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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome back to weekend Fantasy Update. Thanks for joining us
this morning, and we're gonna bring in a guest here
in a moment, Davis Maddock. Uh. You can find him
on Twitter at Davis Maddock. He's gonna be He's been
writing a ton of content on roto experts dot com,
the NFL three sixty five package. He started oversees that
and puts out a lot of content and I wanted
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to reach out to him this week for for two reasons. One,
his Chiefs played last night. To uh, he wrote an
article on three running backs who will swing your fantasy
football league. So, first, Davis, what's going on man? How
you been? Hey, how's it going doing? Thanks for having me?
Who was what was your highlight of Lalla Paluza? You
told me you went to Lalla Palouza. So who's the
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highlight for you? Well? Highlight had to be Chargers, Gambino,
Do Donald, Glover and Kind and I got up got
a very close as it was a long and hot experience.
We're definitely worth it. Nice nice, uh, good stuff. So uh,
Chiefs played last night obviously a preseason game. There's only
so much information that you can clean from it because
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the starters aren' named long, but they look sharp to start.
I don't think the Pals are going to be a
scary team this year by any stretch of the imagination,
but picking up where they left off just a year ago.
I mean, I think my play basic takeaway was a
lot of very many teams are gonna score thirty eight
points in the preseason. So I kind of think Andy
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really had that whole teating drilled down pretty well, and
that even running that vanilla offense, you know, they still
had guys in there on the third strings. We were
ready to pick up point I was. I was pretty
impressed by the performance and pretty much from the top down.
Hey Davis, is Joe here? Thanks for joining us. So
Andy Reid making it so some noise this week talking
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about maybe Chiefs might be using the running back by committee. Uh,
first of all, do you believe him? You know some
people are thinking that maybe he's just looking to the
light of fire under Damian Williams. We saw Darwin Thompson
uh perform pretty well last night. So what do you
think about the Chiefs back field this season? So, I
think anytime a coach makes comments about like a running
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backside committee, after the starter's going out with injury for
a couple of weeks. I think it's a good way
to motivate the guys who were taking all of those
training camp snaps while the running gay like, while the
lead guys basically just taking a vacation. That Damian Williams,
he's he's hanging off on the side, he's in the
cryo chamber, and Carlos Side and Darwin Thompson Darren Williams
are out there in the you know, they're out there
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in the hundred five degree heat, full paths taking all
those reps. So I think it's just a good way
to keep the whole running back room motivated. I do
think probably that he's gonna he is going to lose
some of the early down work at times. Thompson a hide,
But I'm moved Damian down. I think like three spots
overall in my rankings. But I'm not like scared. Please say, hey, Davis,
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this is Georgia. You got three man booth here today.
Uh we're in a house draft on Friday and Ezekiel
Elliott fella one what I consider one slot today a
number five. If this wasn't money, League's about a hundreds
for a team here, major money league. Let's let's say
two D and above here. Where are you taking Elliot?
Are you afraid right now? Is what I'm asking. Are
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you worried that maybe he's not come back to Dallas
that time soon? I am. I am not worried Dallas. Dallas,
They're gonna pay him. The organization can put on you
know that the focus face right now, but they're they're
gonna pay him. If he's not there. Uh, you know,
by the week before the first game, they will reach
out to his representation and figure out what needs to
be done. I think the most reasonable way to write
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and this is just to take him fourth overall. Do
you take you take Barkley, you take Tomorrow, and you
take mccapule ahead of them because there is zero with
at risk that they hold out, and then you you
just take into account whatever risk there is for Elliott
and you just take in for Yeah, in that draft,
somebody took Levian over Zeke Elliott. I'm not on board
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with that. So was a producer are Yang he had
at Yeah, apparently I heard you think the Bears defense
in like the tenth round, So you know we're not
talking about Yeah. So all right, David, so this article
three running backs that will swing your fantasy league. You
you wrote this because these three running backs in particular,
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and they are Josh Jacobs, Aaron Jones, and Leonard for Net,
are guys that are a little bit more difficult to predict.
As you stay in here, running backs that are not
in a first rounder become a little bit more difficult
to project. There's a wider range of outcomes. So I'll
start with Josh Jacobs, he said, you say here, He's
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the one you find yourself drafting the most often. He's
the cheapest of the three. But uh, the real issues
for Jacob reaching his upside is clear. He was not
a very good prospect as he backed up third round
pick Jamian Harris at Alabama. He ran about forty time.
Plus there's all obviously questions about how good this Raiders
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offense will beat Antonio Brown. Thing aside, So give me
your thoughts really on Jacobs in general? Why are you
still drafting him the most of the three. So basically,
the reason to take Jacobs is that he was in
first round. Drastic and when a running back is dropped
in the first round, just historically speaking, that means, as
long as the guy doesn't get hurt, he's gonna be
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pretty much by far the lead running back for his
team for like the entirety of the season. And I
believe the number that was in that article that all
running backs drafting the first round have a running back
one season or better in the rookie year. And like
that alone is pretty much enough for me to take
Jacobs in the fourth round because of that offense is
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even like me average Jacobs probably gets eleven touchdown you know,
touches or something like that, and that's like that's sort
of season in the fourth ground can really swing your league,
uh Davis. She also wrote about Aaron Jones and Packers
offense has been in the news because of the uh
little things between new head coach Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers.
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What do you think Matt Lafleur Lafloor brings to this offense?
I mean, he was there for Todd Gurley's breakout season
as the offensive coordinator from the Rams. Do you think
that that, uh, he's gonna give the rock to uh
to Jones enough to you know, justify him being a
number one running back? Are you worried a little bit
about Jamal Williams taking some compation away from him. I'm
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definitely a little worried about Jamal Williams just because Aaron
Jones sound a very good pass balker. But I'm also
worried about Dexter Williams as well. Uh, there's sixth ground
draft pick, a guy who had like a really good
combine and who the team seems a lot. I get
it's already started to play well in the preseason. And
the worry with Jones is just that running back to
the Packers haven't had you know, one solid running back
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since twenty fifteen for Eddie Lacey. And I know that
the different coaching staff and you know, just a different
organizational structure. But the common trend is, of course Rodgers,
who isn't really like the thread was running back to either.
So the situation we could be looking at with Jones
is where he gets a bunch of early gotten work.
It be teen throws in the red zone, Aaron Rodgers
doesn't throw it running back. You know, he might get
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two carries, but he might only end up getting forty
targets eight touchdowns. You know, in that scenario, you're pretty
bummed out that you drafted him. M hm. Tavish. All right,
we'll talk about the other problem here, Ezekie Elliott. I
agree with you why I'm still drafting. I mentioned I
drafted him fifth overall, I have OpEd the problem with that.
How about Antonio Brown? I mean, are you drafted Antonio Brown?
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He's got the helmet thing now, which is a complete joke,
the feet thing where apparently phrases his feet off. This
guy's glory hound here. I'm assuming you've dropped him somewhat.
How far have you dropped and would you personally draft him?
I dropped him a little bit, like I moved him
back on um stefarm digs and granted post. But I
didn't I already had him kind of blow. However, I
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found that he was going way too low. I higured
up from the draft Beastball Championship draft, like wow, all
that all those threads were coming out on Twitter, and
I took him I think three separate times in the
fourth round, which just felt like a very good value
to me. Okay, last guy in this article you wrote again.
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You can find Davis on Twitter at Davis Maddock, and
you can find all his work on Rhoto Experts dot com.
He's a good follow on Twitter and certainly provides a
lot of great information for your fantasy football league. So
the third guys Leonard four Net and I can understand
personally while you'd be hesitant in drafting him, but given
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the fact that they're going to run the ball so much,
if you were to stay healthy, that's where his upside lies. Right.
This may not be an efficient offense, but there's only
a really three draftable play draftable pieces on this whole
Jaguars team. It's the Jaguars defense for Net and then
D D. Westbrook. Yeah, that is that is really it.
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And I mean Tornet probably more than any other player
in fantasy football this year, can really put me in
a coffin because I just had that drafted him at all.
And if you're looking at port pan picks, I mean
we're two years in, moved from Jacksonville, leading the NFL
and rushing attempts. Baltimore probably will this here. But if
that defense plays, you know, they like if they end
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up having the best defense in the NFL, they'll just
give torn At the ball five times a game. And
if they're using in the passing game like there's definitely
some ways where Tornet has Like you know, he finishes
as the third best running back in fantasy. I'm just
not sitting from it, all right. Uh. Sticking with the
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running backs, Uh, David Montgomery Devin Singletary two rookie running backs. Uh,
you can get David Montgomery Bears running back much earlier
than Devin Singletary. Talk to me about what you think
of about their outlook. I mean, you know, Dave Montgomery
look good in his first preseason game. He's got Terriko
in there, Mike Davis. Uh, Singletary has got you know,
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the old man, Frank Gore and t J. Yeldon. I mean,
who do you think makes the biggest uh Fantasy impact
this season? Who do you want to own? Of those two?
Montgomery is a pretty tough fell for me. So the
team spends six million dollars in free agency on my
Davis Torry Collen, who would you know, by far the
most efficient player on offense last season. Uh, they only
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finished sixteenth in the NFL in yards per play, nineteens
in the NFL and pointing scored. People think their offense
is a lot better because you know, they ran a
lot of cool plays Taylor Gabriel had Google games with
the his offense, It's actually not that good. Uh, Like
I'm a converse doesn't single theory, not not a great propext.
But he's like, are you right? You can get him
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in the third team fourteen round, which just doesn't matter.
And he's got a He's got a very similar chance
of starting in the Buffalo offense that Montgomery does in
the Bears offense. I think I think the teams view
them almost the exact same way that the for whatever reason,
the market views them as markedly different players. David's to
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a little draft strategy here. Are you one of those guys?
Are you comfortable taking Travis Kelsey round one or Kiddle
and earths the end of round two, top of round three?
Do you like how your team looks when you do that? Personally?
I don't. But how do you feel about taking kiddo
in tough three rounds? I feel pretty good about taking
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Kelsey in the first round. Our projections on rotor experts
dot com having like forty two fifty points better than
Kiddle enters like they like basically in an entire tier
of his own. And you know, I'm pretty big on
zero running back dropping anyways, So starting that out with
the best tight end and fantasy football is like that,
that's a great way for your team to project betters,
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even though zero running back teams never project well. Davis, Uh,
with all your best ball again, you know, I find
him on Twitter at Davis Maddock and all of his
work on roado experts dot com. So of all your
best balls that you've done to this point, I was
tracking some of your progress, reading some of your articles
and Twitter. But now that you've gotten through a whole
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bunch more, who are the players that you find yourself
owning the most couple of guys to three guys um
a Large Jackson at quarterback, Justice Hill and Tony Collard
and Edo Smith at running back and uh uh Kenny
Stills at wide receiver are probably the guys who I
have the most, just because our our projection out of
them is like four to five round values versus what
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their e DT is nice. So Davis was looking at
the draft board of the draft that you guys did
for f A T s y Uh the other day,
and ninth round you got Kitlin Bellage from the Tolphins. Uh.
What how do you think that that that backfield shakes up.
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I mean, this could be a little value pick based
on you know what we're seeing very early with the
Bellage getting a lot of work with the first uh
first team. So, uh, what do you think about the
workload between Bellage and Kenya Drake this season? It should
probably be right like right around fifty fifties. Again, that's
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how it was in the first preseason game. Drake came
out in the first series, looks pretty good. The Lodge
came out in the second series, looks pretty good, and
then scored a touchdown. Actually got more work in the
receiving game than I thought he would as well. I
think basically they stream a very similar ADPs. I think
it should kind of be how the Tampa Bay guys
both going to tenth around most of the time. I
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kind of think that's how the Miami backfield should be viewed. Davis, Uh,
how do you feel about tak taking a quarterback? The
tight ends you're okay with? When do you take it
to a quarterck? Would you take Pat Mahomes in round two?
Would you want to wait? You look up a value
later on? There's so many quarterbacks and does that strategy change?
Jenny in a super flex league. Uh, and if she
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looked like league, yeah, you could probably like you could
take one in like the fourth or fifth round. That's
what I did in the Scott Fish Full League. But no,
in general, I'm never taking tactics my homes in the
second and third round. I mean maybe if I have
like a later pick in the fourth round and Chris
Godwin and Josh Jacobs and Brandon Coaks are all gone,
I would think about it. Or sometimes in the draft
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desk while child been hipify draft Tvis coach in the
first round, maybe I would take my homes in the
third just to set up to the back when the
general I'm not a huge fan of it. Good stuff.
Thanks for Johnnys this morning, David, and I'll tell everybody
out there you gotta follow him on Twitter at Davis Maddock,
really good articles. He is the number one Justice Hill Truther.
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I would say, Davis, I'm going to give you that
moniker You've probably talked about on more than anybody else
that I've seen. So you're in on the Ravens offense,
probably because you're gonna be running the ball so much,
very very in definitely the number one, right I hope
that's six. Yeah, So all right, thanks, I appreciate you.
Jonas this morning we'll talk to against. Okay, so all right,
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good stuff. So guys, Justice Hill, I'll let you comment both. George,
you first, Davis really just thinks that Justice Hill, who
has had a very productive collegiate career, is going to
be the guy that sort of taking over the reins
for mark ingram at some point or at least given
his a DP, will have a pretty big impact in
this Ravens rushing offense. Well, I think before we get
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too much on the Raven's office, you have to think
how much is Lamar Jackson going to run? How much
are they going to run? Period? You know last year
there that's all he did, right that Jackson can't really
throw the ball. I assume he's made some modifications there.
He's got at least better at throwing the ball down
the field, right, So that's gonna take away some running obsortunities.
We've heard different reports from from what Baltimore first was
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ten twelve times again Lamar Jackson, Well damn, that's a
lot that we put in Jackson in the car from
by week ten if they do that, but that's still
they didn't run him. That's what what he's good at here?
Well is he is? He still is running thrusting touchdowns.
You know there's one yard bunch. It's gonna be Lamar Jackson,
not Ingram because we think that's Ingles the bigger back.
That's where he would go. I like Justice Hill. I
like him a lot. I think for me though, he's
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more of a reserved guy. Let's see what happens here.
I think he's one of the handcuff, so I would
jack him more than a handcuff over Ingram. But I'm
gonna slow my role as far as think he's gonna
be the next breakout guy here. Just too much going
on there in the backfield, Gus Edwards as well, a
lot of cooks in the kitchen. Yeah yeah. Justice Hill
went in first, uh, first pick of the tenth round
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the other day in this draft. I don't know why
the heck I wasn't in this draft, but whatever, I'm
sure you guys are scared that we're gonna win the
whole thing. But nonetheless, he was the first pick of
the tenth round the other day. Justice Hill went to
Davis Mattock, who we just had on the phone, Well,
if I tell you this draft was a little PASTI
we only I only found out a day before and
Jim Jim Dayknight, like, what the hell it was? There
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was a money lead. We weren't even told. It was
like drafting tomorrow money league. Good good luck. It's like, okay,
you know, I think we had a scram to make
sure we were free for it was a long draft, man.
I think it's like, you know, for for dractly that
should have be an hour and had this thing less
than almost three hours? Was it was long, So Mike
I would take a place we all hate, you might feel.
I guess it's like I guess I'm glad it wasn't
in it. So Galina will let you comment Justice Hill
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and a couple of other things from this draft. After
the break, it's Mike, Joe and George Fantasy Sports Radio
will be right back