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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Piece of the planet, Charlamagne to God here and as
we come closer to closing out this year, I just
want to say thank you for tuning into the Black
Effect podcast network. There have been so many great moments
over the past year. Take a listen to some of
those captivating moments in this special best of episode, Let's
Talk Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion to talks.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How do you not catch feelings when dealing with men?
When dating? Is it possible to not catch feelings?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, you know, women, we are emotional beings, That's
what niggas be saying. But I feel like men are
actually way more emotional than us. But sometimes we might
hallucinate a little bit. Sometimes we may get things misconscrewed
when engaging with the opposite second, So how do you
(00:59):
We've already had an episode on dating and like the
different levels of dating, But how do you actually date
without catching feelings for someone?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
But let me ask you this, Why are we dating
and not trying to catch feelings? That's what I don't understand, Like,
my whole goal is to always catch feelings.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sometimes women catch feelings with everybody that they're dating, though
that's the problem if you're not dating multiple people at
one time. I'm saying, like, if you're honing in on
this one person and you're catching feelings and they aren't,
it's a problem, is it not.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, you don't want to be the only one in
your feelings. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So I think a lot of times we may go
into relationships or situations for different reasons.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I think most women probably date with intents, Right, We're
not just out here entertaining men without the hopes of
the of the situation going to the next level. Right,
But men oftentimes are dating to have sex, that's it.
They might have five dates this week and instead of
dating one person that they really like, who they know
(02:14):
is going to give them some cucci, they're just dating
five people to see how many they can get kuci
from for the week.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But I know it's women who date five people to
have dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
All week, call those dinner wars. And that's fine too,
But at least one of those dudes she actually likes
and is probably not trying to play with like that. Yeah,
I agree, But so how do you avoid catching feelings
for someone? Isn't always entirely within your control, But here
are some strategies to help minimize the chances. And this
(02:53):
is and this could be if you're dating multiple people
and you're really trying to I feel like sometimes black
women have attached issues. It could be all women, but
I'm just saying for us, we're not used to dating, right,
which you mean you get I think from childhood we're
told to go to school, get money. We're not like
(03:16):
dating how white girls get to date at a young age.
So once we get like people, we'd be holding on
to them or really like we stay in situations, relationships
too long, let them go and move on to the
next person. So you can you know, as you're doing this,
you're you're seeing what it is that you want, what
you don't want. You're not staying in a bad situation
(03:36):
too fucking long and missing blessings and all the good shit,
missing the person you're actually supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I never took them on a date, and that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And you're hallucinating like now you're now you have feelings
with somebody who has done nothing for you, nothing emotionally,
nothing financially, nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Just dicking you down.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And if you hear it, say you know that you bitch,
you better leader, Nigga long before thee here.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But even getting dicked down, Like, how do you avoid
emotions when getting dicked down? Like I don't hallucinate even
when I'm getting good dick from somebody At the minute
I see some shit I don't like, like nowadays, and
it's it's a place I had to get to. It
doesn't happen overnight. You just turn your emotions off like
that overnight.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh No, that don't work for me. That's why I
have to be very selective about who I get my
pussy to, because as soon as he hit it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I'd be like, we love. I'm a marrial. I can
be like that one day and the next day I'm not.
So maybe there's some Gemini shit. I don't know. I
got a high tolerance for some motion. And then I'll
wake and be like I don't want this anymore, see
and I'm out cold turkey and nigga real quick.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It takes me a long time to really, really really
be locked in. But once I'm locked in, it's hard
to get me away. Like we go together, Nigga, where
you thought you was going?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It depends on how we had sex. If we use
the condom. I'm not studying your ass. Real, you start
hitting that pussy rod, you're my husband? Where are you?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
What you thought?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This one? Now? It don't make no difference for me.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Nah, It make it like I'm not studying. No condom, Dick.
I don't feel like I lost anything. It don't count.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And we use the condom all are you guys? We're back?
And I hit up AJ because I had got a
message from someone and she asked me, did I feel
like pity pussy was a real thing? Because she felt
like she just gave up some and I was like, well,
what you mean? And she shared with me how a
(05:42):
guy from her job that she communicates with and they
talk all the time and he's a really She's like, oh,
he's a really nice guy. That's how she described him.
But she like they were watching a movie or something
and his internet went out and he started like trying
to get that bulls and she ended up giving it
(06:03):
to him, but not because she wanted to. She just
pitied him. So she gave him so and she said
it wasn't good and she didn't enjoy it, but she
just felt so sorry for her, so she gave him
some Kouchie, and I was like mm mm, So it
made me think about like the idea of what pity
pussy is, and so I hit aj up so we
(06:25):
can talk about it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
What's pretty Yeah, because I've definitely given a man pity
pussy before and then I didn't talk to him again. Really,
she has to work with this guy, Yes, I have definitely.
You know it's and I talked about this on my
homeboy Von Ray's podcast, Set the record straight. How I
(06:48):
think this happens to women a lot and men may
not consider it kind of like it's almost like a
situation where you're you're in a closes setting with a man.
And this is why I'm against women. If you don't
want to have sex with a man in any capacity,
do not put yourself in a clothes setting with him.
You know, it's not technically, it's not a forced situation,
(07:10):
but if you had a choice, you probably would not
have done it. I really you should have just made me,
and you do have a choice. A lot of times
women don't know how to get out the situation though.
How do you just without hurting this man's ego? How
do you leave? You know what I'm saying, like some
women don't know like that viral and daves me. Some
women don't know how cause I can tell you in
(07:32):
that situation, like I didn't know how to just get
the fuck up out of there. I just let it
happen and I just didn't talk to him again because
you you put the pressure on so fucking heavy that
I just went ahead and had sex with you when
I really didn't want to. And maybe I would have
want to fuck you know a month from now. You
didn't let me even get to like you enough to
want to have sex with you. So now I had
sex with you without liking your ass for real, and
(07:54):
I'm out of there. Nigga blocks So it happen.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But is that pity sex or is it just like
they're almost hair nigga?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It's almost borderline kind of Yeah, r it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Sounds rapist, Can I say that?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yes? I said that before, right, so maybe you bleep it.
But it is a little bit. It's it's a great
area situation as some women end up in. And I
and I'm saying this is in my younger days, this
is not recently, because I don't think we should have
nigga to death nowadays, I'm out of there. I'm out
of there. But young girls like sometimes they don't know
(08:30):
how to find themselves out of those situations, which is
why I just don't put yourself in there in it
because if you go to a man's house like they
automatically think, think you know it's right and don't.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Like a nigga said he want to cook for you
if he is not a chef and went to culinary school,
don't go over there.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Exactly went out, you know, in the he cut his
internet off. That exactly from the app on his cell phone.
He cut the internet service. TV went out. I'm the
fuck like that. You're not about to watch Netflix to
death me? Okay, right, that's what happened. I'm pretty sure
she gave him.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Some minute, but she said it like it sounds like
because she sent me voice notes, it sounded like pity
pussy cause it was like, oh but he's so nice,
they feel so bad for him. I don't ever want
to give out Bill Johnna. That goes with that tone,
you know, and what.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Man actually wants. Like, well, actually we had a man
on who said he's okay with pitty pussy, Like here
you hear nigga hit us pussy, Like, why do you
not want the woman to also enjoy it? And I
think men know when we are giving them pitty pussy,
But do they give a fuck? I don't think so.
They don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
They don't care as long as they hitting it, they
don't care what kind it is.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
All right, y'all were back, and we want to know,
are you a girls girl?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Damn?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Do you think you're a girl's girl.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm absolutely a girl's girl.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think I am too, okay, based on the characteristics
of what a girl's girl is. But this is like
a whole new trending thing online, y'all. And anytime somebody
just does anything like to disagree with a woman, people
in the comments like, oh she is not a girl's girl. Now,
that's one thing I don't agree with. Like everybody ain't
gonna like everybody, right, you could be pleasant to everyone, right,
(10:32):
this girl, Christina Mackie, people are saying that she's not
a girl's girl, she's actually a pigmy, which I consider
the counter for girls girl tam. Thing's different, though, So
what is a girl's girl to you?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
To me? I guess a girl's girl to me is
someone who advocates for women in all ways, you know,
like even the smallest of things, just seeing a woman
walking down the street and there pretty dressing, like yes,
okay dress, you know, just just their energy, you know,
always advocating for women and spreading love.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, I call it a hype girl, because bitch, I'd
be hyping bitches up. Okay, even if I don't know you,
like I'm in your comments, like if you look good,
like hey, girl, you look good. Da da da da,
even on the streets. Those are That's what I consider
like one of the characteristics of a girl's girl.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Right, But that's the most basic, Like if you if
you fuck with another girl's man, can you call yourself
a girl's girl?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
No, No, I have. So I made a list. I
made well kind of sorder, uh, And part of my
list is like things where you might not be considered
a girl's girl if you do these things. And then
I have like the internet definition of a girl's girl.
So this I forgot where I got this from. But
a girl's girl typically refers to a woman who is supportive, understanding,
(11:58):
and friendly to wars other women, and implies a strong
sense of camaraderie and solidarity amongst women. That's a basic
definition of what a girl's girl is. I'm definitely a
girl's girl. Niggas really be trying to get me to
not be a girl's girl though, and those where like
pick mees are people who pander to men for the
(12:22):
approval of men. I have a lot of guy friends
who send me dms all the time trying to disparage
women because we talk a lot of shit about men
and women on this podcast. But I'm a black woman first,
so I'm always gonna show up for us. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's definitely if you can put somebody in position, you know,
and then take that opportunity to do it, that's definitely
a girl's girl. Now, some of these lists was almost
sound like lesbian, like the only way you could be
a girl's girl is if you like eating pussy to
you or that that's not necessarily true. Like it was
(12:57):
like girls girls like hate men and that's not true,
Like you can be a girl's girl and love men.
But all right, so you were saying that, like it's
a pick me is like someone who panders to men,
or like women who say like I'm a guys girl,
like I like, I'm cooler with guys than I am women.
(13:19):
Do you feel like they're pigmies?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, and I don't. Those are guys girls, Those aren't
girls girls, Because one of the characteristics of a pick
me would be someone who says, I don't have female friends.
That's a guys girl. I don't have female friends. I
only hang around guys. And the women I know that
you know, stand on that they oftentimes that has sex
(13:43):
with multiple of them, homeboys of theirs that you be
hanging out with, and they just be delusionaling fucking ugly
inside and out, Like I don't. I don't like women
who don't like other women. Pause. Yeah, not the palls, Yeah,
because how do you get through life without your girlfriends? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I always find it weird, Like if I meet a
woman who don't have if they wasn't a military brand,
you know, who travel like always moving, if you don't
have nobody that you grew up with as a friend,
not even one, I beside, I am bitches like that,
like where's your homegirls at? Where's your childhood friends? Like?
How do you not have any?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
When I think about the women that I no longer
have relationships with, like who I considered like best friends
at the time, they don't have any childhood friends, They
don't have any consistent friends. They have add water for
instant friends. Every three to six months, you hanging out
with a different group of people. Those are wishy washy people.
(14:47):
Like when I make friends with somebody, oftentimes I'm friend
with friends with them forever.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So oh, you know, I can't say the same. I
have relationships that I've outgrown in different ways, like not
because they're bad people or but it just wasn't As
we got older, our path just took us different places.
So I can't necessarily say that I have everybody that
(15:16):
I've been friends with, you know, some of them just
we not like that no more. And it ain't no beef,
you know, it's just life. And then I do have
relationships or I've had relationships with people where I had
to exit them for my life for whatever reason, it
just wasn't healthy. And I'm talking about people who were
close to me, you know, very close to me, and
(15:37):
I just it wasn't healthy. The dynamic was no longer
suiting my life, so I had to exit them, you know.
And people I still love very much, you know, and
I still might inquire about, you know, are they good
and I want them to be good, But bitch, I
don't fuck with you like that. You know, you don't
have people in your life like that.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I have an ex friend and who I consider a
family member. I consider her like my a sister, a
family member who I don't fuck with, who I don't
talk to no more. I don't care about her well
being and how she's doing. But she's not a good friend.
She's really not a good person, so I mean, and
she always got a different group of friends. Don't have
no childhood friends for real. That's that's weird to me.
(16:23):
And I still have stories about her friendships with other
women till this to this day, like issues and be
falling out at some point. You gotta look at you
at some point.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right right, Absolutely, I'll be falling out with bitches. But
typically we always come back together. But people don't, you know,
People either love or hate how forward I am at
times like it either is like okay, I fuck with
this or I can I can only deal with this
(16:56):
bitch in doses or I can't deal with this bitch all.
But they have. Most the people who are very close
with it still understand that even with my bluntness is
coming from a place I love. It might come off aggressive,
but it's not meant to be hurtful, and that's why
they can still fuck with me.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
This is from TikTok. It says, in some ways, the
rise of the Girls girls on TikTok is about pushing
back against the notion that we need to separate ourselves
from other women and craft personalities that are different from
those of everyone else. You know how guys do like
you're just so different from everybody else? Like how because
I can give you thirty bitches in my phone that
(17:39):
seemed just like me? Right, So it's like a tactic
that men use that creates picknies, right, Like, you're so different.
A lot of us have a lot of the same characteristics.
You know what I'm saying that when you start changing
yourself completely to suit a male, that's when it becomes
(18:00):
like pickmish, you're just going against all women, right.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's a lot of Yeah. I see a lot of
videos of women like saying all these things about what
women need to do, and some of it might be true,
but then some of it does give off this energy
that you're pandering to men, you know, in a real way,
like you need to suck his dick every day when
(18:29):
he come off from work. It don't matter what happened
on some like what like, girl, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Absolutely not, that's a pick me.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm not sucking nobody dick every.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Day, right. So these are the things I came up
with that I consider a girl's girl. So a girl's
girl literally fixes each other's crown, even when you don't
know the woman. So I if I see a woman
with like toilet tissue coming at the bathroom on her shoe,
I be like, girl, hold on, you go back out
in the club. Okay, tags sticking out. I'm talking your
(19:03):
tag and I don't know you hair out of place.
I'm fixing your hair. Those are the type of thing lass.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Is coming up your close your eye, your lash. Come,
I got some glue.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Girl, you know, like you already trying to make sure
they're crying.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Everybody on point is good?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right, Even women you don't know. With friends, you post
the best pics, bitch, even if we I look fine
as telling this picture, you look fucked up. I like
this picture. It's the only picture we got. The picture
ain't going up right, You don't look good?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It right? Right?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Right? And even catching candid photos of your friend when
you think she looking good, like girl, it's a good picture.
Stay right there, that's the girl's girl, right.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But you know what, sometimes I somebody will post a
picture of you that you they think look good at you,
and you be like, bitch right, they don't look good right,
and you should have read by me first.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Once again, thank you for tuning into the Black Effect
Podcast Network. See you in twenty twenty five for more
great moments from your favorite podcast.
Piece of the planet, Charlamagne to God here and as
we come closer to closing out this year, I just
want to say thank you for tuning into the Black
Effect podcast network. There have been so many great moments
over the past year. Take a listen to some of
those captivating moments in this special best of episode, Let's
Talk Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion to talks.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How do you not catch feelings when dealing with men?
When dating? Is it possible to not catch feelings?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, you know, women, we are emotional beings, That's
what niggas be saying. But I feel like men are
actually way more emotional than us. But sometimes we might
hallucinate a little bit. Sometimes we may get things misconscrewed
when engaging with the opposite second, So how do you
(00:59):
We've already had an episode on dating and like the
different levels of dating, But how do you actually date
without catching feelings for someone?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
But let me ask you this, Why are we dating
and not trying to catch feelings? That's what I don't understand, Like,
my whole goal is to always catch feelings.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sometimes women catch feelings with everybody that they're dating, though
that's the problem if you're not dating multiple people at
one time. I'm saying, like, if you're honing in on
this one person and you're catching feelings and they aren't,
it's a problem, is it not.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, you don't want to be the only one in
your feelings. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
So I think a lot of times we may go
into relationships or situations for different reasons.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I think most women probably date with intents, Right, We're
not just out here entertaining men without the hopes of
the of the situation going to the next level. Right,
But men oftentimes are dating to have sex, that's it.
They might have five dates this week and instead of
dating one person that they really like, who they know
(02:14):
is going to give them some cucci, they're just dating
five people to see how many they can get kuci
from for the week.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But I know it's women who date five people to
have dinner.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
All week, call those dinner wars. And that's fine too,
But at least one of those dudes she actually likes
and is probably not trying to play with like that. Yeah,
I agree, But so how do you avoid catching feelings
for someone? Isn't always entirely within your control, But here
are some strategies to help minimize the chances. And this
(02:53):
is and this could be if you're dating multiple people
and you're really trying to I feel like sometimes black
women have attached issues. It could be all women, but
I'm just saying for us, we're not used to dating, right,
which you mean you get I think from childhood we're
told to go to school, get money. We're not like
(03:16):
dating how white girls get to date at a young age.
So once we get like people, we'd be holding on
to them or really like we stay in situations, relationships
too long, let them go and move on to the
next person. So you can you know, as you're doing this,
you're you're seeing what it is that you want, what
you don't want. You're not staying in a bad situation
(03:36):
too fucking long and missing blessings and all the good shit,
missing the person you're actually supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I never took them on a date, and that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And you're hallucinating like now you're now you have feelings
with somebody who has done nothing for you, nothing emotionally,
nothing financially, nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Just dicking you down.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And if you hear it, say you know that you bitch,
you better leader, Nigga long before thee here.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
But even getting dicked down, Like, how do you avoid
emotions when getting dicked down? Like I don't hallucinate even
when I'm getting good dick from somebody At the minute
I see some shit I don't like, like nowadays, and
it's it's a place I had to get to. It
doesn't happen overnight. You just turn your emotions off like
that overnight.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh No, that don't work for me. That's why I
have to be very selective about who I get my
pussy to, because as soon as he hit it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I'd be like, we love. I'm a marrial. I can
be like that one day and the next day I'm not.
So maybe there's some Gemini shit. I don't know. I
got a high tolerance for some motion. And then I'll
wake and be like I don't want this anymore, see
and I'm out cold turkey and nigga real quick.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It takes me a long time to really, really really
be locked in. But once I'm locked in, it's hard
to get me away. Like we go together, Nigga, where
you thought you was going?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It depends on how we had sex. If we use
the condom. I'm not studying your ass. Real, you start
hitting that pussy rod, you're my husband? Where are you?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
What you thought?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
This one? Now? It don't make no difference for me.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Nah, It make it like I'm not studying. No condom, Dick.
I don't feel like I lost anything. It don't count.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And we use the condom all are you guys? We're back?
And I hit up AJ because I had got a
message from someone and she asked me, did I feel
like pity pussy was a real thing? Because she felt
like she just gave up some and I was like, well,
what you mean? And she shared with me how a
(05:42):
guy from her job that she communicates with and they
talk all the time and he's a really She's like, oh,
he's a really nice guy. That's how she described him.
But she like they were watching a movie or something
and his internet went out and he started like trying
to get that bulls and she ended up giving it
(06:03):
to him, but not because she wanted to. She just
pitied him. So she gave him so and she said
it wasn't good and she didn't enjoy it, but she
just felt so sorry for her, so she gave him
some Kouchie, and I was like mm mm, So it
made me think about like the idea of what pity
pussy is, and so I hit aj up so we
(06:25):
can talk about it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
What's pretty Yeah, because I've definitely given a man pity
pussy before and then I didn't talk to him again. Really,
she has to work with this guy, Yes, I have definitely.
You know it's and I talked about this on my
homeboy Von Ray's podcast, Set the record straight. How I
(06:48):
think this happens to women a lot and men may
not consider it kind of like it's almost like a
situation where you're you're in a closes setting with a man.
And this is why I'm against women. If you don't
want to have sex with a man in any capacity,
do not put yourself in a clothes setting with him.
You know, it's not technically, it's not a forced situation,
(07:10):
but if you had a choice, you probably would not
have done it. I really you should have just made me,
and you do have a choice. A lot of times
women don't know how to get out the situation though.
How do you just without hurting this man's ego? How
do you leave? You know what I'm saying, like some
women don't know like that viral and daves me. Some
women don't know how cause I can tell you in
(07:32):
that situation, like I didn't know how to just get
the fuck up out of there. I just let it
happen and I just didn't talk to him again because
you you put the pressure on so fucking heavy that
I just went ahead and had sex with you when
I really didn't want to. And maybe I would have
want to fuck you know a month from now. You
didn't let me even get to like you enough to
want to have sex with you. So now I had
sex with you without liking your ass for real, and
(07:54):
I'm out of there. Nigga blocks So it happen.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
But is that pity sex or is it just like
they're almost hair nigga?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
It's almost borderline kind of Yeah, r it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Sounds rapist, Can I say that?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yes? I said that before, right, so maybe you bleep it.
But it is a little bit. It's it's a great
area situation as some women end up in. And I
and I'm saying this is in my younger days, this
is not recently, because I don't think we should have
nigga to death nowadays, I'm out of there. I'm out
of there. But young girls like sometimes they don't know
(08:30):
how to find themselves out of those situations, which is
why I just don't put yourself in there in it
because if you go to a man's house like they
automatically think, think you know it's right and don't.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Like a nigga said he want to cook for you
if he is not a chef and went to culinary school,
don't go over there.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Exactly went out, you know, in the he cut his
internet off. That exactly from the app on his cell phone.
He cut the internet service. TV went out. I'm the
fuck like that. You're not about to watch Netflix to
death me? Okay, right, that's what happened. I'm pretty sure
she gave him.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Some minute, but she said it like it sounds like
because she sent me voice notes, it sounded like pity
pussy cause it was like, oh but he's so nice,
they feel so bad for him. I don't ever want
to give out Bill Johnna. That goes with that tone,
you know, and what.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Man actually wants. Like, well, actually we had a man
on who said he's okay with pitty pussy, Like here
you hear nigga hit us pussy, Like, why do you
not want the woman to also enjoy it? And I
think men know when we are giving them pitty pussy,
But do they give a fuck? I don't think so.
They don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
They don't care as long as they hitting it, they
don't care what kind it is.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
All right, y'all were back, and we want to know,
are you a girls girl?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Damn?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Do you think you're a girl's girl.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'm absolutely a girl's girl.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think I am too, okay, based on the characteristics
of what a girl's girl is. But this is like
a whole new trending thing online, y'all. And anytime somebody
just does anything like to disagree with a woman, people
in the comments like, oh she is not a girl's girl. Now,
that's one thing I don't agree with. Like everybody ain't
gonna like everybody, right, you could be pleasant to everyone, right,
(10:32):
this girl, Christina Mackie, people are saying that she's not
a girl's girl, she's actually a pigmy, which I consider
the counter for girls girl tam. Thing's different, though, So
what is a girl's girl to you?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
To me? I guess a girl's girl to me is
someone who advocates for women in all ways, you know,
like even the smallest of things, just seeing a woman
walking down the street and there pretty dressing, like yes,
okay dress, you know, just just their energy, you know,
always advocating for women and spreading love.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, I call it a hype girl, because bitch, I'd
be hyping bitches up. Okay, even if I don't know you,
like I'm in your comments, like if you look good,
like hey, girl, you look good. Da da da da,
even on the streets. Those are That's what I consider
like one of the characteristics of a girl's girl.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Right, But that's the most basic, Like if you if
you fuck with another girl's man, can you call yourself
a girl's girl?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
No, No, I have. So I made a list. I
made well kind of sorder, uh, And part of my
list is like things where you might not be considered
a girl's girl if you do these things. And then
I have like the internet definition of a girl's girl.
So this I forgot where I got this from. But
a girl's girl typically refers to a woman who is supportive, understanding,
(11:58):
and friendly to wars other women, and implies a strong
sense of camaraderie and solidarity amongst women. That's a basic
definition of what a girl's girl is. I'm definitely a
girl's girl. Niggas really be trying to get me to
not be a girl's girl though, and those where like
pick mees are people who pander to men for the
(12:22):
approval of men. I have a lot of guy friends
who send me dms all the time trying to disparage
women because we talk a lot of shit about men
and women on this podcast. But I'm a black woman first,
so I'm always gonna show up for us. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's definitely if you can put somebody in position, you know,
and then take that opportunity to do it, that's definitely
a girl's girl. Now, some of these lists was almost
sound like lesbian, like the only way you could be
a girl's girl is if you like eating pussy to
you or that that's not necessarily true. Like it was
(12:57):
like girls girls like hate men and that's not true,
Like you can be a girl's girl and love men.
But all right, so you were saying that, like it's
a pick me is like someone who panders to men,
or like women who say like I'm a guys girl,
like I like, I'm cooler with guys than I am women.
(13:19):
Do you feel like they're pigmies?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, and I don't. Those are guys girls, Those aren't
girls girls, Because one of the characteristics of a pick
me would be someone who says, I don't have female friends.
That's a guys girl. I don't have female friends. I
only hang around guys. And the women I know that
you know, stand on that they oftentimes that has sex
(13:43):
with multiple of them, homeboys of theirs that you be
hanging out with, and they just be delusionaling fucking ugly
inside and out, Like I don't. I don't like women
who don't like other women. Pause. Yeah, not the palls, Yeah,
because how do you get through life without your girlfriends? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I always find it weird, Like if I meet a
woman who don't have if they wasn't a military brand,
you know, who travel like always moving, if you don't
have nobody that you grew up with as a friend,
not even one, I beside, I am bitches like that,
like where's your homegirls at? Where's your childhood friends? Like?
How do you not have any?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
When I think about the women that I no longer
have relationships with, like who I considered like best friends
at the time, they don't have any childhood friends, They
don't have any consistent friends. They have add water for
instant friends. Every three to six months, you hanging out
with a different group of people. Those are wishy washy people.
(14:47):
Like when I make friends with somebody, oftentimes I'm friend
with friends with them forever.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So oh, you know, I can't say the same. I
have relationships that I've outgrown in different ways, like not
because they're bad people or but it just wasn't As
we got older, our path just took us different places.
So I can't necessarily say that I have everybody that
(15:16):
I've been friends with, you know, some of them just
we not like that no more. And it ain't no beef,
you know, it's just life. And then I do have
relationships or I've had relationships with people where I had
to exit them for my life for whatever reason, it
just wasn't healthy. And I'm talking about people who were
close to me, you know, very close to me, and
(15:37):
I just it wasn't healthy. The dynamic was no longer
suiting my life, so I had to exit them, you know.
And people I still love very much, you know, and
I still might inquire about, you know, are they good
and I want them to be good, But bitch, I
don't fuck with you like that. You know, you don't
have people in your life like that.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I have an ex friend and who I consider a
family member. I consider her like my a sister, a
family member who I don't fuck with, who I don't
talk to no more. I don't care about her well
being and how she's doing. But she's not a good friend.
She's really not a good person, so I mean, and
she always got a different group of friends. Don't have
no childhood friends for real. That's that's weird to me.
(16:23):
And I still have stories about her friendships with other
women till this to this day, like issues and be
falling out at some point. You gotta look at you
at some point.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Right right, Absolutely, I'll be falling out with bitches. But
typically we always come back together. But people don't, you know,
People either love or hate how forward I am at
times like it either is like okay, I fuck with
this or I can I can only deal with this
(16:56):
bitch in doses or I can't deal with this bitch all.
But they have. Most the people who are very close
with it still understand that even with my bluntness is
coming from a place I love. It might come off aggressive,
but it's not meant to be hurtful, and that's why
they can still fuck with me.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
This is from TikTok. It says, in some ways, the
rise of the Girls girls on TikTok is about pushing
back against the notion that we need to separate ourselves
from other women and craft personalities that are different from
those of everyone else. You know how guys do like
you're just so different from everybody else? Like how because
I can give you thirty bitches in my phone that
(17:39):
seemed just like me? Right, So it's like a tactic
that men use that creates picknies, right, Like, you're so different.
A lot of us have a lot of the same characteristics.
You know what I'm saying that when you start changing
yourself completely to suit a male, that's when it becomes
(18:00):
like pickmish, you're just going against all women, right.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
It's a lot of Yeah. I see a lot of
videos of women like saying all these things about what
women need to do, and some of it might be true,
but then some of it does give off this energy
that you're pandering to men, you know, in a real way,
like you need to suck his dick every day when
(18:29):
he come off from work. It don't matter what happened
on some like what like, girl, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Absolutely not, that's a pick me.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm not sucking nobody dick every.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Day, right. So these are the things I came up
with that I consider a girl's girl. So a girl's
girl literally fixes each other's crown, even when you don't
know the woman. So I if I see a woman
with like toilet tissue coming at the bathroom on her shoe,
I be like, girl, hold on, you go back out
in the club. Okay, tags sticking out. I'm talking your
(19:03):
tag and I don't know you hair out of place.
I'm fixing your hair. Those are the type of thing lass.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Is coming up your close your eye, your lash. Come,
I got some glue.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Girl, you know, like you already trying to make sure
they're crying.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Everybody on point is good?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Right, Even women you don't know. With friends, you post
the best pics, bitch, even if we I look fine
as telling this picture, you look fucked up. I like
this picture. It's the only picture we got. The picture
ain't going up right, You don't look good?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It right? Right?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Right? And even catching candid photos of your friend when
you think she looking good, like girl, it's a good picture.
Stay right there, that's the girl's girl, right.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
But you know what, sometimes I somebody will post a
picture of you that you they think look good at you,
and you be like, bitch right, they don't look good right,
and you should have read by me first.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
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