8/24-Hour 2: MLB Uniforms & A-Rod Needs To Go Away

Mike, George, & Joe give their critiques on the MLB Uniforms for Players Weekend and breakdown Alex Rodriguez's annoying baseball commentary. Plus, Bucs vs Browns Week 3 Pre-Season Recap and predicting when Ezekiel Elliott sign with the Cowboys. 

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Happy draft weekend. And I'll do one minor baseball topic

(02:12):
because I'm gonna set it up really quickly because I
think George might talk about it for eighteen minutes into
the next segment. I'm telling you, well, I don't care
what the topic is. I didn't mind the uniforms last
night in Major League Baseball. It was sort of the
MLB's version of color Rush, the all white, the all black,
that it's done in tandem with the nicknames. By the way,

(02:35):
are they doing it all weekend? George, Yes they are. Yeah,
so I thought so. But um so players nicknames on
the back. Last night they were all white uniforms versus
all black uniforms. The pictures were wearing black hats. I
presumably not to distract the hitters, but uh, I didn't
mind them. I never again. I never get that bent

(02:57):
out of shape about like color rush or these types
of uniforms switching it up now. I thought the NFL
got carried away when they were constantly rolling out those
throwback uniforms, namely the Steelers bumblebe uniforms. I thought they
look ridiculous. But I don't mind them mixing it up
once in a while. And this is just that first
they put a hundred sixty two games, they mainly wear

(03:18):
the same stuff, especially the Yankees. I think it's okay
to mix it up. I'm not buying those jerseys. It's
obviously what it's for, George, but I'm not buying those
So what do I care. I'm glad you know why
what it's for, because that's the only reason they do
in this It's all about money. And that's the first place,
by the way, and this is the Yankees us the
Dodgers yet last night, and you're not watching the traditional uniforms.
That is actually, that is actually a great point, because

(03:41):
those two teams should wear their regular units for at
least one game. It's it's just they don't don't care yourself.
There's a reason Major League Baseball did it this weekend.
We got the Yankees were playing with Dodgers. A lot
of eyeballs on that series, so that's absolutely why they
did it this so weekend. I'm not listening someone like
me who watches the games a lot, all the games

(04:01):
for that matter, I can't tell who's who, but he's uniformed.
It's very difficult to turn on the game. Who's up
at bat? Is that Toronto? I can't even tell, you know,
I don't know who which teams were on the white,
which teams were in the block. You know, I assume
the home team is running the white generally it's the
way it works, but not for every team, so I couldn't.
It was just it just annoyed me, annoyed me greatly

(04:22):
annoyed John Lester yesterday, as you said, he wouldn't wear
the black cap. I don't know what his reasoning was
for it, but he wouldn't wear it. Maybe because the
rest of the teammates weren't wearing it because they were
allowed to wear the white. The pictures not because, as
you said, the bull might get lost in there and
if the batter can't pick it up, maybe gets drilled
in the head, that sort of thing. That's why the
picture had to wear a different color to the cap. Uh.

(04:43):
So they end up being old. The Cubs wore their
normal blue caps blue cup caps. Uh. I don't know
what his reasoning was. I didn't read that much into it.
I imagine he's gonna say, because I want to be
looked the same as the rest of my teammates, something
like that. Well, the black cat means he's the bad guy.
I don't know, you know, like I'm probably the former,
not the ladder. How about you assume I want to
assume that. But hey, hey, I'm not done with my

(05:04):
rant yet. Okay, it's my turn. I'm gonna talking three
hours about this tomorrow with Jim Day. By the way,
it's all gonna do this rant about these uniforms. I
actually have done. But it looked like to me like
it was the battle of good versus evil, black versus right,
you know or there? So who the I think I
put on Twitter at dark side, you know versus those
who have seen the light the field of dreams, which

(05:25):
looks very similar to me with it all wearing the
white uniforms. There's an episode of Battlestar Galactica back in
the day where they looked just like those white uniforms
because they would transferred like the to a heavenist type place.
Was wow, and it brought me back to that too.
It was like, Holy God. So no, it wasn't a fan,
not a fan was colored for a second. So Glena,
tell me a how you feel. And to another thing

(05:47):
I thought of, I would like to see at some point,
especially in a series like Yankees Dodgers, to have them
both wear their home UNI's and I'll I'll set it
up for you to comment. This was something that something
that was in occurrence very often historically in college football

(06:09):
where say Alabama would play Tennessee and they both wore
their home uniforms, or U c l A played usc
and they both wear their home uniform so nobody wore
their whites. They wore their colored jerseys blue versus Trojan
maroon or whatever it was. So give me your thoughts
on that. But first, did you like the white blacks.

(06:30):
Not really, and it was almost like insulting to me
based on piggybacking on what you guys that said earlier,
because it's just the money grab, right, I mean, that's
just the's a way to sell new merchandise. And interesting
that the Yankees were wearing all black because the Yankees
are known as the evil Empire, so like taken on
what the Georgian said, there you go, so our evil

(06:58):
Canadian picture and our evil a five home runs off
the best picture in baseball. I was more annoyed that
a Rod was in the booth doing the game turned
it off. So well. The odd thing about I'm so
glad he brought that up. The odd thing about a
Rod is when he first started doing TV and he
was in the studio, he was good. And now he's

(07:19):
on broadcast and he's bad. What happened? Maybe he's just
not a color analyst. He was a guest on Danika
Patrick's podcast, which I didn't listen to, but supposedly he's
had years now of uh speaking to the therapist, which
helped him to become what he thinks is a better person.
And when I look, yeah, I've had it I've had

(07:40):
it with him. You know, I like George When when
I'm watching the game that he's doing, I mute the
volume and just the nonsense that comes out of his mouth,
and it's just just terrible, you know what. You know
what the problem is, this has always been his problem.
I'm glad he's speaking a therapist and maybe he's a
better person, and kudos to him, j LO, But you

(08:02):
know what his problem is. He doesn't know what to
stop talking. Just stop talking for a minute. Stopped when
he was a player, Stop talking to the press. You
just expound upon topics which you don't know what you're
talking about. And if you limit sometimes, by the way,
silence is golden sometimes a Rod, I don't it's an

(08:22):
ironic medium for me to say this, but sometimes you
need to know when to shut up and let the
other people talk. As one of my buddies texted me
this morning, he said, I think Cohen left for a
few innings because he knew he didn't have anything. He
couldn't get a word in, so like he didn't even
need to be there. I get it. I get that
a Rod is a star or whatever, but he's beak
becoming unpopular again, he actually somehow made a comeback into

(08:46):
where people liked him because he was good in the
studio and he was with Frank Thomas and for a
stretch their people well him, and they had that little
when he was in studio. Him and Ortis, you know,
the Yankee versus thing was fun to scotch and stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
so but hey, I hope this never happens. But with

(09:08):
the this is going off topic a little bit, but
the way him and j Lo carrying on in social media,
you know, with their relationship, God forbid they have they
break up because you know, it's just ridiculous. I mean,
it's just a Rod go away. But this part right that,
it's exactly I think you expressed what a lot of
people feel. Clearly, there are many people out there that

(09:31):
genuinely hate him. But I think a bigger part of
it is like can you can you judge? You are
one of those I can. I can never forgive him
as I was tough time with him. Uh, guys like
Ryan Braun Abrod who blamed everybody and anybody everybody but themselves.
Braun member he God, they had the FedEx guy five
because it was the example a Rod blamed everybody, the

(09:52):
Yankee doctors, cash and everybody. Oh yeah, boh yeah, I
did it. I did it, you know, and now it's
it's all everything's okay. So I can't stand these players,
I mean really can't stand. I can't stand braun A, right,
I said, as soon as he was on last night,
turned it off, and I was pete, pete off that
it didn't go I thought it was a half fitting
easually what they do, half fainting, they go away. He

(10:12):
was on forever. Yeah, you know what I mean. I
can't you can't putty the voll up. Nope, they didn't
know when to go to commercial because he can't stop talking.
So it really But but it's clearly there's a segment
of the of the population they're like George. But I
think many and I've been when initially I was in
an a Rod apologist way back in the day business,

(10:33):
before all the steroid stuff. I was an apologist. I
thought people gave him a little bit too much heat.
He obviously performed well two thousand nine World Series, YadA, YadA, YadA.
So but I think many more people are just at
this point where Joe is with a Rod, like can
you just go away, please and stop talking and infiltrating
social media. And my wife has got to talk about

(10:54):
you now because she watches a gossip show and she's
she's engaged to j Low and like, oh is in
that suite, Like no, it's a big phony. She she's
been married four times. He's he's all over the place
like it isn't a big deal. I'm glad you found romance.
I don't care, and please stop talking. Let Dave Khone talk,

(11:14):
Let Jessica Mondoz talk for a little while. He's just
I just always think, literally, that's been his biggest problem.
I think a Rod is a somebody that became massively
wealthy and was an incredible baseball player steroids or not,
but he got himself into a state whereby since he
was hanging out with famous, powerful people. Warren Buffett famously

(11:38):
friends with Warren Buffett. I don't know what that friendship
actually is like, but I think it has convinced him
that he is smarter than he is. And I don't
mean to say that in a rude way, but I
think he thinks he has a lot of important things
to say, and really, we just want to hear you
talk about baseball. You want to talk about your marriage
to j Lo. Great, happy for you. I don't care,

(12:00):
but let's just talk about baseball and stop and let
the other people talk. Make it a conversation. I just
think that's where it's gotten with him in the booth Joe. Yeah, yeah,
absolutely agree with you housand percent. And uh kind of
don't even want to talk about him anymore, right right,
and and like it's it's all gonna get cleaned out too.

(12:21):
And poor Man fest Gersion they played by play guy.
He's gonna get cleaned out. They're gonna blame Jessica Mendoza.
It's like a big I don't know what happened. I
think she's a good is good yeah yeah, but people
crap on her because the one guy screwing the whole
thing up. I just don't know what happened. I don't
know why he was good in studio and is bad

(12:43):
uh as an analyst, But I think that's obviously a
different skill set which he isn't perfecting right now anyway. Uh.
The uniforms, the uniforms, you don't like it, Uh, the
whole uniform way of having them both with their whole
you want white on white. This be it just wouldn't work.
It probably wouldn't work. Training games where they're both wearing

(13:05):
you know, the Yankees always wear their blue and spring
training and when they're at home other teams where they road,
which is their dogs, they play the Atlantic pages blue
on blue. It's like, what the hell you give me
a rest game that counts here? White on white? No, no,
I have no probably colors still, it's it's it's here
to who's who are out there? And it dug me insane. No, No,
it's not just raise or iconic at this point in opinion,

(13:29):
it's okay. It's okay, all right at the Dodgers too,
those two more than more than anybody else. That's right,
they are I would say so socks maybe, but um,
in any event, Um, I'm okay with the uniforms. But
uh so, that's it. That's our our baseball rant. Um.

(13:51):
That was good. Got on my fourteen minutes in there. Um.
It didn't mean to be an a ring, but I'm
glad it was. Well, do you guys want did you
guys watch that Sunday night game? All the Yankee red sucks?
Something night came and the one where speaking of the
broadcast where Jlo brought the cake into the broadcast. I
wasn't going to bring it up. Glen is going to

(14:11):
freak out because I was, because there was a picture
of it later. No one touched the cake, No one
had the kid was a little fake because whenever it
was I was going, no one had cake, was was
full cake. No one even had a slice. No, we
didn't look and he didn't and he didn't really want
to seem to want to be a part of it.
It's just right, super awkward at some bike's point before.

(14:33):
My wife is a huge j Lo fan, and you're right,
it has you know, they're a beautiful couple. Well who
gives a damn? Like you said, hello, has been married
and divorced what three or four times? And yeah, you
know there's there's a weird song where Weird Out makes
fun of that. There's one line where I think it's
my gossip, you know those magazine the Star magazines that

(14:54):
where he says, uh, you know, I gotta bias. I
gotta find out who j Loo was marrying this week.
You know it's a right about her. Yeah, she she's
had so many high profile relationships. I can't remember who
she's married and hasn't She was married to Mark Anthony,
famous that, David ben Affleck and Puffy. I think she
was of them. She was just she was married to
other people in the past, Like it's at least three

(15:16):
marriages in and I don't know. Come on, because we
haven't seen the personally in a while. I didn't have
a TV show, by the way, TV show like The
Shades of Blue with ra Leo. That wasn't a bad
TV show. Yeah, my wife used to watch that show.
She loved it, so I watched it was a cop show.

(15:37):
Yeahs cop show New York based on the Radiota. Okay,
I know, really Leo, So what was the tie in?
She was on it, she's starting it. Oh, I didn't know.
I didn't really watch a lot of regular TV. I
just I really don't as I'm weird like that. I
wouldn't say you missed anything, but it was right. I stopped.
My wife kept up with it. But nice city. He's

(16:00):
putting us spanking on the Dodgers, right, bring it back
to sports, walking walking Sanchez to get to d d
and it's a Grand Slam last night easily my fit player.
It didn't work out for Roberts when he made the
right move. I would have done the same thing. Um,
when the Yankees stranded those runners early, second and third,

(16:21):
there's nobody out and they didn't get the run home.
I was like, this could be a long night. But
then Judge went yard and I fell asleep. But get
all right at home, Sterling. I was listening to the
early part of the broadcast on radio and John Sterling
was raving about for you, and then I would listen
to them strand the runners and I was just like, man,
this is gonna be a long night. But Aaron Judge

(16:44):
opened the floodgates. So tend to win for the Yankees,
big win. They're coming off of four straight losses. I
think they had to come to l A and established
some sort of uh stopping of the bleeding, and last
night did it in a big way. Obviously, you'd like
to take one more of these two get a little
leg up on the Dodgers, maybe a slight psychological edge. Uh,

(17:05):
two teams that are headed towards the best record in baseball, George,
But uh, nobody thinks they're gonna win the World Series
because the Dodgers got bullpen problems and the divisional round. Yeah,
producers have the microphone open, so bad producers. Everybody in

(17:26):
the back room there Chrisma bone of the area is yeah, there,
just shut the Microsoft guys, shut the mics offt in
the control room. There we go. Let's keep it professional. Yeah, thanks, thanks,
thank you appreciate it. Just anything else you guys want
to talk about now, so you may come in on

(17:50):
the j Lo thing. So what do you think of
j Lo Bavona? A Rod needs to go away and
you know what, just go away with j Lo somewhere
and have fun, stay away from other women and the media,
and they gotta go away period. Yea, yeah, I think

(18:13):
it's I think that's zero. That's a monogamous relationship. Come on, man,
for the no way. You don't think you're gonna grow
all together? Come on, Oh they might, but there's just
no chance that you're on either side. What's the odds
on that happened? They in a big sports book on
the weekend wages next George on either side? Tip on

(18:37):
either side? Oh yeah, things wide open. There's zero chance. Chance,
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George Kurtz K you are t z So all right,
So we talked a little bit about the injuries from
last night's game. Let's get into the games a little
bit um the unexpected a Rod baseball rand I think

(21:55):
was well worth our time. We've really sorted that out
and were by the way. The fortunate part is, you know,
we're going to be subjected to it for multiple more
years at least. So uh, let's let's talk about the
games last night. George, go to you first on this one.
The the Bucks and the Browns both look pretty bad offensively,

(22:17):
and I think the first thing is that the Bucks
offensive line is bad. And I know people are hyped
up about Jamis and matching him a broke with Bruce Arians,
but if last night is even a snippet of what's
gonna happen, they're gonna have big problems. He was on
the run, He got sacked five times in the first half.
They took seven sacks overall. And even in the times

(22:38):
when Jamis wasn't getting sacked, he was overthrowing the ball
nine of nineteen. He didn't look good. He didn't look
comfortable at all, not all this fall because he's not comfortable.
But if that's the environment you're playing in, he's gonna
have to take it to another level. I don't know
if he has that. Well. First, I'm not I'm not
going to overreact with a preseason game, even week three.

(23:00):
I'm just not. No one's truly game planning. They gave
play a little bit more on game week three. But
you know they're all no one's giving wasay steak secrets here.
That being said, you don't want to get your quarterback guilt.
So there's no way Arions was thrilled about what was
going on. Uh, Cleveland was in the backfield constantly, you know,
once the name was well really able to stand in
his pocket here. But we're not gonna panick about Baker Mayfield.

(23:21):
And he was terrible to in this game. He was
to a ten of twenty six. This wasn't that wasn't
very well well played football game. I think we sort
of seeing now, as you know, the players, they want
to get this over with, you know, they want to
get the regal scene started. They've done on uh you know,
training camp for the most parts over now, so he's
he's just getting the practices, doesn't get get the season
on him. So I think some players aren't taking this
completely seriously. You know, che Higgins actually said that after

(23:43):
the game. Is a good point. George or Charde Higgins
actually said that after the game. He said he didn't
think maybe they weren't as focused. He said, maybe they
were looking towards week one. It was a moment of honesty.
Which you don't often get from NFL players, but he
was that's sort of what he said was what you're claiming,
And I think I don't blame these guys for that.
You know, it's it's spring training. We save the same

(24:03):
thing right last ten days. No one wants to play
these freaking games. You're ready to play, You ready to
this season, let's go, you know the So I think
that's what's going on. Is so I try not to
overreact with too much. You know, let's face it is
anybody dropping Baker Mayfield down their rankings all a sudden
out of the top ten because of what happened last night. No,
maybe drop a slotter too, But I don't think to
be a top five quarterback anyway. You know, Winston to

(24:23):
the quarterback too. You know, I've never had I never
had both the high plays in the quarterback one of
these and have a lot of chance to throw the
football a ton this year because Tampa has no defense,
so they'll be trailing in a lot of games. They'll
play a lot of shootouts. I think fancy By, yes,
you'll make a good quarterback, but I'm not gonna put
in my top ten. I think that's kind of silly there. So,
like I said, I don't think anything really came out
of last night that really worries me too much. You know,

(24:44):
people are panicking about Arizona last week because once again
you didn't look very good, but and I did CA
Arizon will struggle. So but they're not showing it. They're
not showing their offense. Everything's vanilla right now, they're not.
No one's showing anything until week one. So I don't
want to, I said, bottom winners. I don't want to
overreact to anything that I really singing preseason. I watched
preseason for true reasons. You know, uh, guys come back

(25:07):
from injury and battles, you know what, positional battles just
get an idea. Everything else is really you know, there's
this background fodder and I'm not gonna say I'm not good,
oh my god, and patting about Mike Evans because of
what I saw last night. So to that point, on
the positional battles, Joe, we've seen Daria Gungbawal's name come
up a fair amount as somebody that might be challenging

(25:29):
Ronald Jones, maybe even Peyton Barber. He got Andre Ellington
there he's got familiarity with Bruce Arians. How do you
sort of expect this Bucks running back corps to play out? Because, yeah,
Ronald Jones was the second round pick, but it still
seems like between being banged up and ineffective, he may
have lost some footing in the depth chart all overall. Yeah,

(25:52):
the key is is that you may have been a
second round pick, but he's not. Arians is second round pick.
And the fact that you mentioned and the familiarity with
Andrea Ellington doesn't mean that Andrea Ellington is gonna be
the RB one on this team. But I expect maybe
Barber to probably be if if this backfield is gonna

(26:12):
have a primary back, will probably be him to start.
And uh it's gonna be crucial, uh in in helping
Winston and uh in terms of his production this season,
to have at least some kind of a running game going.
But I think in the early stages it's gonna be ugly,
and uh, you know, to to George's point, Uh, I

(26:34):
think this is gonna be a team that's gonna throw
the ball a lot by necessity based on them probably
playing from behind. And uh, I agree with George in
terms of, you know, not putting too much credence on
on on what's happened. But I'll tell you one thing,
And since we're talking Bucks Browns, I'd like to see
we talked about a rod Shut the hell up? But
how about Baker Mayfield does the same thing. Because this guy, uh,

(26:59):
why is he worried about what the giants did with
Daniel Jones? I mean he first he was getting involved
with the Duke Johnson contract situation. Shut the hell up.
You have talent, but you're paid that a big target
on your back. Defensive lineman are gonna want to take
you and grond you into the ground. Just stop listening
to Oh b J. Don't worry about the Giants, worry

(27:20):
about the Browns this year. I'll say this, I do
think he was taken out of context here. I thought
the explanation made sense. I think the reporter piece together
a couple of things that made it look like he
was trash talking Daniel Jones, and I don't think he
was in this scenario. But I think both points could
be true. I think that he could be taken out

(27:41):
of context and he still just has a lot to say, George.
He's still not at a point unfortunately. I think just
think this is his personality, and I think he's gonna
step into some things at times. He'll maybe learned that
being a quarterback in the NFL, people just don't really
they want to see you be a leader in different ways.
Uh um. So I I just don't think Baker's ever

(28:03):
really gonna keep quiet. But I do think he was
taken out of context in this scenario. George, I think
you're both right. Uh. One thing, you know, I'm sure
Baker Mayfield not shy alright, not shyed all the voice
his opinion. He does need to shut up. You don't
talk about players and other teams. You just don't. I
understand this is from April or whenever it was, And I,
like you said, Mike, I do think it was taken

(28:23):
probably out of contact with It's a magazine reporter, not
someone who's trying to get a relationship with Baker, you know,
not like the reporter covers the Baker daily so that
they wouldn't do that, but a magazine reporter certainly would.
Theyre trying to make a story here. But once again,
why you even talk about Dania Jones and why would
you say anything negative at all. You just don't do that.
You know what's you had to know what's gonna get
out there? Yeah, you had to know this. Uh correct.

(28:46):
You don't talk about another man's money. You don't do it.
Jason Witney talk got some heat this week for agreeing
with that that what Jerry Jones said was funny about
the h the joke about his Zigui Elliott, even though
he didn't really comment about Zeke, but he still caught
some heat because that's once again you're sort of talking
about someone's money here. You just don't do it. You

(29:07):
know that it's business. We all know. All in the summer,
that's when the business happens. You don't talk about another
man's money. Baker, you would think would learn this. You
think people are teaching him this. I think lit. And
he's the kind of quarterback I want on my phone
my football team because I want to know. I don't
want a shy guy. I probably don't want someone's voice
dress as him either. I want somewhere in between. But

(29:27):
I'd rather have the Baker Mayfield type than the guy
who's you know, you barely whispering, you know, So, I
I don't think I don't crush him for it, But learn,
learn your lessons here. I think it would be a
really good NFL quarterback. You have to learn your lessons.
Are you gonna turn some people the wrong way? The
biggest guys, The biggest thing for the Browns. This for
me this season is how kits can manage all these personalities.

(29:50):
Joe Torrey for the Yankees was never a great manager.
He was not a good tactician at all. But he
was great at managing all the personalities. He got them
all to play and not want to kill each other,
kill him, kill the fans, kill Starring Brunner, you know,
and everything else. That's what he was good at. Usually.
He also had an unusually responsible player that he could

(30:13):
have as an anchor for all. For whatever you can
say about the end of Jeter's career as a young player,
he was extremely mature, responsible in regards to baseball, and
I don't I think those players can be a rarity.
The Patriots have it obviously, so that comes in line
with it too. But if if bake, if things don't,

(30:34):
if things go off the tracks a little bit this year,
look out, Oh it could be. It'll be a lot
of fun. It'll be a lot of fun for us
talking about him every week and may feel it'll be
a lot of fun. Isn't that for our job? We
actually want things to go off the track, right, be great.
I have a lot lot of stuff to talk about here,
but I was gonna be up with the seventy Yankees.

(30:56):
Were all Yankee fans were all at that age where
we watched this team. This is with the first phrase
came five caps because they all hated each other pretty
much over time. You know, Billy Martin was fighting. He hell,
he's fighting in the porters players, Reggie Jackson. Yeah, I mean,
uh so, uh you know Tory Tory the great jump,

(31:16):
bringing everybody together, you know, I think that's what you mentioned.
Bill Belichick goes to say they and he doesn't probably
a more authoritarian way, my way of the highway, you know,
but howd his kitchens handle that? You know, if you
can do it, I think it needs to be great.
But if you can do a solid job, well that'll
go a long way for this thinks the talents there.
But if he's uh, if the inmates are running the
asylum here, good luck and Joe that the reason kids

(31:39):
just really has this job is because he's got a
relationship with Baker, and I think they find him to
be an innovative play caller, and that remains to be seen,
but I do think there's evidence, some evidence of it. Um,
it's a much bigger job now though it just is. Yeah,
And like Georgia, I like a quarterback that exudes confidence
and uh, I don't want him to be a tid

(32:01):
guy that hides from the media in the corner of
the locker room. But at the same time, could you
put at least one or two winning seasons together before
you start acting like you know an ask? Uh? And
you're right, Kitchens does have a big job. I'm managing
all those diverse personalities. So it's gonna be a fun

(32:22):
season to watch Cleveland develop. I think everything you guys
say is fine. The Browns know who they drafted. Banker
was acting fool in college, grabbing his crotch, middle fingers,
running away from cops. It's all young guys stuff, and
you hope he grows out of it. And I don't
mind him talking a little bit of trash. I think

(32:43):
he's got to retire the Hugh Jackson stuff. And I
haven't heard anything about it in a while and we'll see, well,
we'll just see outcales because with great expectations become great responsibility.
And here we are. People are have the Browns in
the division, you know, the favorite, and win the division
against two teams that have been corner stones of the

(33:06):
a f C for a long time now in in
their division. So it's not gonna be handed to them
this year. We'll see how it goes. So, uh so
Bill's lines, we talked a little bit about the injury
stuff there. Uh but on both on in both of
these games, we have backfields that we're trying to figure out.
So Joe'll throw it back, George, I'll throw it to

(33:28):
you this time first on the Bill's backfield. Nobody's drafting
any of these guys high, So how do you expect
it to play out in the Bill's backfield? I think
the Bill has made such a mistake and not trading
Lshow McCoy when they had the chance. All right there,
they were going, no way, you should have traded for
value when you had the chances. Uh. I think McCoy

(33:50):
gets mainly because he's McCoy, you know, possibly a future
Hall of Famer. He's making the money, so we gets
the first chance to fail. Well, maybe it's a chance
to fail before they'll make that change, you know, And
I think they should make that change, all right. Can
deal him at the deadline too, you wouldn't get nothing,
because once again, if you could deal with the deadline,
I just have an uh it looks good again. Might

(34:11):
have any good season means you might want them, you know.
So I think the time of dealing was probably last year.
You know, not that he would have been, you know,
a gold mine, but they should they should have moved them.
They were going nowhere last year. They had to be
able to see that the rebuild started. The rebuild started
in earnest last year. Then they started from the beginning
at the time McDermott got there. He got him to

(34:31):
the playoffs. But they noticeably, to your point, changed the
roster around, and you knew last year was going to
be an off year. They made a mistake. I mean,
we look at this team, guys. I mean, even if
you want to believe in the running game and any
of them, and they have a budget and they have
whop whope slew young old they got everybody but Kore
you know, the Singley. I kind of like singletary and

(34:55):
if you're beling tole by the Way or a dynasty
league and you could take him later on. I'd like
the single ry as far as the traffic. But the
problem is, who's he telling the bull too, Brown Beasley.
I mean, if you're playing, you're coordinating, you're gonna stop,
You're gonna stop. Yeah, Jones trying to be naked in
the hotel rooms A uh, you know, he mistake, one

(35:18):
freaking mistake. If there's a place to be yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure I made the hotel corridor by the way.
That the problem. Just stay just stay in the room.
Got lost, got lost? Very confusing, But there's note if
if my blue is a defensive coordinated on you stopping
the run, you force you know, I want to throw

(35:41):
to any of these guys. I just don't see it.
Just don't see it. So that's my biggest issue. I
think Buffalo love their defense. I think it's a championship
caliber caliber defense, probably a top five defense. But that
offense is it's got a lot of has a lot
to prove here. I always gonna annoyed when the teams
have a young quarterback to build around the quarterback is

(36:01):
anybody you know as a young quarterback, and then you
don't surround him with any freaking talent to throat. He
has none. I mean none here. I don't think there's
a White receiver two on NFL wide receiver two on
this team. Certain that's tight end one on this team, right,
And you know it's like, what, how can you judge
if he can be the future quarterback? Yeah? We know
he can run. He's much more I ever thought he was. Yeah,

(36:23):
but we know he can run. But you keep having
him run, you can put him in the hospital. It's
a matter of time, you know. So I just annoyed
you for two years now and you have nobody to
throw to. Trey White. Cup banged up last night too,
so he came out of the game. We'll see. Keep
an eye on that. He's arguably their best defensive player.
They they have a chance. And I was just watching
a little bit last night, like they're the type of

(36:45):
defense that I think is gonna bully people. I think
they can actually be good enough to do that. But
Edmonds has got an attitude. Trey White is obviously already
really good. Um, They've got good players up and down
the line at Oliver, which is the steel of a pick,
even at nine in the first round. I think he
could be a game changing defensive player in the league.
So I think they have a chance to bully people.

(37:06):
But Joe, I want to throw it to you for
the backfield. How are you approaching this in drafts? And
what do you how do you suspected to hang out
forget keeper leagues? We all know Singletary as an asset there.
What about this year redraft? Do you want any of
these guys? McCoy is going so right right now, I
don't want any of them, to tell you, except Devin Singletary,
even even though yeah, he's probably better in a keeper league,

(37:28):
but I like him by the end of the season
to take over this backfield. I don't even know if
all for these guys are gonna be on the make
make the fifty three uh Man cut. I mean, I mean,
you know, Frank Gorelis Shaw, McCoy t j Yelden, But
Devin Singletary I like him from as a sleeper later
in draft where you can get him. I think by

(37:48):
the end I like as a player. I think what
he's given the opportunity hasn't come through like I looked
at his because he's not that kind, because he's not
that guy. I'm saying, I like j Yell and right team.
He's a guy that as the part time running back,
I think he's a guy that, Yeah, he's not I

(38:09):
I hear you, I hear you. I'm saying as a player,
I like him though. I like that they signed with Yeah,
I'd like that they signed him in Buffalo to try
to create some dynamic play to that offense. To George's point,
you don't have a lot of playmakers, but yelling in
the right role can become that guy. Fantasy not trapping
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One baseball story, One baseball story. The Atlanta Braves struck
out twenty six times last night and won a baseball game,
so fourteen in inscudos to the Mets for striking out
twenty six of the Braves and losing fifteen In MLB history,
record twenty six strikeouts in a game, and they're the
second of those five to lose. That's such a Mets stat,

(42:31):
such a Mets thinking. I know they're playing a lot better.
But that's such a Mets thing, Joe. Yeah, uh, I'm
in a home run how about that? But you're right,
that is a you know that that Mets are just
like a lovable and you can't call him losers. But
just if there's gonna be a wacky stat like that,
you're right, it's gonna be the Mets that are gonna,

(42:52):
you know, be behind it. It's just a very Mets.
It's a very Mets thing to do it just is
you know, they Graham hits a homer, strikes out thirteen
guys and nobody helped him do anything. Right. I believe
there was a the Graham stack coming in, uh that
I saw before the game against the Braves yesterday that

(43:14):
in his last twenty starts against the Braves he has
a two A two year, right, I think it was
too even. I was right around two whatever it might be.
And his record is eight and twelve because of course,
and last I proved it again right now, it's below
to give up one run he's supplied the only round
with the home run didn't get the w I mean,
we've seen this before. There are certainly I even I've

(43:34):
even played and uh, I mean on both of songs
I pitched off for teams. Uh, and the Stickbully, where
my partner they'd scored eighteen runs four I pitched. They
can't score it all for some guys. I think you
you realize with the Grands pitching all right, we know
he's not gonna give up any run. See. I think
you lose that extra edge because you know you don't
need much and she didn't. Then you don't score much. Yeah,
And I also think it's caught a mental too. Then

(43:55):
you sort of know it. Oh we never scored for
the ground never God, that was Mike Fulton image pitching
for at Land last night. I was struggled all year
get the Mets couldn't Hi, So I think it's in
I think it's in their heads that when this last
year we got sent down at one point, right, Yes
he did. He just brought up about three four starts ago.
So uh, you know, I meant that's a guy that
met should be hitting. The fact that someone's teams tricked

(44:17):
out twenty six times and by the way, it still
won the game. In today's baseball, anyone really surprised about this.
It's if it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen in for
sure yep. Uh okay, So George, I think the floor
is gonna be yours because even though you got started
on it, you're gonna get a chance to finish it.

(44:38):
The zz get rand. So Jerry made a joke this week.
Remind everybody what the joke was that Jerry made. What
was the joke? Oh, Zeku was not Zeco? Right? Right? Right?
I mean, first off on this, uh, for Zeke and
his agent to be upset about this, get a life

(45:01):
all right? Get are you kidding me? Zeke? Who makes ups?
It was obviously a joke, right, obviously the joke generally, guys, Um,
I'm always on the player's side when it comes to
getting Uh, I'd agree. Gave about this during one of
our shows this week, but not an argue, but uh
a debate. You know. He was like, oh, he should
fulfill the contract. Owners don't fulfill contracts, right, contracts are

(45:23):
were worthless? The only that is guaranteed money. After that
the owners are ripped that up and at heartbeat, I
think they canill help them alright, So contracts are I
don't It doesn't bother from the players to hold out
for more money, especially running back whole, so it gets crowed.
My problem has always been I think Zeke picked the
wrong year to do this. Yeah, you've been in trouble
pretty much since day one in your career. He's done

(45:43):
a lot of things. Maybe nothing as bad as what
some of these other players have done, but you know,
certainly nothing thing. You are even far for goody two shoes,
you know, I see, and as soon as you get
exonerated by Gadelic, des had to hold out. You know,
I think you should have done this next year, have
one more big year and and do this next year.
You know, that would have been my first thing there.
The second thing is now now we don't know the

(46:04):
exact parameters of the contract Dallas offered dog Zeke. We
know it's been reported, I mean Edward for ESPN reported,
who's back at ESPN reported that it's more than Bell,
less than Guirly, So it's number two money, but we
don't know the guaranteed money in there. Is it number
two guaranteed money? I think Bell got forty five million
guarantees something like that, So you know what, what's the
guaranteed money there? I think if it is between those

(46:27):
two it's so well, I don't. I'm about girly. He
got more than Levon. So yes, we would need to
know that assuming that that guaranteed money isn't line with
what they're saying, then that line. But they can say that,
they can say the conduct two hundred million dollars, but
it was only twenty million guarantee. That's all that's important.
It's fully guaranteed, fully guaranteed. Like even in the case

(46:50):
of Levian Bell, where there's thirty five and guarantees, twenty
seven is fully guaranteed. The other guarantees are like roster
bonuses and everything else that piles on, which will be
guaranteed provided you're on the team. So even I'm with
you and everything you've said so far, George, because it
is really important for the details to come out before
people say, ah, they offered him fifty million bucks. Well

(47:13):
maybe maybe not. Never people should never believe what you hear.
The contract is worth always trying to four year, eighty
million dollar contract. No, he really didn't. What's the guaranteed.
That's the only the teams care about. After that, they'll
release you in a heartbeat. Uh, I can I want
to see what the as you mentioned what conditions are
in there. You know he has been in trouble, so
that Cowboys gonna protect themselves. Uh, they could be once again.

(47:34):
The signing bonus could be tied to Rostovo to when
games are on the roster. It wouldn't shock me at
all what happens if he doesn't get suspended again, which
would be a heavy suspension next time. I would think
hes already gotten six game suspension. Uh goodells give him
at least one warning, if not two. So we'll see
what happens there. I said, I think, Uh, I think
he just picked the wrong time to do this. Yeah,
that's my only missue he I would have done it
that the next year. Running backs do get screwed, especially

(47:57):
first round running backs with the team has you for
five years, you know, and let's face it, five years,
your career may be done. At the end of you
may not get a second contract. So I hope in
the CBA they do adjust that for running back somehow.
I don't know how they would go about this, but
I do. I hope they fix that. But if I
was think I would have done this next year. Guys.
It really comes down to that because very little in
centive for the Cowboys. They've got you on the contract

(48:17):
for two years and then they could franchise you. F'to years.
They've got of a four years, you know, so that
if the Cowboys, what would your number two money? I mean,
I don't know. You don't have much to fight with here.
What are you gonna You're gonna hold out, not make
any money, You're not going anywhere. You just gonna give
up your career. You know, you're gonna play the bluffing
game with Jerry Jones, who now seems to be piste off,
and he he should have said what he said. I
would have never said that if I was Jerry, you know,

(48:40):
the top player. Yeah. I think that's just dumb. But
it's part of Jerry's negotiating too. Some people think it
is I I've heard that, and I'm not to what
faans I'm about some people in the ars. You think
it is his negotiating ploy. Let's eat. Hey, I got
pollowed here, Polo will be okay. We can survive with Pollard,
you know that sort of thing. I do think that
gets done. I you TheInk he'll sign before a week

(49:01):
week one. But it's a shame it's gotten this far.
But this is the serious part now, is that you
know it's two weeks from the regular Seaton starts, so
they really want to get into real pele now, probably
this week. Yeah, I'm with you. I I agree with
just just about everything you said. I think the most
complicated one. I think this is actually as complicated as this.

(49:22):
Maybe I actually think it's less complicated than the Dack
thing because I think they know that they can't pay
Dak top money and keep all this stuff together. Um,
the fact that Jalen Smith got paid makes it seem
more complicated. But I think they dedicated money to that
guy because they know he's an outstanding player, a more
team friendly contract. He did, uh at jokes. So a
couple of things. George brought up the point of Zeke Elliott. Look,

(49:44):
when your first round running back, they've got you for
five years, the four initial, the fifth year kicker for
the option, and then to franchise tax conceivably, that's seven years. Said,
it's an entire lifetime for an NFL running back. Um,
you know, if a running back last ten years, it's
an incredible run, especially somebody producing at Zeke's level. So
you've got a couple of things here. There's the Jerry angle,

(50:06):
and Jerry is definitely ticked off. Jerry did not like
the fact Joe that people pushed back on him with
the joke, people like, why would you say that that?
What is it necessary to say that? Why would you
say it? And and Jerry very pointedly said to reporters yesterday,
I've earned the right to joke with Zeke. I've earned
that right. He said it like three times to make
sure people understand it. And he's earned it obviously, saying

(50:27):
like I'm the owner of an NFL team, I've paid
him a lot of money. I've been nice to him,
support him through these suspensions, fought for him during these suspensions. Look,
you can read all this into what he's saying there,
and he's not wrong. I still think he shouldn't have
said it. But Jerry is not gonna really be told
what to do. Considering who he is and what he's done,
He's not gonna really be told what to do. And
I think that's why he's angry about it. But it

(50:49):
still could be part of a negotiating ploy. What do
you think, Well, I agree with you, guys when I
say he when you say that he probably shouldn't have
said it, but you know, and watching what happened was
right after the Cowboys last preseason game, just he kind
of I don't I don't think he gave it much
thought when he said. It just came out and he
kind of just making a joke about it. But uh,

(51:11):
in terms of what the Cowboys have offered Zeke, the
lay person just reading the article is not you know,
do doing we do to analyze things like this. You know,
it's a great strategic move and my my estimation because look,
we're giving you that you were making you the second
highest paid running back at football. So look it shows

(51:35):
that there giving him something. But if he doesn't take it,
the lay person will be like, hey, you know, this
guy is just a stuff Your son up a gun
when it comes to Zeke. So uh, you know, you know,
like George could probably remember this better than I than
I can. But m it's Smith, similar situation. Uh, didn't

(51:57):
the deal get done with them? It's Smith after week
two or something. He missed the first two season. Yeah,
so I think this gets done. I'm not as confident
that it gets done by week one. You know, look,
if the Cowboys get off to a little rough start.
If they loose to the Giants without uh, you know,
without Zeke in there, it might wake up uh, you know,

(52:21):
it might wake up the Cowboys and Jones. George, let
me do it this way a little longer. George, let
me do it this way for you. What's the percentage
chance that he's in camp this week? This week, we're
talking Monday to Friday, before the week before the Thursday
preseason game. I put it somewhere in the sixties, you know,
about sixty six. It might come after that game. Okay,

(52:45):
So percentage that it's done before week one, I'd probably
gonna agree about high. I probably go about eighty five percent.
I'm I'm not a completely sold it gets done. Uh.
This said when Jones said the joke, that was a
joke because he was smiling. He meant nothing by it,
and he really meant nothing. I just with it out
earlier later, Mike, when he said the uh that he's
earned the right, he was dead serious and you rarely

(53:05):
see him talk. He was at a different Jerry Jones.
He was he was pissed. Don't want I'm not getting personal.
I'm not saying Jerry Jones is right about being piste. Um,
I don't think he was right about making the joke.
But it was a joke, and it was it was
an obvious joke. It was kind of funny, you know,
but it was a stale joke. It's we see this
is this that joke has made a thousand times about

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stuff like this. Is Zke really worried about Paula taking
his job? Come on and he don't. Don't don't play
stupid with me. We all know you. Everybody knows Jerry
Jones knows your whole fame running back policy. Jack. He's
just a guy, you know. So I just get the
person offended. Now this this happens all the time and negotiates.
It's not getting personal. People want to act like it

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is all right. It's it's really not the first couple
of days because this is business. This is business as
usual in the NFL. We see this over and over
and over. Going out with Melvin Gordon is much more,
is much worse, donas We honestly don't have any idea

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if Elliott was upset. We really heard that the agent
said he was upset. But I agree, I agree with that. Right,
that's exactly right. Elliott may be like when he heard it,
because if I was, I probably would have been like
that this funny asshole, you know that that's sort of thing,
and just brushed it off. Now, one thing that was interesting,

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Elliott did retweet uh from yesterday. I believe it was
from Joe Thomas the offensive alignment for the Eveland Browns
that you know, a player of his zilk should go,
should set the market for the next salary. Blah blah
blah blah. The problem is, you know, Dallas hasn't for
two more years on contract. He's not one year away.

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You know, he's before we even talk about the franchise
tag stuff. You know, if Dallas isn't you know, it's
like he's one year away, he's two years away from
being a free agent. He's gotten in trouble over and
over again. He's not the same as other people. He's
been suspended for six games, you know, so he doesn't
have quite that same limit. If he was a good
TiVo Shoes player. I think, once again, this be a
completely different conversation. But the fact that he's two years

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after his contract, the fact he's gotten in trouble with
Goodell got in trouble with the NFL just got out
of it, right. I mean, now we find out the
guy was blackmailing him. As far as the Vegas case, Uh,
still doesn't make you look all that great tweet and
low boil you number two, So you might want to
keep that in mind. You He's not going to win
the pr war no way. But I think the biggest

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point that George has made here that I agree with,
and and Joe, I think you've you're sort of in
line with this too. You can't really comment on until
you know what the parameters of the deal are. The
Levi on belfing that went around the block so many
freaking times with people saying, ah, he's suprima donna, what
does he expect? And then he started learning the details
of the deal and it's like, oh, they really only

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gave him a one year deal, and if he gets
hurt in Levan Bell signed that deal and towards a
c L again, they would have cut him and he
had nothing left. So you could say, well, he didn't
really get much more money long term from the Jets.
You know what he got. He got twenty seven million
bucks for the next two years, and he's good like,

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I think he's really comfortable with it, and if I
were him, I would be too. Maybe he thought it
was gonna be forty. Maybe he's not the highest paid
running back, but whatever, he's gonna be thirty with another
extra seven million bucks. And there you go. Here's the
tweet from Joe Thomas that Zeke Elliott tweet retweeted throughout
the course of NFL history. If you are the best

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player at your position, or clearly one of the best,
when you resign a second contract with the team that
drafted you, you usually beat the highest paid current contract
at your position by fifteen. He's not being offered that
right now. So clearly his off field in discretions are

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impacting this negotiation in some way. How did they not?
If you're the Cowboys, you have to protect yourself on
some level. But obviously there's president there Joe Galina that
maybe he should be get paid a little bit more
because that's the way it's been done. Certainly, that's what
the agent is going to argue. If Joe Thomas knows it.
I'm sure the agent knows it. Yeah, I agree with you.

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I mean, is he the best? I mean, you got
a CMC he got Barkley coming up. I mean, but yes,
definitely one of the top three backs in in football
deserves to be compensated. But there's that funny little thing
that he saw that he's on the contract to play
for three point five million this year. I get him

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being upset. I get the fact that the running backs
don't have a long, uh shelf life life in the NFL.
So you see both points here. You know, in a
way on the contract, but in another way, you know,
he's just one of the top three backs in football.
He's right up there, George percentage on Melvin Gordon getting

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done by week one, I might go the exact option.
What think less than that ten? They low boled him.
He's pissed. I don't think he's showing up the week
I love it, and this his last year. This is
last year, this deal. I'll show up and think I
think he's got that. They did low bold. They have
guys behind them. They think they can win with Ekeler

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and Jackson at the same back. But good enough, he's
not gonna be there alright, folks, Joe and George are
gonna take you to our number three. I'm out here
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