June 4, 2025 • 42 mins
Comedian Heather McMahan stops by the Par-Tee to discuss her journey from a childhood golf lover to a comedy star, her passion for the game, and the hilarious realities of being a "golf widow." Heather also shares insights into her comedy career, from her unique show preparation rituals to her recent experience hosting a comedy cruise. Plus, she reveals her thoughts on women's golf apparel and her dreams of opening a women-only golf club.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think golf is such a personal sport. It's not
like playing tennis where you can just you know, you
have your cardios decent and then you get a decent backswing,
you can volley with someone else and keep up. Golf
is very intimidating, and I think what people have to
realize is, no matter what stage of golf you're at,
it will always be hard. The pros can shank it.
(00:22):
They're in the water every weekend. They have whipped it too,
So just remember no matter where you're starting or what
level you're at. At some point, even Tiger Woods has said,
I fucking hate this.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hello, friends, welcome back to the party. I really hope
you enjoyed last week's episode. This week's episode, you're not
gonna want to miss a lot more lighthearted and more
fun because our guests is a comedian. But before we
get into that, I wanted to share with you all
some new news. Say in case you haven't seen or
in case you don't follow me, I recently launched my
woman's golf appare line called all in Golf just like
(01:07):
my name, Tisha Allin, but phonetically said it's all in
like you're all in, and I am so excited, but
also ten out of ten do not recommend starting off
and just creating your own brand unless you are strong
as nails, because man, it's tough. But gosh, our launch
happened just a few days ago and it's the most
fulfilling feeling. And I really just wanted to create this
(01:29):
woman's golf brand, not only because I didn't feel like
I really had much representation in women's golf were growing up,
but also in the women's golf community. I really wanted
to create something where all women are welcomed, no matter
what color, what size, I mean everyone, even men. If
men want to wear my women's golf brand, let's fucking go,
because women wear men's brands all the time. But also
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beyond that, I really wanted to create a community where
all these women feel like they are a part of
a sisterhood, a golf sisterhood. I wouldn't be where I
am without my sisterhood, so I want all the others
to feel that, especially when they wear the gear. So
if you haven't seen it yet, please check it out
All in goolf dot com at All in Golf on
Instagram as well. Anyways, I actually submitted a Q and
(02:14):
A before or according this because I have one brain
cell left after my launch, but someone actually submitted and said,
why don't you share about one of your best, your
most memorable fan and or celebrity slash athletes experiences. So
my favorite most memorable athlete interaction, I mean I have
to go golfy on this one. Tiger Woods. I mean,
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come on, like dream come true. I've actually had the
opportunity to work alongside or be in the presence of
Tiger I think four times now, and every time I've
met him, the aura is just elite, Like every time
I've been around him. If you can actually see like
a red glow of an aura around a human being,
(02:59):
that would Tiger legit like, I can't explain another individual
in this lifetime that could ever make me feel that
same aura.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Even when he's.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Laughing and most relaxed, which I've been very fortunate to
be around him during times when he was not in
a competitive mindset, his aura is still just like you know,
you're in the presence of greatness. However, in my last
interaction with him, which was a twenty twenty three TGR
Foundation event where I was a tea master, I announced
the tea times for his junior players. I actually had
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the opportunity to spend twenty to thirty minutes with him,
just me and him and one other and there was
no crowd allowed because we were in the VIP area.
You know, people wanted to take photos and do all
these things, and it was just it was crazy. And
when I got to walk up to him, he said, Tisha,
so great to see you and embraced me a speechless speechless.
(03:56):
First of all, I died a little because Tisha is
not how you say my name. It's Tisha, But you
know what, for the goats, I am Tisha for that day,
I was Teasha all in because Tiger said so, and
I took that embrace in and couldn't believe I was
hugging him like I was his fucking friend. Anyway, So
we embraced and we got to talk, and like I
(04:16):
had twenty or thirty minutes it, just talked to him
and asked questions, and really I was just listening to him.
He rambled on a lot about golf. He is so
detail oriented and there are no shortcuts with this man.
It was just very interesting, you know, even though that
aura was definitely there, What made that experience extremely unique
to me was the fact that I was also around
just a father who loves his son. Charlie was in
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the field that day competing in his TGR event, and
watching him smile, watching them you know, wrap it up
and embrace and him cheer him on and also tease
him was so different and it really made Tiger feel like, Wow,
he's just a father who loves his son. And funny,
if we actually talked about Charlie really big hands. He
(05:02):
was saying, like, I can't believe the myts that he has.
He called it mits I think, and he was like, yeah,
his hands are like larger than mine, and he was saying,
how is Charlie's feet are larger than his? End We
talked about how to hit tight shots and pick clean
shots off tight lies, which I still can't do to
this day. He was talking to me how him and jordan'
speeth were talking about it and working through that shot.
(05:24):
Still don't know how to do it. We also talked
about this one was very interesting to me, how he
feels sorry for kids who get pushed too hard. And
how that topic got brought up was because we were
talking about Charlie a little bit, and how he watches
other parents caddy for their kids and he sees how
tough other parents are on them, and he was like,
I just I never want to be that. I just
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want to encourage my kids, Like how does that make
them better? And he was also talking about his daughter
and how proud he is of her because she is
an overachiever, like a straight A student, and she feels
a lot of pressure and the weight of school on
her shoulders, and she had come to him crying one
time and he was just like telling her how like, ah,
(06:04):
you know, you just don't need to feel the pressure
and just encourage her and make her feel at ease.
And I was like, wow, that's just so cool. It
was just such a human experience to just watch Tiger
talk about things in such a normal manner, because we
I mean, he's idolized and so just to see him
be a father was really really cool. Anyways, that was
(06:25):
my experience with Tiger. I really hope that I'll have
more experiences with him. But now it's time to introduce
to you my next guest. This one you don't want
to miss. I am so hyped because she's not just
hilarious but she just gets it. She's a comedian, actress, writer,
podcast queen. You've probably left your ass off to her podcast,
but here's what you might not know. Pathan McMahon, she
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is a golfer and she's a pretty good one too.
She actually started golf at a young age through her dad,
and she was actually competing at seven. But then, just
like a lot of us, the pressure got real and
then she stepped away. But now she's trying to get
back into it. And she actually talks a lot about
her comparisons between golf and comedy, which I think is
very unique. And so she's bold, she's brash, she's fabulous,
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and I could not be more excited to welcome the
one and only Heather McMahon to the party. Heather, Hi,
Welcome to the party. That's the name of the podcast.
I don't even know if you knew that, but well,
I love a party.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know, girl, I'm a comic. You know I love
a pun so I love it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I know e've ben trying so hard to catch each other.
I really appreciate you making the time. Thank you for
being here, Hey, thank.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You for having me. And you know, this is like
the craziest time of year for me, and I just
I'm sorry I look so disheveled. I was on a
comedy cruise the last week and then I spent Easter
sitting in the jerks and Cake goes airport sweating my
balls off. So that's, oh my gosh, that's why I
look rough.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You know, you don't look rough, hair mask and all.
You look great.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, So we usually actually like to start off every
pot with a little game, a little bit of four
play more puns, love it, and your game is called
Heather said, what So, I'm basically gonna share a quote
that you may or may not have said, and you're
gonna tell me if it's true or false.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's deeply concerning and I'm scared, but I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, great, okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
First one, the only time I feel truly alive is
when I'm getting the last piece of cake at the party.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I feel like I probably said that, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Was true, that was on your podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, okay, all.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right, here's my question. If the Aliens come down, do
they pay taxes? I definitely said that, yeah, yeah, it
was TikTok yep. Okay, I almost joined a cult once,
but they didn't have brunch. I feel like I probably
said that it's a false but I feel like you
would say that if the.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Cult didn't have good food, like if it was like
shitty catering, I would not join. I like, I'm so sorry, guys.
I love the white comfy robes. The alfhits are nice.
I don't even mind the worshiping of whatever said older
white gentlemen. But I gotta get a good meal, not
the white robes.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, it's like, what white cult are we joined?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Which it could be any it could be any.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, halfway through? All right, there's three things in this
world that get me excited. One the Lord, two a
mic ultra, three free wings in that order.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I'll tell you right now that is absolutely something I said.
Is that still gets me excited?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I love God, I love a cold beer, and I
love some hot wings. We love it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I love that, all right. There's nothing worse than when
your thighs are rubbing together and you're stuck in a
sand trap.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't think I said that, but I also agree
with that sentiment.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You actually did say that in your podcast. It was
the What's in the Bag series.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Oh yeah, I mean I will say there is nothing
worse than just being hot and sweaty and having thigh
chase out in the green. There's nothing worse.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Literally, that's that, okay. I mean you know yourself pretty good.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, I try to be self aware, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Heather.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You're a golf girly like through and through. I would
love to hear your story in terms of how you
got into golf. We gotta start from the very basics first,
all right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So I started playing golf when I was a kid.
I grew up that typical suburban lifestyle where your mom
dropped you off at the club at seven am. You
did swim team first, and then after that you did
golf for tennis. Okay, okay. And my dad wanted my
sister and I to play golf because he was like,
you know, this big businessman, He's like, that's how you're
going to close all your deals and get respect in
(10:19):
this world is on the golf course. So I started
playing competitive golf when I was like seven. I would
I was junior club champion, I would do all these
things and just play and I loved it. And then
I got to high school and it became competitive and
I actually had to give a shit and it destroyed
the game of golf for me. So I talked about
it a lot in my last special Breadwinner about how,
(10:39):
you know, like my dad wanted me to join the LPGA,
want me to play in college, and I just wanted
to be a song and dance girl. I loved a
musical theater, I loved comedy. For I think a lot
of kids, once the sport became not fun anymore and
super competitive, we were all like, I don't care about
this that much, Like it's supposed to be fun. Yeah,
it's easy to win a club championship when you're seven
and there's like three other girls to get beat with,
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and they're also like in wet bathing suits from swim team.
You know, like we didn't give a shit. We knew
we were getting chicken tenders and a grilled cheese at
the end, and that was the motivation.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So I really gave up golf for like, I don't know,
fifteen years. I mean I would go a couple balls,
but I did not play. And then once I got married,
my husband is just a golf fanatic and I always,
of course followed golf, and I'm a fan of golfers,
and I'm friends with a lot of golfers. And then
I finally started getting back into it. You know, my
swing is shit. I don't even have a handicap right
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now because I don't play enough to like accumulate one,
like I've dedicated. I said this fall, I am going
to start playing again and really get into it because
I miss it. I miss the game. And I say
that golf and comedy are very similar. It's a solo sport. Yes,
if you have a bad night in comedy, or if
you have a bad day on the golf course, you
will blame anybody but yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know, that's literally facts.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yes, Oh, it was windy, the crowd was weird. I
didn't like the course. I got stuck in the sand
trap I in comedy, it's the same thing. The crowd
was weird, I didn't like the lighting in the room.
You'll blame anybody, but the fact that you were just
like having a shitty day.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You know, Wait, where did you grow up playing golf
in Atlanta? Is that still where you are?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And I still play at the club I grew up
at no, I.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Okay, Yeah, so you went to the Masters.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I went to the Masters. We got all the tournaments.
I love it, which I love. I love being a
spectator and a follower of golf because I have an
understanding of the game. Yes, and I understand how hard
it is when you see your friends succeed and when
it's like that much more bittersweet in a great way,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I was looking at your master's photos. I feel like
you brought this up to me briefly when we first met.
But your friends of Maria FOSSi.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, Maria FOSSi is a dear friend of mine. Yes,
and I adore her.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
For those of you who are listening and don't know
who Maria FOSSi is while you're sleeping under a rock,
and she's on the LPGA. And she also competed in
the ONWA which took place at Augusta, I don't know,
three four years ago, and she played phenomenally. But yes, no,
would love to know how you guys met, how you
guys know each other. You follow LPGA stuff too.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, So she went to Arkansas. I went to Ole, Miss.
So we have a ton of mutual friends, sorority sisters,
so we met through friends and then as soon as
I met Marie, I just absolutely fell in love with her.
And then she started getting us involved with more LPG events,
which that's for me, like seeing women in golf. I
come from that world. I understand the pressure and championing
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them and just rooting for them is like the greatest
joy of my life. Like I want to see people
out at these tournaments rooting on these women.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I appreciate anyone who just understands the difficulty of golf,
but let alone women's golf. It's really fucking hard. Yeah,
and girls don't have it easy. The prize money is
not quite there. And I mean, no, that's so awesome
that you're into it. And I know that your husband
is also a really big fan of golf too. And
I know in your comedy show you talk about being
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a golf widow. Can you please explain to the listeners
what does that even mean? In what position are you
in right now?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So, a golf widow is anybody whose spouse might as
well be dead because they play so much golf. Like
I don't see him, he disappears in the woods. It's
like every weekend is an episode of dateline or twenty twenty.
It's like, where is my husband and I have to
track him on the cell phone and he's deep in
the woods on the back nine. And then that's always
an excuse I didn't have cell phone service. You know
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we oh oh, we got stuck behind another group and
they just disappear for twelve hours and it's so annoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
That's so true. You can literally get away with anything,
no signal, you're lost, You're gone for nine hours, and
somehow it's excusable, which like, I don't know why golf
should ever take that long punch, So it shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, you want to hear about people getting in trouble
for slow play on the tour, and I'm like, honey,
slow play. You've never played behind my husband. He takes
his sweet fucking time.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
So where are you at with golf now? How frequently
are you getting out there?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I am getting out there maybe once a month, which
I'm not proud of.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, not the worst, not the worst, not the worst.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Tuesdays usually like my day to catch my breath or
come up for air. So I'm trying to get a
lesson in, but I'll tell you what is jarring. Being
a decent golfer growing up and having that like kind
of natural ability as a kid, then not touching a
club for fifteen years and then having to start from
scratch is the most humbling.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Humiliated golf is humbling.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And I thought I would just like it would click,
I'd be right back in it. At the amount of
work I need to, I mean, I have no drive.
I'm a short games decent. I'm a great chipper potter,
like I think I'm decent there. But my god, it's
like I lost the strength. I've got sciatica. I got
to go to physical therapy, and I told myself this fall,
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I'm going to dedicate my days off to golf.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I love that for you. Now. I know that you
you talk about your dad quite a bit, and I
know that he passed away a few years ago, and
he was a huge influence in your life and and
your Netflix special son. I never had. I feel like
it's like a love letter to him in many ways.
How did he shape your love for the game.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
My dad was just one of those guys who loved
being a girl. Dad and he would always tell me
there's nothing you can't do, like was my number one
champion and truest me. We butted heads tremendously when I said, Hey,
I'm going to quit sports and I'm gonna go pursue
comedy because he's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But you know, my dad was just smart. He told
me I became the queen of networking. He told me
how to go out there and socialize. And it's true.
I tell women all the time, you want to meet
a man or you want to like you play in
their ballgame, like go to the golf course. Oh yeah,
that'sh you know, beat him at their own game. If
you can't beat him, join them, Like what are we
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doing here? So he taught me a lot of life
lessons and that, and there were just really great moments
of you know, Sunday afternoons going to play the Part
three and it was like our Sunday routine. We'd play
the Part three, the sun would be setting, we'd have
dinner at the club and it was just like our
sweet little time together and that was just so special.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So, I know, we talked about a little bit ago
like the similarities between like golf and comedy. There's a
lot of parallels, I thought our mutual Becky Robinson introduced us.
She was like, you can, you can keep doing the
same thing, but it's gonna land differently each time. You're
gonna keep hitting the same shot. You can shit it
one day, you can pull it the next, and the
same thing with your jokes and whatnot. Now, in golf,
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you generally get a few minutes to reset, But in comedy,
how do you handle it when the jokes aren't quite
hitting the way you want it to?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well, I feel like very similar to golf, Like you
see John Rahm just want to take out a golf
club and snappy yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
In comedy oftentimes you call it out too. You're like, ooh,
that one didn't land, or ooh a little too sensitive
for this audience. I think you kind of call it
out just the same way golfers are, Like, you know,
when shit's not working, you have to pivot or you know,
you push through, and then you get off stage and
you're like, I got to reassess my life.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was gonna say, like, I feel like I commend
you guys, just because I feel like it's such a
vulnerable thing to do, Like I can't even imagine being
on stage and realizing because you get direct feedback that like, yo,
that joke did not land, Like okay, like f myself, like,
how do you you just hear you on that?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I hear you on that, But I gotta be
honest with you. And maybe I'm a sociopath, but I
think that their comics would agree.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I can't handle that kind of feedback if you ask me, like,
because that's the world that I understand. If you ask
me to like file your taxes, I would be sweating.
I would be vomiting. I'd be shaking in my boots. Like,
you know, being funny and silly is even if it
doesn't always go the way I want it to, it's
still rewarding.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
There are other gigs that I just know I would
not be good at, and most of them would be
any sort of financial advisor. I'm like, we'll make more money,
We'll figure it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Out, right, you know, Yeah, no, that makes sense. I
think Like being a comedian, I think is like a
really interesting career path. And when we were at Netflix
as a joke, you and Becky were chatting. We all
sat together and you were kind of talking about your
show and the week you had to get ready and
talking about the material some things they needed to change.
Pretty last second, can you talk to me about your
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process when planning and creating your sets.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, so I may do it a little bit differently
than other people. Like I mean, obviously, you start out
and you have ideas, and then you'll go run the
show ten minutes here, fifteen minutes here, and clubs and
you want to like work out those pieces. But because
I come from a theater background with comedy, I look
at the whole picture. So I don't start a new
hour even if things will change, Like if I start
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the tour, the hour may be totally different by the
time I get to the end. But I start with
what I think is an hour and then real ninety minutes,
and then I edit from there. So I kind of
do it a little bit backwards. I write on the road,
I write as I go. The creative process for me
is terrifying, but it's the most fun part. Like I
love to create new and listen. It's one thing being
(20:15):
on the road. But like the amount of content that
we're all supposed to like crank out is kind of diabolical.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh, it's mentally it's just debilitating.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It's debilitating. I do have a podcast that I have
to do every week, and then I'm on the road,
and then you've got to come up with social media content.
And there are days where I feel like I've gotten dumber.
I'm like, I don't have a creative, thoughtful, like idea
in my brain right Like after the cruise, I was like,
I can't form a sentence. I am overstimulated.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I mean, I get it. But that's why we have
chat GPT because that's saves life. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's a great comic Mike Cannon, and he has a
whole shtick where he asks like AI to write jokes.
Oh no, it's so terrible. And I'm like, this is
why I I do feel job security that AI could
never come for my job because it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
That makes sense, Yeah, A, I definitely can't sling on
golf club for me, So we have that going for us.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah exactly. I mean if the robots start to end up,
then we're fun.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Then we're super fucked. Do you have any pre show
rituals or superstitions? Is that a thing I do?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So you know, I partied on the cruise but I'm
usually pretty like sober when I'm performing. I just I honestly,
at thirty eight, I can't kick, I can't bounce back
like I used to. But my pre show ritual is
I always do my own hair and makeup, like that
is my thing that it calms me down. I put
on a very specific playlist. I listen to cocktail jazz
(21:43):
on Spotify, and then I have like a pre show
playlist that has like, you know, it's got Megna Stallion,
it's got Cardi, you know, and the freaking Indigo girls.
Like it's just like my female empowerment playlist. And that's
what I listened to. Right before I go out, I
wrap on my glitter suits, I put on my boots.
I do a thing called leg lube where I take
(22:05):
lotion right before I go out and I really shine
up the hams. I get the in between the legs. Yeah,
and then that's my pre show. Leg glube is like
what I do right before I go out on stage,
and I say a prayer and then we.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Let it rip and then after that everything that's good
to go after you do, Yeah, all those steps, I
love it. How about golf superstitions? Do you have any
of that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, you know, if you have a good round, you
don't change the juju that's going on in your back. Yes,
you don't change it. You play the same ball if
you had the same ball marker, You wear the same hat.
Oh for sure. You got to eat a peanut, butter
and jelly uncrustable, same things. Yeah, I mean there's very
specific things that we all do because we don't want
to mess up the ye. I'll tell you what though.
(22:48):
I like how the Japanese play golf though, just hear
me out, okay, how they sit down and have like
a full oma cause in between, Like.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, that's right, yes, I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Like to play fast because I'm getting old. I would
like if I could sit down and like sit down
for lunch, have a full meal at reset, and then
go back out.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You know what I'm down with that? You know, Well,
do you plan any pro ams?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I don't, but I'm hoping to get into that.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, we're gonna have to get you into some because
I mean it's not almost casse. But you'll get a
burger and a hot dog in between. You'll sit down.
You may play a six hour round, but you get
a meal in between.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's what I would like.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The problem is in my comedy world it's go, go, go, rush,
rush Rush. Nowadays, I'm like, I want to sit at
the term. Yeah, I want to sit down, have a
white wine sprinzer and a nice sandwich and then let's
get up and go again.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You know a good point. Okay, So we're gonna have
to get you into a prim I'll tell my people.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Okay, okay, good.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So talk about the grind of getting to where you
are now, Like, how many years were you doing comedy
before it actually started to pay off?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I first did stand up in high school, and I
the first one did stand up. I performed my high
school prom where I like roasted the senior class, and
so that was my first time like specifically doing stand up.
I did theater in college. Then I moved to New
York and started doing improv and sketch because I really
wanted to be on SNL. So I started in stand
up kind of pivoted to more character work. And Becky
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and I are very similar, where like my first tour,
I opened for myself as somebody else, this real estate
agent character that I used to have Brenda Carlisle, Oh,
I need to bring back. So I always kind of
dabbled in like the character world and then stand up
and would kind of nix the two. I was doing
it forever, but it wasn't until about i'd say seven
years ago that things really started to take off. A
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lot of what people are doing on TikTok now I
was doing on Instagram. And when Instagram Stories first came out,
that was like my bread and butter. They were fifteen
seconds long. I knew how to write a fifteen second joke.
I knew exactly how to draw people in. So that's
how people found me. And you know, I give a
lot of credit to people who come up through social media.
It doesn't mean that you didn't have the training or
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weren't grinding it out in other aspects. It was just
like we all got smart and realized how to put
it out there on a platform.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But it was I mean, I was hustling for twelve
years before anything really took off, and I never had
a backup plan, much to my parents to say, I
was just like, I will figure it out. I worked
every service job. I worked as a nanny, I worked
at a gym. It was a bartender, waitress, personal assistant,
anything you can imagine I did to fuel that dream
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of pursuing comedy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
How did your parents take it when you were like, you, guys,
this is what I want to do, Like, this is
my career path.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
My mom was like, follow your dreams. My dad, of course, listen.
I have a lot of empathy for parents. I'm not
one myself, but I understand that your parents don't know
what they're doing. Right humans do they parent out of fear.
My dad was super successful. He knew that I had
the charisma to do whatever I wanted, but he didn't
know anybody in the business he you know, like, so
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my dad wasn't discouraging, but he was very hesitant because
he wanted. He knew that I had potential to be successful. Listen,
if I had to go do real estate, I would
also crush.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It, you know absolutely, people person, Yeah, but I just.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Knew that I wasn't ever going to take no for
an answer and keep going and listen. It is very
bittersweet that all the success I've had, my dad hasn't
been here to see it. But I know he also
I wouldn't be here without him, So it's a double
edged sword. It's bittersweet, but that's why I try and
just work my ass off. I love what I do.
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You know, there are hard days on the road. Absolutely
you're exhausted, you feel like you're a shell of a human,
or you feel like you're only as good as your
last gig. But at the end of the day, I
tried never to complain, just quietly alone to myself as
I scream into a billow. But no, like I feel blessed.
I get to work with my best friends, other cool comedians,
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and I'm telling jokes for a living and bringing joy.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I mean, no, that's a good point. I mean it's
like you could sit a cubicle all day, or you
can choose your heart. And this is a pretty pretty
cool hard you know, so it's a pretty cool harding.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Trust me. I have I read comments about myself on
Reddit that make me want to jump off the roof. Yes,
you know, there are other aspects, not the redit. I
swear to god. People on Reddit are me fucking miserable,
I think to myself, Or like when you open a
nasty DM from somebody's psychotic you're like, I have never
even before I had a blue check mark where people
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could follow me.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I have never in my entire life been like I
want to send somebody a nastiness energy. Yeah, I don't
get it. So so you do read your comments at times, yes,
and the comments are mostly positive because I'll tell you
what women are actually lovely. It's when you get here
of the hidden dms where you're like, oh god, this is.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Crazy, it got weird, it got sexual. I don't know
where we're going with this. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I get angry with though, And I tell the guys.
When I see my buddies and my girlfriends who play
professional sports and the off le fans that are so
delusional the way they step. That's why I was like, yeah, Rory,
please win the Masters, just so I don't everybody.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, literally, it's like you get out there and do
it exactly. These in cell men who make comments on
the golf, I'm like, honey, you couldn't hit a drive
fifty yards if we put roller blades on you. Like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, no, literal facts. Something about the men in the
golf world that are golf fans are I just don't
feel like they're like this in other sports. It's very critical,
it's very mean. I'm like, you know, you lose like
ninety nine percent of the time, right, Like if this
is not like a you know, basketball where one team wins,
one team like, you have a very eygh chance of
losing at all times, and you still choose to play golf.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, And I tell them all the time, I'm like,
I empathize and sympathize, but I truly idolize these guys
because I don't know how they fucking do it. Yeah,
I mean you don't. You may not win for three
or four years, right, and then everybody's sliding your DM all,
you've lost your tied to losses. You're playing in a
field of one hundred and something players every fucking weekend,
the best of the there's the only room for one winner,
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right what?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah? No, literally I get it. But coming back to
your career, I wanted to ask what has been your
biggest pinch me moment?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You'd say, Yeah, I will say obviously because it's very
fresh being on the cruise. I cried every fifteen minutes
on the boat, like I can't believe we've created this community.
And that's the cool thing. You know, when you do
art and you're creative. You you never know how people
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interpret it. And to see people laughing and together, that
was the best feeling. I mean, obviously, playing Radio City
was one of the most amazing moments of my life. Like,
I'm sitting in my office, I see my poster it's like,
you know, from Radio City, like sold out. Like moments
like that are truly pinched me moments. But I'm just grateful.
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I mean, I'm I mean, I'm going to play Phoenix
this weekend, and I'm so pumped to be back at
the Orphy and see all the girlies. Yeah. Every night
that I get out on stage and people are in
the audience and they know my jokes and they are
in on it, and they're they're allowing me to do
my job to entertain them, it's always a pinch me moment.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh no, I mean you've done You've done a lot,
You've had a couple of specials. Now, yeah, you've hosted
was it the Golden Globes? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I did? I did the right carpet, the right cackpet.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I mean, that's still that's still so awesome. I can't
I'd be so stressed doing something like that. I'm like,
why do I study for her? Let me tell you what.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Hosting is the hardest job I've ever had. I could
get in here six Yeah, No, truly it is. You
have to know facts. You're on live television, you ever produced,
you're yelling in your ear. You have whoever the actor actresses,
you have their publicists like yelling at somebody behind the scenes.
You're like, what is happening? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, did you have an earpiece in that? During that? Too?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I had an ear piece? I was I was out
of my mind.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh my god. I I really appreciate you saying that
because I will say that in the hosting world, and
we'll get into podcasting because it's like different but same.
But it's like in the hosting world when you have
someone yelling in your ear and you're also trying to
streamline a thought and you're trying to like smile and
like look normal at the person you're talking to, and
I'm like, I'm in front of fucking arian A Grande.
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Do you really think I can handle you like streamlining me?
So it's a whole different beasts. You have to like
be able to almost segregate your thoughts and so it's different,
but you did it.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And it's tough trying to be present and get the
information out of a person. Yeah, like you're you're also
having that out of body moment where you're like, I
am actually in the presence.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Of yes, no, I understand it. And then it's like
people in the comments when they're critiquing you, they're they're
also like, it doesn't really feel like you're listening to them,
Like you're just trying to ask questions a question I'm like, yeah, bitch,
because do you understand how many thoughts are in my brain?
Like not all the time?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You know that there's a producer saying you, I have
eight more questions that you have to get through or
the network's gonna fire.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
No, No one knows the other side of it exactly.
But again, that is something where you want to say,
get up here.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You do it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I dare yah.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Okay, So we talked about podcasting. So I'm pretty new
to the podcasting world. But you've actually had your podcast now,
which is called absolutely Not, for more than five years.
What would you say, is an absolutely not moment that
you've experienced in the last few weeks or maybe on
the course.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
An absolutely not moment that I've had in the last
couple of weeks. This has nothing to do with golf.
The Miami Airport is a cesspool. It is seventh layer
of hell. They're like, you can walk from every concourse.
Let me tell you. I got off the cruise at
seven am. I was so hungover. I at the shakes.
I'm about to bore my flight to the Turks and Caicos. Okay,
there is an entire University of Miami fraternity getting on
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a flight to Nasau next to me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And I'm at the Starbucks. I look and I'm like, oh,
there's a chick fil A. There's a Chick fil A
in the same terminal. I start walking. I'm googling, and
I'm like, where is this. It's a thirty five minute
walk and the same ternamal. Miami Airport is the worst
setup airport on the planet. I will die on that hill.
And I think, as somebody who I have my travel quirks, like,
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because I'm on the road so much, right, I need streamline,
I need efficiency, I need good food options. I need
there to be a plane train, Like what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah? No, I get that. I actually don't remember Miami Airport,
but the long walks when you have luggage is not fun.
I will say, I've had some pretty bad memories in Atlanta,
like your airport is so big, and I'm like, where
is this tram? When do I get off? I have
now no signal down here, I can't make it to
my gate. I've definitely been stuck in at last quite I.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Hear you and I as somebody who will eventually run
for governor or mayor. I do my best to streamline that.
So I'm taking notes.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Okay, perfect. So bringing it back to golf, I would
love to ask you your thoughts on women's golf apparel.
There's a lot of new brands coming out. I like
to see her get ready with me is but what
are your thoughts? How do you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Okay, this is what I'll say. And I don't want
to kick myself in the foot because starting a golf
apparel brand has been something that I have failed at.
In the last year. I have tried to pick it
back up again. Okay, it is tough. The problem with
all these apparel brands coming out is one they're not
size inclusive, so they're making stuff that's cute, you can't
actually wear it and play in it, right, you can't
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wear it on the course, or it's made for a
tiny woman. I love some of these brands and they'll
send me stuff and I'm like, who is this made
for somebody who's five to one and a double zero?
Like I'm a tall, strapping woman who when I bend
over to pick up the ball, I don't want you
to see my buttthole, Like what has happened here? So
it's really hard meeting form, function and style. It's either
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super farty, super old lady like, or it just doesn't fit.
So while I am excited and elated to see the
enthusiasm behind women's apparel, it's clear that the guys are
still doing it and for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Okay, no feedback totally taken. I just think that actually
you're like the first person that I've actually asked that
it's like not necessarily in the golf world. And it's
so interesting because it's like, yes, golf is growing, yes
with so many women's golf friends, But I'm like, are
we now just turning it into like a runway show?
But is it functional?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Like there's a lot we can do stop functional right,
And still I see some of the girls on tour
and like, listen, Marie has got great sponsors. She's always
a neon and dressed up. Yeah, that's what's creating with
some of these women. I'm like, what what the what
do we do? And listen, they're athletes. I'm sure the
argument can be said they don't care what they look like,
which good for them. But there are days where I'm like, ladies,
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what is happening, Like, how do we find a happy
medium of putting on something where they feel like they
can go do their job, but also like, doesn't look
like we're about to pick up garbage outside of the road.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's facts We do need more like hybrid like literally
on and off the course gear, so you don't have
like a separate closet for golf wear and then you
have like workout clothes and then you have your everyday clothes.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But you see the guys like it is a big
deal when you go to the Masters, what these guys
are wearing from their spouts, for sure, they have everything
lined down, their wives are showing you what they're wearing.
It's a really big deal. Yeah, so why are we
not also putting that enthusiasm behind the female athletes.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
That's right, because we're still catching up. We're always a
few years behind for the ladies. We will get there.
We will talk about it. No, I love your feedback,
but we are already whining down. We do have one
more fun little game for you. So before we say goodbye,
we have this game. It's like a little combination of
your podcast in mind. And I'm gonna give you a
golf situation. You're gonna tell me if it's absolutely not
(36:59):
or absolute hot. Okay, Okay, all right, here we go.
Let's do it all right. Golf carts with bluetooth speakers
absolutely hot.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, But if you're playing only yacht rock, we have
a problem.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I got to hear something other than steely Dan, you know,
like I need, I need variety, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Flamingo kicks, oh, you know, absolutely hot? I don't mind it. Okay, Okay,
what's your thought?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I think it depends. So I'm in the golf personality space,
and so there are well I don't know what kind
of flamingo cakes you see, but the flamingo cakes I
see are a little like, you know, like pose kick
and you're like, what did that help your swing? Why
the fuck are we doing that? Like did your skirt
fly up? Do we like it? Like? Is that the goal?
Like I'm still like competitive in that way, Like I
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wouldn't ever view myself that way. So I don't say
absolutely hot in some some occasions.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Okay, you know everything in moderation, Like everything in moderation.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Okay, yeah, okay, golfing in a swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
If it's hot out, I'll tell you right now, that's
an absolutely hot if it works for you. But I
am always teetering on getting a use infection or UTI,
so I'm not going to do that, Okay, But I
will tell you this. I love clubs, this new age
of these different golf courses that allow you to just
wear rid of the beach. There is a time and
place when you're at the country club, when you're in Augusta.
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But it's all so nice to enjoy the game and
be in a one piece or a speedo and just
go play. It's probably not my journey, but if you
want to be out there and the course allows it,
I say, go for it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, we love it.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Hitting on the cart girl, well, I'll tell you what,
if I get canceled tomorrow, you bet you're ass I
will have that job. I will be the old cart girl,
so absolutely hot. If you're married. Well, here's the thing.
The power is in the cart girls. That's true. They
deal with these merry guys all the time. If you're
making money, do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Okay, all right. Men playing in white golf pants absolutely not. Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I would rather than playing grace wet pants. And let's
just call it what it is so we can see
the outline of their dogs. But other than that, these
white pants, I'm always worried somebody's gonna something's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I agree, And I'm like sometimes they're a little see through.
Am I the only one that's seen that. It's also
a level of confidence, like, unless you're on the tour,
I don't really recommend wearing the white pants.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
No, I'm right there with you. And then when they're
out there and it's the middle of August, it's ten
thousand degrees and you can just see the swamp.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's not a good absolute, especially in Atlanta. It's definitely
not happening. Okay. An all women's golf country club.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
So I pitched that a while ago. The Trinity Club
is what I want to call it, because it's two
in the pink, one and the stink, because you know,
we have three holes, so we have three holes. So
and I said that we would we would only have
nine holes on the course and then you would do
a lazy river in between the holes if you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Okay, So what happened to pitch?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The pitch is I haven't sound funding yet, but we're
working on it.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay, let me know. I'm joining. I think a lot
of women talk about this, about having an all women's
golf country club, especially like that. I think that would
like pop off, Like how great would that be?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
If the boys can have their all male clubs, then
we should be able to have ours too, fucking louly
and then after a round you go get a blowout,
you go get a fabulous meal, you get your nails done,
you still pampy yourself. There's a childcare like one and done.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
And it's like on Wednesdays after five pm, maybe men
can play. We have like may rules, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
They're not allowed to speak. They're not allowed to say
a single word. But they can play love that.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Okay. Last one? Iron covers?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Oh my god, exact, absolutely not. I'm exhausted.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I know.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Really you get an iron cover?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I know? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I know? I mean, are you gonna put an iron
cover on a hammer? I don't think so. That doesn't
make any fucking sense. No, we're not. We're not doing that.
It's a tool. Get over it. It's meant to be.
It's that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That's the thing. I am not very precious with my clubs.
Like I obviously clean them, I maintained them, but also, like,
like you said, it's a tool, why aren't we using
this shit?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
There's nothing better than seeing some guy who's like played
three rounds of golf in his life and he's got
every chotchke and cover in his bag and it's but dazzled.
But you're like, this guy can't even hit.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
No, I'm like, you're taking too long. Stop it, put
it taken and off, put a stop it. It's really annoying. Okay, Yeah, Heather,
I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much for
joining the party. Where can everyone find you?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You can find me on the interwebs at header k
McMahon on the tiktoks the instagrams. I'm on tour right now.
That's right, So get your tickets and Heather on tour
and you know you'll see me in the mean streets
or maybe at the golf course.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I love it. Thank you so much, Heather.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Thanks Sonny.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Welcome to the Party with Tasha Allen is an Iheartwoman's
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I think golf is such a personal sport. It's not
like playing tennis where you can just you know, you
have your cardios decent and then you get a decent backswing,
you can volley with someone else and keep up. Golf
is very intimidating, and I think what people have to
realize is, no matter what stage of golf you're at,
it will always be hard. The pros can shank it.
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They're in the water every weekend. They have whipped it too,
So just remember no matter where you're starting or what
level you're at. At some point, even Tiger Woods has said,
I fucking hate this.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hello, friends, welcome back to the party. I really hope
you enjoyed last week's episode. This week's episode, you're not
gonna want to miss a lot more lighthearted and more
fun because our guests is a comedian. But before we
get into that, I wanted to share with you all
some new news. Say in case you haven't seen or
in case you don't follow me, I recently launched my
woman's golf appare line called all in Golf just like
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my name, Tisha Allin, but phonetically said it's all in
like you're all in, and I am so excited, but
also ten out of ten do not recommend starting off
and just creating your own brand unless you are strong
as nails, because man, it's tough. But gosh, our launch
happened just a few days ago and it's the most
fulfilling feeling. And I really just wanted to create this
(01:29):
woman's golf brand, not only because I didn't feel like
I really had much representation in women's golf were growing up,
but also in the women's golf community. I really wanted
to create something where all women are welcomed, no matter
what color, what size, I mean everyone, even men. If
men want to wear my women's golf brand, let's fucking go,
because women wear men's brands all the time. But also
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beyond that, I really wanted to create a community where
all these women feel like they are a part of
a sisterhood, a golf sisterhood. I wouldn't be where I
am without my sisterhood, so I want all the others
to feel that, especially when they wear the gear. So
if you haven't seen it yet, please check it out
All in goolf dot com at All in Golf on
Instagram as well. Anyways, I actually submitted a Q and
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A before or according this because I have one brain
cell left after my launch, but someone actually submitted and said,
why don't you share about one of your best, your
most memorable fan and or celebrity slash athletes experiences. So
my favorite most memorable athlete interaction, I mean I have
to go golfy on this one. Tiger Woods. I mean,
(02:36):
come on, like dream come true. I've actually had the
opportunity to work alongside or be in the presence of
Tiger I think four times now, and every time I've
met him, the aura is just elite, Like every time
I've been around him. If you can actually see like
a red glow of an aura around a human being,
(02:59):
that would Tiger legit like, I can't explain another individual
in this lifetime that could ever make me feel that
same aura.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Even when he's.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Laughing and most relaxed, which I've been very fortunate to
be around him during times when he was not in
a competitive mindset, his aura is still just like you know,
you're in the presence of greatness. However, in my last
interaction with him, which was a twenty twenty three TGR
Foundation event where I was a tea master, I announced
the tea times for his junior players. I actually had
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the opportunity to spend twenty to thirty minutes with him,
just me and him and one other and there was
no crowd allowed because we were in the VIP area.
You know, people wanted to take photos and do all
these things, and it was just it was crazy. And
when I got to walk up to him, he said, Tisha,
so great to see you and embraced me a speechless speechless.
(03:56):
First of all, I died a little because Tisha is
not how you say my name. It's Tisha, But you
know what, for the goats, I am Tisha for that day,
I was Teasha all in because Tiger said so, and
I took that embrace in and couldn't believe I was
hugging him like I was his fucking friend. Anyway, So
we embraced and we got to talk, and like I
(04:16):
had twenty or thirty minutes it, just talked to him
and asked questions, and really I was just listening to him.
He rambled on a lot about golf. He is so
detail oriented and there are no shortcuts with this man.
It was just very interesting, you know, even though that
aura was definitely there, What made that experience extremely unique
to me was the fact that I was also around
just a father who loves his son. Charlie was in
(04:38):
the field that day competing in his TGR event, and
watching him smile, watching them you know, wrap it up
and embrace and him cheer him on and also tease
him was so different and it really made Tiger feel like, Wow,
he's just a father who loves his son. And funny,
if we actually talked about Charlie really big hands. He
(05:02):
was saying, like, I can't believe the myts that he has.
He called it mits I think, and he was like, yeah,
his hands are like larger than mine, and he was saying,
how is Charlie's feet are larger than his? End We
talked about how to hit tight shots and pick clean
shots off tight lies, which I still can't do to
this day. He was talking to me how him and jordan'
speeth were talking about it and working through that shot.
(05:24):
Still don't know how to do it. We also talked
about this one was very interesting to me, how he
feels sorry for kids who get pushed too hard. And
how that topic got brought up was because we were
talking about Charlie a little bit, and how he watches
other parents caddy for their kids and he sees how
tough other parents are on them, and he was like,
I just I never want to be that. I just
(05:44):
want to encourage my kids, Like how does that make
them better? And he was also talking about his daughter
and how proud he is of her because she is
an overachiever, like a straight A student, and she feels
a lot of pressure and the weight of school on
her shoulders, and she had come to him crying one
time and he was just like telling her how like, ah,
(06:04):
you know, you just don't need to feel the pressure
and just encourage her and make her feel at ease.
And I was like, wow, that's just so cool. It
was just such a human experience to just watch Tiger
talk about things in such a normal manner, because we
I mean, he's idolized and so just to see him
be a father was really really cool. Anyways, that was
(06:25):
my experience with Tiger. I really hope that I'll have
more experiences with him. But now it's time to introduce
to you my next guest. This one you don't want
to miss. I am so hyped because she's not just
hilarious but she just gets it. She's a comedian, actress, writer,
podcast queen. You've probably left your ass off to her podcast,
but here's what you might not know. Pathan McMahon, she
(06:45):
is a golfer and she's a pretty good one too.
She actually started golf at a young age through her dad,
and she was actually competing at seven. But then, just
like a lot of us, the pressure got real and
then she stepped away. But now she's trying to get
back into it. And she actually talks a lot about
her comparisons between golf and comedy, which I think is
very unique. And so she's bold, she's brash, she's fabulous,
(07:07):
and I could not be more excited to welcome the
one and only Heather McMahon to the party. Heather, Hi,
Welcome to the party. That's the name of the podcast.
I don't even know if you knew that, but well,
I love a party.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know, girl, I'm a comic. You know I love
a pun so I love it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I know e've ben trying so hard to catch each other.
I really appreciate you making the time. Thank you for
being here, Hey, thank.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You for having me. And you know, this is like
the craziest time of year for me, and I just
I'm sorry I look so disheveled. I was on a
comedy cruise the last week and then I spent Easter
sitting in the jerks and Cake goes airport sweating my
balls off. So that's, oh my gosh, that's why I
look rough.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You know, you don't look rough, hair mask and all.
You look great.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay, So we usually actually like to start off every
pot with a little game, a little bit of four
play more puns, love it, and your game is called
Heather said, what So, I'm basically gonna share a quote
that you may or may not have said, and you're
gonna tell me if it's true or false.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's deeply concerning and I'm scared, but I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, great, okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
First one, the only time I feel truly alive is
when I'm getting the last piece of cake at the party.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I feel like I probably said that, Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Was true, that was on your podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, okay, all.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right, here's my question. If the Aliens come down, do
they pay taxes? I definitely said that, yeah, yeah, it
was TikTok yep. Okay, I almost joined a cult once,
but they didn't have brunch. I feel like I probably
said that it's a false but I feel like you
would say that if the.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Cult didn't have good food, like if it was like
shitty catering, I would not join. I like, I'm so sorry, guys.
I love the white comfy robes. The alfhits are nice.
I don't even mind the worshiping of whatever said older
white gentlemen. But I gotta get a good meal, not
the white robes.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Okay, it's like, what white cult are we joined?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Which it could be any it could be any.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay, halfway through? All right, there's three things in this
world that get me excited. One the Lord, two a
mic ultra, three free wings in that order.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I'll tell you right now that is absolutely something I said.
Is that still gets me excited?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I love God, I love a cold beer, and I
love some hot wings. We love it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I love that, all right. There's nothing worse than when
your thighs are rubbing together and you're stuck in a
sand trap.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I don't think I said that, but I also agree
with that sentiment.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You actually did say that in your podcast. It was
the What's in the Bag series.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Oh yeah, I mean I will say there is nothing
worse than just being hot and sweaty and having thigh
chase out in the green. There's nothing worse.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Literally, that's that, okay. I mean you know yourself pretty good.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, I try to be self aware, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Heather.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
You're a golf girly like through and through. I would
love to hear your story in terms of how you
got into golf. We gotta start from the very basics first,
all right.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
So I started playing golf when I was a kid.
I grew up that typical suburban lifestyle where your mom
dropped you off at the club at seven am. You
did swim team first, and then after that you did
golf for tennis. Okay, okay. And my dad wanted my
sister and I to play golf because he was like,
you know, this big businessman, He's like, that's how you're
going to close all your deals and get respect in
(10:19):
this world is on the golf course. So I started
playing competitive golf when I was like seven. I would
I was junior club champion, I would do all these
things and just play and I loved it. And then
I got to high school and it became competitive and
I actually had to give a shit and it destroyed
the game of golf for me. So I talked about
it a lot in my last special Breadwinner about how,
(10:39):
you know, like my dad wanted me to join the LPGA,
want me to play in college, and I just wanted
to be a song and dance girl. I loved a
musical theater, I loved comedy. For I think a lot
of kids, once the sport became not fun anymore and
super competitive, we were all like, I don't care about
this that much, Like it's supposed to be fun. Yeah,
it's easy to win a club championship when you're seven
and there's like three other girls to get beat with,
(11:01):
and they're also like in wet bathing suits from swim team.
You know, like we didn't give a shit. We knew
we were getting chicken tenders and a grilled cheese at
the end, and that was the motivation.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
So I really gave up golf for like, I don't know,
fifteen years. I mean I would go a couple balls,
but I did not play. And then once I got married,
my husband is just a golf fanatic and I always,
of course followed golf, and I'm a fan of golfers,
and I'm friends with a lot of golfers. And then
I finally started getting back into it. You know, my
swing is shit. I don't even have a handicap right
(11:31):
now because I don't play enough to like accumulate one,
like I've dedicated. I said this fall, I am going
to start playing again and really get into it because
I miss it. I miss the game. And I say
that golf and comedy are very similar. It's a solo sport. Yes,
if you have a bad night in comedy, or if
you have a bad day on the golf course, you
will blame anybody but yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You know, that's literally facts.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yes, Oh, it was windy, the crowd was weird. I
didn't like the course. I got stuck in the sand
trap I in comedy, it's the same thing. The crowd
was weird, I didn't like the lighting in the room.
You'll blame anybody, but the fact that you were just
like having a shitty day.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You know, Wait, where did you grow up playing golf
in Atlanta? Is that still where you are?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
And I still play at the club I grew up
at no, I.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Okay, Yeah, so you went to the Masters.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I went to the Masters. We got all the tournaments.
I love it, which I love. I love being a
spectator and a follower of golf because I have an
understanding of the game. Yes, and I understand how hard
it is when you see your friends succeed and when
it's like that much more bittersweet in a great way,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I was looking at your master's photos. I feel like
you brought this up to me briefly when we first met.
But your friends of Maria FOSSi.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yes, Maria FOSSi is a dear friend of mine. Yes,
and I adore her.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
For those of you who are listening and don't know
who Maria FOSSi is while you're sleeping under a rock,
and she's on the LPGA. And she also competed in
the ONWA which took place at Augusta, I don't know,
three four years ago, and she played phenomenally. But yes, no,
would love to know how you guys met, how you
guys know each other. You follow LPGA stuff too.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, So she went to Arkansas. I went to Ole, Miss.
So we have a ton of mutual friends, sorority sisters,
so we met through friends and then as soon as
I met Marie, I just absolutely fell in love with her.
And then she started getting us involved with more LPG events,
which that's for me, like seeing women in golf. I
come from that world. I understand the pressure and championing
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them and just rooting for them is like the greatest
joy of my life. Like I want to see people
out at these tournaments rooting on these women.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I appreciate anyone who just understands the difficulty of golf,
but let alone women's golf. It's really fucking hard. Yeah,
and girls don't have it easy. The prize money is
not quite there. And I mean, no, that's so awesome
that you're into it. And I know that your husband
is also a really big fan of golf too. And
I know in your comedy show you talk about being
(13:54):
a golf widow. Can you please explain to the listeners
what does that even mean? In what position are you
in right now?
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So, a golf widow is anybody whose spouse might as
well be dead because they play so much golf. Like
I don't see him, he disappears in the woods. It's
like every weekend is an episode of dateline or twenty twenty.
It's like, where is my husband and I have to
track him on the cell phone and he's deep in
the woods on the back nine. And then that's always
an excuse I didn't have cell phone service. You know
(14:22):
we oh oh, we got stuck behind another group and
they just disappear for twelve hours and it's so annoyed.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
That's so true. You can literally get away with anything,
no signal, you're lost, You're gone for nine hours, and
somehow it's excusable, which like, I don't know why golf
should ever take that long punch, So it shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, you want to hear about people getting in trouble
for slow play on the tour, and I'm like, honey,
slow play. You've never played behind my husband. He takes
his sweet fucking time.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh that's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
So where are you at with golf now? How frequently
are you getting out there?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I am getting out there maybe once a month, which
I'm not proud of.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, not the worst, not the worst, not the worst.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Tuesdays usually like my day to catch my breath or
come up for air. So I'm trying to get a
lesson in, but I'll tell you what is jarring. Being
a decent golfer growing up and having that like kind
of natural ability as a kid, then not touching a
club for fifteen years and then having to start from
scratch is the most humbling.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Humiliated golf is humbling.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And I thought I would just like it would click,
I'd be right back in it. At the amount of
work I need to, I mean, I have no drive.
I'm a short games decent. I'm a great chipper potter,
like I think I'm decent there. But my god, it's
like I lost the strength. I've got sciatica. I got
to go to physical therapy, and I told myself this fall,
(15:53):
I'm going to dedicate my days off to golf.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
No.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I love that for you. Now. I know that you
you talk about your dad quite a bit, and I
know that he passed away a few years ago, and
he was a huge influence in your life and and
your Netflix special son. I never had. I feel like
it's like a love letter to him in many ways.
How did he shape your love for the game.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
My dad was just one of those guys who loved
being a girl. Dad and he would always tell me
there's nothing you can't do, like was my number one
champion and truest me. We butted heads tremendously when I said, Hey,
I'm going to quit sports and I'm gonna go pursue
comedy because he's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
But you know, my dad was just smart. He told
me I became the queen of networking. He told me
how to go out there and socialize. And it's true.
I tell women all the time, you want to meet
a man or you want to like you play in
their ballgame, like go to the golf course. Oh yeah,
that'sh you know, beat him at their own game. If
you can't beat him, join them, Like what are we
(16:53):
doing here? So he taught me a lot of life
lessons and that, and there were just really great moments
of you know, Sunday afternoons going to play the Part
three and it was like our Sunday routine. We'd play
the Part three, the sun would be setting, we'd have
dinner at the club and it was just like our
sweet little time together and that was just so special.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So, I know, we talked about a little bit ago
like the similarities between like golf and comedy. There's a
lot of parallels, I thought our mutual Becky Robinson introduced us.
She was like, you can, you can keep doing the
same thing, but it's gonna land differently each time. You're
gonna keep hitting the same shot. You can shit it
one day, you can pull it the next, and the
same thing with your jokes and whatnot. Now, in golf,
(17:33):
you generally get a few minutes to reset, But in comedy,
how do you handle it when the jokes aren't quite
hitting the way you want it to?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Well, I feel like very similar to golf, Like you
see John Rahm just want to take out a golf
club and snappy yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
In comedy oftentimes you call it out too. You're like, ooh,
that one didn't land, or ooh a little too sensitive
for this audience. I think you kind of call it
out just the same way golfers are, Like, you know,
when shit's not working, you have to pivot or you know,
you push through, and then you get off stage and
you're like, I got to reassess my life.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was gonna say, like, I feel like I commend
you guys, just because I feel like it's such a
vulnerable thing to do, Like I can't even imagine being
on stage and realizing because you get direct feedback that like, yo,
that joke did not land, Like okay, like f myself, like,
how do you you just hear you on that?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I hear you on that, But I gotta be
honest with you. And maybe I'm a sociopath, but I
think that their comics would agree.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I can't handle that kind of feedback if you ask me, like,
because that's the world that I understand. If you ask
me to like file your taxes, I would be sweating.
I would be vomiting. I'd be shaking in my boots. Like,
you know, being funny and silly is even if it
doesn't always go the way I want it to, it's
still rewarding.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
There are other gigs that I just know I would
not be good at, and most of them would be
any sort of financial advisor. I'm like, we'll make more money,
We'll figure it.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Out, right, you know, Yeah, no, that makes sense. I
think Like being a comedian, I think is like a
really interesting career path. And when we were at Netflix
as a joke, you and Becky were chatting. We all
sat together and you were kind of talking about your
show and the week you had to get ready and
talking about the material some things they needed to change.
Pretty last second, can you talk to me about your
(19:26):
process when planning and creating your sets.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, so I may do it a little bit differently
than other people. Like I mean, obviously, you start out
and you have ideas, and then you'll go run the
show ten minutes here, fifteen minutes here, and clubs and
you want to like work out those pieces. But because
I come from a theater background with comedy, I look
at the whole picture. So I don't start a new
hour even if things will change, Like if I start
(19:53):
the tour, the hour may be totally different by the
time I get to the end. But I start with
what I think is an hour and then real ninety minutes,
and then I edit from there. So I kind of
do it a little bit backwards. I write on the road,
I write as I go. The creative process for me
is terrifying, but it's the most fun part. Like I
love to create new and listen. It's one thing being
(20:15):
on the road. But like the amount of content that
we're all supposed to like crank out is kind of diabolical.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh, it's mentally it's just debilitating.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It's debilitating. I do have a podcast that I have
to do every week, and then I'm on the road,
and then you've got to come up with social media content.
And there are days where I feel like I've gotten dumber.
I'm like, I don't have a creative, thoughtful, like idea
in my brain right Like after the cruise, I was like,
I can't form a sentence. I am overstimulated.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I mean, I get it. But that's why we have
chat GPT because that's saves life. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's a great comic Mike Cannon, and he has a
whole shtick where he asks like AI to write jokes.
Oh no, it's so terrible. And I'm like, this is
why I I do feel job security that AI could
never come for my job because it's pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
That makes sense, Yeah, A, I definitely can't sling on
golf club for me, So we have that going for us.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah exactly. I mean if the robots start to end up,
then we're fun.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Then we're super fucked. Do you have any pre show
rituals or superstitions? Is that a thing I do?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
So you know, I partied on the cruise but I'm
usually pretty like sober when I'm performing. I just I honestly,
at thirty eight, I can't kick, I can't bounce back
like I used to. But my pre show ritual is
I always do my own hair and makeup, like that
is my thing that it calms me down. I put
on a very specific playlist. I listen to cocktail jazz
(21:43):
on Spotify, and then I have like a pre show
playlist that has like, you know, it's got Megna Stallion,
it's got Cardi, you know, and the freaking Indigo girls.
Like it's just like my female empowerment playlist. And that's
what I listened to. Right before I go out, I
wrap on my glitter suits, I put on my boots.
I do a thing called leg lube where I take
(22:05):
lotion right before I go out and I really shine
up the hams. I get the in between the legs. Yeah,
and then that's my pre show. Leg glube is like
what I do right before I go out on stage,
and I say a prayer and then we.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Let it rip and then after that everything that's good
to go after you do, Yeah, all those steps, I
love it. How about golf superstitions? Do you have any
of that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, you know, if you have a good round, you
don't change the juju that's going on in your back. Yes,
you don't change it. You play the same ball if
you had the same ball marker, You wear the same hat.
Oh for sure. You got to eat a peanut, butter
and jelly uncrustable, same things. Yeah, I mean there's very
specific things that we all do because we don't want
to mess up the ye. I'll tell you what though.
(22:48):
I like how the Japanese play golf though, just hear
me out, okay, how they sit down and have like
a full oma cause in between, Like.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh, that's right, yes, I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Like to play fast because I'm getting old. I would
like if I could sit down and like sit down
for lunch, have a full meal at reset, and then
go back out.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You know what I'm down with that? You know, Well,
do you plan any pro ams?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I don't, but I'm hoping to get into that.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, we're gonna have to get you into some because
I mean it's not almost casse. But you'll get a
burger and a hot dog in between. You'll sit down.
You may play a six hour round, but you get
a meal in between.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's what I would like.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
The problem is in my comedy world it's go, go, go, rush,
rush Rush. Nowadays, I'm like, I want to sit at
the term. Yeah, I want to sit down, have a
white wine sprinzer and a nice sandwich and then let's
get up and go again.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You know a good point. Okay, So we're gonna have
to get you into a prim I'll tell my people.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Okay, okay, good.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So talk about the grind of getting to where you
are now, Like, how many years were you doing comedy
before it actually started to pay off?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Well?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I first did stand up in high school, and I
the first one did stand up. I performed my high
school prom where I like roasted the senior class, and
so that was my first time like specifically doing stand up.
I did theater in college. Then I moved to New
York and started doing improv and sketch because I really
wanted to be on SNL. So I started in stand
up kind of pivoted to more character work. And Becky
(24:17):
and I are very similar, where like my first tour,
I opened for myself as somebody else, this real estate
agent character that I used to have Brenda Carlisle, Oh,
I need to bring back. So I always kind of
dabbled in like the character world and then stand up
and would kind of nix the two. I was doing
it forever, but it wasn't until about i'd say seven
years ago that things really started to take off. A
(24:39):
lot of what people are doing on TikTok now I
was doing on Instagram. And when Instagram Stories first came out,
that was like my bread and butter. They were fifteen
seconds long. I knew how to write a fifteen second joke.
I knew exactly how to draw people in. So that's
how people found me. And you know, I give a
lot of credit to people who come up through social media.
It doesn't mean that you didn't have the training or
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weren't grinding it out in other aspects. It was just
like we all got smart and realized how to put
it out there on a platform.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But it was I mean, I was hustling for twelve
years before anything really took off, and I never had
a backup plan, much to my parents to say, I
was just like, I will figure it out. I worked
every service job. I worked as a nanny, I worked
at a gym. It was a bartender, waitress, personal assistant,
anything you can imagine I did to fuel that dream
(25:28):
of pursuing comedy.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
How did your parents take it when you were like, you, guys,
this is what I want to do, Like, this is
my career path.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
My mom was like, follow your dreams. My dad, of course, listen.
I have a lot of empathy for parents. I'm not
one myself, but I understand that your parents don't know
what they're doing. Right humans do they parent out of fear.
My dad was super successful. He knew that I had
the charisma to do whatever I wanted, but he didn't
know anybody in the business he you know, like, so
(25:57):
my dad wasn't discouraging, but he was very hesitant because
he wanted. He knew that I had potential to be successful. Listen,
if I had to go do real estate, I would
also crush.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It, you know absolutely, people person, Yeah, but I just.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Knew that I wasn't ever going to take no for
an answer and keep going and listen. It is very
bittersweet that all the success I've had, my dad hasn't
been here to see it. But I know he also
I wouldn't be here without him, So it's a double
edged sword. It's bittersweet, but that's why I try and
just work my ass off. I love what I do.
(26:30):
You know, there are hard days on the road. Absolutely
you're exhausted, you feel like you're a shell of a human,
or you feel like you're only as good as your
last gig. But at the end of the day, I
tried never to complain, just quietly alone to myself as
I scream into a billow. But no, like I feel blessed.
I get to work with my best friends, other cool comedians,
(26:50):
and I'm telling jokes for a living and bringing joy.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I mean, no, that's a good point. I mean it's
like you could sit a cubicle all day, or you
can choose your heart. And this is a pretty pretty
cool hard you know, so it's a pretty cool harding.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Trust me. I have I read comments about myself on
Reddit that make me want to jump off the roof. Yes,
you know, there are other aspects, not the redit. I
swear to god. People on Reddit are me fucking miserable,
I think to myself, Or like when you open a
nasty DM from somebody's psychotic you're like, I have never
even before I had a blue check mark where people
(27:25):
could follow me.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I have never in my entire life been like I
want to send somebody a nastiness energy. Yeah, I don't
get it. So so you do read your comments at times, yes,
and the comments are mostly positive because I'll tell you
what women are actually lovely. It's when you get here
of the hidden dms where you're like, oh god, this is.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Crazy, it got weird, it got sexual. I don't know
where we're going with this. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I get angry with though, And I tell the guys.
When I see my buddies and my girlfriends who play
professional sports and the off le fans that are so
delusional the way they step. That's why I was like, yeah, Rory,
please win the Masters, just so I don't everybody.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, literally, it's like you get out there and do
it exactly. These in cell men who make comments on
the golf, I'm like, honey, you couldn't hit a drive
fifty yards if we put roller blades on you. Like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, no, literal facts. Something about the men in the
golf world that are golf fans are I just don't
feel like they're like this in other sports. It's very critical,
it's very mean. I'm like, you know, you lose like
ninety nine percent of the time, right, Like if this
is not like a you know, basketball where one team wins,
one team like, you have a very eygh chance of
losing at all times, and you still choose to play golf.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, And I tell them all the time, I'm like,
I empathize and sympathize, but I truly idolize these guys
because I don't know how they fucking do it. Yeah,
I mean you don't. You may not win for three
or four years, right, and then everybody's sliding your DM all,
you've lost your tied to losses. You're playing in a
field of one hundred and something players every fucking weekend,
the best of the there's the only room for one winner,
(29:07):
right what?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah? No, literally I get it. But coming back to
your career, I wanted to ask what has been your
biggest pinch me moment?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You'd say, Yeah, I will say obviously because it's very
fresh being on the cruise. I cried every fifteen minutes
on the boat, like I can't believe we've created this community.
And that's the cool thing. You know, when you do
art and you're creative. You you never know how people
(29:37):
interpret it. And to see people laughing and together, that
was the best feeling. I mean, obviously, playing Radio City
was one of the most amazing moments of my life. Like,
I'm sitting in my office, I see my poster it's like,
you know, from Radio City, like sold out. Like moments
like that are truly pinched me moments. But I'm just grateful.
(29:59):
I mean, I'm I mean, I'm going to play Phoenix
this weekend, and I'm so pumped to be back at
the Orphy and see all the girlies. Yeah. Every night
that I get out on stage and people are in
the audience and they know my jokes and they are
in on it, and they're they're allowing me to do
my job to entertain them, it's always a pinch me moment.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh no, I mean you've done You've done a lot,
You've had a couple of specials. Now, yeah, you've hosted
was it the Golden Globes? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I did? I did the right carpet, the right cackpet.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I mean, that's still that's still so awesome. I can't
I'd be so stressed doing something like that. I'm like,
why do I study for her? Let me tell you what.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Hosting is the hardest job I've ever had. I could
get in here six Yeah, No, truly it is. You
have to know facts. You're on live television, you ever produced,
you're yelling in your ear. You have whoever the actor actresses,
you have their publicists like yelling at somebody behind the scenes.
You're like, what is happening? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, did you have an earpiece in that? During that? Too?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I had an ear piece? I was I was out
of my mind.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh my god. I I really appreciate you saying that
because I will say that in the hosting world, and
we'll get into podcasting because it's like different but same.
But it's like in the hosting world when you have
someone yelling in your ear and you're also trying to
streamline a thought and you're trying to like smile and
like look normal at the person you're talking to, and
I'm like, I'm in front of fucking arian A Grande.
(31:18):
Do you really think I can handle you like streamlining me?
So it's a whole different beasts. You have to like
be able to almost segregate your thoughts and so it's different,
but you did it.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
And it's tough trying to be present and get the
information out of a person. Yeah, like you're you're also
having that out of body moment where you're like, I
am actually in the presence.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Of yes, no, I understand it. And then it's like
people in the comments when they're critiquing you, they're they're
also like, it doesn't really feel like you're listening to them,
Like you're just trying to ask questions a question I'm like, yeah, bitch,
because do you understand how many thoughts are in my brain?
Like not all the time?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You know that there's a producer saying you, I have
eight more questions that you have to get through or
the network's gonna fire.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
No, No one knows the other side of it exactly.
But again, that is something where you want to say,
get up here.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
You do it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I dare yah.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Okay, So we talked about podcasting. So I'm pretty new
to the podcasting world. But you've actually had your podcast now,
which is called absolutely Not, for more than five years.
What would you say, is an absolutely not moment that
you've experienced in the last few weeks or maybe on
the course.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
An absolutely not moment that I've had in the last
couple of weeks. This has nothing to do with golf.
The Miami Airport is a cesspool. It is seventh layer
of hell. They're like, you can walk from every concourse.
Let me tell you. I got off the cruise at
seven am. I was so hungover. I at the shakes.
I'm about to bore my flight to the Turks and Caicos. Okay,
there is an entire University of Miami fraternity getting on
(33:07):
a flight to Nasau next to me.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Love that.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And I'm at the Starbucks. I look and I'm like, oh,
there's a chick fil A. There's a Chick fil A
in the same terminal. I start walking. I'm googling, and
I'm like, where is this. It's a thirty five minute
walk and the same ternamal. Miami Airport is the worst
setup airport on the planet. I will die on that hill.
And I think, as somebody who I have my travel quirks, like,
(33:30):
because I'm on the road so much, right, I need streamline,
I need efficiency, I need good food options. I need
there to be a plane train, Like what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah? No, I get that. I actually don't remember Miami Airport,
but the long walks when you have luggage is not fun.
I will say, I've had some pretty bad memories in Atlanta,
like your airport is so big, and I'm like, where
is this tram? When do I get off? I have
now no signal down here, I can't make it to
my gate. I've definitely been stuck in at last quite I.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Hear you and I as somebody who will eventually run
for governor or mayor. I do my best to streamline that.
So I'm taking notes.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Okay, perfect. So bringing it back to golf, I would
love to ask you your thoughts on women's golf apparel.
There's a lot of new brands coming out. I like
to see her get ready with me is but what
are your thoughts? How do you feel about it?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Okay, this is what I'll say. And I don't want
to kick myself in the foot because starting a golf
apparel brand has been something that I have failed at.
In the last year. I have tried to pick it
back up again. Okay, it is tough. The problem with
all these apparel brands coming out is one they're not
size inclusive, so they're making stuff that's cute, you can't
actually wear it and play in it, right, you can't
(34:44):
wear it on the course, or it's made for a
tiny woman. I love some of these brands and they'll
send me stuff and I'm like, who is this made
for somebody who's five to one and a double zero?
Like I'm a tall, strapping woman who when I bend
over to pick up the ball, I don't want you
to see my buttthole, Like what has happened here? So
it's really hard meeting form, function and style. It's either
(35:06):
super farty, super old lady like, or it just doesn't fit.
So while I am excited and elated to see the
enthusiasm behind women's apparel, it's clear that the guys are
still doing it and for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Okay, no feedback totally taken. I just think that actually
you're like the first person that I've actually asked that
it's like not necessarily in the golf world. And it's
so interesting because it's like, yes, golf is growing, yes
with so many women's golf friends, But I'm like, are
we now just turning it into like a runway show?
But is it functional?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Like there's a lot we can do stop functional right,
And still I see some of the girls on tour
and like, listen, Marie has got great sponsors. She's always
a neon and dressed up. Yeah, that's what's creating with
some of these women. I'm like, what what the what
do we do? And listen, they're athletes. I'm sure the
argument can be said they don't care what they look like,
which good for them. But there are days where I'm like, ladies,
(35:58):
what is happening, Like, how do we find a happy
medium of putting on something where they feel like they
can go do their job, but also like, doesn't look
like we're about to pick up garbage outside of the road.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's facts We do need more like hybrid like literally
on and off the course gear, so you don't have
like a separate closet for golf wear and then you
have like workout clothes and then you have your everyday clothes.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But you see the guys like it is a big
deal when you go to the Masters, what these guys
are wearing from their spouts, for sure, they have everything
lined down, their wives are showing you what they're wearing.
It's a really big deal. Yeah, so why are we
not also putting that enthusiasm behind the female athletes.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
That's right, because we're still catching up. We're always a
few years behind for the ladies. We will get there.
We will talk about it. No, I love your feedback,
but we are already whining down. We do have one
more fun little game for you. So before we say goodbye,
we have this game. It's like a little combination of
your podcast in mind. And I'm gonna give you a
golf situation. You're gonna tell me if it's absolutely not
(36:59):
or absolute hot. Okay, Okay, all right, here we go.
Let's do it all right. Golf carts with bluetooth speakers
absolutely hot.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, But if you're playing only yacht rock, we have
a problem.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I got to hear something other than steely Dan, you know,
like I need, I need variety, gotcha?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Flamingo kicks, oh, you know, absolutely hot? I don't mind it. Okay, Okay,
what's your thought?
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I think it depends. So I'm in the golf personality space,
and so there are well I don't know what kind
of flamingo cakes you see, but the flamingo cakes I
see are a little like, you know, like pose kick
and you're like, what did that help your swing? Why
the fuck are we doing that? Like did your skirt
fly up? Do we like it? Like? Is that the goal?
Like I'm still like competitive in that way, Like I
(37:48):
wouldn't ever view myself that way. So I don't say
absolutely hot in some some occasions.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Okay, you know everything in moderation, Like everything in moderation.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Okay, yeah, okay, golfing in a swimsuit.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
If it's hot out, I'll tell you right now, that's
an absolutely hot if it works for you. But I
am always teetering on getting a use infection or UTI,
so I'm not going to do that, Okay, But I
will tell you this. I love clubs, this new age
of these different golf courses that allow you to just
wear rid of the beach. There is a time and
place when you're at the country club, when you're in Augusta.
(38:24):
But it's all so nice to enjoy the game and
be in a one piece or a speedo and just
go play. It's probably not my journey, but if you
want to be out there and the course allows it,
I say, go for it.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, we love it.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Hitting on the cart girl, well, I'll tell you what,
if I get canceled tomorrow, you bet you're ass I
will have that job. I will be the old cart girl,
so absolutely hot. If you're married. Well, here's the thing.
The power is in the cart girls. That's true. They
deal with these merry guys all the time. If you're
making money, do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Okay, all right. Men playing in white golf pants absolutely not. Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I would rather than playing grace wet pants. And let's
just call it what it is so we can see
the outline of their dogs. But other than that, these
white pants, I'm always worried somebody's gonna something's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I agree, And I'm like sometimes they're a little see through.
Am I the only one that's seen that. It's also
a level of confidence, like, unless you're on the tour,
I don't really recommend wearing the white pants.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
No, I'm right there with you. And then when they're
out there and it's the middle of August, it's ten
thousand degrees and you can just see the swamp.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
It's not a good absolute, especially in Atlanta. It's definitely
not happening. Okay. An all women's golf country club.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
So I pitched that a while ago. The Trinity Club
is what I want to call it, because it's two
in the pink, one and the stink, because you know,
we have three holes, so we have three holes. So
and I said that we would we would only have
nine holes on the course and then you would do
a lazy river in between the holes if you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Okay, So what happened to pitch?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
The pitch is I haven't sound funding yet, but we're
working on it.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Okay, let me know. I'm joining. I think a lot
of women talk about this, about having an all women's
golf country club, especially like that. I think that would
like pop off, Like how great would that be?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
If the boys can have their all male clubs, then
we should be able to have ours too, fucking louly
and then after a round you go get a blowout,
you go get a fabulous meal, you get your nails done,
you still pampy yourself. There's a childcare like one and done.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
And it's like on Wednesdays after five pm, maybe men
can play. We have like may rules, okay, but.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
They're not allowed to speak. They're not allowed to say
a single word. But they can play love that.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Okay. Last one? Iron covers?
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Oh my god, exact, absolutely not. I'm exhausted.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I know.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Really you get an iron cover?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Right?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I know? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
I know? I mean, are you gonna put an iron
cover on a hammer? I don't think so. That doesn't
make any fucking sense. No, we're not. We're not doing that.
It's a tool. Get over it. It's meant to be.
It's that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
That's the thing. I am not very precious with my clubs.
Like I obviously clean them, I maintained them, but also, like,
like you said, it's a tool, why aren't we using
this shit?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
There's nothing better than seeing some guy who's like played
three rounds of golf in his life and he's got
every chotchke and cover in his bag and it's but dazzled.
But you're like, this guy can't even hit.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
No, I'm like, you're taking too long. Stop it, put
it taken and off, put a stop it. It's really annoying. Okay, Yeah, Heather,
I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much for
joining the party. Where can everyone find you?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You can find me on the interwebs at header k
McMahon on the tiktoks the instagrams. I'm on tour right now.
That's right, So get your tickets and Heather on tour
and you know you'll see me in the mean streets
or maybe at the golf course.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I love it. Thank you so much, Heather.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Thanks Sonny.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Welcome to the Party with Tasha Allen is an Iheartwoman's
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and Jennifer Bassett is our producer. Sound mixing and mastering
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