July 16, 2025 • 45 mins
Tisha's fiancée is joining the Par-Tee! Ashlee Driver shares her career pivot into the golf industry, being the creative marketing genius behind Tisha's new women's golf apparel line Alyn, and their future plans for having a family. Plus, the two play a fun rapid-fire game to reveal just how well they know each other.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I know people know that you work hard.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I wish they knew how much you truly care and
how intentional you are, and how seriously you take every job.
I don't think people realize that you have three to
four projects going on at once. I don't think they
realize why you work this hard. You quite literally probably
were put on this earth to break that generational trauma
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and create this new legacy, and I feel like you
carry the weight of that on your shoulders. People don't
know that you were sleeping in your car when you
were trying to be a pro, fighting for your life,
and that's why you do what you do.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Do not make me cry? Right now? Is doing me cry?
What is going on? Y'all? I am so so so
excited for today's guest.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
This is a guest that has been asked about very
very often, especially on my social media. She was formerly
the creative producer and social lead for Los Angeles Golf
Club and then started her own company called Beyond the Wake,
crafting captivating content, building communities, helping other talents and athletes
build their social platforms, and also just telling stories that
really hit. She is an incredibly talented photographer, creative director,
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marketing expert and all around amazing and beautiful person. But
I guess I'm also a little bit biased because yes,
she happens to be my fiance. I am so excited
for you all to meet my favorite human on this
planet and also the love of my life that I
am so so grateful for. We're going to share how
we met and how she got into the golf world,
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and so much more. Please welcome my dear fiance, Ashley
joy Driver.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
To the car Tea.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Hey, honey, I'm very excited.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So you've always wanted a podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've always wanted a podcast and it's been on my
vision board for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Now, well, now you're here.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
So usually before we get started, we always start with
a fun little game. I kind of told you a
little bit about it last night.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, but prep you. But this is all about how
well do we know each other?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Okay, so it's rapid fire questions, but we're gonna answer
it how the other.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Person would answer it. Okay, does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay, all right, So the first one, are.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We saying this at the same time or am I
just guessing what you?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Let's say, you're going to guess what would choose. We're
gonna say at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Okay, you're ready, all right, So the first one is ready,
golf or beach?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Beach? Beach. I thought you were going to count it down.
I was ready.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You would definitely choose beach. I would choose beach.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't think people realize this, but you actually don't
enjoy golfing in your free time any time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm just like, hey, I want to go golfing.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
No correction, I like golf.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just telling someone who may love their job in finance,
do you want to go to the office.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
When golf is what you do eighty percent of the
time for your work.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Like, okay, favorite place in the world, you're gonna tell
me what you think my favorite place is in the world.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm gonna tell you what I think yours is. Okay, ready?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh with you? Yeap with me?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Just me and you in Hawaiian world. No, you're right,
I would definitely say Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Wherever you are is where I want to be.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You say so many different places.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So favorite place of the world is anywhere you are,
but where there's saltwater.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You want to go to the Swiss Alps. You want
to go to Europe, but I haven't been there yet.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Favorite ice cream flavor, same time, yeap three two one,
bubble Road.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Oh absolutely right, right, mine's Rocky Road.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Y'all, no one come for me about the bubble gum flavor.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I really thought it was going to be a deal breaker.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I was.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was a red flag. It was a red flag.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know how couples are, It's like, oh, he's a ten,
butter she's a ten. Yours was she's a ten, but
she uses Apple music.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, I'm like, I can never have a bite of yours,
so I would never want it. She loves when there's
bubble gum at the bottom of the head.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I need bubble gum in the ice cream.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, okay, go to karaoke song three to one Valerie
floor and.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
My favorite is Valerie.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah yeah, your go to a Selena Komola floor.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, she goes crazy. Guys, there's a dance with it
and everything.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I love my singing. I do, but it's always that
or what other song is it?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Do you like to choose that one? Like Disney song?
Don't you what's it called?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It's the Frozen song?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Why do you like the hardest on the sea.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
We have many talents, and singing is not one of them.
The way we like to perform when we karaoke's pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's pretty crazy. We belt it out.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, all right, pet peeve of one another each other, okay,
all right, three to one, never putting things back. When
I take your charger, she gets so mad when I
take her charger.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's seriously.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
There are many things I do that probably just are
like my little qualms and quirks, but literally, when you
take my charger, I'll be like, honey, where's my charger?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I don't know. You get so mad.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I don't know, but my charger just better be on
the wall. Literally.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Or two women, all right, we're gay and we share. Actually,
he takes my things, and god forbid, I'd take her
charge of one time. She could take my computer charger,
but god forbid, I take her phone charge of. This
game over, okay, So that's it for a little bit
of four play, and now we're going to dive into us.
I feel like a lot of people share a lot
of the same questions, So we're going to answer a
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lot of what people have been asking us.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
How did we meet?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We met through a mutual friend.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Shout out to coach Rusty.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Shout out to coach Trustee.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He is a creator and now he's an artist, paint artist,
doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We love him.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
He lived in Orlando. I was living in Orlando at
the time, and I saw a picture of you on
his story and I was feeling really confident that day.
I had been single for a while. At that point.
I just slid into his DMS and I said, when
are you going to introduce me? Yeah, and he said,
oh my god, she's so available, and then the rest
was history.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
The rest was history.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think within forty five minutes you were following me
and I literally messaged you and I said, that was fast.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, from there, mind you.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
She was actually a very slow messager and she was
based in Florida, so I.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Didn't think anything could happen.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And then, of course DMS led to text message. Text
message led to voice message, then it led to facetimes.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And all her long phone call phone calls, falling asleep
on the phone together.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Then I was like, why don't I just come over?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, and it was you just bopped over real quick
on your.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Way home California.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I literally just visited for two nights lo and behold,
here we are.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Here we are literally just from a slide into the
DM's shout out to Coach Rusty.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's because of him that we were able.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
To give better.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
When a mutual friend introduces you, because you have that
mutual friend to check, you're like, hey, they're legit, right.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I did ask Coach does she look like her pictures?
Because you know, I've be't catfished quite a few times.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
On the dates.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
And he goes, oh, God, no, she's like way hotter
in person. I'm like, so bum, she's gay.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
He was honest.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'll take that remark.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm glad he was.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
We are.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
So I want to dive into gear upbringing in your childhood.
I think I've always known you to be such a
creative human being. You're also an amazing photographer, you work
in marketing. But at what point did you realize growing
up that being a creative was.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like your thing?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Probably early on, as young as maybe eight nine and ten,
I was always doing things with my hands.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I love to paint.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
My mom would drop me off at Michael's for these
summer courses. I was the only kid in these classes
surrounded by forty year old women taking painting classes. But
I used to do paint and then I would make
jewelry and sell that our garage sales. I did a
lot of things. I've made pillows and stitch things.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know. I was always doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And it was until six or seventh grade when digital
cameras became a really big thing and I had my
first tangible camera. I picked up a camera and I
started just shooting landscapes in my backyard. I knew that
I kind of always said an't eye because of my grandma.
My grandmother is an incredible photographer.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So would you say that she kind of did she
get you into it?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I would say so, yeah, in a way. I always admired.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
She has this incredible collection of vintage cameras in the
room I used to sleep in growing up, and I
remember is always staring at the cameras. She made a
couple covers of magazine back in her hometown, and I
always thought that was really cool. And when I started
to get into it, she was the first person I
would reach out to.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now she has me NonStop unsolicited advice.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
She does Grandma, Grandma Linda be in the DMS or
She'll be in the public forums just say in how
she feels.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But we love Grandma.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
She'll be in my comment like it's a private chat.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Mom.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Fun fact, Ash is actually like eight percent Filipino. She
will literally ride and die with that percentage. Gone forbid
anything else. But for those that actually are wondering, Yeah,
you're actually half Mexican.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yes, you're actually a melting pot.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm a giant melting pot. I did do that twenty
three and me thing. It lit up like a Christmas tree.
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I said that I was half Mexican my entire life,
because my mother is from Mexico. That came back as
fifty one percent Indigenous American. My dad I always said
he was Irish in Filipino because his great grandfather was
the full Filipino in our family.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But my father is a redhead with blue eyes. Did
it make sense?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
When I got the ancestry report back, it said I
was Portuguese Eastern European Asian Pacific islander. It said so
many things, and I was like, I don't really know
what to say, so I'm just going to say Filipino
Mexican proudly.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We like it.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
We're going to claim it. I'm full Filipino, so therefore
that's what we love.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
With red hair.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I love your red hair. Can you explain to everyone
what it is that you do? I feel like you
get this a lot. Maybe it's clear on social media.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, because I don't know how to stick to one
niche on there. But I just say, I'm a creative marketer.
I feel like there's two types of marketers of the world,
and there's like the very analytical insight type of marketer,
and then there's like, you know, the fa la la
la la.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yes, the fun marketing, the fun marketing. I'm a creative marketer,
and I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That actually encomes to so much though you actually help
build brands.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You do photography.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I think if you work in marketing, you warn
at least three different hats at any marketing role. If
you've worked at a startup, it's probably more. You've worked
at corporate, You've worked at least three different roles in
your marketing role.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's right. I feel like you just honestly do it all.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yes, I do it all. I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
My favorite is brand strategy, content strategy, ideation. I think
in content concep now at this point, which is funny.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, we talk in social media.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I do a lot of things because I love a
lot of things, you know. I think that's just kind
of one of my ADHD superpowers that we always talk
about is that I really passionate about a lot of things,
and I love to learn. You know, if there's something
that I don't know how to do, I'm going to
do as much research as possible to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I want to actually touch a little bit on golf.
What was your experience in golf before even meeting me?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Honestly, nothing, just a lot of mini put putt golf
growing up as a kid. I had done to top
golf a couple of times with friends, but I've thrown
a lot of events at top golfs too.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And now, what was your first impression of golf and
how do you feel about the game now?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
My first impression of golf was Scottsdale, Arizona Waste Management Weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's a crazy event impression, but.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I realized, like I realized like, oh waste wand had
been like that was probably the I knew that was
the craziest tournament of the season, but I didn't know
to what capacity. And that was also the first time
that I had seen you in the public light on
a red carpet. It was just a lot of new
but I was just soaking it in, and you know,
I'm always just happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That's what I was. I was happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
What do you think of the game now?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, that was a crazy party.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's like the only version of golf that I kind
of know, which is like it's always been cool because
that's the version I know. I think it's an incredible sport.
I think it's the most humbling sport. If you think
you're going to pick up a club for the first
time and be good at it, think again. I can
ride any board on water, that's where I come from.
But you put a club in my hand for the
first time, and I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Why can't I do this? But I love golf now.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think there's so much opportunity for growth with women
in the game, creatively in the game as well.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'm obsessed with it. I love that it's a game
you can play any age too.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So do you like playing golf or do you prefer
watching on the sidelines, not a TriNet.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I love playing golf and I would be out there
with you. I'm on the sidelines. You already know that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
PG Torr called me Ashley behind the ropes driver.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's right. First tour events.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I was supposed to shoot for LAGC. I was in
the ropes. God forbid. I had a big behind the
ropes thing and I said, yeah, I'm going to get
the shot because I'm that person who will do anything.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
To get the choice.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
She was inside the ropes. She got her wrist slap
for that one. But also Colin Colin Morikawell, I called
you over it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We're friends or not friends friends, but you guys are
more friends than me, right, So it was like, hey,
come on, hang, it was amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
What would you say is your favorite memory in golf
or on the course.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, obviously it's gonna be with you.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Probably that epic hybrid shot that I took and it
was like dead straight, dead center, perfect sound, incredible at
that resort sensing Porcupine Creek.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It was so pretty.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That whole day is by far my best memory in
golf because we had that entire course to ourselves. They
were bringing us no bo out on the course. I
was like, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So now that you're in the golf social media.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
World, what are your thoughts about the world that you
see now, Because now this has been three or more
years and I feel like this is now all we
do is live, breath die.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I know everyone's like, oh, do you golf? I'm like
kind of just married to the game at this point.
But creatively, I think golf is just now starting to
catch up with other brands coming from other sports like
red Bull, surfing, wakeboarding, all that stuff, the extreme sports.
Their foundation is thinking outside of the box coming from
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that industry and to golf, all I want to do is.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Push the limits.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But sometimes when you work with the bigger brands or
the corporate brand, there's so many levels of approval processes
which almost holds you back in a sense. But I
think people are starting to catch up and take it seriously,
and I genuinely think that in golf people are starting
to take the creators more seriously.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I think it's a good point.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, I do feel like the talent, especially among anyone
who's in the golf social world, is very undermined. A
lot of these in are really good and knowledgeable. Let's
get becoming oversaturated now. But I think people just don't
realize how good no these girls are.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Not only that, but I think that when it comes
to creators as a whole people that you're just out
there filming your life and posting it. Now, there is
so much content ideation that goes into a process. You
are writing a script, if you're like me, you're writing
a shot list because you know how to stay organized
and you just want to get shit done. But it
is quite literally a mini production. And then if you
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are working with a brand and it's for to liver Bowl,
you're probably going to get two to three revisions all
over again.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Take creators seriously.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The creators worked their asses off.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
The editor or the shooter or the actor, the producer,
the scriptor you name it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Quite literally everything.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
There's two people in this world, the people who create
the content and the people who watch them.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I forget that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
So I feel like ever since you've been with me,
life has changed pretty dramatically for you.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You don't say, you don't say, don't well, I would love.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
To hear from you. What has been the biggest adjustment.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think that's in two parter.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Actually, the first one, obviously, is just the nature of
your job, being on the go constantly. I think that's
been the biggest adjustment because I am in activities girly.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I love to be out.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm always like, so what are we do in But
you travel so much that when you're home, I get it,
you want to be home, and so naturally I fell
into homebodiness too, which I love, but we always forget
that we live in Los Angeles. I'm like, oh my gosh,
we need to get out the house more.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Know, So I think that's just adjustment. Was your overall
travel schedule. But I travel a lot too in my
last job, So it wasn't that I was not used
to you being gone. It was just how frequently, Like
sometimes you're gone for two and a half weeks, yeah,
three weeks, and then sometimes there's months in a row
where it's two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, right. I
think the other thing would be the biggest adjustment. But
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my favorite adjustment is by far the Filipino culture. Yeah,
it's absolutely one hundred person. That was a big adjustment
in terms of the culture. You just learn how to
take shit, man, you just learn it. And you don't
take anything from my mom. From Mama c yeah, you
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don't take anything in personal. That was a big addressment
because I was like, she's just sounding it like it is.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
She's like, eat more, eat more, Wow, you gain weight.
I'm like, mother, please stop talking.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
God you keep asking us to eat.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, Mama se be ruthless sometimes, but we love. But
how do you feel like the adjustment has been for you?
Kind of not being in the spotlight people that I
have been with it did not smooth overwell.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But I feel like you've handled it with like so
much grace.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I think the beginning was the biggest adjustment, obviously, like
an influx of people interested in who I was and
following me and try to figure out everything about us
that was kind of interesting. And then you get a
lot of inevitable trolls and like the haters and stuff.
And that used to get to me at first, just
because I'm a firm believer and come from their foundation
that sometimes people just need a good punch in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And you do fight them.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I say that a lot because I'm just like, sometimes
you just can't let people get away with that, and
I used to give into it a little bit, but
now I quite literally ignore that. You know that kind
of trolley stuff that weighs out with in the beginning,
How do you attract bees with honey? I literally am
so sweet back to them. And there was this one
guy he said something really kind of hurtful and I
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think his name was Jeremy, and I said, Jeremy, that
was not Jeremy. That was not very nice. I don't
think you thought before you sent that. He apologized, Oh
he did.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I didn't even know about that.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Biggest adjustment was it was that at first, I honestly
feel like I'm such a chameleon, so I just adapted
very quickly.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Did I feel like you kind of just jumped on
this roller coaster ride with me and you just kind
of went with the wind, and you were like, oh
my god, why are we going so fucking fast?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I got on the ride and I was like, oh
my god, how long is this ride?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm like forever? If you want it, Oh.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I want it. Bib I was just like, dang, she's fast.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
What has been your biggest moment since hopping on this
roller coaster? Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Probably with the essencly porcing Bide Creek experience. That was incredible,
single pore. It took us so long to get there,
and it was so stressful because my passport had been
chewed up by a dog and I genuinely did not
know if I was going stuck in that flight. We
almost didn't make the flight because my passport was such
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an issue just at Lax. But once we made it
into that room at Marina Bay Sand's crazy richations by
the way, if you don't know that hotel, the most
stunning hotel. And we walked into that room and I
ripped the curtain. I saw the gardens by the bay.
I literally started crying.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Because it did start crying. It is such a beautiful and.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Then you think about it, you think, how am I here?
My fiance works in golf. That was a huge pitch
the moment.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And you also got to meet Tiger.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, that's definitely an obvious pinchbee moment. That was really
cool to see that at first, and it was just
funny to be around him. I got to take his picture,
you know, meet Charlie. Very firm handshake. I will say
I matched him with a strong eye content. Yeah, but
it was funny because I had taken a picture. I
shot a photo of you and Tiger, remember, and it
ended up on an article because people saw that you
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were his new girlfriend. Yes, there was an article saying
that you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Did all in. Oh, Tiger's new lady, and I was like, no,
actually I'm the lady, and I took.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
It was so funny.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
It was crazy. Okay, God forbid I stand next to
the legend. We were five feet away.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
God forbid, quite literally, forbid, you'd be a pretty lesbian
standing next to Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You just know, so I want to actually get into
now your career. You work in marketing.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, so marketing.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I started in an entry level marketing position at a
marine manufacturer company in the boating industry and the watersport industry.
I was always passionate about water sports. But when I
got that job, that job literally fell into my lab.
I had done an incredible excursion to the Bahamas Sixth
Island trip for Boating Magazine with Roswell at the time,
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and I met the guys on that trip and we
just clicked. And so they were like, hey, we've got
this marketing position. We think you'd be great. And that
is quite literally where I learned full steam ahead everything
there is to know about marketing, and then anything I
didn't know I taught myself. I was very much hungry
at that point, you know. I was like, I'm going
to say yes to everything, like, hey, Ash, could you
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do this? Yes, even if I don't know how, I'm
going to learn and figure it out. But as soon
as I left Roswell, I knew that I had just
found an even bigger passion for the sport because I
had always wakeboarded.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Since I was a young kid.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But something about the athletes, I knew that they needed
help because I don't think a lot of people know
that wakeboarding was an insanely big sport back of the day,
you know, X Games, sponsored by rock Star, Monster, all
those big brands, and unfortunately it's kind of a dying
sport right now.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
There's just no more money in it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And I got really good at my own social media,
and then got good at obviously I'd built Roswell's social
media so well that I had a couple athlete friends
and people reach out to me just asking for help
on their own personal brands. I can probably do this,
you know. And then beyond the wake is just where
that came from.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That name.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You're a water baby too.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm a water baby.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
For those that don't know what Roswell is, it's a
company within like the water.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Sports worlds for speakers.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
It's so yeah, I'm still very passionate about the company
marine manufacturer, but audio. So it's an audio company. So
we did like the Sickest event. It was like the
Sickest speaker. You know, we were doing Miami Boat Show
for Laudlder Boat Show. We were in Miami, whining and dining,
you know, our OEM's and all this stuff is a
very lavish lifestyle in marketing, and I was young at
the time, so I was.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Like, wow, this is cool.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And then you met me and transitioned your marketing knowledge
into the golf world. So tell me about entering the
golf world.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I don't think people realize this, but obviously when I
moved out to LA you realized, holy shit, I have
to start all over again. And I don't think that
hit me until I was actually here. We're finally in La,
settled in our new home. I was literally at the
right place at the right time. I was applying for
marketing jobs left and right. I think I applied for
over sixty job and I was just burnt out from
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that many rejections or ghost calls. We had heard about
Los Angeles Golf Club because Alexis o'hanian reach out to
you personally to be an investor, and I want you
to be a part of this, and so they reached
out and said, hey, we've got a little.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Event at time golf.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So we went and I finally got to meet the
incredible Kayla Green, who was their fractional CMO at the time,
and we just got to talking.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What do you do where you come from?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I told her obviously social media, brand strategy and all
the fun stuff. Her eyes got big and she was like,
oh my god, we need to can you use you? Yeah,
I'm doing the social media and I hate it. And
I was like, that was the door creeping open, And
I said, amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
When can you meet?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I said, Tish and I were leaving for my birthday
trip tomorrow, but the day I come back, let's meet
for coffee. We had like a two and a half
hour coffee meeting, and the restless history.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
The rest was history. I think I was like higher
number four or five with als Anger's Golf club as
a contractor. About that was my first entry into golf.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It was a crazy one because Los Angeles Golf Club
is one of six teams they're expanding within TGL, which
is a new Golf League simulator.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
One of the six cities.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It was just insane.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Because he hit the ground running building this thing, and
then I feel like everybody was going crazy over lagc's marketing.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So can you explain what you did for the team.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
As the inaugural team, we led the pack and if anything,
we had even more pressure on us because we had
launched the name, the logo, but we were already kind
of announcing hey we're here, yeah, our overall team and concept,
and we got pushed back the season. So we had
announced balloon popper anyone else. So literally, Kayla and I
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go into how are we going to keep growing this community,
keeping this community entertained and the season doesn't start for
a year and a half.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Now, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
So honestly, once I got with Kayla, I immediately jumped
into all things social media. I had pitched her what
the voice should breathe, the overall content strategy, the content pillars,
what kind of content we should be posting, then I
turned into creative producer. I was shooting photos at the time,
and then we hired Ryan Murray, the photographer. Once we
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hired him, I was able to take a step back
and do more of a producer role in oversight.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
More like a creative director handle all the events. You
basically built the brand between you and cal Green.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I feel like he built up AlgC and with the startup,
you're going to do absolutely everything, and I was passionate
about everything. So working with her, like we built the
complete creative voice in DNA of that team together.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You did incredible work. I've never seen like that kind
of grind.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It was really cool because obviously we had a lot
of pressure on ourselves to keep driving that momentum for
a year.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But it was cool because we set the.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Tone and everyone was like, oh, I want to be
like LAGC, like leading the hat, leading the pack, and
it was something so different that golf had never seen before.
And that was Kayla's idea. She was like Los Angeles
Golf Club, we are going full blown, straight city Angelino.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I said, all right, I can work with this.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
For those that don't know, we keep saying Kayla Green,
Kayla Green is an amazing CMO.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
She had built.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Built a city football club.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
She built up all kinds of brands, all kinds of teams.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
She's very passionate about. Yeah. Literally anything she touches turns
to gold.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
She's my mentor and my best.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
She is she is quite literally the best.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
And then after LAGC you also have done on things
in golf.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You model moved here, couldn't find a job anywhere. I
was trying to build up the clientele, and then Bad
Bertie reached out to you. I think forgetting that you
were with Puma at the time and we're like, we
need a model, and you were like, my girlfriend, Yeah,
hire her. And that's when I got to meet the
Bad Birdie team and I went out to Charleston and
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shot with them. They became family at that time, and
then I started shooting some photos for them once in
a while.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
U GC. I really started shooting photos a lot more. Yeah.
Now I actually help a couple of golf creators as well.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Now we're going to talk about all in.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Let's go a woman's golf apparel line, which now you
are a.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Huge part of your basically the other half to it.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I jumped on that train and then I said, let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I know, how was the experience and spin so far?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Launching all in with me, your personal work in it.
You are quite literally like the eyes and visuals behind
it all.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I think it's been amazing because it's already kind of
everything I was doing at Los Angeles Golf Club, so
I was able to just bring the grip mindset, and
then this is even more fun because you're my heart
and soul. This brand is my heart and soul. So
I think it's just been really fun having full creative freedom.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
But also it's been scary because.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
You say we're gonna do this, And remember I looked
at you a couple weeks before launch and I said, hey, honey,
you know this is like forever, right.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
This isn't just passion project.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
We don't know how to do things small, so I
literally all in. That's why I looked at it and
I said, I need you to know that this is
forever now.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, well here we are.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
What has been the biggest challenge, you'd say, for you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I think just us working together, just trying to learn
the dynamic of when to turn the business partner colleague
portion off and then be like, okay, we're actually future wives,
like let's make sure we turn it off and like
turn the work day off.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I think that's been the biggest adjustment.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Quick call out is the fact that my beautiful fiance
allowed us to push our wedding so that we can
launch this brand and we are going to get married.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
We promise and we will get into that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It was supposed to be April twenty twenty six. Now
we're hoping for fall. Now it's not the fart.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, what is your role in all In?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
We came up with this ridiculous title, like a week ago,
we were laughing about it.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's the Chief Brand and Creative Officer, but we just
call it CBBL.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I keep calling on the CBBL because I never member
come back from.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Like, you're the chief Brizilian Butler.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Chief brand and creative all things marketing creative at this
point until I can hire a team and bring them on.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Where do you want to see all In go? Where
do you think you can go?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I want it to be the fastest growing women's golf
where brand the country has ever seen. I wanted to
be the malbone of women's golf in terms of when
you think of those luxury brands, while I want women
to have that brand because I don't think there is
that brand yet, So I want to be on every
woman out there. You know. My goal for it is
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to be like the Kith of Golf. I really want
us to get into collaborations one day, but I'm going
to be really really excited about all the future events
and the community aspects of that. I agree all In
is founded on diversity inclusivity, so I think that's what
I'm most excited to make all in.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'm just so grateful that I have you with me
because there are so many times, especially when we don't agree.
The difficulties of working together is that we're both creative.
We're going to butt heads. But I've always told you
that I feel like whatever we create together is going
to be a magic and no one can compare. But so,
my God, the process to get the.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Idea well goes like this already, and you'll.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Like just make it come to life.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
For christ, this is a bit for me. The other day,
The mat are gonna hate me saying this.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But I literally was like, you know what, it really
is that easy when your girlfriend or your fiance, your
wife has a good idea. You just tell her that
is a great idea, and if it's not, you go, baby, yes.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, let's just like rework.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
But yeah, I was like, I'm just gonna support everything
you do because we'll save so much more.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Time anytime we disagree. There are moments where I'm like, gosh,
I don't know if this makes sense that we work together.
But then selfishly, I'm like, I don't want anyone to
have you.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Because because you're so good at what you do.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Like, if if any of you have looked at all
in golf, you look at the web, if you look
at the newsletters, if you look at the visuals, if
you look at the social media, like that is all
ash And if I ever had to give her up
to another brand, I would completely lose. I would lose
every battle. And I'm such a competitive person. Obviously I'm
also biased because she is my fiance, but like, you're
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just so good at thinking outside the box and bringing
a different energy and also really caring, you know, it's
not just a job. Like we obviously both really care
about the growth of women's golf.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I honestly, I don't think I would be able to
watch someone else do the things that I do, because
it'd be hard. I'd have to be at least orchestrating
what was happening. I don't think there's ever a world
where we could not work together at all.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I do feel like it takes a special couple to
be able to work together. And you were already traveling
with me and helping shoot and edit while on the road,
and now we have decided, you know, let's keep you home,
and now we're working all in and I feel.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Like we're well, I think, actually we make a really
great team. I really do.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, five honey, five girl.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
But I do want to actually dive into a couple things.
So we're going to try and keep some of the
story short. But I feel like I've been a broken
record when it comes to my coming out story. Sure,
and I would personally love for you to share with
the audience your coming out story.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, it's actually going to be a pretty short story
because I attempted to come out younger, like freshman year,
but I was almost outed at fifteen years old by
the varsity volleyball coach of my high school.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
At the time.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Oh, by the way, I had a friend who was
openly bisexual, and she was quite literally just a bestie.
But god forbid other girls see me hanging out with
a friend. Girls were really yappy back of the day,
and being gay, lesbian, bi openly and publicly was just
not common back then in high.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
School at least.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So there was a rumor that her and I had
made out on the bus on the way home from
an away game, and quite literally all I did was
rest by head on her shoulder. The next day, the
varsity coach told me I was going to be bench
and she screamed at me in front of the whole bus, saying,
the hell disgusting, disrespectful that would has been? And I
was like, I literally didn't do that. So I was like,
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I am never coming out now. But then fast forward
in my senior year at eighteen, I met a girl
and I was just obsessed.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It was like kind of like a pen.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I got drunk at a party once told my friend
that I was talking to a girl. The next day,
this big boy of a y apper told everyone. The
following day at school, my best friend Whitney texted me
and she goes, why are people saying that you're bisexual?
I was about to deny and I said it's because
I am. Later that day, I finally had to open
up to my dad because I had already been kind
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of in a funk, just sad over this girl.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
He said, what's going on with you? What's going on? Yeah,
he said nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He said is it a boy? Is it school? And
then he paused and he goes, is it a girl?
And I said yeah, and he said I love you.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He said it's going to be hard, and he said,
thank god. Now that means you can't get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Way to break the high school. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I think that's every dad's biggest fear.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, it sucks to hear the fact that you didn't
get to control your own coming out story and to
be completely demeaned and called out by a coach, which
if I ever find you, it's over for you. I'm
saying your name and I'm sharing it with all of
the social media in the world because that's super fucked up.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
But I'm just so glad that you know you were.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Accepted, especially by dad, because that would have been really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, that's my guy, that's my buddy.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh yeah, I am my father's daughter.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
You're also very open about your ADHD. Oh, yeah, And
I don't think people actually realize how difficult it is
to live with it. Can you share it with everyone
what it was like growing up?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, I don't think people realize that you have severe
it actually is. But I was diagnosed when I was
ten years old, so that was way before ADHD and
ADD was a little more common. Like ily remember the
first parenting books that came out, Parents had them in
the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So when you were diagnosed with ADHD at.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
That young an age, it was almost treating a little taboo,
kind of like you didn't know what to do with
that kid.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And I was medicated very quickly.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I was immediately put into the program where you get
more time on your test. So when I I was
a kid, I thought I was a problem, like something
was wrong with me, you know. Because of that medication,
I actually developed involuntary tics that I actually never talk about.
But there are these just like little impulsive ticks. It
could be anything. Some people sometimes mistake here for OCD.
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There's even a point where my grandmother thought that I
had Tourettes because the tics got so bad. But growing
up with that going on and off medication, the summer's
of the school year.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That was definitely the hardest part.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
In dating you and loving you. I really had to
learn and understand ADHD. And I think, what kind of
I guess not Maybe it kind of irks me is
that when people openly say like, oh, there goes like
my ADHD again, I'm like add and I'm like, no,
don't say that you don't understand, because I feel like
the way you've best described it to me, it's like
you constantly have five thoughts going in one.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I saw something funny the other day, it was like,
what's it like to have ADHD. It's like waking up
every morning waiting for an email to say I'm mad
at you and you're in big trouble. It's like waking
up with anxiety a little bit. You have four different
thoughts going on at once. But then I actually don't
think people realize when you do have severe ADD and ADHD.
It really does affect your relationships, your ability to get motivated,
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your ability to perform well in your job, and emotionships,
your emotions, it affects everything in your life. Every day
when you walk outside when you have ADHD, we're putting
on masks because we constantly have to adapt to the world.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
So what would you say is the best advice you
can give anyone who is struggling with ADHD when it
comes to work.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
When it comes to work, one hundred percent, you need
to find out what your coping mechanisms are as far
as like, what's going to keep you organized. I'm a
list writer. I have so many to do lists. I'm
even telling our Alexa to remind me to do things.
Reminders and notes are my thing. But I highly recommend
time blocking in your calendar because we can get really distracted.
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So find out genuinely what motivates you and hold on
to a baby.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
And how about when it comes to day.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
My biggest advice for if you're getting into a relationship
and you're starting to get serious and those feelings are
starting developed, or maybe you're already dating and it is
getting serious, definitely preface how bad it actually is for you.
If you are already aware of what your symptoms are
and how you navigate life. You didn't realize that it
takes me a month sometimes to full laundry.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
But I think just tell your part, not playing it
like quite literally.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Just I'll just look at the Oh, there's the laundry.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Again, King's crazy look at the laundry, though.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I think the best advice is give your partner a
heads up, tell them, Hey, you're gonna get frustrated with
me at times, but I just need to remind you
not to.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And now we've even developed too when you need my
full attention, you go, honey, I need your full attention,
and I put whatever's down, I turn the TV off,
mute at whatever I do, and I go, okay, yeah,
and I lock the fucking I will sick.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
And I will say, from being on the receiving end,
I think my best advice, and i'll piggyback off of that,
is you have to love your partner for who they
are because this is not something that's going to change.
There are times when it's going to improve, in times
when it's going to really hit the fan.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
The other day, what did I put in the fridge?
I think I put cereal in the fridge or ice
cream in the fridge the other day.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, you left the creamer and the pantry and you
put something that wasn't supposed to be in the fridge.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It's one of those things.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
But I also feel like, really understanding ADHD really learning
about it because I don't know what it's like to
wake up and not be decisive.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I'm a very decisive person.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
You know this of me, and it's been actually one
of our biggest struggles in our relationship and something that
we had to learn how to navigate very quickly.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
But I will say that when you're on the superpower
is insane. She can do ten things at once and
I'm like still working on the same thing. I can
lock in, she can lock in. It's crazy lock in
when it's down to the wire, that's when you lock in.
Oh yeah, At what point did you know that I
was it for you?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's a very sweet question.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
First phone call actually, the one that was like three
and a half hours. I knew that you were going
to be the one, if not someone extremely special in
my life because everything that you and I were saying,
we were literally just hammin egging it. The same experience,
same values, morals. I was like, she either she's my
soulmate or she was my best friend.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I knew that you were it after we finally met
in person. We had already been talking for like a
month and a half straight, like NonStop, like twenty four
hours a day when I met you in person, I'll
never forget that. We had the most incredible day and
a half.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, and I remember.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Being like, God, what if this doesn't work? And the
best case scenario happened. We had the best date ever.
I'll never forget when we flow danced together so sa
in your room, and I was like, I've always wanted
a partner that would just dance with me.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I always thought that too seriously. As soon as I
saw that you danced, I was like, thank god.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I just remember leaving that trip crying because I was like,
oh no, like.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, you called your best friend. I just started crying.
I called it a bitch, you're in trouble. She did
say that, that's what my friend said. She said bitch bye,
because I was facetiming my best friend. When you land
in my armpits were sweating, and as soon as you
got off that airplane, my smile went.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Like this because I picked you up at the gate
like a lady.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You did, and she was bye, that's right.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I called my best friend who it will be my
maid of honor and I didn't even have to say
a word, and she was just like I get it.
I understand, you don't need to say anything. I'm just
sobbing on this call. And she just knew me so well.
She knew that, oh it went so well that.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
My best friend found the person crazy. So we also
get this question all the time, so we might as
well just nip it in the butt. Honey, do we
want to have kids? And who's carrying the baby?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Me?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I am the oven. She was like, I am not
doing it. I said, all right, fine, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And in a perfect world, I feel like two kids
would be great.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, two is perfect. I mean one is a blessing.
People don't realize how expensive it is for two women
or two men, like you know, gay couples that actually
have a baby. So it's very intense. Process is a
very lengthy process. So I'd be blessed with one. Three
would be great.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
And for those that are wondering, we were actually going
to go through the process this year. We're going to
freeze our eggs and create embryos, to freeze embryos, and
we think that our first child hopefully will be half
me with our donor, and then hopefully the second child
will be half you.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
So I love carry your egg for the first one,
and then the second baby will be from my eggs. Yeah,
our babies are probably not gonna look much alike, but
they're gonna be the coolest kids in school.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
They will be.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
We're gonna be like, yes, you too are siblings. Yeah,
yes one is tanner then the other get used to it. Yes,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I love it. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
What is one thing that you wish people understood more?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
When it comes to me? And I'll answer about.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I think I wish people realize, Like, I know, people
know that you work hard. That's obvious, and the people
know how busy you are, but I wish they knew
how much that you truly care and how intentional you are,
and how seriously you take every job. You know, like
you're busy, But I don't think people realize that you
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have three to four projects going on at once. I
don't think they realize why you work this hard. You know,
you quite literally probably were put on this earth to
break that generational trauma and like create this new legacy genuinely,
and I feel like you carry the weight of that
on your shoulders, and people don't know that people don't
know that. You know, you were sleeping in your car
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when you were trying to be a pro, fighting for
your life, and that's why you do what you do.
That is why you work so hard, and that's why
you always fight. And I love that about you.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeahest we do not make me cry right now, don't
make me cry. I will say that one thing that
I wish people understood more about you is just.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
How talented you are.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I thought I was going to cry.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I'm really passionates. Obviously, I love to the to the
to the death of me. I'll literally be anyone up
for you. But no, Like, you're so talented, and I
know it's been hard since you moved to LA for me,
and I just it's been tough and I'm just.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
So grateful for you.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
But like, you're one of the most talented and most
you know, diverse people that I know, and you can
literally take anything on it.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
You just do it.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
And it breaks my heart when I see life hit
you really hard, because I'm like, God, you just deserve
the world and there's only so much that I can
offer you in this world, and I'll give you anything,
But I just wish people.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Like really saw you the way I saw you.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I wish you saw you the way I see you,
you know, because like you're the most beautiful person in
the world to me, and so I don't know, you're
my little golden retriever. Like you're the best thing that's
ever happened. Truly, I couldn't do this life without you.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
And this is our last question. We're gonna end on
a high. What is your favorite thing about us?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Honestly, I love how much fun we have, how playful
we are. Like and my grandma told me this, marry
your best friend, because looks said baby, And you want
to be on the couch or the porch with your
best friend who's going to make you laugh your ass off.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
And you and I laugh countly.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
We do.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
We feed into each other and we just laugh. Like
if you're not laughing with your partner, literally run like
you need to be laughing with your partner at least
once a day.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Oh, we love.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
That's so much more than my favorite thing.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I think that's my favorite thing is that I really
do feel like I am engaged and soon to be
married to my best friend. We laugh all the time,
and I remember the first time you made me laugh
and I was like, WHOA, I never cackled like that.
Well the end of another I just showed her my
ugly laugh.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, is that the Filipino cackle?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It is? And that's what I know.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I love that. I love you any thank you so
much for having me. No, thank you for joining and
by I'm like, look at me and just yapping away.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Well we just we just yep and yep. But you
work when everyone find you.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Everyone can find me at Ashley period Driver. That is
Ashley a s hl ee period driver. That's right on
everything on Instagram, TikTok everything.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
Welcome to the Party with Tasha Allen is an Iheartwoman's
sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports Entertainment.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
I'm your host, Tisha Allen.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Christina Everett is our executive producer, and Jennifer Bassett is
our producer. Sound mixing and mastering by Mary Doo. Special
thanks to Jesse Kastsett iHeart and to Jess McCallister and
the teams at GERSH and Catalyst nine. Listen to Welcome
to the Party with Tasha Allen on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I know people know that you work hard.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I wish they knew how much you truly care and
how intentional you are, and how seriously you take every job.
I don't think people realize that you have three to
four projects going on at once. I don't think they
realize why you work this hard. You quite literally probably
were put on this earth to break that generational trauma
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and create this new legacy, and I feel like you
carry the weight of that on your shoulders. People don't
know that you were sleeping in your car when you
were trying to be a pro, fighting for your life,
and that's why you do what you do.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Do not make me cry? Right now? Is doing me cry?
What is going on? Y'all? I am so so so
excited for today's guest.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
This is a guest that has been asked about very
very often, especially on my social media. She was formerly
the creative producer and social lead for Los Angeles Golf
Club and then started her own company called Beyond the Wake,
crafting captivating content, building communities, helping other talents and athletes
build their social platforms, and also just telling stories that
really hit. She is an incredibly talented photographer, creative director,
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marketing expert and all around amazing and beautiful person. But
I guess I'm also a little bit biased because yes,
she happens to be my fiance. I am so excited
for you all to meet my favorite human on this
planet and also the love of my life that I
am so so grateful for. We're going to share how
we met and how she got into the golf world,
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and so much more. Please welcome my dear fiance, Ashley
joy Driver.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
To the car Tea.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Hey, honey, I'm very excited.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
So you've always wanted a podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I've always wanted a podcast and it's been on my
vision board for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Now, well, now you're here.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
So usually before we get started, we always start with
a fun little game. I kind of told you a
little bit about it last night.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, but prep you. But this is all about how
well do we know each other?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Okay, so it's rapid fire questions, but we're gonna answer
it how the other.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Person would answer it. Okay, does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Okay, all right, So the first one, are.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We saying this at the same time or am I
just guessing what you?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Let's say, you're going to guess what would choose. We're
gonna say at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Okay, you're ready, all right, So the first one is ready,
golf or beach?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Beach? Beach. I thought you were going to count it down.
I was ready.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You would definitely choose beach. I would choose beach.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't think people realize this, but you actually don't
enjoy golfing in your free time any time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm just like, hey, I want to go golfing.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
No correction, I like golf.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Just telling someone who may love their job in finance,
do you want to go to the office.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
When golf is what you do eighty percent of the
time for your work.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Like, okay, favorite place in the world, you're gonna tell
me what you think my favorite place is in the world.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I'm gonna tell you what I think yours is. Okay, ready?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh with you? Yeap with me?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Just me and you in Hawaiian world. No, you're right,
I would definitely say Hawaii.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Wherever you are is where I want to be.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You say so many different places.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So favorite place of the world is anywhere you are,
but where there's saltwater.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You want to go to the Swiss Alps. You want
to go to Europe, but I haven't been there yet.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Favorite ice cream flavor, same time, yeap three two one,
bubble Road.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Oh absolutely right, right, mine's Rocky Road.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Y'all, no one come for me about the bubble gum flavor.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I really thought it was going to be a deal breaker.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I was.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was a red flag. It was a red flag.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You know how couples are, It's like, oh, he's a ten,
butter she's a ten. Yours was she's a ten, but
she uses Apple music.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, I'm like, I can never have a bite of yours,
so I would never want it. She loves when there's
bubble gum at the bottom of the head.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I need bubble gum in the ice cream.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, okay, go to karaoke song three to one Valerie
floor and.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
My favorite is Valerie.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Yeah yeah, your go to a Selena Komola floor.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, she goes crazy. Guys, there's a dance with it
and everything.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I love my singing. I do, but it's always that
or what other song is it?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Do you like to choose that one? Like Disney song?
Don't you what's it called?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It's the Frozen song?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Why do you like the hardest on the sea.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
We have many talents, and singing is not one of them.
The way we like to perform when we karaoke's pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's pretty crazy. We belt it out.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, all right, pet peeve of one another each other, okay,
all right, three to one, never putting things back. When
I take your charger, she gets so mad when I
take her charger.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's seriously.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
There are many things I do that probably just are
like my little qualms and quirks, but literally, when you
take my charger, I'll be like, honey, where's my charger?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I don't know. You get so mad.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I don't know, but my charger just better be on
the wall. Literally.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Or two women, all right, we're gay and we share. Actually,
he takes my things, and god forbid, I'd take her
charge of one time. She could take my computer charger,
but god forbid, I take her phone charge of. This
game over, okay, So that's it for a little bit
of four play, and now we're going to dive into us.
I feel like a lot of people share a lot
of the same questions, So we're going to answer a
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lot of what people have been asking us.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
How did we meet?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We met through a mutual friend.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Shout out to coach Rusty.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Shout out to coach Trustee.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He is a creator and now he's an artist, paint artist,
doing his thing.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
We love him.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
He lived in Orlando. I was living in Orlando at
the time, and I saw a picture of you on
his story and I was feeling really confident that day.
I had been single for a while. At that point.
I just slid into his DMS and I said, when
are you going to introduce me? Yeah, and he said,
oh my god, she's so available, and then the rest
was history.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
The rest was history.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I think within forty five minutes you were following me
and I literally messaged you and I said, that was fast.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, from there, mind you.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
She was actually a very slow messager and she was
based in Florida, so I.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Didn't think anything could happen.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And then, of course DMS led to text message. Text
message led to voice message, then it led to facetimes.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And all her long phone call phone calls, falling asleep
on the phone together.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Then I was like, why don't I just come over?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, and it was you just bopped over real quick
on your.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Way home California.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I literally just visited for two nights lo and behold,
here we are.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Here we are literally just from a slide into the
DM's shout out to Coach Rusty.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's because of him that we were able.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
To give better.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
When a mutual friend introduces you, because you have that
mutual friend to check, you're like, hey, they're legit, right.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I did ask Coach does she look like her pictures?
Because you know, I've be't catfished quite a few times.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
On the dates.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
And he goes, oh, God, no, she's like way hotter
in person. I'm like, so bum, she's gay.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
He was honest.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'll take that remark.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm glad he was.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And here we are.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
We are.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
So I want to dive into gear upbringing in your childhood.
I think I've always known you to be such a
creative human being. You're also an amazing photographer, you work
in marketing. But at what point did you realize growing
up that being a creative was.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like your thing?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Probably early on, as young as maybe eight nine and ten,
I was always doing things with my hands.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I love to paint.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
My mom would drop me off at Michael's for these
summer courses. I was the only kid in these classes
surrounded by forty year old women taking painting classes. But
I used to do paint and then I would make
jewelry and sell that our garage sales. I did a
lot of things. I've made pillows and stitch things.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I don't know. I was always doing that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And it was until six or seventh grade when digital
cameras became a really big thing and I had my
first tangible camera. I picked up a camera and I
started just shooting landscapes in my backyard. I knew that
I kind of always said an't eye because of my grandma.
My grandmother is an incredible photographer.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So would you say that she kind of did she
get you into it?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I would say so, yeah, in a way. I always admired.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
She has this incredible collection of vintage cameras in the
room I used to sleep in growing up, and I
remember is always staring at the cameras. She made a
couple covers of magazine back in her hometown, and I
always thought that was really cool. And when I started
to get into it, she was the first person I
would reach out to.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Now she has me NonStop unsolicited advice.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
She does Grandma, Grandma Linda be in the DMS or
She'll be in the public forums just say in how
she feels.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But we love Grandma.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
She'll be in my comment like it's a private chat.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Mom.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, she's so cute.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Fun fact, Ash is actually like eight percent Filipino. She
will literally ride and die with that percentage. Gone forbid
anything else. But for those that actually are wondering, Yeah,
you're actually half Mexican.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yes, you're actually a melting pot.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm a giant melting pot. I did do that twenty
three and me thing. It lit up like a Christmas tree.
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I said that I was half Mexican my entire life,
because my mother is from Mexico. That came back as
fifty one percent Indigenous American. My dad I always said
he was Irish in Filipino because his great grandfather was
the full Filipino in our family.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But my father is a redhead with blue eyes. Did
it make sense?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
When I got the ancestry report back, it said I
was Portuguese Eastern European Asian Pacific islander. It said so
many things, and I was like, I don't really know
what to say, so I'm just going to say Filipino
Mexican proudly.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We like it.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
We're going to claim it. I'm full Filipino, so therefore
that's what we love.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
With red hair.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I love your red hair. Can you explain to everyone
what it is that you do? I feel like you
get this a lot. Maybe it's clear on social media.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, because I don't know how to stick to one
niche on there. But I just say, I'm a creative marketer.
I feel like there's two types of marketers of the world,
and there's like the very analytical insight type of marketer,
and then there's like, you know, the fa la la
la la.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yes, the fun marketing, the fun marketing. I'm a creative marketer,
and I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That actually encomes to so much though you actually help
build brands.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You do photography.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I think if you work in marketing, you warn
at least three different hats at any marketing role. If
you've worked at a startup, it's probably more. You've worked
at corporate, You've worked at least three different roles in
your marketing role.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's right. I feel like you just honestly do it all.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yes, I do it all. I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
My favorite is brand strategy, content strategy, ideation. I think
in content concep now at this point, which is funny.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, we talk in social media.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I do a lot of things because I love a
lot of things, you know. I think that's just kind
of one of my ADHD superpowers that we always talk
about is that I really passionate about a lot of things,
and I love to learn. You know, if there's something
that I don't know how to do, I'm going to
do as much research as possible to figure it out.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I want to actually touch a little bit on golf.
What was your experience in golf before even meeting me?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Honestly, nothing, just a lot of mini put putt golf
growing up as a kid. I had done to top
golf a couple of times with friends, but I've thrown
a lot of events at top golfs too.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And now, what was your first impression of golf and
how do you feel about the game now?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
My first impression of golf was Scottsdale, Arizona Waste Management Weekend.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's a crazy event impression, but.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I realized, like I realized like, oh waste wand had
been like that was probably the I knew that was
the craziest tournament of the season, but I didn't know
to what capacity. And that was also the first time
that I had seen you in the public light on
a red carpet. It was just a lot of new
but I was just soaking it in, and you know,
I'm always just happy to be there.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That's what I was. I was happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
What do you think of the game now?
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, that was a crazy party.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
That's like the only version of golf that I kind
of know, which is like it's always been cool because
that's the version I know. I think it's an incredible sport.
I think it's the most humbling sport. If you think
you're going to pick up a club for the first
time and be good at it, think again. I can
ride any board on water, that's where I come from.
But you put a club in my hand for the
first time, and I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Why can't I do this? But I love golf now.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think there's so much opportunity for growth with women
in the game, creatively in the game as well.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'm obsessed with it. I love that it's a game
you can play any age too.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
So do you like playing golf or do you prefer
watching on the sidelines, not a TriNet.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I love playing golf and I would be out there
with you. I'm on the sidelines. You already know that.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
PG Torr called me Ashley behind the ropes driver.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's right. First tour events.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I was supposed to shoot for LAGC. I was in
the ropes. God forbid. I had a big behind the
ropes thing and I said, yeah, I'm going to get
the shot because I'm that person who will do anything.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
To get the choice.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
She was inside the ropes. She got her wrist slap
for that one. But also Colin Colin Morikawell, I called
you over it.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We're friends or not friends friends, but you guys are
more friends than me, right, So it was like, hey,
come on, hang, it was amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
What would you say is your favorite memory in golf
or on the course.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, obviously it's gonna be with you.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Probably that epic hybrid shot that I took and it
was like dead straight, dead center, perfect sound, incredible at
that resort sensing Porcupine Creek.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It was so pretty.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That whole day is by far my best memory in
golf because we had that entire course to ourselves. They
were bringing us no bo out on the course. I
was like, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
So now that you're in the golf social media.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
World, what are your thoughts about the world that you
see now, Because now this has been three or more
years and I feel like this is now all we
do is live, breath die.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I know everyone's like, oh, do you golf? I'm like
kind of just married to the game at this point.
But creatively, I think golf is just now starting to
catch up with other brands coming from other sports like
red Bull, surfing, wakeboarding, all that stuff, the extreme sports.
Their foundation is thinking outside of the box coming from
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that industry and to golf, all I want to do is.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Push the limits.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But sometimes when you work with the bigger brands or
the corporate brand, there's so many levels of approval processes
which almost holds you back in a sense. But I
think people are starting to catch up and take it seriously,
and I genuinely think that in golf people are starting
to take the creators more seriously.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I think it's a good point.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Yeah, I do feel like the talent, especially among anyone
who's in the golf social world, is very undermined. A
lot of these in are really good and knowledgeable. Let's
get becoming oversaturated now. But I think people just don't
realize how good no these girls are.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Not only that, but I think that when it comes
to creators as a whole people that you're just out
there filming your life and posting it. Now, there is
so much content ideation that goes into a process. You
are writing a script, if you're like me, you're writing
a shot list because you know how to stay organized
and you just want to get shit done. But it
is quite literally a mini production. And then if you
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are working with a brand and it's for to liver Bowl,
you're probably going to get two to three revisions all
over again.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Take creators seriously.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
The creators worked their asses off.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
The editor or the shooter or the actor, the producer,
the scriptor you name it.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Quite literally everything.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
There's two people in this world, the people who create
the content and the people who watch them.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I forget that.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
So I feel like ever since you've been with me,
life has changed pretty dramatically for you.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
You don't say, you don't say, don't well, I would love.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
To hear from you. What has been the biggest adjustment.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think that's in two parter.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Actually, the first one, obviously, is just the nature of
your job, being on the go constantly. I think that's
been the biggest adjustment because I am in activities girly.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I love to be out.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm always like, so what are we do in But
you travel so much that when you're home, I get it,
you want to be home, and so naturally I fell
into homebodiness too, which I love, but we always forget
that we live in Los Angeles. I'm like, oh my gosh,
we need to get out the house more.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Know, So I think that's just adjustment. Was your overall
travel schedule. But I travel a lot too in my
last job, So it wasn't that I was not used
to you being gone. It was just how frequently, Like
sometimes you're gone for two and a half weeks, yeah,
three weeks, and then sometimes there's months in a row
where it's two weeks, two weeks, two weeks, right. I
think the other thing would be the biggest adjustment. But
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my favorite adjustment is by far the Filipino culture. Yeah,
it's absolutely one hundred person. That was a big adjustment
in terms of the culture. You just learn how to
take shit, man, you just learn it. And you don't
take anything from my mom. From Mama c yeah, you
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don't take anything in personal. That was a big addressment
because I was like, she's just sounding it like it is.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
She's like, eat more, eat more, Wow, you gain weight.
I'm like, mother, please stop talking.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
God you keep asking us to eat.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, Mama se be ruthless sometimes, but we love. But
how do you feel like the adjustment has been for you?
Kind of not being in the spotlight people that I
have been with it did not smooth overwell.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But I feel like you've handled it with like so
much grace.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I think the beginning was the biggest adjustment, obviously, like
an influx of people interested in who I was and
following me and try to figure out everything about us
that was kind of interesting. And then you get a
lot of inevitable trolls and like the haters and stuff.
And that used to get to me at first, just
because I'm a firm believer and come from their foundation
that sometimes people just need a good punch in the mouth.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And you do fight them.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I say that a lot because I'm just like, sometimes
you just can't let people get away with that, and
I used to give into it a little bit, but
now I quite literally ignore that. You know that kind
of trolley stuff that weighs out with in the beginning,
How do you attract bees with honey? I literally am
so sweet back to them. And there was this one
guy he said something really kind of hurtful and I
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think his name was Jeremy, and I said, Jeremy, that
was not Jeremy. That was not very nice. I don't
think you thought before you sent that. He apologized, Oh
he did.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I didn't even know about that.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Biggest adjustment was it was that at first, I honestly
feel like I'm such a chameleon, so I just adapted
very quickly.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Did I feel like you kind of just jumped on
this roller coaster ride with me and you just kind
of went with the wind, and you were like, oh
my god, why are we going so fucking fast?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I got on the ride and I was like, oh
my god, how long is this ride?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm like forever? If you want it, Oh.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I want it. Bib I was just like, dang, she's fast.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
What has been your biggest moment since hopping on this
roller coaster? Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Probably with the essencly porcing Bide Creek experience. That was incredible,
single pore. It took us so long to get there,
and it was so stressful because my passport had been
chewed up by a dog and I genuinely did not
know if I was going stuck in that flight. We
almost didn't make the flight because my passport was such
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an issue just at Lax. But once we made it
into that room at Marina Bay Sand's crazy richations by
the way, if you don't know that hotel, the most
stunning hotel. And we walked into that room and I
ripped the curtain. I saw the gardens by the bay.
I literally started crying.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Because it did start crying. It is such a beautiful and.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Then you think about it, you think, how am I here?
My fiance works in golf. That was a huge pitch
the moment.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And you also got to meet Tiger.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, that's definitely an obvious pinchbee moment. That was really
cool to see that at first, and it was just
funny to be around him. I got to take his picture,
you know, meet Charlie. Very firm handshake. I will say
I matched him with a strong eye content. Yeah, but
it was funny because I had taken a picture. I
shot a photo of you and Tiger, remember, and it
ended up on an article because people saw that you
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were his new girlfriend. Yes, there was an article saying
that you.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Did all in. Oh, Tiger's new lady, and I was like, no,
actually I'm the lady, and I took.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah, but thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
It was so funny.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
It was crazy. Okay, God forbid I stand next to
the legend. We were five feet away.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
God forbid, quite literally, forbid, you'd be a pretty lesbian
standing next to Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You just know, so I want to actually get into
now your career. You work in marketing.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, so marketing.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I started in an entry level marketing position at a
marine manufacturer company in the boating industry and the watersport industry.
I was always passionate about water sports. But when I
got that job, that job literally fell into my lab.
I had done an incredible excursion to the Bahamas Sixth
Island trip for Boating Magazine with Roswell at the time,
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and I met the guys on that trip and we
just clicked. And so they were like, hey, we've got
this marketing position. We think you'd be great. And that
is quite literally where I learned full steam ahead everything
there is to know about marketing, and then anything I
didn't know I taught myself. I was very much hungry
at that point, you know. I was like, I'm going
to say yes to everything, like, hey, Ash, could you
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do this? Yes, even if I don't know how, I'm
going to learn and figure it out. But as soon
as I left Roswell, I knew that I had just
found an even bigger passion for the sport because I
had always wakeboarded.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Since I was a young kid.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But something about the athletes, I knew that they needed
help because I don't think a lot of people know
that wakeboarding was an insanely big sport back of the day,
you know, X Games, sponsored by rock Star, Monster, all
those big brands, and unfortunately it's kind of a dying
sport right now.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
There's just no more money in it.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And I got really good at my own social media,
and then got good at obviously I'd built Roswell's social
media so well that I had a couple athlete friends
and people reach out to me just asking for help
on their own personal brands. I can probably do this,
you know. And then beyond the wake is just where
that came from.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
That name.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You're a water baby too.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I'm a water baby.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
For those that don't know what Roswell is, it's a
company within like the water.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Sports worlds for speakers.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
It's so yeah, I'm still very passionate about the company
marine manufacturer, but audio. So it's an audio company. So
we did like the Sickest event. It was like the
Sickest speaker. You know, we were doing Miami Boat Show
for Laudlder Boat Show. We were in Miami, whining and dining,
you know, our OEM's and all this stuff is a
very lavish lifestyle in marketing, and I was young at
the time, so I was.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Like, wow, this is cool.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And then you met me and transitioned your marketing knowledge
into the golf world. So tell me about entering the
golf world.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I don't think people realize this, but obviously when I
moved out to LA you realized, holy shit, I have
to start all over again. And I don't think that
hit me until I was actually here. We're finally in La,
settled in our new home. I was literally at the
right place at the right time. I was applying for
marketing jobs left and right. I think I applied for
over sixty job and I was just burnt out from
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that many rejections or ghost calls. We had heard about
Los Angeles Golf Club because Alexis o'hanian reach out to
you personally to be an investor, and I want you
to be a part of this, and so they reached
out and said, hey, we've got a little.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Event at time golf.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So we went and I finally got to meet the
incredible Kayla Green, who was their fractional CMO at the time,
and we just got to talking.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
What do you do where you come from?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I told her obviously social media, brand strategy and all
the fun stuff. Her eyes got big and she was like,
oh my god, we need to can you use you? Yeah,
I'm doing the social media and I hate it. And
I was like, that was the door creeping open, And
I said, amazing.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
When can you meet?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I said, Tish and I were leaving for my birthday
trip tomorrow, but the day I come back, let's meet
for coffee. We had like a two and a half
hour coffee meeting, and the restless history.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
The rest was history. I think I was like higher
number four or five with als Anger's Golf club as
a contractor. About that was my first entry into golf.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It was a crazy one because Los Angeles Golf Club
is one of six teams they're expanding within TGL, which
is a new Golf League simulator.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
One of the six cities.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
It was just insane.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Because he hit the ground running building this thing, and
then I feel like everybody was going crazy over lagc's marketing.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So can you explain what you did for the team.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
As the inaugural team, we led the pack and if anything,
we had even more pressure on us because we had
launched the name, the logo, but we were already kind
of announcing hey we're here, yeah, our overall team and concept,
and we got pushed back the season. So we had
announced balloon popper anyone else. So literally, Kayla and I
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go into how are we going to keep growing this community,
keeping this community entertained and the season doesn't start for
a year and a half.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Now, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
So honestly, once I got with Kayla, I immediately jumped
into all things social media. I had pitched her what
the voice should breathe, the overall content strategy, the content pillars,
what kind of content we should be posting, then I
turned into creative producer. I was shooting photos at the time,
and then we hired Ryan Murray, the photographer. Once we
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hired him, I was able to take a step back
and do more of a producer role in oversight.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
More like a creative director handle all the events. You
basically built the brand between you and cal Green.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I feel like he built up AlgC and with the startup,
you're going to do absolutely everything, and I was passionate
about everything. So working with her, like we built the
complete creative voice in DNA of that team together.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You did incredible work. I've never seen like that kind
of grind.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
It was really cool because obviously we had a lot
of pressure on ourselves to keep driving that momentum for
a year.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
But it was cool because we set the.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Tone and everyone was like, oh, I want to be
like LAGC, like leading the hat, leading the pack, and
it was something so different that golf had never seen before.
And that was Kayla's idea. She was like Los Angeles
Golf Club, we are going full blown, straight city Angelino.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I said, all right, I can work with this.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
For those that don't know, we keep saying Kayla Green,
Kayla Green is an amazing CMO.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
She had built.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Built a city football club.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
She built up all kinds of brands, all kinds of teams.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
She's very passionate about. Yeah. Literally anything she touches turns
to gold.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
She's my mentor and my best.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
She is she is quite literally the best.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
And then after LAGC you also have done on things
in golf.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You model moved here, couldn't find a job anywhere. I
was trying to build up the clientele, and then Bad
Bertie reached out to you. I think forgetting that you
were with Puma at the time and we're like, we
need a model, and you were like, my girlfriend, Yeah,
hire her. And that's when I got to meet the
Bad Birdie team and I went out to Charleston and
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shot with them. They became family at that time, and
then I started shooting some photos for them once in
a while.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
U GC. I really started shooting photos a lot more. Yeah.
Now I actually help a couple of golf creators as well.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Now we're going to talk about all in.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Let's go a woman's golf apparel line, which now you
are a.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Huge part of your basically the other half to it.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I jumped on that train and then I said, let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I know, how was the experience and spin so far?
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Launching all in with me, your personal work in it.
You are quite literally like the eyes and visuals behind
it all.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I think it's been amazing because it's already kind of
everything I was doing at Los Angeles Golf Club, so
I was able to just bring the grip mindset, and
then this is even more fun because you're my heart
and soul. This brand is my heart and soul. So
I think it's just been really fun having full creative freedom.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
But also it's been scary because.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
You say we're gonna do this, And remember I looked
at you a couple weeks before launch and I said, hey, honey,
you know this is like forever, right.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
This isn't just passion project.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
We don't know how to do things small, so I
literally all in. That's why I looked at it and
I said, I need you to know that this is
forever now.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, well here we are.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
What has been the biggest challenge, you'd say, for you.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I think just us working together, just trying to learn
the dynamic of when to turn the business partner colleague
portion off and then be like, okay, we're actually future wives,
like let's make sure we turn it off and like
turn the work day off.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I think that's been the biggest adjustment.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Quick call out is the fact that my beautiful fiance
allowed us to push our wedding so that we can
launch this brand and we are going to get married.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
We promise and we will get into that.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It was supposed to be April twenty twenty six. Now
we're hoping for fall. Now it's not the fart.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah, what is your role in all In?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
We came up with this ridiculous title, like a week ago,
we were laughing about it.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's the Chief Brand and Creative Officer, but we just
call it CBBL.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I keep calling on the CBBL because I never member
come back from.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Like, you're the chief Brizilian Butler.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Chief brand and creative all things marketing creative at this
point until I can hire a team and bring them on.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Where do you want to see all In go? Where
do you think you can go?
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I want it to be the fastest growing women's golf
where brand the country has ever seen. I wanted to
be the malbone of women's golf in terms of when
you think of those luxury brands, while I want women
to have that brand because I don't think there is
that brand yet, So I want to be on every
woman out there. You know. My goal for it is
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to be like the Kith of Golf. I really want
us to get into collaborations one day, but I'm going
to be really really excited about all the future events
and the community aspects of that. I agree all In
is founded on diversity inclusivity, so I think that's what
I'm most excited to make all in.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I'm just so grateful that I have you with me
because there are so many times, especially when we don't agree.
The difficulties of working together is that we're both creative.
We're going to butt heads. But I've always told you
that I feel like whatever we create together is going
to be a magic and no one can compare. But so,
my God, the process to get the.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Idea well goes like this already, and you'll.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Like just make it come to life.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
For christ, this is a bit for me. The other day,
The mat are gonna hate me saying this.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But I literally was like, you know what, it really
is that easy when your girlfriend or your fiance, your
wife has a good idea. You just tell her that
is a great idea, and if it's not, you go, baby, yes.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, let's just like rework.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
It a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
But yeah, I was like, I'm just gonna support everything
you do because we'll save so much more.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Time anytime we disagree. There are moments where I'm like, gosh,
I don't know if this makes sense that we work together.
But then selfishly, I'm like, I don't want anyone to
have you.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Because because you're so good at what you do.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Like, if if any of you have looked at all
in golf, you look at the web, if you look
at the newsletters, if you look at the visuals, if
you look at the social media, like that is all
ash And if I ever had to give her up
to another brand, I would completely lose. I would lose
every battle. And I'm such a competitive person. Obviously I'm
also biased because she is my fiance, but like, you're
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just so good at thinking outside the box and bringing
a different energy and also really caring, you know, it's
not just a job. Like we obviously both really care
about the growth of women's golf.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I honestly, I don't think I would be able to
watch someone else do the things that I do, because
it'd be hard. I'd have to be at least orchestrating
what was happening. I don't think there's ever a world
where we could not work together at all.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I do feel like it takes a special couple to
be able to work together. And you were already traveling
with me and helping shoot and edit while on the road,
and now we have decided, you know, let's keep you home,
and now we're working all in and I feel.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Like we're well, I think, actually we make a really
great team. I really do.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, five honey, five girl.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
But I do want to actually dive into a couple things.
So we're going to try and keep some of the
story short. But I feel like I've been a broken
record when it comes to my coming out story. Sure,
and I would personally love for you to share with
the audience your coming out story.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well, it's actually going to be a pretty short story
because I attempted to come out younger, like freshman year,
but I was almost outed at fifteen years old by
the varsity volleyball coach of my high school.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
At the time.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Oh, by the way, I had a friend who was
openly bisexual, and she was quite literally just a bestie.
But god forbid other girls see me hanging out with
a friend. Girls were really yappy back of the day,
and being gay, lesbian, bi openly and publicly was just
not common back then in high.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
School at least.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
So there was a rumor that her and I had
made out on the bus on the way home from
an away game, and quite literally all I did was
rest by head on her shoulder. The next day, the
varsity coach told me I was going to be bench
and she screamed at me in front of the whole bus, saying,
the hell disgusting, disrespectful that would has been? And I
was like, I literally didn't do that. So I was like,
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I am never coming out now. But then fast forward
in my senior year at eighteen, I met a girl
and I was just obsessed.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It was like kind of like a pen.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I got drunk at a party once told my friend
that I was talking to a girl. The next day,
this big boy of a y apper told everyone. The
following day at school, my best friend Whitney texted me
and she goes, why are people saying that you're bisexual?
I was about to deny and I said it's because
I am. Later that day, I finally had to open
up to my dad because I had already been kind
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of in a funk, just sad over this girl.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
He said, what's going on with you? What's going on? Yeah,
he said nothing.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He said is it a boy? Is it school? And
then he paused and he goes, is it a girl?
And I said yeah, and he said I love you.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
He said it's going to be hard, and he said,
thank god. Now that means you can't get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Way to break the high school. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I think that's every dad's biggest fear.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, it sucks to hear the fact that you didn't
get to control your own coming out story and to
be completely demeaned and called out by a coach, which
if I ever find you, it's over for you. I'm
saying your name and I'm sharing it with all of
the social media in the world because that's super fucked up.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
But I'm just so glad that you know you were.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Accepted, especially by dad, because that would have been really cool.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, that's my guy, that's my buddy.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh yeah, I am my father's daughter.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
You're also very open about your ADHD. Oh, yeah, And
I don't think people actually realize how difficult it is
to live with it. Can you share it with everyone
what it was like growing up?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, I don't think people realize that you have severe
it actually is. But I was diagnosed when I was
ten years old, so that was way before ADHD and
ADD was a little more common. Like ily remember the
first parenting books that came out, Parents had them in
the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So when you were diagnosed with ADHD at.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
That young an age, it was almost treating a little taboo,
kind of like you didn't know what to do with
that kid.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
And I was medicated very quickly.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I was immediately put into the program where you get
more time on your test. So when I I was
a kid, I thought I was a problem, like something
was wrong with me, you know. Because of that medication,
I actually developed involuntary tics that I actually never talk about.
But there are these just like little impulsive ticks. It
could be anything. Some people sometimes mistake here for OCD.
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There's even a point where my grandmother thought that I
had Tourettes because the tics got so bad. But growing
up with that going on and off medication, the summer's
of the school year.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
That was definitely the hardest part.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
In dating you and loving you. I really had to
learn and understand ADHD. And I think, what kind of
I guess not Maybe it kind of irks me is
that when people openly say like, oh, there goes like
my ADHD again, I'm like add and I'm like, no,
don't say that you don't understand, because I feel like
the way you've best described it to me, it's like
you constantly have five thoughts going in one.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
I saw something funny the other day, it was like,
what's it like to have ADHD. It's like waking up
every morning waiting for an email to say I'm mad
at you and you're in big trouble. It's like waking
up with anxiety a little bit. You have four different
thoughts going on at once. But then I actually don't
think people realize when you do have severe ADD and ADHD.
It really does affect your relationships, your ability to get motivated,
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your ability to perform well in your job, and emotionships,
your emotions, it affects everything in your life. Every day
when you walk outside when you have ADHD, we're putting
on masks because we constantly have to adapt to the world.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
So what would you say is the best advice you
can give anyone who is struggling with ADHD when it
comes to work.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
When it comes to work, one hundred percent, you need
to find out what your coping mechanisms are as far
as like, what's going to keep you organized. I'm a
list writer. I have so many to do lists. I'm
even telling our Alexa to remind me to do things.
Reminders and notes are my thing. But I highly recommend
time blocking in your calendar because we can get really distracted.
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So find out genuinely what motivates you and hold on
to a baby.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
And how about when it comes to day.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
My biggest advice for if you're getting into a relationship
and you're starting to get serious and those feelings are
starting developed, or maybe you're already dating and it is
getting serious, definitely preface how bad it actually is for you.
If you are already aware of what your symptoms are
and how you navigate life. You didn't realize that it
takes me a month sometimes to full laundry.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
But I think just tell your part, not playing it
like quite literally.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Just I'll just look at the Oh, there's the laundry.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Again, King's crazy look at the laundry, though.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I think the best advice is give your partner a
heads up, tell them, Hey, you're gonna get frustrated with
me at times, but I just need to remind you
not to.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Take it seriously.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
And now we've even developed too when you need my
full attention, you go, honey, I need your full attention,
and I put whatever's down, I turn the TV off,
mute at whatever I do, and I go, okay, yeah,
and I lock the fucking I will sick.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
And I will say, from being on the receiving end,
I think my best advice, and i'll piggyback off of that,
is you have to love your partner for who they
are because this is not something that's going to change.
There are times when it's going to improve, in times
when it's going to really hit the fan.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
The other day, what did I put in the fridge?
I think I put cereal in the fridge or ice
cream in the fridge the other day.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, you left the creamer and the pantry and you
put something that wasn't supposed to be in the fridge.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
It's one of those things.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
But I also feel like, really understanding ADHD really learning
about it because I don't know what it's like to
wake up and not be decisive.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I'm a very decisive person.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
You know this of me, and it's been actually one
of our biggest struggles in our relationship and something that
we had to learn how to navigate very quickly.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
But I will say that when you're on the superpower
is insane. She can do ten things at once and
I'm like still working on the same thing. I can
lock in, she can lock in. It's crazy lock in
when it's down to the wire, that's when you lock in.
Oh yeah, At what point did you know that I
was it for you?
Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's a very sweet question.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
First phone call actually, the one that was like three
and a half hours. I knew that you were going
to be the one, if not someone extremely special in
my life because everything that you and I were saying,
we were literally just hammin egging it. The same experience,
same values, morals. I was like, she either she's my
soulmate or she was my best friend.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I knew that you were it after we finally met
in person. We had already been talking for like a
month and a half straight, like NonStop, like twenty four
hours a day when I met you in person, I'll
never forget that. We had the most incredible day and
a half.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah, and I remember.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Being like, God, what if this doesn't work? And the
best case scenario happened. We had the best date ever.
I'll never forget when we flow danced together so sa
in your room, and I was like, I've always wanted
a partner that would just dance with me.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I always thought that too seriously. As soon as I
saw that you danced, I was like, thank god.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I just remember leaving that trip crying because I was like,
oh no, like.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, you called your best friend. I just started crying.
I called it a bitch, you're in trouble. She did
say that, that's what my friend said. She said bitch bye,
because I was facetiming my best friend. When you land
in my armpits were sweating, and as soon as you
got off that airplane, my smile went.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Like this because I picked you up at the gate
like a lady.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
You did, and she was bye, that's right.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I called my best friend who it will be my
maid of honor and I didn't even have to say
a word, and she was just like I get it.
I understand, you don't need to say anything. I'm just
sobbing on this call. And she just knew me so well.
She knew that, oh it went so well that.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (40:32):
My best friend found the person crazy. So we also
get this question all the time, so we might as
well just nip it in the butt. Honey, do we
want to have kids? And who's carrying the baby?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Me?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I am the oven. She was like, I am not
doing it. I said, all right, fine, I'll do it.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
And in a perfect world, I feel like two kids
would be great.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, two is perfect. I mean one is a blessing.
People don't realize how expensive it is for two women
or two men, like you know, gay couples that actually
have a baby. So it's very intense. Process is a
very lengthy process. So I'd be blessed with one. Three
would be great.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
And for those that are wondering, we were actually going
to go through the process this year. We're going to
freeze our eggs and create embryos, to freeze embryos, and
we think that our first child hopefully will be half
me with our donor, and then hopefully the second child
will be half you.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
So I love carry your egg for the first one,
and then the second baby will be from my eggs. Yeah,
our babies are probably not gonna look much alike, but
they're gonna be the coolest kids in school.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
They will be.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
We're gonna be like, yes, you too are siblings. Yeah,
yes one is tanner then the other get used to it. Yes,
I love it.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I love it. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
What is one thing that you wish people understood more?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
When it comes to me? And I'll answer about.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I think I wish people realize, Like, I know, people
know that you work hard. That's obvious, and the people
know how busy you are, but I wish they knew
how much that you truly care and how intentional you are,
and how seriously you take every job. You know, like
you're busy, But I don't think people realize that you
(42:10):
have three to four projects going on at once. I
don't think they realize why you work this hard. You know,
you quite literally probably were put on this earth to
break that generational trauma and like create this new legacy genuinely,
and I feel like you carry the weight of that
on your shoulders, and people don't know that people don't
know that. You know, you were sleeping in your car
(42:32):
when you were trying to be a pro, fighting for
your life, and that's why you do what you do.
That is why you work so hard, and that's why
you always fight. And I love that about you.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeahest we do not make me cry right now, don't
make me cry. I will say that one thing that
I wish people understood more about you is just.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
How talented you are.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I thought I was going to cry.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I'm really passionates. Obviously, I love to the to the
to the death of me. I'll literally be anyone up
for you. But no, Like, you're so talented, and I
know it's been hard since you moved to LA for me,
and I just it's been tough and I'm just.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
So grateful for you.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
But like, you're one of the most talented and most
you know, diverse people that I know, and you can
literally take anything on it.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
You just do it.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
And it breaks my heart when I see life hit
you really hard, because I'm like, God, you just deserve
the world and there's only so much that I can
offer you in this world, and I'll give you anything,
But I just wish people.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Like really saw you the way I saw you.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I wish you saw you the way I see you,
you know, because like you're the most beautiful person in
the world to me, and so I don't know, you're
my little golden retriever. Like you're the best thing that's
ever happened. Truly, I couldn't do this life without you.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
And this is our last question. We're gonna end on
a high. What is your favorite thing about us?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Honestly, I love how much fun we have, how playful
we are. Like and my grandma told me this, marry
your best friend, because looks said baby, And you want
to be on the couch or the porch with your
best friend who's going to make you laugh your ass off.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
And you and I laugh countly.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
We do.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
We feed into each other and we just laugh. Like
if you're not laughing with your partner, literally run like
you need to be laughing with your partner at least
once a day.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Oh, we love.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
That's so much more than my favorite thing.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I think that's my favorite thing is that I really
do feel like I am engaged and soon to be
married to my best friend. We laugh all the time,
and I remember the first time you made me laugh
and I was like, WHOA, I never cackled like that.
Well the end of another I just showed her my
ugly laugh.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, is that the Filipino cackle?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It is? And that's what I know.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I love that. I love you any thank you so
much for having me. No, thank you for joining and
by I'm like, look at me and just yapping away.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Well we just we just yep and yep. But you
work when everyone find you.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Everyone can find me at Ashley period Driver. That is
Ashley a s hl ee period driver. That's right on
everything on Instagram, TikTok everything.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
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Speaker 4 (45:21):
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