Satisfyer Pro II feat. Chantelle Chevon

AJ Holiday and TamBam sit down with special guest Chantelle Chevon for a powerful conversation on  self-discovery. They explore the intersections of spirituality and sexuality, the impact of childhood experiences on adult relationships, and the role of community in healing. The discussion highlights the importance of intuition, self-love, and accountability in love and intimacy, while unpacking cultural beliefs around growth, connection, and spiritual alignment. Let’s discuss. Tap in and join the conversation.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
to talks.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
What's up y'all with your girl a j holiday?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
What's up tam Bam? Y'all is tam Bam. I love
y'all so much. Happy August. How you doing aj ah? Dude?
I need to do the rundown again?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Okay, everybody. I'm struggling today, y'all.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm getting it together hopefully house by by lunchtime, I'll.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Be all right. I didn't do much this weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You know, it was tax free weekend in South Carolina,
so I did take advantage of some a little bit
of shopping and shit. And you know you could have
shopped online too for tax free. I don't know if
y'all know that or not.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, we did. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's time.
Like I see, the kids are back in school all ready.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I think here in Charleston they don't go back until
the thirteenth, so they're not back in school yet. I
only had the buses running. I still hear the ass outside.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Some people are back, some of these students are back
and I was like, God, damn, they must be in
the slow classes. They got to go back earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's like we used to go to school damn near
September or some shit. I feel like we had more
breaks from school too.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, me too. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
In America, I feel like we just be in school
too long. Period, Like in other countries, children start their
life at sixteen and shit, like they be out of school.
Like we already in school too long, and we don't
have as much breaks and we're still learning less.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
And they just not prepare for adulthood. Yeah, like we
keep them like children too long. I think one of my.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
One of my guy friends, he was saying how him
and his wife held their son back, like he had
the opportuned to go skip two grades and they didn't
think he was ready to be around kids of that
age group. And I'm like, why would y'all do that?
Like he will get acclimated. That's actually going to help him,
you know what I'm saying. I'm never holding my kid back, man,

(02:15):
as sooner I can get they ass up out of
like having to go to school where I don't have
to go to jail about it, because I think I'm
gonna do homeschooling though I don't think my kid's going
to be going to school anyway, or maybe high school.
They'll probably go, but I don't know. I think we
are responsible for our kids' education.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
You don't trust weird as hell? Shout out to homeschool kids,
y'all weirdo. I love y'all, but y'all, y'all be weird.
I think grown something about the socialization don't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's why I said high school, right, So yeah, maybe
they'll get you do miss out on like the social
part of Yeah, so you have no social skills like
they do, be like socially awkward. First of all, these
kids are already socially awkward, you know, whether they go
to school or not.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So shame.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I want to get this to shout out because y'all
remember that candle that I beg AJ four. One of
the listeners of the show was like, got tired of
hearing me talk about it, so she sit it to me, y'all.
Gloria see seventy seven oh seven on Instagram. Y'all, yeam
follow her on TikTok. She told me to tell y'all
follow her she's Ivy Glow official. Thank you so much,

(03:23):
Gloria for sending me to my candle. I haven't lit
it yet because I want to wait until I move
into a new spot. But I love it so and
it ain't that heavy. Aja, I didn't never say it
was heavy.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
What I said was yes, carrying it upstairs along with
all the other shit I'd be having from Costco and
have it in my car. I didn't want it to melt,
so having somebody mail it to you, you know, that's
even great. I do want to thank you Gloria for
pulling up with the candle because I get to save
my forty dollar coins. Okay, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Well.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Shout out to Gloria. I appreciate girl. Thank you so
much for sending me my candle. I can't wait to
light it. I'm leaving New York. I'm leaving New York.
I don't know where I'm going at. Why you of
New York?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Expensive and I'm not I'm taking classes virtually, so it's
just like if I don't have to physically be there,
I don't need to physically be there, you know. So yeah,
I think I might pivot today.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Might as well.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Girl might as well.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Let's get in the sins.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Oh wait, did you do anything this weekend aside from
leaving New York? Okay, we had an uneventful weekend, y'all?
All right, so let's get in the sins. I saw
this article. I followed some weird assa counts on Instagram like.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
It's always like giving you low.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Were studies that I have to go Google to see
if it's true or not. I don't know if it's
satire half the time or not, but this one I
realized that I might identify as a Koala. So it
says new It says when Koala's fail to find the
right partner, they give up and.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Go back to sleep.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
It says Koalas may look adorable, but their love life
doesn't always go as planned. When mating season arrives, male
Koalas call out to find a partner, but if no
one responds, they don't waste energy chasing. Instead, they simply
give up and go back to sleep, a surprising, a
surprisingly mellow way to handle rejection, given that koala is

(05:44):
already snooze for about twenty.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Hours a day.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Even a heartbreak isn't enough to mess with their nap schedule,
Nature's ultimate try again tomorrow energy. I'm not a male
in a koala and be like, Okay, I'm going to
la down.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Right because y'all going to sleep.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And I keep saying, make these t shirts that say
I love to lay down, like you stay out of trouble,
and you don't spend no money, you know, unless you're
like responsible, like damnit them with auto draft. Shit, you
won't spend no money if you sleep first out. You
got to pend no money either way, so you might
as well just let them take.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
It, girl.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, but I still want control. I don't want that
nobody to have that much control over me.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, listen, just take it, you care, just take it.
It's a loosence having them to worry about it when
I can just have you just the people who can
turn shit off, who can just take their money.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Y'all some adults. I don't even have my light though.
Oh no, God, that absolutely not, absolutely not. So yeah,
I identify as a koala and shit ain't going well.
I'm in the house Hiberne in twenty hours today. Yes, okay,
if you can find and mate, go laid my last

(07:04):
I'm the opposite I need to be outside.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Hours of being inside, I feel like I wasted my life.
Let me get up and do something with anxiety, all right.
So I saw this over the weekend. There are now
ninety five thousand people in Japan who are more than
one hundred years old. So as a September twenty twenty four,

(07:28):
officials record records showed that ninety five thousand, one hundred
and nineteen sanitariums across the country. Women make up the
vast majority, account for nearly eighty eight percent of that total.
That's it. Reason listened it rising fx Japan's high life
expectancy and continue investments in health care and living standards.
So I would and did a deeper dive in net

(07:50):
to see if I needed to move to Japan. But
it's their diet. One. They eat like lots of vegetables,
lots of fermented foods, and they have a lot of
anti inflammatory. Their diet is like very anti inflammatory. Then
they also, uh prioritize rest over work. Yeah, and they

(08:14):
also we.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Know Americans dying earlier every time then because we take
the least amount of Then.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
They also prioritize community. So they got homeworks, they got
friends that they do stuff with all the time, Like
it's they go on walks together every morning, they guarding together.
Oh and that's another thing. They get up and they
do mobility exercises in the morning. And I think that's
another thing that we could add to our lifestyle, is

(08:44):
you know, you gotta do mobility exercise, not just walking,
but like keep your joints number and lean.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
You know what I started doing.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
So I got it set up on myself for right now,
but I think I'm set it up on my calendar
on my damn computer. So every forty five minutes, get
up and do ten squads.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
They said it's equivalent to the ten thousand steps to day. Oh,
I haven't seen that now because I don't be having
my watch running and I don't have an Apple watch.
This is just like a fitness watch. You got to
start it, you know, when you start your workout to
actually track. But yeah, and I mean that's going to
get the ass to the l of things too. So
ten squads every forty five minutes throughout the day.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, that's not bad. No, it ain't shit. No. And
then and.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Then I also I saw another study that did say,
like homegirls me saving your life. Like, if you have
a steady set of friends that you communicate with, it
helps with heart disease. Close friends decrease heart disease by
thirty percent. Women, if you have at least three close
friends you communicate with.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Get you some girlfriends, y'all. Yeah, y'all bitches think y'all.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
I'm trying to get those tepe of.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Bitches weird me out.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I don't even know no who say that? No more
is big girl.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I still hear people say that, like why why you
don't have no friends and why you only hang out
with men? Yeah, that's weird, hope, get you some girlfriends. Man,
it's good for the equal system.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
To live longer, eat better, do your mobility stretches. Do
ten squads every forty five minutes. It's hard to keep
up with though. For me.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
That's all you guys set an alarm and when alarm
go off, you just hop up and do it right quick.
And when you take ten.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Seconds, their target busting out ten squads.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
If your ass and target longer than forty five minutes anyway,
and you budgeting, you in trouble anyway, get your ass
out of target. I'd be spending one hundred to Target
every fucking week. I thought we was Yes, I never
left Target. I'm confused why we would boycott Target when
the majority of the workers in Target are black people
oftentimes like so. And then also they do have a

(10:57):
lot of black products in Target. I just never understood that.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Boy God, Yeah, anyway, Well do your ten squads have
for forty five minutes, you guys, I'm gonna start. I'm
gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Mm hmm, it's good.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I I saw doctor Ryan on a podcast. Y'all
know Doctor Cheyenne Bryant. She'd be doing her rounds on
all the podcasts, talking heavy shit and the men usually
being uproars. To me, she never says anything that really
doesn't make sense. I've heard a couple of little things,
but for the most part, I mean, it's like common sense.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Things to me.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
But she was on this show The Truth after Dark,
and she was saying out the host asked her if
she would data man with children. Now, this is a
forty seven young woman when no kids never been married, right,
and we know in that age group, it's gonna be
kind of tough to find somebody your age when no
kids never been married. Also like right to if that's

(11:54):
the type of meath she's looking for.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
But she said some shit.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
She said no, she wouldn't date a man with children
because that's essentially polyamory and she is not signing up
for that. And as a woman who has dated most
the most of the men I have dated have had children,
like and I had to have get in where I
fit in, like nowadays, I don't want that cause it
is essentially polyamory. Like you have to be okay with

(12:21):
this person showing up for this other woman and the
children when he needs to write who am I?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I mean, I feel like kids.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Need to and I'm so understanding, right, I feel like
kids don't need to see their parents even though the
parents aren't together, and they need to see the parents happy, communicating,
maybe even doing.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Stuff with the kids.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
So I'm never going to be like, oh, you can't
go to your baby mama house.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I'm never going to be like that.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
So essentially you are signing up for polyamory, like a
polyamorous relationship.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
But once you get to a like hard to, I mean,
the pigs are already slim. And if you take out
men who have kids, girl, good look.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I mean you might have to the same way men
go younger, but oftentimes men already have families, right, and
then they want a younger woman. I think a lot
of times like older are and I'm gonna stay older
because bitch, I'm not fucking older.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Sometimes I mean, we may not have any kids, so
why we we might need to go younger to get
a man with no kids?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Are all right? Listen, I go younger anyway, so no
kid growing ass man.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
So yeah, I don't disagree with her on that that
you definitely are signed enough for a threesome for some
five sids.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Build a relationship with them. You essentially gotta be prepared
to a bonus mom. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Like I miss my ex's kids, you know what I'm saying,
Like when you start like you have these little people
in your life and then now they're just gone, I'm
just going too.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm pretty sure they've gotten over me. But I missed him,
you know. So I don't know that's the having a
relationship with the kids, because when you leave the man,
you gotta lead the kids too. Exactly, y'all. I've been
checking my conception calendar and if I want a Gemini

(14:25):
next year, I gotta be smashing the last week of
August into the first week of September, and I gotta
be ovulating to the science and the math.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
That's what you are right now. Yeah, yeah, I ain't
even mad at that, hopefully.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
I don't know if the nigga on it though.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
That's the problem, bitch' I'm on it, and I got
to run it past and well he listened.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
To the show, so just send him this episode.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Are you okay with that?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I'm just trying to make sure I can get the
ghana for New Year's I want to I.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Want you going this year. I want to go when.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
You want to go. I don't know. That's my plan
for this year.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I don't want to have to get back to me neither.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
That's the thing. I don't want to take. No, I
don't I heard.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I heard there's some tricky doctors in the US that'll,
you know, get you.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I heard, Yeah, y'all show y'all can help me get
to Diamond. Send me a deal. I fuck with you.
I see a little couple of dollars, grease a palm
or whatever you need.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right let me vaxed cards. Yeah, because I don't want
to have to. I mean, I've heard horror stories, but
I also know people who be outside and may be okay.
So I don't know. I just feel like I'm always
be okay, and if I'm not, I mean, it's just
supposed to happen, Like you can't let that's how about that?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
People, y'all trust God and try to pressure me into
getting it, and then listen, y'all. I was sitting outside
the center and I did not want to go in.
I was already late for the appointment. I was just
sitting outside and AJ was on the fuck. She's like,
where are you at. I was like, I'm outside the vaccination.
She's like, drive off, And that's all I needed to hear.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
We organic got this motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Nobody who got who didn't get vaccinated regrets it. Nobody
nobody regrets it. But I you know, it's some horror
stories out there, man. But there is a way to detox.
Because this thing's supposed to put like a bunch of
heavy metals in your body. There's a way to detox everything.
Your body is supposed to be able to heal. And
that is the best immunity you can have. Right to

(16:37):
get your Those people in Japan, they got good gut health.
That's all that is. Eating all that fermented shit. Girl,
you just blowing.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Let you hear it. Mute.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Sorry, God, while we talking about not having.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I slept under the faint.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
And blowing hard.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I got and I know we can be done. But
I got one more thing, y'all. They say it's a
UFO coming our way and it's mouths and it's where
the space space debris. But scientists are thinking it's really
a u f O and it's supposed to uh, and

(17:23):
it's headed toward Earth and it's supposed to reach us
by October. I hope too. Huh what what I'm I'm
tired of the same old meat. Every It's the same
old meat over again, over and again. I hope they
bring a new type of meat.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Like like some type of alien something like that that
got the seasoning already in it. I cannot wait for
humans to get little and animals to get big and
be eating us, y'all. Niggas need y'all, come on, man, you.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Do not need. Like I knew if you tied it
the current meat, stop eating it. I listen. I gave
up pork yesterday when Nigga said he don't want me
eat no pork, so I gave it up.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
But ye ain't nobody want to eat no pork? Pussy
ain't nobody had no problem? But he said, because you was,
you was fucking with meat eating. Now you got with
it like a clean god. Okay, And he gave up.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And listen who as I gave the devil his busney
because I gave up pork and a pepperoni pizza slid
through here and I was like, oh my god. I
was like I was sniffing it, like not my mama biscuits, biscuits,
but I.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Ain't eat it hungry. Yeah, I don't know, man, I
don't miss that. The only thing I missed is my barbecue.
I used to make these good ass barbecue wings that
would marinate for like a whole day, like jerk barbecue
on the ground. Yes, that's the only thing I miss
my own shit. I just the only thing I have

(19:03):
a problem with is like finding food. I really can't,
Like you be door dashing doing all the things. I
can't do none of that ship because it's gonna be
trash that comes.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
It's not like I can't.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Get a good burger or some good wings, some quick shit.
I can't. I gotta cook for the most part, which
isn't a bad thing because it's a lot of trash.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah restaurants anyways, true anyway, So if the aliens come,
I do hope they bring like uh i ham but
it's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
That's so fat ship man with straight foolishness man. All right, y'all,
So we got a fun episode lined up for this week.
We have Chantel Chivon and we talked back this week
and y'all, I found out she's my cousin. Okay, just
because she's from Trosting, she's she's a medium. She does

(20:03):
all the fun magic shit, right, I call everything magic,
just things that you can.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
We're talking more about spirituality in sex and how they
aligned today. So we're gonna get into that, and we're
gonna get y'all the pussy Pro, the Pussy Stimulator Pro
seven thousand. We go get y'all a week to that,
so y'all stay tune.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
All right, y'all know, Okay, we love all things spirituality,
right like Taro RICKI yoga magic. I like magic and
occasionally we have to have a little taptin baddie when
we talked back, and today's guest is doing all the things,
So welcome to we talk back.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Shante, that's my cousin, y'all. I didn't know what until
she got here.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
They related. Hell, they're the same person. They're not even cousins.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
They Oh how people be saying, Oh, I don't know
where the U came in, but.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Oh chantal so y'all.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I asked her what she didn't want to talk about,
and she shared. I was like, okay, because we don't
want to get you slapped, like chantale A, what's that?
You'll be the second Chantel getting slapped this week?

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Her parents? Damn.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Look you see how two if I am?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
The conversation we had as soon as you got up
and here y'all about the period. Yeah, we love y'all.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
So I want to get into it. I want to
talk all right. First of all, let's talk about you
a little bit before I start asking you questions about
fucking all right, but before you tell us, we got
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Speaker 1 (22:06):
I cannot like, I cannot way, I can't like this.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
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Speaker 3 (22:14):
Excuse me, gold Girl? I what black thought? That's a
good one, right, that's a good one. I thought you
said taking a shot. They did a big one with
that's him, and you just set it.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
We got full episodes and we're doing one d We're
doing them every episode, so we got a little lightweight.
So because that's where the conversation is heading, right, I
want to talk about like sex and spirituality and how
that ship you know, goes together. But let's get to
know you a little bit, like tell us about you
and like how you got involved in this arena and

(22:46):
all those things.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, So, I mean, I've always been intuitive. I've had
some crazy experiences from childhood. So I grew up in Charleston,
and if you know anything about the Low Country, there's
a lot of activity going on there. So I've had
a lot of spiritual occurrences. And then as I got older,
I randomly ran into some mediums and some of them

(23:09):
became my mentors. Different cities that I moved to. It
was just very serendipitous how I would meet them, and
they taught me how to tap into my gifts. And
so I started my business in twenty seventeen and I've
been doing readings ever since. Then. I opened up my
studio two years ago and so now I help people
connect with loved ones that have passed. I helped them

(23:30):
with their in her childhood trauma, things that have happened
in their childhood to adolescents, and I used that with
my gifts and then just spiritual coaching.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
So have you ever ran into somebody grandma that was
like real nasty and.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yes, I well, you know, I wouldn't say nasty, but
because when you cross over, you go back to your
true form, but they show up in the way that
you remember them.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
So if.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
If you're a bit hard headed and you haven't been listening,
because you know, our guides, our ancestors, sent us signs
all the time. So when you come in for a session,
I've had some grandmothers and even grandfathers.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Come in talking shit Yeah heavy, Yes, didn't I tell
you to stop spending your rent money?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Nigga?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Oh my god, that's.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
What I've saw some shit the other day and.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Somebody was saying it, I had forty eight leases, how
the folks you don't live forty eight different places in
life and life crazy?

Speaker 2 (24:32):
It was on eighty five.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
So I don't know, but that Nigga is an unstable creature.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Right, it's crazy? So all right, I want to talk
about the intersection between spirituality and sex, okay, whatever.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
So we had an episode recently called uh Discipline, and
we didn't really get into like the the the bond, right,
the old ties that you might create with the people
you engage with sexually. We talk about sexually transmitted demons
on this show also, like just's th real?

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, right, So to talk to us about what that
intersection looks like when you're the spirituality aspect of sex, I.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Hate to say this, but I would say most of
us are walking red flags. So we think we can
compartmentalize sex where oh it's just something I do. But
a lot of trauma bonding, you are completely unaware of
why you do the things you do, why you choose
sexual partners, and it's really really hard to disconnect from that,

(25:40):
and the only way you can figure that out is
through grief. And through healings. So when you're somebody may
be a karmic lesson and they're only here to teach
you this lesson, and then the relationship ends when that
lesson is learned. But then you keep getting into other
karmic patterns because you learn the lesson from that person,
but you didn't realize you're the common denominator and so
this is why you're tracting that. And then karmic lessons

(26:01):
can turn into soul ties, they can turn into trauma bonding.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
So Harry, so explain what a karmic lesson is, because
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
So a karmic lover is someone that you've encountered that
there's a lesson you need to learn from a previous
life or sometimes earlier in this life. And it can
feel really invigorating. It could feel really good in the beginning,
but then it quickly goes left. But then what do
we do? We try to justify and explain their actions,

(26:34):
and so you get in this tumultuous relationship because the
person it is going to be toxic because they are
trying to teach you this lesson. But then that's so
that's a karmic lover. It turns into a soul tie
when you develop emotional intimacy or physical intimacy.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's why I say.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Being really cautious of who you choose to take to
bed with because you're a physical intimacy. Then it turns
into why can't I let this person go? There's an
energetic tie there and even and a soul tie doesn't
have to be someone that you're intimate with. It can
be a friend, it could be an enemy, but you've
developed that bond based off of your emotional connection and
your physical connection, So it could be years after you've

(27:13):
been with that person that you still think about them.
It doesn't mean you can't move on, but there's going
to be that lingering thought and then your trauma bond
that's purely psychological. So this is your inner child. Your
inner child is picking partners trying to heal what happened
to you. And it can be small. When people use
the word trauma like it's it has to be something catastrophic,

(27:34):
it really has to be.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
But so yeah, Yank, I'm just thinking about my past
situations that she's explaining it. I was like trauma, bon
traumavon trauma.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, I recently got out of a relationship, right, and
I know that the relationship with this person transcends this lifetime.
Like I know, I feel like he might have been
my son in another life.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Like that's like because I feel like when you meet people, sorry,
I feel like a lot. It's my opinion. When you
meet people, it's the same people over and over about
different lives. Like different lives. Right, So me and Tammy
probably knew each other in another life, a different We
fought in that one, We could fight in this one.
There's that part sometimes I want.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
That might be some.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
You know, hold on side note, sidebar, I don't want
to do uh.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
When I left to say Louis, we.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Used they used to have this spot that did mud fighting.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I ain't getting it, no motherfucker mud not my hair, girl.
I you know they got those new those new black
swim caps. That's big for big hair. The mud is
good for your skin.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Like we could use like red clay.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
So you want to roll around in mundy with me,
We get it back, Let's do it ship.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I mean it could be like a weekly thing, like
have weekly Yeah, come mud fight man.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
These niggas was making money a mud.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Fighting in Saint Louis like the girls was coming to
fight and it was really rest Yes, I want to
do it, Yes, as long as.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I can keep putting something on my hair because this
is this ship was expensive. I can't get no mod
in that. But outside of that, I'm wrestle your hands,
put you in a mud, chocold bitch, All right, We're
I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I'm sorry. So anyway, I feel like, you know, he
might have been I definitely you know you when you
be with somebody for boy else I was looking to
like all types of shit, like I had to dump
him in this lifetime m hm, right, because I never
did before.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So I feel like some type of relief because any like,
we've never actually broken up, even though we've had I've
had different relationships. He was in prison right for a lot,
so the judge, so the courts was breaking us out
like the fans had broken ourself for a very long time.
So I never actually broke up with him, so like
I felt like I've severed, Like because when you date somebody,

(30:06):
they are aspect of who you are.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
He said this in another episode, like when you're trying.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
To get rid of that part of you, you gotta
cut those people off. And then I think it's also
like a next level you're going to get to.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It is enough level, But then when you get rid
of them, they're also a mirror to you as well,
so they're revealing to you something about yourself that you
feel is inadequate or something that brings out the best
in you. So that's how when people repeat those cycles,
they mean, oh, I ended this, but then they kind
of disassociate. They put the blame solely on the other person.
But it really, I mean, it takes to the tangle,

(30:38):
especially if you keep running into these same scenarios. You're
the common denominator in your situation. And it's not to
say that to make you feel shameful or place blame,
but to realize how much power you actually do have,
and that every person that you attract in your life,
it's not a coincidence.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Hmm. You didn't hone with that.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I don't ever run into the same type of person.
It's always different bullshit, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
I think I run into a very, very loving, giving,
unavailable people every time.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Saying you, what about you is emotionally unavailable?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
But here's the thing. I mean for the fucking dating myself.
But why am I? I'm available but unavailable at the
same time, and I just don't know. I can't put
my finger on why.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Well, that's your trauma bond. I have the same issue too,
where if you well, I think a lot of people do.
You're not listening to yourself when how do you feel
when you're engaging someone or just even your collecting data,
like how do you want to be experienced? And how
do you want a man to experience you? And oftentimes
we'll chalk up, well, he's a good guy, so this

(31:44):
is why I should keep talking to him. But something
intrinsic or you have that feeling like something is off,
and we're always looking for evidence to support our intuition
rather than trusting our intuition. Ie thinking, m that's what
I was talking about.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I'm just thinking about all these past situations and it's
very similar. Like I've been feeling like a hamster on
a wheel running.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
So it's maybe you can sit with your feelings of
if you can think about a memory from childhood and
you may think it's insignificant, but I promise you it's not,
especially when you're from like kindergarten to fifth grade. You
don't have a ton of memories, but the ones you do,

(32:26):
that's consciously playing or subconsciously playing, because it's trying to
heal that wound that you're completely unaware of. So on
the surface level, you know you're emotionally unavailable. So like, okay,
I attract emostally unavailable men, But that's a very surface level.
When you get when you really sit with your feelings,
it's going to bring you back to certain memories that
you've had in your childhood, and then it's going to

(32:46):
unlock other things like oh this is this is where
the birthplace of where this started from. I felt like
I had to protect myself. So while I'm not going
to be emotionally available, I can look at sex as
a transaction and I think that I'm associated, but I'm
not because now I'm attached to this person because i
can't vocalize how I'm really feeling. But I'm using my
body to do that. And your issues are and your tissues,

(33:08):
especially your womb, that is a very sacred part of
your body. And so you neglected that when you're neglecting yourself,
even if you use a condo. Yes, I think I'm
got sex as a ritual.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
It's not really sex with a condo.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's not like they say, wow, coming don't count. And
you know, even that is a generational womb though. If
you think about your your mother, your grandmother's, how many
seventy five percent of women. I've never had a vaginal orgasma.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
So I talked.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I talked about this before because I had an old
lady living with me. She was eighty three years old
when I met her, right, and we would have conversations
about all types of shit and just we would have
we had conversations about sex before and the way she
would talk about like moments in her life when she
was intimate. It just never sounded pleasure a woman.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like you just get on top of me and do
his big you.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Know, orgasm is like a new age thing. It's like
men didn't give a shit if we were coming in
not at some point.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
And that is well, it's both. I mean, it's mis
education and especially growing up in the South and purity
culture where they're teaching girls to save their virginity for marriage,
but then they're telling boys we'll wrap it up. But
they're not teaching them to value their bodies. But they're
telling women your body is sacred for your husband.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
So all of that.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
If you think about epigenetic epigenetics, where you were formed
in your grandmother's womb, so all of that, you carry
their baggage. You carry their trauma and the only way
you heal through that is through grief. And that's why
a lot of us don't know. You can't even tell
your partner, Okay, I'm not having a vaginal orgasm, but
you don't know how to fix that. You know, it's

(34:45):
easy to have a clatoral orgasm because it's outside of you,
it's not internal.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
So and their roles will do it every dash get
a job done.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I had to text your eggs and I was like, Yo,
did you did you?

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Did you put my vibrators in water? Oh? Imagine this.
Imagine you got one.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Vibrator that's plugged up like it's rechargeable, and then the
other is operated by batteries. How does both of these
I'm in the middle of nothing. I'm in the middle
of right in the first one, like, oh my god,
I'm just frambling, like I got like a little little
little hidden spot on the side of the magic and

(35:25):
I didn't realize he knew where it was and right,
So then I grabbed the other one, and this one
does the same thing. He wants me to believe. He
ain't do nothing to my vibrators. It's no way like
these things operate.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Different and neither one.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Neither one on the work.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I was fast when this happened. I was doing it
was way over seventy to our fast. I'm like, METI God, like, girl,
you be doing this too much.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Stop I haven't. They hate to see you coming. What
is like, I can't do no more?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
But I haven't went and bought another one because I
just feel like I'm gonna get to the next level
if I stop masturbing.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
It's in my mind like regular DJing. It doesn't do
you ever. Just sometimes go to the old fashioned route.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
That ship man, who got time for that? We gotta
work in the morning.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
See that's that's the problem. I see that talk about
being disconducted. It's a quick fix. You're not You're not
enjoying yourself. It's like this be dating herself.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
She should like Dennis like, right by the bite your life.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Why not you want a man to do that?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Why can't you do it for yourself. Thirty two seconds
of sleep with the road.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I mean that, of course. I mean who is satisfied
pro too? That's I think it's actually better than the rose.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
But you know satisfied pro too, ill look that up
those roses.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
It is too much, y'all. Don't know what type of
clits y'all because my chi can not say.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
You get desensitized if you do it too much.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I know I'll be vibrating all night.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
The guys in your head, we got with it in
your head?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, all right?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I had another question. All right, I'm sorry. How do
you recognize when a lover is draining your energy or
blocking your blessing? I always do.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Well. If the loraining you thinking about me training your energy,
it's probably because you're draining your own energy, but it's
just being manifested through this person.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I had a client once that came to me. She
was in her early thirties and she was crying over
this relationship. But he was twenty years older than her.
When she first met the man, she's been with him
for ten years. When she first met him, she had
her own business. She's very successful, and when she met him,
he had his own business as well, but then she
quickly realized his business wasn't doing great, so she put

(37:51):
her business on hold to run his business. But she
was in way over her head. They were in the
process of having their car repossessed, like so much. Many
things were happening, and she couldn't see that it was
because she was with this man. She gained like thirty pounds.
She was like, she just looked tired.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Let make it what.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
At But no, I mean, and it didn't matter what
I told, like literally telling me I look younger than you.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
He was literally draining my life source. He was older
than me, not that much older, but he was looking younger.
I wasn't doing my hair, I wasn't doing shit, just
looking crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
We're life givers. Literally, when men have energy after they
have sex with us, that's literally that's fine.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Our body be.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Tired, a lot of energy they'll get now they it's
they're taken because we feel like it's our job to
just give and not really receive. I'm not saying all women,
but most women. That's that's how they treat sex. So
if you're depleted, if you if he's draining your energy, like,

(39:01):
how do you feel when you're with this person is ore?
Is your judgment clouded? If you feel like you can't
even tap into your own intuition or think logically about something,
that that relationship is distorted. So I think so many
of us we look outside of ourselves and we have
completely lost the connection with our own intuition. So that's
why we get confused when really are our intuition is

(39:24):
probably our greatest power. Like, so you can prevent that
in the beginning when you first meet someone, you don't
need a reason to see like is this guy a
bad person? Or if your body is telling you something
is off, why do you need to question it?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
If you got b the he's as if you feel
like you don't have no intuition, but how do you
just don't know? Like you're not tapping gonna tell you.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
That in bred.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Hawaii bitch getaway right there?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Bright?

Speaker 2 (40:06):
So are you said like you're not connected to your intuition.
How would you advise someone to reconnect to their intellition?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
For one, I think they need a social media detox
because you're social media especially and I love TikTok, like
I that's like my TV. But it becomes an echo chamber.
So you had to be mindful of what you're feeding
your psyche, because then you see dialogues and people are
arguing and they're like especially with men and women, but
they're in the same frequency, so like no one's trying

(40:34):
to hear each other. It's an ever chamber. So you
really need a detox and just kind of rest. I
think that's the main thing, especially with Black women, Like
you know, we're successful, we have the highest in degrees,
but a lot of that is because it's a distraction.
You know, we if we're focusing on something else, we
don't have designed to sit there and deal with our
own things. So it doesn't have to be hard, but

(40:55):
we don't know how to rest. How many of are
mothers like or grandmothers. They're always out and about. Even
when my mom retired and then two weeks later I
got another job, I just.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Felt like the problems with my mom came out because
I would rest. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
She didn't like to see me, just because culturally that's
not our thing. You know, our thing isn't.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Being productive as being busy.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
And we even got I deep like all the songs
everything strong Black women, all of it is like and
I don't rest down.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, I love to lay down, like I don't like
I don't like hustling. I don't like feeling like I
got all these things to do, even though I'll do them,
I really got to push myself to do all the things, like.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I just don't want to though.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Same, I feel like Black women are supposed to just
lay down like great, we're supposed to be resting, okay,
and then and then we can think right and then
just create money out of thin air because we can
think and actually making money off of things we can create.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
You're a woman is having to go to work here
and you're in masculine energy. When you're working right, working
is it's a masculin energy, and of course you need both,
but then you've gotten so disconnected from our femininity, our creativity,
our womb that houses your creativity, it houses your feminine power.
And when that's out of balance, you don't you get

(42:19):
into here. You think, you overthink, and then you get emotional,
and then you don't react from like you don't know
how to respond from your emotions. You're just reacting. So
you are completely disconnected.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
So rest that's the biggest tool.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
And not and I don't mean rest, like, yeah, that's
that's it has to be like productive rests something and
where you're getting adequate sleep, but then doing something that
calms your nervous system, and that's where you create something
you circle you know you actually can use that to manifest.
No I do.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
I definitely be saying all type of shit when I'm
about to come. Okay, I definitely use my sexual energy and.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
So listen, that's that's what I've been doing already. I
used to think about past experiences. I'm not like a
laptop girl porn. I don't like that. I need to
I use my imagination. But now I don't even think
about them no more. I just think about what I
want from our futures.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
And that's really what the sexual energy is for. So
that's what a lot of men be tapping into the strippers.
You fu with the stripper, you're gonna start getting money. Really,
that's the that's the energy strippers come with getting money.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I guess that's very true.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I feel like so the days that I want to
really like work out because I started doing hot yoga, right,
I don't be mess well. I can't mastery now because
I don't have a toy.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
But I think.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
It takes energy from you. You know what I'm saying,
Like the next day, Yes, I'm so sluggish.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
That's because you're using two toys one night, they all
tied like this is an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
The DJ and getting think like, just use your hand.
I think you need to get read acquainted with yourself
is too much. It's too much.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Because to make sure I drink a lot of water.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
We are in the age of social media where everything
is fast.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
No, no, not nasty sea, so it is not nasty, right.
Self love is the best love, I agree.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Otherwise you're just treating yourself like a transaction.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Oops, I did it again.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Nothing. But if you do that all the time to
where then you feel like you just connecting with your
body is too much work. It's too much work because
you don't know how to rest. It's too much work
because you're always on the gohot, so you're looking for
a quick fix. So that is being disconnected from yourself. Nothing.
Don't know. I love a good rose and I love

(44:51):
the satisfying pro too, But satisfied that is really good.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I'm ordering it. But now you're telling me just go
ahead and DJ.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I think you should create a mood an ambiance in
your home that makes you feel feminine, that makes you
feel like a woman. Gets some aphrodisiacs, some oysters, oysters,
some chocolate covered strawberries, play some music, get a satin
road in. They're by myself in there by yourself. That
is manifesting because it's the act of that, like how

(45:21):
you're taking care of your body, how you're pleasing yourself,
You're inviting that energy into your space.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Imokin, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna give me some
strawberries tonight. All right, go ahead, go ahead. I was
about to say red flags. Your body and spirit will
pick up before your mind does.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Does your body tense up when you're on a date.
Do you feel yourself trying to accommodate to his needs
where you're compromising parts of yourself. Do you find yourself
making excuses for someone like oh, he's a nice person,
or like justifying something that no one really asked you,
but like you're again that doesn't serve you, but.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
You justify it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I wanted to get into uh uh, you know, because
social media you have like the hood healer and what's
the some of the other girlies, that something.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Mega dreams.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, all these different people on social media, sorry, larger
than life, you know what I'm saying, they be doing anything.
I don't doubt doubt that some of these people are
indeed tapped in. But is it healing or is it hustling?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Are so many people like Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they are.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
You know, Cleo was on something, man, she was getting
her back.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
She was so she was serious. I think it's a
combination of both. I do think there is a balance.
You should be compensated, You should be compensated, but also
I think part of the work is teaching people to
empower themselves so that they don't feel dependent on you.
And if you feel like like where people are constantly
coming to you for things and it's the same thing,

(47:01):
then you're just you're depleting their energies. So I think
there there is a bounce because money isn't you know,
it's energy. So you want to be compensated fairly for
the work that you're providing. But what are you leaving
with them that they can take and posit it to
someone else?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yeah, So when you see like people come to you
for everything, So I guess people start whenever somebody like
has like a spiritual awakening, and then some people they
start like leaving the church. But then you end up
trying to find something else to believe in, right, instead
of believing in yourself and looking within. So they end
up in the hands of a false program fortune teller.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
You know what I'm saying. And listen, there'd be a
lot of them, and they got the same script that
they First of all.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
They should if someone is reaching out to you for like,
oh I got a message for you, that is a scam.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah shit, that is a scam from Africa every time.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
No, for real.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
And I'm like one day this person was saying so
much wow shit to me. I'm like, yo, what this
is a demon in my inbox? Because the things that
he was like, why are you putting this stuff on
my life?

Speaker 3 (48:07):
None of this is happening to me, So why are you?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Why are you engageing.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
It's I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
I just read it. I just read it, and like
why would I didn't say anything back to them, But
what kind of thing is that? Though?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Because they want you to be afraid, they want you
to depend. I have a so I had a lady
when I used to live in Texas. There was this
psychic store down the street from my apartment, and I
by this time, I was already a meetium. I have
my mentors. But something kept telling me to go to
get a reading from her, and I was like, why
don't need to get a reading from her? But I

(48:41):
finally went and she was telling me like I had
I was cursed when I was in my mother's womb
and all of these crazy things. And then she had
me write my name on a paper and she was like,
for an additional one hundred and fifty dollars, I can
do this energy cleanse for you. And I was like, no,
I'm good, and she was like you're calling this. She
takes my name and she rips it up, and so

(49:02):
when I left, I was like I was I was
so mad on my god. I was like, why isoud'all
having to do that? And they're like, cause you need
to see what the other side. It's like how there's
a lot of people like that that create fear to
make you reliant on that person. So it's one thing
to tap into something that like if you're doing a
reading for a person, you can pick up on what
they're going through. But then your guides are giving your
ancestors are giving you something to help pull you through

(49:24):
that so that you're not coming to them for the
same you're not coming back for the same issue. So yeah,
it's it's a mess.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well what do you say to people that say, like
what you do is evil?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
You know, growing up in Charleston, I grew up Southern Baptist,
So I even my closest friends when I first it
was like I was spiritually closeted and they were not.
It was it was very fear based. But I had
to kind of get over that because I'm like they're
looking through their own perception, and especially black people, and

(49:58):
especially if you grew up in the Low Country, like
they've been doing your your grandmother's great grandmothers everything, and
they've hid that in Christianity to as a form of
protection and they think that's religion. It's not religion, it's
just protection work. Like you could be a Buddhist and
a Christian, you could be a root worker and a Christian.
But and then with what I do, if I were

(50:18):
to tell people I was a prophet, if I was
in the church and told people I was a prophet,
they would they wouldn't bad enough, and then why But
what's the difference between a prophet and a psychic or
a prophet and the media and nothing. It's all churgantics.
So it used to bother me, but then I realized,
you know, when you're honest and you're living in your truth,
the right people will attract you.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
So have you ever been walking down the street and
like somebody Grandma was like tell them something real quick. No,
it's not Molly, you and danger girl, you know from ghosts.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
No, I've met a stranger where I'm like in conversation
and I might hear. It doesn't happen often, but like
if I'm talking to them and I'll say something like
I don't know, I'll just get like a download and
say something to them and they're like, how did you
know that? Like this one lady I met she I
saw this young man and I was like, do you

(51:13):
have a son that passed? And she looked at me
like yeah, And I was like, he's showing like a
silver ball, like it's a necklace, and then she literally
pulled out the necklace. It was well, she kept his
ashes like part of his ashes, and and it was
just a message of like, you know, he's still with
you or whatever. But so I try to so like
sometimes things like that will happen, but I try to

(51:36):
get messages where it's very specific to them and it's
not just like, oh, you're going through a hard time.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Oh your grandma yell list yeah righty grandma yell.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Like yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah hmmm.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
So I uh, like I said I was going through
a breakup, right, And this day I was on shrooms.
And I just saw his Instagram post the other day saying,
how did you I ain't this ain't spirituality?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
You're on drugs. I started thinking about that because I
do like.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
To do shrooms occasionally, right, yeah, I'll like herodose, like,
but I'm not leaving the house though, Oh of course
not like it's now That's what I'll make a date
for it. I make a date to do shrooms, right,
I make a whole little bath, all the things. Right,
So this, I actually did this shrooms earlier that day,
and then by the evening time, I'm good, right, but
I'm outside, I'm riding home. It's probably like twelve o'clock

(52:28):
and I see like the psychic thing open twelve nights.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
I'm like, let me go in there. So I go,
and I'm contemplating all types of things in my mind.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Right I'm in this relationship. I'm like, this shit is
eating me, you know what I'm saying. So I need
somebody to talk to. So I call the number that's
on the building because it said well, I pulled up
because it said open. Right when I got there, it
wasn't really open. Then I called the number and the
person answered the phone, a little old lady, little old
white lady voice over the phone.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Was like hey, honey. I'm like hey. She was like
you okay.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
This is how she was talking to me.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
I'm like, oh my god, like no, I'm not okay.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
She was like, is it about a relationship, Like she's
I'm like, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
So she was like, well, come see me tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
You can come to my house, come at eleven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
So that I'm making plans the next one. I'm like, oh,
I'm about to go see this lady.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
She wanted to go tell me all She's gonna tell
me all the things and all the shit already, fucking
know you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know
why we'd be looking for confirmation outside of ourselves will
be you need some botious you know what I'm saying.
So long story short, this bitch was on some bocious
like get there, you gotta be putting my hand on
the Bible.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
I'm like, what is happening?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Two hundred dollars later.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
She's like, yeah, you need to lead that nigga. No,
I didn't say that you need to leave that. Man. Baby,
Now you.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Trying to add on some extra shit like this is
gonna call it the same shit you was saying. I'm like, man,
those time, I want to I want. I really wanted
to fight her because why are you finishing people like this?
I really was about to start reading her, but I
just got up out of her, out of her house
because I.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Just because you're playing with people. I mean, you don't
know the mental state that someone is in, and now
you want to add to their fear, their anxiety and
not make them feel empowered or give them any type
of comfort because it's all a money grap but that's
why they're they're in that energy.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Like so she literally a little a little a little
witch low ass Soka like all right, so I know,
like I believe that you know the spirit world and
our world intermingled.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Do my grandma see me having sex?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yes, I mean they know you having sex, but they're
not like I don't want my grandma, you know, they're
not like.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
They're too discust. So you're is that nigga pushing you up?
Back down? You growdmap? They laugh at that. Shiit See
that made me not want to do it.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
You know, I don't think you're any bose the thrower.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Yeah, no, I don't want try to protect your in it,
especially if you would a low vibrational man.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Have you ever had like some type of spiritual download
or something that you some type of intuition in the
act of sex.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Not in the act, but it's I've had a download
that's caught. Had me catch a guy doing something he
was supposed to be doing. M h. I was this guy.
We used to live in the sandbuilding, and I remember
I came home from work. As soon as I put
my keys down, I heard go check your mail. I
was like, well, I'm need to check my mail and

(55:45):
I knew I didn't have anything. They're like, go check
your mail. So I went to go check my mail.
Sure enough, nothing was in there. As soon as I
turned around the corner, he came out the elevator with
another woman was dealing with each other and I he
did a double take. And normally when he would see me,
it's like oh hey, you know. He was like hey,
and then like like scurried out the and I was like,
did I just So then I was talking to my friend.

(56:09):
She's like, oh no, maybe it was you know someone, No,
maybe it was just a friend or a relative. So
then I was meditating and I was like, if I'm
supposed to see something, like like, really see who he is,
show me in a gentle way. And two days later,
another friend sent me a screenshot of him where he
someone posted him on are we dating the same guy?

(56:32):
Every day? Women like came through the woodworks and that's
all I needed to see. Yeah, so he had like
a revolving off that elevator.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
We're going down the stairs this time, baby, it's up
wrong with the elevator business talk with somebody in your building,
Like like that's just too close, it's too close, all
lived together, that's the case.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
You won't see something like that, especially if you just
dating in this casual Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, it's a lesson learned never did.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Are you in a relationship now, No, ma'am?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Why the fuck is that funny? What advice do you
have for our listeners when it comes to their spirituality
and sex?

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Well, I would suggest the sooner you can deal with
your trauma you're in her childhood trauma, the quicker you
can stop aligning with men that are in that same frequency,
because as long as you're putting the onus and the
blame solely on them, you're never going to get out
of that cycle. And then for karmic lessons, it doesn't

(57:36):
have to develop into anything further if you just take
the lesson for what it is and see what is
the role that I played. It's not saying that you're
the sole person that's responsible, but what did I contribute
to this? And the second you can do that you
get out of that loop as well. And then lastly,
making sure you rest so you can connect with yourself
and tap into your intuition.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
And what's the name of that machine you said you.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
The satisfire pro Too. They had that was the newer model, the.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Satisfied Pro Too. Amazon. You tonight, all right? Do you
want to do like a mini reading with one of us?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Oh? Like online.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, can you if you don't want to do that,
you don't have to a girl, I don't make me.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
I mean like, well, what time is it? How much time? Oh?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
We got like fifteen good minutes.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Oh, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
You don't have to.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Quite nervous, because I don't like to mix my spirits.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
So and that's why we in his sweating okay, because
we just like in all the spirits.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
If you're still here when I'm when I'm not great,
I don't mind, Okay, okay, No, no, that's fair, that's fair.
I don't you know.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
All right, Well, tell everybody where they can find Oh no,
she got to have a dumbit store. We got to
get the dumbis story.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, she didn't kind of tell did you keep sucking
to do it on that it?

Speaker 3 (59:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (59:04):
No, she w are you reculated?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Baby?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Come back upstairs.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
I ain't say anything. There was nothing to be said.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Was y'all didn't have no conversation about that? Did you
to talk about?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Well that's a good way to hang.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Know. Closure comes from when you realize why you why
you move the way you do. That's the closure you get, like,
oh my goodness, it really wasn't him. He's got his
own stuff. I'm not even mad at the perp. Like,
I'm not even mad at him because I can clearly
see when I was healing my trauma, like the trauma
that he had, and how we trauma ponded. So that
didn't it didn't have anything to do with me. It

(59:38):
was just.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
It was what it was. Mm hm. All right, Well,
now tell everybody where they can find you to plug
all your things.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
You can find me on Instagram at Underscore, a Secret
Garden Underscore, and my website a Secretgarden dot org. And
you got an event coming up right? Oh I do?
Oh my god, keep for remarking me. Wait, so I
have a couple events, but I do have We're doing
a retreat next month in like Wiley, South Carolina. It's

(01:00:12):
gonna I'm gonna have a sex She's like a sex therapist.
She's a nurse practitioner, and she is really passionate about
women's orgasms. So the whole retreat is really centered around
emotional release, physical intimacy, things you can do to increase
your sex drive for those that are struggling. And then

(01:00:32):
we're gonna have an intuitive workshop next month, just playing
some fun games to teach you, like what type of
Claire are you? Are you clairvoyant, Clare audience, Claire sentient?

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
So yeah, this sounds like fun. Yeah, is that on
your page? All of those links?

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Okay, y'all, y'all check that out, y'all, go Tapan the
sex therapists. They gonna have the pussy stimulated to the
what's it golf?

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Oh and we give a lady.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Give away.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
We do give away toys, but it's the satisfier pro
to get the original one, get the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Get the two. The two is better. All right, this
was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
You're gonna put out the link for that, so we yeah, yeah,
mark uhh when people click on the link.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
What is it called? I know what you're talking about,
but I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Huh affiliate code? Yeah, all right, a figure out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
This is good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
This is a lot of fun, a lot of good
information for me, especially seriously, So thank you, y'all.

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