September 10, 2025 • 37 mins
In this bonus episode, the tables are turned as Tisha answers your questions! With some help from fiancée Ashlee Driver picking from a fun mix of personal and golf-related questions, Tisha gets real about growing up with supportive (yet tough) Filipino parents, why she really stayed in – and left – professional golf, and the unexpected challenges and triumphs of growing a community in the women's golf space.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you ready, honey?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Hello Tisha Allan, Hi, honey, It's weird that you're calling
me that.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello honey, Girk.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So for those of you guys that are tuning in
just when you thought you can get rid of me,
you can't. Welcome to a bonus episode, and this time
the tables are turned. I'm the one being interviewed, and
I actually posted a little poll or a little questionnaire
on my story so that you all can ask me
some questions, and of course my fiance my honey group
will be asking the questions. So welcome to the party. Okay.
(00:38):
I really don't know where these questions are going. I'm
pretty just like free for all, and I'm a very
open book.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So I love it. I'm ready. I will say there's
a good mix of personal and golf related questions, obviously. Okay,
so let's just start off fun. Who in your life
keeps you humble and how I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Honestly, I don't think anything humbles you more than Filipino parents.
They're very ruthless. Just when you think you look good
or feel good, they'll just be very very honest yeah
with you, but but no, Honestly, my dad was really
big about that, especially when it came to playing golf. Yeah,
he actually didn't allow me to wear certain outfits growing
up because he didn't want me to look overly confident
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like he want. I mean, he wanted me to exude
confidence through my ability and through my personality and he
but he never wanted me to look cocky or act
cocky on the course.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Does that make sense? It does a little bit. But
tell me what did a cocky kid back then look like?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Like? When you were a kid, it was like if
you had the cool belt or like the flashy gear,
flash flashy gear, flashy flashy equipment and stuff. And my
dad would be very adamant about like, no, you need
to very much play your way to the top. You
need to be your best from like your character and
and your game. And my mom is just always so humbling,
like literally, she will let me know how I, oh
(02:04):
I look.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
She's humbling so honest, so even me.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah yeah, Filipinos, Hey they humble you really really fast.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Ye, I'll never forget when I got a haircut and
she told me flat out she liked it better long
as it was freshly blown out. So I liked your hair, honey,
You think I hear. Everyone always asks you what made
you get into golf, and we know that it was
your dad at a very young age. But what's the
thing that kept you in golf all of these years? Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I mean, I think golf was something For a long time.
I knew that I was pretty decent at and because
I didn't know life without it, even when I wanted
to step away, I always found myself coming back to it.
But when I hit my so when I was in
my younger years in competing, I loved it because I
loved all the girls I got to play and travel with.
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Then I became a rebellious teen and I hated it.
And then me and my dad would always argue because
he was my coach, and I was like, I want
nothing to do with you. I want to go to school,
I want to have a social life, I want.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
To do things fun with my friends.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And then when I got older, I started to fall
back in love with the game, and I actually fell
in love with teaching and understanding it, which is why
I am part I'm an instructor as well. And then
when I stepped out of professional golf, what I really
took out of that was how amazing. It was to
really get to know the girls and go through a
grind that no one else can take away from you,
Like no one will ever really know what it's like
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of the professional golf grind of like four women sleeping
in one hotel room and trying to go to bed.
Will the other two girls have a morning wave tea
time and we have an evening wave tea time, and
we're cheering for each other, but we're against each other.
It was a different kind of grind. But I'm still
friends with a lot of those girls now and we
have given each other a bunch of opportunities because we
have that connection from pro golf. And I think after
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it was all said and done with the professional golf
career and competing, it was really like the love for
the women's golf community and the want and I feel
like partially my calling to want to make it better.
That's always what kind of keeps me coming even when
it gets tough.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Tell me about a time when you seriously considered walking
away from golf. What happened and what pulled you back
into it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well. I definitely wanted to quit when I was a teen,
when I felt like my parents just kept wanting to
encourage me into the game. It pulled me away from
my social life. Like, yeah, eighth grade through high school
and I just wanted to make friends and I wanted
to be a normal kid, and I never knew what
that was like. I never had a break. I was
never able to go to parties. I was never able
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to go to sleepovers. I easy, Yeah, I was just
training NonStop. So I wanted to quit as a teen.
And then obviously I wanted to quit as a professional golfer,
which I did. I did step away, but I haven't
really shared it too much, but I did have a pretty,
i would say verbally abusive swing coach for seven years
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and that really scarred me, and I think still scars
me when I compete because I still hear his voice
at times, and that really made me want to quit.
So when I was playing professionally and I won a
couple times on the Miniaur Circuit, I kind of felt
like when I won, it was like that's it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I did what I wanted to do. I want to
go be a social butterfly. I find a lot more
joy in the social stuff, and ever since I transitioned
into the social stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I've never wanted to quit. A lot of people know
that you are so big into community and it's one
of your key foundations. But what was your first community
project or like nonprofit thing that you did in golf,
whether it was when you were in college, when you
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were a pro, what was that first project you did.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It really wasn't until I think after professional golfer, right
as I was exiting professional golf, that that really dawned
on me. I always loved bringing women together now naturally,
especially when I was playing professionally, like I'd always connect
other women to one another. But then I was a
part of this thing called Women Would Drive And anyone
even knows what I'm talking about, you're a real og fan.
(06:12):
That was actually how I built my platform. There was
a page called Golf Babes. It transitioned into woman Would Drive.
We wanted to make something empowering because we didn't want
to be, you know, sexualized. I ended up being one
of the leaders between myself and one of my good friends, Nicki,
and that was how we met. It was just a
community that was built on Instagram. It was a way
to find other women. It was like twenty sixteen, oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, And so as we were doing this, me and
Nicky were like, we want to do bigger events, we
want to host gatherings, and that's what we did. We
hosted women, you know, girls of all levels. And we
actually then went to try and build our own company
from it because Low Car Drive wasn't in our name,
it was owned by someone else, and we've just became
the faces of it, so we wanted to go be
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our own thing on your own.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, and then I.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Feel like we were almost too early for our time
because there's a lot of communities that exist now, but
people don't realize.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That we were actually like the first doing that. Yeah,
we just got sued to the ground. Oh wow yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, honestly,
I forget that happened all the time. So when you
throw it out there, I'm like Jesus, and to say
out loud that you were sued by a pretty big
organization by the time you were at what twenty six,
I was twenty five, I was twenty four. Someone was
(07:26):
intimidated by our girl then.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, it was. There are still a lot of things
that I'm not allowed to say, unfortunately, and it really
does suck, but it really helped me grow after that
to understand legalities around things. Short, power of trademarking, the
power of all these things. So long story short, if
you're lost in what we're even saying, is when me
and my best friend and partner at the time, Nikki,
(07:51):
went on to create what was then called for her,
it was called for her, for her sports. It was
a plan on for her ore. And now there's a
million brands and people that use the word for God forbid,
because we got sued for using the word for which
I can't believe is even possible, right, And so it's
crazy when that happened. We were obviously really small, we
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were barely making any money. We were really in it
for the love of it, and we got taken down
by a very large organization unfortunately. And it's just as
a bummer because I think everyone would know who it
is or we just wouldn't see it coming. And they
didn't want to just work with us, like we could
have worked together and made something amazing seven years later
right now where we are, but instead they were like, nope,
(08:37):
we want to own it. And they even said you
have to forego all your content too, where it says
it where you use it, and I said, fuckingly not
absolutely not, absolutely not, because you can't use our faces.
And that's where we put our foot down. But we
lost a lot of money and just trying to make
it go away.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I genuinely can't imagine what that felt like. It was
really like young, like at age.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Ten grand or something or more, and at the time, which.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Is a lot of money, we just had nothing in
genuine in general.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, you know, and so it was. It was tough,
but I mean it clearly just wasn't the right time,
and I'm able to do it now in different ways,
especially through.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
All you guys are just too too early. I guess
that's okay, but hey, you were already thinking that big
we were we were, That's all that matters. When do
(09:38):
you feel most underestimated and how did you prove them wrong,
like that time in your career or even recently.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I feel like a lot of people underestimate me. I
honestly feel like it's hard to talk about yourself right.
Like I as much as I'm Alio and I love
to put on a show, I really do have a
hard time talking about myself in that way, and I
often feel underestimated at all parts of my career.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
When I was younger, it was always my game.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
When I got into the actual like golf and entertainment space,
I always felt like I was underrated or underestimated because
I was just one body. I mean, even now with
creating all In, I have never been more underestimated day
to day, almost hour by hour, until creating this company.
And there's a lot of people who give you promises
(10:30):
in this path, this career path, if you're in Hollywood
or entertainment, a lot of people say they're going to
do things for you, right, and you just learn that
things don't happen unless it's signed, sealed, delivered.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You told me that. You taught me that very early on,
is don't believe anything until it's in black and white.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And I think in some ways it's a little bit
of underestimation in that way because they underestimate how big
are going to be in until you reach a level
of success that they see in their eyes. That's when
they want to help you or cling on to you, right.
And I think that's what's really hard. But that underlying
feeling is really what drives me. I know it's not
the best thing that it's always that, but I'm just
a very competitive human. Yeah yeah, And now here we
(11:05):
are we've only been live for what three months even
for all In, and.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
We're kind of in this Watchme era.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah right, and and a lot there's a lot of
golf people that are really quiet right now. And that's okay,
that's okay, Just just wait till you see what we
got planned.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, what's the truth about the golf industry that no
one wants to say out loud?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
What's the truth about the golf industry? I mean, where,
which way do you want to go?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Let's go talk about gospel. Let's go I were talking
about because I got a lot of stories. Let's talk
about just making it accessible for people. What's holding people back?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
What's something that maybe people aren't talking about that you
think we should be talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think what's not talked about is the fact that
a lot of the players on the tour don't exactly
enjoy the LPGA, and the LPGA have a difficult time
with the players. I feel like it's kind of like
a double edged sword, and I think it's really hard
to grow what women's golf is without the highest form
(12:13):
of women's golf being at its best, right, and the
highest is the Professional Women's Golf Tour, right, Like, well,
that's who we look up to, right, the Nelly Cordas
and everything. But when the organization and the players aren't
working together to make it better, I think it is
hard to have the ripple effect of everything else and
all the women's golf.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Communities and all the brands.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, and granted, there is a new commissioner, and I
have very high hopes for him. I know he comes
from a really great background, and so I really hope
that they're able to establish a better culture because I
can't tell you how many times girls have come to
me behind the scenes and said I wasn't allowed to
say that otherwise I'll be blacklisted, or I can't do
this because I'll get in trouble, or oh I'm being
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forced to do this.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But then when I when I work with the LPGA.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Too, and I hear them and they're like, God, it's
just so hard to work with the girls, And the
girls are like, well, it's so hard to work with
the tour, and I'm like, I'm like, then we got
to fix them. There needs to be like a company
reset and I think that's not talked about, but like,
who else can talk about it?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The LPG is not the players aren't so here, I
am causing trouble. But it's it's it's a reality. It's reality.
It's it's a truth.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
If someone scrolled their phone search history or chat GBT.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
History, oh my gosh, what.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Would make them laugh? And what would make them concerned?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh my gosh, that is such a wild question. That's
a fan question. Yeah, I mean my chat GBT is
so random. Literally, one second, we're like, how do you
make a kit to go potty? And then because our
kitson wouldn't go potty, and we're like, you're the cat.
We just rescued the cat. I'm like, hi, it's been
(13:58):
twenty four hours. Our cat won't go the bauth theom
when we do, so it's like that. Or I'll be
like business oriented sometimes when a hater comes at me,
I'll be like, chatty, can you just clap back for me?
Real quick?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
All right?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Cool? Copy paste. I'm like, bamb you will have a
lot of your comebacks. I feel brain dead. Yeah I will.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
How do I respond to this and make them feel
absolutely terrible about themselves? And make sure I sound extremely
educated and articulate. Yes, what is something you do to
just reset or to just bring you joy? What is
(14:39):
something that just like kind of gets you giddy?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, I do love dancing. You do love something that
I'll do and I'll do sometimes like late at night,
and you have no idea that it's happening.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I honestly think sometimes, Yeah, I haven't seen you do
it in a while because we've been so busy, but
you need to do it. Is just you'll go find
a dance that you want to learn, and then you
just go dance.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Similarly, learn it's the funniest teach yourself f Yeah, and
then you'd be like you, baby, watch me dance.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wow, that's really Leo energy.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Wat dance.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Dance.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes, I feel like now that we have a kitten,
that's something that brings me a lot of joy. He's
probably crying right now as we speak, and it's been
a couple of weeks of literal insanity. You guys found
him inside of my assistance wheel in the car axle
under like the the hollow part of the car, and
he's holding on for dear life. Thirty minutes for eighty
(15:33):
miles an hour on the far.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Side, Christina was hauling, asked, yeah, Christina.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And she was she was hauling, asked to me because
she knew she was so late. And someone heard me
owing coming out of the car. And that's how we
saw the kitty. And we cannot believe he's alive. We
kept saying over and over again, how lucky he is,
how lucky he is, And that's in the world. He
is lucky. And what is it called the cat distribution system?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Cat distribution system is very real thing. And I said
I would Actually You've always asked like, would you ever
get a cat? And I was like, if it quite
literally fell into my lap, in which it did, in
which he did. He did. Yeah, now we have a cat.
Now we have a cat. Now we have a cat.
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, so what's something you might struggle with that people
wouldn't know? Something that reminds you that you're human Because
obviously you are kind of a superhero and a powerhouse lady.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I mean a lot of things I think people don't
realize that I too go through my bouts of struggling
with confidence. I go through a lot of bouts where
I struggle with believing myself. And when you're creating something,
and I'll bring a lot of things back to the brand,
but I do it because I haven't learned this much
in a little time until doing something like this. And
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when everyone goes to sleep, the one thing you're thinking
about is your baby, and for me, it's the company.
And when I have self doubting thoughts, it's a really
tough place to be because no one can really get
you out of that hole besides you, and people are
looking to you for answers. So there's a lot of
that that people don't see, and I think people may
(19:34):
not think it, but I do fall into the parts
of me that starts comparing and I think, you know, honey,
you can attest to that and you'll snap me out
of it. And I do very Yeah, you'll snap me
out of it. And it's tough. It's tough because in
the world of social media, you are never off. It's
part of the job, and even when you want to
take a break, you're probably still thinking about it. Because
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when you think of it as work, you're always thinking
of trends, You're always thinking of what's next, more can
I do? And so even when you're trying to healthily
go through let's say, social media, it's really easy to
compare yourself when you're trying to look at what other
people are doing to give you ideas, you know, so
you have to be in a good mindset a lot
of times to.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Be able to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's so much harder, and there's so many more breakdowns
that people don't see off the camera, and there's so
much more work that I know that I'm looked at
as a very hard working person in this world, but
I don't think people really understand how hard working it
is in the background to make things look the way
they do it. As much as I try to showcase
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that stuff, which I do feel like I'm very open
and candidate, I'm just really fucking exhausted. I'm like, at
what point do I have to? Like, I don't document everything?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, you know, I think it is just a mindset shift,
you know, not comparing and trying to think about what
is going to hit for you these days, I think
always just remind yourself that your early pop you are
enough and you're enough to know genuinely. That's the first
thing I say. And I'm like, you know, why are
we starting to compare? I'm like, well, are we doing
what they're doing? Have we been around for seven years?
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Have we been doing that? No? But we're but we're
on our way. This is a funny one. What's the
pettiest reason you've ever wanted to win something or accomplish something?
I don't know. The answer is you once actually told
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me that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh god, am I gonna sound crazy after.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
The I don't call her your ex because you guys
spoke for you did date for a short period of time,
but after she broke up with you dated a man
two weeks prior, you said you wanted to become so
successful that you would be on a billboard out front
of her house or like in her fucking neighborhood. And
I said, I like that. I like that kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I like you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's not petty, that's not petty. But I think it's
kind of a petty thing to be Like, my heart, girl,
I am going to come for your bank account and
be so much more successful than you and actually be likable.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Oh my god, I forgot I ever even said that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Ago. I was on a billboard.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You were everywhere and it was for top golf in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You're really mass.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Actually at the Vegas it's like at every major city's
top golf area for a hot sex. So almost came true.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Kind of cold.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What's the failure that you still think about once in
a while that you wish you could have maybe done
something differently?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
That's a my fans are really just trying to be
real deep right now and want I mean just because
we just brought it up. But nothing I could have
changed though, Like there was no part of it. But
when you know we got sued for for her, that
is I suppose a failure just I say it. It's
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a failure simply because we had to make it end right,
We had to put it down.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
There was a lost.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Analyst, it was a dream that had to be literally
ripped from us and literally no other option. And we'd
already changed our name a couple of times, so that
was really tough. And yeah, I do think of that
often because it's like innately in me to always want
to do good right, Like that's part of me, and
it blows my mind that someone who everyone thinks is
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such a good organization could do that to people who
genuinely want good in the golf world, let alone in
the world, and it does really suck. And it's like
that forever changed my outlook of the entertainment industry, the
sports industry, the golf industry, because you really are looking
out for yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
A lot of people can say.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That they want to, they want to let's grow the game,
and all this blah blah blah whatever. No, like a
lot of people don't actually mean it. Yeah, And I
think actions speak a lout of the words where literally
silenced at that time, and so that's what made it
really hard. I think about that often, like every time
someone's like, let's work together, let's do this, and I'm like, yeah,
(24:14):
let's do it. Wait, hold on, yeah, let me make sure,
let me do it, make sure that yeah, let me
make sure this is right now.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I would definitely say that. I think anytime that organization
is even mentioned, you can't help but go.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You know, I glitch a little bit. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm definitely a way better now and absolutely or I mean,
you've come so far since then, but I could see
that being a pretty big think about all the time.
It's a pretty big one.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's okay to still think about. It's a learning lesson.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's definitely a learning lesson. Yeah, for sure. Let's get
back into golf a little bit. What is one of
your biggest tips for beginners, whether that be fundamentals, I
don't know, of course, etiquette or mindset, feel like those are
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three of the core.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh, that's a lot, I can really, I can definitely
say a lot. But my best beginner tip I would
say is one is you have to really understand the fundamentals.
I always teach beginner as g SAP, which stands for
a grip stance alignment imposture. You have to know your grip,
your stance alignment, imposture, and you have to have it right.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I don't care if you're.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
A pro, if you've never played golf before. That's a
checklist that you always have to make sure you have
before you swing, because if you're setup and your foundation
to prepare for your shot is not good, then you've
already set yourself up for failure. So you need to
make sure you're set up your grip, your posture, and
all that is in aiming towards the target is all
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good so that you have your best attempt at a
swing that will go towards the whole. So that's the
best thing I can say for beginners fundamentally. And yeah,
but then beginner beginner wise, like if we're talking like
mental or the challenges that comes with beginners is you know,
don't take no shit from anybody, especially I know it's
really easy to go to the range and be intimidated
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by other men, but it's like, it's not about them,
it's about you.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And I can promise you that all those guys on
the range that.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
May attempt to try and teach you, they all fucking suck,
So don't worry. They're dribbling the ball as well.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
What is your favorite or one of your favorite golf
memories from growing up. That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
One of my favorite golf memories growing up, I played
in the Calloway Junior World Qualifiers. The Callaway Junior World
was a really big tournament, one of the biggest ones
as a kid, they called the Junior worlds Now. The
actual big, big tournament took place in California. I was
living in Illinois, at the time, But I did the
qualifier in Arizona because what you do is as a
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player is you look at all the different fields in
different states for the qualifiers and you assess the field
to see if you can win it. Right, Like, you
can do a qualify and let's say California, they may
take more people, but the field has all the best players.
So do you want to go to that or do
you want to go to a state and qualify where
there's only maybe five players playing you don't know their names,
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but they only take one spot, So like, what are
your odds of winning?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So we went to Arizona and there was only like
six girls in the field, one of them, I'm aware.
At this time, I was nine nine nine. One of
the girls I think was Sarah Schmeltzel smelt Schmeltz Smeltzoul.
Sorry I can't say her last name, but she's on
tour right now. She was in the field. She had
just started playing golf and I'm playing. I'm pretty sure
she was there. Long story short, I won that qualifier.
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I barely scraped by. I remember thinking, like me and
my family thought we were going to crush it. And
I only won by one shot. My parents, my mom,
she has all my trophies I've ever won, and one
of them that one.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Was like this like class like golf club looking one.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And at the end I got the first place prize
of the qualifier. And it's just a qualifier, you know,
it's not even the tournament, but you got to you
got a trophy. And I went to my dad and
I told him that I dedicate this win to you.
And he started crying. And it was only like three
times I think in my life that my dad is over.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
He died and he cried. During that time.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
He was cheering up and he was like, I don't
know why I'm crying.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I mean, honey, if you walked up to me at
nine years old, being all of I don't know, tiny
I dedicated this to you, I would ball my eyes up.
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This is a good fan question too. How did the
work ethic you needed and probably still have as a
golfer impact your independent entrepreneurship. Oh it's everything everything.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean, golf is all year round. Golf takes a
lot of resilience, both mentally and physically. I know. It's
not a sport like football where you just you know,
you can get beat up for a couple hours, like
go home.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, golf is a sport.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That's what they say is between your ears, right, it's
all mental and you're you're mentally beating yourself up more
than you are physically. I mean, I think anyone who
is a professional athlete that goes into you know, the
work field, all embody really powerful traits and a lot
of it I think is resilience and it's repetition and
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they're willing to inconsistency.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
They're willing to go.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Through the most athletes can endure a lot. I mean,
there's nothing more painful than the way we practice. It
doesn't matter what your sport is. And I think that
really carries on to entrepreneurship because especially in golf, you
have to be positive for you know, the four and
a half hours of year round, and you have to
be mentally strong, and so I think in entrepreneurship you
need to have that one hundred percent of the time. Yeah,
(29:49):
like I said earlier, like if you don't believe in yourself,
it is game over for you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, there's such thing as practicing too much, Like can
you just get to a point where it's like Okay, stop, Yeah, yeah,
for sure, turn it off.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think there is a point of practicing too much,
especially if there's no intention, Like you can practice a
lot and just like hit a bunch of balls. But
if you're not practicing with intention, like focusing on your
target or for focusing on your mental game and stuff,
then yeah, it's too much of what And then also
if you're physically exhausted, it's probably a little too much.
I think there's always a little too much of anything.
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You just want to be prepared enough. Like practice is
all about preparation, and preparation gives you confidence. Yeah, and
that's why you do it right.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So you just need to do enough to.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Give you the confidence that when you are under the
gun and whatever you're doing, you trust that your process
was enough to get you there.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Which golf course haven't you played but are dying to play?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, if I could play augusta National, that would
be a girl's dream. But it's all of our dreams.
It's not many women have stepped foot on the course
and made a divot.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay, well how about this. What golf course have you
played that would is one hundred percent at the top
of everyone's bucket list who might not have access to it.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I've played all the Pebble Beach courses. I've played all
the Bandon Dunes courses. I really do. Like gosh, it's
an Evyon France. I'm forgetting, but it's really helped the
Ebyon Championship. I think it's called the Ebyon Golf Club
or whatever. It's beautiful. I've played Shinnacock and there's another
really beautiful course right over there in the Hamptons that
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I got to play, like National something I forget, but yeah,
and what's it called in Vegas Shadow Creekow. I've been
very lucky to play Shadow Creek a handful of times now.
And that's the most expensive golf course I think in
the world right now.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Really, yeah, how much does a round cost at that course?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's like fifteen hundred or something like that. And you
have to her person, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
To go play some golf. Yes, by all means.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
It is a really beautiful track.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I'm sure it is a great experience.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But I mean, I do not have that kind of
blow money.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's not yet. We don't not yet maybe, and even
if I did, I wouldn't do that or I think honestly, no,
I would not let you. I don't think I would
never let you. I'd be like, no, that's a plane
ticket to Europe, right, we're going to go, not on
a golf course. We are running out of time, my girl,
(32:35):
So let's do a couple of rapid fire ones. Okay,
first concert you ever went to in sink no way?
How old were you?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm so jealous.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I was supposed to see Britney Spears when I was
that age, but she actually canceled. Oh that concert heartbreaking? Heartbreaking. Okay,
celebrity or athlete, you would totally fangirl if you met them.
Beyonce one.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I love my gal j Loo. I literally go to
bed in a j Loo shirt and her team gave
me that shirt.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So therefore Jlo knows me. Very true, very true. I
like to think, what's your love language on the course,
trash talk or hype talk?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh I feel like hype talk for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, you're a hype talker.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I'm a hype talker.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You're a girl's girl. Yeah, you're always hyping the girl
is up all right, morning person or night owl in
this current season as a founder.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well right now, I'm both it's really not good. I
think someone asked me how many hours will sleep you?
How many hours?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I don't. I don't get much.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean, if I get like five to six, it's
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
But as of right now, it's not very much. Got it? Okay?
A favorite music genre hip hop, hip hop, R and B.
I love it early two thousands? All right? Can we
play fuck Mary Kill? Real quick to stand it off with?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Okay? All right, I'm like, who are we using right now?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
That's Mary Kill? Sorry, maybe we can't say the K word,
but just kick off the team. Just kick her off
the team, Okay. Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez and god, who is
that third woman you loved so much? She was your
phone background? Lanaana? Yeah, those are three I know, and
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it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I have to kick someone off the team.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You got to kick someone off the team. Girl, Dude,
that's crazy. I know. That's great.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Also, I don't look at at like j Lo or
Beyonce like that. Okay, I like really envy them.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
This is very much I want to be beyond you situation.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I would be like, whoa, this is whoa, it's getting weird.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You would be like, let's just sit down. And have
a great conversation, and I like what happened. Let's get
to know each other first in this hypothetical world of mine. Okay,
f Mary kick off the team.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Well, because I got to meet Lana and we actually
got to like party together and hang out make sure
a burger. Yeah, she was really cool. I met out
of Georgia up event. I remember my heart stopped and Tessa,
my right hand, was like, it's your girl, It's literally
your ship. And she follows me. So I'm only going
to kick her out because we have already met and
like we have been experienced in like we're acquaintance.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So marijuana, No, I'll kick her out. Kick her out,
so you are I'm sorry because I've had a great experience.
You're like I've had it. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And then I would this is weird. I guess I
would f j.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Lo Okay, baby, don't sound so shy. She's not here.
I mean she might watch this.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I guess that would be that. And I'd marry Beyonce
because I want to know, like what her life is like.
I just want to know how to what that feels
like to be in that greatness.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
What is a mantra? Or little thing you tell yourself
just to pick you up.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Wait, what do I tell you when you're.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Like it's gonna be a funny one.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
No. No, when you're like, you need to say your gratitude?
What do I say?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
She goes, I'm I'm cute, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm blessed,
I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Not dress. That's my gratitude.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That that's what i'd say.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Does And she is like, that's really all you want
to say. I'm like, yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Pretty much nails it. And then I'm like, okay, I'll
take care of everything else for us. I'll do all
the others. Yeah, all right, baby, you are beautiful and
you are blessed. Thank you so much for letting me
ask you so many questions. I actually learned a lot
about you today too. Did you Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Okay, good? Yeah, thank you, honey. Welcome to the party
with Tasha Allen is an Iheartwoman's sports production in partnership
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Christina Everett is our executive producer, and Jennifer Bassett is
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(36:53):
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Are you ready, honey?
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Hello Tisha Allan, Hi, honey, It's weird that you're calling
me that.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello honey, Girk.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So for those of you guys that are tuning in
just when you thought you can get rid of me,
you can't. Welcome to a bonus episode, and this time
the tables are turned. I'm the one being interviewed, and
I actually posted a little poll or a little questionnaire
on my story so that you all can ask me
some questions, and of course my fiance my honey group
will be asking the questions. So welcome to the party. Okay.
(00:38):
I really don't know where these questions are going. I'm
pretty just like free for all, and I'm a very
open book.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So I love it. I'm ready. I will say there's
a good mix of personal and golf related questions, obviously. Okay,
so let's just start off fun. Who in your life
keeps you humble and how I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Honestly, I don't think anything humbles you more than Filipino parents.
They're very ruthless. Just when you think you look good
or feel good, they'll just be very very honest yeah
with you, but but no, Honestly, my dad was really
big about that, especially when it came to playing golf. Yeah,
he actually didn't allow me to wear certain outfits growing
up because he didn't want me to look overly confident
(01:29):
like he want. I mean, he wanted me to exude
confidence through my ability and through my personality and he
but he never wanted me to look cocky or act
cocky on the course.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Does that make sense? It does a little bit. But
tell me what did a cocky kid back then look like?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Like? When you were a kid, it was like if
you had the cool belt or like the flashy gear,
flash flashy gear, flashy flashy equipment and stuff. And my
dad would be very adamant about like, no, you need
to very much play your way to the top. You
need to be your best from like your character and
and your game. And my mom is just always so humbling,
like literally, she will let me know how I, oh
(02:04):
I look.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
She's humbling so honest, so even me.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah yeah, Filipinos, Hey they humble you really really fast.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Ye, I'll never forget when I got a haircut and
she told me flat out she liked it better long
as it was freshly blown out. So I liked your hair, honey,
You think I hear. Everyone always asks you what made
you get into golf, and we know that it was
your dad at a very young age. But what's the
thing that kept you in golf all of these years? Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I mean, I think golf was something For a long time.
I knew that I was pretty decent at and because
I didn't know life without it, even when I wanted
to step away, I always found myself coming back to it.
But when I hit my so when I was in
my younger years in competing, I loved it because I
loved all the girls I got to play and travel with.
(02:57):
Then I became a rebellious teen and I hated it.
And then me and my dad would always argue because
he was my coach, and I was like, I want
nothing to do with you. I want to go to school,
I want to have a social life, I want.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
To do things fun with my friends.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And then when I got older, I started to fall
back in love with the game, and I actually fell
in love with teaching and understanding it, which is why
I am part I'm an instructor as well. And then
when I stepped out of professional golf, what I really
took out of that was how amazing. It was to
really get to know the girls and go through a
grind that no one else can take away from you,
Like no one will ever really know what it's like
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of the professional golf grind of like four women sleeping
in one hotel room and trying to go to bed.
Will the other two girls have a morning wave tea
time and we have an evening wave tea time, and
we're cheering for each other, but we're against each other.
It was a different kind of grind. But I'm still
friends with a lot of those girls now and we
have given each other a bunch of opportunities because we
have that connection from pro golf. And I think after
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it was all said and done with the professional golf
career and competing, it was really like the love for
the women's golf community and the want and I feel
like partially my calling to want to make it better.
That's always what kind of keeps me coming even when
it gets tough.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Tell me about a time when you seriously considered walking
away from golf. What happened and what pulled you back
into it.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well. I definitely wanted to quit when I was a teen,
when I felt like my parents just kept wanting to
encourage me into the game. It pulled me away from
my social life. Like, yeah, eighth grade through high school
and I just wanted to make friends and I wanted
to be a normal kid, and I never knew what
that was like. I never had a break. I was
never able to go to parties. I was never able
(04:39):
to go to sleepovers. I easy, Yeah, I was just
training NonStop. So I wanted to quit as a teen.
And then obviously I wanted to quit as a professional golfer,
which I did. I did step away, but I haven't
really shared it too much, but I did have a pretty,
i would say verbally abusive swing coach for seven years
(05:01):
and that really scarred me, and I think still scars
me when I compete because I still hear his voice
at times, and that really made me want to quit.
So when I was playing professionally and I won a
couple times on the Miniaur Circuit, I kind of felt
like when I won, it was like that's it.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I did what I wanted to do. I want to
go be a social butterfly. I find a lot more
joy in the social stuff, and ever since I transitioned
into the social stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
I've never wanted to quit. A lot of people know
that you are so big into community and it's one
of your key foundations. But what was your first community
project or like nonprofit thing that you did in golf,
whether it was when you were in college, when you
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were a pro, what was that first project you did.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
It really wasn't until I think after professional golfer, right
as I was exiting professional golf, that that really dawned
on me. I always loved bringing women together now naturally,
especially when I was playing professionally, like I'd always connect
other women to one another. But then I was a
part of this thing called Women Would Drive And anyone
even knows what I'm talking about, you're a real og fan.
(06:12):
That was actually how I built my platform. There was
a page called Golf Babes. It transitioned into woman Would Drive.
We wanted to make something empowering because we didn't want
to be, you know, sexualized. I ended up being one
of the leaders between myself and one of my good friends, Nicki,
and that was how we met. It was just a
community that was built on Instagram. It was a way
to find other women. It was like twenty sixteen, oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, And so as we were doing this, me and
Nicky were like, we want to do bigger events, we
want to host gatherings, and that's what we did. We
hosted women, you know, girls of all levels. And we
actually then went to try and build our own company
from it because Low Car Drive wasn't in our name,
it was owned by someone else, and we've just became
the faces of it, so we wanted to go be
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our own thing on your own.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, and then I.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Feel like we were almost too early for our time
because there's a lot of communities that exist now, but
people don't realize.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That we were actually like the first doing that. Yeah,
we just got sued to the ground. Oh wow yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, honestly,
I forget that happened all the time. So when you
throw it out there, I'm like Jesus, and to say
out loud that you were sued by a pretty big
organization by the time you were at what twenty six,
I was twenty five, I was twenty four. Someone was
(07:26):
intimidated by our girl then.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, it was. There are still a lot of things
that I'm not allowed to say, unfortunately, and it really
does suck, but it really helped me grow after that
to understand legalities around things. Short, power of trademarking, the
power of all these things. So long story short, if
you're lost in what we're even saying, is when me
and my best friend and partner at the time, Nikki,
(07:51):
went on to create what was then called for her,
it was called for her, for her sports. It was
a plan on for her ore. And now there's a
million brands and people that use the word for God forbid,
because we got sued for using the word for which
I can't believe is even possible, right, And so it's
crazy when that happened. We were obviously really small, we
(08:15):
were barely making any money. We were really in it
for the love of it, and we got taken down
by a very large organization unfortunately. And it's just as
a bummer because I think everyone would know who it
is or we just wouldn't see it coming. And they
didn't want to just work with us, like we could
have worked together and made something amazing seven years later
right now where we are, but instead they were like, nope,
(08:37):
we want to own it. And they even said you
have to forego all your content too, where it says
it where you use it, and I said, fuckingly not
absolutely not, absolutely not, because you can't use our faces.
And that's where we put our foot down. But we
lost a lot of money and just trying to make
it go away.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I genuinely can't imagine what that felt like. It was
really like young, like at age.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Ten grand or something or more, and at the time, which.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Is a lot of money, we just had nothing in
genuine in general.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, you know, and so it was. It was tough,
but I mean it clearly just wasn't the right time,
and I'm able to do it now in different ways,
especially through.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
All you guys are just too too early. I guess
that's okay, but hey, you were already thinking that big
we were we were, That's all that matters. When do
(09:38):
you feel most underestimated and how did you prove them wrong,
like that time in your career or even recently.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I feel like a lot of people underestimate me. I
honestly feel like it's hard to talk about yourself right.
Like I as much as I'm Alio and I love
to put on a show, I really do have a
hard time talking about myself in that way, and I
often feel underestimated at all parts of my career.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
When I was younger, it was always my game.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
When I got into the actual like golf and entertainment space,
I always felt like I was underrated or underestimated because
I was just one body. I mean, even now with
creating all In, I have never been more underestimated day
to day, almost hour by hour, until creating this company.
And there's a lot of people who give you promises
(10:30):
in this path, this career path, if you're in Hollywood
or entertainment, a lot of people say they're going to
do things for you, right, and you just learn that
things don't happen unless it's signed, sealed, delivered.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You told me that. You taught me that very early on,
is don't believe anything until it's in black and white.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And I think in some ways it's a little bit
of underestimation in that way because they underestimate how big
are going to be in until you reach a level
of success that they see in their eyes. That's when
they want to help you or cling on to you, right.
And I think that's what's really hard. But that underlying
feeling is really what drives me. I know it's not
the best thing that it's always that, but I'm just
a very competitive human. Yeah yeah, And now here we
(11:05):
are we've only been live for what three months even
for all In, and.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
We're kind of in this Watchme era.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah right, and and a lot there's a lot of
golf people that are really quiet right now. And that's okay,
that's okay, Just just wait till you see what we
got planned.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, what's the truth about the golf industry that no
one wants to say out loud?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
What's the truth about the golf industry? I mean, where,
which way do you want to go?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Let's go talk about gospel. Let's go I were talking
about because I got a lot of stories. Let's talk
about just making it accessible for people. What's holding people back?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
What's something that maybe people aren't talking about that you
think we should be talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think what's not talked about is the fact that
a lot of the players on the tour don't exactly
enjoy the LPGA, and the LPGA have a difficult time
with the players. I feel like it's kind of like
a double edged sword, and I think it's really hard
to grow what women's golf is without the highest form
(12:13):
of women's golf being at its best, right, and the
highest is the Professional Women's Golf Tour, right, Like, well,
that's who we look up to, right, the Nelly Cordas
and everything. But when the organization and the players aren't
working together to make it better, I think it is
hard to have the ripple effect of everything else and
all the women's golf.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Communities and all the brands.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, and granted, there is a new commissioner, and I
have very high hopes for him. I know he comes
from a really great background, and so I really hope
that they're able to establish a better culture because I
can't tell you how many times girls have come to
me behind the scenes and said I wasn't allowed to
say that otherwise I'll be blacklisted, or I can't do
this because I'll get in trouble, or oh I'm being
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forced to do this.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
But then when I when I work with the LPGA.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Too, and I hear them and they're like, God, it's
just so hard to work with the girls, And the
girls are like, well, it's so hard to work with
the tour, and I'm like, I'm like, then we got
to fix them. There needs to be like a company
reset and I think that's not talked about, but like,
who else can talk about it?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The LPG is not the players aren't so here, I
am causing trouble. But it's it's it's a reality. It's reality.
It's it's a truth.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
If someone scrolled their phone search history or chat GBT.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
History, oh my gosh, what.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Would make them laugh? And what would make them concerned?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh my gosh, that is such a wild question. That's
a fan question. Yeah, I mean my chat GBT is
so random. Literally, one second, we're like, how do you
make a kit to go potty? And then because our
kitson wouldn't go potty, and we're like, you're the cat.
We just rescued the cat. I'm like, hi, it's been
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twenty four hours. Our cat won't go the bauth theom
when we do, so it's like that. Or I'll be
like business oriented sometimes when a hater comes at me,
I'll be like, chatty, can you just clap back for me?
Real quick?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
All right?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Cool? Copy paste. I'm like, bamb you will have a
lot of your comebacks. I feel brain dead. Yeah I will.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
How do I respond to this and make them feel
absolutely terrible about themselves? And make sure I sound extremely
educated and articulate. Yes, what is something you do to
just reset or to just bring you joy? What is
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something that just like kind of gets you giddy?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, I do love dancing. You do love something that
I'll do and I'll do sometimes like late at night,
and you have no idea that it's happening.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I honestly think sometimes, Yeah, I haven't seen you do
it in a while because we've been so busy, but
you need to do it. Is just you'll go find
a dance that you want to learn, and then you
just go dance.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Similarly, learn it's the funniest teach yourself f Yeah, and
then you'd be like you, baby, watch me dance.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Wow, that's really Leo energy.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Wat dance.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Dance.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes, I feel like now that we have a kitten,
that's something that brings me a lot of joy. He's
probably crying right now as we speak, and it's been
a couple of weeks of literal insanity. You guys found
him inside of my assistance wheel in the car axle
under like the the hollow part of the car, and
he's holding on for dear life. Thirty minutes for eighty
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miles an hour on the far.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Side, Christina was hauling, asked, yeah, Christina.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And she was she was hauling, asked to me because
she knew she was so late. And someone heard me
owing coming out of the car. And that's how we
saw the kitty. And we cannot believe he's alive. We
kept saying over and over again, how lucky he is,
how lucky he is, And that's in the world. He
is lucky. And what is it called the cat distribution system?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Cat distribution system is very real thing. And I said
I would Actually You've always asked like, would you ever
get a cat? And I was like, if it quite
literally fell into my lap, in which it did, in
which he did. He did. Yeah, now we have a cat.
Now we have a cat. Now we have a cat.
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, so what's something you might struggle with that people
wouldn't know? Something that reminds you that you're human Because
obviously you are kind of a superhero and a powerhouse lady.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I mean a lot of things I think people don't
realize that I too go through my bouts of struggling
with confidence. I go through a lot of bouts where
I struggle with believing myself. And when you're creating something,
and I'll bring a lot of things back to the brand,
but I do it because I haven't learned this much
in a little time until doing something like this. And
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when everyone goes to sleep, the one thing you're thinking
about is your baby, and for me, it's the company.
And when I have self doubting thoughts, it's a really
tough place to be because no one can really get
you out of that hole besides you, and people are
looking to you for answers. So there's a lot of
that that people don't see, and I think people may
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not think it, but I do fall into the parts
of me that starts comparing and I think, you know, honey,
you can attest to that and you'll snap me out
of it. And I do very Yeah, you'll snap me
out of it. And it's tough. It's tough because in
the world of social media, you are never off. It's
part of the job, and even when you want to
take a break, you're probably still thinking about it. Because
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when you think of it as work, you're always thinking
of trends, You're always thinking of what's next, more can
I do? And so even when you're trying to healthily
go through let's say, social media, it's really easy to
compare yourself when you're trying to look at what other
people are doing to give you ideas, you know, so
you have to be in a good mindset a lot
of times to.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Be able to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's so much harder, and there's so many more breakdowns
that people don't see off the camera, and there's so
much more work that I know that I'm looked at
as a very hard working person in this world, but
I don't think people really understand how hard working it
is in the background to make things look the way
they do it. As much as I try to showcase
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that stuff, which I do feel like I'm very open
and candidate, I'm just really fucking exhausted. I'm like, at
what point do I have to? Like, I don't document everything?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, you know, I think it is just a mindset shift,
you know, not comparing and trying to think about what
is going to hit for you these days, I think
always just remind yourself that your early pop you are
enough and you're enough to know genuinely. That's the first
thing I say. And I'm like, you know, why are
we starting to compare? I'm like, well, are we doing
what they're doing? Have we been around for seven years?
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Have we been doing that? No? But we're but we're
on our way. This is a funny one. What's the
pettiest reason you've ever wanted to win something or accomplish something?
I don't know. The answer is you once actually told
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me that.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh god, am I gonna sound crazy after.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
The I don't call her your ex because you guys
spoke for you did date for a short period of time,
but after she broke up with you dated a man
two weeks prior, you said you wanted to become so
successful that you would be on a billboard out front
of her house or like in her fucking neighborhood. And
I said, I like that. I like that kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I like you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's not petty, that's not petty. But I think it's
kind of a petty thing to be Like, my heart, girl,
I am going to come for your bank account and
be so much more successful than you and actually be likable.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Oh my god, I forgot I ever even said that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Ago. I was on a billboard.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
You were everywhere and it was for top golf in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
You're really mass.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Actually at the Vegas it's like at every major city's
top golf area for a hot sex. So almost came true.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Kind of cold.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
What's the failure that you still think about once in
a while that you wish you could have maybe done
something differently?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
That's a my fans are really just trying to be
real deep right now and want I mean just because
we just brought it up. But nothing I could have
changed though, Like there was no part of it. But
when you know we got sued for for her, that
is I suppose a failure just I say it. It's
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a failure simply because we had to make it end right,
We had to put it down.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
There was a lost.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Analyst, it was a dream that had to be literally
ripped from us and literally no other option. And we'd
already changed our name a couple of times, so that
was really tough. And yeah, I do think of that
often because it's like innately in me to always want
to do good right, Like that's part of me, and
it blows my mind that someone who everyone thinks is
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such a good organization could do that to people who
genuinely want good in the golf world, let alone in
the world, and it does really suck. And it's like
that forever changed my outlook of the entertainment industry, the
sports industry, the golf industry, because you really are looking
out for yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
A lot of people can say.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That they want to, they want to let's grow the game,
and all this blah blah blah whatever. No, like a
lot of people don't actually mean it. Yeah, And I
think actions speak a lout of the words where literally
silenced at that time, and so that's what made it
really hard. I think about that often, like every time
someone's like, let's work together, let's do this, and I'm like, yeah,
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let's do it. Wait, hold on, yeah, let me make sure,
let me do it, make sure that yeah, let me
make sure this is right now.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I would definitely say that. I think anytime that organization
is even mentioned, you can't help but go.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
You know, I glitch a little bit. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm definitely a way better now and absolutely or I mean,
you've come so far since then, but I could see
that being a pretty big think about all the time.
It's a pretty big one.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's okay to still think about. It's a learning lesson.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's definitely a learning lesson. Yeah, for sure. Let's get
back into golf a little bit. What is one of
your biggest tips for beginners, whether that be fundamentals, I
don't know, of course, etiquette or mindset, feel like those are
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three of the core.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Oh, that's a lot, I can really, I can definitely
say a lot. But my best beginner tip I would
say is one is you have to really understand the fundamentals.
I always teach beginner as g SAP, which stands for
a grip stance alignment imposture. You have to know your grip,
your stance alignment, imposture, and you have to have it right.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I don't care if you're.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
A pro, if you've never played golf before. That's a
checklist that you always have to make sure you have
before you swing, because if you're setup and your foundation
to prepare for your shot is not good, then you've
already set yourself up for failure. So you need to
make sure you're set up your grip, your posture, and
all that is in aiming towards the target is all
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good so that you have your best attempt at a
swing that will go towards the whole. So that's the
best thing I can say for beginners fundamentally. And yeah,
but then beginner beginner wise, like if we're talking like
mental or the challenges that comes with beginners is you know,
don't take no shit from anybody, especially I know it's
really easy to go to the range and be intimidated
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by other men, but it's like, it's not about them,
it's about you.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And I can promise you that all those guys on
the range that.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
May attempt to try and teach you, they all fucking suck,
So don't worry. They're dribbling the ball as well.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
What is your favorite or one of your favorite golf
memories from growing up. That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
One of my favorite golf memories growing up, I played
in the Calloway Junior World Qualifiers. The Callaway Junior World
was a really big tournament, one of the biggest ones
as a kid, they called the Junior worlds Now. The
actual big, big tournament took place in California. I was
living in Illinois, at the time, But I did the
qualifier in Arizona because what you do is as a
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player is you look at all the different fields in
different states for the qualifiers and you assess the field
to see if you can win it. Right, Like, you
can do a qualify and let's say California, they may
take more people, but the field has all the best players.
So do you want to go to that or do
you want to go to a state and qualify where
there's only maybe five players playing you don't know their names,
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but they only take one spot, So like, what are
your odds of winning?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
So we went to Arizona and there was only like
six girls in the field, one of them, I'm aware.
At this time, I was nine nine nine. One of
the girls I think was Sarah Schmeltzel smelt Schmeltz Smeltzoul.
Sorry I can't say her last name, but she's on
tour right now. She was in the field. She had
just started playing golf and I'm playing. I'm pretty sure
she was there. Long story short, I won that qualifier.
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I barely scraped by. I remember thinking, like me and
my family thought we were going to crush it. And
I only won by one shot. My parents, my mom,
she has all my trophies I've ever won, and one
of them that one.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Was like this like class like golf club looking one.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
And at the end I got the first place prize
of the qualifier. And it's just a qualifier, you know,
it's not even the tournament, but you got to you
got a trophy. And I went to my dad and
I told him that I dedicate this win to you.
And he started crying. And it was only like three
times I think in my life that my dad is over.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
He died and he cried. During that time.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
He was cheering up and he was like, I don't
know why I'm crying.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I mean, honey, if you walked up to me at
nine years old, being all of I don't know, tiny
I dedicated this to you, I would ball my eyes up.
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This is a good fan question too. How did the
work ethic you needed and probably still have as a
golfer impact your independent entrepreneurship. Oh it's everything everything.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I mean, golf is all year round. Golf takes a
lot of resilience, both mentally and physically. I know. It's
not a sport like football where you just you know,
you can get beat up for a couple hours, like
go home.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, golf is a sport.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That's what they say is between your ears, right, it's
all mental and you're you're mentally beating yourself up more
than you are physically. I mean, I think anyone who
is a professional athlete that goes into you know, the
work field, all embody really powerful traits and a lot
of it I think is resilience and it's repetition and
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they're willing to inconsistency.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
They're willing to go.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Through the most athletes can endure a lot. I mean,
there's nothing more painful than the way we practice. It
doesn't matter what your sport is. And I think that
really carries on to entrepreneurship because especially in golf, you
have to be positive for you know, the four and
a half hours of year round, and you have to
be mentally strong, and so I think in entrepreneurship you
need to have that one hundred percent of the time. Yeah,
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like I said earlier, like if you don't believe in yourself,
it is game over for you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, there's such thing as practicing too much, Like can
you just get to a point where it's like Okay, stop, Yeah, yeah,
for sure, turn it off.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think there is a point of practicing too much,
especially if there's no intention, Like you can practice a
lot and just like hit a bunch of balls. But
if you're not practicing with intention, like focusing on your
target or for focusing on your mental game and stuff,
then yeah, it's too much of what And then also
if you're physically exhausted, it's probably a little too much.
I think there's always a little too much of anything.
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You just want to be prepared enough. Like practice is
all about preparation, and preparation gives you confidence. Yeah, and
that's why you do it right.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So you just need to do enough to.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Give you the confidence that when you are under the
gun and whatever you're doing, you trust that your process
was enough to get you there.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Which golf course haven't you played but are dying to play?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I mean, if I could play augusta National, that would
be a girl's dream. But it's all of our dreams.
It's not many women have stepped foot on the course
and made a divot.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Okay, well how about this. What golf course have you
played that would is one hundred percent at the top
of everyone's bucket list who might not have access to it.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I've played all the Pebble Beach courses. I've played all
the Bandon Dunes courses. I really do. Like gosh, it's
an Evyon France. I'm forgetting, but it's really helped the
Ebyon Championship. I think it's called the Ebyon Golf Club
or whatever. It's beautiful. I've played Shinnacock and there's another
really beautiful course right over there in the Hamptons that
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I got to play, like National something I forget, but yeah,
and what's it called in Vegas Shadow Creekow. I've been
very lucky to play Shadow Creek a handful of times now.
And that's the most expensive golf course I think in
the world right now.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Really, yeah, how much does a round cost at that course?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's like fifteen hundred or something like that. And you
have to her person, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
To go play some golf. Yes, by all means.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
It is a really beautiful track.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I'm sure it is a great experience.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
But I mean, I do not have that kind of
blow money.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's not yet. We don't not yet maybe, and even
if I did, I wouldn't do that or I think honestly, no,
I would not let you. I don't think I would
never let you. I'd be like, no, that's a plane
ticket to Europe, right, we're going to go, not on
a golf course. We are running out of time, my girl,
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So let's do a couple of rapid fire ones. Okay,
first concert you ever went to in sink no way?
How old were you?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm so jealous.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I was supposed to see Britney Spears when I was
that age, but she actually canceled. Oh that concert heartbreaking? Heartbreaking. Okay,
celebrity or athlete, you would totally fangirl if you met them.
Beyonce one.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I love my gal j Loo. I literally go to
bed in a j Loo shirt and her team gave
me that shirt.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
So therefore Jlo knows me. Very true, very true. I
like to think, what's your love language on the course,
trash talk or hype talk?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh I feel like hype talk for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, you're a hype talker.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I'm a hype talker.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
You're a girl's girl. Yeah, you're always hyping the girl
is up all right, morning person or night owl in
this current season as a founder.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well right now, I'm both it's really not good. I
think someone asked me how many hours will sleep you?
How many hours?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I don't. I don't get much.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I mean, if I get like five to six, it's
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
But as of right now, it's not very much. Got it? Okay?
A favorite music genre hip hop, hip hop, R and B.
I love it early two thousands? All right? Can we
play fuck Mary Kill? Real quick to stand it off with?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Okay? All right, I'm like, who are we using right now?
Speaker 1 (33:51):
That's Mary Kill? Sorry, maybe we can't say the K word,
but just kick off the team. Just kick her off
the team, Okay. Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez and god, who is
that third woman you loved so much? She was your
phone background? Lanaana? Yeah, those are three I know, and
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it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
I have to kick someone off the team.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
You got to kick someone off the team. Girl, Dude,
that's crazy. I know. That's great.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Also, I don't look at at like j Lo or
Beyonce like that. Okay, I like really envy them.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
This is very much I want to be beyond you situation.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I would be like, whoa, this is whoa, it's getting weird.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You would be like, let's just sit down. And have
a great conversation, and I like what happened. Let's get
to know each other first in this hypothetical world of mine. Okay,
f Mary kick off the team.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Well, because I got to meet Lana and we actually
got to like party together and hang out make sure
a burger. Yeah, she was really cool. I met out
of Georgia up event. I remember my heart stopped and Tessa,
my right hand, was like, it's your girl, It's literally
your ship. And she follows me. So I'm only going
to kick her out because we have already met and
like we have been experienced in like we're acquaintance.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
So marijuana, No, I'll kick her out. Kick her out,
so you are I'm sorry because I've had a great experience.
You're like I've had it. I'm done.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
And then I would this is weird. I guess I
would f j.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Lo Okay, baby, don't sound so shy. She's not here.
I mean she might watch this.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I guess that would be that. And I'd marry Beyonce
because I want to know, like what her life is like.
I just want to know how to what that feels
like to be in that greatness.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
What is a mantra? Or little thing you tell yourself
just to pick you up.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Wait, what do I tell you when you're.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Like it's gonna be a funny one.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
No. No, when you're like, you need to say your gratitude?
What do I say?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
She goes, I'm I'm cute, I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm blessed,
I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Not dress. That's my gratitude.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That that's what i'd say.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Does And she is like, that's really all you want
to say. I'm like, yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Pretty much nails it. And then I'm like, okay, I'll
take care of everything else for us. I'll do all
the others. Yeah, all right, baby, you are beautiful and
you are blessed. Thank you so much for letting me
ask you so many questions. I actually learned a lot
about you today too. Did you Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Okay, good? Yeah, thank you, honey. Welcome to the party
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