exact date for the exact yes?
All right? And next month is in September or October October, okay?
And the title is it is blue Disco? Okay? And
do we know like guest appearances because I know you're big.
We have the ones we've heard.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, we have Guru from India, we have Frankly from France,
so we have yeah, okay, you have a couple of records,
you know, and.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You're keeping some things under wraps.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I do like that cash Flow song though with whiz Kid.
Well we're talking about having a well I guess it
starts off with you talking about having a hard life,
but now you live sof and that's the standout line. Really,
That's how I feel like my life is. I'm trying,
although I feel like I still have a hard life.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Hard life is as hard as relative.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's relative because a lot of things that you wish
for and that you work for and if you want
to maintain that. I feel like you never get to
where you want to be. It always feels like every
time you get somewhere, there's like another level unlocked.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's a valid point, but you look like you're living that.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Chanel says, otherwise, Oh, this is fake.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean it is, but I will say that it's like,
but you know, and Jasmine will tell you it's true.
I work all the time, and I'm sure you do too. Yeah,
you know, like you're probably always in the studio, on tour,
on the road. You know, poor you. You haven't had
time to really settle down in a relationship. You got
your heart broken fourteen, right, Like, I've been treat but
(21:15):
I do feel like sometimes we're like when do you
feel like, like, do you feel like right now you've
made it?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Made it to the big wood. So I won't say
I've made it, but like, yeah, I see like I'm
better than where I was yesterday and keeps getting better
and but I keep walking. I'm definitely one D. I'm
going to see it. Yes, I made it, but.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
You're not there.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yet far from it, I promise you.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
When do you think you'll know? Like what is there
a space where you're like this is when I know?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I mean, I guess I wouldn't know it to like
to until you get there.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I guess you don't have like a you know, a
goal that's like once I have X, Y and Z,
or once I can Who was it that was telling me?
They said the fact, oh, Sierra was like I can
pay all my bills. I don't even to think about that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, yes, so like so there is it's it's don't
know me that this is now much more bigger than money,
because if we're talking about money, yes, I feel like
there's nothing I really want so bad that I kind
of you know, but it's not really about that because
that's even after I made so much money in the past.
I've been on the road for three years straight doing
(22:22):
shows a rope like, so the next thing I can
see it compared to before I made like money, you understand,
but like it doesn't kill that feeling of like I
don't know, you know, like that oh it's not it's
not done yet, so like I know that, Okay, there's
still a long way to go. So it's really not
about the Money's probably like the satisfaction that comes with
(22:42):
like it's in some particular personal goals and milestones. And
I don't know, maybe when I don't know, maybe some
day when they start referring to me as one of
the greatest artists that come out of the continent, maybe
that's saying that.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yes, I like that. That's some people are scared to
say things like that and put it in the atmosphere.
But that's a great that's what you should want to achieve. Yeah,
for people to say you are.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
The when it all said, and remember jigg like you
cannot put him like under the road, you know, because
some people always want to rewrite the street. But there
are some names that are too big too.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You know, you think if you were going to play
football right now, you still be any good?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I mean I think so.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
How them long pull a muscle?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, I think so, because I still play football every week.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's like my goals goals.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, I appreciate you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Us, really loving me so much fun Okay, good.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'm glad. Next time we're gonna pressure you harder when
the album comes out because I know we're going to
get some more gems, but thank you. We appreciate you.
It was very enjoyable save me here, Thanks for having
me all right, young John
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