May 16, 2024 • 60 mins
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In this episode of “We Talk Back”, Tambam and AJ get into their S.I.N.S of the week which includes the recent diss record trend, Mary J Blige new boot line and Anita Baker's tardiness and more. Next the sit down with Bay Area's own T. Reezy to unpack the psychology of pimping, the role of women in managing money, the relationship between religion and pimping, the motivations behind sex work, the stigma associated with it and more. Lets discuss in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, the production of iHeartRadio
and the Black Effect Network.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
to talk.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Thank you for turning in for a new episode We
Talked Back. The show dedicated to you dreamers and chasers, y'all.
This is your co host, A J. Holiday.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's up, tam damn Hey, y'all, it's a physical tamvam.
I love y'all. I love you to aj hore you do.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm wonderful, Okay, I'm wide awake.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Bit tired, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm tired. I have a crazy ass weekend, but I
do feel a little bit tired, Auntie, like I went
out just to jump right into our weekends. I did
go out on Friday night. That was about it for
my weekend. I hung out and did some live karaoke.
Is wherever I go? I need a mic? And it
(01:02):
wasn't karaoke night and no shit like that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I thought you was gonna say wherever I go, I'd
be a hoe.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I thought you was gonna say that. But go ahead, finish.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's your mantra, bitch, don't do it. Mantra. No wherever
I go at, I gotta fight figure out where the
mic at. So I always ask for the mic. And
as soon as I get the mic, and not everybody
want the mic, do y'all own things. You know, I
just like to be heard.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So my weekend, I'm sorry to cut you off. I
went to the strip club again. It's like Charlotteage opened
up the strip club floodgates for me, and now I
just been in the strip club again. I went to
Onyx and the hell I thought it, I know, I
didn't even know they were still open me either. I
thought it was somebody's birthday. But turn out Nigga was
about to turn itself in, so we.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Throwing up money instead of paying canteen or saving up
for I don't know, trial or something.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't know. I ain't know him, so it wasn't
my It was my crossings, fucking.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Them people money.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I was like, two for you, two for me,
two for you, two for me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Don't you ration in a strip affair? Oh, I'm telling
whoever the fuck Tammy was out with this past weekend.
She got all y'all fucking ones. I smelled booty juice
on it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It never made it to nobody. Booty, you never made.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It, but that money was on. Well, No, they do
be coming out with some Chris ones. I'm always scared,
like they throwing fake money in the strip club. Man,
Like y'all just be getting all these Chris stacks of
ones Usher books.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You remember Usher was throwing all them Usher books that
value to absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I always be like, like if a nigga just threw
a whole stack out of bitch like, would she be mad?
Like if you stripping and somebody just throw a whole
block of money at you, could you get mad?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Or you just be like, I'm happy somebody thought a
whole block of money at my head right now.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You're gonna be okay with it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, keep hitting me with a block of money every day.
I'll take your cushion. Yeah, concuss me with money.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He got ct E from getting stripper ones thrown at you.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I used to be such a bitch you in my
twenties when I used to go to the strip club.
I remember like it was the stripper. Ain't like I
used to ball up the ones.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Trying to get beat up. You know, the stripper is
a jump your eyes.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I know, I almost got beat up in there one time.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
All right, Pete l Royce Laris strip club.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It was it wasn't even l Royce, it was what
was that one that was off for Forest Drive? Oh liquids?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh yeah, I was way back with I remember liquids.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
They used to be so lit back in the day.
They just kilty the life. I think niggas was just
nakking too much money down there, Like Columbia used to
be like the hub for all entertainment. Like people used
to be driving up from everywhere just to go to
the strip clubs and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Cumbia, right, and now it's just did not There was
a restaurant in Columbia. Somebody was getting their booty eight
in the restaurant and it was a video going around
of someone getting They asked a in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Girl. It was a bistro here a club and our
bar and bistro and this guy who was allegedly actually
a gay guy. I don't know how you ended up
slipping and eating Kouchi on film Like this is recent,
so what is going on with? People were just really
living in Babylon, y'all. Because look, let's just go ahead
and get the stupid internet NWDS. Right, So why is
(04:53):
there a guy in Atlanta who they actually found him?
So the video I sat earlier today, it was just
like the victims teak and she's a doctor. I forgot what,
maybe a psychologist or something like that. But anyway, she
was at Whole Foods in Shanley Tucker Tucker in Atlanta,
and she says she was bending over it and on
(05:15):
an aisle at a Whole Foods. She said she saw
the guy kind of pretending like he was shopping, and
then all of a sudden, when she bent over to
get some shoot off the show, she felt like something
warm and wet hit her back, so she reached her
arm behind her and then she saw the Oui guey
in her hand, bodily fluids. This man had ejaculated on
(05:42):
her back and Whole food.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Could you imagine somebody skeating on your back that you
didn't ask to do it? That just this disgusting. These
men are violation of that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, so she you know, she she chased him out
the story, yelling and screaming, trying to bring as much
attention to what was going on so she can have
enough witness. Like a lot of people witnessing what had happened,
and he drove off in a Kia.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Or for focused and some shit, it hadn't been a Kia.
It sounded like some Kia activity right now.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Erica Blackman Troy Troy Cal State C A L L
I S T E. Twenty eight has been taken into custody.
He was arrested in Gwenett County in charge with sexual
battery and publican decencies and now he's currently been booked
at the Decal County Jail. There he belonged because exactly,
(06:38):
and it can't be your first time doing somehit like that.
The weird thing is, y'all Okay, do y'all remember a
couple of weeks ago there was a guy in North Carolina?
Do you remember Tam. This guy in North Carolina got
arrested for putting his face in the Leader somebody book.
Yeah target, Yeah, compeatedly doing it too. So when when
this news story with the Whole Foods and Georgia came out,
I started to look for the other story. It's a
(07:00):
piece of shit together. This is a fucking epidemic with
these men. I couldn't even find the recent story because
there are stories years after years, If y'all google man
puts his face in woman's butt, Google that and see
how many men have been arrested from all over the
country for doing this shit done.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's like they do weird.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Imagine you bending over to get a box of brown
sugar and you feel somebody knows in your ass, I'm
a squeeze. They nose with my bus cheeks. I'm gonna
just let you know now, I'm a farne on you.
That's and that's what they deserve, right in their face
because they probably have that.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
They probably want to be like, oh you are real one,
I let your number right? What's your number?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is disgusting, that's weird. What is wrong with men?
What is wrong?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You remember and do you remember a couple like last year,
so me and my best friend was out and somebody
recorded her using as this is also in Atlanta, a
guy was recording her over top uh using a restroom
and a quick trip.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, she didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Get video, like she didn't get news.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Broadcasts happens to you know other people.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, it's all you know, everybody's all ears. Everybody want
to know what happened, and they find the the person
the corporate really fast.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That's insane. Those in the booty bandit just nasty.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
But I'm gonna be honest. They all look like they
don't get pussy, all of them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
They can't possibly because they.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All look like in cels. These are the guys that
are being mean to you in the comments on social media. Yeah, okay,
be careful, ladies, carry a carry a pack with you
just in case. Ice Spice.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Put your coat and your shoes in the basket right now.
Touch your laptops off your part face ass.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, Ice Spice got a new song, give us, uh,
give me some, give me the What is it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Give me some give me give me a light?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Ah, it says Ice Spot. Give Ice Spice some light
is what this article says. Anyway, she got a new
song out sampling Sean Sean pauls Yeah, two thousand and two.
Uh hit give me the Light. Her song is give
Me a Light, and I mean it starts off cool.
She's working with her little beige booty in the back
of a car, smoking the Spliffy, and then all of
(09:37):
a sudden, she starts yelling.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yelling like tsa Atlanta Harshweld Jackson airport, bitch, you got
future their this. If this rapper shit don't work out,
you definitely have a future for TSA. She can can
do the.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Clear line, yes, because what is happening? And I feel
like I felt the same as everybody else and apparently
you did too. Right when something happens on social media,
I immediately go to the commons. Right, everybody had the
same sentiment, like, girl, why are you yelling at me?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Why are you screaming at me?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm sicking. I'm sticking to rap man, I'm gonna stick
to ron. I might start working out the R and
B girl, because my brain cells, I feel like I
lose some every time a new song come out.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I listen to High Maintenance on Apple Music, that playlist
and it's all female rap, and the women doesn't turn
into men, like all the songs sound like men with
female voices. Girl, Yeah, they talk like dudes. Now.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's very It's all a trauma response. There's no feminine
energy in the music, no more none. They like, I'm
gonna play these dudes before they play me. I'm gonna
get them before they get me. I'm just gonna get
this money and get on through like that's the attitude
with everybody, and a lot of them. All these bitches stole
in love because for some reason, in the midst of
(11:03):
being so hard, y'all always end up pregnant. Pregnant, right, see,
y'all be in lovey dove somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Some how, okay, Right, even though you're not rapping about it,
you're making babies, so you're doing something.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But we know who ain't doing nothing? WHOOPI Goldberg?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Y'all?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Why Goldberg is doing so Whopy Goldberg is actually doing
a whole lot of shit witho by Goldberg said, listen,
she lightheaded and quitted.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
She is not trying to get married ever again. So
during a recent interview on the I'd be calling him
Don Don Lemon because that's how Fox News was getting
on his ass one year but Don Lemon the Don
Lemon Show, the sixty eight year old actress and host
of the view explain why she doesn't prefer traditional relationships.
She said, I am fundamentally a selfish person, and I've
(11:57):
been excuse me, and I found that because I have
a wonderful a wonderful kid, and a son in law
and three grandkids and one great grand that I don't
have time for the for a whole lot of people
coming into my life, she shared, hit and runs are great,
and I don't mind those, but you can't spend the.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Night damn whooping, damn whoopy.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Whooping these niggas and getting them up out the house. Okay,
I don't. I don't blame her or why not you
sixty eight sixty eight?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, you can't bad kids, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So she got one kid, She has one child, but
she got a.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Kid and the grandkid and great grand She got a
whole house full of descendants, so she ain't worried about,
you know, child bearing. Now, it's just like I don't
need companionship because I have family. I guess I don't
aspire to be like that though. I always want a
man who I want to sew his dick, even at
sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Listen, she says, uh, well, bitch, wait, run that back again.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What you said? You heard me?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
She said, you have a whole line of words that
are stacked up in your head about what you are.
If you say a hit and run is where you
want to be and you don't want to be married,
she explained. The view hosts continued by explaining that after
years of reasoning with herself why she would settle down
with someone, she's surprised that she doesn't want to. She
(13:21):
has been married in divorce three times. She said, what
I didn't realize was that I figured it out. She said,
I just was surprised by the fact that I didn't
really want it. But I like the hit and run.
I like to hit and run. Actually, okay, so she's
doing a hitting and running.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What's her sign?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh, let's look that up. You know I like that
type of shit. Let's see what the hell is why
white people was born? I bet you just bit you
this whole Gemini.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Gemini, Gemini energy. Let's worry aries, Let's see, let's see.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
No, she ain't a Gemini, and don't think she's a Gemini.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Libra faces girl.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
This is a scorpio. This is.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
No way.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes, she's a scorpio.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Makes sense that birthday.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That makes a whole lot of sense. Whooping scorpios is terrible.
They're away from me. I'd be attracting scorpios dog like
the men and women like. I got some scorpio female
friends that I can't shake. And the men is like
anytime a dude hollers at me, he's a scorpio. I'm like, okay,
Deuce is my nigga.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I don't want no more of that either.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I can't do nothing with you, y'all. This past weekend
was Mother's Day. We failed to really uh to mention
that during our weekend. But yeah, but we want to
give a shout out to Anita Baker for Mother's Day
because she ruined it for a lot of mothers. Okay,
she was supposed to have a concert in Atlanta. She
(14:57):
canceled a few minutes before. You got bitches on the
Martin pissed.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Nina Beker is seven sixty seven, you know, almost eighty
years old. That lady had the gout.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
She has.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
She ate a pork loin on Friday that her daughter
made for her and she could not make it.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Can't be holding that lady. She oh older, because I
don't want her to come cuss me out. You know,
she'll cuss people out. She's older, and she might have
had the gout, y'all, she's a human being.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Don't be playing with these divas not to mention. Also,
these people like their product is their voices, and sometimes
it don't always work, especially when you've been singing your
whole life. But that is something she needs to take
into consideration and possibly go ahead and retire. Baby, Okay,
because you had your residency in Nevada in Vegas and
you kept going and you still having concerts and started
(15:45):
yelling at some people taking pictures to you a couple
weeks ago. Like bront wrote, let it go them, tickets
costs a lot, girl, I might come up there and
sing this song with you for the money I paid
for this.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Ticket, And they're gonna knock your ass right up that stage.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Gonna keep playing, and they gonna be throwing shit at
her next show.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Good.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, because you're playing with black women at this point, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Your peers, Yeah, listen, y'all. We gotta give a big
shout out to our family from Black Effects. Taylor Happy birthday.
We love you girl. Nice tea. Yeah, y'all go to
her page and wish her a happy birthday. It's at
fun size Tea. It's still there, right, No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's Taylor Made Now and her birthday is today, y'all,
So go, what's your happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
At Taylor Made It?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So y'all go, what'sh your happy birthday? We love you
a little bit, eh.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All right, so y'all we're gonna get into our main
topic for this week. We talking pimps. Y'all know, I
always be trying to figure out the psychology and some
shit like white people be doing certain things.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We're talking pimp shit and some whole shit real quick,
so y'all stay tuned. We'll be right back. And we
got a guess who's gonna be on that pimp shit
with us. What's up, y'all?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We are back, and we do have a special guest
when we talked back this week. This is my homeboy
t Resy from the Bay. Introduce yourself time.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That's your boy t Reason from Richmond, California, by the way,
the Bay Area.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Y'all know what it is, No.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well, you better find out. You go find out, that's
for sure. You're gonna figure it out before it's over with.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You've been getting high fee to uh not like us.
I feel like everybody from Cali.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I love it. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's the summer banger.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's most definitely the banger that you know that most
definitely woke, woke the country over we own so absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Do you feel like Drake is not like us? Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yes, saying no, you know, I mean the man dude
got a black father, you know, but you know, he
grew up in the Jewish household, so you know, I
don't really think he grew up around us. But you know,
you know, ship a lot of black people eat off
of them, So you know, it's all it's all how
you want to how you want to view it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So so me and is due.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We debate about a lot of shit. We don't even
talk that often. When we do talk, it'd be like
hours worth of all things that's going on in the world,
from hip hop to how niggas ain't shit, to how
black people could do better, to you know, to now,
like we just had a conversation recently about the Drake
and Kendrick Lamar situation because he sent me post Girl.
(18:36):
I'm about to say, post Malone, what the fuck glasses?
He sent me glasses Moon the space. Yeah, he sent
me the Twitter space he had open talking about the battle,
and you know, we didn't really get to actually have
a conversation about we was texting about it. But that's
my sentiments to you know, black is the culture. It's
(18:57):
not a nation of people. So if Drake at some
point identify with the black community, you are we to
say he's not black, right, But then you start doing
ship that's anti black, okay, like calling us slaves and ship. Okay,
that's what I got a problem with.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What's he calling us slaves? Or what's he calling you
know that?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
You know what the worst thing he probably did to
me he got a picture with the black face, and
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That was, like, what made you do that?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Or who?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know, why did you think that was okay?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Or who?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Okay it is you're stealing all somebody, I mean somebody
had to be you know.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Can a black person do black face?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Unfortunately?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, So if I'm put on black face right now,
would why the fun would you be doing that black
paint on my face? Yes? What if I just got
on a black mask.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Like you know, with the red lips and the white
and all that. Come on, Tammy, stop playing devils. Everything
is not for I was a fucking advocate, okay, very clear.
Listen and Charleston, they have this restaurant I won't say
the name of it. But they have Sunday Brunch.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They called it.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They call it First Service or First Sunday Brunch or whatever.
But they have the Plantation singers, old black women who
come in. You come to brunch and they singing Negro
hymns and church stuff in there, and it's mostly white
people in there. It's just yes, and they call a
(20:30):
plantation choir. I mean, I just don't want that. I
don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't I don't want to lose those Those people
who sing on the plantation were powerful. Yeah, so you
have to It's all about how you view it, because
I don't view it as a scar. I view it
as these powerful women who chose to sing in despite
of their situation, they still found a reason to sing.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
So we have to celebrate, right. That's then we can't
forget money. No, yes we can, we don't have We
can teach the past. We don't need to live there.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I don't even think nothing should ever be plantation. That
word shouldnt even be mentioned. They need to just get
rid of the word and make it disappear. Because just
when I ride plast places in the South and they
still got ship called plantations.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That just makes me like, what the.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, because my family is Middleton in South Carolina and Charleston, right,
there's Middleton Plantation. That's our family land that we no
longer own. You know what I'm saying. You would just
think that this was just some white people shit middle
Ten Plantation. But that ain't what we're here to talk
about today, y'all know we're not.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We get all exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Listen, we want to talk about the psychology of pimping.
We go away from black shit to the psychology of pimping.
Because I always want to know, like, what are the
girls that like get trains ran on them? Young ages?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Every wanting to know like what.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
No, no, no, I'm just saying I want to know the
psychology of that, and I want to know the psychology
of pimp And I feel like they are both aligned,
right because let a group of dudes run run you
you know what I'm saying, Like, I know aligned.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I know some very powerful women who like trains. They
I don't think, yeah I do, I do they do
them for free? Yeah, it's not for free, it's for entertainment.
And enjoyment. When they go on vacation, they get away
from the monotony of their lives. That are very powerful lives,
you know, successful black women to Jamaica.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
What is pimping to you? When you think pimping, what
do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I think pimping is when you're getting finessed by someone.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Okay, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like the ultimate dumb bitch story, the ultimate Listen.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I think when you walk in the car a lot
and they hike up that interest rate, that's pimping to me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all him. You have a.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Government, everybody so and we don't got no choice.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I mean, well, you know, I think that's where you
gotta turn your pimping up and you gotta make sure
you ain't getting finessed by nobody.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You understand. That's that you You You gotta fight pimping
with pimping.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, but when you fight the pimp, like the US government,
you end up in prison.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
We're behind enemy lives.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Listen, Look like I say, don't break the law. Just
been the rules, right.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I like great area ship, y'all know. I always be like,
let me get a mortgage frouby. I like them type
of niggas some smart smart you can figure out how
the financial whole church.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Pastor is most definitely.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay, y'all listen, it's leading his flo on salvation.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I know, I got a whole article and it is
like for this episode, so not about religion, hold on,
hold on. It is the link between God of the
Bible and the pimp game. That's an article I wanted
to touch on a few parts of because people definitely
be pimping from the pulpit. It is a real thing.
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A lot of people who probably used to be pimps,
right they they get into this because it's the same
concept essentially. You know what I'm saying. You get into
the minds of the people and you like a little
puppet master. Now you could be like a psychotic pimp,
the ones that be beating up, beating their holes up
and ship like that. But then you have the more
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psychologically advanced ministers could very well be pimping everybody in
the church.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And then you have the ministers that are leading their
flock to salvation and their their goal is to care
for their food.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But you got to put money in this plate to
get to the heaven.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Collection, don't have to, but they don't put money.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And nobody holds forces you to get nobody holds, nobody
holds a gun to your head. It makes you give.
Your philanthropy is your choice in the church.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That's why they said that what they want, what they
want ten percent. That's a little too high.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's a time said the Bible.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yes, absolutely wrote that.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Old ass what they say. It's the oldest perfection. So
you know, who's to say that that wasn't writing that
in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Saying, So y'all, I mean, I don't think pimping is nice.
It's like pimping like a big thing down south. I
feel like that's more of like a Midwest West Coast thing.
Like over here, people kind of manage their own vaginas.
I think, you know, I wanted to have somebody on
to talk about it that could actually maybe relate to pimping,
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because I mean, I can't because imagine me selling couchie.
I gotta get it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They're giving your money to someone else is insane. I
remember one time, and I was probably like nineteen or two.
I didn't even think I was old enough. I came
to Charlotte to go. It was like, see, I double
a weekend and I came to Charlotte and I was
at a party and I was looking real fine. This
is before you could buy ass, so mine was just
like spectacul one, right yeah. And this pimp like everybody
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kept calling him like what's up pimping and talking to
and he dressed like he was dressed like yeah, like
a pimp with a silk shirt, you know that kind
of And he kept following me around the club and
saying shit.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
He said, Ryan, sweat you, but I'm gonna sweat you.
Tell a get you, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Saying rhyme and shit to me. And I was like
literally running from this man around the club because I'm
not gonna sell it and give my money away. Please
leave me alone, sir.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Right right?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I mean nowadays, like I guess the holes they don't
need pimps no more.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Or why would a whole ever need a pimp?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Like what is I think that's the only man compatible
with a prostitute, right, every woman need companionship, So who
what other type of man is gonna be cool with
a woman going out?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
A pimp? That's it?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Like a regular dude going to work every day ain't
gonna be cool with his chick doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So they get bitches out the strip club all the time,
and then they try to make them stop stripping because
he's not cool with that. Keep wipe up the strippers.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, that's like a square. A pimp would never like
a pimp, and he gonna let her go ahead and
work and.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Do what she do.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So I just feel like the only man that's compatible
with a woman living that lifestyle is a pimp or
some mac or some type of player individual. A regular
deglar dude is not gonna be cool with a female
like that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So these guys you think they'd be like in relationships
with these women or the women think they are in a.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Certain extent, to a certain extent, I guess to me,
I feel like it depends on what type of you know,
pe is. I guess if you like a boyfriend pee,
you know what I'm saying. Though, like a boyfriend pee,
you know what I'm saying, Like you you pushing p
but your girlfriend is a prostitute or a stripper. Like
I said, you know, it's only one type a man
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that's gonna be cool with a woman living that type
of lifestyle. And that's gonna be him, So that's who
is for her.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So these two people somehow find each other, right, and
I can understand that.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
They recognize each other.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, I can understand that, and like adults, But
some of these pems they go after just like any men. Okay,
men are visual, yes, but men can also be very predatorial,
so they go after the easiest praise. So now that's
why you like America. One of the biggest, longest running
industries in America is fucking trafficking. Okay, so now you
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got kids being trafficked by these people, or even grown
ass women getting snatched up off the streets, Like, what's.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
The I don't think that's the same thing, though, Like
I feel like human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's not pimping, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But there's some women who have gotten men arrested, locked
up when they got caught, right, they end up saying
that this person moved them from all you gotta have
moved this bitch from one state to the next, and
you got some interstate shit going on, right, Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So pimping is getting a woman too willingly?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah I would say that absolutely, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, everybody
in on it, because, like I said, most holes is
just doing a thing like it's only to me. I
feel like it's only a small small amount of women
that actually really got a man. Most of them is
just moving so long. Yeah, and it's just like, yeah,
you human trafficking your damn self on only fans and
Instagram at the end of the day, so you know
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what I mean, like you pimping your own ass at
the end of the day, so that if you're.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Gonna do it, do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, Like why you need management? Why do I need
moneymac management?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I don't think women are that good and managing money.
I think y'all need help.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Would say, I'm just saying. I just think that's just
my personal opinion. I think men manage money better than.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Women oftentimes, especially our parents and our grandparents. The man
made the money, and the woman took the check from
the man, gave him a piece of it, and manage
the money.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And right, because why are you being the light that
on time?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
We could have waited an extra fifteen days on that.
Like you don't even know that though, Like why are
you putting no ship on auto pay?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Responsible?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
We ain't got too many white women out here now here.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
To be honest, there is a lot of I believe that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I believe that there's something.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So why are you interacting one? Why why would you
make why would you make the say we'd be arguing
about the same ship. We be arguing by this type
of ship. I don't even know why you're trying to
such a conversation up like that, because not really be triggered.
I am a wonderful woman, and I know a lot
of other wonderful women, you know what I'm saying, Like
Tammy maybe one of them.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I am. I am one of them very much.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
We checked into the spot to record, and the dude
at the desk ask like we all acting like we
don't cook because Tammy says she got her little factor meals.
I mean, just because you do factor meals, that doesn't
mean she don't know how to cook.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Swim down. Life is very busy factor So yes, yeah,
but we know.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But why we want to boil boil women down to
just even just cooking, Like can you cook, sir? We
all hustling, we all here in the trenches together.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I can do a little something for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
So there's a lot of amazing women out here, who
aren't selling kuchis right.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And the measure of a woman's contribution isn't just food
and managing money.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
No, I'm just money.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Give me the money I think a man should put.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I think a man should be able to manage, you know,
supposed to do certain things a little better than a woman.
It ain't just all about managing money. But you know
we're not about to sit up here and act like
y'all won't blow the bag on shoes and purses.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I don't do that, don't, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I don't, Yeah, I don't. I mean, I'll give me
a bag of person here there, but I ain't gonna listen.
I shop on the real woman who I resell ship?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I buy resell ship?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Also smart right that all they have is bags and money.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
To me, I'd be like, damn, I could have bought
like a stock with this. I could have bought an
extra option contract with this. Like that's really how my
mind thinks I could have saved this. Yeah, I don't
like saving money for real, So if I'm not investing
in it, I feel like you don't make money saving money,
So you gotta be really don't, right, throw some real wealth?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well, you should like both, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But you know when when when the market crash or
I don't well, yeah, when you start trying to get
some gold or silver and some ship. But if some
ship really happened, like your money sitting in the bank
or even that paper money and your mattress is going
to be useless.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You gotta have got to make money work for you.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, you gotta put that ship somewhere. You can't just
leave it under in a shoe box or in the bank.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
If everybody started rushing to get their money from the bank,
then people be like, oh, we ain't got it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So tell us about the first you pimped girl.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I ain't never in my life pimped the girl never, all.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right, tell us the story about that time your friend
pimped a girl that time.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I mean, I don't know, like coming up in a
bay like I've always been around, like pimping and hoing,
like so we just got like you know, you know,
world renowned host strolls. You know what I'm saying, Like
Sant Pablo and East fourteenth, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if you've been in down streets like that, you gonna
see you know hol's hanging, you know what I mean? Like,
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so me coming up in the streets, I was always
a hustler. One of my friends was a was a
pee and you know he used always try to like
give me like girls if he didn't want and shit
like that.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You do.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Get tired of them and be like bro, tak her.
I'll be like bro with like a.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Real commodity, like a thing they moving around it is,
that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
So you know, yeah, so I mean just coming up
in the bay, like I always kind of like just
been around that coach. Sure, you know, I mean I
know real holes and I know niggas really like you know,
like pushing p you know.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So yeah, so tell me about these real holes. What
would make them real holes?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Like oh like like like going cross country getting money,
you know, like not just sitting in their little town
and you know, just you know, not just begging for
cash apps, like really like doing this ship like a business.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You know what I'm saying, one's own means for production.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Like this is an escort. You know what I'm saying.
This is a high level cross country.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yes, it's level of the horn. Yeah, if you're asking
for cash apps, you're not a hole. You understand you're
begging bum You need to get a life. If you
listen to baby, you need to stop asking for forty
fucking dollars. You was in a way stop that. If
you want to hold you just need to really get
out there and push that shit in s.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That's that's not a hole though, she's really a whole. Yeah, marketing, Yeah,
she's really a hole.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That's not a hole. She's just asking for money. She's
just a beggar and she's telling you her price forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
But if you just forty anyway.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
What girl is that dollars? A lot of niggas asks
me for forty.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Dollars, whole niggas, whole niggas ask for forty two.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
You know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Saying, dollars? What you're gonna do with forty dollars? But
I guess if you ask niggas for forty dollars, you
know what I'm saying, you got four hundy, I guess.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So I guess we probably should have looked into like
the different level different levels of homing, because then you
do have the escorts, which it's legal to be an escort,
you know, Utah, you could be a prostitute and do
not Utah Nevada, right, all that ship legal over legal.
Yeah yeah, but I think that in New York they
decriminalized prostitution, but it's still like you might get a
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ticket or something. And it really boils down to men
not being able to taxt pussy. They got pussy MV
because why is it illegal to sell your vagina? Like
why I can't do that? Like right now Trump is
in court because he bought some pussy in two thousand
and six, dog Like essentially he paid a bitch to
shut the fuck up, and now he's in court defending that,
(36:20):
Like why who? How is it determined? Like what's prostitution
and what isn't you know what I'm saying, because wives
could be prostitutes for their husband, Like I'm not fucking
on you unless you buy me a new car this year.
That's what's happening. Is that not prostitution?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's definitely a form of it.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, most women got a little bit of it in him.
You had to stay with him saying you have a
sex turning and then you send him this purse. Baby,
I like this person, yea, what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
You know what you own? You are to steal with
them saying you want you want to be compensated for
that that section.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Most people have a price, yes, because like we value
our vaginas and men valudate purse so well. And I
always say this, especially for the young girls. If you
out on a date with a dude and he started
talking about pussy immediately shortly thereafter start talking about money,
now everybody is uncomfortable, Like that's just how that's supposed
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to be.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
But then here's the only problem with that is because
often some of those guys is like, she, I'm ready
to pay right now. Now you gotta then.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
What man, you can decide if that's some ship you
want to get into or not, Like if your rent dude,
might as well go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, I told you how is bad? That is not
the way.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
No reason for you not to have out there, ladies,
it is to be having sex with a man and
she has passed you bills. It doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Me, No, don't have sex. But women be out.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Here having sex with people and they got like real
life financial issues.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, I agree, but don't.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That doesn't make sense to me. Like you can come
in there and your light's about to get turned off tomorrow.
You didn't ask them to put something on them lights?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Is that tricking? Is that being a whole but on
like you're asking for help, people men consider that tricking
if they don't. I get what you're saying. If you're
gonna do it for free, then get help. But if
you're gonna if you wasn't gonna do it, and you
do it just for the money, now you're a prostitutor.
What I was telling y'all, how right?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Uh? One of my ex friends, she like literally set
up a deal like she like this nigga agreed to
pay a certain amount of money for the Kucci and
it was a real transaction and she like felt some
type of way after it, but she really needed the money.
She would not have had sex with them otherwise. And
she's not a whole, right, just for that day, just
for that day, Like the nigga ended up getting murdered
(38:49):
by a year later, and not nobody knows until I
say this shit in the podcast, nobody knows who she
is that sold her gucci once upon a time. But
I don't see what the problem, Like, why why are
men trying to police what women do with ava? That's
really what it balls down to. Like, I don't think
pimping should be illegal. I don't think howen should be illegal.
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I think pimping should be illegal.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Right, m just like he just living off of her, That.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Absolutely because there's some psychological, psychological manipulation going on in
order for that to happen. I feel like it's nothing
to break apart, because to break a broken bitch. So
what you've done is you saw somebody who probably has
had a history of being abused, who don't have a father,
and you meet all those maslow hierarchy of needs, and
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now you know which is just the finesse. That's when
the finest starts and now she's stuck.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That should be good households, I do.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I believe some holes come out of good house and
I believe that. Really listen, this is protudes, Yes I know,
so I swear to God I came from good home.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's this girl singing.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
A gospel choir with y'all. Yes, I used to be
singing gospel a little bit in the summertime once once
upon a time, like middle school and high school. And
this girl I will never forget her, Mama, like had
us in a group. We was going to churches, church
and all that shit. I went back home, you know,
after I got a little bit older. I went back
to Charleston and this bitch and her homegirl was in
the club with a pimp.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
But that don't just because she was on a choir
does not mean she came from a good home.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Her home wasn't broken. Her mom was like a minister,
like what that's still don't but would constitute like used.
So you think maybe she was already being abused or something.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
She could have been some type of psychologic I think.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Some holes just like to be holes. Like just like
you said, you got some homegirls who probably have PhDs
and ship and they like to go to Jamaica to
get dragged.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Are like conversation for the right, like even in the
South and the strip club like a lot of the.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Strippers really in school. They paying their college tuition.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I don't consider the strippers holes, really nah, some of
them do have to. Some of them are.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Stripping the feel you. I wouldn't say all of them.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And some of them are like that ship is the
art man you go to Magic City, the dumb bitches
be I'm like I told him, I was like, Yo,
this's a whole new generation of bitches. There's a whole
new generation of holes on these poles. These is the
old strippers daughters in here probably, like how do you
learn how to do these things? Like up on the
ceiling all that stuff. It's a real craft. And they
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should be paid for that court. Yes, that court. Yes
they should be compensated for that ship. Yeah, but but
in that environment, they got to pay tip out.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Right, they have to pay tip out. But it also
has to be like, like how do you go out
in public spaces and expose your body in that way?
Like it has to be something psychologically not right.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
We had an episode on shame. They don't have any
everybody level of shame is different. So for them, like
being naked, it could be empowering for them. You know,
everybody got on clothes. I'm here, my body look good,
I feel good. I'm on drugs like that.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
On drugs, yeah, because some people might need drugs and
alcohol to get out there and do that. I can't.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I just can't believe that somebody wants it's like the
easiest thing for some people. I think it is easy.
That's the easiest way to get notoriety. It's the easiest
way to get money, to be naked and put your
ass on internet sometimes. You know, when I first log
on the social media and I see a bitch twerking,
I'm like, yo, y'all feel whack doing this? You tworking
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and you work at T mobile, bitch, like your ass
ain't even working for reals, So why you still gotta
go to.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Work like sales?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
You feel what I'm saying, bottom line and shit, if
it make money, people go indulging.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, and you know, even in our line of work,
you know, even in the podcast space, I feel like
if we got more naked, ship would blow quicker.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
But that's easy.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Were smart, We some real smart women.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
We can use our brains, right, We got great sisters
of humor and personality or.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
That shit is easy to put your ass on the
internet and blow up, Like it's almost I don't know,
It's like the prisoners is the prisoners is running the prison.
That's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
And also, my daddy's still alive, So is that the
only reason why it hot?
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Also not the only reason.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I respect him.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Too old for that, ship, I'm just I'm too old
for that. Like, what are we doing. Like maybe if
I was in my twenties, I would have a little
bit less shame. But I feel like the older you get,
like you realize, like, but what are you doing right?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
So I'm not trying to compete with that type of lifestyle.
I can't compete with that shit. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I had a friend, so we met in Europe when
I was living in Europe, and he was in the
military at the time, and then he got out. He
went to Vegas with the military and then got out
in Vegas and he started pimping and he was right,
it was just.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
The right crowd.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Hispanic girl. He had an Asian girl, and he was like, tam,
I just need a black girl.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I need one.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And then he was like, come to Vegas. I'll change
your life all the money you could ever And he's like,
and you want this is what he said to me.
I will not make you fuck black men, just Asian
men from Asia. They won't even be American.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
They'll be overseas, overseas count.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
And he was like, and I promise you, I'll change
your life. Your whole lifestyle is change. You'll have all
the money you ever wanted. And I was I was.
I was like, now, what would make you think? He's like,
I know how you like money. I was like, okay,
I love money. I love money, but I ain't.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
But he's telling like he to be getting that bag.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Okay, they did well, Like I would be watching the
story like damn, this bitch got her and you would
never know g wagon. Yeah that's I just could never.
I could never.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
So basically, he like curates, like the the he puts
together the business. He facilitates the meetings for her and
whoever else, or the women and whoever else. But yeah,
I would be offenditive if a dude like what about me?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Make you think that I want to sell my body.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Ship like that? There's two strikes for you, bitch. Somebody
I came at you like that. Now, let me look
at your aura. He might got a whole aura a
horror y'all know, yo, let me find out you on
we talked about costs playing a hope.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I would never have. I just have to look apparently, No.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
You got the whole energy. You just said it A
horror girls as funny as.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Hell, a horror Like really, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Be offended man, because if I'm gonna sell my kouchie,
like I really don't need no help. And I feel
like even with those girls, like once they get to
a certain status, like why y'all can't book your own people?
You know what I'm saying, Everybody, I'm pretty sure your
DMS is lit.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Listen, you can't be happy with yourself selling pussy every
day like you cannot. I just can't imagine how I
would be. I would not be able to look myself
in the mirror and like who I saw in the
mirror if I knew that I was selling my body
to get money.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, but a lot of women be just having like
bitches who wear glasses. Bitches who wear glass like prescription,
I can't see that's it. Bitches who wear prescription glasses
be the biggest holes. You know what I'm saying, How.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Did you come up with that?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Met them teachers?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Maybe them teachers, like yeah, they be like the biggest home.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Surprise type of she's got the only fans, they say,
a lot of the teachers getting fired and ship for
having only fans.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Make it thirty grandy.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah, of course they need only fans.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Need to tell these teachers more.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, they're not paying them. The girls gotta use what
they got to get what they want.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Ronnie Hoe quotes, But what was that saying?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Damn, that's my train of thought right quick?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Anyway, Yeah, we need to cut one second.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Oh stop it.
Speaker 6 (47:37):
I'm sweating, man, all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
horror show, not.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Your horror showing.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
That we're gonna be wrap We're gonna wrap up in
a minute.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
What made you change it?
Speaker 5 (48:03):
What made you change to that? Thed? What are my
friends to her? And I was like, I don't uh
think you mentioned her late one time, but you obviously
that would be the fuder part.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, alright, I got sweat, Stay move my TV.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
The record, but you can't see your hero.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
You or your home girl. You remember how bad her
back was?
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Sweating?
Speaker 5 (48:34):
Oh, he said, it ain't that depends in my life.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I don't know. That ain't the type of shit you
wanna attach to your name. You know what I'm saying.
The record, I don't know, be playing that shit in
some court room or something.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Bad good?
Speaker 4 (49:08):
That be these that'd be dumb niggas sitting on camera
talking about the ship they doing out here. The drills,
and I will see how niggas do it. You know
what I'm saying. Bro, You're supposed to know better. You
talk about whatever, niggas, but you need to know how
to talk.
Speaker 5 (49:29):
I seen you ever seen that video? It was a
lost interview qut unquote OJ. Where you did it is
back maybe six uh huh. Anyways he was talking about
he was saying hypothetically.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, yeah see yeah see OJ is from the Bay too. Bro.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, OJ my homeboy like my my boys. I know
niggas from his projects and everything. Yeah, so o, J
know what's up? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, oh, J know what's up? Damn your little Ori
pistol sweating like that? Did I make you nervous? Intimid
just a little bit good? You know what I'm saying.
I gotta make sure I do that woman sitting next
to me. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
All right? Back to it?
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, I didn't cut it down.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
What we need. We need a hole on like we
had a hole on a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Which one Laila redkicks.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Okay, but she wasn't talking about just being a hole.
She was talking about her.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
When she was a porn started the one she's a
rapper in the ties to not ship going on Chicago, Chicago.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, I'm talking about like.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
A real right off the truck.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
But we had one your homegirl.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
She's a porn star. There's a there's levels to this.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Ship stars are real prostitute stoff some of them are
really yeah, some are.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
But how is how is okay? Now that that's the
thing we got to get into. Why is prostitution illegal?
But making porn isn't illegal. It's still an exchange of money.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Like why is sex?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, like why is that not illegal? M that's a
good because men are getting paid. I mean it ain't.
No female producers a pinky process.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Prostitution don't really carry a crazy charge. I don't really
think holes go to jail too often, no way you
feel me. And when they do get locked up, they
charge it for trespassing.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
The buildings, that's.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
What the charge is, or something.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
When they get caught up in a casine, know or
you know, they moving around the casino too much.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
That's the charge.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Truspassing you know, So, I mean ship So I would
say that you know, it's not a serious charge. I
would think you know, like you know, pimping or like
some pimping and panderin or some human trafficking charge is
that's going to be a serious charge.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Right, So do you you know they'd be trying to
lock everybody up. So do you think that some of
those situations they are now getting the pimps, finding the
pimps and then creating these trumped up charges most.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Definitely, yeah, yeah, because at the end of the day,
like who you think these whole number one clientele is,
these white men, even the congressmen and the politicians buy
more pussy than the Lord allowed.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
A lot of these famous madams end up dead because
they books be thick for sure, Okay, full of people,
because I mean it's it's the number one commodity. It
actually moves quicker than cocaine could chi Coutchie does. But y'all,
I be on this app call medium and they just have.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
All yeah should like me. I like the little shit
sent me for sure.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
This is the article that came up for me when
I was looking, like looking for pimp shit. You know
how pimping in the church is kind of similar to
like pimping pimps, much like those with power and many
religious organizations are skilled at identifying and exploiting an individual's vulnerabilities,
such as low self esteem, financial insecurity, or lack of
(53:30):
social support. They use a variety of tactics to win
them over keep that person dependent and in line with
their influence, including a verbal abuse, threats and physical violence,
and financial control. We see that in the churches, especially
with these young preachers. Like what what is happening on
social media with these young preachers? This is just straight
(53:53):
pimp shit.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
I don't think that's all like most preachers. I think
there are some preachers who like align with that, but
I think a lot of the preachers that exist today
do have a righteous calling like cleft flow dollar.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
T snakes people.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Please, you know what, listen, Please bleep that out. Don't
take that all the way out.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Forgive me Father.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
So it says both the God of the Bible and
pimps use psychological manipulation to control and influence people. In
the case of the God, I don't know why they're
saying God of the Bible, but it makes it makes
sense to me. But I don't know, you know, people listening.
This manipulation is often done through fear. Believers are taught
that if they do not follow God's commands, they will
(54:47):
be punished or destroyed. That's Deuteronomy six fifteen. Free will
isn't much of a thing if you are also being
threatened or cohorced, depending on what personal choices you make.
Is it the same way it isn't much of a
ways to not have a robber, uh, to not give
a robber your money when being held at gunpoint, even
though you have the free will to do so. In
(55:08):
this instance. Pimps also use very similar fair tactics to
control and influence their prostitutes.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
I mean, you still have free will under Christianity and religion.
You can choose not to follow it. And there's nobody
that's going to do anything physically to you on this
round necessarily.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
But see that's the thing they are and fear of
what's going to happen on the other side to them.
Right if they don't do these things today in this church,
right that God is heavy. It's the hardest pad out by.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
Agree with that makes a job with the game. And
I don't know you scaring you know, you scaring the
you know the the you know, all of the people
of the church that if you don't, you know, tip
every time the five times this collection play come around,
you ain't gonna have no good luck. As soon as
you hopping that bucket in the dim parking lot, it
(56:04):
is gonna break down. So you better make sure you
know you put all the money in this collection plate
because when.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
You need a bill paid, we ain't giving you nothing.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
But look at all the goodness that comes out of
it too. Like there's people who are blessed because of
how well they tie the church and how they follow God.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
I believe you do get so give.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
There's a lot of people blessed that don't go in
no church. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, I agree, they might have favor you know, I
feel like it's you know, it's all about want.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
I just wanted to add that to it. Don't be
getting pimped, y'all. Yeah, but really that's about to be
my last last. Y'all know what's your last?
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Because once you start start calling the church.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
I like I like parallels to okay, I like I
like parallels. I like to understand all things, y'all. Don't
get pimped.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Don't you sell yourself. Don't let the system, you know,
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
Call me if you need management. Ready to be a
mad The whole episode was about calling as if you
need assistant, don't call when you're mismanaging your vagina.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Hit me up at we talk back. Your own personal
email for that ship d M A person around y'all
want to go, don't send it to our business, no, man,
I just feel people need a lot of healing.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Man. I don't like uh. Like I said, ain't nothing
to break a broken bitch. So if you can't, you
can't control the mind of a strong woman in that way.
But some people that might be they like that type
of challenge. Why people may have approached you in the past,
like let me see, let me see you lik it.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Let me see how much hand be willing to go
for I ain't going.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Let me see if Tim Bam gonna hand over that
spam without the green eggs and ham.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, but you might be going at all.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
The thing is that the thing is you might be
going under different circumstances. Under different circumstances, you might be going.
If it's indirect it was a little bit more indirectly.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Let me take you on a trip. Let me take
you take you on to Dubai and next thing you know,
it's a motherfucker ping on me. No, thank you, no,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Oh that's why they be going to Dubai.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
I heard, Yeah already, I am going for it. What's
your last? Laugh? Tim la laugh lap my last last?
Just don't sell your body, guys.
Speaker 3 (58:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
I like this conversation went somewhere else, but we.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Got the church of all.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
She was like that, I don't like it at all.
Bit just you know, just do an everything where you
can look at yourself in the mirror and be happy
with who you see at the end of the day.
That's all I wanna put it. If you okay with that,
I don't you like it? I love it, baby, But
just if you can't look it and you can be honest,
because you know, oftentimes people look in the mirror and
(59:17):
ain't honest with who they who's in the mirror. So
if you can be honest with who you see and
like them, go for it.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yeah, get what you need out the game and sit
your ass down. That's all I can say. If you're
out there hustling and bustling and whatever you're doing, get
what you need and s the game.
Speaker 3 (59:36):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Okay, man, all the shit over with Actually, y'all listen.
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Speaker 2 (59:58):
Kick It Tam, y'all should I close her eyes and
say that ship because she is a tongue twisting fish
Tam Bam on Instagram, y'all follow me. I love y'all,
and I appreciate y'all for tuning in. Remember speak now.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
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This is your co host, A J. Holiday.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What's up, tam damn Hey, y'all, it's a physical tamvam.
I love y'all. I love you to aj hore you do.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm wonderful, Okay, I'm wide awake.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Bit tired, y'all.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm tired. I have a crazy ass weekend, but I
do feel a little bit tired, Auntie, like I went
out just to jump right into our weekends. I did
go out on Friday night. That was about it for
my weekend. I hung out and did some live karaoke.
Is wherever I go? I need a mic? And it
(01:02):
wasn't karaoke night and no shit like that.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I thought you was gonna say wherever I go, I'd
be a hoe.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I thought you was gonna say that. But go ahead, finish.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's your mantra, bitch, don't do it. Mantra. No wherever
I go at, I gotta fight figure out where the
mic at. So I always ask for the mic. And
as soon as I get the mic, and not everybody
want the mic, do y'all own things. You know, I
just like to be heard.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So my weekend, I'm sorry to cut you off. I
went to the strip club again. It's like Charlotteage opened
up the strip club floodgates for me, and now I
just been in the strip club again. I went to
Onyx and the hell I thought it, I know, I
didn't even know they were still open me either. I
thought it was somebody's birthday. But turn out Nigga was
about to turn itself in, so we.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Throwing up money instead of paying canteen or saving up
for I don't know, trial or something.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I don't know. I ain't know him, so it wasn't
my It was my crossings, fucking.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Them people money.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I was like, two for you, two for me,
two for you, two for me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Don't you ration in a strip affair? Oh, I'm telling
whoever the fuck Tammy was out with this past weekend.
She got all y'all fucking ones. I smelled booty juice
on it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It never made it to nobody. Booty, you never made.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It, but that money was on. Well, No, they do
be coming out with some Chris ones. I'm always scared,
like they throwing fake money in the strip club. Man,
Like y'all just be getting all these Chris stacks of
ones Usher books.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
You remember Usher was throwing all them Usher books that
value to absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I always be like, like if a nigga just threw
a whole stack out of bitch like, would she be mad?
Like if you stripping and somebody just throw a whole
block of money at you, could you get mad?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Or you just be like, I'm happy somebody thought a
whole block of money at my head right now.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You're gonna be okay with it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, keep hitting me with a block of money every day.
I'll take your cushion. Yeah, concuss me with money.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
He got ct E from getting stripper ones thrown at you.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I used to be such a bitch you in my
twenties when I used to go to the strip club.
I remember like it was the stripper. Ain't like I
used to ball up the ones.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Trying to get beat up. You know, the stripper is
a jump your eyes.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I know, I almost got beat up in there one time.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
All right, Pete l Royce Laris strip club.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It was it wasn't even l Royce, it was what
was that one that was off for Forest Drive? Oh liquids?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh yeah, I was way back with I remember liquids.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
They used to be so lit back in the day.
They just kilty the life. I think niggas was just
nakking too much money down there, Like Columbia used to
be like the hub for all entertainment. Like people used
to be driving up from everywhere just to go to
the strip clubs and.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Cumbia, right, and now it's just did not There was
a restaurant in Columbia. Somebody was getting their booty eight
in the restaurant and it was a video going around
of someone getting They asked a in the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Girl. It was a bistro here a club and our
bar and bistro and this guy who was allegedly actually
a gay guy. I don't know how you ended up
slipping and eating Kouchi on film Like this is recent,
so what is going on with? People were just really
living in Babylon, y'all. Because look, let's just go ahead
and get the stupid internet NWDS. Right, So why is
(04:53):
there a guy in Atlanta who they actually found him?
So the video I sat earlier today, it was just
like the victims teak and she's a doctor. I forgot what,
maybe a psychologist or something like that. But anyway, she
was at Whole Foods in Shanley Tucker Tucker in Atlanta,
and she says she was bending over it and on
(05:15):
an aisle at a Whole Foods. She said she saw
the guy kind of pretending like he was shopping, and
then all of a sudden, when she bent over to
get some shoot off the show, she felt like something
warm and wet hit her back, so she reached her
arm behind her and then she saw the Oui guey
in her hand, bodily fluids. This man had ejaculated on
(05:42):
her back and Whole food.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Could you imagine somebody skeating on your back that you
didn't ask to do it? That just this disgusting. These
men are violation of that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, so she you know, she she chased him out
the story, yelling and screaming, trying to bring as much
attention to what was going on so she can have
enough witness. Like a lot of people witnessing what had happened,
and he drove off in a Kia.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Or for focused and some shit, it hadn't been a Kia.
It sounded like some Kia activity right now.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Erica Blackman Troy Troy Cal State C A L L
I S T E. Twenty eight has been taken into custody.
He was arrested in Gwenett County in charge with sexual
battery and publican decencies and now he's currently been booked
at the Decal County Jail. There he belonged because exactly,
(06:38):
and it can't be your first time doing somehit like that.
The weird thing is, y'all Okay, do y'all remember a
couple of weeks ago there was a guy in North Carolina?
Do you remember Tam. This guy in North Carolina got
arrested for putting his face in the Leader somebody book.
Yeah target, Yeah, compeatedly doing it too. So when when
this news story with the Whole Foods and Georgia came out,
I started to look for the other story. It's a
(07:00):
piece of shit together. This is a fucking epidemic with
these men. I couldn't even find the recent story because
there are stories years after years, If y'all google man
puts his face in woman's butt, Google that and see
how many men have been arrested from all over the
country for doing this shit done.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's like they do weird.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Imagine you bending over to get a box of brown
sugar and you feel somebody knows in your ass, I'm
a squeeze. They nose with my bus cheeks. I'm gonna
just let you know now, I'm a farne on you.
That's and that's what they deserve, right in their face
because they probably have that.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
They probably want to be like, oh you are real one,
I let your number right? What's your number?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is disgusting, that's weird. What is wrong with men?
What is wrong?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Man?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
You remember and do you remember a couple like last year,
so me and my best friend was out and somebody
recorded her using as this is also in Atlanta, a
guy was recording her over top uh using a restroom
and a quick trip.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, she didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Get video, like she didn't get news.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Broadcasts happens to you know other people.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, it's all you know, everybody's all ears. Everybody want
to know what happened, and they find the the person
the corporate really fast.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That's insane. Those in the booty bandit just nasty.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
But I'm gonna be honest. They all look like they
don't get pussy, all of them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
They can't possibly because they.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All look like in cels. These are the guys that
are being mean to you in the comments on social media. Yeah, okay,
be careful, ladies, carry a carry a pack with you
just in case. Ice Spice.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Put your coat and your shoes in the basket right now.
Touch your laptops off your part face ass.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, Ice Spice got a new song, give us, uh,
give me some, give me the What is it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Give me some give me give me a light?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Ah, it says Ice Spot. Give Ice Spice some light
is what this article says. Anyway, she got a new
song out sampling Sean Sean pauls Yeah, two thousand and two.
Uh hit give me the Light. Her song is give
Me a Light, and I mean it starts off cool.
She's working with her little beige booty in the back
of a car, smoking the Spliffy, and then all of
(09:37):
a sudden, she starts yelling.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yelling like tsa Atlanta Harshweld Jackson airport, bitch, you got
future their this. If this rapper shit don't work out,
you definitely have a future for TSA. She can can
do the.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Clear line, yes, because what is happening? And I feel
like I felt the same as everybody else and apparently
you did too. Right when something happens on social media,
I immediately go to the commons. Right, everybody had the
same sentiment, like, girl, why are you yelling at me?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Why are you screaming at me?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'm sicking. I'm sticking to rap man, I'm gonna stick
to ron. I might start working out the R and
B girl, because my brain cells, I feel like I
lose some every time a new song come out.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I listen to High Maintenance on Apple Music, that playlist
and it's all female rap, and the women doesn't turn
into men, like all the songs sound like men with
female voices. Girl, Yeah, they talk like dudes. Now.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's very It's all a trauma response. There's no feminine
energy in the music, no more none. They like, I'm
gonna play these dudes before they play me. I'm gonna
get them before they get me. I'm just gonna get
this money and get on through like that's the attitude
with everybody, and a lot of them. All these bitches stole
in love because for some reason, in the midst of
(11:03):
being so hard, y'all always end up pregnant. Pregnant, right, see,
y'all be in lovey dove somewhere.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Some how, okay, Right, even though you're not rapping about it,
you're making babies, so you're doing something.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
But we know who ain't doing nothing? WHOOPI Goldberg?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Y'all?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Why Goldberg is doing so Whopy Goldberg is actually doing
a whole lot of shit witho by Goldberg said, listen,
she lightheaded and quitted.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
She is not trying to get married ever again. So
during a recent interview on the I'd be calling him
Don Don Lemon because that's how Fox News was getting
on his ass one year but Don Lemon the Don
Lemon Show, the sixty eight year old actress and host
of the view explain why she doesn't prefer traditional relationships.
She said, I am fundamentally a selfish person, and I've
(11:57):
been excuse me, and I found that because I have
a wonderful a wonderful kid, and a son in law
and three grandkids and one great grand that I don't
have time for the for a whole lot of people
coming into my life, she shared, hit and runs are great,
and I don't mind those, but you can't spend the.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Night damn whooping, damn whoopy.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Whooping these niggas and getting them up out the house. Okay,
I don't. I don't blame her or why not you
sixty eight sixty eight?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, you can't bad kids, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
So she got one kid, She has one child, but
she got a.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Kid and the grandkid and great grand She got a
whole house full of descendants, so she ain't worried about,
you know, child bearing. Now, it's just like I don't
need companionship because I have family. I guess I don't
aspire to be like that though. I always want a
man who I want to sew his dick, even at
sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Listen, she says, uh, well, bitch, wait, run that back again.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What you said? You heard me?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
She said, you have a whole line of words that
are stacked up in your head about what you are.
If you say a hit and run is where you
want to be and you don't want to be married,
she explained. The view hosts continued by explaining that after
years of reasoning with herself why she would settle down
with someone, she's surprised that she doesn't want to. She
(13:21):
has been married in divorce three times. She said, what
I didn't realize was that I figured it out. She said,
I just was surprised by the fact that I didn't
really want it. But I like the hit and run.
I like to hit and run. Actually, okay, so she's
doing a hitting and running.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
What's her sign?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh, let's look that up. You know I like that
type of shit. Let's see what the hell is why
white people was born? I bet you just bit you
this whole Gemini.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Gemini, Gemini energy. Let's worry aries, Let's see, let's see.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
No, she ain't a Gemini, and don't think she's a Gemini.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Libra faces girl.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
This is a scorpio. This is.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
No way.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes, she's a scorpio.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Makes sense that birthday.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
That makes a whole lot of sense. Whooping scorpios is terrible.
They're away from me. I'd be attracting scorpios dog like
the men and women like. I got some scorpio female
friends that I can't shake. And the men is like
anytime a dude hollers at me, he's a scorpio. I'm like, okay,
Deuce is my nigga.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I don't want no more of that either.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I can't do nothing with you, y'all. This past weekend
was Mother's Day. We failed to really uh to mention
that during our weekend. But yeah, but we want to
give a shout out to Anita Baker for Mother's Day
because she ruined it for a lot of mothers. Okay,
she was supposed to have a concert in Atlanta. She
(14:57):
canceled a few minutes before. You got bitches on the
Martin pissed.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Nina Beker is seven sixty seven, you know, almost eighty
years old. That lady had the gout.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
She has.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
She ate a pork loin on Friday that her daughter
made for her and she could not make it.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Y'all.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Can't be holding that lady. She oh older, because I
don't want her to come cuss me out. You know,
she'll cuss people out. She's older, and she might have
had the gout, y'all, she's a human being.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Don't be playing with these divas not to mention. Also,
these people like their product is their voices, and sometimes
it don't always work, especially when you've been singing your
whole life. But that is something she needs to take
into consideration and possibly go ahead and retire. Baby, Okay,
because you had your residency in Nevada in Vegas and
you kept going and you still having concerts and started
(15:45):
yelling at some people taking pictures to you a couple
weeks ago. Like bront wrote, let it go them, tickets
costs a lot, girl, I might come up there and
sing this song with you for the money I paid
for this.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Ticket, And they're gonna knock your ass right up that stage.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Gonna keep playing, and they gonna be throwing shit at
her next show.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Good.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, because you're playing with black women at this point, right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Your peers, Yeah, listen, y'all. We gotta give a big
shout out to our family from Black Effects. Taylor Happy birthday.
We love you girl. Nice tea. Yeah, y'all go to
her page and wish her a happy birthday. It's at
fun size Tea. It's still there, right, No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's Taylor Made Now and her birthday is today, y'all,
So go, what's your happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
At Taylor Made It?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So y'all go, what'sh your happy birthday? We love you
a little bit, eh.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All right, so y'all we're gonna get into our main
topic for this week. We talking pimps. Y'all know, I
always be trying to figure out the psychology and some
shit like white people be doing certain things.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We're talking pimp shit and some whole shit real quick,
so y'all stay tuned. We'll be right back. And we
got a guess who's gonna be on that pimp shit
with us. What's up, y'all?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We are back, and we do have a special guest
when we talked back this week. This is my homeboy
t Resy from the Bay. Introduce yourself time.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
That's your boy t Reason from Richmond, California, by the way,
the Bay Area.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Y'all know what it is, No.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Well, you better find out. You go find out, that's
for sure. You're gonna figure it out before it's over with.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You've been getting high fee to uh not like us.
I feel like everybody from Cali.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I love it. Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's the summer banger.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's most definitely the banger that you know that most
definitely woke, woke the country over we own so absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Do you feel like Drake is not like us? Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yes, saying no, you know, I mean the man dude
got a black father, you know, but you know, he
grew up in the Jewish household, so you know, I
don't really think he grew up around us. But you know,
you know, ship a lot of black people eat off
of them, So you know, it's all it's all how
you want to how you want to view it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So so me and is due.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We debate about a lot of shit. We don't even
talk that often. When we do talk, it'd be like
hours worth of all things that's going on in the world,
from hip hop to how niggas ain't shit, to how
black people could do better, to you know, to now,
like we just had a conversation recently about the Drake
and Kendrick Lamar situation because he sent me post Girl.
(18:36):
I'm about to say, post Malone, what the fuck glasses?
He sent me glasses Moon the space. Yeah, he sent
me the Twitter space he had open talking about the battle,
and you know, we didn't really get to actually have
a conversation about we was texting about it. But that's
my sentiments to you know, black is the culture. It's
(18:57):
not a nation of people. So if Drake at some
point identify with the black community, you are we to
say he's not black, right, But then you start doing
ship that's anti black, okay, like calling us slaves and ship. Okay,
that's what I got a problem with.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
What's he calling us slaves? Or what's he calling you
know that?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
You know what the worst thing he probably did to
me he got a picture with the black face, and
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
That was, like, what made you do that?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Or who?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know, why did you think that was okay?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Or who?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Okay it is you're stealing all somebody, I mean somebody
had to be you know.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Can a black person do black face?
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Unfortunately?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yeah, So if I'm put on black face right now,
would why the fun would you be doing that black
paint on my face? Yes? What if I just got
on a black mask.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Like you know, with the red lips and the white
and all that. Come on, Tammy, stop playing devils. Everything
is not for I was a fucking advocate, okay, very clear.
Listen and Charleston, they have this restaurant I won't say
the name of it. But they have Sunday Brunch.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They called it.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
They call it First Service or First Sunday Brunch or whatever.
But they have the Plantation singers, old black women who
come in. You come to brunch and they singing Negro
hymns and church stuff in there, and it's mostly white
people in there. It's just yes, and they call a
(20:30):
plantation choir. I mean, I just don't want that. I
don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I don't I don't want to lose those Those people
who sing on the plantation were powerful. Yeah, so you
have to It's all about how you view it, because
I don't view it as a scar. I view it
as these powerful women who chose to sing in despite
of their situation, they still found a reason to sing.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
So we have to celebrate, right. That's then we can't
forget money. No, yes we can, we don't have We
can teach the past. We don't need to live there.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I don't even think nothing should ever be plantation. That
word shouldnt even be mentioned. They need to just get
rid of the word and make it disappear. Because just
when I ride plast places in the South and they
still got ship called plantations.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
That just makes me like, what the.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, because my family is Middleton in South Carolina and Charleston, right,
there's Middleton Plantation. That's our family land that we no
longer own. You know what I'm saying. You would just
think that this was just some white people shit middle
Ten Plantation. But that ain't what we're here to talk
about today, y'all know we're not.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
We get all exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Listen, we want to talk about the psychology of pimping.
We go away from black shit to the psychology of pimping.
Because I always want to know, like, what are the
girls that like get trains ran on them? Young ages?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Every wanting to know like what.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
No, no, no, I'm just saying I want to know the
psychology of that, and I want to know the psychology
of pimp And I feel like they are both aligned,
right because let a group of dudes run run you
you know what I'm saying, Like, I know aligned.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I know some very powerful women who like trains. They
I don't think, yeah I do, I do they do
them for free? Yeah, it's not for free, it's for entertainment.
And enjoyment. When they go on vacation, they get away
from the monotony of their lives. That are very powerful lives,
you know, successful black women to Jamaica.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
What is pimping to you? When you think pimping, what
do you think?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I think pimping is when you're getting finessed by someone.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Okay, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Like the ultimate dumb bitch story, the ultimate Listen.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I think when you walk in the car a lot
and they hike up that interest rate, that's pimping to me.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all him. You have a.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Government, everybody so and we don't got no choice.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I mean, well, you know, I think that's where you
gotta turn your pimping up and you gotta make sure
you ain't getting finessed by nobody.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You understand. That's that you You You gotta fight pimping
with pimping.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, but when you fight the pimp, like the US government,
you end up in prison.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
We're behind enemy lives.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Listen, Look like I say, don't break the law. Just
been the rules, right.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I like great area ship, y'all know. I always be like,
let me get a mortgage frouby. I like them type
of niggas some smart smart you can figure out how
the financial whole church.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Pastor is most definitely.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Okay, y'all listen, it's leading his flo on salvation.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I know, I got a whole article and it is
like for this episode, so not about religion, hold on,
hold on. It is the link between God of the
Bible and the pimp game. That's an article I wanted
to touch on a few parts of because people definitely
be pimping from the pulpit. It is a real thing.
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A lot of people who probably used to be pimps,
right they they get into this because it's the same
concept essentially. You know what I'm saying. You get into
the minds of the people and you like a little
puppet master. Now you could be like a psychotic pimp,
the ones that be beating up, beating their holes up
and ship like that. But then you have the more
(24:37):
psychologically advanced ministers could very well be pimping everybody in
the church.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And then you have the ministers that are leading their
flock to salvation and their their goal is to care
for their food.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But you got to put money in this plate to
get to the heaven.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Collection, don't have to, but they don't put money.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And nobody holds forces you to get nobody holds, nobody
holds a gun to your head. It makes you give.
Your philanthropy is your choice in the church.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That's why they said that what they want, what they
want ten percent. That's a little too high.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's a time said the Bible.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yes, absolutely wrote that.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Old ass what they say. It's the oldest perfection. So
you know, who's to say that that wasn't writing that
in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Saying, So y'all, I mean, I don't think pimping is nice.
It's like pimping like a big thing down south. I
feel like that's more of like a Midwest West Coast thing.
Like over here, people kind of manage their own vaginas.
I think, you know, I wanted to have somebody on
to talk about it that could actually maybe relate to pimping,
(25:48):
because I mean, I can't because imagine me selling couchie.
I gotta get it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They're giving your money to someone else is insane. I
remember one time, and I was probably like nineteen or two.
I didn't even think I was old enough. I came
to Charlotte to go. It was like, see, I double
a weekend and I came to Charlotte and I was
at a party and I was looking real fine. This
is before you could buy ass, so mine was just
like spectacul one, right yeah. And this pimp like everybody
(26:18):
kept calling him like what's up pimping and talking to
and he dressed like he was dressed like yeah, like
a pimp with a silk shirt, you know that kind
of And he kept following me around the club and
saying shit.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
He said, Ryan, sweat you, but I'm gonna sweat you.
Tell a get you, yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Saying rhyme and shit to me. And I was like
literally running from this man around the club because I'm
not gonna sell it and give my money away. Please
leave me alone, sir.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Right right?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I mean nowadays, like I guess the holes they don't
need pimps no more.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Or why would a whole ever need a pimp?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Like what is I think that's the only man compatible
with a prostitute, right, every woman need companionship, So who
what other type of man is gonna be cool with
a woman going out?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
A pimp? That's it?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Like a regular dude going to work every day ain't
gonna be cool with his chick doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So they get bitches out the strip club all the time,
and then they try to make them stop stripping because
he's not cool with that. Keep wipe up the strippers.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, that's like a square. A pimp would never like
a pimp, and he gonna let her go ahead and
work and.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Do what she do.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
So I just feel like the only man that's compatible
with a woman living that lifestyle is a pimp or
some mac or some type of player individual. A regular
deglar dude is not gonna be cool with a female
like that.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So these guys you think they'd be like in relationships
with these women or the women think they are in a.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Certain extent, to a certain extent, I guess to me,
I feel like it depends on what type of you know,
pe is. I guess if you like a boyfriend pee,
you know what I'm saying. Though, like a boyfriend pee,
you know what I'm saying, Like you you pushing p
but your girlfriend is a prostitute or a stripper. Like
I said, you know, it's only one type a man
(28:01):
that's gonna be cool with a woman living that type
of lifestyle. And that's gonna be him, So that's who
is for her.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So these two people somehow find each other, right, and
I can understand that.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
They recognize each other.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, I can understand that, and like adults, But
some of these pems they go after just like any men. Okay,
men are visual, yes, but men can also be very predatorial,
so they go after the easiest praise. So now that's
why you like America. One of the biggest, longest running
industries in America is fucking trafficking. Okay, so now you
(28:33):
got kids being trafficked by these people, or even grown
ass women getting snatched up off the streets, Like, what's.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
The I don't think that's the same thing, though, Like
I feel like human trafficking.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
That's not pimping, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
But there's some women who have gotten men arrested, locked
up when they got caught, right, they end up saying
that this person moved them from all you gotta have
moved this bitch from one state to the next, and
you got some interstate shit going on, right, Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
So pimping is getting a woman too willingly?
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah I would say that absolutely, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, everybody
in on it, because, like I said, most holes is
just doing a thing like it's only to me. I
feel like it's only a small small amount of women
that actually really got a man. Most of them is
just moving so long. Yeah, and it's just like, yeah,
you human trafficking your damn self on only fans and
Instagram at the end of the day, so you know
(29:26):
what I mean, like you pimping your own ass at
the end of the day, so that if you're.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Gonna do it, do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, Like why you need management? Why do I need
moneymac management?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I don't think women are that good and managing money.
I think y'all need help.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Would say, I'm just saying. I just think that's just
my personal opinion. I think men manage money better than.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Women oftentimes, especially our parents and our grandparents. The man
made the money, and the woman took the check from
the man, gave him a piece of it, and manage
the money.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And right, because why are you being the light that
on time?
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
We could have waited an extra fifteen days on that.
Like you don't even know that though, Like why are
you putting no ship on auto pay?
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Well?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Responsible?
Speaker 3 (30:15):
We ain't got too many white women out here now here.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
To be honest, there is a lot of I believe that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I believe that there's something.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So why are you interacting one? Why why would you
make why would you make the say we'd be arguing
about the same ship. We be arguing by this type
of ship. I don't even know why you're trying to
such a conversation up like that, because not really be triggered.
I am a wonderful woman, and I know a lot
of other wonderful women, you know what I'm saying, Like
Tammy maybe one of them.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I am. I am one of them very much.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
We checked into the spot to record, and the dude
at the desk ask like we all acting like we
don't cook because Tammy says she got her little factor meals.
I mean, just because you do factor meals, that doesn't
mean she don't know how to cook.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Swim down. Life is very busy factor So yes, yeah,
but we know.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But why we want to boil boil women down to
just even just cooking, Like can you cook, sir? We
all hustling, we all here in the trenches together.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I can do a little something for sure.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
So there's a lot of amazing women out here, who
aren't selling kuchis right.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And the measure of a woman's contribution isn't just food
and managing money.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
No, I'm just money.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Give me the money I think a man should put.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I think a man should be able to manage, you know,
supposed to do certain things a little better than a woman.
It ain't just all about managing money. But you know
we're not about to sit up here and act like
y'all won't blow the bag on shoes and purses.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I don't do that, don't, Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I don't, Yeah, I don't. I mean, I'll give me
a bag of person here there, but I ain't gonna listen.
I shop on the real woman who I resell ship?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I buy resell ship?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Also smart right that all they have is bags and money.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
To me, I'd be like, damn, I could have bought
like a stock with this. I could have bought an
extra option contract with this. Like that's really how my
mind thinks I could have saved this. Yeah, I don't
like saving money for real, So if I'm not investing
in it, I feel like you don't make money saving money,
So you gotta be really don't, right, throw some real wealth?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well, you should like both, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But you know when when when the market crash or
I don't well, yeah, when you start trying to get
some gold or silver and some ship. But if some
ship really happened, like your money sitting in the bank
or even that paper money and your mattress is going
to be useless.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
You gotta have got to make money work for you.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, you gotta put that ship somewhere. You can't just
leave it under in a shoe box or in the bank.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
If everybody started rushing to get their money from the bank,
then people be like, oh, we ain't got it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So tell us about the first you pimped girl.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I ain't never in my life pimped the girl never, all.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Right, tell us the story about that time your friend
pimped a girl that time.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I mean, I don't know, like coming up in a
bay like I've always been around, like pimping and hoing,
like so we just got like you know, you know,
world renowned host strolls. You know what I'm saying, Like
Sant Pablo and East fourteenth, you know what I'm saying, Like,
if you've been in down streets like that, you gonna
see you know hol's hanging, you know what I mean? Like,
(33:35):
so me coming up in the streets, I was always
a hustler. One of my friends was a was a
pee and you know he used always try to like
give me like girls if he didn't want and shit
like that.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You do.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Get tired of them and be like bro, tak her.
I'll be like bro with like a.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Real commodity, like a thing they moving around it is,
that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
So you know, yeah, so I mean just coming up
in the bay, like I always kind of like just
been around that coach. Sure, you know, I mean I
know real holes and I know niggas really like you know,
like pushing p you know.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So yeah, so tell me about these real holes. What
would make them real holes?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Like oh like like like going cross country getting money,
you know, like not just sitting in their little town
and you know, just you know, not just begging for
cash apps, like really like doing this ship like a business.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
You know what I'm saying, one's own means for production.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Like this is an escort. You know what I'm saying.
This is a high level cross country.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yes, it's level of the horn. Yeah, if you're asking
for cash apps, you're not a hole. You understand you're
begging bum You need to get a life. If you
listen to baby, you need to stop asking for forty
fucking dollars. You was in a way stop that. If
you want to hold you just need to really get
out there and push that shit in s.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That's that's not a hole though, she's really a whole. Yeah, marketing, Yeah,
she's really a hole.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That's not a hole. She's just asking for money. She's
just a beggar and she's telling you her price forty dollars.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
But if you just forty anyway.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
What girl is that dollars? A lot of niggas asks
me for forty.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Dollars, whole niggas, whole niggas ask for forty two.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
You know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Saying, dollars? What you're gonna do with forty dollars? But
I guess if you ask niggas for forty dollars, you
know what I'm saying, you got four hundy, I guess.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
So I guess we probably should have looked into like
the different level different levels of homing, because then you
do have the escorts, which it's legal to be an escort,
you know, Utah, you could be a prostitute and do
not Utah Nevada, right, all that ship legal over legal.
Yeah yeah, but I think that in New York they
decriminalized prostitution, but it's still like you might get a
(35:59):
ticket or something. And it really boils down to men
not being able to taxt pussy. They got pussy MV
because why is it illegal to sell your vagina? Like
why I can't do that? Like right now Trump is
in court because he bought some pussy in two thousand
and six, dog Like essentially he paid a bitch to
shut the fuck up, and now he's in court defending that,
(36:20):
Like why who? How is it determined? Like what's prostitution
and what isn't you know what I'm saying, because wives
could be prostitutes for their husband, Like I'm not fucking
on you unless you buy me a new car this year.
That's what's happening. Is that not prostitution?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's definitely a form of it.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, most women got a little bit of it in him.
You had to stay with him saying you have a
sex turning and then you send him this purse. Baby,
I like this person, yea, what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
You know what you own? You are to steal with
them saying you want you want to be compensated for
that that section.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Most people have a price, yes, because like we value
our vaginas and men valudate purse so well. And I
always say this, especially for the young girls. If you
out on a date with a dude and he started
talking about pussy immediately shortly thereafter start talking about money,
now everybody is uncomfortable, Like that's just how that's supposed
(37:20):
to be.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
But then here's the only problem with that is because
often some of those guys is like, she, I'm ready
to pay right now. Now you gotta then.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
What man, you can decide if that's some ship you
want to get into or not, Like if your rent dude,
might as well go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, I told you how is bad? That is not
the way.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
No reason for you not to have out there, ladies,
it is to be having sex with a man and
she has passed you bills. It doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Me, No, don't have sex. But women be out.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Here having sex with people and they got like real
life financial issues.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, I agree, but don't.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That doesn't make sense to me. Like you can come
in there and your light's about to get turned off tomorrow.
You didn't ask them to put something on them lights?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Is that tricking? Is that being a whole but on
like you're asking for help, people men consider that tricking
if they don't. I get what you're saying. If you're
gonna do it for free, then get help. But if
you're gonna if you wasn't gonna do it, and you
do it just for the money, now you're a prostitutor.
What I was telling y'all, how right?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Uh? One of my ex friends, she like literally set
up a deal like she like this nigga agreed to
pay a certain amount of money for the Kucci and
it was a real transaction and she like felt some
type of way after it, but she really needed the money.
She would not have had sex with them otherwise. And
she's not a whole, right, just for that day, just
for that day, Like the nigga ended up getting murdered
(38:49):
by a year later, and not nobody knows until I
say this shit in the podcast, nobody knows who she
is that sold her gucci once upon a time. But
I don't see what the problem, Like, why why are
men trying to police what women do with ava? That's
really what it balls down to. Like, I don't think
pimping should be illegal. I don't think howen should be illegal.
(39:13):
I think pimping should be illegal.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Right, m just like he just living off of her, That.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Absolutely because there's some psychological, psychological manipulation going on in
order for that to happen. I feel like it's nothing
to break apart, because to break a broken bitch. So
what you've done is you saw somebody who probably has
had a history of being abused, who don't have a father,
and you meet all those maslow hierarchy of needs, and
(39:54):
now you know which is just the finesse. That's when
the finest starts and now she's stuck.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That should be good households, I do.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I believe some holes come out of good house and
I believe that. Really listen, this is protudes, Yes I know,
so I swear to God I came from good home.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
It's this girl singing.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
A gospel choir with y'all. Yes, I used to be
singing gospel a little bit in the summertime once once
upon a time, like middle school and high school. And
this girl I will never forget her, Mama, like had
us in a group. We was going to churches, church
and all that shit. I went back home, you know,
after I got a little bit older. I went back
to Charleston and this bitch and her homegirl was in
the club with a pimp.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
But that don't just because she was on a choir
does not mean she came from a good home.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Her home wasn't broken. Her mom was like a minister,
like what that's still don't but would constitute like used.
So you think maybe she was already being abused or something.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
She could have been some type of psychologic I think.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Some holes just like to be holes. Like just like
you said, you got some homegirls who probably have PhDs
and ship and they like to go to Jamaica to
get dragged.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Are like conversation for the right, like even in the
South and the strip club like a lot of the.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Strippers really in school. They paying their college tuition.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I don't consider the strippers holes, really nah, some of
them do have to. Some of them are.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Stripping the feel you. I wouldn't say all of them.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
And some of them are like that ship is the
art man you go to Magic City, the dumb bitches
be I'm like I told him, I was like, Yo,
this's a whole new generation of bitches. There's a whole
new generation of holes on these poles. These is the
old strippers daughters in here probably, like how do you
learn how to do these things? Like up on the
ceiling all that stuff. It's a real craft. And they
(41:42):
should be paid for that court. Yes, that court. Yes
they should be compensated for that ship. Yeah, but but
in that environment, they got to pay tip out.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Right, they have to pay tip out. But it also
has to be like, like how do you go out
in public spaces and expose your body in that way?
Like it has to be something psychologically not right.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
We had an episode on shame. They don't have any
everybody level of shame is different. So for them, like
being naked, it could be empowering for them. You know,
everybody got on clothes. I'm here, my body look good,
I feel good. I'm on drugs like that.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
On drugs, yeah, because some people might need drugs and
alcohol to get out there and do that. I can't.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I just can't believe that somebody wants it's like the
easiest thing for some people. I think it is easy.
That's the easiest way to get notoriety. It's the easiest
way to get money, to be naked and put your
ass on internet sometimes. You know, when I first log
on the social media and I see a bitch twerking,
I'm like, yo, y'all feel whack doing this? You tworking
(42:48):
and you work at T mobile, bitch, like your ass
ain't even working for reals, So why you still gotta
go to.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Work like sales?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
You feel what I'm saying, bottom line and shit, if
it make money, people go indulging.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, and you know, even in our line of work,
you know, even in the podcast space, I feel like
if we got more naked, ship would blow quicker.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
But that's easy.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Were smart, We some real smart women.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
We can use our brains, right, We got great sisters
of humor and personality or.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
That shit is easy to put your ass on the
internet and blow up, Like it's almost I don't know,
It's like the prisoners is the prisoners is running the prison.
That's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
And also, my daddy's still alive, So is that the
only reason why it hot?
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Also not the only reason.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I respect him.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Too old for that, ship, I'm just I'm too old
for that. Like, what are we doing. Like maybe if
I was in my twenties, I would have a little
bit less shame. But I feel like the older you get,
like you realize, like, but what are you doing right?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
So I'm not trying to compete with that type of lifestyle.
I can't compete with that shit. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I had a friend, so we met in Europe when
I was living in Europe, and he was in the
military at the time, and then he got out. He
went to Vegas with the military and then got out
in Vegas and he started pimping and he was right,
it was just.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
The right crowd.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Hispanic girl. He had an Asian girl, and he was like, tam,
I just need a black girl.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I need one.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And then he was like, come to Vegas. I'll change
your life all the money you could ever And he's like,
and you want this is what he said to me.
I will not make you fuck black men, just Asian
men from Asia. They won't even be American.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
They'll be overseas, overseas count.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
And he was like, and I promise you, I'll change
your life. Your whole lifestyle is change. You'll have all
the money you ever wanted. And I was I was.
I was like, now, what would make you think? He's like,
I know how you like money. I was like, okay,
I love money. I love money, but I ain't.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
But he's telling like he to be getting that bag.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Okay, they did well, Like I would be watching the
story like damn, this bitch got her and you would
never know g wagon. Yeah that's I just could never.
I could never.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
So basically, he like curates, like the the he puts
together the business. He facilitates the meetings for her and
whoever else, or the women and whoever else. But yeah,
I would be offenditive if a dude like what about me?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Make you think that I want to sell my body.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Ship like that? There's two strikes for you, bitch. Somebody
I came at you like that. Now, let me look
at your aura. He might got a whole aura a
horror y'all know, yo, let me find out you on
we talked about costs playing a hope.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I would never have. I just have to look apparently, No.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
You got the whole energy. You just said it A
horror girls as funny as.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Hell, a horror Like really, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Be offended man, because if I'm gonna sell my kouchie,
like I really don't need no help. And I feel
like even with those girls, like once they get to
a certain status, like why y'all can't book your own people?
You know what I'm saying, Everybody, I'm pretty sure your
DMS is lit.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Listen, you can't be happy with yourself selling pussy every
day like you cannot. I just can't imagine how I
would be. I would not be able to look myself
in the mirror and like who I saw in the
mirror if I knew that I was selling my body
to get money.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, but a lot of women be just having like
bitches who wear glasses. Bitches who wear glass like prescription,
I can't see that's it. Bitches who wear prescription glasses
be the biggest holes. You know what I'm saying, How.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Did you come up with that?
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Met them teachers?
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Maybe them teachers, like yeah, they be like the biggest home.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Surprise type of she's got the only fans, they say,
a lot of the teachers getting fired and ship for
having only fans.
Speaker 2 (47:12):
Make it thirty grandy.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Yeah, of course they need only fans.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Need to tell these teachers more.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, they're not paying them. The girls gotta use what
they got to get what they want.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Ronnie Hoe quotes, But what was that saying?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Damn, that's my train of thought right quick?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Anyway, Yeah, we need to cut one second.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Oh stop it.
Speaker 6 (47:37):
I'm sweating, man, all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
horror show, not.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Your horror showing.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
That we're gonna be wrap We're gonna wrap up in
a minute.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
What made you change it?
Speaker 5 (48:03):
What made you change to that? Thed? What are my
friends to her? And I was like, I don't uh
think you mentioned her late one time, but you obviously
that would be the fuder part.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Yeah, alright, I got sweat, Stay move my TV.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
The record, but you can't see your hero.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
You or your home girl. You remember how bad her
back was?
Speaker 2 (48:31):
Sweating?
Speaker 5 (48:34):
Oh, he said, it ain't that depends in my life.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
I don't know. That ain't the type of shit you
wanna attach to your name. You know what I'm saying.
The record, I don't know, be playing that shit in
some court room or something.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Bad good?
Speaker 4 (49:08):
That be these that'd be dumb niggas sitting on camera
talking about the ship they doing out here. The drills,
and I will see how niggas do it. You know
what I'm saying. Bro, You're supposed to know better. You
talk about whatever, niggas, but you need to know how
to talk.
Speaker 5 (49:29):
I seen you ever seen that video? It was a
lost interview qut unquote OJ. Where you did it is
back maybe six uh huh. Anyways he was talking about
he was saying hypothetically.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, yeah see yeah see OJ is from the Bay too. Bro.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, OJ my homeboy like my my boys. I know
niggas from his projects and everything. Yeah, so o, J
know what's up? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, oh, J know what's up? Damn your little Ori
pistol sweating like that? Did I make you nervous? Intimid
just a little bit good? You know what I'm saying.
I gotta make sure I do that woman sitting next
to me. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (50:27):
All right? Back to it?
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, I didn't cut it down.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
What we need. We need a hole on like we
had a hole on a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
Which one Laila redkicks.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Okay, but she wasn't talking about just being a hole.
She was talking about her.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
When she was a porn started the one she's a
rapper in the ties to not ship going on Chicago, Chicago.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, I'm talking about like.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
A real right off the truck.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
But we had one your homegirl.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
She's a porn star. There's a there's levels to this.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Ship stars are real prostitute stoff some of them are
really yeah, some are.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
But how is how is okay? Now that that's the
thing we got to get into. Why is prostitution illegal?
But making porn isn't illegal. It's still an exchange of money.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Like why is sex?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, like why is that not illegal? M that's a
good because men are getting paid. I mean it ain't.
No female producers a pinky process.
Speaker 4 (51:41):
Prostitution don't really carry a crazy charge. I don't really
think holes go to jail too often, no way you
feel me. And when they do get locked up, they
charge it for trespassing.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
The buildings, that's.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
What the charge is, or something.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
When they get caught up in a casine, know or
you know, they moving around the casino too much.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
That's the charge.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Truspassing you know, So, I mean ship So I would
say that you know, it's not a serious charge. I
would think you know, like you know, pimping or like
some pimping and panderin or some human trafficking charge is
that's going to be a serious charge.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Right, So do you you know they'd be trying to
lock everybody up. So do you think that some of
those situations they are now getting the pimps, finding the
pimps and then creating these trumped up charges most.
Speaker 4 (52:29):
Definitely, yeah, yeah, because at the end of the day,
like who you think these whole number one clientele is,
these white men, even the congressmen and the politicians buy
more pussy than the Lord allowed.
Speaker 1 (52:41):
A lot of these famous madams end up dead because
they books be thick for sure, Okay, full of people,
because I mean it's it's the number one commodity. It
actually moves quicker than cocaine could chi Coutchie does. But y'all,
I be on this app call medium and they just have.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
All yeah should like me. I like the little shit
sent me for sure.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
This is the article that came up for me when
I was looking, like looking for pimp shit. You know
how pimping in the church is kind of similar to
like pimping pimps, much like those with power and many
religious organizations are skilled at identifying and exploiting an individual's vulnerabilities,
such as low self esteem, financial insecurity, or lack of
(53:30):
social support. They use a variety of tactics to win
them over keep that person dependent and in line with
their influence, including a verbal abuse, threats and physical violence,
and financial control. We see that in the churches, especially
with these young preachers. Like what what is happening on
social media with these young preachers? This is just straight
(53:53):
pimp shit.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
I don't think that's all like most preachers. I think
there are some preachers who like align with that, but
I think a lot of the preachers that exist today
do have a righteous calling like cleft flow dollar.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
T snakes people.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Please, you know what, listen, Please bleep that out. Don't
take that all the way out.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Forgive me Father.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
So it says both the God of the Bible and
pimps use psychological manipulation to control and influence people. In
the case of the God, I don't know why they're
saying God of the Bible, but it makes it makes
sense to me. But I don't know, you know, people listening.
This manipulation is often done through fear. Believers are taught
that if they do not follow God's commands, they will
(54:47):
be punished or destroyed. That's Deuteronomy six fifteen. Free will
isn't much of a thing if you are also being
threatened or cohorced, depending on what personal choices you make.
Is it the same way it isn't much of a
ways to not have a robber, uh, to not give
a robber your money when being held at gunpoint, even
though you have the free will to do so. In
(55:08):
this instance. Pimps also use very similar fair tactics to
control and influence their prostitutes.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
I mean, you still have free will under Christianity and religion.
You can choose not to follow it. And there's nobody
that's going to do anything physically to you on this
round necessarily.
Speaker 1 (55:27):
But see that's the thing they are and fear of
what's going to happen on the other side to them.
Right if they don't do these things today in this church,
right that God is heavy. It's the hardest pad out by.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
Agree with that makes a job with the game. And
I don't know you scaring you know, you scaring the
you know the the you know, all of the people
of the church that if you don't, you know, tip
every time the five times this collection play come around,
you ain't gonna have no good luck. As soon as
you hopping that bucket in the dim parking lot, it
(56:04):
is gonna break down. So you better make sure you
know you put all the money in this collection plate
because when.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
You need a bill paid, we ain't giving you nothing.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
But look at all the goodness that comes out of
it too. Like there's people who are blessed because of
how well they tie the church and how they follow God.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
I believe you do get so give.
Speaker 3 (56:24):
There's a lot of people blessed that don't go in
no church. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Yeah, I agree, they might have favor you know, I
feel like it's you know, it's all about want.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
I just wanted to add that to it. Don't be
getting pimped, y'all. Yeah, but really that's about to be
my last last. Y'all know what's your last?
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Because once you start start calling the church.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
I like I like parallels to okay, I like I
like parallels. I like to understand all things, y'all. Don't
get pimped.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Don't you sell yourself. Don't let the system, you know,
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
Call me if you need management. Ready to be a
mad The whole episode was about calling as if you
need assistant, don't call when you're mismanaging your vagina.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Hit me up at we talk back. Your own personal
email for that ship d M A person around y'all
want to go, don't send it to our business, no, man,
I just feel people need a lot of healing.
Speaker 1 (57:43):
Man. I don't like uh. Like I said, ain't nothing
to break a broken bitch. So if you can't, you
can't control the mind of a strong woman in that way.
But some people that might be they like that type
of challenge. Why people may have approached you in the past,
like let me see, let me see you lik it.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Let me see how much hand be willing to go
for I ain't going.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Let me see if Tim Bam gonna hand over that
spam without the green eggs and ham.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, but you might be going at all.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
The thing is that the thing is you might be
going under different circumstances. Under different circumstances, you might be going.
If it's indirect it was a little bit more indirectly.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Let me take you on a trip. Let me take
you take you on to Dubai and next thing you know,
it's a motherfucker ping on me. No, thank you, no,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Oh that's why they be going to Dubai.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
I heard, Yeah already, I am going for it. What's
your last? Laugh? Tim la laugh lap my last last?
Just don't sell your body, guys.
Speaker 3 (58:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (58:51):
I like this conversation went somewhere else, but we.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Got the church of all.
Speaker 2 (58:56):
She was like that, I don't like it at all.
Bit just you know, just do an everything where you
can look at yourself in the mirror and be happy
with who you see at the end of the day.
That's all I wanna put it. If you okay with that,
I don't you like it? I love it, baby, But
just if you can't look it and you can be honest,
because you know, oftentimes people look in the mirror and
(59:17):
ain't honest with who they who's in the mirror. So
if you can be honest with who you see and
like them, go for it.
Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yeah, get what you need out the game and sit
your ass down. That's all I can say. If you're
out there hustling and bustling and whatever you're doing, get
what you need and s the game.
Speaker 3 (59:36):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Okay, man, all the shit over with Actually, y'all listen.
If you enjoy this episode, y'all tune in every Thursday. Ah,
God damn it. If y'all enjoyed this episode, y'all tune
in every Thursday on the Black Effect podcast, iHeartRadio, Apple,
whatever you get your podcasts at. This is your co
host A J. Holiday two point zero on instagrams.
Speaker 2 (59:58):
Kick It Tam, y'all should I close her eyes and
say that ship because she is a tongue twisting fish
Tam Bam on Instagram, y'all follow me. I love y'all,
and I appreciate y'all for tuning in. Remember speak now.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
And never hold your puss hand pussy is We talk
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