November 26, 2025 • 38 mins
Kellie talks about growing up on set with Darius McCrary (Eddie Winslow) and how the adults on set helped and encouraged them along the way. Plus we talk to a super-fan, Howard, who shares what "Family Matters" meant to him.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Really listens a mission this day and age.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Kelly and Thelma and returning the page, we're talking.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Family Matters is about those times?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ellen, What happened three.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Between the line with Kelly and me? Welcome to the
fam Elie, Kelly, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome to the family.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Y'all. It's right.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm Telma and I'm Kelly. And in the nineties we
both start in a little sitcom called Family Matters.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah, just that little thing. And for today we rewatched
episode five of season one called straight A's Yep, we
sure did a girl first?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What up with you? What happened this week?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Okay, so you know I'm always asking you. My daughter
is now a teenager, and so when do you become
cool again as a mom? Cause she's in my car
and like doesn't want to talk to me. I'm like
an uber driver and she doesn't want to talk to me.
So I mean I'm giving her one story at this You've.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Got a few years of that. You're no longer interesting. Oh,
you're no longer interesting. And she can get most of
the stuff that she needs.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You think you will be interested to somebody who you feed, Well,
you can close, Well, you only feed her sometimes because
the other times you have to service your husman.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So she's only being fed part time. That's probably watching mad.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So what's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, girl, I had an interesting encounter.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I was in Atlanta and some friends and I decided
since we had the day off, that we would mosey
on down to Whole Foods.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
You mean whole paycheck.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, whole paycheck, totally prepared to spend it. And as
we were wandering through, I went past this deli case,
like the food case, and there was a young gentleman
there who just freaked out and he was just like,
Oh my god, I can't believe it's you, and I mean,
you're really here, You're really here. His name was Howard Okay,
(02:01):
and he is a fan of the show, and he
had a beautiful story of how we helped him and
his growing up. He had a tough time growing up.
So we're going to get a chance to talk to
Howard and he's going to tell us why we are
so important to him. He was just so excited. I
took pictures with him. It's so AWESO went back the
second day he was there again. He was just so excited.
(02:23):
So I was not smart enough to actually think and
ask for his numbers so that we can actually use him.
So thank goodness for our crack research team. All right,
I found the whole fools and found him. I give
him the wrong name and everything, so thank goodness for them.
But yeah, we'll be talking to him later. And I
just was so touched by that because I get that
(02:45):
quite often that, you know, kids that were having a
hard time, maybe family problems or whatever, we were their
safe place on Friday tgif you know so. I thought
that was sweet. Enough about that. Let's talk about this episode.
Let's get into it all right.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Now. Today we're talking about straight a's. And this episode
was written by Jeff Fordon and Gordon Lewis and was
directed again by John Boapp.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
The director we made cry on Bosom Buddies. I just
like to throw that in every now and every time.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Every time.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, in this one, Eddie surprises everyone, especially himself, by
getting straight a's on his report card.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
That is a miracle in itself, you know it.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And this episode aired on October twentieth, nineteen eighty nine.
So what else was happening on this day in history?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, the number one album on the Billboard Top two
hundred chart was Get This Girl.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You know It's true? Oh lord ooh.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well it you with Milly Nilly Okay. The number one
album on the Billboard R and B album chart was
Tender Lover by Bound that album album. And also that week,
a very notable event for California was the Loma Prieta earthquake.
(04:12):
It devastated the Bay Area. It was huge. So that
was a lot going on in one day. Yeah, a
lot going on in one day.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And actually on the day after the episode aired on
October twenty first, Bertram Lee and Peter Bino made black
history by becoming the first African Americans to purchase the
controlling interest in an NBA team when they purchased.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
The Denver Nuggets. Wow. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That would have been important to Eddie. We're always talking
as a family about poor Eddie.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Slow Eddie. Yeah, can't get it together, Eddie.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Some women Eddie the low average students, right, Well, you
love to throw that in, don't.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Because Laura was fabulous and always the straight a student
and as well, let's throw my in there as well.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Some baby now, but you would pretty know it all
on this show.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
This show all the shows, let's just put you in
that pile, right, So did you like playing it as
a younger sister now you have younger siblings?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, I mean I played her like an older sibling
because in the program, to me, usually the birth order matters,
and usually the oldest kid is the manifestation of the
hopes and dreams of the parents. So because she was
so smart and so much of a know it all,
I still played her like an older sibling.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
M H.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now I know the relationship you had as siblings on
the show. What was your relationship like with Darius in
real life? Well, you're not that far apart now in age.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Darius, Julula, and me are are all born in the
same year.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow, that's crazy. I always think of Darius as two
or three years older for some reason.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
That's because he always looked older.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
M m, because he always acting older than he is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But I'm actually older than both of the boys. Well,
I'm born in March, Darius was in May, and Jelu
And no.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's right, because you and my son are four days,
four days, part three, two days. I think you're twenty four.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, no, no, I'm a twenty second Oh so.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Two days apart.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, right, Yeah, I just wondered about that because I know,
you know, we had a great working relationship on the stage,
but I didn't know how you all grew together away
from that because you were in school and all that stuff,
you know.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
And when they're on here, I'm sure you'll see we
grew up pretty much like siblings. So I mean there
was pranks, there was like rivalry, there was like tussling
everything like a real stepson.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So well, back to the episode, because we don't want
to forget we're talking about Eddie.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Kyle is really worried about Eddie.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He wants him to get into a good college, which
he won't be able to do if he can't get
his grades up. Correct, So grade day is a big
deal in the Winslow household, right, Carl holds a report
card rich A Walt exactly, and Harriet has to be
the report card lady to music.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yep, Vana Black.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And Carl per ritual gives each kid five dollars for
each a they get.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Do you know how much it's up to now? Like
kids are really expecting like twenty bucks, like real money.
Can you imagine? No?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I cannot I don't get nobody to get good grades.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That part. Do you want to eat?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You want to.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Hello somebody, you want place to stay, They want to
get back in the door after you take your key
and get out, baby listen, yep, but yeah, to do it. No,
let's expected. But what nobody expects is that Eddie gets
straight a's and Laura gets a B plus, gets a
(07:47):
B plus for the first time in Hollie sends her
into a tizzy and to a tizzy depression. She's Debbie
down or on steroids. You just become a hot mess.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
You can't take it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I think it's also because Eddie has found a newfound
confidence in himself now that he has these good grades.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And you know it's funny because he doesn't question the
fact that he got straight eggs at all, which it's reading.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Nobody on the whole show. No, it's like it's surprised
six Like I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay, except you.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Right, Eddie, Eddie winsle, Eddie winslow.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Your face.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I borrowed some of the looks from Joe Marion.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Now you certainly did on that one.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But it's such a sweet thing in a way, because,
like I said, for Eddie to even think that that
could be a possibility.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
It's so funny. But he truly does fall into it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean, he believes it and you can see it
make a difference in how he views himself.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Which I think is it's really sweet in a way, you.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Know, isn't that That's so funny though, like how something
like that can make you change your whole perspective on
life even if it's not true.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Even if it's not true, because you feel it, you
feel like it's true. And what I love about the
whole episode and the way it moves is that because
Eddie believes it and he's so proud that he's made
his dad so proud, it really becomes almost like I
want him to have the grace just so he doesn't
have to suffer, you know, I mean I really want
(09:32):
that for him. And you know Carl always means will,
but he just doesn't know how to do anything halfway.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
He just and you were always like a great mom
where you understood everything, but like Carl, it is like
putting all this pressure on him suddenly. And it's so
funny how your first kid is like really all the
hopes and dreams of the parent and so Carl starts
to get all these people to come over like a
Harvard recruit to talk to Eddie, and then he pressures
(10:02):
them and then gives them all of this swag.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He'sa wag.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He's getting computers, he's getting stuff, and how are we
affording all this stuff? It just amazes me how Kyl
can find money whenever he needs to, when he's got
to throw something down because he comes in with stuff
that costs so much for those people at that time.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You want to something, tell me maybe that's the b story.
Carl was on the tape.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Y'all girl, Okay, we know Kyle doesn't know you know
you're Jessica Fletcher.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Carl does not know how to have do well. In
nineteen eighty nine, a set in Chicago bears Team Jacket.
What cost between ninety dollars and one hundred and twenty dollars?
Say what, No, ninety and one hundred and twenty dollars
When he coming up with all this money, that's.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
All I know.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Like you said, maybe he on.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
The take right and entry level PC would cost around
fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Good lord, he must have sold one of the rooms upstairs.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Baby, listen all of that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, we have obviously turned our finances around. And what
five shows six shows money on the up there, moving
on up.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But it also talks about how black families they come
up with they need to come up with everything's on
the line. Maybe they come up with the money to
help you get where you need to go. They giving
out fifteen hundred dollars computers, which is probably double their mortgage.
They come up with satin started jackets.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
When the rubber meets the road, they make it work.
They make it look that I looked at it.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
That my own story. My mother was a secretary of
my father worked at the post office. But I got
to LA to the auditions, I got to New York.
They made it happen.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
My grandmother didn't want me to do anything, but she
allowed it anyway, And once you know, my career really
did get going, she took all the credit for it,
so I might as well not done anything.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oo took all the credit like it was her idea.
The whole time.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
She just forced me to go to school until you know,
I got enough education where I could do something else.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Birtha was something else.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Carol always goes to the extreme but he has a
great heart. You know, his modus operanda is because he
wants this for his son, because he didn't have it.
His father never got a chance to go to collech
He didn't get a chance to go to colleg He
knows you're going Eddie any events, right, And I think,
like you said that first born, he never saw that
(12:36):
for Eddie. But to all of a sudden have that
available and something that can happen, I think it just
pushes Carl over the edge where he lives basically, but.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
That all comes to horrible crash when Eddie's friend Rodney
comes over by Randy Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yes, yeah, who is the first and don't want hurt
nobody's feelings white person.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
We can see her what white people in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh that's right, I forgot, Okay, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So yeah, he just was passing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, he's one of those kids that gets on everybody's nerves.
He's always a sight. He's already left a hand in
my hand, he's got silly string. Harriet has already threatened
him about fake vomit in her kitchen, So we know
what kind of.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Kid he is.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Now, do you know any kids in your life.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Or in your children's life, I should say that you
don't like that, you can say out loud, don't don't
mention any names. Don't mention any name, don't describe us,
you know, in general in Jenna.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, yeah, but I'm very again, this is when you're
an old mom. You control everything. Well not everything obviously,
because they still do strong. But like, I'm real ticky
about who I let my kids hanging around.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, so well we we've always been like that, so
that's nothing new.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But I think even more so, like when you start,
it's like scared everything that's gonna hurt them so and
you're like, oh no, this kid is terrible, chop, speaking
of honey, at this school, these kids are terrible. What
do you mean, Well, during COVID, you know, we all
listened in on the internet, school, right, and the kids
(14:18):
are terrible. So yeah, I don't let my kids hang
out with that many people. They have a few select
people that I think are appropriate, but other than that, no,
now about you. Well, see, my son grew up in
a little different time and I was a young mom
and we kind of grew up together. So our house
was the hang I mean from the time that I
was doing Tony Orlanda. I mean, we had the snacks,
(14:40):
we had the toys, we had the video games, we
had a housekeeper know how to cook black food.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It was just the best place to be in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And so, you know, I just got used to having
a house full that I'd come home and strange people
being hell Okay, I always said, my grandmother tried to
raise everybody who walked through her front door, and I
would never be like her.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's how I was one of your traits all the time, absolutely,
and all your good snacks.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And still do I mean people still do it. Still
do it?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I mean my son still acts like this is his house.
He has parties over here, and don't telling myself so
but his friends like me better than they do him.
He just don't know it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh, I'm telling you better not. It's such a mouth.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Okay. So anyway, Randy comes over and reveals that he
made a fake report card for all the buddies and
mail them to their houses instead of the real ones.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And Eddie doesn't even get that at first. He's like, huh,
so wait a minute, I didn't get straight.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Again.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And Rodney, being the dear friend that he he said, now,
not unless you had a brain transplant. Eddie just gets
dogged out by everybody, even his friends. But yeah, I
thought that that was a nice turn, because Eddie was
more concerned about how disappointed Carl was going to be
(16:02):
even then how he was feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Do you remember the scene that you did with him.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, the safe place.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And that's another thing that I love that it's obvious
that as crazy as this family is, because everybody's a
little nutty, but there's a great amount of trust and
love and the fact that you kids know that you
can come to me, you can come to mother Winslow.
There's just a really beautiful amount of trust I think
(16:31):
in this family. And I love the fact that they
show the relationships because I didn't get to play with
Darius that much as much as I did, say with
you or the baby or you know, the grown ups.
But we also see, and you can speak to this,
the difference between how Harriet here's the news and how
Carl hears the news.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Like your kids are really your opportunity at a different life.
How Carl's decision to make this all about him, even
though it was Eddie's grades. I thought that was so
interesting because I thought, you really do you just.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Live vicariously through our kids.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, there are things that we may have wanted
to do that we'll never get the opportunity to do,
so you do, and it's not always a good thing,
but we do tend to want to relive.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
That victory through our children.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You know. So back into the story, Now, got any
various stories? You can tell anything? Yeah, I was thinking
that myself. I do have a couple, but he might
not come on the show if we tell everything exactly.
But you know what I do want to mention, you know,
Darius plays an idiot on the show. He's a sweetheart,
(17:41):
but he's an idiot, and it really takes a lot
of talent to be able to play a character like that.
And I think, you know, he's smart to be dumb
and really smart and really talented. And I think, you know,
I just wanted to bring up the fact that both
of you, you were in theater. He he was doing
Mississippi Burning in nineteen eighty eight. He did Big Shots
(18:03):
in nineteen eighty seven where he was skimming. I mean,
he was the lead, you know, and he was a
little wide head boy, but he did a good job
he did it, you know, So for him to be
able to come on and play this character so convincingly
just really speaks to how good an actor he is,
because it's hard to be stupid all the time.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
But I just think I.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Also want to talk again about the adults on the
show were so supportive in real life and in scenes
with us. It really made it good to be an actor.
You guys gave us so much to work with.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But it was so easy, Kelly, because again, you know,
they say, if it's not on the page, it's not
on the stage. But really, when those characters connect, like
our characters connecting on family matters, it doesn't even have
to be on the page, you know. A lot of
it just comes through the relationships that we have as
characters and as people. I think it really was what
(19:01):
made the show so solid. It wasn't that every line
was so funny or we were so good in every scene,
but there was something that people could depend on. There
was a unit they were going to see, a family
that cared about each other, that didn't get along all
the time, that made lots of mistakes, but in the
long run always came back to the fact that we're
a family and we're always going to be there for
(19:22):
each other. I love that you can't give what you
don't have. I think we all were able to be
so supportive because somebody supported us, like Rosetta for instance.
Somebody opened that door for me. She opened the doors
for a lot of means a.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Lot of folks. And I love that because what you're
talking about, the support was what led Eddie's character to
admit to his parents that Randy had sent them a
fake report card.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And what I love is that right away, instead of
seeing the negative, Harriet sees the positive in it. She
talks about, this is your best report card? She again
uplifts him.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Sure, we love some black women on this show.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Whereas Carl, he usually has to get smacked in the
face before he gets the fact that he maybe made
the wrong decision or said the wrong thing. And I
love that. I love that balance with them. But it
kind of broke my heart. And you can tell the
audience reacted to when Eddie said, yeah, I guess I'm
just stupid and went upstairs. It was a real moment
(20:23):
for me. Even though we know Eddie doesn't have the
wherewithal to get those grades. It's still and that really
touched me because he really didn't get a chance to
enjoy his smarts because right away there was that pressure
from his father. But to me, that was a very
real moment and it really touched me.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Right, But their relationship, Carl and Eddie's relationship was still
good because it provoked Carl to go to Eddie and
talk to him.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And let's just mention this another problem. Another bedroom.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay, we got another room upstairs. Now Eddie's an attic.
That's where I have my suite. They got a room,
the baby got a room. Y'all got I just don't
know how many rooms there are. But I was so
tickle when the knock on the door as of which
room is it today?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I mean, this mouse got more flaws than a pentagon.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And I've askly more people too.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Right straight underground, they had a subway in in everything.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But yeah, I loved the moments that we have when
any of the characters get a real moment together, and
for Carl to admit that he was wrong in the
way he handled it, and then to encourage him and
to let him know that even though those weren't his
real grades, he believes in him, and he believes that
he can do anything that he puts his mind to,
(21:37):
and he can, which will be to find a woman
on campus. But you know, that's another whole story.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But it was because he never got those opportunities, He
never got to go to college, He never had that
kind of approval from his father, so he wanted that
through a son.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, And I like that it points out the importance
of with our children really do need to celebrate the
small things. The small things there are sometimes more pivotal
than the big things. And I just like that we
have that moment and we get again to see that
while Kyl is hard on Eddie, it's only because he
loves him and he wants the best for him, and
(22:12):
he wants better for him than he had, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah. I think that again highlights such an important thing
in Black culture, is that everything that we have or
ever hope to have is bought and paid for and
sacrifice some blood.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
That is the truth.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Everything that we've ever gotten is because somebody wanted better
for us than they had themselves, which is what I.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Love went out of their way to make sure we
got it, you know, right.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And it was a great father in some relationship which
I love. Yeah, because you don't get to see that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
You say you had well, not father, because you're not
a boy.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
But actually the firstborn, I am my father's son. Really really,
I said that to my father left all the time.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Well you wear a good dress, girl.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And I told my phone I was getting married. He goes,
you know, you a lot like me, and that ain't
always good? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
A lot else?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
We had fun though, man, we had fun at that wedding.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
How do you a Hannibal parent?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Are you usually on the same page when it comes
to parenting or is one the good cop one bad cop?
Or how does that work in your house?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You know, Hannibal is the good cop, Santa Claus Hannibal.
He leads me to do all the dirty work, and
I don't mind. I don't mind it at all, just
like my mother didn't mind.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I think you don't mind a little more than your mother.
You really don't mind going here and teary all cheering.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't because you don't want your kid to go.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Out there and have a false sense of anything.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The snowball parenting is what's ruining children now.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, because nobody's gonna treat them the way you're treating them.
You're sending them out there to get their feelings really hurt,
you know, when you're not doing that policing at home
with your kids.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
But I was curious about that.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You know, Gerald was in Michigan, and I was fortunate
in that when he was growing up, he did have
men in his life that were influential and people that
I trusted.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
My uncle Buddy. Didn't everybody have an uncle Buddy.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
My uncle Buddy, My stepdad Owens, a friend of ours, Jimmy,
who is still in his life. His uncle Rodney, who
like my uncle Buddy, was everybody's daddy. We called them
every time anytime a kid got out of hand, we
would call Rodney. So he had people in his life
that I trusted to lead him in the right way,
(24:41):
because I mean, I can be a great mom and
I can fill a lot of gaps, but.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It takes some man to show a man how to
be a man.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I can't be a man, and there are certain things
that need to come from a man, but it has
to be someone that you trust absolutely.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That's also something I like about the show too, is
that everybody in the house had to say values. I mean,
the kids got the message, whether it was from the parents,
with it from Aunt Rachel, whether it's from Grandma, top
to bottom, the message gets sent.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, that's true, and that's important. You know, unification in
a family is very important because you know, kids will
use you.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They'll run to this one and try that. That didn't work.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, let me go over here and nah baby kind
of say what she said, but not exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
See if I can get away with that. You know,
they'll work you, they will work.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh. Yeah, we try to have one voice. And my
mother lives with us too, so everybody we get together
to strategize.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Try to stay on the same page. Yeah, that's great,
this is what we're doing. That's great. I want to
ask you, Kelly, now your kids are in school, what
are your expectations for your kids? I mean, how do
you manage that?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, my kids are pretty good at monitoring themselves, so
I definitely don't try to put any more pressure than
they put on themselves, because they can get a little
crazy with the expectations that they have personally. So no,
I don't put any more pressu on them because they
(26:04):
can beat up on themselves. Sometimes and I don't want
that at.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
All, exactly exactly now I had with Gerald. Of course,
I mean there were expectations, but because I knew his capabilities,
so I couldn't wander in with a CD and something,
I'm like, excuse you. But at the same time, there
was not you got to come home with straight a's,
you know, I expected him to come home with the
(26:30):
kinds of grades that I knew he could get. He
was very smart, got very bored in school sometimes and
talk too much, but was smart, just not always focused.
But when it came down to it, like when he
got ready for college, he was so dedicated to taking
classes and extra classes and everything so that he could
(26:51):
get into the college that he wanted to get into,
which was UCLA, which you know, you could only get
in there with the grades. And he determined that that's
where he was going, and he did it and I
didn't have to do anything except support him. But yeah,
there were expectations, but I tried not to put that
kind of pressure on.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
And I think that my kids have forgotten really good
at I don't want to give them information for information's sake.
I want them to learn how to think, which is
what they're gathering, so I think I'm trusting the process.
So it's not really about a grade specifically, it's more
about are you learning how to learn?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
For me?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
That's good that, Kelly, I have to remember that. Probably
forgot it already. What did you say.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
That far?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But I like that. I like that a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So the next episode is similar with Carl and his
pressuring Eddie about something.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Now he's got to be a basketball star. Poor poor Eddie.
He just goes from one sweat shop to another. But
we'll get into that on our next podcast. Correct, we
also have a very best your guests who can tell
us a lot about Carl and Eddie's father's son Bond.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Who could that be?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Kelly Williams, Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
The fabulous, the illustrious, the talented, Reginald L. Johnson.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
A Yes, Carl Winslow, Yes, yes, yes, yes, he will
be with us and that's gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
But look, I guess things didn't work out with you
and Old Island since Rachel seemed very interested in the
Harvard recruiter.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
What's your point? You can't keep a man, I'm a
bluesy what else?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So, family, we want to do a little segment on
the podcast called y'all in the Family Now. This is
where we have fans come on and chat with us
just to talk a little bit about what family matters
means to them.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
That's right, and I love this part. So our guest
today is a man called Howard who lives in Atlanta.
And you just ran into him at Whole Food's right too.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, just grabbing some groceries and he was working in
the prepared food section. When he saw me, girl, his
whole face lit up, and then we had the best conversation.
So I knew I wanted to bring him on the podcast.
Oh girl, he is so excited to meet you. I
ignored me. I hurt my feelings because I thought he
was all about me. He was till he found out you,
(29:22):
and he was done with me.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Oh well, I cannot wait to meet him too. This
is so cool. We love meeting you guys. That is
so awesome. Okay, so let's do it.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Yes, Hi, Kelly, Oh my, hi Kelly? How are you wait?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Tell my? Hen talking about you NonStop since we started.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Welcome Howard, Welcome to the Family Hour. You're part of
the family now.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Lord, I'm sitting up here with Laura Winslow. Rachel loved it.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
My mother, if she was allowed today, she would be
so proud. She would be shocked.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I'm so glad you could be with us today. You've
talked to our crack team.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You know, they had to find you, Howard, because I'd
give them the wrong name. First of all, I was
telling the story and Jad looked at me and said,
and did you get his phone number? And I was like, hey,
see what happened. But thank goodness, because we have a
crack research team and they not found you, found your
boss got you. I'm just so so pleased that you
(30:30):
could be with us. Why don't you, first of all
tell us a little bit about yourself, and then if
you don't mind talking about what family matters meant to you,
or how it affected your life or you're growing up
or whatever, because I know you was just a tiny
baby when we started watching, right.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Yeah, but okay, let me go a little bit into
my story. Okay, all right, I'm an only child. My
mother was number fourteen out of fifteen kids. She had
me when she was eighteen, so pretty much she ended
up being addicted to drugs or whatever. The family Dynamics
was weird. But one thing my mom always did was
(31:08):
she used to always sit me down and we used
to always look at give me a break together. Shut up.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So it's deeper than family matters.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I love my gosh, you didn't tell me that we used.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
To look at it, give me a break together.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
And I don't really want to be telling all my
business on here, but they say every everyday guy always
had a female that he holds onto.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I held on to ad Ok.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You gonna make me cry. I gotta give me some
kiss ue.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
I became conscious of what I was watching probably about
maybe five or six. So by that time, Give Me
a Break was in syndication, and I remember me being
upset because I remember Neil going back and forth to
New York. But I didn't know the show was Indy,
So when it ended, I felt a void. But then
(32:00):
and Family Matters at Rachel and I was like, Oh,
that's Eddie.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I love that. I'm so sweet.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
So then when Family Matters came out, it was good
because Family Matters, in my opinion, gave me the realest
black family.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Thank you, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Not to take away from the other popular Black Family,
which we all love, but Family Matters had something I
don't know what it was that I knew Laura, I knew.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Eddie Hell, I even see.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Those people. Yeah, so it just comes all seems like
it all comes full circle.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Wow, But you don't even know that. That's like the
biggest compliment that you could ever give to an actor,
that they project characters that are extraordinarily ordinary, so that
you should know these people in your life, that they
would mirror people that you actually know or want to
be around or are in family with. So that's super cool.
(33:12):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I was going to finish in saying as far as
you miss Williams, you know I've watched you on Family Man,
as you know, and especially out of anybody, you were me.
If I can make sense, I could put myself in
a lot of Laura's situations, with situations how she treated Steve,
I could kind of relate to that. And the thing
(33:35):
of it is in fan theory, I want to say
she had anxiety.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Uh huh, Laura Winslow had anxiety.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
And what's funny is, even though they are two separate characters,
I can see how Laura translated into Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Oh yeah, what Yeah. Yeah, So when we went.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
To go Baby, I could see where a lot of
Laura's frustrations. Even though they have two different characters, I
can see the word's frustrations.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
What lean on to me in Tuesday? Yeah, Tuesday, I'm
gonna snatch that.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Did you put Baltimore too?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Okay, you gotta ask somebody. She's good, Yeah, she hood.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
You didn't take a nice all to ride forward? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know what's so great about this too? It just
reminds me of a tour that I did when we
were doing Family Matters and we were doing a lot
of news shows and stuff like that, and people were
telling me, I invite you into my home more often
than I do my relatives because I want you there
every week. And you know, I mean really straight, white,
stodgy news type guys. We're talking about how they have
(34:43):
to be home by eight o'clock because it's become a
whole thing, you know, with the family that they make
the effort to get from the newsroom to home. So
what Howard is giving us is a little piece of that.
And Howard, I gotta tell you, you brought a tear
to my eye, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You didn't tell me about the whole Addie connections.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I was like, yes, wow, what about it is though
as a child I connected to Eddie. I don't know
why I connected to Eddie.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, I'm glad you did. I'm glad you did.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I'm so thankful that you came on and shared your
story with us, and.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Now you've been adopted into the family.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Thank you, y'all. Just gonna know how all this comes
for a circle for me.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Thank you so much for being a part of the family.
We adore you of the family.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
We may have to call you again because we got
your phone number.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, I'm here.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Thank you, mss Hopkins. Y'all have made my oh I
just oh my.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
God, you made ours to Howard. Believe me, this just
makes my heart happy.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
I'll never going to forget this. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Oh my goodness. It was so cool talking to Howard.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And we're definitely going to have to do more of
y'all and the family on the show because that was
so much y on. So, if you have something to
share with us, check out our website. We have a
link there where you can leave a voicemail. We might
just give you a call back.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I noticed her or you could just run into Tell
Me a Whole Foods, like, oh, howie there.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yep, that's it for this week. But stay tuned.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, We're going to rewatch each episode of Family Matters
week by week, so make sure to rewatch the show
right along with us. You can catch it on Hulu
and TBS and a bunch of other places.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly is a
production of iHeart Podcasts and Audiation. It's hosted by me
Telma Hopkins and me Kelly Williams. Our executive producers are
Sandy Smalling's for Audiation, Adam Rip, JD Hopkins, who also
happens to be my son and Kelly's fobro, and Jonathan
Strickland for iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
The show is produced by telman I, but our series
producer is Irelen Mitcham and our theme songs lyrics were
written by JD. Hopkins and Adam RiPP. The theme song
was scored and mixed by Matt Noble, who's also our
series mixer.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And we'd like to thank Nikki Etour and the entire
iHeart podcast team.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Thank you, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Follow us on Instagram A Welcome to the Family Pod
for behind the scenes photos and more bonus content.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And don't forget to leave us a voicemail at our website,
Thefamilymatterspod dot com. We want to hear your thoughts and
favorite memories of the show and let us know if
you need advice, because we're good for some bad advice.
We might be able to help you with your own
Family Matters.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
And make sure to rate and review us wherever you're listening.
We are so excited to have you guys along for
the ride. Yes, Welcome to the family, y'all, and we'll
see you next time.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Welcome to the Familie
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Audiation.
Really listens a mission this day and age.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Kelly and Thelma and returning the page, we're talking.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Family Matters is about those times?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ellen, What happened three.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Between the line with Kelly and me? Welcome to the
fam Elie, Kelly, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome to the family.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Y'all. It's right.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm Telma and I'm Kelly. And in the nineties we
both start in a little sitcom called Family Matters.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah, just that little thing. And for today we rewatched
episode five of season one called straight A's Yep, we
sure did a girl first?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What up with you? What happened this week?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Okay, so you know I'm always asking you. My daughter
is now a teenager, and so when do you become
cool again as a mom? Cause she's in my car
and like doesn't want to talk to me. I'm like
an uber driver and she doesn't want to talk to me.
So I mean I'm giving her one story at this You've.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Got a few years of that. You're no longer interesting. Oh,
you're no longer interesting. And she can get most of
the stuff that she needs.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You think you will be interested to somebody who you feed, Well,
you can close, Well, you only feed her sometimes because
the other times you have to service your husman.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So she's only being fed part time. That's probably watching mad.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
So what's going on with you?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, girl, I had an interesting encounter.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I was in Atlanta and some friends and I decided
since we had the day off, that we would mosey
on down to Whole Foods.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
You mean whole paycheck.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, whole paycheck, totally prepared to spend it. And as
we were wandering through, I went past this deli case,
like the food case, and there was a young gentleman
there who just freaked out and he was just like,
Oh my god, I can't believe it's you, and I mean,
you're really here, You're really here. His name was Howard Okay,
(02:01):
and he is a fan of the show, and he
had a beautiful story of how we helped him and
his growing up. He had a tough time growing up.
So we're going to get a chance to talk to
Howard and he's going to tell us why we are
so important to him. He was just so excited. I
took pictures with him. It's so AWESO went back the
second day he was there again. He was just so excited.
(02:23):
So I was not smart enough to actually think and
ask for his numbers so that we can actually use him.
So thank goodness for our crack research team. All right,
I found the whole fools and found him. I give
him the wrong name and everything, so thank goodness for them.
But yeah, we'll be talking to him later. And I
just was so touched by that because I get that
(02:45):
quite often that, you know, kids that were having a
hard time, maybe family problems or whatever, we were their
safe place on Friday tgif you know so. I thought
that was sweet. Enough about that. Let's talk about this episode.
Let's get into it all right.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Now. Today we're talking about straight a's. And this episode
was written by Jeff Fordon and Gordon Lewis and was
directed again by John Boapp.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
The director we made cry on Bosom Buddies. I just
like to throw that in every now and every time.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Every time.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well, in this one, Eddie surprises everyone, especially himself, by
getting straight a's on his report card.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
That is a miracle in itself, you know it.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And this episode aired on October twentieth, nineteen eighty nine.
So what else was happening on this day in history?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, the number one album on the Billboard Top two
hundred chart was Get This Girl.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You know It's true? Oh lord ooh.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well it you with Milly Nilly Okay. The number one
album on the Billboard R and B album chart was
Tender Lover by Bound that album album. And also that week,
a very notable event for California was the Loma Prieta earthquake.
(04:12):
It devastated the Bay Area. It was huge. So that
was a lot going on in one day. Yeah, a
lot going on in one day.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
And actually on the day after the episode aired on
October twenty first, Bertram Lee and Peter Bino made black
history by becoming the first African Americans to purchase the
controlling interest in an NBA team when they purchased.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
The Denver Nuggets. Wow. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
That would have been important to Eddie. We're always talking
as a family about poor Eddie.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Slow Eddie. Yeah, can't get it together, Eddie.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Some women Eddie the low average students, right, Well, you
love to throw that in, don't.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Because Laura was fabulous and always the straight a student
and as well, let's throw my in there as well.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Some baby now, but you would pretty know it all
on this show.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
This show all the shows, let's just put you in
that pile, right, So did you like playing it as
a younger sister now you have younger siblings?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, I mean I played her like an older sibling
because in the program, to me, usually the birth order matters,
and usually the oldest kid is the manifestation of the
hopes and dreams of the parents. So because she was
so smart and so much of a know it all,
I still played her like an older sibling.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
M H.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now I know the relationship you had as siblings on
the show. What was your relationship like with Darius in
real life? Well, you're not that far apart now in age.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Darius, Julula, and me are are all born in the
same year.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Wow, that's crazy. I always think of Darius as two
or three years older for some reason.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
That's because he always looked older.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
M m, because he always acting older than he is.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
But I'm actually older than both of the boys. Well,
I'm born in March, Darius was in May, and Jelu
And no.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's right, because you and my son are four days,
four days, part three, two days. I think you're twenty four.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, no, no, I'm a twenty second Oh so.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Two days apart.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, right, Yeah, I just wondered about that because I know,
you know, we had a great working relationship on the stage,
but I didn't know how you all grew together away
from that because you were in school and all that stuff,
you know.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
And when they're on here, I'm sure you'll see we
grew up pretty much like siblings. So I mean there
was pranks, there was like rivalry, there was like tussling
everything like a real stepson.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So well, back to the episode, because we don't want
to forget we're talking about Eddie.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Kyle is really worried about Eddie.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
He wants him to get into a good college, which
he won't be able to do if he can't get
his grades up. Correct, So grade day is a big
deal in the Winslow household, right, Carl holds a report
card rich A Walt exactly, and Harriet has to be
the report card lady to music.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yep, Vana Black.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And Carl per ritual gives each kid five dollars for
each a they get.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Do you know how much it's up to now? Like
kids are really expecting like twenty bucks, like real money.
Can you imagine? No?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I cannot I don't get nobody to get good grades.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That part. Do you want to eat?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
You want to.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Hello somebody, you want place to stay, They want to
get back in the door after you take your key
and get out, baby listen, yep, but yeah, to do it. No,
let's expected. But what nobody expects is that Eddie gets
straight a's and Laura gets a B plus, gets a
(07:47):
B plus for the first time in Hollie sends her
into a tizzy and to a tizzy depression. She's Debbie
down or on steroids. You just become a hot mess.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
You can't take it.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I think it's also because Eddie has found a newfound
confidence in himself now that he has these good grades.
That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And you know it's funny because he doesn't question the
fact that he got straight eggs at all, which it's reading.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Nobody on the whole show. No, it's like it's surprised
six Like I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Okay, except you.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Right, Eddie, Eddie winsle, Eddie winslow.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Your face.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I borrowed some of the looks from Joe Marion.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Now you certainly did on that one.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But it's such a sweet thing in a way, because,
like I said, for Eddie to even think that that
could be a possibility.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
It's so funny. But he truly does fall into it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I mean, he believes it and you can see it
make a difference in how he views himself.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Which I think is it's really sweet in a way, you.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Know, isn't that That's so funny though, like how something
like that can make you change your whole perspective on
life even if it's not true.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Even if it's not true, because you feel it, you
feel like it's true. And what I love about the
whole episode and the way it moves is that because
Eddie believes it and he's so proud that he's made
his dad so proud, it really becomes almost like I
want him to have the grace just so he doesn't
have to suffer, you know, I mean I really want
(09:32):
that for him. And you know Carl always means will,
but he just doesn't know how to do anything halfway.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
He just and you were always like a great mom
where you understood everything, but like Carl, it is like
putting all this pressure on him suddenly. And it's so
funny how your first kid is like really all the
hopes and dreams of the parent and so Carl starts
to get all these people to come over like a
Harvard recruit to talk to Eddie, and then he pressures
(10:02):
them and then gives them all of this swag.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He'sa wag.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He's getting computers, he's getting stuff, and how are we
affording all this stuff? It just amazes me how Kyl
can find money whenever he needs to, when he's got
to throw something down because he comes in with stuff
that costs so much for those people at that time.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You want to something, tell me maybe that's the b story.
Carl was on the tape.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Y'all girl, Okay, we know Kyle doesn't know you know
you're Jessica Fletcher.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Carl does not know how to have do well. In
nineteen eighty nine, a set in Chicago bears Team Jacket.
What cost between ninety dollars and one hundred and twenty dollars?
Say what, No, ninety and one hundred and twenty dollars
When he coming up with all this money, that's.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
All I know.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Like you said, maybe he on.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
The take right and entry level PC would cost around
fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Good lord, he must have sold one of the rooms upstairs.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Baby, listen all of that.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, we have obviously turned our finances around. And what
five shows six shows money on the up there, moving
on up.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
But it also talks about how black families they come
up with they need to come up with everything's on
the line. Maybe they come up with the money to
help you get where you need to go. They giving
out fifteen hundred dollars computers, which is probably double their mortgage.
They come up with satin started jackets.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
When the rubber meets the road, they make it work.
They make it look that I looked at it.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
That my own story. My mother was a secretary of
my father worked at the post office. But I got
to LA to the auditions, I got to New York.
They made it happen.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
My grandmother didn't want me to do anything, but she
allowed it anyway, And once you know, my career really
did get going, she took all the credit for it,
so I might as well not done anything.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Oo took all the credit like it was her idea.
The whole time.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
She just forced me to go to school until you know,
I got enough education where I could do something else.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Birtha was something else.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Carol always goes to the extreme but he has a
great heart. You know, his modus operanda is because he
wants this for his son, because he didn't have it.
His father never got a chance to go to collech
He didn't get a chance to go to colleg He
knows you're going Eddie any events, right, And I think,
like you said that first born, he never saw that
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for Eddie. But to all of a sudden have that
available and something that can happen, I think it just
pushes Carl over the edge where he lives basically, but.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
That all comes to horrible crash when Eddie's friend Rodney
comes over by Randy Johnson.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yes, yeah, who is the first and don't want hurt
nobody's feelings white person.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
We can see her what white people in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Oh that's right, I forgot, Okay, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So yeah, he just was passing.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, he's one of those kids that gets on everybody's nerves.
He's always a sight. He's already left a hand in
my hand, he's got silly string. Harriet has already threatened
him about fake vomit in her kitchen, So we know
what kind of.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Kid he is.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Now, do you know any kids in your life.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Or in your children's life, I should say that you
don't like that, you can say out loud, don't don't
mention any names. Don't mention any name, don't describe us,
you know, in general in Jenna.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, yeah, but I'm very again, this is when you're
an old mom. You control everything. Well not everything obviously,
because they still do strong. But like, I'm real ticky
about who I let my kids hanging around.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, so well we we've always been like that, so
that's nothing new.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But I think even more so, like when you start,
it's like scared everything that's gonna hurt them so and
you're like, oh no, this kid is terrible, chop, speaking
of honey, at this school, these kids are terrible. What
do you mean, Well, during COVID, you know, we all
listened in on the internet, school, right, and the kids
(14:18):
are terrible. So yeah, I don't let my kids hang
out with that many people. They have a few select
people that I think are appropriate, but other than that, no,
now about you. Well, see, my son grew up in
a little different time and I was a young mom
and we kind of grew up together. So our house
was the hang I mean from the time that I
was doing Tony Orlanda. I mean, we had the snacks,
(14:40):
we had the toys, we had the video games, we
had a housekeeper know how to cook black food.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It was just the best place to be in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And so, you know, I just got used to having
a house full that I'd come home and strange people
being hell Okay, I always said, my grandmother tried to
raise everybody who walked through her front door, and I
would never be like her.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's how I was one of your traits all the time, absolutely,
and all your good snacks.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And still do I mean people still do it. Still
do it?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I mean my son still acts like this is his house.
He has parties over here, and don't telling myself so
but his friends like me better than they do him.
He just don't know it.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh, I'm telling you better not. It's such a mouth.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Okay. So anyway, Randy comes over and reveals that he
made a fake report card for all the buddies and
mail them to their houses instead of the real ones.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And Eddie doesn't even get that at first. He's like, huh,
so wait a minute, I didn't get straight.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Again.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And Rodney, being the dear friend that he he said, now,
not unless you had a brain transplant. Eddie just gets
dogged out by everybody, even his friends. But yeah, I
thought that that was a nice turn, because Eddie was
more concerned about how disappointed Carl was going to be
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even then how he was feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Do you remember the scene that you did with him.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Yeah, the safe place.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And that's another thing that I love that it's obvious
that as crazy as this family is, because everybody's a
little nutty, but there's a great amount of trust and
love and the fact that you kids know that you
can come to me, you can come to mother Winslow.
There's just a really beautiful amount of trust I think
(16:31):
in this family. And I love the fact that they
show the relationships because I didn't get to play with
Darius that much as much as I did, say with
you or the baby or you know, the grown ups.
But we also see, and you can speak to this,
the difference between how Harriet here's the news and how
Carl hears the news.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Like your kids are really your opportunity at a different life.
How Carl's decision to make this all about him, even
though it was Eddie's grades. I thought that was so
interesting because I thought, you really do you just.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Live vicariously through our kids.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean, there are things that we may have wanted
to do that we'll never get the opportunity to do,
so you do, and it's not always a good thing,
but we do tend to want to relive.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
That victory through our children.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
You know. So back into the story, Now, got any
various stories? You can tell anything? Yeah, I was thinking
that myself. I do have a couple, but he might
not come on the show if we tell everything exactly.
But you know what I do want to mention, you know,
Darius plays an idiot on the show. He's a sweetheart,
(17:41):
but he's an idiot, and it really takes a lot
of talent to be able to play a character like that.
And I think, you know, he's smart to be dumb
and really smart and really talented. And I think, you know,
I just wanted to bring up the fact that both
of you, you were in theater. He he was doing
Mississippi Burning in nineteen eighty eight. He did Big Shots
(18:03):
in nineteen eighty seven where he was skimming. I mean,
he was the lead, you know, and he was a
little wide head boy, but he did a good job
he did it, you know, So for him to be
able to come on and play this character so convincingly
just really speaks to how good an actor he is,
because it's hard to be stupid all the time.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
But I just think I.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Also want to talk again about the adults on the
show were so supportive in real life and in scenes
with us. It really made it good to be an actor.
You guys gave us so much to work with.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But it was so easy, Kelly, because again, you know,
they say, if it's not on the page, it's not
on the stage. But really, when those characters connect, like
our characters connecting on family matters, it doesn't even have
to be on the page, you know. A lot of
it just comes through the relationships that we have as
characters and as people. I think it really was what
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made the show so solid. It wasn't that every line
was so funny or we were so good in every scene,
but there was something that people could depend on. There
was a unit they were going to see, a family
that cared about each other, that didn't get along all
the time, that made lots of mistakes, but in the
long run always came back to the fact that we're
a family and we're always going to be there for
(19:22):
each other. I love that you can't give what you
don't have. I think we all were able to be
so supportive because somebody supported us, like Rosetta for instance.
Somebody opened that door for me. She opened the doors
for a lot of means a.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Lot of folks. And I love that because what you're
talking about, the support was what led Eddie's character to
admit to his parents that Randy had sent them a
fake report card.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
And what I love is that right away, instead of
seeing the negative, Harriet sees the positive in it. She
talks about, this is your best report card? She again
uplifts him.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Sure, we love some black women on this show.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Whereas Carl, he usually has to get smacked in the
face before he gets the fact that he maybe made
the wrong decision or said the wrong thing. And I
love that. I love that balance with them. But it
kind of broke my heart. And you can tell the
audience reacted to when Eddie said, yeah, I guess I'm
just stupid and went upstairs. It was a real moment
(20:23):
for me. Even though we know Eddie doesn't have the
wherewithal to get those grades. It's still and that really
touched me because he really didn't get a chance to
enjoy his smarts because right away there was that pressure
from his father. But to me, that was a very
real moment and it really touched me.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Right, But their relationship, Carl and Eddie's relationship was still
good because it provoked Carl to go to Eddie and
talk to him.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And let's just mention this another problem. Another bedroom.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay, we got another room upstairs. Now Eddie's an attic.
That's where I have my suite. They got a room,
the baby got a room. Y'all got I just don't
know how many rooms there are. But I was so
tickle when the knock on the door as of which
room is it today?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I mean, this mouse got more flaws than a pentagon.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
And I've askly more people too.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Right straight underground, they had a subway in in everything.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
But yeah, I loved the moments that we have when
any of the characters get a real moment together, and
for Carl to admit that he was wrong in the
way he handled it, and then to encourage him and
to let him know that even though those weren't his
real grades, he believes in him, and he believes that
he can do anything that he puts his mind to,
(21:37):
and he can, which will be to find a woman
on campus. But you know, that's another whole story.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But it was because he never got those opportunities, He
never got to go to college, He never had that
kind of approval from his father, so he wanted that
through a son.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, And I like that it points out the importance
of with our children really do need to celebrate the
small things. The small things there are sometimes more pivotal
than the big things. And I just like that we
have that moment and we get again to see that
while Kyl is hard on Eddie, it's only because he
loves him and he wants the best for him, and
(22:12):
he wants better for him than he had, you know.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah. I think that again highlights such an important thing
in Black culture, is that everything that we have or
ever hope to have is bought and paid for and
sacrifice some blood.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
That is the truth.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Everything that we've ever gotten is because somebody wanted better
for us than they had themselves, which is what I.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Love went out of their way to make sure we
got it, you know, right.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And it was a great father in some relationship which
I love. Yeah, because you don't get to see that.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
You say you had well, not father, because you're not
a boy.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
But actually the firstborn, I am my father's son. Really really,
I said that to my father left all the time.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Well you wear a good dress, girl.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
And I told my phone I was getting married. He goes,
you know, you a lot like me, and that ain't
always good? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
A lot else?
Speaker 2 (23:11):
We had fun though, man, we had fun at that wedding.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
How do you a Hannibal parent?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Are you usually on the same page when it comes
to parenting or is one the good cop one bad cop?
Or how does that work in your house?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
You know, Hannibal is the good cop, Santa Claus Hannibal.
He leads me to do all the dirty work, and
I don't mind. I don't mind it at all, just
like my mother didn't mind.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I think you don't mind a little more than your mother.
You really don't mind going here and teary all cheering.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I don't because you don't want your kid to go.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Out there and have a false sense of anything.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
The snowball parenting is what's ruining children now.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, because nobody's gonna treat them the way you're treating them.
You're sending them out there to get their feelings really hurt,
you know, when you're not doing that policing at home
with your kids.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
But I was curious about that.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You know, Gerald was in Michigan, and I was fortunate
in that when he was growing up, he did have
men in his life that were influential and people that
I trusted.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
My uncle Buddy. Didn't everybody have an uncle Buddy.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
My uncle Buddy, My stepdad Owens, a friend of ours, Jimmy,
who is still in his life. His uncle Rodney, who
like my uncle Buddy, was everybody's daddy. We called them
every time anytime a kid got out of hand, we
would call Rodney. So he had people in his life
that I trusted to lead him in the right way,
(24:41):
because I mean, I can be a great mom and
I can fill a lot of gaps, but.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It takes some man to show a man how to
be a man.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I can't be a man, and there are certain things
that need to come from a man, but it has
to be someone that you trust absolutely.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
That's also something I like about the show too, is
that everybody in the house had to say values. I mean,
the kids got the message, whether it was from the parents,
with it from Aunt Rachel, whether it's from Grandma, top
to bottom, the message gets sent.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, that's true, and that's important. You know, unification in
a family is very important because you know, kids will
use you.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
They'll run to this one and try that. That didn't work.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, let me go over here and nah baby kind
of say what she said, but not exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
See if I can get away with that. You know,
they'll work you, they will work.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh. Yeah, we try to have one voice. And my
mother lives with us too, so everybody we get together
to strategize.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Try to stay on the same page. Yeah, that's great,
this is what we're doing. That's great. I want to
ask you, Kelly, now your kids are in school, what
are your expectations for your kids? I mean, how do
you manage that?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Well, my kids are pretty good at monitoring themselves, so
I definitely don't try to put any more pressure than
they put on themselves, because they can get a little
crazy with the expectations that they have personally. So no,
I don't put any more pressu on them because they
(26:04):
can beat up on themselves. Sometimes and I don't want
that at.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
All, exactly exactly now I had with Gerald. Of course,
I mean there were expectations, but because I knew his capabilities,
so I couldn't wander in with a CD and something,
I'm like, excuse you. But at the same time, there
was not you got to come home with straight a's,
you know, I expected him to come home with the
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kinds of grades that I knew he could get. He
was very smart, got very bored in school sometimes and
talk too much, but was smart, just not always focused.
But when it came down to it, like when he
got ready for college, he was so dedicated to taking
classes and extra classes and everything so that he could
(26:51):
get into the college that he wanted to get into,
which was UCLA, which you know, you could only get
in there with the grades. And he determined that that's
where he was going, and he did it and I
didn't have to do anything except support him. But yeah,
there were expectations, but I tried not to put that
kind of pressure on.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
And I think that my kids have forgotten really good
at I don't want to give them information for information's sake.
I want them to learn how to think, which is
what they're gathering, so I think I'm trusting the process.
So it's not really about a grade specifically, it's more
about are you learning how to learn?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
For me?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
That's good that, Kelly, I have to remember that. Probably
forgot it already. What did you say.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
That far?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But I like that. I like that a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So the next episode is similar with Carl and his
pressuring Eddie about something.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Now he's got to be a basketball star. Poor poor Eddie.
He just goes from one sweat shop to another. But
we'll get into that on our next podcast. Correct, we
also have a very best your guests who can tell
us a lot about Carl and Eddie's father's son Bond.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Who could that be?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Kelly Williams, Oh.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
The fabulous, the illustrious, the talented, Reginald L. Johnson.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
A Yes, Carl Winslow, Yes, yes, yes, yes, he will
be with us and that's gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
But look, I guess things didn't work out with you
and Old Island since Rachel seemed very interested in the
Harvard recruiter.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
What's your point? You can't keep a man, I'm a
bluesy what else?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So, family, we want to do a little segment on
the podcast called y'all in the Family Now. This is
where we have fans come on and chat with us
just to talk a little bit about what family matters
means to them.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
That's right, and I love this part. So our guest
today is a man called Howard who lives in Atlanta.
And you just ran into him at Whole Food's right too.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, just grabbing some groceries and he was working in
the prepared food section. When he saw me, girl, his
whole face lit up, and then we had the best conversation.
So I knew I wanted to bring him on the podcast.
Oh girl, he is so excited to meet you. I
ignored me. I hurt my feelings because I thought he
was all about me. He was till he found out you,
(29:22):
and he was done with me.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Oh well, I cannot wait to meet him too. This
is so cool. We love meeting you guys. That is
so awesome. Okay, so let's do it.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
Yes, Hi, Kelly, Oh my, hi Kelly? How are you wait?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Tell my? Hen talking about you NonStop since we started.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Welcome Howard, Welcome to the Family Hour. You're part of
the family now.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Lord, I'm sitting up here with Laura Winslow. Rachel loved it.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
My mother, if she was allowed today, she would be
so proud. She would be shocked.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I'm so glad you could be with us today. You've
talked to our crack team.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You know, they had to find you, Howard, because I'd
give them the wrong name. First of all, I was
telling the story and Jad looked at me and said,
and did you get his phone number? And I was like, hey,
see what happened. But thank goodness, because we have a
crack research team and they not found you, found your
boss got you. I'm just so so pleased that you
(30:30):
could be with us. Why don't you, first of all
tell us a little bit about yourself, and then if
you don't mind talking about what family matters meant to you,
or how it affected your life or you're growing up
or whatever, because I know you was just a tiny
baby when we started watching, right.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
Yeah, but okay, let me go a little bit into
my story. Okay, all right, I'm an only child. My
mother was number fourteen out of fifteen kids. She had
me when she was eighteen, so pretty much she ended
up being addicted to drugs or whatever. The family Dynamics
was weird. But one thing my mom always did was
(31:08):
she used to always sit me down and we used
to always look at give me a break together. Shut up.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So it's deeper than family matters.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I love my gosh, you didn't tell me that we used.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
To look at it, give me a break together.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
And I don't really want to be telling all my
business on here, but they say every everyday guy always
had a female that he holds onto.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
I held on to ad Ok.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You gonna make me cry. I gotta give me some
kiss ue.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
I became conscious of what I was watching probably about
maybe five or six. So by that time, Give Me
a Break was in syndication, and I remember me being
upset because I remember Neil going back and forth to
New York. But I didn't know the show was Indy,
So when it ended, I felt a void. But then
(32:00):
and Family Matters at Rachel and I was like, Oh,
that's Eddie.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's so cool.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I love that. I'm so sweet.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
So then when Family Matters came out, it was good
because Family Matters, in my opinion, gave me the realest
black family.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Thank you, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Not to take away from the other popular Black Family,
which we all love, but Family Matters had something I
don't know what it was that I knew Laura, I knew.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Eddie Hell, I even see.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Those people. Yeah, so it just comes all seems like
it all comes full circle.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Wow, But you don't even know that. That's like the
biggest compliment that you could ever give to an actor,
that they project characters that are extraordinarily ordinary, so that
you should know these people in your life, that they
would mirror people that you actually know or want to
be around or are in family with. So that's super cool.
(33:12):
I love that.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
I was going to finish in saying as far as
you miss Williams, you know I've watched you on Family Man,
as you know, and especially out of anybody, you were me.
If I can make sense, I could put myself in
a lot of Laura's situations, with situations how she treated Steve,
I could kind of relate to that. And the thing
(33:35):
of it is in fan theory, I want to say
she had anxiety.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Uh huh, Laura Winslow had anxiety.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
And what's funny is, even though they are two separate characters,
I can see how Laura translated into Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Oh yeah, what Yeah. Yeah, So when we went.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
To go Baby, I could see where a lot of
Laura's frustrations. Even though they have two different characters, I
can see the word's frustrations.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
What lean on to me in Tuesday? Yeah, Tuesday, I'm
gonna snatch that.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Did you put Baltimore too?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Okay, you gotta ask somebody. She's good, Yeah, she hood.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
You didn't take a nice all to ride forward? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know what's so great about this too? It just
reminds me of a tour that I did when we
were doing Family Matters and we were doing a lot
of news shows and stuff like that, and people were
telling me, I invite you into my home more often
than I do my relatives because I want you there
every week. And you know, I mean really straight, white,
stodgy news type guys. We're talking about how they have
(34:43):
to be home by eight o'clock because it's become a
whole thing, you know, with the family that they make
the effort to get from the newsroom to home. So
what Howard is giving us is a little piece of that.
And Howard, I gotta tell you, you brought a tear
to my eye, for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You didn't tell me about the whole Addie connections.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
I was like, yes, wow, what about it is though
as a child I connected to Eddie. I don't know
why I connected to Eddie.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, I'm glad you did. I'm glad you did.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I'm so thankful that you came on and shared your
story with us, and.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Now you've been adopted into the family.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Thank you, y'all. Just gonna know how all this comes
for a circle for me.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Thank you so much for being a part of the family.
We adore you of the family.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
We may have to call you again because we got
your phone number.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Okay, I'm here.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
Thank you, mss Hopkins. Y'all have made my oh I
just oh my.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
God, you made ours to Howard. Believe me, this just
makes my heart happy.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
I'll never going to forget this. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Oh my goodness. It was so cool talking to Howard.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
And we're definitely going to have to do more of
y'all and the family on the show because that was
so much y on. So, if you have something to
share with us, check out our website. We have a
link there where you can leave a voicemail. We might
just give you a call back.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I noticed her or you could just run into Tell
Me a Whole Foods, like, oh, howie there.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yep, that's it for this week. But stay tuned.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, We're going to rewatch each episode of Family Matters
week by week, so make sure to rewatch the show
right along with us. You can catch it on Hulu
and TBS and a bunch of other places.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Welcome to the Family with Telma and Kelly is a
production of iHeart Podcasts and Audiation. It's hosted by me
Telma Hopkins and me Kelly Williams. Our executive producers are
Sandy Smalling's for Audiation, Adam Rip, JD Hopkins, who also
happens to be my son and Kelly's fobro, and Jonathan
Strickland for iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
The show is produced by telman I, but our series
producer is Irelen Mitcham and our theme songs lyrics were
written by JD. Hopkins and Adam RiPP. The theme song
was scored and mixed by Matt Noble, who's also our
series mixer.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And we'd like to thank Nikki Etour and the entire
iHeart podcast team.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Thank you, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Follow us on Instagram A Welcome to the Family Pod
for behind the scenes photos and more bonus content.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
And don't forget to leave us a voicemail at our website,
Thefamilymatterspod dot com. We want to hear your thoughts and
favorite memories of the show and let us know if
you need advice, because we're good for some bad advice.
We might be able to help you with your own
Family Matters.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
And make sure to rate and review us wherever you're listening.
We are so excited to have you guys along for
the ride. Yes, Welcome to the family, y'all, and we'll
see you next time.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Welcome to the Familie
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Audiation.
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