April 25, 2022 • 66 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ring ring ring ring. May I please speak with Zoe. Oh, hello, Lamarne.
Let's patch in Hannah. God, I forgot what it was
like working with you guys. Hello, and welcome to Welcome
(00:30):
to our show. Welcome to I'm Zoe. We have Lamourne
and Hannah here and a very very special guest, Love Roquet,
one of our amazing um writer producers on the show.
And he was there with us from day one, day one,
(00:51):
and it and it feels like you haven't left, like
you never left. Well he was stalking you, Lamuren. So
that was that was that that part of his Have
we addres staid already? I'm sorry for my tardiness. We
have addressed anything. Ye. Um, Well I want to address
two things. Well, while we get while we got you here,
(01:11):
well there's an agenda procedure, but all right, you'd like
to jump right. I looked at my cameras one day,
my security cameras, and uh, this is for the folks
at home who don't you know, don't know love love
like most people drop stucees from time to time, and
(01:33):
I go, I check my security camera one day, Um,
this is a real story and I have photos to
prove it. I feel like you need so much more context.
We will we will go we'll go backwards to to
click to clean up the story. But I checked my
security cameras. There are porta potties outside of my house,
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and who is standing there? Now? If I were telling
the story, I would try to let the audience know
that there are porta potties in front of your house
and why and then maybe say like, I have security
cameras pointed outside my house and yeah, but that's me.
You know, law Rocket is a really good writer. We
(02:15):
should probably listen to him story. Yeah, well, he's going
to tell the story in a very sitcoming way. I
was going to tell it in a very HBO way.
That's what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah, but anyways, elevating, it's
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just dirt, got some f bombs and like the like
the nineties era. I'm gonna tell you, Yeah, I'm gonna
tell you. What I know is that Lamourn sometimes has
people who maybe rent out their house for productions, um
next door to him or across the street, neighbors established.
(03:00):
In fact, I would say yeah, and that and that
when you have a production, there's there there's lots of
trucks and things equipment that need to be brought in
and um, one of those kinds of trailer trucks. There's
no there's no shock value, there's no shock value. Might
get to the shock. We need to build well. And
(03:23):
one of those things is a porta potty and Love
um was working on a show. He was there, Um
as a writer producer. I'm assuming and um, you know, overseeing,
you know all the words that people are saying. And
he had to go to the bathroom. We don't know
whether it was one or two. Only Love knows that.
(03:45):
I think probably know that because he has the time steps.
But yeah, so yeah, what was it number one? You
know when to tell me on the production. It also
could be a third option where you're just in their
hiding from responsibilities. That's true. That yeah, I mean I
(04:12):
think that's the place you would trea bad set if
if if the porta potties a step up and it's
like a refuge from from the set. But but but
you know, I listen, I do apologize about dropping the
bomb first before I established the setting. Yes, they were
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filming a TV show, Yes against storytelling, not against me so,
but but the folks out there who tuned out immediately
left knowing and now we all have to lie in it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
I mean we could do another intro now if you want,
(04:53):
because everyone well our show talking to the best producer
right in the whole town. Yeah, yeah, girl questions. Maybe
you guys, you guys can't see this, but love is
rocking the smooth this mustache that I've seen it is
(05:14):
a very smooth, like Bollywood hero level. Thank you. Oh yeah,
you're definitely on a Bollywood poster right now, right now
with a one eyebrow up and and you're you're you're
showing us that you're the romantic lead. Yeah. I don't
meet said you're wooing with some dances. I'm just trying
(05:35):
to diversify putting out there in Hollywood and just throwing
it out there for everybody. An this is a leftover
from my gomez Adam's Halloween. It looks great because I
was more Titia and I thought I would just keep
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it going for a little while. He's enjoying it. Yeah,
you you are giving me rawle. Julia well, Julia vibes. Yeah,
that's what she looked like. That's what I was aiming at.
You nailed it. Thank you nailed it. Thank you. Um
So you were with us from pretty much the very
very beginning, as soon as there were writers hired. I
(06:19):
heard your name from our wonderful as Merryweather. I remember
her saying that she had gotten this amazing writer, um
named Love Rocke who had been on It's what was
Sunny in Philadelphia with my brother in law David Hornsby,
um um and um so I was, you know, I
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remember being like, who is this Love Rockue? First of all?
Amazing name and m do you remember the first episode
that you wrote? Of course? Of course in fact there
I think as a as a parting gift, I have
to this little painting right here, not painting, framed piece
(07:00):
of work. There are two pages from that script that
Liz Bretton Dave gave me, um when you know, a
graduation gift. So that episode was Bells Bell fantastic episode.
The episode I got injured on one of the many yeah,
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which Lamourn was always injuring himself in unconventional ways and
spice things up. That was like one of those um
kind of like you know, wear and tear from from
practicing bells so much. His wrist. Fun fact. Fun fact
both my wrists are still dainty, still very injured. And
(07:50):
I would like to say that Bells had something to
do with it. I think you've got a case. Think
some time to get paid, time to give. Who are
you going to sue Love? Sounds like mereborn child? You
(08:14):
want another kid? Lam? Sure, yeah, if you you pay,
you pay for the kid's cute's very cute's Yeah. It
was sharp Love taking all the way back. So how
did you connect with Liz Brett Dave? How did they
convince you to be on a completely untested, brand new show. Um, well,
(08:37):
I mean, you know there there's just kind of the
straightforward answer is you know these things are you know,
arranged by agents, and they're just like scripts that are
like they sent, you know, like someone submits you and
they read your script and they're like, all right, we
like this guy, we like the script. Let's meet the
guy I met there was like a first meeting with
(09:00):
one of our other producers, pubven shettyn is awesome. Cleared
that bar um and then got through that guy. Yeah
he tried but he failed. He's like, here's here's going
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to be um and uh and then you know I
and then I met with Liz bretton Dave. It didn't
take very much convincing because they screened the pilot, which
I think is it is just one of the great
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comedy pilots of the last twenty years for sure. I
mean it just kind of it's pretty electrifying still, I think, um,
and I've gone back to watch it every now and then.
It's like, this is just really really good. You kind
of get every one. It's really funny, it's about something.
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So you know, it was a one way convincing. We're
kind of like at the end of that, we're both
we're all like mutually convinced and just like enjoying each
other's company or like you're great, you're great, you're great, um,
one of those types of things. And then you know
the ride began and why already gave you bells and
(10:27):
then yeah, area of expertise, so yeah, how experienced were
you at playing the bells? As we know that that
it came from experience, very experienced, um, from all of
my church. You know, the genesis of that episode was
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that you know that was gonna be that was like
our first like let's constant, let's really like do a
winsome story. Um. And the kernel of that one was
we want to have like a jest thing that she's
really into, and she's like, I want to invite Winston
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into this because he seems interested in it, but then
he like starts to dominate it. Um. And initially that
was going to be a much inferior idea. There's going
to be like a TV discussion group that Jess was
in for a fake version of Downton Abbey called Cramdell Lane.
(11:33):
Oh god, I remember this so well. I remember the
original version because I remember, yeah, because everyone was obsessed
with Downton Abbey at that time, which I still called
Downtown Abbey. I think that. I think at the moment
we knew that Lamar was going to call it Downtown Abbey,
were like, I think we should do something more visual.
(11:57):
I know a few Downtown Abbeys. Let me tell you
she's downtown and her name is that I got um
but yeah, that was what was it called Crandall Lane Lane.
(12:17):
There was gonna be a theme song to the tune
of Purple Rain. Um uh and uh. But yeah, I
don't I don't remember where the bell's detail came from. Um.
But you know, somebody wanted to injure Lamourn's risk. Yeah,
it was literally instrument. Those things look like the radio pop.
(12:43):
It's kind of like a light kettle bell. You know,
when you first started, I'll start off as an actor
and you you you put your list of skills at
the bottom of your resume. Maybe you guys saw my
first resume. Handbells definitely was on there, hand bells thinking
of those humiliating, repetitive stress puzzles. Um. Yes, And then
(13:09):
you did this one that I just I feel like,
I feel like, did you write like a favor number
in season one? I feel like you wrote like four
or five? Is that? Yeah? They were. They just kind
of kept circling back to my plate um. And so yeah,
I did. I did a bunch in season Is that correct?
I did not do that, Okay, but you did the
(13:31):
you did the Schmidt's Birthday party though, right, Yes, the
Story of the fifty Story of the Fifty. Yeah, yeah,
okay did that one Story of the Fifty. I literally
just watched and it's so funny, and I remember it
morphed a fair amount because we had a lot of
stuff thrown at us, like, um, the fog that day
(13:53):
we were shooting on a mountaintop. We're supposed to be
able to see all of l a lushly decorated mount
We could see for miles and and as soon as
we like all truck up there with all of our
trucks of various kinds, that's been discussed already and we're like,
you guys killed. Its beautiful, beautiful location and the set
(14:15):
deck is stunning, and I think I believe the theme
was Tuscany. Uh yeah, that's right, Tuscany. Yeah. And then
for you know, the just just curated party right right right,
which is why the sharkuti makes sense when you hear
it later, but not when you don't know. I mean,
it makes sense of course people serve that at parties.
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But but it was like it was all themed in
because Jess is you know. But then it couldn't be
Tuscany because we had a thick marine layer that just
rolled in a start like you could barely see like
three ft in front of you, let alone like the
entire city of l Yes, it suddenly was like, oh,
this is a student film. Was I in this episode?
(15:00):
I did not recall this one. You're in the episode.
But what I just realized is Yeah, I was not
in Bells and I was not in the Story of
the fifty And I remember being so excited hearing that
there was an Indian writer that had been hired for
the show. And I feel like every episode that you wrote,
we were kept apart apart, there's too many of us
(15:21):
by our families. It's a real Romeo Juliet. Yeah. If
if it hadn't been for that, you guys might be
married at this point. And that's what everyone was talking
about on set. That was the crazy thing. The first
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quote Leanna love would be like they would fall in
love and yeah, but I can't read it right around
right around, Well maybe after Bells. No, No, then he's
going to do a story. Yeah. Another area have expertise
for you writing just douchebag jokes NonStop? Is that an
(16:05):
easy thing for you? You know? I know, you know,
writing for certain characters, some of it comes from inside
of you experience, whatever the case may be. Writing for
a character like Schmidt in particular, probably TV's favorite douche
bag of all time? Is that? Is that something that
was easy for you? Is that something that comes from
people you know? Yeah? Really easy? Um, you know, I
(16:35):
think I don't know. I guess I friends with a
lot of douche bags, you know, that was That's one
of those terms. I guess people just kind of say
bros now or I don't know what they say. That
type has certainly been around forever. They don't go away
you think they will, and then they won't like a
(16:55):
bad penny, They're just like like shark teeth, there's just
the old ones fall out and that there's just a
million new ones right there. There's a new social climber
with vocabulary full of like shortened words. I think, I think,
honestly like a lot of like it's always sunny type
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of maybe not specifically the jokes, but like that aggressive
point of view, uh relent itself to Schmidt jokes. Yeah,
and there's just like a fun like it too Schmidt too,
you know. And then also you know, Max just like
(17:42):
grabs such a hold of that character. You could it
was just very clear what a Schmidt joke would be. Yeah,
it's funny. I like, I remember being there were certain
I think it was like season two where I got
the feeling that the writers were really tired, because sometimes
I would get jokes and I'd be like this is
clearly a Schmitt joke. And then I remember calling up
(18:06):
Listen being like, um, you met this first Schmitt right,
and she was like, oh, I mean yeah maybe, And
I was like, yeah, that's a Schmitt joke. Like there
would be like it's so clear what a Schmitt joke is.
You know, Liz, you're having me mispronounced potpourri. That's for
those out there who don't know what potpourri is. It
(18:26):
can all It can sometimes be used as an air
freshener in bathrooms, supporta potties, things that we're just calling
it back. Well you know what we're speaking about. Ive
never seen anyone put potpouri in a in a porta potty,
but really, Poopouri? Have you heard of poopoury? This episode
is brought to Poopouri because I might have to get
(18:54):
them to sponsor the show and just have lamour and
only do Yeah, the Girl Podcast sponsored lad Yeah. But look,
there's a reason why I bring that up because you
know on that episode there, um I had yeah, but yeah,
but love has nothing to do. But we're gonna bring
(19:17):
it back up. I can memories. It stirs in me. Yes,
there was a memory that that that I wanted to
ask if you remember you hear about this didn't travel
back to the writer's room. Well, that's actually I believe
was season two, and I don't think I was season one,
season one Christmas episode the Houses. Yeah, Candy Kane Lane,
(19:42):
Candy Kane Lane, so on Candy Cane Lane Lamar had
an accident and incident, an incident. That's why I was
wondering if you had heard it. But I'm glad the writers.
I guess nobody talked, no one went no one went
back and want it's okay, love? Can you honestly get
(20:02):
off the subject? Bro? Like explosive, I'm hearing some kind
of love Lauren had a or something. Zoe. We've been
asking you this whole episode to stop talking about porta potties,
infernal injuries, injuries. Love. I had to go really really bad,
(20:23):
that's all I was just And I thought me and
you were brothers in in that and was like, not
set didn't write the episode of like nine years ago.
You heard the story of what I had to poop
bad on set Like this is how we're using our time.
Oh hey, I've been dying to ask you did you
(20:43):
hear about when love you gotta stop, man, you gotta
stop you making me blues moving on. No, I think
the confidentiality of the set protected you until now now
everyone knows, and that's that's what I appreciated about New
Girl Welcome. We have spoke to Mammoth and he was saying,
(21:18):
how or we told him? So you told him right
that I had heard that Mammoth was like like really
like good at um writing jazz lines. Was there a
character that you felt like you were really like that,
like you're just like that's like super easy for me,
Like I'm really good at writing, like you know, Winston
or CC or Jazz or Schmidt or Nick. Was there
(21:42):
somebody or do you feel like you're more of like
all around? Uh? I think it was all around, all
around her type. Yeah, and I enjoyed them all. I mean,
I think it's no secret that we like didn't really
figure out Winston until later. Interesting, So you know, I
think I think we're kind of like I first you
(22:04):
were like, he's really good at stuff, and then when
you is that he's so good at everything that it's irritated,
and then you're like, oh no, actually he's just the
nerd who love puzzles. Yeah, that's yeah, that's what it
took to you know, sometimes you've got to start a
(22:27):
couple of fires and see which one goes. And I
became your favorite to write for it. That's amazing, absolutely absolutely,
thank you. So many avenues to pursue. So you were
with us from the beginning to the end. You took
a break, though, right, you went off and did another
show for a second. Yeah, yeah, I took it. I
took I didn't do season four. Um, and then I
(22:52):
wasn't a part of the last season either. And then
I guess also at the beginning of season two, I
was very intermittent presence. You were on you were on
It's So Sunny Too at the same time, right, so
because there they were on like a different schedule because
they were like a cable show, so you you were
able to do both. But um, but yeah, we we
missed you a little bit in there. And then where
(23:16):
did you go to season four? Season four? I I
was I'm trying to think of the most distinct way
to tell this story, but basically I know where you went.
We I was I had created a show with the
Sunny Guys or Tracy Morgan, Oh oh yeah, and um,
(23:38):
but but you know that's when his accident happened. Oh
my gosh. So it was you know, very very sad
and just an awful accident. And then one of the
less important outcomes of that was you know that that
show was kind of put on ice for a little while, um,
(24:01):
but then eventually resurrected under different people or different network
and it's it's the show The Last o G which
is still on Love Tracy Morgan. So I get why
you left us, and it's always sunny. People are absolutely amazing,
So I understand, but we missed you. I came running
(24:22):
and we came back, came back. We were like and
we came we were like open arms. Yeah. I noticed
that when you left, our ratings kept from dropping. Yeah weird.
Our ratings dropped and they were like, we need more love.
We need this guy who likes to write for all
of them, Yeah, this master of all trades. Do you
(24:42):
have a standout episode for you that was the most
challenging to write? Uh? Yeah, I think I think it was.
I think it was also the best us just Jess
and Julia. Oh, I love that episode. That one was.
(25:05):
I can't wait to talk about that episode. Let's talk
about it. I mean, that was that that was inspired
by like real stuff that was going on at the time. Yes,
kind of go ahead, sorry, no, no, you go ahead.
You go ahead because I want to hear from your well.
I mean, you know, the show was a big breakout hit,
(25:27):
but there was like a lot of conversation about like
where what the Jess character meant for feminism and so um,
you know, like we usually I think it's my best
practice to not read too much about like what people
(25:49):
are saying about a show, but it was kind of unignorable,
and we were like, let's take this head on. Yeah,
and we don't. I mean, I think a lot of
the criticism was like ended up kind of being directed
at me personally, Zoe, you know, and it was kind
(26:12):
of interesting because I think it actually that episode allowed
like us as a show to make a very good point,
which is something I've kind of like always been saying.
It's like why do you care what I like? You know, Like,
why do you care if I like, you know, to
craft or you know that I like things that are
(26:33):
traditionally associated like with you know, like I'm not saying
that girls should like pink and purple and sparkles. But
just because I like something like that means nothing in
terms of like, you know, you know who I am,
you know, as a you know, it doesn't mean that
I can't be a feminist. Why why I be strong
(26:54):
and like those things? Just like this is the I
like irock, I rock a lot of polka dots, right, Yes,
exactly was given and I loved how you guys tackled
it because it was it was it kind of because
the Julia character is a great character, and she's totally
cool and awesome, and then you know the fact that
Julia kind of misunderstands Jess, and that Jess has the
(27:16):
opportunity to, in a very articulate way, say you know
her piece. I thought that was just such a great
and it was such a great way that it was
you know done too. It was just yeah, and if
you were I mean, that was an episode that I
co wrote with Liz, and Liz was very fired up
(27:38):
about about the whole thing, which was fantastic, and I honestly,
I think like what you're talking about is definitely one
of the core elements of the episode. But I think
the reason that it landed is that it was in
the story that was it was really like, you know,
(27:59):
you always wanted a show. It's great for you don't
have to have it, but it's great for a show
to have some kind of thesis statement of like here's
what I here's what I see in the world. This
is so you know, Liz's thesis statement with New Girl
was always about like here's how I see modern generals, um.
(28:21):
And I think what was really cool about that episode
was that, like that conversation about feminism was a part
of a story where um, the characters were all kind
of posturing and dealing with like the demands of traditional
general gender roles, um and struggling with that. So Julia,
(28:42):
who was you know, a lawyer and kind of thought
of herself as a certain uh you know, was okay
in addition to kind of um have being a judgment
about a certain style of clothing or presentation or whatever,
(29:07):
also had like a kind of a spill over a
judgment that she hadn't thought about about emotionality, and so
she was very guarded and she was like, you know,
like Nick, you know, Nick says too, just um, yeah,
we don't you know, we don't want to do the
labels thing. And just kind of with her emotional intelligence
(29:29):
consume through that and then turns out to be right,
especially when anyway, I feel like I'm getting like a
little I want to hear that. No, no, no, it's
so good because I don't remember it well, you know,
Jess and Julia had if you if you watch it again,
it's like the characters all have like the scope of
(29:52):
the episode. I can't believe it's all like jammed into
one episode. It feels like a movie because well more
and that was like you're leave that was your Shelby episode.
I believe that was the beginning of that was it? Really?
Do think? So the Shelby Cally Hawk wonderful Cally Hawk. Yeah,
(30:15):
this is where this is like you know, Winston was like,
you know, too cocky with her and and has to
kind of be brought down a peg. But I but
I think that was the same episode, which is kind
of like that's a lot of story a lot in
twenty one minutes. Second, is that also the Ribbon Hat episode? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(30:41):
good of having your girls back. Well, that's that's kind
of like I think what was really like the legs
on that episode that you know, like Julia was like
a a kind of person who was kind of you know,
suspicious of a certain way of carrying yourself as a woman,
(31:05):
but also had these liabilities and kind of you know,
she didn't have female friendships and maybe had you know,
some suspicion about that. And it was great that just
like not only in a you know, could we could
like show her having great female friendships, you know, supportive
and kind of really engaging with each other. And that
(31:26):
was like enticing and inviting to Juliana. Like the best
best moment for me for that episode is after like
the big confrontation to ingested Julia at the courthouse, that
Julia comes to apologize to just um and then sees
that she's with her girlfriends and feels like, oh that
(31:48):
might be like hostile energy and then justice like no
commit And I was like that was and that was
written by Kim Rosenstock that scene, Um, and it was great.
Yeah Kim is it's not great, another great writer that
we had on on the show. Um. Yeah, I really
love that episode. What a what a definitely mini movie there.
(32:10):
There are a lot of episodes on New Girl that
I would call like many movies. Um, and that is
definitely one of them. Well, you know, I also think
that like we I think, you know, in the initial
sort of like what are we doing? Were where I think,
(32:34):
you know, we kind of everyone burned themselves out running
at that high gear for so long. But you kind
of make some unconventional choices that that do that are
that expect more of the audience. Like if you talk
about like the introduction of the Julia character, she was
introduced in a way that you never would have done
(32:54):
in latter seasons. You you just kind of dropped the
audience into the fact that, like Nick has been dating
someone and has not brought her around, and that's the first,
that's the first that the audience even hears about her.
I thought I'd missed a scene, Like I thought I'd
missed a scene when I watched that episode. I like
the way it happened, Yeah, because it's kind of like, oh,
(33:16):
they have this thing established. And also I think I
think Jake already knew Lizzy, so they kind of had
a rapport that felt familiar anyway, you know, maybe they'd
work together, they you know, just knew each other and
and so like I felt like that the scene, the
first scene you see them together in the in the
story of the fifty Um. They you know, they feel
(33:39):
like they they're people, have been on a few dates
and there they have a rapport. And I think what
was also great about that drop into UM was that
it made you feel like how Winston and Jess and
everybody else must have felt, which is like, wait a minute,
I know these people intimately. I watched this show. I
know these character rs and like, who's that right? And
(34:02):
you got you all the same feeling as the other
characters when they're just like why don't you bringing her around?
You embarrassed us, Like why didn't I know about this name? Yeah?
And he was like yeah. But it's also I think
it's more real for the audience. You know, like, look
like there is a presentational style to TV and especially
(34:23):
half our TV, and you're kind of like, you know,
that sort of stuff is rare on network sitcoms, but
you know that was such a different era ten years ago,
you know, UM, And I think some of the audiences
therefore to like, yeah, we're like willing to be a
(34:44):
little more immersed and we appreciate it when the story
is like giving me credit and trying to feel real
instead of just being like, hey, here's the information you
need to understand the episode. Ready. Yeah, I prefer to
(35:05):
see you know, even in a sitcom, you have to like,
you know, lay out some exposition. But the more creative
you can be in giving the exposition is the better.
And and also the less the better. And I definitely
think that there was a real effort me to kind
of avoid like those like very conventional ways of like
(35:28):
giving people details backstory. Yeah, speaking of non conventional ways
to tell stories. You're working on a show now called
Dave Love, Dave Love Dave Chelan. That is that is you, guys,
(35:48):
don't already watch it. Do yourself a favor. Run don't walk.
Don't I mean you don't have to run. That can
get pretty dangerous. You can make it run to you
do it runs here, I mean it's streaming everywhere. Fingers
on the remote stream it stream it gets Use those yeah,
(36:12):
use those Nintendo fingers. Nintendo still exists. Can we just
talk about this for one second, because it was the
way you knew we were on a huge sound stage.
There's so many people, so many corners, but you always
knew if Love was on set because he's got the
most easily identifiable laugh. Yeah you've ever heard, and you
(36:35):
would always hear it, And for me, it was always
like the best of failing, because you're like, come up here,
it's a jolly and delightful laugh. Or if the lights
are off and you're watching one of those conjuring type films,
can also be considered Yeah, sorry, we're talking about that.
(36:58):
It cannot be muffled. I gotta say like, I loved
it when takes were ruined because of laughing, because I'm like,
this means we got something going on here. You know.
I remember the first season seeing the boom shaking and
looking over on our boom operator was laughing so hard
they could barely keep the boom still. Um, well, let's
let's let's yeah, let's talk about Dave for a second. Yeah,
(37:20):
let's talk about Dave. We we love the show to
talk about Dave. How did you find your way to Dave?
You know, it's the same old, same old, boring story.
Um that you know. My agent was like, do you
know about Little Dicky? And I was like, I know,
I'm old now, and he's like, let me let me
(37:41):
tell you. Um And you know, um, Dave bird a
k little Dicky has been kind of making videos like
just these insanely viral, super funny but like great music
also videos for several years and and so it's like, wow, yeah,
(38:06):
I definitely got to meet this guy. And so you know,
we started making the show, and I think the big
surprise on Dave was just like the level of emotionality.
I mean, I you know, you just the first season
to show you just really you have a pilot, you know,
which tells you a lot, but but then you have
(38:28):
a lot to figure out and you don't always know,
like you know what whenever. I mean, you guys all
know this, Like you know, when you like go to
pitch a show, you like pretend like you like have
the whole thing. I've got it, but I'm not gonna
tell you here's what's gonna happen. It's going to end.
And then you know, everyone talks about like when your
(38:50):
show actually if you you know, I don't even know
if they make pilots these days or just straight to series,
which seems even more daunting. But then you're like, all right,
I have to actually do this now, um, and you
don't know, you have to feel it out. Um. Always
straight to series with me yea with Lam it's different
(39:10):
than the well yeah, green light, green light Morris, that's
what they call them. Go go go. Thanks, thanks for saying.
They just have a bank account ready that's just full
of money for Lauren. Real gold, real gold, yeah, real gold.
(39:33):
What is that? It's full, it's actually full. It's not
a bank account. It's like screws holding up gold coin
swimming pool. Yeah yeah, Lamurn is holding an award. I
don't know what it is, but it's definitely real good.
It's the Rose Door Award for Comedy for Unintentional Comedy
(39:58):
for Woke for Um, which is also one with you
get your WHO subscriptions. Get it in order, guys. Make
sure don't let it lapse. Make sure it's up to
date so you can watch all of Woke and all
(40:18):
of Dave because there's some people who are talented behind
these shows. I have to just share with you love
because I don't know if we've ever talked about it
since it happened. One of my favorite love moments on
set also goes to show why representation matters on set.
But they were we were shooting the episode where Schmidt
(40:41):
has broken his penis and he's coming to meet my grandmother.
And we were just like hanging out at video village
kicking it and we're like, who did you get to
play with the grandmother? And they were still like we're
still looking. We're still looking anyway, and I'll never forget
(41:01):
it was. I think it was Liz sitting there with
a bunch of people. Do you remember this, and they
were like, oh, yeah, we should. We just found someone. Um,
she's super great, She's gonna be great. She's flying out
here from New York. Her name is mad Madder Matt
And both you and I in Unison went, you're not
(41:23):
going to say mother, Joffrey are There's no way you
can't have bother Joffrey And we both had these meltdowns
and had to like fully deep dive into what in
like a legend of a woman she is. And I
remember like being emotional and like I could not believe
that she was going to come and play this role.
(41:44):
This woman is going to have a masterclass in six
years ago. Cookie, you don't understand, like Queen DOULI a child.
I was like, what is happening? And then I dawned
on me and I remember looking at you was like
I'm going to meet this woman that I have known
and loved my whole life from Afar, and I have
to sit at a table with her and talk about
(42:07):
a broken dick. See that's the thing. That's the thing.
There's always a catch. There's always at It's like they're like,
we're gonna get your hero here, and you know, yeah,
you can ask her questions about, you know, whatever you want,
but once the cameras rolling, you're gonna have to talk
(42:28):
to her about a proven day. And I remember feeling
so you know, when you're like in and out of
your body at the same time, like I was in
the scene, but I'm also like, you're am sitting with
mother Joffrey. This is amazing, And I remember, I guess
that's where Schmidt's character learns that um being emotional like
(42:53):
turns him on. And it's very painful because he's in
a cast. So we had to make these noises of
excruciating pain of realizing he was in love. And it's
Max And I'll never forget I was so in and
out of the scene. I'm looking at her and I
have this insane will the beast next to me making
(43:15):
these crazy sounds in front of this woman that I'm
trying to be respectful within our culture, especially to be like,
she's this woman I just want to you know, I'm
trying to like hold myself to this high regard. Anyway,
it was one of those I remember laughing so hard
because I was so uncomfortable and nervous and he was
so funny that I cried all my makeup off, all
my lashes off. I crawled under the table to try
(43:38):
to compose myself during the scene. And we always want
to give a quick bio of mad Their Jeoffrey so
that everybody to enlighten anybody who doesn't know her her.
She's a legend. She's a legend. She's double double threat.
I'm sure she has many other threats, but she's at
like a world class level with two things. She's an actor,
(44:00):
but as Hannah was saying, she's also like the Julia
child of Indian cooking. Especially it's like most recognizable ambassador
to the Western world. So you know, even like the
certainly I don't know when when she started, but certainly
like as early is the eighties, was kind of like
here's Indian cooking, and I want to bring it to
(44:23):
to the West. And an iconic film star. I mean,
she's just absolutely she's incredible. And her daughter, Zecchina Geoffrey,
it's also as incredible actress. And there wasn't you know,
there's not a lot of us out there that we're
kind of breaking through. There's a lot of us out there.
But but it was a huge moment. And I just
(44:47):
remember you and I locking eyes and like you getting
it and then that it was just like a really
great moment for me. I don't know, but my parents
were there for that scene. They had they had come
to visit oh my, and so they're excited. They were
so excited. But this exact same and like the exact
(45:07):
same feelings you're talking about. It was just like, you know,
how I paid my bills? Like this is let me,
let me set the scene for you. What do you
need to know in order to understand this scene? His
(45:28):
dick broke broke his dick from violent sex. I mean,
you guys are familiar with this, right thing, right the
thing everybody knows about this, and you're having to get
a huge direction in this scene. Yeah, it's gonna be
gonna make a lot of noises. And the noises are
(45:50):
going to interrupt a lovely scene. Yeah, that was where
my parents like as soon as as soon as they
started shooting, they both were like did their personalities like
so perfectly to a tiem. My mom was like, immediately
(46:12):
starts pitching lines and he's like, what I think Schmidt
said like this, and then my dad shushes her and
demonstrates like a knowledge of coverage that I had no
idea he knew. He was like, it's not sci started right,
just not shoots turned right now. Scy sterned later and
(46:37):
m and then Kim Rosenstock was there, who had just started,
like you know, still pretty early in her and she
was like, oh, like that's coverage. Tell me more, that's
amazing writer directors in your blood. Yeah, I was typing
in mother Jeoffrey because I was going to give a
profound explanation of who she was. However, yeah, well I
(47:02):
missed too long. Well yeah I misspelled her name, and
then uh seriously, Lanister came up mother of Joffrey and
I and then you went down at Wikipedia hole WI
we were all talking about to wow, so there's dragged Yeah. Yeah,
(47:26):
I'm a big Game of Thrones fans, so you know
I'm glad you brought that mother of Joffrey. Yea, oh
my goodness, Olcole speaking of unruly children love since you
(47:51):
were there from day one almost to the very end. No,
just the evolution of the show. I mean, very few
people get to it on something for you know, years
and years and years and watch this show kind of grow. Um,
I don't know, talk to us a little bit about that,
Just a little bit about watching the show, the story,
(48:12):
the characters. Yeah, you always have like a couple of
engines in the show that I mean, that's like a
clinical way of talking about it, but like a basic tension,
you know. Um. And I think with our show and
other kind of friends type shows, like one of them
(48:35):
is just like what you know, like how you know,
how are where are these characters gonna end up? And
how are they going to kind of transition? How are
they going to make the transition from like friend life
to family life. It's kind of like the basic journey
and certainly is the journey that we took our characters on. UM.
(48:57):
So that was like really gratify. I mean, I don't
know about you guys, but I think like between us
and like I don't know, like Brooklyn nine nine. I
don't know if we're going to see any more like
two episode shows go for that long, right, um So,
(49:23):
and I think that there's something that's like very immersive
about it at you know again, I always like reach
for these like ted talk type words, and all I
mean is that, like you know, the audiences has really
like loves the characters and feels like they know them
and they're they're real and you have just spent so
(49:45):
much time with them so you can kind of you
just get really invested in that journey and then you
have like a couple of little sign posts long the way,
Like I thought Max made a really great point when
and the it was like kind of a last second
idea for the Schmidt and CC wedding that the douchebag
(50:08):
jar be broken uh during the wedding ceremony and um
and he was like in a way that I don't
I'm not trying to cast his versions on Max, and
he is so surprised at such a pointed observation from him.
It was just like it's the strength of the observation.
(50:28):
He was just like, well, this is the end of
the Schmidt character story. Like that was like you know,
the douchebag jars, like what you see in the pilot,
like this is this character's issue. He like has a
heart of gold, but you know, for whatever reasons and
you know, his own journey that has been on, can't
(50:50):
control it. And when he finally conquers that, like that's
the end of his story. Um, And you know, I
mean I think that there's still there was still little
bit more story to be told for Schmidt. But that's
also true, Like that was like the you know, the
main journey that that character was on, and when you
(51:12):
end that, you end that that journey, and you know,
you try to come up with other ones. Um. And
you know there's been like overlapping ones in his story.
With his own family obviously is a source of of
that as well. But I just I was just really impressed.
Uh and and this kind of dumb struck by by
(51:35):
that observation. It's really true. So it was like great
to see. And then you know, like with with Jess,
I would be curious to know how you feel about
this Zoe. Um of like Jesse's career stories, I feel like,
(52:00):
uh that that would be one that I kind of
want back a little bit because I think we fell
prey to this like very American idea of like, oh,
you've got to climb the ladder, and somehow that resulted
in like just like wanting to be an administrator. And
it was a little bit like you, I thought, we
(52:22):
kind of like got up a tree on that because
it's like, is that that exciting, like, you know, visually comedically. Um,
I don't know, what do you think about that? That's interesting.
I hadn't actually thought of I hadn't actually thought of
it that way. I mean, I felt it more as
a comment on Jess still trying to find herself in
(52:46):
in a professional setting, that like that she's kind of
constantly searching. She's like like a middle school teacher, then
she teaches adults, and then she's you know, an administrator,
and she kind of like switches around a lot. Um.
I kind of took it more from that perspective. And
then I did like the contrast, you know, um, because
(53:09):
Jess is such a teacher, um. And then you know, um,
I did like the contrast of her kind of being
a little out of place as a principal. Um that
that she's kind of like a kid in a lot
of ways, and and what happens when you have this
(53:31):
character that's kind of a you know a bit you know,
it's very young at heart and then they're having to
do a very grown up job. But you know, I
I could see that, um but but from my perspective,
I didn't. It didn't bother me. I thought it was
just like you know, those those shifts you know, where
(53:54):
she's looking for a job, like those those kind of
those kind of moments you know, or those kind of
like parks were really great and um, you know kind
of created a lot of good episodes too, just like
where she's just in between jobs and totally totally and
I think, like, you know, the show obviously is tethered
(54:16):
to the idea of like is it is just going
to find happiness? You know? Um, And so that's definitely like,
you know, like finding that satisfaction in that part of
your life is part of it. Um. But you know
that was fun to tell, like a sprawling story about
(54:37):
you know, where you just spend so much years with
this character and like and you know, get to that
happy ending and then I think with you know, like
I think I think was I think that was kind
of ultimately the I don't know that's kind of like
(54:57):
ultimately the journey for all the care characters and probably
for like every character ever, especially like in Half hour TV,
And it's like something that's like you know when you're
like when you try to pitch it, they're like, what's
the exciting, crazy thing that that it's about, And it's
(55:19):
like I can kind of do that's like song and
dance of like, yeah, it's about this and and definitely
like this show was like through through Liz's lens, and
that's what was like exciting and interesting about it. But
ultimately the concept of what the characters are pursuing is
(55:41):
I mean, it's universal, but it sounds been out to
say they're pursuing happiness. But you know, like that it's
it's in the specifics of the execution and like are
like you know you're gonna blush, but like our absolutely
brilliant cast like just bringing these characters to life, um,
(56:01):
in like such specific ways, and like that's what you're
going for and are amazing writers. Well there were a lot,
so you know, but but um, you know, it's like
it's when you say it on paper, it sounds so
stupid and obvious. Um, but sometimes that's life. It's interesting too,
(56:27):
I feel like because we did it very kind words.
There's something too I felt at least was that because
we had so much time with the characters, and you know,
all the writers were in the same age group ish
as the cast was and the producers, and again we
(56:49):
spent so much time together that it was everybody kind
of went from like dating and then having families and
organically as was happening on the show, was also happy
in ing in our real lives. And there was that
really like those nice moments and yeah, of art imitating life.
(57:11):
And that must have felt cool to as a writer,
to be like I can naturally and authentically write about this. Yeah,
and Finkland Barrel like we've been waiting, thank you somebody
having baby on the show? Um wait said the more
do you want to set up our our last question
that we ask, Yes, indeed I do. Um so love.
(57:32):
This is a little segment of our show which we
call Nick's Box, um um. And this is the part
of the show where we crawl into the back of
Nick's closet and pull out memories that the cast and
crew of New Girl have kept hidden for years. So love.
Rocky what's your favorite memory from your time working on
(57:56):
New Girl? And please do not say the time I
had the bubble guts and we don't remember, you don't
remember about it. I mean I think I think the
thing that I've already said on the record is not
even a memory of mine, could not be my favorite memory. Man.
(58:24):
I mean there's just so much, um you know, I
mean New Girl is like working on the show was
such an all encompassing thing. Um, you know, you like
that's you know, like some of my closest friends are
you know, the writers on that show to this day. Um.
(58:47):
So it's like there's like life memories, there's like professional
memories and like you know, like there was like and
there's like there's memories of like insane hardship like that,
like the Jesse and Julia episode, which I think is
like our best episode. I had to stay at the
(59:09):
office from like Monday morning to Wednesday afternoon. I literally
did not go home for four my god. Um. And
at one point was that the week before was that
after Table Read? And then or was that while we
were shooting it? No, that was that was the table week.
So like it was you know the table the table
(59:31):
read was Tuesday, and you know we had to push
the table to Wednesday. But like, you know, we're like
I remember, like Monday night, like you know, Finkl and
Baron Lizzen already been habitually sleeping at the office. We
had some very hard working raiders who were who were
(59:54):
sleeping in the office because they were too tired to
drive home. I know. I mean, especially now the way
that people are talking about, you know, what level of
hard work is required to make TV. It looks a
lot different, but you know it's just like you have
this like sense of mission and so literally like that
Monday night, I was like, well, I like I don't know.
(01:00:18):
It was the Tuesday where you know, we had kind
of like finally assembled, like you know, Liz send in
like her part of the story, and we like put
the whole thing together, and there was like a little
bit of time off. Um, but it was like from
like five pm to eight pm, and we're like at
the Fox lot, and I like lived on the East Side,
(01:00:39):
so it's like I can't I would love to go
home and take a shower, um, but I can't. So
I guess I will just take a shower at the
Fox gym and go to the Gap at the Century
City mall and like buy new underwear in socks and
(01:01:00):
like as I was get a burrito. As I was
heading out, I was like, does anyone want anything from
the Gap and think it was like, can you get
me some jeans? I was like, I was the fake offer.
I don't like really purchase. I thought maybe could sucks,
(01:01:20):
but it's really hard to buy Eugene, what's your size? Yeah?
And so I bought thinkle some jeans at the Gap
with my time off. So that was a memory. Um.
I just feel like I just feel like on that break,
the errands, the clothes shopping, you could have went home,
could have gone, could just in the car, think about
(01:01:43):
make it back on time you go? They have a
glass of water turned back in the car. Yeah, Like
if that makes sense? Man needed some fresh and I wouldn't.
I would have done it if I could. I wasn't like,
let me like look at option carefully. I was like,
I'm hoping that there's a way that makes sense. And
(01:02:06):
I was like it it just doesn't. Um. But you
know there were there were you know, a table read
that I really loved was parking spot that was really
really fun. And it also was like, you know, when
(01:02:26):
so you have these bullets like the douchebag jar, you
have all of this romantic tension between Nick and Jess
and when you and you want to fire those bullets carefully,
but you got to fire them at some point. So
we fired that one and then you're nervous because you're like, what,
like what do we have when we don't have that
tension anymore. So it was like really gratifying that, you
(01:02:47):
know that that episode was clicking um. And that was
another one that we kind of like wrote by the
seat of our pants, and then there were other like
you know, when I wasn't there for the last season,
I thought, I was like I just love I love
the finale so much, and I was like watching it
(01:03:10):
as like an audience member, and it was so perfect.
I mean, I just I really it was like, you know,
like to take like the true American motif and like
translate that into like all these characters like having a
family life still all being together. What more do you want?
(01:03:33):
Oh my god? Yeah? Perfect? Yeah, you're a joy and
a delight, as are you and a love and a dad? Yeah?
Are you going to hang out with circling back that
(01:03:53):
that house that we shut in was where we had
so many COVID shutdowns as fall and we had so
we will never never go back to that house. It's
like a hazmat situation. Oh yeah, yeah, as a shooting
(01:04:16):
in a crack house. Come on, get your budget higher.
For the record, Lamaren lives in a very nice home. Yeah,
but the house across the street not so much. This side,
Orange's got a nice amount of curb space, so we
can park all sorts of quarter right in front of
his house and he has all sorts of cameras to
(01:04:39):
watch you. The bad part about this whole liscenario we
can just drop it because you guys keep talking about
it and stupid, but they bring it. They bring these
pamp these like forms to fill out, you know, and
say hey, can we shoot in front of your house?
And I'm thinking, okay, I have a nice house. Yeah,
you guys can use my like that part if you
(01:05:00):
want to. I'm not asking for any money. Great, and
some neighbors asked for money. I said no, it's just fine,
just shoot your show and you put the goddamn Porter
parties in front of my house. I was so offended.
And upset. You got to teach people how to treat
you little more. I know I want that, guy, Cash.
(01:05:25):
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Ring ring ring ring. May I please speak with Zoe. Oh, hello, Lamarne.
Let's patch in Hannah. God, I forgot what it was
like working with you guys. Hello, and welcome to Welcome
(00:30):
to our show. Welcome to I'm Zoe. We have Lamourne
and Hannah here and a very very special guest, Love Roquet,
one of our amazing um writer producers on the show.
And he was there with us from day one, day one,
(00:51):
and it and it feels like you haven't left, like
you never left. Well he was stalking you, Lamuren. So
that was that was that that part of his Have
we addres staid already? I'm sorry for my tardiness. We
have addressed anything. Ye. Um, Well I want to address
two things. Well, while we get while we got you here,
(01:11):
well there's an agenda procedure, but all right, you'd like
to jump right. I looked at my cameras one day,
my security cameras, and uh, this is for the folks
at home who don't you know, don't know love love
like most people drop stucees from time to time, and
(01:33):
I go, I check my security camera one day, Um,
this is a real story and I have photos to
prove it. I feel like you need so much more context.
We will we will go we'll go backwards to to
click to clean up the story. But I checked my
security cameras. There are porta potties outside of my house,
(01:55):
and who is standing there? Now? If I were telling
the story, I would try to let the audience know
that there are porta potties in front of your house
and why and then maybe say like, I have security
cameras pointed outside my house and yeah, but that's me.
You know, law Rocket is a really good writer. We
(02:15):
should probably listen to him story. Yeah, well, he's going
to tell the story in a very sitcoming way. I
was going to tell it in a very HBO way.
That's what I'm doing. Yeah, yeah, but anyways, elevating, it's
(02:36):
just dirt, got some f bombs and like the like
the nineties era. I'm gonna tell you, Yeah, I'm gonna
tell you. What I know is that Lamourn sometimes has
people who maybe rent out their house for productions, um
next door to him or across the street, neighbors established.
(03:00):
In fact, I would say yeah, and that and that
when you have a production, there's there there's lots of
trucks and things equipment that need to be brought in
and um, one of those kinds of trailer trucks. There's
no there's no shock value, there's no shock value. Might
get to the shock. We need to build well. And
(03:23):
one of those things is a porta potty and Love
um was working on a show. He was there, Um
as a writer producer. I'm assuming and um, you know, overseeing,
you know all the words that people are saying. And
he had to go to the bathroom. We don't know
whether it was one or two. Only Love knows that.
(03:45):
I think probably know that because he has the time steps.
But yeah, so yeah, what was it number one? You
know when to tell me on the production. It also
could be a third option where you're just in their
hiding from responsibilities. That's true. That yeah, I mean I
(04:12):
think that's the place you would trea bad set if
if if the porta potties a step up and it's
like a refuge from from the set. But but but
you know, I listen, I do apologize about dropping the
bomb first before I established the setting. Yes, they were
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filming a TV show, Yes against storytelling, not against me so,
but but the folks out there who tuned out immediately
left knowing and now we all have to lie in it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
I mean we could do another intro now if you want,
(04:53):
because everyone well our show talking to the best producer
right in the whole town. Yeah, yeah, girl questions. Maybe
you guys, you guys can't see this, but love is
rocking the smooth this mustache that I've seen it is
(05:14):
a very smooth, like Bollywood hero level. Thank you. Oh yeah,
you're definitely on a Bollywood poster right now, right now
with a one eyebrow up and and you're you're you're
showing us that you're the romantic lead. Yeah. I don't
meet said you're wooing with some dances. I'm just trying
(05:35):
to diversify putting out there in Hollywood and just throwing
it out there for everybody. An this is a leftover
from my gomez Adam's Halloween. It looks great because I
was more Titia and I thought I would just keep
(05:56):
it going for a little while. He's enjoying it. Yeah,
you you are giving me rawle. Julia well, Julia vibes. Yeah,
that's what she looked like. That's what I was aiming at.
You nailed it. Thank you nailed it. Thank you. Um
So you were with us from pretty much the very
very beginning, as soon as there were writers hired. I
(06:19):
heard your name from our wonderful as Merryweather. I remember
her saying that she had gotten this amazing writer, um
named Love Rocke who had been on It's what was
Sunny in Philadelphia with my brother in law David Hornsby,
um um and um so I was, you know, I
(06:40):
remember being like, who is this Love Rockue? First of all?
Amazing name and m do you remember the first episode
that you wrote? Of course? Of course in fact there
I think as a as a parting gift, I have
to this little painting right here, not painting, framed piece
(07:00):
of work. There are two pages from that script that
Liz Bretton Dave gave me, um when you know, a
graduation gift. So that episode was Bells Bell fantastic episode.
The episode I got injured on one of the many yeah,
(07:27):
which Lamourn was always injuring himself in unconventional ways and
spice things up. That was like one of those um
kind of like you know, wear and tear from from
practicing bells so much. His wrist. Fun fact. Fun fact
both my wrists are still dainty, still very injured. And
(07:50):
I would like to say that Bells had something to
do with it. I think you've got a case. Think
some time to get paid, time to give. Who are
you going to sue Love? Sounds like mereborn child? You
(08:14):
want another kid? Lam? Sure, yeah, if you you pay,
you pay for the kid's cute's very cute's Yeah. It
was sharp Love taking all the way back. So how
did you connect with Liz Brett Dave? How did they
convince you to be on a completely untested, brand new show. Um, well,
(08:37):
I mean, you know there there's just kind of the
straightforward answer is you know these things are you know,
arranged by agents, and they're just like scripts that are
like they sent, you know, like someone submits you and
they read your script and they're like, all right, we
like this guy, we like the script. Let's meet the
guy I met there was like a first meeting with
(09:00):
one of our other producers, pubven shettyn is awesome. Cleared
that bar um and then got through that guy. Yeah
he tried but he failed. He's like, here's here's going
(09:21):
to be um and uh and then you know I
and then I met with Liz bretton Dave. It didn't
take very much convincing because they screened the pilot, which
I think is it is just one of the great
(09:42):
comedy pilots of the last twenty years for sure. I
mean it just kind of it's pretty electrifying still, I think, um,
and I've gone back to watch it every now and then.
It's like, this is just really really good. You kind
of get every one. It's really funny, it's about something.
(10:03):
So you know, it was a one way convincing. We're
kind of like at the end of that, we're both
we're all like mutually convinced and just like enjoying each
other's company or like you're great, you're great, you're great, um,
one of those types of things. And then you know
the ride began and why already gave you bells and
(10:27):
then yeah, area of expertise, so yeah, how experienced were
you at playing the bells? As we know that that
it came from experience, very experienced, um, from all of
my church. You know, the genesis of that episode was
(10:49):
that you know that was gonna be that was like
our first like let's constant, let's really like do a
winsome story. Um. And the kernel of that one was
we want to have like a jest thing that she's
really into, and she's like, I want to invite Winston
(11:11):
into this because he seems interested in it, but then
he like starts to dominate it. Um. And initially that
was going to be a much inferior idea. There's going
to be like a TV discussion group that Jess was
in for a fake version of Downton Abbey called Cramdell Lane.
(11:33):
Oh god, I remember this so well. I remember the
original version because I remember, yeah, because everyone was obsessed
with Downton Abbey at that time, which I still called
Downtown Abbey. I think that. I think at the moment
we knew that Lamar was going to call it Downtown Abbey,
were like, I think we should do something more visual.
(11:57):
I know a few Downtown Abbeys. Let me tell you
she's downtown and her name is that I got um
but yeah, that was what was it called Crandall Lane Lane.
(12:17):
There was gonna be a theme song to the tune
of Purple Rain. Um uh and uh. But yeah, I
don't I don't remember where the bell's detail came from. Um.
But you know, somebody wanted to injure Lamourn's risk. Yeah,
it was literally instrument. Those things look like the radio pop.
(12:43):
It's kind of like a light kettle bell. You know,
when you first started, I'll start off as an actor
and you you you put your list of skills at
the bottom of your resume. Maybe you guys saw my
first resume. Handbells definitely was on there, hand bells thinking
of those humiliating, repetitive stress puzzles. Um. Yes, And then
(13:09):
you did this one that I just I feel like,
I feel like, did you write like a favor number
in season one? I feel like you wrote like four
or five? Is that? Yeah? They were. They just kind
of kept circling back to my plate um. And so yeah,
I did. I did a bunch in season Is that correct?
I did not do that, Okay, but you did the
(13:31):
you did the Schmidt's Birthday party though, right, Yes, the
Story of the fifty Story of the Fifty. Yeah, yeah,
okay did that one Story of the Fifty. I literally
just watched and it's so funny, and I remember it
morphed a fair amount because we had a lot of
stuff thrown at us, like, um, the fog that day
(13:53):
we were shooting on a mountaintop. We're supposed to be
able to see all of l a lushly decorated mount
We could see for miles and and as soon as
we like all truck up there with all of our
trucks of various kinds, that's been discussed already and we're like,
you guys killed. Its beautiful, beautiful location and the set
(14:15):
deck is stunning, and I think I believe the theme
was Tuscany. Uh yeah, that's right, Tuscany. Yeah. And then
for you know, the just just curated party right right right,
which is why the sharkuti makes sense when you hear
it later, but not when you don't know. I mean,
it makes sense of course people serve that at parties.
(14:36):
But but it was like it was all themed in
because Jess is you know. But then it couldn't be
Tuscany because we had a thick marine layer that just
rolled in a start like you could barely see like
three ft in front of you, let alone like the
entire city of l Yes, it suddenly was like, oh,
this is a student film. Was I in this episode?
(15:00):
I did not recall this one. You're in the episode.
But what I just realized is Yeah, I was not
in Bells and I was not in the Story of
the fifty And I remember being so excited hearing that
there was an Indian writer that had been hired for
the show. And I feel like every episode that you wrote,
we were kept apart apart, there's too many of us
(15:21):
by our families. It's a real Romeo Juliet. Yeah. If
if it hadn't been for that, you guys might be
married at this point. And that's what everyone was talking
about on set. That was the crazy thing. The first
(15:42):
quote Leanna love would be like they would fall in
love and yeah, but I can't read it right around
right around, Well maybe after Bells. No, No, then he's
going to do a story. Yeah. Another area have expertise
for you writing just douchebag jokes NonStop? Is that an
(16:05):
easy thing for you? You know? I know, you know,
writing for certain characters, some of it comes from inside
of you experience, whatever the case may be. Writing for
a character like Schmidt in particular, probably TV's favorite douche
bag of all time? Is that? Is that something that
was easy for you? Is that something that comes from
people you know? Yeah? Really easy? Um, you know, I
(16:35):
think I don't know. I guess I friends with a
lot of douche bags, you know, that was That's one
of those terms. I guess people just kind of say
bros now or I don't know what they say. That
type has certainly been around forever. They don't go away
you think they will, and then they won't like a
(16:55):
bad penny, They're just like like shark teeth, there's just
the old ones fall out and that there's just a
million new ones right there. There's a new social climber
with vocabulary full of like shortened words. I think, I think,
honestly like a lot of like it's always sunny type
(17:18):
of maybe not specifically the jokes, but like that aggressive
point of view, uh relent itself to Schmidt jokes. Yeah,
and there's just like a fun like it too Schmidt too,
you know. And then also you know, Max just like
(17:42):
grabs such a hold of that character. You could it
was just very clear what a Schmidt joke would be. Yeah,
it's funny. I like, I remember being there were certain
I think it was like season two where I got
the feeling that the writers were really tired, because sometimes
I would get jokes and I'd be like this is
clearly a Schmitt joke. And then I remember calling up
(18:06):
Listen being like, um, you met this first Schmitt right,
and she was like, oh, I mean yeah maybe, And
I was like, yeah, that's a Schmitt joke. Like there
would be like it's so clear what a Schmitt joke is.
You know, Liz, you're having me mispronounced potpourri. That's for
those out there who don't know what potpourri is. It
(18:26):
can all It can sometimes be used as an air
freshener in bathrooms, supporta potties, things that we're just calling
it back. Well you know what we're speaking about. Ive
never seen anyone put potpouri in a in a porta potty,
but really, Poopouri? Have you heard of poopoury? This episode
is brought to Poopouri because I might have to get
(18:54):
them to sponsor the show and just have lamour and
only do Yeah, the Girl Podcast sponsored lad Yeah. But look,
there's a reason why I bring that up because you
know on that episode there, um I had yeah, but yeah,
but love has nothing to do. But we're gonna bring
(19:17):
it back up. I can memories. It stirs in me. Yes,
there was a memory that that that I wanted to
ask if you remember you hear about this didn't travel
back to the writer's room. Well, that's actually I believe
was season two, and I don't think I was season one,
season one Christmas episode the Houses. Yeah, Candy Kane Lane,
(19:42):
Candy Kane Lane, so on Candy Cane Lane Lamar had
an accident and incident, an incident. That's why I was
wondering if you had heard it. But I'm glad the writers.
I guess nobody talked, no one went no one went
back and want it's okay, love? Can you honestly get
(20:02):
off the subject? Bro? Like explosive, I'm hearing some kind
of love Lauren had a or something. Zoe. We've been
asking you this whole episode to stop talking about porta potties,
infernal injuries, injuries. Love. I had to go really really bad,
(20:23):
that's all I was just And I thought me and
you were brothers in in that and was like, not
set didn't write the episode of like nine years ago.
You heard the story of what I had to poop
bad on set Like this is how we're using our time.
Oh hey, I've been dying to ask you did you
(20:43):
hear about when love you gotta stop, man, you gotta
stop you making me blues moving on. No, I think
the confidentiality of the set protected you until now now
everyone knows, and that's that's what I appreciated about New
Girl Welcome. We have spoke to Mammoth and he was saying,
(21:18):
how or we told him? So you told him right
that I had heard that Mammoth was like like really
like good at um writing jazz lines. Was there a
character that you felt like you were really like that,
like you're just like that's like super easy for me,
Like I'm really good at writing, like you know, Winston
or CC or Jazz or Schmidt or Nick. Was there
(21:42):
somebody or do you feel like you're more of like
all around? Uh? I think it was all around, all
around her type. Yeah, and I enjoyed them all. I mean,
I think it's no secret that we like didn't really
figure out Winston until later. Interesting, So you know, I
think I think we're kind of like I first you
(22:04):
were like, he's really good at stuff, and then when
you is that he's so good at everything that it's irritated,
and then you're like, oh no, actually he's just the
nerd who love puzzles. Yeah, that's yeah, that's what it
took to you know, sometimes you've got to start a
(22:27):
couple of fires and see which one goes. And I
became your favorite to write for it. That's amazing, absolutely absolutely,
thank you. So many avenues to pursue. So you were
with us from the beginning to the end. You took
a break, though, right, you went off and did another
show for a second. Yeah, yeah, I took it. I
took I didn't do season four. Um, and then I
(22:52):
wasn't a part of the last season either. And then
I guess also at the beginning of season two, I
was very intermittent presence. You were on you were on
It's So Sunny Too at the same time, right, so
because there they were on like a different schedule because
they were like a cable show, so you you were
able to do both. But um, but yeah, we we
missed you a little bit in there. And then where
(23:16):
did you go to season four? Season four? I I
was I'm trying to think of the most distinct way
to tell this story, but basically I know where you went.
We I was I had created a show with the
Sunny Guys or Tracy Morgan, Oh oh yeah, and um,
(23:38):
but but you know that's when his accident happened. Oh
my gosh. So it was you know, very very sad
and just an awful accident. And then one of the
less important outcomes of that was you know that that
show was kind of put on ice for a little while, um,
(24:01):
but then eventually resurrected under different people or different network
and it's it's the show The Last o G which
is still on Love Tracy Morgan. So I get why
you left us, and it's always sunny. People are absolutely amazing,
So I understand, but we missed you. I came running
(24:22):
and we came back, came back. We were like and
we came we were like open arms. Yeah. I noticed
that when you left, our ratings kept from dropping. Yeah weird.
Our ratings dropped and they were like, we need more love.
We need this guy who likes to write for all
of them, Yeah, this master of all trades. Do you
(24:42):
have a standout episode for you that was the most
challenging to write? Uh? Yeah, I think I think it was.
I think it was also the best us just Jess
and Julia. Oh, I love that episode. That one was.
(25:05):
I can't wait to talk about that episode. Let's talk
about it. I mean, that was that that was inspired
by like real stuff that was going on at the time. Yes,
kind of go ahead, sorry, no, no, you go ahead.
You go ahead because I want to hear from your well.
I mean, you know, the show was a big breakout hit,
(25:27):
but there was like a lot of conversation about like
where what the Jess character meant for feminism and so um,
you know, like we usually I think it's my best
practice to not read too much about like what people
(25:49):
are saying about a show, but it was kind of unignorable,
and we were like, let's take this head on. Yeah,
and we don't. I mean, I think a lot of
the criticism was like ended up kind of being directed
at me personally, Zoe, you know, and it was kind
(26:12):
of interesting because I think it actually that episode allowed
like us as a show to make a very good point,
which is something I've kind of like always been saying.
It's like why do you care what I like? You know, Like,
why do you care if I like, you know, to
craft or you know that I like things that are
(26:33):
traditionally associated like with you know, like I'm not saying
that girls should like pink and purple and sparkles. But
just because I like something like that means nothing in
terms of like, you know, you know who I am,
you know, as a you know, it doesn't mean that
I can't be a feminist. Why why I be strong
(26:54):
and like those things? Just like this is the I
like irock, I rock a lot of polka dots, right, Yes,
exactly was given and I loved how you guys tackled
it because it was it was it kind of because
the Julia character is a great character, and she's totally
cool and awesome, and then you know the fact that
Julia kind of misunderstands Jess, and that Jess has the
(27:16):
opportunity to, in a very articulate way, say you know
her piece. I thought that was just such a great
and it was such a great way that it was
you know done too. It was just yeah, and if
you were I mean, that was an episode that I
co wrote with Liz, and Liz was very fired up
(27:38):
about about the whole thing, which was fantastic, and I honestly,
I think like what you're talking about is definitely one
of the core elements of the episode. But I think
the reason that it landed is that it was in
the story that was it was really like, you know,
(27:59):
you always wanted a show. It's great for you don't
have to have it, but it's great for a show
to have some kind of thesis statement of like here's
what I here's what I see in the world. This
is so you know, Liz's thesis statement with New Girl
was always about like here's how I see modern generals, um.
(28:21):
And I think what was really cool about that episode
was that, like that conversation about feminism was a part
of a story where um, the characters were all kind
of posturing and dealing with like the demands of traditional
general gender roles, um and struggling with that. So Julia,
(28:42):
who was you know, a lawyer and kind of thought
of herself as a certain uh you know, was okay
in addition to kind of um have being a judgment
about a certain style of clothing or presentation or whatever,
(29:07):
also had like a kind of a spill over a
judgment that she hadn't thought about about emotionality, and so
she was very guarded and she was like, you know,
like Nick, you know, Nick says too, just um, yeah,
we don't you know, we don't want to do the
labels thing. And just kind of with her emotional intelligence
(29:29):
consume through that and then turns out to be right,
especially when anyway, I feel like I'm getting like a
little I want to hear that. No, no, no, it's
so good because I don't remember it well, you know,
Jess and Julia had if you if you watch it again,
it's like the characters all have like the scope of
(29:52):
the episode. I can't believe it's all like jammed into
one episode. It feels like a movie because well more
and that was like you're leave that was your Shelby episode.
I believe that was the beginning of that was it? Really?
Do think? So the Shelby Cally Hawk wonderful Cally Hawk. Yeah,
(30:15):
this is where this is like you know, Winston was like,
you know, too cocky with her and and has to
kind of be brought down a peg. But I but
I think that was the same episode, which is kind
of like that's a lot of story a lot in
twenty one minutes. Second, is that also the Ribbon Hat episode? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(30:41):
good of having your girls back. Well, that's that's kind
of like I think what was really like the legs
on that episode that you know, like Julia was like
a a kind of person who was kind of you know,
suspicious of a certain way of carrying yourself as a woman,
(31:05):
but also had these liabilities and kind of you know,
she didn't have female friendships and maybe had you know,
some suspicion about that. And it was great that just
like not only in a you know, could we could
like show her having great female friendships, you know, supportive
and kind of really engaging with each other. And that
(31:26):
was like enticing and inviting to Juliana. Like the best
best moment for me for that episode is after like
the big confrontation to ingested Julia at the courthouse, that
Julia comes to apologize to just um and then sees
that she's with her girlfriends and feels like, oh that
(31:48):
might be like hostile energy and then justice like no
commit And I was like that was and that was
written by Kim Rosenstock that scene, Um, and it was great.
Yeah Kim is it's not great, another great writer that
we had on on the show. Um. Yeah, I really
love that episode. What a what a definitely mini movie there.
(32:10):
There are a lot of episodes on New Girl that
I would call like many movies. Um, and that is
definitely one of them. Well, you know, I also think
that like we I think, you know, in the initial
sort of like what are we doing? Were where I think,
(32:34):
you know, we kind of everyone burned themselves out running
at that high gear for so long. But you kind
of make some unconventional choices that that do that are
that expect more of the audience. Like if you talk
about like the introduction of the Julia character, she was
introduced in a way that you never would have done
(32:54):
in latter seasons. You you just kind of dropped the
audience into the fact that, like Nick has been dating
someone and has not brought her around, and that's the first,
that's the first that the audience even hears about her.
I thought I'd missed a scene, Like I thought I'd
missed a scene when I watched that episode. I like
the way it happened, Yeah, because it's kind of like, oh,
(33:16):
they have this thing established. And also I think I
think Jake already knew Lizzy, so they kind of had
a rapport that felt familiar anyway, you know, maybe they'd
work together, they you know, just knew each other and
and so like I felt like that the scene, the
first scene you see them together in the in the
story of the fifty Um. They you know, they feel
(33:39):
like they they're people, have been on a few dates
and there they have a rapport. And I think what
was also great about that drop into UM was that
it made you feel like how Winston and Jess and
everybody else must have felt, which is like, wait a minute,
I know these people intimately. I watched this show. I
know these character rs and like, who's that right? And
(34:02):
you got you all the same feeling as the other
characters when they're just like why don't you bringing her around?
You embarrassed us, Like why didn't I know about this name? Yeah?
And he was like yeah. But it's also I think
it's more real for the audience. You know, like, look
like there is a presentational style to TV and especially
(34:23):
half our TV, and you're kind of like, you know,
that sort of stuff is rare on network sitcoms, but
you know that was such a different era ten years ago,
you know, UM, And I think some of the audiences
therefore to like, yeah, we're like willing to be a
(34:44):
little more immersed and we appreciate it when the story
is like giving me credit and trying to feel real
instead of just being like, hey, here's the information you
need to understand the episode. Ready. Yeah, I prefer to
(35:05):
see you know, even in a sitcom, you have to like,
you know, lay out some exposition. But the more creative
you can be in giving the exposition is the better.
And and also the less the better. And I definitely
think that there was a real effort me to kind
of avoid like those like very conventional ways of like
(35:28):
giving people details backstory. Yeah, speaking of non conventional ways
to tell stories. You're working on a show now called
Dave Love, Dave Love Dave Chelan. That is that is you, guys,
(35:48):
don't already watch it. Do yourself a favor. Run don't walk.
Don't I mean you don't have to run. That can
get pretty dangerous. You can make it run to you
do it runs here, I mean it's streaming everywhere. Fingers
on the remote stream it stream it gets Use those yeah,
(36:12):
use those Nintendo fingers. Nintendo still exists. Can we just
talk about this for one second, because it was the
way you knew we were on a huge sound stage.
There's so many people, so many corners, but you always
knew if Love was on set because he's got the
most easily identifiable laugh. Yeah you've ever heard, and you
(36:35):
would always hear it, And for me, it was always
like the best of failing, because you're like, come up here,
it's a jolly and delightful laugh. Or if the lights
are off and you're watching one of those conjuring type films,
can also be considered Yeah, sorry, we're talking about that.
(36:58):
It cannot be muffled. I gotta say like, I loved
it when takes were ruined because of laughing, because I'm like,
this means we got something going on here. You know.
I remember the first season seeing the boom shaking and
looking over on our boom operator was laughing so hard
they could barely keep the boom still. Um, well, let's
let's let's yeah, let's talk about Dave for a second. Yeah,
(37:20):
let's talk about Dave. We we love the show to
talk about Dave. How did you find your way to Dave?
You know, it's the same old, same old, boring story.
Um that you know. My agent was like, do you
know about Little Dicky? And I was like, I know,
I'm old now, and he's like, let me let me
(37:41):
tell you. Um And you know, um, Dave bird a
k little Dicky has been kind of making videos like
just these insanely viral, super funny but like great music
also videos for several years and and so it's like, wow, yeah,
(38:06):
I definitely got to meet this guy. And so you know,
we started making the show, and I think the big
surprise on Dave was just like the level of emotionality.
I mean, I you know, you just the first season
to show you just really you have a pilot, you know,
which tells you a lot, but but then you have
(38:28):
a lot to figure out and you don't always know,
like you know what whenever. I mean, you guys all
know this, Like you know, when you like go to
pitch a show, you like pretend like you like have
the whole thing. I've got it, but I'm not gonna
tell you here's what's gonna happen. It's going to end.
And then you know, everyone talks about like when your
(38:50):
show actually if you you know, I don't even know
if they make pilots these days or just straight to series,
which seems even more daunting. But then you're like, all right,
I have to actually do this now, um, and you
don't know, you have to feel it out. Um. Always
straight to series with me yea with Lam it's different
(39:10):
than the well yeah, green light, green light Morris, that's
what they call them. Go go go. Thanks, thanks for saying.
They just have a bank account ready that's just full
of money for Lauren. Real gold, real gold, yeah, real gold.
(39:33):
What is that? It's full, it's actually full. It's not
a bank account. It's like screws holding up gold coin
swimming pool. Yeah yeah, Lamurn is holding an award. I
don't know what it is, but it's definitely real good.
It's the Rose Door Award for Comedy for Unintentional Comedy
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for Woke for Um, which is also one with you
get your WHO subscriptions. Get it in order, guys. Make
sure don't let it lapse. Make sure it's up to
date so you can watch all of Woke and all
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of Dave because there's some people who are talented behind
these shows. I have to just share with you love
because I don't know if we've ever talked about it
since it happened. One of my favorite love moments on
set also goes to show why representation matters on set.
But they were we were shooting the episode where Schmidt
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has broken his penis and he's coming to meet my grandmother.
And we were just like hanging out at video village
kicking it and we're like, who did you get to
play with the grandmother? And they were still like we're
still looking. We're still looking anyway, and I'll never forget
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it was. I think it was Liz sitting there with
a bunch of people. Do you remember this, and they
were like, oh, yeah, we should. We just found someone. Um,
she's super great, She's gonna be great. She's flying out
here from New York. Her name is mad Madder Matt
And both you and I in Unison went, you're not
(41:23):
going to say mother, Joffrey are There's no way you
can't have bother Joffrey And we both had these meltdowns
and had to like fully deep dive into what in
like a legend of a woman she is. And I
remember like being emotional and like I could not believe
that she was going to come and play this role.
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This woman is going to have a masterclass in six
years ago. Cookie, you don't understand, like Queen DOULI a child.
I was like, what is happening? And then I dawned
on me and I remember looking at you was like
I'm going to meet this woman that I have known
and loved my whole life from Afar, and I have
to sit at a table with her and talk about
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a broken dick. See that's the thing. That's the thing.
There's always a catch. There's always at It's like they're like,
we're gonna get your hero here, and you know, yeah,
you can ask her questions about, you know, whatever you want,
but once the cameras rolling, you're gonna have to talk
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to her about a proven day. And I remember feeling
so you know, when you're like in and out of
your body at the same time, like I was in
the scene, but I'm also like, you're am sitting with
mother Joffrey. This is amazing, And I remember, I guess
that's where Schmidt's character learns that um being emotional like
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turns him on. And it's very painful because he's in
a cast. So we had to make these noises of
excruciating pain of realizing he was in love. And it's
Max And I'll never forget I was so in and
out of the scene. I'm looking at her and I
have this insane will the beast next to me making
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these crazy sounds in front of this woman that I'm
trying to be respectful within our culture, especially to be like,
she's this woman I just want to you know, I'm
trying to like hold myself to this high regard. Anyway,
it was one of those I remember laughing so hard
because I was so uncomfortable and nervous and he was
so funny that I cried all my makeup off, all
my lashes off. I crawled under the table to try
(43:38):
to compose myself during the scene. And we always want
to give a quick bio of mad Their Jeoffrey so
that everybody to enlighten anybody who doesn't know her her.
She's a legend. She's a legend. She's double double threat.
I'm sure she has many other threats, but she's at
like a world class level with two things. She's an actor,
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but as Hannah was saying, she's also like the Julia
child of Indian cooking. Especially it's like most recognizable ambassador
to the Western world. So you know, even like the
certainly I don't know when when she started, but certainly
like as early is the eighties, was kind of like
here's Indian cooking, and I want to bring it to
(44:23):
to the West. And an iconic film star. I mean,
she's just absolutely she's incredible. And her daughter, Zecchina Geoffrey,
it's also as incredible actress. And there wasn't you know,
there's not a lot of us out there that we're
kind of breaking through. There's a lot of us out there.
But but it was a huge moment. And I just
(44:47):
remember you and I locking eyes and like you getting
it and then that it was just like a really
great moment for me. I don't know, but my parents
were there for that scene. They had they had come
to visit oh my, and so they're excited. They were
so excited. But this exact same and like the exact
(45:07):
same feelings you're talking about. It was just like, you know,
how I paid my bills? Like this is let me,
let me set the scene for you. What do you
need to know in order to understand this scene? His
(45:28):
dick broke broke his dick from violent sex. I mean,
you guys are familiar with this, right thing, right the
thing everybody knows about this, and you're having to get
a huge direction in this scene. Yeah, it's gonna be
gonna make a lot of noises. And the noises are
(45:50):
going to interrupt a lovely scene. Yeah, that was where
my parents like as soon as as soon as they
started shooting, they both were like did their personalities like
so perfectly to a tiem. My mom was like, immediately
(46:12):
starts pitching lines and he's like, what I think Schmidt
said like this, and then my dad shushes her and
demonstrates like a knowledge of coverage that I had no
idea he knew. He was like, it's not sci started right,
just not shoots turned right now. Scy sterned later and
(46:37):
m and then Kim Rosenstock was there, who had just started,
like you know, still pretty early in her and she
was like, oh, like that's coverage. Tell me more, that's
amazing writer directors in your blood. Yeah, I was typing
in mother Jeoffrey because I was going to give a
profound explanation of who she was. However, yeah, well I
(47:02):
missed too long. Well yeah I misspelled her name, and
then uh seriously, Lanister came up mother of Joffrey and
I and then you went down at Wikipedia hole WI
we were all talking about to wow, so there's dragged Yeah. Yeah,
(47:26):
I'm a big Game of Thrones fans, so you know
I'm glad you brought that mother of Joffrey. Yea, oh
my goodness, Olcole speaking of unruly children love since you
(47:51):
were there from day one almost to the very end. No,
just the evolution of the show. I mean, very few
people get to it on something for you know, years
and years and years and watch this show kind of grow. Um,
I don't know, talk to us a little bit about that,
Just a little bit about watching the show, the story,
(48:12):
the characters. Yeah, you always have like a couple of
engines in the show that I mean, that's like a
clinical way of talking about it, but like a basic tension,
you know. Um. And I think with our show and
other kind of friends type shows, like one of them
(48:35):
is just like what you know, like how you know,
how are where are these characters gonna end up? And
how are they going to kind of transition? How are
they going to make the transition from like friend life
to family life. It's kind of like the basic journey
and certainly is the journey that we took our characters on. UM.
(48:57):
So that was like really gratify. I mean, I don't
know about you guys, but I think like between us
and like I don't know, like Brooklyn nine nine. I
don't know if we're going to see any more like
two episode shows go for that long, right, um So,
(49:23):
and I think that there's something that's like very immersive
about it at you know again, I always like reach
for these like ted talk type words, and all I
mean is that, like you know, the audiences has really
like loves the characters and feels like they know them
and they're they're real and you have just spent so
(49:45):
much time with them so you can kind of you
just get really invested in that journey and then you
have like a couple of little sign posts long the way,
Like I thought Max made a really great point when
and the it was like kind of a last second
idea for the Schmidt and CC wedding that the douchebag
(50:08):
jar be broken uh during the wedding ceremony and um
and he was like in a way that I don't
I'm not trying to cast his versions on Max, and
he is so surprised at such a pointed observation from him.
It was just like it's the strength of the observation.
(50:28):
He was just like, well, this is the end of
the Schmidt character story. Like that was like you know,
the douchebag jars, like what you see in the pilot,
like this is this character's issue. He like has a
heart of gold, but you know, for whatever reasons and
you know, his own journey that has been on, can't
(50:50):
control it. And when he finally conquers that, like that's
the end of his story. Um, And you know, I
mean I think that there's still there was still little
bit more story to be told for Schmidt. But that's
also true, Like that was like the you know, the
main journey that that character was on, and when you
(51:12):
end that, you end that that journey, and you know,
you try to come up with other ones. Um. And
you know there's been like overlapping ones in his story.
With his own family obviously is a source of of
that as well. But I just I was just really impressed.
Uh and and this kind of dumb struck by by
(51:35):
that observation. It's really true. So it was like great
to see. And then you know, like with with Jess,
I would be curious to know how you feel about
this Zoe. Um of like Jesse's career stories, I feel like,
(52:00):
uh that that would be one that I kind of
want back a little bit because I think we fell
prey to this like very American idea of like, oh,
you've got to climb the ladder, and somehow that resulted
in like just like wanting to be an administrator. And
it was a little bit like you, I thought, we
(52:22):
kind of like got up a tree on that because
it's like, is that that exciting, like, you know, visually comedically. Um,
I don't know, what do you think about that? That's interesting.
I hadn't actually thought of I hadn't actually thought of
it that way. I mean, I felt it more as
a comment on Jess still trying to find herself in
(52:46):
in a professional setting, that like that she's kind of
constantly searching. She's like like a middle school teacher, then
she teaches adults, and then she's you know, an administrator,
and she kind of like switches around a lot. Um.
I kind of took it more from that perspective. And
then I did like the contrast, you know, um, because
(53:09):
Jess is such a teacher, um. And then you know, um,
I did like the contrast of her kind of being
a little out of place as a principal. Um that
that she's kind of like a kid in a lot
of ways, and and what happens when you have this
(53:31):
character that's kind of a you know a bit you know,
it's very young at heart and then they're having to
do a very grown up job. But you know, I
I could see that, um but but from my perspective,
I didn't. It didn't bother me. I thought it was
just like you know, those those shifts you know, where
(53:54):
she's looking for a job, like those those kind of
those kind of moments you know, or those kind of
like parks were really great and um, you know kind
of created a lot of good episodes too, just like
where she's just in between jobs and totally totally and
I think, like, you know, the show obviously is tethered
(54:16):
to the idea of like is it is just going
to find happiness? You know? Um, And so that's definitely like,
you know, like finding that satisfaction in that part of
your life is part of it. Um. But you know
that was fun to tell, like a sprawling story about
(54:37):
you know, where you just spend so much years with
this character and like and you know, get to that
happy ending and then I think with you know, like
I think I think was I think that was kind
of ultimately the I don't know that's kind of like
(54:57):
ultimately the journey for all the care characters and probably
for like every character ever, especially like in Half hour TV,
And it's like something that's like you know when you're
like when you try to pitch it, they're like, what's
the exciting, crazy thing that that it's about, And it's
(55:19):
like I can kind of do that's like song and
dance of like, yeah, it's about this and and definitely
like this show was like through through Liz's lens, and
that's what was like exciting and interesting about it. But
ultimately the concept of what the characters are pursuing is
(55:41):
I mean, it's universal, but it sounds been out to
say they're pursuing happiness. But you know, like that it's
it's in the specifics of the execution and like are
like you know you're gonna blush, but like our absolutely
brilliant cast like just bringing these characters to life, um,
(56:01):
in like such specific ways, and like that's what you're
going for and are amazing writers. Well there were a lot,
so you know, but but um, you know, it's like
it's when you say it on paper, it sounds so
stupid and obvious. Um, but sometimes that's life. It's interesting too,
(56:27):
I feel like because we did it very kind words.
There's something too I felt at least was that because
we had so much time with the characters, and you know,
all the writers were in the same age group ish
as the cast was and the producers, and again we
(56:49):
spent so much time together that it was everybody kind
of went from like dating and then having families and
organically as was happening on the show, was also happy
in ing in our real lives. And there was that
really like those nice moments and yeah, of art imitating life.
(57:11):
And that must have felt cool to as a writer,
to be like I can naturally and authentically write about this. Yeah,
and Finkland Barrel like we've been waiting, thank you somebody
having baby on the show? Um wait said the more
do you want to set up our our last question
that we ask, Yes, indeed I do. Um so love.
(57:32):
This is a little segment of our show which we
call Nick's Box, um um. And this is the part
of the show where we crawl into the back of
Nick's closet and pull out memories that the cast and
crew of New Girl have kept hidden for years. So love.
Rocky what's your favorite memory from your time working on
(57:56):
New Girl? And please do not say the time I
had the bubble guts and we don't remember, you don't
remember about it. I mean I think I think the
thing that I've already said on the record is not
even a memory of mine, could not be my favorite memory. Man.
(58:24):
I mean there's just so much, um you know, I
mean New Girl is like working on the show was
such an all encompassing thing. Um, you know, you like
that's you know, like some of my closest friends are
you know, the writers on that show to this day. Um.
(58:47):
So it's like there's like life memories, there's like professional
memories and like you know, like there was like and
there's like there's memories of like insane hardship like that,
like the Jesse and Julia episode, which I think is
like our best episode. I had to stay at the
(59:09):
office from like Monday morning to Wednesday afternoon. I literally
did not go home for four my god. Um. And
at one point was that the week before was that
after Table Read? And then or was that while we
were shooting it? No, that was that was the table week.
So like it was you know the table the table
(59:31):
read was Tuesday, and you know we had to push
the table to Wednesday. But like, you know, we're like
I remember, like Monday night, like you know, Finkl and
Baron Lizzen already been habitually sleeping at the office. We
had some very hard working raiders who were who were
(59:54):
sleeping in the office because they were too tired to
drive home. I know. I mean, especially now the way
that people are talking about, you know, what level of
hard work is required to make TV. It looks a
lot different, but you know it's just like you have
this like sense of mission and so literally like that
Monday night, I was like, well, I like I don't know.
(01:00:18):
It was the Tuesday where you know, we had kind
of like finally assembled, like you know, Liz send in
like her part of the story, and we like put
the whole thing together, and there was like a little
bit of time off. Um, but it was like from
like five pm to eight pm, and we're like at
the Fox lot, and I like lived on the East Side,
(01:00:39):
so it's like I can't I would love to go
home and take a shower, um, but I can't. So
I guess I will just take a shower at the
Fox gym and go to the Gap at the Century
City mall and like buy new underwear in socks and
(01:01:00):
like as I was get a burrito. As I was
heading out, I was like, does anyone want anything from
the Gap and think it was like, can you get
me some jeans? I was like, I was the fake offer.
I don't like really purchase. I thought maybe could sucks,
(01:01:20):
but it's really hard to buy Eugene, what's your size? Yeah?
And so I bought thinkle some jeans at the Gap
with my time off. So that was a memory. Um.
I just feel like I just feel like on that break,
the errands, the clothes shopping, you could have went home,
could have gone, could just in the car, think about
(01:01:43):
make it back on time you go? They have a
glass of water turned back in the car. Yeah, Like
if that makes sense? Man needed some fresh and I wouldn't.
I would have done it if I could. I wasn't like,
let me like look at option carefully. I was like,
I'm hoping that there's a way that makes sense. And
(01:02:06):
I was like it it just doesn't. Um. But you
know there were there were you know, a table read
that I really loved was parking spot that was really
really fun. And it also was like, you know, when
(01:02:26):
so you have these bullets like the douchebag jar, you
have all of this romantic tension between Nick and Jess
and when you and you want to fire those bullets carefully,
but you got to fire them at some point. So
we fired that one and then you're nervous because you're like, what,
like what do we have when we don't have that
tension anymore. So it was like really gratifying that, you
(01:02:47):
know that that episode was clicking um. And that was
another one that we kind of like wrote by the
seat of our pants, and then there were other like
you know, when I wasn't there for the last season,
I thought, I was like I just love I love
the finale so much, and I was like watching it
(01:03:10):
as like an audience member, and it was so perfect.
I mean, I just I really it was like, you know,
like to take like the true American motif and like
translate that into like all these characters like having a
family life still all being together. What more do you want?
(01:03:33):
Oh my god? Yeah? Perfect? Yeah, you're a joy and
a delight, as are you and a love and a dad? Yeah?
Are you going to hang out with circling back that
(01:03:53):
that house that we shut in was where we had
so many COVID shutdowns as fall and we had so
we will never never go back to that house. It's
like a hazmat situation. Oh yeah, yeah, as a shooting
(01:04:16):
in a crack house. Come on, get your budget higher.
For the record, Lamaren lives in a very nice home. Yeah,
but the house across the street not so much. This side,
Orange's got a nice amount of curb space, so we
can park all sorts of quarter right in front of
his house and he has all sorts of cameras to
(01:04:39):
watch you. The bad part about this whole liscenario we
can just drop it because you guys keep talking about
it and stupid, but they bring it. They bring these
pamp these like forms to fill out, you know, and
say hey, can we shoot in front of your house?
And I'm thinking, okay, I have a nice house. Yeah,
you guys can use my like that part if you
(01:05:00):
want to. I'm not asking for any money. Great, and
some neighbors asked for money. I said no, it's just fine,
just shoot your show and you put the goddamn Porter
parties in front of my house. I was so offended.
And upset. You got to teach people how to treat
you little more. I know I want that, guy, Cash.
(01:05:25):
We love you. Thank you so much for coming and
sharing all your incredible memories. It was so fun. Bestranda. Yes,
they're the best. Man, You're the best. Please come back
another time we can talk some more and more specifics
about some alright man, alright, thanks love. You've been listening
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