November 27, 2025 • 57 mins
In this episode of We Talk Back, AJ Holliday and Tam Bam serve up a lively and candid conversation centered around Thanksgiving gratitude, culinary responsibilities, and the pressure of holiday expectations. They explore the emotional weight of hosting, family dynamics, and the tradition-filled stress that comes with preparing the perfect holiday.
The discussion evolves into a deep dive into Summer Walker’s recent relationship controversy, unpacking themes of self-worth, accountability, and emotional boundaries in modern dating. The hosts examine how societal expectations, especially for successful and financially independent women, impact romantic relationships and the perception of femininity.
They also touch on Kandi Burruss’s rumored divorce, using it as a doorway to explore the impact of success, ego, and financial imbalance on partnerships. AJ and Tam highlight how ego—not success—destroys relationships, emphasizing the importance of emotional security, support, and mutual celebration of wins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What's up y'all? At your girl a j holiday? What's
up to? Dam?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I love y'all, Havy Thanksgiving folks, I love y'all. How
do we get to?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I like to say what you're grateful for this week?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, that's a good question. I am grateful for good health.
I'm grateful for healthy relationships. I'm grateful for bundle deals tomorrow.
I'm grateful for my side teeth. Yo, I am. I
(00:53):
was just looking on I'm grateful for that the Lord,
and I'm grateful for we talk about podcasts. What about
to hear it?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Let me see what I'm grateful for this week? Mmmm? Family? Right?
Always grateful for good good health. If you can't find
anything to be grateful for, but your ass have have
a good bill of health, there goes your reason. Definitely grateful,
(01:22):
Definitely grateful for We Talk Back. Okay, grateful for this
macaroni and cheese I make because it's really all I
have to eat for Thanksgiving. You know, I'm eating a
nigga food and yeah, family, friends, all the good things.
That's what I'm grateful for.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Man, what are you cooking? Just mac and cheese? That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Cheese is seafood, salad, and I got to make my own.
Like I'll probably make like some salmon and something like that,
like a filet salmon, because I don't need the meats,
some pies and what else am I responsible for? I
make a crap some crab rice.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
M h that's it, and almost some of the up
put some in the milk.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It be busting too. I put a little bit of
coconut cream in there. M hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That sounds nice. I'm first of all, I'm responsible for
five different family families macaroni and cheese, and I don't
know how I set myself like charging it. Yeah, I'm selling.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Okay, I'm about to say, y'all. One year, me and
Tammy swapped rare rice for macaroni, Like, but I wait
a minute, I actually made the red rice for you,
and all you gave me was the macaroni cheese recipe.
What wake a minute? What's happening? What that has has
tweaked a little bit bit because I'm not putting all
that goddamn heavy whooping cream. Y'all. See how many calories
(02:39):
and heavy whooping cream?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You just only eat it on Thanksgiving and like Eastern Christmas,
that's the only time you eat that type of macaroni
and cheese cake.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Take for us to get them calories off from Thanksgiving,
I'm taking I take a laxative on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Mhm. So there's that. Don't do that, folks, though, because
I think that might be called laxative abuse. I'm not sure,
but I do take one so I can't empty out
all of that stuff right right, drink that tea baby. Anyway,
I'm responsible for macaroni and cheese, the dressing, a banana pudding,
(03:19):
and corn bread, all carbs, heavy carbs. That's so that's
all my job.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's all good. How you do your corn brand, I
should be damning like a cake girl with a little
crusty little top.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah. Same, It be kind of cakey, it be kind
of sweet, and I put a cane butter on mine.
Let me tell you what. Let me tell you a
secret ingredient. And y'all might think it's bad, but it
tastes so good, y'all. It's a can of cream corn
in there, like Yeah, I've seen people make it like that,
but I don't want the corn.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That doesn't make it extra sweet, but I don't want
the corn in there. And then depending on where brand
and cream, corn that should be starchy as hell, be
sticking to you teeth.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It is start teeth, but so good. It's so good.
So I'm making that. I got, you know what, this
recipe I got from my friend. I haven't tried it yet,
but I've tried hers and it was so good. You know,
hit her up like can you I have your corn
bread recipe and she's sitting mm hmm yeah, kind of
like a hush yep. So good. So you have carbub
(04:25):
Tanya is doing the greens and yams. I typically do
the yams too, but I'm not doing everything. You know,
I ain't got my own house yet, so how I'm
cooking all the damn food.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So that part you ain't put out no Christmas tree
yet this year, I guess to be up until March.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I can't put up like I don't move into it.
So I found a place, but I'm gonna move in
till January, so I can't put it. I ain't putting
up on Christmas tree. But my mom is. I'm sure
she's gonna put up a tree at some point.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I ain't putting up shit, bitch. I don't even got
a couch in it, so I do have chairs, have
a couch that I want yet, So maybe if I
get a couch within the next week or two, I'll
get a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Why don't you? It's Black Friday sales that like, I've.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Seen a so far went from Ashley Furniture yesterday, So
I need the black fat Friday sale. Is not black
enough for me?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh yeah, but just enough. The Black Friday sales used
to be just on Friday, and they used to be
super sales. Now they start on the week before and
it just based a regular sale.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No I need like this fucking couch is almost five
thousand dollars. No, right the fuck? I need forty percent off?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah yeah, that's how it used to be on Black Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No no more, ain't no damn sales. It's finesse.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Zara opens up December first, and Charlotte and you know
it's gonna be madness, and my friends are.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like, all and Charleston, man, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
My friends are like, we don't want to go into January.
I'm going right on be out there with the whole
the masses on December first, fighting over. I had it first, No,
I had had at first, like I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because I wanted to order some airrings from Zara, like
I need a local Zara mm hm, because they be
having all a cute shit, last minute shit. You always
could find you something Zara. Yep, I'm excited anyway. Weekend,
y'all know what it was. Y'all know what time it is.
I't do much this weekend. He did max it out again.
I did find a comforter that I was looking for
(06:31):
last week. Some said, actually go back a home Goods today.
I went back in home Goods. I got my comforter. Okay,
so that's all I had going on this weekend, and
my boot thing in town for the holidays.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So boo boot up m I did. I worked like
a Hebrew slave this weekend. You know, right before the holidays.
Everybody wants to hurt them when I tell you I worked.
I put it in forty eight hours in four days.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Mmmm.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And that's I feel like. That's all I did was
work and sleep for four days straight, like, and not
a lot of sleep either, and my feet hurts so bad. Like,
I went out and bought me some Hokahs because I
can't live.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Like six a six They good standing and running.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Boy, I went and got them ships because when I
tell you, my feet was on fire so bad. I
was supposed to apply to New York, I couldn't even go.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You know you're supposed to wear them little old lady's shoes.
I'm a little They look like penny loafers, a little
bit like round the square tow in the front. That's
oide of all the ladies who used to do it
do here back in the day. Those are the shoes
they wore that. Those are for standing all day long,
stothing cute.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, no, I got them ugly, that's hokah them. She's
as ugly as hell. But I got them because I
will never put my feet to fed again.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
The so of them Hoka's like four inches.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
They're urguly fuck but they feel like you're walking on
the cloud and I need that. Let's get into stands.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I know the whole world saw Summer Walker this past weekend.
Missus Pizza hut okay sparked a lot of it. Did it?
Did I feel like I've been bamboozled with these albums. Right,
I feel like I've been bamboozled because I don't know that. Okay,
(08:24):
let's back up a little bit. Okay, So this past week,
Summer Walker had a lot of controversy right between her
and I don't know why the hell I kept wanting
to call his boy rich Omi Kwan but Rich the Kid, Okay,
Rich the Kid who is who has been in a
long term relationship with Tory Briggs. Right, No, they're not married.
(08:46):
Do they have one or two? I think they got
like two kids together or something like that. But she's
been known for having to beat bitches up over him. Okay,
going to jail this type of shit. These are the
things that have transpired over the years. So Summer Walker.
This weekend, Tory Briggs released audio of her basically telling
(09:06):
Rich the Kid how he can just just get a
second cell phone and save her number as pizza hut.
She don't give a fuck like she's cool in the
position that she's currently playing, which is side bitch, and
she says she has been in this position for many years.
At this point, they've been fucking run off and on
and if he's opening the wallet, her hands is out
(09:28):
like this. Remember that means she had what she was
giving her baby, baby daddy back to the niggas, I mean,
back to the streets. So she's saying, if the wallet opens,
her hands is open, like obviously the legs is open
to How are you feeling about Summer Walker right now?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm disappointed in her. You know when she said when
she was coaching a nigga on how to keep her
a side bitch, like save my number, it's pizza hut.
That was just the lowest of the low. You don't
think you deserve better than that, baby girl. You are
not a pizza place. You are a whole, mother, a
(10:09):
whole You're a singer with a beautiful voice. You have
so much to give to the world, and here you
are minimizing yourself. Dude, they got what don't They got
five dollar personal pans right now? Like girl get.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
She's a five dollar foot log. So that made me
say why I say side bitches could get beat up sometimes, right? So, no,
they're not married, they're allegedly engaged Tory Briggs and Rich
the Kid Summer Worker Walker. You notice you make albums
about how many and shit? How you know the heart
(10:47):
of a woman is the only reason why these niggas
is breathing. But here you are doing the same shit
that you sing about to the next woman. That's this
is why side bitches have to take accountability. Yes, the
homeworkerd is the motherfucker that's in the home. But your
man cannot cheat unless there is a nigga. Excuse me,
she had nigga too, unless there is a nigga bitch
(11:07):
willing to complete, willing to compete, right, so there's always
somebody willing to compete. Rich the kid. Now, Ever, since
this now I have been tallying up her bodies, I'm
now taking a look at the men she has let
have access to her box. Right, and y'all that just
ain't who y'all think y'all are? Rich the kid? God
(11:30):
damn uh low funky Mac, what's the what's the low one? Uh?
What's the name? Says musty.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Little meach Low meach.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Her baby daddy, the two baby daddies, and then the
nigga who she was just dating recently, who just came
home from prison. It was like he was in her
DM for years and I guess she finally gave him
a chance in any video I saw her in with
this nigga. She was looking uncomfortable, like, why am I
fucking with him? You know what I'm saying. He would
be saying, its a big shit.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
She's just a broken girl, That's what I think. You know,
she's broken. I just think she kind of she's a
fucking hood rat and she like her rat niggas like
they're doing her rat shit and it's cool. Well, I
mean hood rat. I don't know. I don't know she's
a hood rat, but I think she's just making poor choices.
She's mismanaging her body for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Somemawaka Suki Hannah, Sexy Red, that's her click. Oh they
are all, Yes, they are all friends. They be hanging
out and listen them bitches is comedians as far as
that with certain when I them bitches as funny as hell,
all of them. Someone Walker is hilarious to me, just
on some regular goofy shit. But this is not putting
(12:44):
her in a good light. And then for you ton't
on live disparaging toy bricks the way you did, like
she's wrong. Yeah, this do for her relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That's the other thing. If you are complicit in being
on the side at least have the slightest amount of
ego about yourself to not be coming at the other woman,
like damn, that should be embarrassing that you shouldn't be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
At her because she put that some Walker didn't like
the light she was being shining because of that video
that Tory Briggs posted with her saying how she is
okay being aside you know what I'm saying. She even
liked that nigga. Yeah, so she Tory posted a video, right,
and then someone Walker went on a live talking about
(13:32):
her relationship with Rich the Kid and talk about basically
Rich the Kid's relationship with his kid's mom, and in
the midst of that, she's disparaging another woman. It was
just kind of mean, girlish. I understand, Like, yeah, listen, yeah,
Like I said, the home record is the motherfucker in
the home. But you have to take some responsibility for
(13:53):
the bullshit because you're not looking. You don't look cute
in that situation at all.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Nothing about it makes you look good.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, nothing you could say a dude.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sweetpea baby, I wouldn't have never went live. I would
have been if I went live, I would have promoted
my album. Since everybody looking over here, y'all go, y'all
go listen to my album right now. It's been out
since Thursday. Y'all sit, make my shit training something. I
would never have mentioned that woman or that man period.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah. I definitely would have tried to like make some
make some live shit out of it, because it ain't
no way I would get up there talking crazy about
that girl like you ain't wrong?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Did you wrong as a mother for And this is
rich to kid? How much money he got? I know
Summer Walker got more money to him. You got to
actually like that nigga? Why you fuck with him? Ain't boy?
No check. You try to convince us that you don't
like him. You like him right because you got enough
money you're getting like it cannot He's not giving you
that much money to where you like you. You want
(14:57):
to play a side bitch to this nigga for this,
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's given like so rich men. You know how some
women like whoever liked them. That's what it feels.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But he don't like you, you know what I'm saying.
Rather you like people what I don't like about women
who be like in the side position. Like they always
want to down the main person, right and say how
stupid she is. Both of y'all getting the same raw dick.
You're getting the same money. You're not getting any better
treats than she is. Like she might be having to
(15:29):
deal with a little bit more headaches from him. But
in those audios, she was saying, like, you know how
he is, like you start trying to stop talking to him,
he's calling your manager, he's stalking like so basically like
he's keeping you wrapped up in this thing and you
love it. Mm hm because they got law enforcement change
your number. You are a Summer Walker. This is all
(15:50):
I'm like, who are you? And now at this point,
I don't know not to say that we even know
like celebrities, like we don't know who these people are.
But she's a fucking at this point, That's how I'm
looking at her, Like, girl, what And I love somemer Walker. Man,
I love Summer Walker.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, me too. I hope she finds a way to
redeem herself from this.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
This is the bitch story.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, and we've all been wanted once or twice, but
this is this is a dumb bitch Olympics.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Like big lot meech like he was lying, saying he
was just dropping groceries off to his cousin. He like
on the ring cam, like going to a bitch apartment,
like playing with Summer Walker. Right, so when you think
you who you are, right and niggas be playing in
your face like this, that shit has to fuck with
your esteem. And I think that's what we're looking at, right,
(16:47):
You're not looking at a confident woman. No, that's not
what I'm saying, because you wouldn't be You wouldn't be
second best to any bitch. And Tory Briggs is a
beautiful girl, you know what I'm saying. He should not
be dealing with the shit she's dealing with from him.
But she's now she has two kids with him, you
know what I'm saying, So whatever whatever her reasons are
for staying with him, or her reasons, and some Walker
(17:10):
was like, if I really wanted him, you would be
homeless today. That is so mean.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, that's that's gross. But you know what we were
talking about them he has He is the problem. He
is the real problem. Some of it has her problems too,
things that she needs to fix. But Rich the kid
needs to be Rich the man, and stop playing with
these women in their hearts.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
These are people who are in public relationships. And Tory
Briggs has been with Rich the Kid throughout all the
relationships some of Walker has had publicly, right, So as
long as you've had these relationships, you know, had a
set of twins, another kid, you've known that this woman
has been with this man. So what point do you
know fuck with this man knowing this? Like when do
(17:55):
we are not saying you got to be a girl's girl,
but you know, the man in relationship, no matter what
the fuck he say, he's publicly in a relationship with
this woman. So at some point we gotta we gotta
have a little onus, you know, in the in the situation,
this ship is not fucking cute. Yeah, and you be
singing about niggas not being shipped, because oftentimes, if you've
never experienced a man who is this ship, chances out
(18:18):
you ain't shit either. Anybody you fucked with it ain't shit.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That part. What about speaking of side bitches, This side
bitch hopped in the grave in front of the wife
in the family of her dead person.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, their dead nigga, this is she deemed it. My
thing is you hopping in the grave. You ain't paid
for a bitch, did you? Did you put in on
this coffin? You don't put a d in hopping in
this six foot hold.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh they didn't lower it in front of the family.
No more for this specific reason people jumping in.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, yeah, I just I mean I with my home
girl funeral. They definitely lowered it in the ground. But
I don't know if we had any used to people
out there who about to hop in, right, they should
have start throwing that dirt and see she would have
hopped out. And it was a white woman.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Was she white? Because I couldn't tell.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I saw a real beige black back. And then yeah,
I got her and they was all around her beating her.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, she could have been been theirs because they sounded
like black with folks.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And you know that women were black, right, the white
and all the man who passed his black, the family's black.
But the person who jumped in that grave was definitely
looking like a slim, crackhead white lady.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You couldn't tell. All you saw was the slither of
her back. But that hair.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Looked kind of sticky, it's getting sticky. It looked kind
of sticky.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That could just be the weave, could have.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Been could have been a twenty seven piece cutting a
little morehawk looking.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, there was a waiting. I'm so glad that her
face wasn't shown, just for her sake, because how embarrassing.
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I thought they had possibly pushed her in there.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
No, she was just so broken by the loss of
this person.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I ain't never see nobody that much in grief that
they jump on the grave. But they tore her ass up.
She learned a valuable lesson. I think, Yeah, just keep
it quiet to the end. I mean, he gone. He
was silent in life, be silent in.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Death, or at least pay for something. If it's if
I got to bury my husband that you've been fucking on.
You better not show up at this goddamn funeral empty handed.
Need I need of what I spent on this funeral.
You ain't just about to come enjoy a damn chicken
and fried chicken plate and macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You can't come to the repair at all, Like, please,
I listen, I won't tell you can't come to the funeral,
but please don't come to the repair.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Why would you. Why would you be coming to the
funeral as a side bitch. This d side bitch is
getting out of control in mourning. She mourning at the house.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Don't come. You can't come to the repairs though you
were areen.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So this America's next top model model I think is
her name, Kenya Kenya Hill. M h uh. She is
now threatening to sue this streamer he pulled up. You know,
they be on the streets pulling up telling people they
are putting them on stream talking or whatever. But she started,
you know, recording them on her live excuse me, not
(21:28):
on her live on her story. She started recording a
video for her story, and she asked him for a
kiss on the cheek, and this young man declines and
walks off like people are crazy. Now she's on a rant.
She's ritting off all over social media now wanting to
sue because she said she asked him not to use
(21:49):
the footage. Mind y'all, this is streaming. The footage is live.
Is no way of deleting it, right, So obviously the
incident was our aready clipped. And I feel like this
just shows just how women cannot take rejection like men do,
because why you thought, why would he want to kiss
(22:10):
you on the cheek? Who are you? And why does
he have to kiss you on the cheek? And now
you're upset he didn't kiss you on the cheek and
you want all the content removed our social media because
you look crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm confused as to why she wanted this stranger to
kiss her on in the first place, where she just
found him attractive or something, or what was that about.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It was kind of weird, right, Yeah, I think it's
just for content purposes, possibly, you know what I'm saying,
Like he's saying how he's up for a Grammy this.
I guess she might have perceived him as somebody who
was possibly lit and I'm just assuming from one of
these content creators minds, maybe this is what it was. Yeah,
(22:53):
but I don't know. I just I that would never
be a goal too.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
To be like, put one right here, boy, If you
don't get out on face, I don't know where your
mouth been.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah. So it was weird, and it was a weird
exchange in her part, and I think that that's why
she wanted the video to be taken down. But it's
already live, sweety, so people saw you getting curved for
a fake kiss on the streets, and in the video
looks like she was stopping him to talk. I don't know,
it's just weird. She got her a little five minutes, right.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So this is gonna take us into our topic today.
I don't know if y'all saw, but Candy Birds has
fouled for divorce from Todd Tucker. Candy Birds Tucker excuse
me has fouled for divorce from Todd Tucker. A video
resurface of showing Todd saying women who don't want to
(23:51):
share their wealth will end up by themselves. We just
want to have a conversation about can women be more
successful than their spouse and stay in a relation ship
or stay married? So we're gonna get into that when
we come back. All right, y'all went back? Hey, y'all,
AJ was making your face? Y'all you crazy? Or the
(24:13):
topic is kim relationships last if the woman is more successful? Now,
I wanted to talk about this. I don't know if
that's why their marriage is dissolving. Let me just say
that it could be many reasons. Who knows what it is.
But because that conversation that video resurfaced, I wanted to talk.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
About, like.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Successful women in their relationships with men, if they're with
a man who is not as successful as them, do
we know a lot of them? Are they healthy relationships?
Are they happy? Are the men happy? Are they bitter?
Do they resent the woman? Because I feel like a
lot of times we are society, a man's value is
(24:55):
directly tied to what he brings to the table. So
if he's not the bread winner, is he a valuable partner?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah? I mean just because the everybody, including men, know
that they have to produce. It's just it is what
it is. And I think that sometimes men, instead of
working towards putting themselves in a position to produce more,
they will create issues elsewhere, right, like the woman or
(25:29):
the relationship will become the problem as to why they
aren't producing. Men like men with money, women like men
with money. It's just, it is what it is. It's
one of those double standards. But I think when you
have women we kind of talked about this a couple
episodes ago. What was it was one of your friends
(25:50):
we had on the show, and she was in corporate
and we were talking about you know, women, black women
with day degrees and money and all women sometimes they yeah,
they sometimes, you know, and not not just tech obviously,
right because because Candy is, she's been in entertainment since
they were, since she was a teenager. This like the
world has known who Candy was for a very long time, right,
(26:13):
so her success did not just start with Todd right
right now, what they build together, that's it's just separating. Sorry,
And I even feel the same way if it were
the man who was was a bread winner. I don't.
I don't believe in like taking somebody's somebody for everything
(26:33):
they are they have. I don't believe in that at
the end of a relationship that ship has kind of
fucked up. To me, you you leave with what you
came with or whatever we acquired together. But I think
that men say that they can deal with that with
making a funny face, I wonder why they say. Men
(26:54):
say that they can deal with that, But I really
don't think they can. And as much as a woman
will try to like coddle them and make them feel like, hey,
it's okay, it is something in the man, right. He
wants to produce, he wants to do more, and whatever
is prohibiting that, it has nothing to do with the woman.
But I have seen this in real life. Okay, women
(27:15):
making the more more money, the women making moves, and
then they have this failure to launch as dude. And
I'm not saying that's Todd's position, right, I'm just saying,
in like real life situations I've seen and woman, the
woman is always like overcompensating for him.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, this one's about to say, do you feel like
when women are more successful they have to shrink or
downplay their accomplishments to make that man feel secure. Do
you feel like that's.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It may not be necessary and men may say they
don't need it, but there's a reason why this woman
starts doing that because men will have like little big
money or I can't you be like trying to clock
with the woman is spending money on I know a
guy who was in a relationship with a woman and
she was a doctor. He's like in tech, like its
for the government. But this woman she was a doctor,
(28:11):
but and she worked in the emergency room, so she
just worked all day long, outsourced everything. She even wanted
to outsource a baby if they were to get married
and have a kid, Like she's like, I don't want
to have the baby, like I want to pay for
a zarrogan so because she was in a position to
spend the money, and she never once said anything to
him about not making as much as she did it.
(28:34):
Once they broke up, it played out in all his
relationships after that. I just felt like he's he always
felt inadequate in every relationship after that, even though he
made money, he just never made four hundred thousand dollars
like this.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But she was with, yeah, that's what I'm about to say, Like,
because he could be successful still, but as long as
he's not as successful as his counterpart, there is some
type of ego thing going on where he can't he
doesn't feel like the man.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But then we do it, and I think the women
are like this, this is our as long as we together,
this is our money. But you're not about to leave
and take half my shit. No nobody wants that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Man don't want, right, But oftentimes women do. When they leave,
they get a lot, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, because oftentimes the woman leaves with the kids too.
So you think you're supposed to put three babies in
and they're not supposed to have the same lifestyle that
you afforded when we were together. That's where the extra
money comes in at right, So you still gotta pay
for the private school. We gotta. You have to still
pay for those kids to live as if they were
living with you. And you could take Shaquille O'Neil for example,
(29:38):
when Shannie left, like he he would rather pay Shanni
all this money than they have to deal with them,
fucking kidding night. So we got the money to do it?
Why not? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But I can imagine Candy being like, you can get
the fuck out like real quick to tie you know.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I can't though my mother Candy is a nice No,
I think Candy is nice. I can't imagine Candy because
I feel like Candy would be one of those women
over compensating for him because remember her mama did not
at some point, Yeah, okay, her mama didn't like Todd initially.
And you know she was already on house eves of
(30:14):
Atlanta before even being a house housewife. She had like
a boyfriend or fiance is somebody that got help club
or some shit in Atlanta, and now she met Todd.
Todd is now on the show. What you do see
Todd doing on the show is presenting all these different
business ideas and shit like that over the years, and
like the Old Lady Gang, the restaurant and all that
shit like that. Those were all Todd's ideas. And that
(30:38):
ship like up right now and that's a failing business.
That old a gang closed down. Yeah, they had like
a lot of little legal issues. So maybe I don't know,
maybe invested in these some of the business's ideas that
he came up with, might have you know, cost her money.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Their money that she.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
That Listen if if you if you come in and
cost them money, We'll say that right, because that's what
Todd would would like to say. But if I had
to use my money for the initial investment on this thing,
you would have never gotten this thing off the ground
had it. Now I could take me for a fucking example,
and it God theren food truck trap veggie. Okay, nigga
(31:19):
kill me with the idea. I'm like, yeah, now, mind you.
I would be the cook on the truck too, because
he ain't cooking shit.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Did it ever come out?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
He probably still eating you probably no, uh huh. I
still own the business, but he has the truck. So
whenever I get myself situated, I still want to do
my business. My business. I had to argue with this
nigga about my business because I invested the initial like
how you I've never been able to tell a nigga
my dreams, and they invested in the day one like here,
(31:47):
let's go buy the truck. Let's I bought the truck,
I put the transmission in it. Now I got to
argue with this nigga about who owns the actual name
of the business, because people be messaging me wanting to
buy the business name itself. Hm, you know what? And
in his mind he thinks he owns something because he
did like the fabrication of the truck, But you don't.
You don't own it, like you eventually put more money
(32:09):
into the business than I did, but it never got going.
I never got my return on investment. At least you
still got the truck. So it's it's were you. Would
you have ever done this without me? That that would
be my question. Could Todd have opened a restaurant or
I don't know what he was doing prior to Candy.
We know her money? Was you finial?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He was working in production on the show because that's
where they met. He was on like the production team.
He was in entertainment as well, but so you remember
that man. They went to Africa and they threw he
threw them bones, and he told Candy that she was
gonna get married to somebody who was there with them now,
and he told Charay she would never get married again.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, is that the same episode? Porschia the persons here,
porscha she was gonna be with a woman.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, I don't remember, but she is dating the woman now?
Is I will throw some bones from me and tell
me what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So she married him and no getting divorced. I guess
he didn't say they would stay together. He just said,
you know, I love short man. I love short man, y'all. Okay, go,
I said, I'm a short man advocate. But I can
see on Todd's face that that niggas a sassy problem.
I could see on his face that he would be
a fucking problem. Like you short, you're short for meau.
(33:30):
Some niggas be like they really have like the Napoleon syndrome. Right,
So you short, and on top of that, your woman
making more money than you.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, that could cause a problem ego. So all right,
so how can it actually work?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
What what would a woman need in a man for
that ship to actually make sense.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It work, like if she had all the money and
he hadn't. I don't I don't think it can't not work, right,
But I don't think that the men would allow it
to work. I know another couple who the woman has
been a breadwinner the majority of the relationship, and I
have heard him say that he's okay with that, He's
okay with his wife making more money than him. He
(34:15):
speaks about her for on one k as if it's theirs.
You know what I'm saying, she allows it. So who
is you know, anybody outside the relationship to say anything. Now,
I know for a fact that this woman does not
emasculate this man, and if she does, it is never
(34:35):
in public. Okay, So she's saying some shit to him
in the bedroom, like you ain't even pulling you a weight, nigga,
Like that's not even emasculating. It's like it's the truth, right,
I would never know if that's happening, right, But the
way this person, everything he everything that comes out of
his mouth just sounds like he's just trying to overcompensate
(34:56):
for not producing.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And I think that's just it. Think but it's also
a societal thing because men in this country, men are
made to feel less than when they can't produce, right.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think that's all countries. It's just that in other
countries it's known that a man has to take care
of his family. It's almost like it's up for debate.
In America, the fuck it's not up for debate.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But in their situation, they ain't even taking care because
I think he probably could take care of the family
off of what he makes, but they taking care of
different life. Yeah, there's a different kind of take care
when it comes to Candy Birds and people who have
in that tech record.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
And I don't even see Candy as like super flashy,
you know what I'm saying. Like, I think Candy probably
lives made more way more modest than her bank account
it actually allowed. Yeah, so I don't I don't see
her just being a super flashy person that he got
it like she She's just real modest to me. So
(35:57):
if a man had to be with any woman that
had more money than him, it would be her. But
the problem is is that it's the man's ego that
couldn't deal with that. So I can't say one little
thing to you about finances without you getting upset. I
can see that happening, you know what I'm saying, like
or just even like you got to pay the cost
to be the boss. It just is what it is.
(36:20):
So whoever has more resources, more assets, oftentimes they are
going to be the one to make the decisions. You
playing with somebody else.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Money, right, So here is when it actually can work,
because I mean, I just when I listen to you,
I think about when it's flipped, and I'd be all
for that. You know, when it's the woman, I'll be
like and so and so. Well, when it's the man,
I'll be like mm hmm. So I know it's like.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Because I think women accept that my man is a
brand winner. Women are usually you know, and the women
are the homemaker, right, And I think men, if the
man isn't good with the money, he'll give all his money,
how much ever money he's making, to them. He's handling
a check book, she's handling their lives. Some men do
that even if they're the ones making all of the
(37:06):
Money's that's what I'm saying. It depends on the man.
I don't think a woman can do anything different in
that dynamic.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So yeah, unless she is complicit in shrinking and playing
small even though she is a breadwinner. So it says
can it actually work? Yes, when a man is emotionally secure,
the roles are flexible dot rigid. Both partners value teamwork
(37:33):
over power, and communication is honest and consistent, And it
says no when the woman feels she has to shrink
when he competes with her, when money becomes a weapon
or a scoreboard, or when ego is valued over partnership.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's pretty much it. There's a lot of women out
here who have invested in men. You know, the Internet
really will be fooling you. Like women ain't shit. We
just want to We just want to use all these
men for money, you know, when most men do not
have as much money as the Internet presents. The average
man doesn't, average woman doesn't. Most people are in the trenches.
(38:17):
So the situations you find like the people who I know,
like in medical profession, like doctors like that, and they
get with regular niggas who'd be watching video games and
shit like that. It is a recipe for the like
for disaster, because first of all, you can't give somebody
drive either, right, you still want to find somebody that's
(38:38):
equally yoked.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, I agree, but you gotta find somebody because I
definitely have a friend who left her husband because he
just was not financially ambitious, right, So she decided to
move on, and then she ultimately went back to him
because he was an excellent dad. He was so good
with the kids, He loved her fully, he never cheated
(39:03):
on her, he never did anything wrong, and he was
a good dad. But he just wasn't He was okay
with working a simple nine to five like that didn't
afford him a lot, but he would work. He just
wasn't trying to be the CEO of the company. That
was not his ambition. And she ultimately went back because
(39:25):
she felt like the value he did bring outweighed any
money that anybody else could have brought to her ultimately,
and I thought that was beautiful. And they're still married
now and they're happy. I mean, I'm sure they have
their issues like any other couple, but overall they're happy,
you know, And I admire that so much because I
(39:50):
don't know if I would have went back, you know,
I don't know if I would have, but it worked
for her and her family, so it can work. I
say all of that to say that can work.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, But he, to me, he's still in the position
of just think about women who get left by men
and the men the man is the provider, and the
man can come and go when they want to. That's
essentially what she did to her husband. Mm like she
left them, went to see what was outside, realizing shit
out there, and came back home. How many men can
you really play with like that, whether they got it
(40:23):
or not. Not many. So, like, he's definitely in a
I don't know what role he playing. I don't know.
I don't know what role it is that he's playing.
M H.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Great, So I have him advice to offer for our
listeners male and female. For the women, don't dim your
life ever. Choose emotional mature men, emotionally mature men, because
if not, they're not there. They're always going to resent
you if you make more money than them. And attention
(40:56):
to his reaction to your success.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Well, that's a big one, y'all. I talk about this
on this show before, y'all. Our first episode dropped and whatever.
January twenty twenty one, and I'm so happy, Tell me happy,
Like I'm on a computer I'm looking at analytics, like
I'm trying to see, like what kind of numbers were doing.
And my fiance at the time comes downstairs and the
(41:20):
first thing he says to me all day that day
is you a hope.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
But it's on the show.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
You a hoe. I'm like, Yo, this nigga, he took
me to lunch, He's say congratulation. Oh nothing, that is
that's the And he was already walking around the house
with a whole fucking attitude. I'm not knowing why not,
mind y'all. This nigga wanted to produce our show, like
he wanted to be hands on involved with our show.
And I'm like, you don't have time, Like we're trying
(41:48):
to start one business. You already own a business that
you're running one hundred percent of the time yourself. Right,
It's not like you can step away from that shit.
You don't have the time to fuck with my shit.
But that was his way to control have some control
over or something I was trying to do outside of him.
You gotta be careful with people like that, right, Because
he didn't know me prior to knowing me, right, so
he didn't like when we met. I wasn't on my shit.
(42:12):
I just wasn't. It took me a long time to
get back on my shit. Bitch, I feel like I
was rich in my twenties, Jeremy. And then it's the
ebbs and flow of you know what I'm saying. Shit
fucking happens. And this is when I met this man.
So I don't know if he where he thought he
was on a totem pole in comparison to where I was.
But the moment I started operating outside of his fucking program,
(42:35):
it was a problem. And I ain't never somebody you
can control, like I'm not programming. Okay, I'm not controllable,
so it's gonna be an uphill battle when you fuck
with me. So back to him asking me if I'm
a hole? Okay, listen, depends on the week.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
No more.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I'm talking about not even what is a hole? Okay,
there's my question? What is a hole? So I took
myself to lunch. I took myself to get me a
nutting but cupcake, cause what the fuck? Okay, to celebrate myself.
And he was still harassing me, calling my cell phone
and I finally answered, and he I said, you know what, motherfucker,
(43:12):
I am a hoe. Now what now, what you're gonna
do that You're engaged to this whole you were living
with each other day in and then out day out. You
see my moves, So to even ask me some shit
like that. Because of the commentary we have on the show,
Tammy and I were trying to find ourselves. We were
trying to see how we wanted to present to the world.
Were talking about the very first episode and our first
few episodes is raunchy as a motherfucking for no damn reason. Okay,
(43:36):
but we have sense grown, right, and I just wasn't
given a space to do that in that relationship. Like
I was being fucking censored in a real in a
real way. But yeah, like that was the first thing
he said to me, and it really was, you know,
to make me feel a way about myself. But when
you know thyself, can't nobody do that to you?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
So self awareness is number one. So if you in
a marriage, you're making more money than your man, right,
it's making like nobody should ever be making you feel
like you and you because.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Bitch, and you should never shrink it. And the last
one for women is to set boundaries early. And for
the men, your value isn't only financial, So that's that's
the biggest one. For men, your value is not only
(44:31):
connected to your money.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Largely though unfortunately it's just one of those things. It's
just and I think men know that innately. They know
that they have to have money and they feel happy
when they do. Men feel happy when they can take
care and do stuff for people without blinking an eye
like that is that they don't even that is their
fucking sweet spot. They don't even realize it. This is
(44:55):
why you focus on the fucking money before you start
having kids. Yeah, but focus on getting the bag first.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
But you know, some people are going to have a
regular nine to five and that will be their life.
It's gonna be some worker bees out here. And I
don't want a worker bee person listening to this and
feeling like he ain't worth nothing because he ain't the CEO.
That's not true because your value is not really financial.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
M So I feel like I'm a worker bee. You
a worker bee no, and we produce it. You don't
think you no?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So what are you? What's your what's your? What is
the CEO? I just ain't They're just working.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'm a CEO. I'm just not there yet.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Oh that's a great example set, right. I can't fuck
with a poor man. I cannot fuck with somebody who
has a poor mindset. So I feel like most women,
I always say this, We're not expecting you to have
it today, but you have to have a mindset of
a millionaire because if you keep that mindset, you will
get you in your family to where you want them
(46:01):
to be at. And you can't blame anybody else on
the way there because you don't have yet. I feel
like that's what I was experiencing. A nigga didn't have
a million dollars yet, and he was laming me for it,
like you ain't have a million when I met you,
and I accepted you where the fuck you were, and
in my mind we were going to build the million
dollars together. But what I realized is you can't really
(46:22):
help men build.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And but here's the thing. You can help man build.
You can. I've seen a lot of people get a
man and it was turn to turn that man into
the powerhouse that he It was somebody when he met her,
and then when she got into his life, he turned
into somebody different. But everybody, how many people got it?
I ain't got a lot, but the man stay, he exists.
(46:46):
But everybody go ain't to be a millionaire. Some people
just want to have a car, food, take a vacation
every now and then, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah, you gotta know your person Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
And and I don't want people to listen and think
that they have no value because they not. They don't
aspire it to that.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
When people listen to things. First of all, you gotta
have some discernment. You also have to know that this
the set, these these conversations are way more vast than
we could put into an hour long episode. Right, So
of course I'm not saying like women, if you got
a man, you gotta build, but Bill wouldn't leave him,
absolutely not. But you gotta know your personnel. You gotta
(47:29):
have discernment, understand who it is that you're dealing with.
Are you dealing with a man that you can help
build and he's not going to resent you for having
seen him when he haves shit, because that's usually what
the first babe mom experience or the woman who went
through the trenches with this man. And then he go
on and get a woman who never saw him struggle,
and that's who he marries.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
This is what I'm talking about. You gotta be careful.
You can't just do this this thing for anybody.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
No, I agree, you have to choose why. The next
one for men is learn emotional contribution. And that's a
huge one, I think because I know a lot of
women who are in relationships with men who can give
them the entire world financially, but when it comes to emotionally,
it's a drought and they're suffering in that area. So
(48:20):
it's important to learn emotional contribution because your your partner
needs that as well. Yeah, and when when you have
a partner who's doing well, celebrate her, don't resent her.
I know that's hard when you're not feeling adequate, but
you got to celebrate because your time will come if
(48:40):
you if you practice that energy. And then, like I know, I.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Was about to say, I know a couple. You know
the couple too, and I can just see that he
is not operating in the energy he would like to
be in.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You. I know exactly who you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
And it's so sad for me to see because I
can almost see like his light them and down because
he hasn't gotten his opportunity yet. Like I said, your
partner's wins are your wins. That should be your momentum,
like your like battery to get you to do your right.
So I'm not saying not to get behind because everybody
(49:19):
could do a jay Z and what's jay z best friend.
Niggas got behind jay Z Ta ta right. All the
niggas got behind jay Z because they realized jay Z
was that nigga who was going to take them to
wherever they was going at right, and they all employed.
They're all millionaires now because they support it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
This person the head.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yes, you gotta sometimes do that for your partner. So
if it's your wife in a position or if it's
your husband in a position, if they win, you win.
That's how you got to look at it, so you
can keep like the gratitude going. But I do strongly
believe that everybody should have their own little shit separate
outside of relationship too. You try to put all eggs
(50:00):
in a basket, she can get real messy, especially in
divorce and separation, depending on who's making all the money. Now,
this person like you're trying to take all my money
and this person. Likely when you ain't made no money
like it can get.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
You can get real, real ugly. The last one I hope, Yeah, me.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Too, I said, I hope candy shit don't get nasty.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah yeah. And then the last one is practice partnership
not competition. It ain't nothing worse than two people in
a relationship that are in competition with each other. Oh
have you ever seen that?
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Absolutely? And you know, one person could be saying I'm
not in competition with you verbally, but all your actions
show that you are in competition. That part, right, So
make sure you're going off of actions and not what
they're saying out their mouth because they may be gas
like you. So bitch, you know what you know, You
feel how you feel for a reason, and ask somebody
(50:53):
make sure you're not tripping. But yeah, that's essentially what
I was what I was saying, focusing on the partnership part.
It shouldn't be a competition no matter who's winning, Right,
if you and I win, that's how it should be.
I agree, I agree. I just don't know, man. I
think that the sweet spot for men is being a
(51:14):
bread winner. I just think that's where they are more comfort.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yes, then you ain't never gotta worried about her.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Well, they don't want that. This is why I say
men are more shallow than women. Men are two once
to ten. Like I feel like women are finding a
little space, like we'll make something out of nothing. But
if a man is what a woman that's doing worse
than him, please believe me, Like men are herpergamas, especially
(51:43):
black men. Them niggas is dating up. Fuck with y'all
talking while they try to make us feel bad for
dating up, you know a black Like when when when
a black woman dates like a other, a white person,
a white guy, whatever you say, When a black woman
dates a white guy, she probably got her life together.
She probably got the fucking bag too. And in her
mind that person, that particular woman's mind, right, maybe this
(52:06):
white guy is her who she's equally yoked with. Right.
When black men do it, oftentimes they think they sticking
it to the man by fucking the white girl. And
also you know, they trying to get their credit straight.
They're using her as what I'm saying, they're the ones
that are dating up to get a leg up in
society for sure, while we get looked down on for
(52:28):
digging for gold.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
That ain't there, right, that's the crazy part. I hate
when a nigga like or a man let me saying
that a man who will call a woman a gold
digger and they ain't got no gold.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Like, Yeah, what are we talking about? What y'all? Why
is this discussion about a woman taking everything you got
and you don't have nothing? What are we talking about that?
Y'all never even experienced that, So it's just be cool.
That is that man's experience. He has millions of dollars
to pay all this money and child support.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
That's not your situation that the judge will. The judge
will assign whatever is good for your pockets if you
were able in this situation, if you were ever in
this situation, for sure, I promise, Oh no, everybody get
the fucking bag. Would I take care of man? I
think my comfortable place is knowing a nigga got more
than me too. That's I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
I think I'm comfortable with that as well. However, I'm
not in a I don't right now. I don't think
I'm in a position to be with someone making lesson
than me. But if I was, if I had candy birds, money.
I don't know if I would care at that point.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
It depends, man, because people who Okay, you haven't accumulated
this wealth, right, meaning you don't know how to manage
it either. Because the one thing like, once you accumulate
the money, you have to then figure out how to
manage it, because you'll go back and broke. I was
just reading an article with this basketball player who ran
through seventy million dollars or some shit like that. Seventy million.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Was it seventy or was it twenty twenty? I think
it was twenty million.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Same thing, bitch, you give me twenty or seventy right now, like,
you don't have to worry about me for the rest
of my life and the next generation because I'm going
to flip it, right. But you have to have the
financial literacy to do that. So you you get with
a person I'm unna say, man and woman you're the breadwinner.
You get with a person who doesn't even know how
to manage money and they just think that they just
(54:32):
have free access to do whatever the fuck they want
to do with your money, and they fucking it up,
you'll go broke. And that could be why she's trying
to separate herself, separate finances with a divorce, same thing
what Porscha did. Porsia did with Simon. You know, Simon
did appear to have all his money, but obviously it
wasn't legal some of it probably.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Well, I don't even want to get it to portion
to sign me because then it was just a miss
how it started and had ended.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah it was, but she had had to sever times
before she get caught up in his bullshit and whatever
else he had going on that she knew of her.
So maybe that's what they might just be getting divorced
on paper for tax purposes.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
I don't know, right, we won't know all right. What's
your final takeaway at your last last for this?
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I think I already said it, really, I don't know.
Know your personnel. Don't be shitting on your partner is
the reason why you got with this person. Okay, don't
be shitting on them. But again, ebbs and flow of life.
You might not always be up and you're not gonna
always be down spect you know who you with, especially
if y'all got kids together, she can get real nasty
(55:43):
and ugly, like this girl had in Vitro. Two babies
and no one in vitrol right, and another one they
did a surrogate to have mm right. So she had
been she's been doing life with him, just still using
her as an example for the conversation disrespecting people. Man,
I don't know, and find a nigga who make more
money than you. That is still the standard in case
(56:04):
you could avoid all this so you can avoid problems.
Is going to be a problem if you make more
money than him.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
It's just his Yeah, I think my last last week.
Success doesn't kill relationships. Ego does. So until you work
on your ego, it can fail. It can and will fail.
Ego death.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, but that's in every relationship, man, you say, that's
every relationship. That's every relationship that ego. Yeah, ego definitely
has shit fucked up. Yeah, with your mama, with your lovers, work,
all of that. You know, sometimes you check it at
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the door.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Period.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
We got a dumbit story. No, okay, all right, y'all.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
What's up y'all? At your girl a j holiday? What's
up to? Dam?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I love y'all, Havy Thanksgiving folks, I love y'all. How
do we get to?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I like to say what you're grateful for this week?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, that's a good question. I am grateful for good health.
I'm grateful for healthy relationships. I'm grateful for bundle deals tomorrow.
I'm grateful for my side teeth. Yo, I am. I
(00:53):
was just looking on I'm grateful for that the Lord,
and I'm grateful for we talk about podcasts. What about
to hear it?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Let me see what I'm grateful for this week? Mmmm? Family? Right?
Always grateful for good good health. If you can't find
anything to be grateful for, but your ass have have
a good bill of health, there goes your reason. Definitely grateful,
(01:22):
Definitely grateful for We Talk Back. Okay, grateful for this
macaroni and cheese I make because it's really all I
have to eat for Thanksgiving. You know, I'm eating a
nigga food and yeah, family, friends, all the good things.
That's what I'm grateful for.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Man, what are you cooking? Just mac and cheese? That's it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Cheese is seafood, salad, and I got to make my own.
Like I'll probably make like some salmon and something like that,
like a filet salmon, because I don't need the meats,
some pies and what else am I responsible for? I
make a crap some crab rice.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
M h that's it, and almost some of the up
put some in the milk.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It be busting too. I put a little bit of
coconut cream in there. M hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That sounds nice. I'm first of all, I'm responsible for
five different family families macaroni and cheese, and I don't
know how I set myself like charging it. Yeah, I'm selling.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Okay, I'm about to say, y'all. One year, me and
Tammy swapped rare rice for macaroni, Like, but I wait
a minute, I actually made the red rice for you,
and all you gave me was the macaroni cheese recipe.
What wake a minute? What's happening? What that has has
tweaked a little bit bit because I'm not putting all
that goddamn heavy whooping cream. Y'all. See how many calories
(02:39):
and heavy whooping cream?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You just only eat it on Thanksgiving and like Eastern Christmas,
that's the only time you eat that type of macaroni
and cheese cake.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Take for us to get them calories off from Thanksgiving,
I'm taking I take a laxative on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Mhm. So there's that. Don't do that, folks, though, because
I think that might be called laxative abuse. I'm not sure,
but I do take one so I can't empty out
all of that stuff right right, drink that tea baby. Anyway,
I'm responsible for macaroni and cheese, the dressing, a banana pudding,
(03:19):
and corn bread, all carbs, heavy carbs. That's so that's
all my job.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That's all good. How you do your corn brand, I
should be damning like a cake girl with a little
crusty little top.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah. Same, It be kind of cakey, it be kind
of sweet, and I put a cane butter on mine.
Let me tell you what. Let me tell you a
secret ingredient. And y'all might think it's bad, but it
tastes so good, y'all. It's a can of cream corn
in there, like Yeah, I've seen people make it like that,
but I don't want the corn.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That doesn't make it extra sweet, but I don't want
the corn in there. And then depending on where brand
and cream, corn that should be starchy as hell, be
sticking to you teeth.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It is start teeth, but so good. It's so good.
So I'm making that. I got, you know what, this
recipe I got from my friend. I haven't tried it yet,
but I've tried hers and it was so good. You know,
hit her up like can you I have your corn
bread recipe and she's sitting mm hmm yeah, kind of
like a hush yep. So good. So you have carbub
(04:25):
Tanya is doing the greens and yams. I typically do
the yams too, but I'm not doing everything. You know,
I ain't got my own house yet, so how I'm
cooking all the damn food.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So that part you ain't put out no Christmas tree
yet this year, I guess to be up until March.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I can't put up like I don't move into it.
So I found a place, but I'm gonna move in
till January, so I can't put it. I ain't putting
up on Christmas tree. But my mom is. I'm sure
she's gonna put up a tree at some point.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I ain't putting up shit, bitch. I don't even got
a couch in it, so I do have chairs, have
a couch that I want yet, So maybe if I
get a couch within the next week or two, I'll
get a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Why don't you? It's Black Friday sales that like, I've.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Seen a so far went from Ashley Furniture yesterday, So
I need the black fat Friday sale. Is not black
enough for me?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh yeah, but just enough. The Black Friday sales used
to be just on Friday, and they used to be
super sales. Now they start on the week before and
it just based a regular sale.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No I need like this fucking couch is almost five
thousand dollars. No, right the fuck? I need forty percent off?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah yeah, that's how it used to be on Black Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
No no more, ain't no damn sales. It's finesse.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Zara opens up December first, and Charlotte and you know
it's gonna be madness, and my friends are.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Like, all and Charleston, man, what the hell?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
My friends are like, we don't want to go into January.
I'm going right on be out there with the whole
the masses on December first, fighting over. I had it first, No,
I had had at first, like I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Because I wanted to order some airrings from Zara, like
I need a local Zara mm hm, because they be
having all a cute shit, last minute shit. You always
could find you something Zara. Yep, I'm excited anyway. Weekend,
y'all know what it was. Y'all know what time it is.
I't do much this weekend. He did max it out again.
I did find a comforter that I was looking for
(06:31):
last week. Some said, actually go back a home Goods today.
I went back in home Goods. I got my comforter. Okay,
so that's all I had going on this weekend, and
my boot thing in town for the holidays.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So boo boot up m I did. I worked like
a Hebrew slave this weekend. You know, right before the holidays.
Everybody wants to hurt them when I tell you I worked.
I put it in forty eight hours in four days.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Mmmm.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And that's I feel like. That's all I did was
work and sleep for four days straight, like, and not
a lot of sleep either, and my feet hurts so bad. Like,
I went out and bought me some Hokahs because I
can't live.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Like six a six They good standing and running.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Boy, I went and got them ships because when I
tell you, my feet was on fire so bad. I
was supposed to apply to New York, I couldn't even go.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You know you're supposed to wear them little old lady's shoes.
I'm a little They look like penny loafers, a little
bit like round the square tow in the front. That's
oide of all the ladies who used to do it
do here back in the day. Those are the shoes
they wore that. Those are for standing all day long,
stothing cute.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, no, I got them ugly, that's hokah them. She's
as ugly as hell. But I got them because I
will never put my feet to fed again.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
The so of them Hoka's like four inches.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
They're urguly fuck but they feel like you're walking on
the cloud and I need that. Let's get into stands.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I know the whole world saw Summer Walker this past weekend.
Missus Pizza hut okay sparked a lot of it. Did it?
Did I feel like I've been bamboozled with these albums. Right,
I feel like I've been bamboozled because I don't know that. Okay,
(08:24):
let's back up a little bit. Okay, So this past week,
Summer Walker had a lot of controversy right between her
and I don't know why the hell I kept wanting
to call his boy rich Omi Kwan but Rich the Kid, Okay,
Rich the Kid who is who has been in a
long term relationship with Tory Briggs. Right, No, they're not married.
(08:46):
Do they have one or two? I think they got
like two kids together or something like that. But she's
been known for having to beat bitches up over him. Okay,
going to jail this type of shit. These are the
things that have transpired over the years. So Summer Walker.
This weekend, Tory Briggs released audio of her basically telling
(09:06):
Rich the Kid how he can just just get a
second cell phone and save her number as pizza hut.
She don't give a fuck like she's cool in the
position that she's currently playing, which is side bitch, and
she says she has been in this position for many years.
At this point, they've been fucking run off and on
and if he's opening the wallet, her hands is out
(09:28):
like this. Remember that means she had what she was
giving her baby, baby daddy back to the niggas, I mean,
back to the streets. So she's saying, if the wallet opens,
her hands is open, like obviously the legs is open
to How are you feeling about Summer Walker right now?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm disappointed in her. You know when she said when
she was coaching a nigga on how to keep her
a side bitch, like save my number, it's pizza hut.
That was just the lowest of the low. You don't
think you deserve better than that, baby girl. You are
not a pizza place. You are a whole, mother, a
(10:09):
whole You're a singer with a beautiful voice. You have
so much to give to the world, and here you
are minimizing yourself. Dude, they got what don't They got
five dollar personal pans right now? Like girl get.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
She's a five dollar foot log. So that made me
say why I say side bitches could get beat up sometimes, right? So, no,
they're not married, they're allegedly engaged Tory Briggs and Rich
the Kid Summer Worker Walker. You notice you make albums
about how many and shit? How you know the heart
(10:47):
of a woman is the only reason why these niggas
is breathing. But here you are doing the same shit
that you sing about to the next woman. That's this
is why side bitches have to take accountability. Yes, the
homeworkerd is the motherfucker that's in the home. But your
man cannot cheat unless there is a nigga. Excuse me,
she had nigga too, unless there is a nigga bitch
(11:07):
willing to complete, willing to compete, right, so there's always
somebody willing to compete. Rich the kid. Now, Ever, since
this now I have been tallying up her bodies, I'm
now taking a look at the men she has let
have access to her box. Right, and y'all that just
ain't who y'all think y'all are? Rich the kid? God
(11:30):
damn uh low funky Mac, what's the what's the low one? Uh?
What's the name? Says musty.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Little meach Low meach.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Her baby daddy, the two baby daddies, and then the
nigga who she was just dating recently, who just came
home from prison. It was like he was in her
DM for years and I guess she finally gave him
a chance in any video I saw her in with
this nigga. She was looking uncomfortable, like, why am I
fucking with him? You know what I'm saying. He would
be saying, its a big shit.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
She's just a broken girl, That's what I think. You know,
she's broken. I just think she kind of she's a
fucking hood rat and she like her rat niggas like
they're doing her rat shit and it's cool. Well, I
mean hood rat. I don't know. I don't know she's
a hood rat, but I think she's just making poor choices.
She's mismanaging her body for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Somemawaka Suki Hannah, Sexy Red, that's her click. Oh they
are all, Yes, they are all friends. They be hanging
out and listen them bitches is comedians as far as
that with certain when I them bitches as funny as hell,
all of them. Someone Walker is hilarious to me, just
on some regular goofy shit. But this is not putting
(12:44):
her in a good light. And then for you ton't
on live disparaging toy bricks the way you did, like
she's wrong. Yeah, this do for her relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That's the other thing. If you are complicit in being
on the side at least have the slightest amount of
ego about yourself to not be coming at the other woman,
like damn, that should be embarrassing that you shouldn't be embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
At her because she put that some Walker didn't like
the light she was being shining because of that video
that Tory Briggs posted with her saying how she is
okay being aside you know what I'm saying. She even
liked that nigga. Yeah, so she Tory posted a video, right,
and then someone Walker went on a live talking about
(13:32):
her relationship with Rich the Kid and talk about basically
Rich the Kid's relationship with his kid's mom, and in
the midst of that, she's disparaging another woman. It was
just kind of mean, girlish. I understand, Like, yeah, listen, yeah,
Like I said, the home record is the motherfucker in
the home. But you have to take some responsibility for
(13:53):
the bullshit because you're not looking. You don't look cute
in that situation at all.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Nothing about it makes you look good.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, nothing you could say a dude.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Sweetpea baby, I wouldn't have never went live. I would
have been if I went live, I would have promoted
my album. Since everybody looking over here, y'all go, y'all
go listen to my album right now. It's been out
since Thursday. Y'all sit, make my shit training something. I
would never have mentioned that woman or that man period.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah. I definitely would have tried to like make some
make some live shit out of it, because it ain't
no way I would get up there talking crazy about
that girl like you ain't wrong?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Did you wrong as a mother for And this is
rich to kid? How much money he got? I know
Summer Walker got more money to him. You got to
actually like that nigga? Why you fuck with him? Ain't boy?
No check. You try to convince us that you don't
like him. You like him right because you got enough
money you're getting like it cannot He's not giving you
that much money to where you like you. You want
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to play a side bitch to this nigga for this,
I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's given like so rich men. You know how some
women like whoever liked them. That's what it feels.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But he don't like you, you know what I'm saying.
Rather you like people what I don't like about women
who be like in the side position. Like they always
want to down the main person, right and say how
stupid she is. Both of y'all getting the same raw dick.
You're getting the same money. You're not getting any better
treats than she is. Like she might be having to
(15:29):
deal with a little bit more headaches from him. But
in those audios, she was saying, like, you know how
he is, like you start trying to stop talking to him,
he's calling your manager, he's stalking like so basically like
he's keeping you wrapped up in this thing and you
love it. Mm hm because they got law enforcement change
your number. You are a Summer Walker. This is all
(15:50):
I'm like, who are you? And now at this point,
I don't know not to say that we even know
like celebrities, like we don't know who these people are.
But she's a fucking at this point, That's how I'm
looking at her, Like, girl, what And I love somemer Walker. Man,
I love Summer Walker.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, me too. I hope she finds a way to
redeem herself from this.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
This is the bitch story.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, and we've all been wanted once or twice, but
this is this is a dumb bitch Olympics.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Like big lot meech like he was lying, saying he
was just dropping groceries off to his cousin. He like
on the ring cam, like going to a bitch apartment,
like playing with Summer Walker. Right, so when you think
you who you are, right and niggas be playing in
your face like this, that shit has to fuck with
your esteem. And I think that's what we're looking at, right,
(16:47):
You're not looking at a confident woman. No, that's not
what I'm saying, because you wouldn't be You wouldn't be
second best to any bitch. And Tory Briggs is a
beautiful girl, you know what I'm saying. He should not
be dealing with the shit she's dealing with from him.
But she's now she has two kids with him, you
know what I'm saying, So whatever whatever her reasons are
for staying with him, or her reasons, and some Walker
(17:10):
was like, if I really wanted him, you would be
homeless today. That is so mean.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, that's that's gross. But you know what we were
talking about them he has He is the problem. He
is the real problem. Some of it has her problems too,
things that she needs to fix. But Rich the kid
needs to be Rich the man, and stop playing with
these women in their hearts.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
These are people who are in public relationships. And Tory
Briggs has been with Rich the Kid throughout all the
relationships some of Walker has had publicly, right, So as
long as you've had these relationships, you know, had a
set of twins, another kid, you've known that this woman
has been with this man. So what point do you
know fuck with this man knowing this? Like when do
(17:55):
we are not saying you got to be a girl's girl,
but you know, the man in relationship, no matter what
the fuck he say, he's publicly in a relationship with
this woman. So at some point we gotta we gotta
have a little onus, you know, in the in the situation,
this ship is not fucking cute. Yeah, and you be
singing about niggas not being shipped, because oftentimes, if you've
never experienced a man who is this ship, chances out
(18:18):
you ain't shit either. Anybody you fucked with it ain't shit.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That part. What about speaking of side bitches, This side
bitch hopped in the grave in front of the wife
in the family of her dead person.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, their dead nigga, this is she deemed it. My
thing is you hopping in the grave. You ain't paid
for a bitch, did you? Did you put in on
this coffin? You don't put a d in hopping in
this six foot hold.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Oh they didn't lower it in front of the family.
No more for this specific reason people jumping in.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No, yeah, I just I mean I with my home
girl funeral. They definitely lowered it in the ground. But
I don't know if we had any used to people
out there who about to hop in, right, they should
have start throwing that dirt and see she would have
hopped out. And it was a white woman.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Was she white? Because I couldn't tell.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I saw a real beige black back. And then yeah,
I got her and they was all around her beating her.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, she could have been been theirs because they sounded
like black with folks.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And you know that women were black, right, the white
and all the man who passed his black, the family's black.
But the person who jumped in that grave was definitely
looking like a slim, crackhead white lady.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You couldn't tell. All you saw was the slither of
her back. But that hair.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Looked kind of sticky, it's getting sticky. It looked kind
of sticky.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That could just be the weave, could have.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Been could have been a twenty seven piece cutting a
little morehawk looking.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, there was a waiting. I'm so glad that her
face wasn't shown, just for her sake, because how embarrassing.
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I thought they had possibly pushed her in there.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
No, she was just so broken by the loss of
this person.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I ain't never see nobody that much in grief that
they jump on the grave. But they tore her ass up.
She learned a valuable lesson. I think, Yeah, just keep
it quiet to the end. I mean, he gone. He
was silent in life, be silent in.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Death, or at least pay for something. If it's if
I got to bury my husband that you've been fucking on.
You better not show up at this goddamn funeral empty handed.
Need I need of what I spent on this funeral.
You ain't just about to come enjoy a damn chicken
and fried chicken plate and macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You can't come to the repair at all, Like, please,
I listen, I won't tell you can't come to the funeral,
but please don't come to the repair.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Why would you. Why would you be coming to the
funeral as a side bitch. This d side bitch is
getting out of control in mourning. She mourning at the house.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Don't come. You can't come to the repairs though you
were areen.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So this America's next top model model I think is
her name, Kenya Kenya Hill. M h uh. She is
now threatening to sue this streamer he pulled up. You know,
they be on the streets pulling up telling people they
are putting them on stream talking or whatever. But she started,
you know, recording them on her live excuse me, not
(21:28):
on her live on her story. She started recording a
video for her story, and she asked him for a
kiss on the cheek, and this young man declines and
walks off like people are crazy. Now she's on a rant.
She's ritting off all over social media now wanting to
sue because she said she asked him not to use
(21:49):
the footage. Mind y'all, this is streaming. The footage is live.
Is no way of deleting it, right, So obviously the
incident was our aready clipped. And I feel like this
just shows just how women cannot take rejection like men do,
because why you thought, why would he want to kiss
(22:10):
you on the cheek? Who are you? And why does
he have to kiss you on the cheek? And now
you're upset he didn't kiss you on the cheek and
you want all the content removed our social media because
you look crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I'm confused as to why she wanted this stranger to
kiss her on in the first place, where she just
found him attractive or something, or what was that about.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It was kind of weird, right, Yeah, I think it's
just for content purposes, possibly, you know what I'm saying,
Like he's saying how he's up for a Grammy this.
I guess she might have perceived him as somebody who
was possibly lit and I'm just assuming from one of
these content creators minds, maybe this is what it was. Yeah,
(22:53):
but I don't know. I just I that would never
be a goal too.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
To be like, put one right here, boy, If you
don't get out on face, I don't know where your
mouth been.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah. So it was weird, and it was a weird
exchange in her part, and I think that that's why
she wanted the video to be taken down. But it's
already live, sweety, so people saw you getting curved for
a fake kiss on the streets, and in the video
looks like she was stopping him to talk. I don't know,
it's just weird. She got her a little five minutes, right.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So this is gonna take us into our topic today.
I don't know if y'all saw, but Candy Birds has
fouled for divorce from Todd Tucker. Candy Birds Tucker excuse
me has fouled for divorce from Todd Tucker. A video
resurface of showing Todd saying women who don't want to
(23:51):
share their wealth will end up by themselves. We just
want to have a conversation about can women be more
successful than their spouse and stay in a relation ship
or stay married? So we're gonna get into that when
we come back. All right, y'all went back? Hey, y'all,
AJ was making your face? Y'all you crazy? Or the
(24:13):
topic is kim relationships last if the woman is more successful? Now,
I wanted to talk about this. I don't know if
that's why their marriage is dissolving. Let me just say
that it could be many reasons. Who knows what it is.
But because that conversation that video resurfaced, I wanted to talk.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
About, like.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Successful women in their relationships with men, if they're with
a man who is not as successful as them, do
we know a lot of them? Are they healthy relationships?
Are they happy? Are the men happy? Are they bitter?
Do they resent the woman? Because I feel like a
lot of times we are society, a man's value is
(24:55):
directly tied to what he brings to the table. So
if he's not the bread winner, is he a valuable partner?
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah? I mean just because the everybody, including men, know
that they have to produce. It's just it is what
it is. And I think that sometimes men, instead of
working towards putting themselves in a position to produce more,
they will create issues elsewhere, right, like the woman or
(25:29):
the relationship will become the problem as to why they
aren't producing. Men like men with money, women like men
with money. It's just, it is what it is. It's
one of those double standards. But I think when you
have women we kind of talked about this a couple
episodes ago. What was it was one of your friends
(25:50):
we had on the show, and she was in corporate
and we were talking about you know, women, black women
with day degrees and money and all women sometimes they yeah,
they sometimes, you know, and not not just tech obviously,
right because because Candy is, she's been in entertainment since
they were, since she was a teenager. This like the
world has known who Candy was for a very long time, right,
(26:13):
so her success did not just start with Todd right
right now, what they build together, that's it's just separating. Sorry,
And I even feel the same way if it were
the man who was was a bread winner. I don't.
I don't believe in like taking somebody's somebody for everything
(26:33):
they are they have. I don't believe in that at
the end of a relationship that ship has kind of
fucked up. To me, you you leave with what you
came with or whatever we acquired together. But I think
that men say that they can deal with that with
making a funny face, I wonder why they say. Men
(26:54):
say that they can deal with that, But I really
don't think they can. And as much as a woman
will try to like coddle them and make them feel like, hey,
it's okay, it is something in the man, right. He
wants to produce, he wants to do more, and whatever
is prohibiting that, it has nothing to do with the woman.
But I have seen this in real life. Okay, women
(27:15):
making the more more money, the women making moves, and
then they have this failure to launch as dude. And
I'm not saying that's Todd's position, right, I'm just saying,
in like real life situations I've seen and woman, the
woman is always like overcompensating for him.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, this one's about to say, do you feel like
when women are more successful they have to shrink or
downplay their accomplishments to make that man feel secure. Do
you feel like that's.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
It may not be necessary and men may say they
don't need it, but there's a reason why this woman
starts doing that because men will have like little big
money or I can't you be like trying to clock
with the woman is spending money on I know a
guy who was in a relationship with a woman and
she was a doctor. He's like in tech, like its
for the government. But this woman she was a doctor,
(28:11):
but and she worked in the emergency room, so she
just worked all day long, outsourced everything. She even wanted
to outsource a baby if they were to get married
and have a kid, Like she's like, I don't want
to have the baby, like I want to pay for
a zarrogan so because she was in a position to
spend the money, and she never once said anything to
him about not making as much as she did it.
(28:34):
Once they broke up, it played out in all his
relationships after that. I just felt like he's he always
felt inadequate in every relationship after that, even though he
made money, he just never made four hundred thousand dollars
like this.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
But she was with, yeah, that's what I'm about to say, Like,
because he could be successful still, but as long as
he's not as successful as his counterpart, there is some
type of ego thing going on where he can't he
doesn't feel like the man.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But then we do it, and I think the women
are like this, this is our as long as we together,
this is our money. But you're not about to leave
and take half my shit. No nobody wants that.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Man don't want, right, But oftentimes women do. When they leave,
they get a lot, you know.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, because oftentimes the woman leaves with the kids too.
So you think you're supposed to put three babies in
and they're not supposed to have the same lifestyle that
you afforded when we were together. That's where the extra
money comes in at right, So you still gotta pay
for the private school. We gotta. You have to still
pay for those kids to live as if they were
living with you. And you could take Shaquille O'Neil for example,
(29:38):
when Shannie left, like he he would rather pay Shanni
all this money than they have to deal with them,
fucking kidding night. So we got the money to do it?
Why not? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But I can imagine Candy being like, you can get
the fuck out like real quick to tie you know.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I can't though my mother Candy is a nice No,
I think Candy is nice. I can't imagine Candy because
I feel like Candy would be one of those women
over compensating for him because remember her mama did not
at some point, Yeah, okay, her mama didn't like Todd initially.
And you know she was already on house eves of
(30:14):
Atlanta before even being a house housewife. She had like
a boyfriend or fiance is somebody that got help club
or some shit in Atlanta, and now she met Todd.
Todd is now on the show. What you do see
Todd doing on the show is presenting all these different
business ideas and shit like that over the years, and
like the Old Lady Gang, the restaurant and all that
shit like that. Those were all Todd's ideas. And that
(30:38):
ship like up right now and that's a failing business.
That old a gang closed down. Yeah, they had like
a lot of little legal issues. So maybe I don't know,
maybe invested in these some of the business's ideas that
he came up with, might have you know, cost her money.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Their money that she.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
That Listen if if you if you come in and
cost them money, We'll say that right, because that's what
Todd would would like to say. But if I had
to use my money for the initial investment on this thing,
you would have never gotten this thing off the ground
had it. Now I could take me for a fucking example,
and it God theren food truck trap veggie. Okay, nigga
(31:19):
kill me with the idea. I'm like, yeah, now, mind you.
I would be the cook on the truck too, because
he ain't cooking shit.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Did it ever come out?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
He probably still eating you probably no, uh huh. I
still own the business, but he has the truck. So
whenever I get myself situated, I still want to do
my business. My business. I had to argue with this
nigga about my business because I invested the initial like
how you I've never been able to tell a nigga
my dreams, and they invested in the day one like here,
(31:47):
let's go buy the truck. Let's I bought the truck,
I put the transmission in it. Now I got to
argue with this nigga about who owns the actual name
of the business, because people be messaging me wanting to
buy the business name itself. Hm, you know what? And
in his mind he thinks he owns something because he
did like the fabrication of the truck, But you don't.
You don't own it, like you eventually put more money
(32:09):
into the business than I did, but it never got going.
I never got my return on investment. At least you
still got the truck. So it's it's were you. Would
you have ever done this without me? That that would
be my question. Could Todd have opened a restaurant or
I don't know what he was doing prior to Candy.
We know her money? Was you finial?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
He was working in production on the show because that's
where they met. He was on like the production team.
He was in entertainment as well, but so you remember
that man. They went to Africa and they threw he
threw them bones, and he told Candy that she was
gonna get married to somebody who was there with them now,
and he told Charay she would never get married again.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, is that the same episode? Porschia the persons here,
porscha she was gonna be with a woman.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, I don't remember, but she is dating the woman now?
Is I will throw some bones from me and tell
me what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So she married him and no getting divorced. I guess
he didn't say they would stay together. He just said,
you know, I love short man. I love short man, y'all. Okay, go,
I said, I'm a short man advocate. But I can
see on Todd's face that that niggas a sassy problem.
I could see on his face that he would be
a fucking problem. Like you short, you're short for meau.
(33:30):
Some niggas be like they really have like the Napoleon syndrome. Right,
So you short, and on top of that, your woman
making more money than you.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, that could cause a problem ego. So all right,
so how can it actually work?
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
What what would a woman need in a man for
that ship to actually make sense.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It work, like if she had all the money and
he hadn't. I don't I don't think it can't not work, right,
But I don't think that the men would allow it
to work. I know another couple who the woman has
been a breadwinner the majority of the relationship, and I
have heard him say that he's okay with that, He's
okay with his wife making more money than him. He
(34:15):
speaks about her for on one k as if it's theirs.
You know what I'm saying, she allows it. So who
is you know, anybody outside the relationship to say anything. Now,
I know for a fact that this woman does not
emasculate this man, and if she does, it is never
(34:35):
in public. Okay, So she's saying some shit to him
in the bedroom, like you ain't even pulling you a weight, nigga,
Like that's not even emasculating. It's like it's the truth, right,
I would never know if that's happening, right, But the
way this person, everything he everything that comes out of
his mouth just sounds like he's just trying to overcompensate
(34:56):
for not producing.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And I think that's just it. Think but it's also
a societal thing because men in this country, men are
made to feel less than when they can't produce, right.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think that's all countries. It's just that in other
countries it's known that a man has to take care
of his family. It's almost like it's up for debate.
In America, the fuck it's not up for debate.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But in their situation, they ain't even taking care because
I think he probably could take care of the family
off of what he makes, but they taking care of
different life. Yeah, there's a different kind of take care
when it comes to Candy Birds and people who have
in that tech record.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
And I don't even see Candy as like super flashy,
you know what I'm saying. Like, I think Candy probably
lives made more way more modest than her bank account
it actually allowed. Yeah, so I don't I don't see
her just being a super flashy person that he got
it like she She's just real modest to me. So
(35:57):
if a man had to be with any woman that
had more money than him, it would be her. But
the problem is is that it's the man's ego that
couldn't deal with that. So I can't say one little
thing to you about finances without you getting upset. I
can see that happening, you know what I'm saying, like
or just even like you got to pay the cost
to be the boss. It just is what it is.
(36:20):
So whoever has more resources, more assets, oftentimes they are
going to be the one to make the decisions. You
playing with somebody else.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Money, right, So here is when it actually can work,
because I mean, I just when I listen to you,
I think about when it's flipped, and I'd be all
for that. You know, when it's the woman, I'll be
like and so and so. Well, when it's the man,
I'll be like mm hmm. So I know it's like.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Because I think women accept that my man is a
brand winner. Women are usually you know, and the women
are the homemaker, right, And I think men, if the
man isn't good with the money, he'll give all his money,
how much ever money he's making, to them. He's handling
a check book, she's handling their lives. Some men do
that even if they're the ones making all of the
(37:06):
Money's that's what I'm saying. It depends on the man.
I don't think a woman can do anything different in
that dynamic.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
So yeah, unless she is complicit in shrinking and playing
small even though she is a breadwinner. So it says
can it actually work? Yes, when a man is emotionally secure,
the roles are flexible dot rigid. Both partners value teamwork
(37:33):
over power, and communication is honest and consistent, And it
says no when the woman feels she has to shrink
when he competes with her, when money becomes a weapon
or a scoreboard, or when ego is valued over partnership.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's pretty much it. There's a lot of women out
here who have invested in men. You know, the Internet
really will be fooling you. Like women ain't shit. We
just want to We just want to use all these
men for money, you know, when most men do not
have as much money as the Internet presents. The average
man doesn't, average woman doesn't. Most people are in the trenches.
(38:17):
So the situations you find like the people who I know,
like in medical profession, like doctors like that, and they
get with regular niggas who'd be watching video games and
shit like that. It is a recipe for the like
for disaster, because first of all, you can't give somebody
drive either, right, you still want to find somebody that's
(38:38):
equally yoked.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, I agree, but you gotta find somebody because I
definitely have a friend who left her husband because he
just was not financially ambitious, right, So she decided to
move on, and then she ultimately went back to him
because he was an excellent dad. He was so good
with the kids, He loved her fully, he never cheated
(39:03):
on her, he never did anything wrong, and he was
a good dad. But he just wasn't He was okay
with working a simple nine to five like that didn't
afford him a lot, but he would work. He just
wasn't trying to be the CEO of the company. That
was not his ambition. And she ultimately went back because
(39:25):
she felt like the value he did bring outweighed any
money that anybody else could have brought to her ultimately,
and I thought that was beautiful. And they're still married
now and they're happy. I mean, I'm sure they have
their issues like any other couple, but overall they're happy,
you know, And I admire that so much because I
(39:50):
don't know if I would have went back, you know,
I don't know if I would have, but it worked
for her and her family, so it can work. I
say all of that to say that can work.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, But he, to me, he's still in the position
of just think about women who get left by men
and the men the man is the provider, and the
man can come and go when they want to. That's
essentially what she did to her husband. Mm like she
left them, went to see what was outside, realizing shit
out there, and came back home. How many men can
you really play with like that, whether they got it
(40:23):
or not. Not many. So, like, he's definitely in a
I don't know what role he playing. I don't know.
I don't know what role it is that he's playing.
M H.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Great, So I have him advice to offer for our
listeners male and female. For the women, don't dim your
life ever. Choose emotional mature men, emotionally mature men, because
if not, they're not there. They're always going to resent
you if you make more money than them. And attention
(40:56):
to his reaction to your success.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Well, that's a big one, y'all. I talk about this
on this show before, y'all. Our first episode dropped and whatever.
January twenty twenty one, and I'm so happy, Tell me happy,
Like I'm on a computer I'm looking at analytics, like
I'm trying to see, like what kind of numbers were doing.
And my fiance at the time comes downstairs and the
(41:20):
first thing he says to me all day that day
is you a hope.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
But it's on the show.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
You a hoe. I'm like, Yo, this nigga, he took
me to lunch, He's say congratulation. Oh nothing, that is
that's the And he was already walking around the house
with a whole fucking attitude. I'm not knowing why not,
mind y'all. This nigga wanted to produce our show, like
he wanted to be hands on involved with our show.
And I'm like, you don't have time, Like we're trying
(41:48):
to start one business. You already own a business that
you're running one hundred percent of the time yourself. Right,
It's not like you can step away from that shit.
You don't have the time to fuck with my shit.
But that was his way to control have some control
over or something I was trying to do outside of him.
You gotta be careful with people like that, right, Because
he didn't know me prior to knowing me, right, so
he didn't like when we met. I wasn't on my shit.
(42:12):
I just wasn't. It took me a long time to
get back on my shit. Bitch, I feel like I
was rich in my twenties, Jeremy. And then it's the
ebbs and flow of you know what I'm saying. Shit
fucking happens. And this is when I met this man.
So I don't know if he where he thought he
was on a totem pole in comparison to where I was.
But the moment I started operating outside of his fucking program,
(42:35):
it was a problem. And I ain't never somebody you
can control, like I'm not programming. Okay, I'm not controllable,
so it's gonna be an uphill battle when you fuck
with me. So back to him asking me if I'm
a hole? Okay, listen, depends on the week.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
No more.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
I'm talking about not even what is a hole? Okay,
there's my question? What is a hole? So I took
myself to lunch. I took myself to get me a
nutting but cupcake, cause what the fuck? Okay, to celebrate myself.
And he was still harassing me, calling my cell phone
and I finally answered, and he I said, you know what, motherfucker,
(43:12):
I am a hoe. Now what now, what you're gonna
do that You're engaged to this whole you were living
with each other day in and then out day out. You
see my moves, So to even ask me some shit
like that. Because of the commentary we have on the show,
Tammy and I were trying to find ourselves. We were
trying to see how we wanted to present to the world.
Were talking about the very first episode and our first
few episodes is raunchy as a motherfucking for no damn reason. Okay,
(43:36):
but we have sense grown, right, and I just wasn't
given a space to do that in that relationship. Like
I was being fucking censored in a real in a
real way. But yeah, like that was the first thing
he said to me, and it really was, you know,
to make me feel a way about myself. But when
you know thyself, can't nobody do that to you?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
So self awareness is number one. So if you in
a marriage, you're making more money than your man, right,
it's making like nobody should ever be making you feel
like you and you because.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Bitch, and you should never shrink it. And the last
one for women is to set boundaries early. And for
the men, your value isn't only financial, So that's that's
the biggest one. For men, your value is not only
(44:31):
connected to your money.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Largely though unfortunately it's just one of those things. It's
just and I think men know that innately. They know
that they have to have money and they feel happy
when they do. Men feel happy when they can take
care and do stuff for people without blinking an eye
like that is that they don't even that is their
fucking sweet spot. They don't even realize it. This is
(44:55):
why you focus on the fucking money before you start
having kids. Yeah, but focus on getting the bag first.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
But you know, some people are going to have a
regular nine to five and that will be their life.
It's gonna be some worker bees out here. And I
don't want a worker bee person listening to this and
feeling like he ain't worth nothing because he ain't the CEO.
That's not true because your value is not really financial.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
M So I feel like I'm a worker bee. You
a worker bee no, and we produce it. You don't
think you no?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
So what are you? What's your what's your? What is
the CEO? I just ain't They're just working.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
I'm a CEO. I'm just not there yet.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Oh that's a great example set, right. I can't fuck
with a poor man. I cannot fuck with somebody who
has a poor mindset. So I feel like most women,
I always say this, We're not expecting you to have
it today, but you have to have a mindset of
a millionaire because if you keep that mindset, you will
get you in your family to where you want them
(46:01):
to be at. And you can't blame anybody else on
the way there because you don't have yet. I feel
like that's what I was experiencing. A nigga didn't have
a million dollars yet, and he was laming me for it,
like you ain't have a million when I met you,
and I accepted you where the fuck you were, and
in my mind we were going to build the million
dollars together. But what I realized is you can't really
(46:22):
help men build.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And but here's the thing. You can help man build.
You can. I've seen a lot of people get a
man and it was turn to turn that man into
the powerhouse that he It was somebody when he met her,
and then when she got into his life, he turned
into somebody different. But everybody, how many people got it?
I ain't got a lot, but the man stay, he exists.
(46:46):
But everybody go ain't to be a millionaire. Some people
just want to have a car, food, take a vacation
every now and then, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah, you gotta know your person Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
And and I don't want people to listen and think
that they have no value because they not. They don't
aspire it to that.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
When people listen to things. First of all, you gotta
have some discernment. You also have to know that this
the set, these these conversations are way more vast than
we could put into an hour long episode. Right, So
of course I'm not saying like women, if you got
a man, you gotta build, but Bill wouldn't leave him,
absolutely not. But you gotta know your personnel. You gotta
(47:29):
have discernment, understand who it is that you're dealing with.
Are you dealing with a man that you can help
build and he's not going to resent you for having
seen him when he haves shit, because that's usually what
the first babe mom experience or the woman who went
through the trenches with this man. And then he go
on and get a woman who never saw him struggle,
and that's who he marries.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
This is what I'm talking about. You gotta be careful.
You can't just do this this thing for anybody.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
No, I agree, you have to choose why. The next
one for men is learn emotional contribution. And that's a
huge one, I think because I know a lot of
women who are in relationships with men who can give
them the entire world financially, but when it comes to emotionally,
it's a drought and they're suffering in that area. So
(48:20):
it's important to learn emotional contribution because your your partner
needs that as well. Yeah, and when when you have
a partner who's doing well, celebrate her, don't resent her.
I know that's hard when you're not feeling adequate, but
you got to celebrate because your time will come if
(48:40):
you if you practice that energy. And then, like I know, I.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
Was about to say, I know a couple. You know
the couple too, and I can just see that he
is not operating in the energy he would like to
be in.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You. I know exactly who you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
And it's so sad for me to see because I
can almost see like his light them and down because
he hasn't gotten his opportunity yet. Like I said, your
partner's wins are your wins. That should be your momentum,
like your like battery to get you to do your right.
So I'm not saying not to get behind because everybody
(49:19):
could do a jay Z and what's jay z best friend.
Niggas got behind jay Z Ta ta right. All the
niggas got behind jay Z because they realized jay Z
was that nigga who was going to take them to
wherever they was going at right, and they all employed.
They're all millionaires now because they support it.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
This person the head.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yes, you gotta sometimes do that for your partner. So
if it's your wife in a position or if it's
your husband in a position, if they win, you win.
That's how you got to look at it, so you
can keep like the gratitude going. But I do strongly
believe that everybody should have their own little shit separate
outside of relationship too. You try to put all eggs
(50:00):
in a basket, she can get real messy, especially in
divorce and separation, depending on who's making all the money. Now,
this person like you're trying to take all my money
and this person. Likely when you ain't made no money
like it can get.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
You can get real, real ugly. The last one I hope, Yeah, me.
Speaker 1 (50:16):
Too, I said, I hope candy shit don't get nasty.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah yeah. And then the last one is practice partnership
not competition. It ain't nothing worse than two people in
a relationship that are in competition with each other. Oh
have you ever seen that?
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Absolutely? And you know, one person could be saying I'm
not in competition with you verbally, but all your actions
show that you are in competition. That part, right, So
make sure you're going off of actions and not what
they're saying out their mouth because they may be gas
like you. So bitch, you know what you know, You
feel how you feel for a reason, and ask somebody
(50:53):
make sure you're not tripping. But yeah, that's essentially what
I was what I was saying, focusing on the partnership part.
It shouldn't be a competition no matter who's winning, Right,
if you and I win, that's how it should be.
I agree, I agree. I just don't know, man. I
think that the sweet spot for men is being a
(51:14):
bread winner. I just think that's where they are more comfort.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yes, then you ain't never gotta worried about her.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
Well, they don't want that. This is why I say
men are more shallow than women. Men are two once
to ten. Like I feel like women are finding a
little space, like we'll make something out of nothing. But
if a man is what a woman that's doing worse
than him, please believe me, Like men are herpergamas, especially
(51:43):
black men. Them niggas is dating up. Fuck with y'all
talking while they try to make us feel bad for
dating up, you know a black Like when when when
a black woman dates like a other, a white person,
a white guy, whatever you say, When a black woman
dates a white guy, she probably got her life together.
She probably got the fucking bag too. And in her
mind that person, that particular woman's mind, right, maybe this
(52:06):
white guy is her who she's equally yoked with. Right.
When black men do it, oftentimes they think they sticking
it to the man by fucking the white girl. And
also you know, they trying to get their credit straight.
They're using her as what I'm saying, they're the ones
that are dating up to get a leg up in
society for sure, while we get looked down on for
(52:28):
digging for gold.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
That ain't there, right, that's the crazy part. I hate
when a nigga like or a man let me saying
that a man who will call a woman a gold
digger and they ain't got no gold.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Like, Yeah, what are we talking about? What y'all? Why
is this discussion about a woman taking everything you got
and you don't have nothing? What are we talking about that?
Y'all never even experienced that, So it's just be cool.
That is that man's experience. He has millions of dollars
to pay all this money and child support.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
That's not your situation that the judge will. The judge
will assign whatever is good for your pockets if you
were able in this situation, if you were ever in
this situation, for sure, I promise, Oh no, everybody get
the fucking bag. Would I take care of man? I
think my comfortable place is knowing a nigga got more
than me too. That's I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
I think I'm comfortable with that as well. However, I'm
not in a I don't right now. I don't think
I'm in a position to be with someone making lesson
than me. But if I was, if I had candy birds, money.
I don't know if I would care at that point.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
It depends, man, because people who Okay, you haven't accumulated
this wealth, right, meaning you don't know how to manage
it either. Because the one thing like, once you accumulate
the money, you have to then figure out how to
manage it, because you'll go back and broke. I was
just reading an article with this basketball player who ran
through seventy million dollars or some shit like that. Seventy million.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Was it seventy or was it twenty twenty? I think
it was twenty million.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Same thing, bitch, you give me twenty or seventy right now, like,
you don't have to worry about me for the rest
of my life and the next generation because I'm going
to flip it, right. But you have to have the
financial literacy to do that. So you you get with
a person I'm unna say, man and woman you're the breadwinner.
You get with a person who doesn't even know how
to manage money and they just think that they just
(54:32):
have free access to do whatever the fuck they want
to do with your money, and they fucking it up,
you'll go broke. And that could be why she's trying
to separate herself, separate finances with a divorce, same thing
what Porscha did. Porsia did with Simon. You know, Simon
did appear to have all his money, but obviously it
wasn't legal some of it probably.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Well, I don't even want to get it to portion
to sign me because then it was just a miss
how it started and had ended.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah it was, but she had had to sever times
before she get caught up in his bullshit and whatever
else he had going on that she knew of her.
So maybe that's what they might just be getting divorced
on paper for tax purposes.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
I don't know, right, we won't know all right. What's
your final takeaway at your last last for this?
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I think I already said it, really, I don't know.
Know your personnel. Don't be shitting on your partner is
the reason why you got with this person. Okay, don't
be shitting on them. But again, ebbs and flow of life.
You might not always be up and you're not gonna
always be down spect you know who you with, especially
if y'all got kids together, she can get real nasty
(55:43):
and ugly, like this girl had in Vitro. Two babies
and no one in vitrol right, and another one they
did a surrogate to have mm right. So she had
been she's been doing life with him, just still using
her as an example for the conversation disrespecting people. Man,
I don't know, and find a nigga who make more
money than you. That is still the standard in case
(56:04):
you could avoid all this so you can avoid problems.
Is going to be a problem if you make more
money than him.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
It's just his Yeah, I think my last last week.
Success doesn't kill relationships. Ego does. So until you work
on your ego, it can fail. It can and will fail.
Ego death.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, but that's in every relationship, man, you say, that's
every relationship. That's every relationship that ego. Yeah, ego definitely
has shit fucked up. Yeah, with your mama, with your lovers, work,
all of that. You know, sometimes you check it at
(56:47):
the door.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Period.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
We got a dumbit story. No, okay, all right, y'all.
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