Brown Girls Grinding with Loren LoRosa

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
who talks.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
What's up, y'all? Thank you for tuning in for a
new episode of We Talk Back, a show dedicated to
you dreamers and chasers. It's your co host, AJ Holiday.
What's up to you?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, y'all, It's official Tmvan. I love y'all. Thank y'all
for tuning in. Again. We got a guest with us today.
Laura le Rossa. Do her introduction. I know you got it?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, so why you let me do it? Okay? You're
not be writing nice little introductions for the guests. Okay,
all right, y'alls listen. Today's guest is simply a brown
girl grinding okay. A former news producer for TMZ, also
on air talent for over seven years. Also for the
past year, y'all have seen her as a recurring guest
host on The Breakfast Club with CHARLAMAGNEA God and DJ

(01:00):
Envy and Again. She's a producer, she's a model, she's
an actress. She's dominating and documenting her journey through the
world of entertainment via lifestyle vlogs on her self produced
YouTube channel, Lauren lo Rosa TV. And at the end
of the day, it's Lauren Lorosa. You like that?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yes, I love.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
How you bought it all together. At the end of
the day, it's new too, So you've been you, you
did your research.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
How y'all doing.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to
be with girls that talk back, because maybe I'll be
talking back and maybe like share up.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yes, how was y'all? Weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
It was good?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Not cool?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
What'd you do?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I don't really do much and nothing. I went out.
I had some friends in town. I newly got a
place here in Jersey, so just like letting people know
that I'm here and like popping out a little bit,
like dinners and stuff like that. Nothing too too crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
What about you?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I've been sick? The fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
What is happening?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Was?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Then I saw this post on social media how everybody sick?
So apparently there's something going around. And the only place
I've been to was the grocery store.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's like a cold, but it sounds like the flu.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, no, no, yeah, I call I called a SAT
I was like hello, I was like, to you I
was like, goddamn, girl.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I'm sweating right now, Like I really need like a
fan and the ice pack. I'm so hot, but it's
coming out. That's my weekend, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Let me tell y'all about my weekend. So one of
my good friends, she was having her twin babies christen
this weekend in Atlanta. So I went down to celebrate
the babies and go to the christening and it was
such a good time. And at the end of the
church service, my friend pulled me to the front. She
was like, I want to let get the pastor to
pray for you. So I went to the front and

(02:53):
the pastor like it was two of them that was
praying over me, and both of them took that holy
oil and we're like, put it in their hand right,
and they laid hands on my head right and it
was mashing it in. I feel like the pastor was
making trying to make me go down, but I was like.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
I'm not going down.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I'm not going down. I'm not going down. So he
was just mashing that holy oil right into my lace. Baby.
By the time I.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Got out, just moved back because the oil movie.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Baby, I was lifted. I was lifted in the spirit,
and so was my lace. My ship was so high up.
I was like, oh, oh my god, it looks so bad, y'all.
And I just had to walk around talking everybody. Had
you enjoyed the service? Lace? Just standing up.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Some good today because because.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I had to take that thing up and set put
it back down and you wanted to push it back anyway.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, like a hand shout and that is.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
It looked good. I feel like that on purpose. They
was trying to see if that was your hair or not.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was two it was two men too hens right there.
I was like, oh, thank you God, but too yes yes,
So hopefully the prayers come true. Amen.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
So our first segment of the show is called Stupid
Internet News. I don't know if you've seen it or
heard it before, but it's just our Sins of the
week where we discussed everything dumb that's going on in
the world, everything that's good. So let's get into it.
Let's talk about Chris Brown and all. Start. You see
that over the weekend Chris Brown going on. I saw
that you had a post recently about Chris.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Grow They still I'm still getting onplications and people were
so angry at me.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes too, how about that?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Like they like they like, they're like, fuck her, that's
why she didn't get the breakfast club job.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now, people was on there saying that the big man.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's like, that's like the lightest of of the comments.
But when you when you talk about anything Chris Brown,
especially if you're not saying sending him to hell and
do rid of him, people wanna you know what I mean,
that's gonna happen. I saw it though, and I was like,
we still arguing about.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Chris, right, all right? So that's my whole point, right right.
So what happened over the weekend For people who don't know,
Chris Brown is slamming the NBA and claiming he was
disinvited from the least annual NBA All Star Celebrity Game
due to his past domestic violence controversies. The R and
B singer posted several screenshots of emails on his Instagram
story early Saturday morning, which appeared to be sent by

(05:33):
the NBA. Now, do we feel like it's about Rihanna still?
Because that ship old as hell.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think it's about all of the eth But you
got Rihanna, you got Caruci who had called police reports.
You have just everything that has followed him since, Like people,
he's just been like the bad kid in school.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
He can't shake it.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
So people, I think people, brands are afraid to touch him.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean, yeah, it's that's what I think too, because
I mean, here we have doctor Dre has a whole
award named after him at the Grammys, and he's a
known woman beater. I feel like Doctor Dre's stuff never
really stuck though, Like to be honest with you, like,
I think because Michelai had that whole like what was
it like a docu.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Sente or something like it was.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Whatever situation.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Yeah, I think that that the age groups matter too,
because like social media and all that stuff was a
lot bigger when even though it's even bigger now when
the Chris Browniana stuff happened. And I also think Rihanna
is like she was then it is now the girl
and as sad as it is, it's like I think
when black women are like beating bruises and what battered,
the world already cares to a certain extent and not really,

(06:43):
but if you're not like a Megda Stallion or Rihanna,
like if this was any other woman, Like people don't
even talk about Crucci.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Mm hm, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
So I think with doctor Dre he kind of got
able to like move around it because the women weren't
like big householdines. He was so basically doctor Dre, Doctor
Dre beat the right bitches, what I mean, that's what
it looks like like No for real though, because it.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
All from a time where it just gotta be a bigger.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
And there was a yeah, a lot of stuff I
think too during their times. I don't think we know
because of the music, the lyrics, like everything. A lot
of stuff during their time was excusable.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
For what they were. Like they like we we talked back.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Now he's your podcast, So it's a little bit different
now these days, Like it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
It wasn't the same, Dame we.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Fight back because who we shoot back over here that
we shoot first first.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
The right one.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
But I think it is whack for all these different
organizations to initiate these invitations to Chris Brown only to
pull him back because this is not the first time
it's happened. I can't recall off hand the last time,
but this I've definitely seen this type of shit happen
with him before, Like just like he said, just leave
him alone. He'll go wherever he's appreciated, you know what

(08:03):
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
So so Ruffles came out, and Ruffles was like, get
somebody else to do it. The wind on the door, Yeah,
like doesn't look even crazier because like y'all not even standing.
One of the brands gotta stand on something, and one
of y'all are not. Neither one of y'all are standing
on anything. So now it looks like y'all scared to
be like, oh, we don't want to sit next to him,
but y'all don't want to say that. It's like pick
a side, right, y'all.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Be having too much fucking air in that bag of chips?
Why is that much air? Let's talk about that.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
We only even tenor ruffles anyway.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
The sound cream and Cheddar is the only one. We
y'all only put ten chips in the bad and get
it together.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Nah, but the world ain't never gonna let Chris Brown
let us down, and like it's it's okay, like right,
some people are forever gonna feel like that man deserves hell.
And if that's how you feel, that's how you feel,
and if you don't, that you don't. But when it
comes to the brands, I never want us to think
that these brands get too straight out exactly, particularly us,
but especially once you got a little tainted version of
us like that. They're gonna protect their business. I don't

(09:06):
care how black the company team looks or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Business is. Business is business.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
Quick. Everybody jumped off that deep that p did train
got the hell up out.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Of the baby do we?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
We don't drink deliere.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I never drunk it.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I liked I like.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean, if if niggas had it in the section
I was drinking, wasn't it was the owned by a
black man?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
That was that?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It wasn't? But really was it? Because you got out
of your whole, Brandy?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
If it were what we got left, we got douce,
we got the DT award.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, we don't have none of them things. BT is
not black owned, nor is for real because he was
just in the whole thing with who owns do say
all simately lois vatan right like the whole like the
whole you know, conglomerate. Yeah, so you know these are partnerships.

(10:11):
So you're not good for the brand.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
A lot of times though.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
A lot of times though, because I think with the
situation with Diddy, it made people be like, oh, this
is what I'm talking about. Black people don't know how to
do business. And then they have the conversation about jay
Z and him being a capitalist, and I think people
need to understand the two of like, you got to
scale up before you can.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Completely own it.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
You wouldn't be able to put duce out the way
that it is if jay Z primarily but we don't
have a lot of private label, black owned companies that
can help him scale. So it's like, what the hell
is he supposed to do? So everything is only gonna
be black on to a certain extent. They got mad
at remember Honey pot, Yes they got mad at her
when she sold. They got mad at uh.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, we get mad.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
But it's like, yo, what we how are we supposed
to scale the business there? But a like running back,
I don't know, I feel like I.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Feel like capitalists.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's one of the things I know, right, But that
is one of the things they never wanted us to learn,
especially like during slavery and shit, like the science of business,
because anytime a black person creates something and it gets
so big, they come in with this number you can't deny, right,
and you sell the thing with honeypot is like you
start looking at the ingredients on shit before and after,

(11:20):
you know, after his bot. I'm not sticking that up.
I'm like, cuci no more. I'm sorry because we already
know y'all have been fucked with the hair products for
how many years? You got black women with cervical cans
and all the type of shit going on, Like we
have to be concerned about those things. And if we
are the ones that put your your product, you know,
at the top, we do, you do owe some type
of loyalty a little bit, you know what I'm saying,
Like I understand, like the partnership's black effect, you know,

(11:42):
in partnership with iHeart, a lot of people's talking shit.
Oh Charlamagne don't own as yes he does, he owns
fifty one percent, right, so it's still his business. But
in order to get as big as you want to get,
you do have to partner with these bigger, bigger companies.
But at some point, I don't know, at some point
we got to take a stance and we got to
be able to put other people in places, just not

(12:04):
today with some of these brands.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Y'all wion't take a staying nothing. But we collected they.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Want to it out there. Get Timeline.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Y'all listen after she put that tattoo in her face,
and I was like, Lord, just Jesus takes you moving back.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
In with him?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
She moved in with him, jail, I don't want it.
She moved back into the crew. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't know what what that looks like for her,
and that baby moved back into the crib.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
And once that.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Happened, I said, I don't know what type of what
is over there. The way he be busting down. I
never want to be that.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I never want Those are demons.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I just met one of the girls.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Get away, Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I just met one of those. Is crazy. I just
met one of those.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
It's like, I can I can see the demon like.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Get away, get away?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
All right? So now did y'all see over the weekend,
this mother she was excited that her daughter was embarking
on her business as a waxer, and she was like,
I'm teaching my child a generational wealth. And she done
had twenty four clients, and then we see this image
of this young baby over a woman's vagina, you know,

(13:16):
and the vagina has blurred out obviously. But this lady
went to jail yesterday. They arrested her for sexual child
abuse or child abuse neglect. I don't want to say
sexual child neglect. How do y'all feel about that? Do
y'all feel like that was actually child neglect?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Absolutely? I felt like it should have happened before it happened.
I was hope, not hoping, because I find it so hard.
As much as as much shit as I talk, I
do like have a tough time super condemning people, right,
so I try to like play devil's advocates. Sometimes this
is a situation where I cannot play Devil's advocate because
at what point she just didn't have the wherewithal to

(13:56):
know that that's child abuse.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
She was ignorant. I don't feel like it was like
a sexual act of any sort. I just feel like
she was an ignorant mom who thought this was her
trying to give her child some education so she could
make money for herself. That's what it's five.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Years old, working a seven hours shift. Yeah, that's child later.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The hardest, but not even the ship.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
It was hard to see the little girl with the
like this in between the spread legs, Like I just
feel like there are certain things that you're as a
as a kid, as a baby that just shouldn't you
shouldn't be exposed to right away. But I don't know
about y'alling how y'all grew up. I mean, my mom
was to have me waxing. No no, I for keep forgetting.
I can say certain words on her. My mom was
having me waxing, no coochies and nothing like that. But

(14:42):
I was the oldest in the household, and I'll be
watching this this girl she writes letters to the oldest
black like their older black daughters or whatever, and she
talks about how like years I don't know if this
was the oldest child or not, but she talks about
how you'res exposed and stuff so early, and it's because,
like your parents, OKI are trying to get you ready
because the world they did, you know, they sposed so
much sh her way, but it takes away from you
being five. She should be cocoa melon and not like

(15:06):
waxing people's melons for real. Like that shit is crazy
to me.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
It was hard to watch, I agree, and especially like
you don't even really understand your own anatomy yet at
five years old, so to be looking at some adult
women's vagina, like it's just a lot, it's too much.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
You still say in private parts and don't forget that
people are fucking That's what.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I was trying to wax in these people exactly. That's
what I told Sam earlier. Like what if? Because I
feel like, for whatever reason, we think women are exempt
from being predators when they are apex predators a lot
of them. Okay, so you have women in the community
who probably eviolated little girls before. Now they know that
this particular wax pallar has five year olds giving wax jobs, Like,

(15:49):
why would I not go get waxed by this five
year old? If that's the type of shit I'm into?
Like her mom put her in danger, Yes, her mom
put her in danger.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Wax is high because if it was a man, so
many very like are you say if it was a
man doing it like a man like letting his son
do that type of shit, like the world would be
an uproar?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah right, what they don't?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Because I feel like people got mad at no, for real,
I feel like men people got mad when Boozy was
talking about how he like his son was young and
had like what was it the sun got hit or whatever.
But there was so many people that was like, I
mean shit, at least you know he not gay, Like
they were rationalizing it, like it's a little different with
you don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Let me tell y'all something. This makes me think of
a childhood story of mine where I got I got
a spanking for this, and I shouldn't have gotten a speaking.
So I remember the cnsay that we had as a kid.
Did I tell this story? I already No, I don't know.
But you remember the see and say you pulled the
string and it be like he hanged and be pointing
at whatever animal and it's spin around y'all. Remember, no, no, Lauren,

(16:53):
no cnsay. It was like a little toy and it
have like an arrow to have animals all around it
and the string and it'll spin around and it'll stop
on the animal and when the string goes in, it'll
make the animal sound. Okay, the eighties anyway, So I
used to love that toy, right, and my mom was
I think we were getting dressed to go somewhere. She
had me already dressed and she was in the bathroom

(17:15):
getting dressed, but she left the bathroom door open and
I was just sitting on the floor playing with my
see andsay, and I looked in the bathroom. She was
she wasn't clothed yet, and I saw a string hanging
out of her and I was like, oh, ship, my
mama is a I went up. I went up, I
went up and pulled that string. Baby, whatever was in

(17:38):
there flew out on me, and I was I was
like four or five years old, and I thought my
mama was a censa. And I got popped because then
she had to change my clothes. She's like, I can't
even stay used the bathroom by myself. And then I

(17:58):
think that was the she started lock of me out
the bathroom. I didn't get so did that? Did that?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Did that haunt you in your experience when you started.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Using yes, I won't even use this, won't use I
won't use that.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'm sorry, I know what has happened.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Happened?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
My mom is a singing rain so crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
At least that's all you pizza in the bathroom and salt.
At least it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Like waxing your mama.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Right, My mom was like, come wax me, that's.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Definitely some precious ship. I'm sorry. All I thought would
have thought about was Monique and precious, Like what are
you doing with your child? Man?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Why couldn't the mom just like put the LLC in
her name or you know, like some regular like regular
people stuff like why why do we always?

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And then I put it on the internet.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
I wouldn't have been mad at if she was doing
armpits or lit. I would have been mad at.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yes, eyeb it's the heat though of the wax and
a five year old though.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, and then you put it online because she thought
she was right. She really thought she was right. She
thought it was flying. She thought it was flying.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
My baby made seven hundred and fifty dollars a day. Well,
how much your baby baby? That's how she was.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
All right, y'all listen. Have y'all been following this who
the fuck that I marry story on TikTok? This girl
her name is uh Tessa, Resa, Resa Tisa of some
shit like that, Resa Tisa. I watched all.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I didn't watch it.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
So I've been seeing people talk about the fact that
people were watching fifty parts of a TikTok story but
I didn't go watch it. Is it worth to watch?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
She talks?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Everybody seems to think.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
So it's like, yes, because it's informative and some people
may be experiencing this ship right now, you know what
I'm saying, and like at the house confused because when
you're in a relationship with a pathological liar, with a narcissist,
sometimes you think you tripping, you know, So it could
help a lot.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
So what's the premise of the like happened?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Let me give y'all a little quick, little rundown. So
she met this guy on a dating website during COVID. Okay,
she met him like that March, I believe. So COVID
we went in lockdown like February. Now they're in Atlanta.
Atlanta ain't never really locked down, but anyway, so people
were still slinging dick at the beginning of COVID and so.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Boy and when COVID happened, let me say this, I
was trying to figure out how I was gonna fuck
through a shout curtain. I really was like trying to
figure out.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
So I had a boyfriend, and so I was cool,
I was I was trying to figure out how I
was going up with a baby.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Y'all made it through Well, obviously, y'all inn't make it
through COVID. If you're trying to find we made it.
We made it.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
We made it through COVID. But we're gonna get it
to okay, We're gonna get it to your sit.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
So apparently this guy had matched with her on two
different sites. This was already the first red flag, y'all.
He matched with her on two different dating websites under
two different names. Like one of the websites it was
a variation of his other name. She found out this
dude was a twin later on all type of little
wear shit. But he just kept giving her to run

(21:23):
around about buying a house and buying her a new car,
and just like a super dupa, like if the nigga
mouth was moving, he was lying like that's just the
gist of the whole thing. And so now TikTok has
found the guy. Right, his name is Legion, and when
I like, that's his nickname. So when I hear Legion,
I'm thinking Legion and demons. Right, So this is wi

(21:46):
you sleep, This is so you sleeping next to And
she would say how he can quote the Bible and
all that because his father was supposedly a pastor.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
It's always really wasn't a pastor. If they quote the
Bible and they willing to do, what's that you don't
have sex abstin if they wanted to be they quote
the Bible right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
She said, to be willing to sustain he's a demon
that as wild. Yeah, so yeah, it's fifty. No, I
wouldn't watch all fifty. I was doing every other one right.
But if you want the full context of the story,
because you see people in the comments like questioning her

(22:37):
about ship she had already disclosed earlier on. Yeah, like
if you watched the whole series and you know what
was happening, I'm sick in the house. So yeah, I
watched it just because I just wanted This is a
particular story I just wanted to know about, because I
felt like, damn, why the hell I put my last
relationship story on TikTok, Because I mean, she's blowing up.

(22:58):
I would have gotten monetized first. She tripping right like
a'to late girl. No, my shit is a movie. That's
where mine's going at Because some of the things she
was saying some of the shit she was saying, Like
she said she was at work one day and he
just called her out the brum. And this is after
they got married and all of that. Within months, Okay,

(23:18):
she had gotten pregnant, she had a miscarriage, all the shit.
He called her at work one day and was like
a black some dude just pulled up at your house
and he's in her house. Okay, So they ended up
quarantining at her place. Some dude just pulled up like
calling her while she's at the nail shop, like just
disturbing her peace. Because when a narcissist never wants you

(23:40):
to relax, like they want to keep you on edge
and keep like questioning your reality. So this is the
type of shit he was doing to her, like just
playing mind games. The nigga was homeless all just a
real a real character. I don't know. I think it's
a mental illness. Come to find out, the he was

(24:00):
portraying to her his twin brother was actually living. He
lied to her and said he was a VP of
his company. He drove a BMW company car, all this
weird shit. He was paid for pussy on apps Like
it was a mess. Okay, it's a mess. But this
happened between twenty and twenty one, and she's like in

(24:22):
recovery mode. So her putting the shit on TikTok is
like her.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Therapy, a former healing.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, so I get it. I get it girl, Okay,
but she.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Was so hold on. So all this happened, she left
on right, she left on and now she's on TikTok
talking about it. She is she date? Like why, Like,
so she's putting it out there, like is she trying
to get money back there? No, she just just just.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
To help other women. It's like that's some real traumatizing shit.
So she's saying like I'm just now being able to
verbalize what I was going through, Like my family didn't
even know what I was going through. Like she was
saving face, like acting like everything was cool when her
mom came in town, Like you know, because we have
this thing where you supposed to keep your business to
yourself and your relationship. I'm not one of them, because

(25:11):
I'm telling everybody all the fuck shit you did, bitch,
because when I need somebody home, he accountable to not
fuck with you no more. My friend's gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
So would you be going back though, well being.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
We give each other grace. You know I'm going back.
You know I'm going back for that day.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I don't mean I'm not to give graces. Friend, That's
what I'm sitting here, Like, why does the sis had
to have known that there was after a while in
there before.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think you should keep your dumb bitch to your
your dumb bit shit to yourself sometimes, you know, until
you're really ready. Sometimes it just depends on I've never
dealt with like a pathological liar per se, so.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Where it's like so bad that you like, I noticed
nigga like.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
He is no way pat her looking at seven hundred
thousand dollar houses talking about he got a cash down
payment because he played arena football. Bitch, you never googled
the arena football salary. They don't make no money.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
So none of that ship was true.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Nothing. His entire life was a lie. But the way,
I'm a pet detective, and if any of our listeners,
if y'all dealing with somebody and you just got a
little inkling in your mind, this nigga who he said,
is sending to me, I'm gonna find him. I'm gonna
find all the shit about him in twenty.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Four hours all these platforms. Now, I'm just saying her, like,
how does this not like when like the first line
started to crumble, It's like, how you don't I know,
I'm a little too crazy for somebody to lie to
me that deep and that long. Like it just wouldn't fly.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
It wouldn't. I'm not easily finessed so that.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
But but she probably just wanted to have somebody. It
was COVID. She was probably lonely. This man was digging
her down. I'm sure they was having raw set.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, she got pregnant.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Penis confuses you, so.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
And she said he was paying.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I did.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
She said he.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Was paying all the bills initially, paying all her bills initially. Okay,
So she said she really got blinded by that because
her money was her money, and this is all this
is what we be saying we want right then, sometimes.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
You didn't take her to Apple Bean.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
No, their first date was definitely cheesecake factory. Okay, that's
they met. Look, he got her on the very first date.
And this is all I'm gonna say about it, So
I'm gonna stop talking about it anyway. So the first date,
she said she was on the way to meet him
to the chescake factory and her fucking tire blew out.

(27:30):
She called him and said, hey, I just blew out
inside of whatever, two eighty five whatever. He came, took
her to the tire shop, bought her to tire. The
pussy is in the bag, Like, you come. You don't
even know me yet, you come back.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I had one before. He was a price and he
was sucking. Honestly, right now.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's about to be the season too, It's about to
be Pisce's men are fun.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
It was such a good time over there. It was
such a good time over there. And he just they
just be knowing what to do and how to talk
to you, and like they do shit like that, like, oh,
first day I'm talking to you, my my car breaks down.
What you need a new car here because my girlfriend
not gonna be riding around with in an uber. And
then it's like, oh, I love him, And then it's

(28:21):
like everything changes. Now he's hell, he don't inswer the phone,
he goes days without talking to you. He's fucking the
shit out of you. And that just stops, and it's like, whoa,
now I'm outside your mom house.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Why are you.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Being weird to me?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
To me yet?

Speaker 3 (28:35):
And then and then once you outside the mom house,
you why you being weird to me? He still don't
pick up the phone. Then he just calls you next
week like hey, babe, what you're doing? You want to
go here? You want like like nothing happens and you're
just like, yeah, I want to go, And you can't
understand why it's like that. Like I used to call
my Jurassic Park because it's hell when you get there.

(28:57):
But it just seems so.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Literally if Dave, they be programming the Kouchie for sure,
and pices and men are so fine.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Okay, I had to block mine. They are and it
I had to block them. Hmm.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I'm not good at blocking and keeping you there right.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, I had to do it this time because I
was gonna continue to fuck that man if I didn't.
Is that twenty twenty four No more?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I can't do it, I said at the top of
twenty twenty four hours. And my friends said, we leave
in all the toxic niggas behind. I sall who I'm
taking just in case I need somebody to call. I'm
gonna just you know, people to the side but they
gotta come on over a little bit shit.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
All Right, y'all, we're gonna have a commercial break and
we'll be right back with Lauren la Rossa.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Stay tuned, all right, Laura, Laura Rosa, you are relatively young,
right I want to talk about or can we talk
about your time at TMZ.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
You even ended up there because I was like, damn,
does she go straight from college?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
So I actually I did, but I didn't. I graduated
from Delaware State University shout out to my HBCU in
twenty fourteen, and then I moved to LA. I was
there for about six months, and then I couldn't afford
to be there anymore, and so I were back. And
then I was at home in Delaware working for about
a year or two, and then I went back to

(30:24):
LA and then I started working for TMC. So it
was my first consistent entertainment job after college. But it
wasn't right after college, and I started from like the bottom,
like of And I hate when I say that because
no shade to the tour guides, but it's not the
newsroom whatsoever. I was giving tours around Hollywood. You're making
like fifteen dollars an hour, working two to four hours

(30:47):
a day. So I had like three jobs, Like you know,
this is me. Like out of college. I had a
great marketing job in Delaware, and I was doing entertainment
stuff on the side, and my family was like, yeah,
you're doing well, you know, just keep doing it, cute
little entertainment stuff. So when I decided to leave that
job and go for a forest, they were like the fuck,
Like why would.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
You leave some go do tours.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
They could until my mom could turn on the television
and actually see me on TV. And it's crazy because
she's a dreamer, Like she has a background in fashion,
sh moved to New York, the design and all that stuff.
But she's also like a very she's a money person.
So she couldn't understand me working for free, working for
not a lot of money, especially when I had the degree,
my degrees in marketing. I had a great job. I

(31:30):
was doing marketing for Barclays and you know, I was
doing a lot of things. She couldn't get it until
she could turn on the TV and see me, And
even then it was still kind of like, mm, this
is cool, but like where is it? Where we going?

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Where the money at?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
And so I was right.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
So I was giving tours for like a good two
years before they even really started considering me for a
newsroom like job, like producing news and being on the
show market sistently.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
All right. So this year Angela Ye left the Breakfast
Club and she said that it wasn't healthy working in
this male dominated space. Was it like that for you
at TMZ? Baby?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Not to take away from what Angela you went through,
but when I walked, my experience at Breakfast Club made
me realize how much I was in hell at TMD
in that news room. I remember my second day there
at Breakfast Club, I text all of my friends from
TMZ that still work there right now and was like,

(32:31):
the environment that we have been working in for all.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Of these years is not it's hostile.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
It's very dark, it's very draining, it is very you know,
it's a news desk environment. And I don't know if
you guys have ever been in the newsroom that is
like any newsroom, whether it TMS or not, is very
like because there's something always happening. You're yelling, you're talking,
you love somebody, you hate them. That's just our industry
in general. But and I don't have anything to compare

(32:57):
it to. I never had anything to compare it to
until I went to Breakfast Club and got the you know,
work with them for some time. And when I did,
I was just like whoa, Yeah, So I not only
did I experience, like, you know, it being a male
dominated space, but you got to think about it, like,
I'm very young in my career at the time when
I start there, I'm black at the time. You had

(33:19):
Ben who was on air, Raquel who was on air,
and then me Charles. You know who's there, but Charles's
EP so he's kind of removed a lot from certain
things sometimes even though he's in the day to day
conversations and tries to support as much as he can.
Charles get so much shit.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
But is that the guy with the dress.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
He's had to help hold me down in certain Yeah,
the guy with the dress, he's had to hold me
down in a certain situations. So I never give him
too much shit. But I always make the joke that,
like during Black History went like we count him half
the time because you know, it just depends on where
he fell. But it's all love. But like all I had,
so I had that support when I came in and
as a tour guy, you got to be on the show.
So I was on the show a lot even before

(33:56):
I got on the news desk, but like you know,
my text were real quick. I'm in and out there
barely listening to Mevan had to repeat a lot of
what I was saying most of the time for people
to even hear me, and then I would leave once
I actually got on the news desk, And that's a
whole different beast because now you're part of a group
of like maybe ten people who are breaking news for
the world and controlling the conversation around entertainment news for

(34:18):
the world. I'm the only at this point. Now Van
has gone, and then Raquel decided to leave as well too,
it's just me. So not only am I the only
black person on the news desk, I'm the only black
woman on the news desk. So I'm up against number
one Black entertainment and Black news, in my opinion, not

(34:38):
being valued the way that it should have been for
it to drive so much of their website and their content.
I'm up against being new in the room and in
the space and not feeling like I had that much power.
For a very long time, I felt like that, so
I didn't know how to approach, you know, when I
wanted to push back on certain things and like whatever.
For the show, it was cute like I felt, you know,
on the show, I could say and do certain things

(34:58):
because that's what they wanted for the show. But in
real life and we're day to day working with each other,
there were things that were being that were happening that
I didn't feel comfortable with speaking up about to a
certain extent, just bringing ideas to the table and just
watching stuff happen and not even news related, but just
like with the people that I'm working with and colleagues,
and you know, these little microaggressions and things that I

(35:20):
started to see and understand that I think then he
did a really good job of making things funny and
making things fun but shielding me from a lot of stuff.
And it was from day one, like even when I
didn't know him, Like I remember I walked in and
he was like, hey, I'm being what's your name? Like
he took the time to come over. It wasn't super love.

(35:42):
I love being so much like because he just always
even before he really knew me, he always looked out
for me, and I didn't understand how much of a
kind of like a privilege to have a black man
in a space like that that understood how important it
was to do that was until he wasn't there anymore,
and then I was like, oh shit, so like now
I got so now I got a fight and it's

(36:03):
just me and it's just whatever. So I went through
a lot of different stuff, Like there were times there's
so much stuff that didn't make it to air that
like sometimes I wish it didn't make it to air
because I think that it would have started a conversation
internally and externally that on a like a major scale
that was needed just about like black women in like
major media spaces, black people in spaces where they are

(36:24):
the only black content, black news, black celebrity. When the
Kanye West was Kyrie Irving, stuff was happening. Mind you,
this is my first time too being exposed to like
like I grew up in a hood and like when
I my school was Innmcity School, So I was the majority.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
In my schools.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I went to HBCU, I was the majority. My work
space is all of my life have always been the
only places that I wasn't the majority. I was the minority.
So this was my first time working in space where
you know, I'm working with people that are like, you know,
there's a bunch of different religions and like whatever. And
when the Kyrie Irving stuff happened, I remember it was
a culture shock for me because a lot of what

(37:04):
was happening. And like even with Nick Cannon when he
said those kindments that he said, I remember a lot
of the things. I'm like, I grew up here in
some of that in my household, and that's what I
was taught. I didn't know that it hurt people. I
didn't know that, you know, to a certain extent, certain
things weren't okay, Like I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
And it was the same thing with our stuff, Like
I had to teach certain.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
People why you don't ask me about how long my
hair took the break down every single time I get
my braids done, Like I'm not a science project bro.
Like there was so much that we had to like
teach each other, and I was just like, oh shit,
like this is real. But there was no protection. It
was just like me and I didn't realize until I
left again how much that fucked with me. Like on

(37:45):
a day to day, so I encountered that. But and
again I don't want to take away from Angelie's experience,
but when I walked into the breakfast club that time
that I was there, I was like, I wish that
every day of my work life. When I was at
TMZ felt like this, I could have been so much
better of an employee. I mean, I did my thing,
but it would have been happier, different, Like I felt

(38:06):
happier I would I would have felt like even in
times because you know, when you talking topics and culture
like all this stuff, some of this stuff get very easy,
like we're not gonna all agree whether we all look
alike or not. But although I felt safe and comfortable
to disagree, it took me time to get to that
point at TMD, like it was a lot of times
where like I didn't really understand myself as an asset

(38:28):
in the room and I didn't know like they using
the fuck out of me. I mean like when being
got fired. I had never hosted any of the shows
by myself. Mind you, TMZ is in La La is
number one market for television. TMZ is you know they're
huge at what they do, so to be on those
platforms on television is a major thing. The day that
being got fired. The next day they say, hey, do

(38:51):
you want to host TMZ Live? And I was like, yeah, okay,
And it didn't dawn on me until I'm hosting in
the seat. Y'all niggas only got me here because y'all
want pay six looking like racist people. It's because of
the conversation that was surrounding in me. If I had known, Like,
It's not like I was oblivious or green, but I

(39:13):
think I was just so in the this is just work,
this is just what I do, this is just how
they use me. I'm just happy to be here. That
I just like went with it until I hosted and
my Twitter went crazy. People were like, who the hell
is this black girl? Why would she coming host? After
what they did to THEND then had to get on
Twitter and be like, this is my sister. Leave alone.
But and now I was like, oh shit, like I'm

(39:34):
the pond right now. Like so, once I realized that,
I'm like, okay, bad, y'all want to play, let's play.
Y'all need me, I need y'all. I'm an asset. I
don't agree with this. I don't agree with that I'm
gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and y'all need me,
so we'll see where it lies. And now there were
so many times I would call my manager, ya, I'm
probablynn got fired to day, like what's next for us?

(39:55):
Because I d sure told them off today on air that.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Exchange you and Harvey had after the Kenosha shooting. The
little boy Kyle Rittenhouse had gotten where he got off.
He didn't get convicted. They exchanged you and him had
that day. Is that kind of what led up to
you resigning?

Speaker 3 (40:15):
No, And that was early in the game, Like that
was like right after all of the protest stuff that happened,
and kind of, you know, coming off all the George
Floyd stuff, there have been way more heated. Like imagine
being the only person that is willing to talk back
when George Floyd and a out Ivrey got killed and
having to teach them about we put up a Juneteenth

(40:36):
post and we put by I keep saying, well, I'm
so used to being there. I remember they had put
up a they were prepping a Juneteenth Post to go
live on the website because everybody was so black and
all that during that time, right and they wanted to
use the American flag as a part of the art
for the Juneteenth Post and I had to get on
the phone and say, Yo, what's trunk for the race war?

(40:57):
Like the whole point of Juneteenth is the fact that
we don't feel welcome here, Like why would you use
the American flag, which is a part of the constitution
that we feel like it has still enslaved us and
we're celebrating the date that we found out that we
ain't got shit to do with that, Like y'all not
getting it, And they were like, oh, you're being too emotional.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Like I had to.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
I had to Charles, and I called. When I called Charles,
Charles didn't fully understand it, but he heard me out,
and once I explained it, he was like, you're right,
we're gonna change it. Send me the correct flag and
correct colors, and we'll make sure that you know what
I mean. Having to do stuff like that on and
off air. By the time of the Dyling Root stuff
had become so normal to me, and I think God
for that experience. It was tough in the beginning, Like

(41:36):
I remember, I was like crying every day, Like oh,
I was like it just the pressure of it, like
they're literally making you speak for every black person in
the world, and it's like you never feel like you
can get it right. You know how I really shit
can get if you say something wrong, but not even
just saying or doing things wrong, but like you're not
really come from a place where like my friends is
really getting beat up by police. Before this shit was

(41:57):
cute to talk about on Instagram, my brother my mom
was going to you know, showing up the court cases
where police wouldn't show up because my brother resisted the rest.
But y'all fucked him up, so of course he resisted
the rest. You know what I mean, Like this is
real for me. It's not just a segment on a
news show for me. So I took things a lot
more persons than they did, and it would get on
my nerves and they wouldn't understand it. So we had

(42:18):
been through so much shit, Like the the pivotal points
for me when I was like, yo, how much more
mentally are you gonna put yourself through anywhere? Not even
just here, was when we had the conversations about Kanye
and the Kyrie irving, and we had had I tried
to handle it in a way where like I understood

(42:39):
where they were coming from. Right, Like, there were people
that I was working with at TMZ whose grandparents were
a part of like a lot of like the like
the into Semitic comments and like the genocide, like this,
the different things they had been through. It's real close
for them, like literally their grandparents. Like I have a
friend who was telling me about her grandmother and losing

(42:59):
her and all that stuff and why Kanye hurt he
or whatever, And I took that and I listened to it.
But I also felt like on the other side of things,
there was some things that were happening, and my point
to them was, as a platform, we have a responsibility
to be fair and not lean off of emotion, and
the people in power here right now are not being
It's all very personally emotionally driven, and we're humans, so

(43:21):
I understand why it's happening, but like you know, as
a person that's here, I just want to put that
in the forefront before we have any of these conversations.
That shit went off the window when the conversation started,
right and I was just like, bro, I got to
get to a place in my career where I can
say I'm not okay with something and walk away from it.
And as long as I sit up under this brain
and just be the black girl TMZ, I'm never gonna

(43:43):
be able to do that. Like I gotta build audience.
I got It's gonna be tough. You want have to
build it anyway, but I gotta do it because like
I'm sitting here right now, like, are y'all fucking serious?
Like y'all want to talk about the fact that Kyrie
didn't apologize the way you wanted him to or use
the words you want him to? You know, times all
the wrong words terminology approach when it comes to me,

(44:06):
and I have to just think of it as a
cultural difference and go on and love y'all anyway. I'm
not trying to hear that shit like at all. Like
those are conversations that I wish made it to air
that got cut. Of course, in those instances though, I
was just like, Okay, I can only do this, but
for so long it's a great learning experience. But I
got to get to a point where I built a
platform and the name enough where know that if we

(44:28):
don't have these conversations, we don't really have it on.
And I'm gonna be able to call it out afterward,
if not be in fear of what might happen to
me if I do it.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
M child, listen, Oh I couldn't. I couldn't do it.
I worked a corporate job and one of my biggest
things was being able to do something where I can
be myself. That's the podcast world, right, But I've definitely
been the only black girl. That's when my ask got
laid off because I'm the youngest. No kids in black

(44:54):
and get your ass up out of here. So I
definitely understand I couldn't do it because I was. I
was plotting on beating people up in the garage. You
have to work plenty days.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I was myself, so it just was like, no.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I've never not been myself. That's the problem when you
can't no code switching. So you be yourself. You show
up and you make it into places you can make
it where you want to be at being yourself for sure.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I didn't know that though at first I was raised
that way, but I didn't know that like I was
raised that like, nah, you're getting a wroong. You like
you don't ever sit in the room, don't say nothing.
But the more that I started to work in these
mainstream media spaces. It's just like you don't say that.
And then I come from fashion, fashion could tour fashion.
You don't say shit about nothing. So I was trained
to like get on and get along, like you know

(45:41):
what I mean, like eventually by the world, like the
world will bring, specially black women. The world won't teach
trying to remind you every day of while you gotta
like shut up.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Like and assimilate.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, that's I found that interview you just did recently
with Vivoca Fox interesting speaking about like going along to
get along, cause you touched on the Taraji p Henson
thing with Vivica Fox. You know, everybody saw Vivica fox
reaction to what Taraji p Henson was explaining about the
industry and not being paid with your worth blah blah blah,

(46:12):
and Vivica Fox said she didn't experience or didn't doesn't
have that same experience. And then in the interview with you,
she was talking about like how this is a business
of relationships. I agree, relationships is worth more than money.
So once you start burning bridges, you know, TMZ could
be a bridge that you didn't give a fuck about. Burning. Okay,
but depending on what you're trying to do in the industry,

(46:33):
you have to maintain relationships, right, So do you think
that she I don't. You was in her house doing
an interview, so I don't know what type of relationship
do you think?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Do you think she is one of the like there's
no way you didn't understand as Vivica Fox, are you, yes?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I don't think that. I don't think that. I think
that because me and her we had a conversation prior
to that. Because and I just want to say, when
it comes to TMZ, I ain't done nothing that Like,
I have not done or said anything that I have
not done or said to them, and while I was
with them, So I don't believe that a bridge is burned.
They do get a little emotionally upset when you leave

(47:17):
because they want you to stay there. But you know
that'll be fine. But when it comes to Vivica Fox,
like me and her had a really great like even
though that was my first time meeting her that like, personally,
I felt like I was in the home of a
big sister. We had a really good big sens the
little sister conversation about, you know, her life, her career,

(47:38):
dealing with the controversy of like just everything. I was
telling her how new it was for me to be
on a platform like the Breakfast Club and like the
taxis strict to you the reviews. You know, it's different
when you're behind a brain like a TMZ and she
kind of you know, we talked about that, and then
I asked her, you know, do you want to talk
about the Taraji stuff? And because I didn't want to
make her uncomfortable because of the respect that I for

(48:00):
her and the conversation that we had around it prior
to I think that I got a chance to understand
her a little bit differently than the people that just
watch these clips. And the way I felt walking away
from it is not that she's just happy to be somewhere,
happy to be working. But number one, she come from
a different time. Like when I looked at the career
that she had during the time that Vivica Fox was

(48:20):
the girl, there was just her and maybe like Halle Berry,
like there weren't like there were nears. I don't think
I can't so there, but isn't I believe Bifica Fox
a little bit older than me alone, though correct the aid.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
I think, yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Okay. So for me, when I saw that, I remember
asking her, like, do you feel like your experience was
something that was a little bit different because the time
that you came along is kind of like you were
to go to for so much stuff, so you had
a little bit more different leverage. And then also too,
on top of that, I think that we have a
little bit, a lot of bit more of a privilege
to be able to like she might have thought she

(49:01):
was leveraging her situation and maybe it worked out for
her for what she needed. But I think now we
get a chance to really see what leverage it looks
like for real, for real, and we're trying to run
it up differently. And Taraji is a part of a
different world of like now you're gonna give me what
you're supposed to give me. And I think it's the
same thing when you talk to your grandmother about your
career decisions versus your mom or versus your sister. And

(49:23):
because for me, I would never describe and I don't
I'm not doing this at age Vivaica, but the older
black women in my family, I would never describe those
women as like they sit down, they shut up, and
they do whatever it needs to be done because they're
strong women, they've been through things. They put things on
her back that done the work. But their way of
we talked back was different. And that's how I look

(49:45):
at her. So like when she said, I didn't go
and like, you know, maybe do it the way that
Taraji did by talking about things or whatever. I caught
my team, a team heard the certain things we whatever. Right.
I think that it's just it's a very sincetive topic, right,
because you have people who are emotionally tied to what
Taragi is doing. We watch her forever, we love her forever,
and a lot of us go through the same stuff.

(50:06):
But I think that it's one of those conversations where
you have to realize that, like everybody has a different
place in the fight, Vivica Fox doesn't have to be
the voice of Martin Luther King of it, right. She
could be the person that's sitting at home that you
call for the bill money when Martin Luther King, you know,
it's writing that letter from Birmingham jail. And I'm not
trying to say that she's Martin Luther King or anything
like that for the people listening. But all I'm saying

(50:26):
is that when I talked to her, from what I
took from it is just because she didn't do it
the same way or she doesn't say that's my experience,
it doesn't mean that she didn't have inexperience of some
sort that she had to out figure out and that
change things for the Taragi to come. I don't think
that she did a good job of saying that, and
I want to be very honest and saying that. Her
biggest thing with me in that conversation about that topic

(50:50):
was she wanted to protect Taraji. She didn't want to
talk too much about it because she felt like seeing
Taraji break down the way she did, and then everything
that came after that team clip and how the world
pinned them to against each other, she felt like she
was like it piled onto whatever I just obviously going through,
And she said to me, She's been through enough, I
don't want to pile on. Our experiences are different. So

(51:12):
it was kind of disheartening for people to not get
that through the interview. But I also feel like, to
people's defense, I don't think she really gave it all
of the color. I just gave y'all, and I wish
she would have, but that was her choice not to.
But I don't look at her that way, like I
don't nothing about baby vis Biblica a fox, and nothing
about her. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Have y'all ever remember her?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
She is queen. We talked back, y'all need to have
her on here. She's like you not getting around her
like I promise you, like she's very strongly not just
happy to be anywhere you're happy to have her like that,
and everything about her exudes that, you know, the way
we were brought up, where it's like baby I am woman,
Like who got that? You know what I mean? Yeah,

(51:56):
so I think so No, to answer your question, I
don't think that about her. I think that people are
picking it up that way. I also think people like
to just fuck with her as well too, because she
gives y'all, y'all can't sit with me, so people love
to remind her like now we're sitting next to you.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Right, And then she was It looked like she was
going through airport security or something when they were asking
these questions. It wasn't like she had a lot of
time to explain herself. I felt like it wasn't you
know she was she didn't.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I mean, those clips are quick, like you get a
TMZ clip, you getting a good two minutes to two
minutes to fifty depending on what you're saying. She signed
autographs coming out of the building. They clipped quick clips.
But I don't think that the world really gets to
feel what she's trying to say because she's not going
to depth about it, which for me is like that's
just gonna make it worse. I don't know. I hope
that my interview ain't make it even worse.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Though, No, I don't think it didn't. It didn't the
original TMZ at the airport, I really didn't. I didn't
really feel any type of way about what she said then,
But once I saw the interview with you, it gave
a little bit and more definition. But like you said,
not enough like your explanation of the behind the scenes conversation,

(53:02):
Like I definitely don't. I'm not calling her the op
at all. I don't see that Vivoca Fox that type
of woman. I definitely think she is for the people.
But she was definitely trying to keep it cute.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
She was. I think her keeping cute her keeping cute
is like I think it could be a little detrimental
in my personal opinion, it could be a little detrimental
to her because for her to be such a legend
and an icon and to have when I say, like
I was only there for but so much time, but
I just felt like wow, like you know, she's a
big sister in TV you need for real, because she

(53:34):
would have been in ith On like a real high
level best of the best, count her coin, get her money,
and she's living peacefully right now. I think it does
a disservice to you know, like just our legacy as
Brown girls on our grind, And that's what I want
those conversations to be. That's why I'm so excited to
be able to sit down with her, because I don't
think if there's like a place right now that gives

(53:54):
us like that conversation of like naw, that's your big
sister for real, Like if gonna be honest, it might
hurt you a little bit. And when I was at
Breakfast Club, for some reason, I felt like I kept
getting phone into those type of conversations and I was
learning so much about myself in them, Like when we
did the Ebony k when we did that Carrie Champion,
when we did you know, like so many other conversations,
I was like, I like this space.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
I feel like a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Need to hear this like on a like for real,
for real. People need these like choke hold conversations for real.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So I have a question, right, Vivica was at one
point at the height of her career, honestly, she was
dating fifty cents and people said that like that affected
her brand in a negative way. And then we know
that Karsha was connected to a Diddy and she's go
kind of been quiet. Do you feel like the man
that you're connected to can diminish your brand if she
goes south? One hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
One hundred percent. Because as successful as Vivica Fox was
and as iconic and legendary as she is now, y'all,
remember when Cuban Lank fifty cents girlfriend came out and
tried to play play with her, little bit in the
world had to remind the world like, no, this is
vivaka foxtp Plane. She had a career for real, She's
not just somebody's girlfriend. That is a perfect example of yes,

(55:08):
that can happen because how would you ever even allow
vivaka Fox to be put in that conversation of oh,
you was just his past girlfriend. I'm here now. But
when you're a woman and you're attractive and you're doing
all these things, I don't know what it is, but
like when you attached to a man, it overshadows so much,
and it can lift you up and put you in
certain conversations and you know, Karsha Diddy at the met

(55:31):
Gala and all that fine stuff, but at the same
time disattaching the wrong way. Every time she speaks about fifty,
they're like, oh my god, here she goes again. She's miserable,
she wants him back, and it's like, no, she's.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Doing the same thing fifty dudes.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
She knows that putting her show in the conversation with
his show, it's marketing. But she gets the bitter ex
girlfriend fifty gets. Marketing genis like one hundred percent, and
it makes it tough when you're trying to date because
people be like, I get told right now so much,
oh you need to have a celebrity relationship, and I'm like,
I mean, I like real niggas, that's number one, and

(56:06):
they'd be weird the celebrity people be weird, they'll be
like the real realm. But then also too, it's like,
even if I did like a celebrity enough to do it,
or you know, just whatever, I'm always nervous about how
that will affect me. I don't want to just be
someone's girlfriend. I hate that. And she talked about that too.
She didn't go into detail on the interview, but Vivoka
Fox was talking about how she had to literally take

(56:27):
a step away from Hollywood at the height of her
career and rebrand herself again and remind people I'm a
serious actress. She had to go to theater. She had
to go back to her roots of us, the black
people who had been supporting her forever, and go back
to theater and sell out shows and get agents and
different people to come to those shows, because all people
wanted to talk to her about what's her love life,

(56:47):
who she was fucking, who she was dealing with, and
because she had played the cute, sexy, powerful girlfriend and
you know, all that for so long that that's where
she lived and she didn't like it, and she knew
she could do way more, but she had to fight
all over again to remain name men don't go through No,
Michael B. Jordan ain't had to go back to theater.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Since why do y'all think that is?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Though?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Why do y'all think that happened to Vivica Fox in
that way? Because I mean we're talking about fifty cent.
We ain't talking about like some ranky, dank ass dude.
So why do y'all think that even happened to her?
Like why did her career like seemingly dwindled some after
her relationship with the with fifty Cent? I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
It was that moment when she was on stage when
it was an award show and fifty cent was performing
and Vivica was up there with them little short song
as a pretty much a background dancer for fifty cent.
I think that was when all the ship changed for her. Honestly.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Yeah, It's ben a lot of stuff about that relationship
that I didn't really I guess because I was like
yo too, But like it was something with like she
like when they when she wanted like to talk to him,
like I guess, so she was shooting her shots, she
like showing about his house or something like that too.
Like there was like a couple of different things.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
So she has ten years older than him. Also, Yeah,
so I think.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Maybe it was maybe the approach. But in my opinion,
I feel like the world loves to put black women
in this space of like reminding us you, like, don't
forget Okay, it's so cute.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
You're doing good, but not too much.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Not too much, Okay, remember you need us, We don't
need you. And with black men, even though black men
go through what they go through, I have this argument
all the time with black men about black men have
a certain It's like, even though the world precedes them
a certain way, and you know, they can be looked
at as aggressive, they them or whatever whatever, if you

(58:38):
are black men and with power and money and influence
and you look good, lend to you even Yeah, even
though they trying to like control you with puppet springs,
puppet strings, they lend to you a little bit different
than they do a black woman. As a black woman,
if you look good and you're powerful, they you can't
do one of the two. You can't actually be talented
men be fire and smart, look good, it's smart, and

(59:01):
be dating somebody popping. It's like, oh no, that's just
his girlfriend, right, Like that's just all it is.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I've seen some white people on ex call Megan Marco lazy.
I'm like, what, like what constituted her being lazy because
she's am Loto mixed black woman, Like, what does she
do to be lazy? To y'all? She's the fucking she's
royalty at this point.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
She's from where she's from.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
That's why it's like she doesn't deserve. She just lays
on her back and be with that man and that's
her career.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
And that's so what.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Like what she supposed to be because the Royal Housewives
of New York, no white woman.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Is living green.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
And all a fraud. Okay, let's be clear anyway, So
in a world where like my truth is I talk
about this all the time, my truth. This is my truth,
like everybody's truth is the truth? Like, how important is
it to you as a journalist, because even with just
a podcast, like we are essentially journalists, how important is
it to you to make sure that you're being that

(01:00:08):
you're reporting the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
It's always it's like it's that or nothing for me
even now, So like with Brown Girl Grinding, we do
a lot of like content that like causes engagement in conversations,
and our biggest exclusives like that we're going to like
really hone in and focus in on this year are
the interviews because I just feel like it gives a
different voice to news than just me posting a tweet

(01:00:34):
or whatever. But if I'm following a story the way
that I've been brought up in this through my boot
camp at TMZ, oh it's factual, I'm not even touching it.
Like there are certain things that people will reach out
to me and be like, oh, why I talk about this,
Why you're not covering unless I'm about to do something
opinion based, And I think some stuff doesn't deserve an opinion.
Some stuff deserves facts, factual review. I'm not touching it

(01:00:54):
because as a journalist, like who's really doing this? That's
all I have is the fact that you'll be able
to back check what I said and it's true. But
also just like if you look at a TMZ in
the business model there they have built their brand and
you can't get around them because it's truthful, it's vetted,
and they're the first to tell you about it. So

(01:01:14):
now you go to them knowing you trust them. All
I have as a journalist like right now, I'm literally
working for myself, Like I am every single day getting
up and doing something for myself that is causing income, conversation,
brand building, whatever. One hundred percent. I don't work for
anyone but myself. Even when I work with other brands.
It's a new space for me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
But at the end of the day, I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Want to be a person that people look at and
they trust and they're like, oh, she's talking about it, it
must gets something to pay attention to. If she's putting
facts out for the first time, we can trust what
she's saying. The minute that you do that and it's
not truthful, or you plan around with your platform from
the world that I'm trying to build in, people can't,
like we don't even know where to go now, Like
we don't know if it's vetted, we don't know if
it's real, and there's so much bullshit it fake stuff

(01:01:59):
on it too. And because I'm solely I'm just social
media based, Like I don't have a website, I don't
have a line on TV show yet, So all I
have is to be like that one person in the
world of all this noise that can bring you some
truth and some insight and some in depth conversations. That's
why I'm leaning with it. So it's one hundred percent
like it's truthful, factual, fact checking or nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
So all your feelings are out when you when you
reporting on the news, it's nothing personal. Ever, No, that's not.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Always true, because I'm human, So you would you want
it to be that way when you're reporting certain things.
But because you're human, you're you're human. Bias is always
going to come in to a certain extent. I do
try and be as neutral as I can, and I'm
learning to be better at that because I think a
lot of times when I do leave with emotion, depending
on what it is, it's because I feel like a

(01:02:48):
lot of times I'm speaking for people that like might
not ever get to seek that I'm in, Like you
might not get to talk to Ebony k or you
might not get to talk to a bit of a fox,
or you might not you know, get to if there's
like I I forget which school shooting it was. I'm
so sad that there are so many of them, but
probably like two months ago there was a school shooting
that happened and I was going back and for foot

(01:03:10):
LA enforcement sources, just you know, reporting things as they
were coming out. And I remember one of the public
information officers called me and was like, what platform are
you with and I was like my own brown girl
grinding and he was like, you should be working somewhere,
like you're so like on it. Like every single time
they released something, when I saw it somewhere else, if
I didn't report it first, I called and say, hey,
I just want to confirm this before I go with it,

(01:03:31):
you know, and he was like, we really appreciate that
because these families are impacted by the news and the
media and people don't understand that. And that was like
such a like Okay, I got this, you know, like
I could do this for me on my own because
I removed myself from it and I was factual. But
at the same time, I don't know what it's like
to lose a kid to a school shooting, but and
being sensitive to that, I do want to put a

(01:03:53):
little emotion in it when I'm reported on it, But
you just got to know when the right time is.
So like the Chris Brown reacting or me reacting to
Chris Brown situation that you brought up earlier, that's all
me that's all opinion. That's my emotion, that's how I feel.
But if I'm talking about something that is like an actual,
you know, something that like the facts are there, I
can't get around it, and I'll make it. I might
still get my opinion, but you'll know when the switch happens.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Like the only don't she said, the only tailor we
recognizes tailor port. Bitch, I said, what.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
What' telling?

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Right, that's the only tailor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Act Like we've been on this tailor and tailor report
and that's it. Like I was trying to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Tail report is straight. They're trash.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
But you know it though you have little Sippy said,
everybody has drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Church. I won't mess with that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
That's what y'all be getting at church during commune. That
damn teleport.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I wish to be a buzz.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
But even that, though there was a lot of factual
stuff in the full video, like I took actual facts
and reports or whatever, but then you got you got,
you know, I got a little.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, what do you do you consider yourself a millennial?
Are you a millennial?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
I don't even I don't know. I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
So when people will be sitting all that stuff. I
don't know how the age brackens.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Were you born before ninety seven?

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Yes, I was born in ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah, oh okay, so yeah, yeah, she's definitely who. So
what do you believe are some of the most pressing
issues facing millennials today and how do you approach covering
these issues in your reporting?

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I think race, gender wars politics, but not just like
making people go out and vote. I think making people
actually understand what the fuck is going on, like on
a yeah, like what's going on and doing it in
a bite sized way as a person that like I
don't have a political background, but like I have to
go and vote, I have to know certain things just

(01:06:13):
to be a person civil person in the world. So
I think that that's like an issue too, that there's
like a big fall off between all these smart people
who know everything and can like get on CNN and
be analysts and like the everyday person who really needs
to go and vote for their prosecutor locally, like those things.
I think the world of like business and business like

(01:06:35):
creation and branding is also like an issue with us.
I don't really have too many friends who work regular jobs.
All my friends are creatives or like own their own businesses.
Even my friends who do work regular jobs, their regular
jobs are requiring them to know what's going on in
the pulse of creativity, especially if they're black. If you're
black and you working for these big corporations, baby, they
want you to sing rap ac dance, do ex social

(01:06:57):
media numbers all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah, social media.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
That so because you come in and you are the
culture in these rooms. So I think that that's also
a big thing as well too, is like us just
understanding navigating like financially like as a business owner where
that can put you being able to like partner with
these organizations. I guess that's called capitalism, like us understanding
how we can use that to better ourselves, because I
think our generation of people are so like, fuck the man,

(01:07:22):
we don't need that job, you know what I mean.
I build my own table, and yeah, I want all
of us to be building our own tables. But the
table gotta get bigger and it got to scale and
order for us to really do this shit for real,
for real, and we need a lot of us in
rooms that are like at the head of the LB
and LB MHS, you know. So I think that that's
also something big and podcast mics w meen. I think

(01:07:46):
that that's a big issue.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Fation like gas, like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Toxic masculinity.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
This is my last question. This is in reference to
like social media, and because I read an article that
said most millennials then you know, they get forty five
percent of their news from social media. So we have
platforms like X for example, which you know there's a
lot of independent journalists on X rather than should be
true or not, it's that for you to have discernment

(01:08:35):
and decipher. So how do you see the role of
social media shaping modern journalism practices.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I've talked about this at a panel ardy during Grammy Weekend.
I think that it's gonna make it where, you know
how like the I always think with myself as like
a rap artist, we too have no mix. But just
like in terms of career, the way that you have
to position yourself when you are talented, the way that
social media is already changing news media and how people

(01:09:02):
receive it is the same way when people started stepping
away from labels and saying I want to be independent,
I just want to distribution deal. It's literally going to
be that eventually. But the issue is that you have
all these people who are on social and they can
sweep whatever they want, do whatever they want, and present
things as facts and it not be facts right, or
it be an augmented fact like through AI or through

(01:09:24):
personal opinion, emotion whatever. And a lot of times these
people are not bettert journalists that they don't have the
background people understand how to check a source, how to
like you know, there's a lot that goes into this
nuance of reporting news and being a news personality and
just a person that drives conversation around culture in general.
So I think what we're going to see is is
that eventually the CNNs and all that stuff, it's happening already,

(01:09:47):
they're going to be trying to keep up with the
people that become the faces and the names on the
tiktoks and the twitters and the Instagrams and the you know,
like in that space. Don Lemon, who got fired from
CEE and the announced it he's doing the show, but he's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Doing it on X Tucker Cross.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Tucker Cross and so many people have just like they
xed out the middleman and they get the distribution through
platforms and sponsors and advertising to make it bigger and
to scale larger. So I think that is going to
become the new normal, and the people that are early
on it are going to become the breakout voices. That
was a big part of me leaving my job, just
seeing that that was a thing and knowing that I
could do it. It's not easy. It is very tough

(01:10:26):
because it takes a lot of consistency. It takes a
lot of finance as well, so you've got to have
a good partner, the backing. Still, I'm looking for all that,
and y'all out there and y'll like, y'all fuck with her.
I want to, you know, throw some dollars in my
way to help this scale up. I'm gonna grinding scale up.
But I think that eventually, like it's going to be
a rise of like creators and content creators who are
telling news and like putting stuff into the world. And

(01:10:49):
it won'ted to be traditional, like they won't just sit
and report it. It's going to be so many different ways,
and those platforms will be to go to over like
a TMZ or a CNN or whatever, and the best
platforms will see that it's like to change and pivot.
Like I even noticed at TMZ since I left, things
that they're doing differently, Like even though what they're going,
like I knew leaving what I needed to do in

(01:11:12):
order to be still keeping myself right next to them,
Like I'm not as big of a platform, but they
don't have my voice. They don't have There's a lot
that I knew I left with, so I use what
I knew that they weren't doing to structure what I
wanted to do so I could still kind of, you know,
be right there at it. But I'm like, oh, they
waking up a little bit, Like they hit in social
media as soon as the stories are publishing and like
all that stuff. They weren't social media first, they were

(01:11:33):
website first. But the website is still there. So a
lot of platforms are going to come around. But that's
what it's going to be. Like your lead news person
is going to be such and such an X and
you know, like what academics is doing, but like a
more vetted version of it that you can really trust
and not just him screaming at his phone.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
At like tide out in his fucking basement somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
I got one more question for you, Lauren, What advice
would you give I don't want a young person trying
to get into journalism and they're just starting out and
they're afraid and they don't know what to do. What
advice would you give them?

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I always tell people to start where you are, So
don't wait until you got the job, you moved out
of the state to the state that you want to
move to or whatever. Start where you are. Interview your friends,
Interview to people that are doing something around you. Get
good at, like knowing how to produce. If you're starting
where you are and you're putting out content, you're developing
ideas and angles and all that, you're learning how to produce,

(01:12:28):
and that there's no way you can live and breathe
in this space and not be a producer. Also, that's
number one. Number two is to like really just understand
what is the story that you want to tell That
won't come instantly. I'm just now realizing with this last
year where I think my voice is strongest and lending
myself to that and building a brand around it, it

(01:12:49):
will take time. So don't be afraid to try things
and be afraid to get on different platforms if it's
not the job you want. Like people will be like
should I start in local news? It's so boring, it's
not the shade room. Hell yeah, it's a job. It's
gonna put you on camera. It's gonna teach you things.
There's so many different tools that you need, like you
need to there's so many different things you just need
to know how to do on and off camera that

(01:13:11):
you don't learn it until you do as much experience. Yes,
like when I'm a personality and I'm navigating new spaces,
like breakfast club was new new for me, like I
had never been on a platform for that long of
a time where like I'm a full blown personality, and
the first day I was there, I remember thinking like, okay,
today was cool. But as a producer, what were the

(01:13:34):
things that I didn't do well that would have made
the producer's job easier when it comes to making the
show good? Like what did I realized? I realized, like, Yo,
they're really good as hell what they do in real life.
I don't think people give it to Charlomagne Amy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yes, they're good it well.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Bro like they just be like like off the top,
like so like you know, I was like, okay, comebacks,
I thought my comebacks were cool for the TMZ room.
But that's that's a bunch of people who are like
you know, it's different when you with the culture so
like you know, just but having that that producer had
and having had it for so long at TMZ and

(01:14:09):
understanding what makes people go. I started looking at myself like, Okay,
what can I really lean into here to make this shit?
I gotta run it up while on here because I
might not be here forever. I gotta run right. So
it's important that to get all that, So don't turn
out anything. Learn as much as you can. Start where
you are. Put the stuff out. If you're telling me
that you are a TV personality and I can't find
you on social doing anything TV personality wise in twenty

(01:14:32):
twenty four, you're not a TV personality If you're a
producer and you can't send me a real or there's
nothing out there that I can see, you're not a producer.
But the minute that you start putting stuff out there,
you are, regardless of people believe it or not. So
just get started.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Start start where you are. Well, thank you Lauren for
joining us. Man. This was such an excellent interview. You're
such a great gift we definitely want to have you back.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
Yes, Now, I don't call me whenever y'all need me.
I'm talking back all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Just call me plug your period.

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so on YouTube, we are documented behind the scenes. We're
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or yeah, it was this month. We kicked off this
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But Warna Rosa everywhere and then the brand is Brown
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Like we have conversations over there, we argue, we get
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Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Yeah, sounds like it. Follow Thank you all.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
For landing the platform to me. I appreciate you for
having me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Thos were coming off.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Millennials are creating contemporary Black history in real time, which
involves actively engaging in actions, movements, initiatives that contribute to
the advancement, recognition, and celebration of black culture. So building
connections within the Black community and beyond is crucial for
amplifying voices, sharing experiences, and fostering solidarity. Our partners at

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Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Our guest today, Lauren Lerossa, she definitely touched on that
how black millennials are becoming entrepreneurs and launching businesses and
creating innovation solutions. She definitely was talking about how our parents,
you know, our parents would work for twenty years at
one job and stay with that job. And now millennials
we are challenging traditional business models. And she also talked

(01:17:08):
about collaborations with bigger brands and how to scale your business.
So that was definitely dope. Some Black millennials that I
can think of that are definitely pushing the culture forward
right now. Pinky Coal, she has Slod Vegan. That's huge. Yeah,
a vegan plant blazed Burger restaurant, you know. And she's
it's started in Atlanta and now it's a change. She's
moving all over the country and she was like Time

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nominated for Times Top one hundred people. Then you have
Everett Taylor. He's the CEO of Kickstarter, which is a
crowdfunding app that has collected millions and millions of dollars
for entrepreneurs who are trying to get their creative ideas
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Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Okay. Chela mean a god with the Black Effect Podcast
Network our network.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Period, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
He has brought together some of the biggest voices in
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are able to share their stories and perspectives on multiple
podcasts across the network. Charlamagne is the founder and creator
of this network, The Black Effect Podcast Network, which stands

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as the first podcast network tailored specifically for Black listeners. Okay,
we ain't trying to exclude nobody, but yes for us,
by us bring it together, diverse and trusted voices within
the culture, and fostering a platform for representation and connection
where Black millennials can share their stories.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Like I said, all right, so before we go, let's
discuss how me and you and we talk back, how
we can continue to support black creators and amplify our voices.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Were gonna keep talking, We're gonna keep talking back.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
I think we got to keep bringing on good guests
from all different walks of life. You know, different entrepreneurs,
women who are like we just did the segment with
women who are happy married, different people in STEM. You know,
I don't know about STEM, so you know things like that.
I think that's an adult way that we can definitely

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amplify our voices and push the culture for it.

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