October 17, 2025 • 27 mins
Tamra, Dolores and Wells are sitting down with Bergie Bergersen, aka Bergalicious, to talk about his game-changing move in Season 2. He tells us what it was like to enter the castle at just 23-years-old, fresh off of Love Island. Would he play the game again? Would he want to rejoin as a Traitor?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, everyone, welcome back to by order of the
faithfuls joining us on the show, the One, the Only
Burglicious Burgie. How are you, Buddy good?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How are you guys good?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Thanks for coming on. We're so excited.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I was just listening to you guys' last episodes because
it's like, oh my gosh, the nostalgia of all this,
because camer are you and I were filming exactly two
months ago right now?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Oh my goodness, are you still a faithful I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Still faithful or I'm a murderers faithful, so I guess
I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, right now, I gotta ask Bury, did they ask
you to come back for the most recent season.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I never got to come back.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh yeah, I would go like every season if they
let me.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Me too, I feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, but like, could you ever be a trader? Do
you think I like.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
To say no, just in case I ever do get
asked to go back, because then if I like, people
would be like, oh, he's always said no, you could
never pull it off, So I would like to keep
that going.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Uh, that's a yes, Well, Bergie, were bringing you in
on the episode of which Tamra gets murdered and so
I guess I just want to ask from your perspective
when you realized who wasn't coming in that day to breakfast,
what you were feeling, what the the rest of the
cast was feeling, and if you thought it was a
(01:22):
good murder from the trader's standpoint, Hey, no.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Oh gosh, well I do think it was a good
murder because everyone was like, why the heck would they
murder Tamra? That doesn't make any sense, Like nobody, like
she wasn't on anybody's radar.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You were sick like.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The first like whole first episode, so like you weren't
on anybody's radar either, So it makes sense that you
would be a good first murder because nobody was thinking
about Tamra and you probably were never going to.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Get banished for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
But the thing that happened was Dan and I were
in the library and he's like, he said, it's so
like cringe worthy. He's like, I really don't know what's
going on since they murdered Tamra.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was like that that was like a red.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So bad at that he routed himself out.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Well, you know, Bergie, I don't know if you actually
I don't know if you do know this.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
The night before I got murdered.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
You know how there's a bell that rings at eleven
o'clock and you're all done filming. While I was in
the kitchen with Dan, and I said, and this is
where everyone's going.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
He's so quiet, he's not talking.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
He's probably da So I said, listen, I've been sick
and pretty quiet.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Not like me.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You've been very very quiet.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I said, I feel like we need to get more vocal.
Let's stick together.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And I had a suspicion he was a trader.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
I just had a suspicion, And I said.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Do you trust me?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Do you trust me? Yes?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Okay, we're going to stick together. And I'm going to
tell you what about I hear? And I figured if
I had him on my side and a trader got murdered,
they bring me in.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So the next morning I got murdered.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you were pissed at him.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I was pissed.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I thought for sure he did this to me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, and then you found out later it was at
like some convention or something.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
I was doing a live show in San Francisco with
my podcast, and I got the news right before I
went on stage, I'm like, God, damn it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Really Edra want you out?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I can answer that because we John Peter were like
really thinking it was a housewife, especially since a housewife
haven't got murdered. So we started applying that pressure. And
then right after that, Phaedra murdered camera and try to
get us off the set. But that made John and
Peter go harder at Phaedra because they're like, well, we
mentioned that to Phaedria and now she's murdered Tamra. Now
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we really think it's Phedra.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Well, it only.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Made me think after I watched it, I'm like, huh,
so I'm the out of all the housewives, she likes
me the least.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
That's where she murdered me.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't know why it was that personal.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think it's because people.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Some people were still thinking Cheray could have been it
because they were like, Chara is so like oblivious to
everything going on right now.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, so she protected Sharak.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It was so quiet, Yeah, and maybe she thought Charay
would never betray her, but like maybe she thought you
might betray Pedra.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Well, I had a conversation with Phedra and it didn't
make air but I had a little bit of suspicion.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I said to her, I said, Pedra, you.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Never talk about the game.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
You're always praying for somebody, You're always like giving people
compliments and making jokes, but you never ever talk about
the game.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yep, Oh you got to see. That's it.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Then off with my head.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yep, big mistake.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I know you're like, damned if you do, and damned
if you don't. Like how much do you talk? How
much should you not talk? Should you pinpoint somebody? It's
it's a tough game.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, I guess say a lot and say nothing at all.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know who's really good at that is Cet.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Cet could say a lot and say nothing at all,
and I think that's what helped him get to the end.
He would say a lot and nothing really made sense.
Same with Sandra. Both of them were really good at
like saying a lot of things, but like never pointing
the finger at anybody.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Bergiet, I thought Sandra because of her military background, and
at one point she's got all these rocks out and
she's doing all these kind of like like war plans
that she I don't remember picking almost.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I guess she voted for Dan, but I didn't. She
didn't really pick a lot of traders, right.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, she never did really anything in the whole game.
Like I remember like having trying to get her like
to join the Peter pals almost like come on, help
us vote these people out, like we really think they're traders,
and she just kind of like took a side step
like she wasn't going to help us, but she wasn't
going to be against us, and then she ended up
being against us later on when you know, she started
getting worried about the numbers and stuff, and then she realized
(05:48):
she had more numbers, but it felt like she wasn't
she was just trying to get to the end more
so than getting rid of traders.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I feel like we should talk about the plan. Was
it Peter's plan?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It was so you know, like when they have like
before the challenge, like there's we stopped filming for a
little bit. It was Janelle, Peter, myself and Chirchelle coming
up with the plan to you know, one of us
get the shield. But then we faked that we someone
else got the shield.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That was so good, but Peter got to look credit.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Did he did?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But he also went and told people because that was
not part of the plan. The plan was just a
keep it secret. So Janelle's actually kind of like if
you go back. I think you guys talked about that
on Talking Traders too. Like Janelle's like, Peter, what the
hell are you doing? Because poverty almost poverty flewed it together.
If he put two and she was in the.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Tour it, She's like, this don't feel right. What if
he did it on purpose?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
And it was just me, like I was gunning for
Dan the rest of the night. They didn't show a
lot of it, but like I was literally following Dan
around the castle say I'm gonna put your name on
my chalkboard. I'm gonna put my name on your chalkboard.
They showed me saying it once, but I probably said
it like eight or nine times in like four different rooms.
I was just falling around the castle and my harassing
him the whole night. So then he got to the
traders turn and he's like, we got to murder Bertie.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Wait, Bertie, don't you think were you trying to get
murdered or you were just trying to go home? What
was that all about the trader that you're gonna put
his name down?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I was. I was just so ad him.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I was kind of pissed that he got Janell out
because I was like, and he hadn't been helping us
at all, because I actually thought Poverty was more of
a trader than Dan was at this point.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
And this was because of the like the whole funeral thing,
you know how aking Sue, MJ, and Poverty all went
in a coffin. And I was thinking from a production
point of view, like as I was playing the game,
I was like, if I was at home watching this
right now, I would want one of the traders to
be pretending to be a faithful because it would make
great television. So I was like, one of those three
have to be a trader ack and Sue died, so
(07:45):
I'm like, okay, now I have a fifty to fifty shot.
I definitely don't think it's MJ. So I was like,
I was gunning for Poverty too, you were.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think she was a better trader than Dan. She
was a good trader. She was smart in the game,
very smart.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
What they should have done, like there would be like
less risk with this, is they murder Peter because Peter
told him he had the shield and if they went
with that, like if he comes back to breakfast the
next morning, they could have been like, oh, you told
us you had the shield, like we wouldn't have murdered you.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And like if he didn't, if they did murder him.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He's gone like that that would have been a better
gamble than murdering me in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, you're right, Peter didn't tell you guys that he
was going to go kind of like leak this information
to who he thought was a trader. So coming into
the to the next day, did you know that he
(08:40):
had done that? And did you know that potentially you
could have been murdered?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
So, uh, when I got back from the challenge, they
wanted me to go do like my Master interviews on
a couch and talk about how I won the shield
during the Bird challenge. And then I remember getting out
of that and I had to go straight to Round
the Table. I didn't get any time to talk to anybody.
I'm like, what the hell is going going on? Like
I just won the shield and I just went straight
to roundtable after the challenge, So I didn't get any
time to talk to anybody before the challenge and then
(09:07):
or before the roundtable and after the roundtable. You can
see this in the the episode two. We're outside, it's Kevin, John, Peter,
and I. And then he tells John, Kevin and I
that he was telling CT Poverty and Dan that he
had the shield because we were thinking.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Like John was going to go home.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We're like John, We're sorry, like you're probably done for
And then Peter goes, well, I actually told Dan, Parverty
and STT that I had the shield.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Oh okay, but you know they could have they just
picked the r They could have picked anybody, but you Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well the other thing is too we were playing a
pressure saying like the traders were all inside, so they
they felt like they had to murder someone that was
outside because oh okay, because like we were telling everybody,
like all the traders were inside, like they're gonna have
to murder someone outside if they want a chance to
prove like one of the traders was outside. And they
(10:02):
ended up doing it in a backfire. So then even
doubled it that all the traders were inside the castle
for that third challenge.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Ah, that worked out.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Well, you really came out of your your you're pretty
quiet most of the time.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
The other thing is I just got done filming The
Love Island for two months and I had never been
on a television and then you know, I had a
week to prepare to go to Scotland. So I'm like
this twenty three year old kid don't know anybody, and
all these reality stars are like all friends already, and
I'm like, I am at such a disadvantage, like I
don't know anybody.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Sometimes you're better off.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think I was better off. Nobody knew what I
was gonna do.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Yeah, we really came out of your shyness or whatever
you want to call it when the graveyard challenge came
and you had those beams of light, like you knew
the pattern, Like how do I wouldn't even I would
think that pilot Pete would know the patterns and all
that stuff, But you had it all nailed down.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah. No.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And the funny thing is, I think I could, like
if I was to step on that graveyard right now,
I'd still remember the pattern that they were going to do,
because that makes any sense.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Like I tell you a lot of video games or something,
that's really it.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I played a lot of video games playing that growing up,
so I was just like pretty good at it just
because of like the patterns and stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Married that you were the leader of that episode.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
I have to say though, in the beginning, yes, you
were the leader. And in the beginning, when was it
who came up to you and said, I think you're
a trader? Ack and Sue, wasn't it ack?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And suit? Yeah, your face was purple. I felt so bad.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
For you because she was going in so hard on
you and you were just not prepared for it.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You were just like why and so nervous.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I was like dying, Like I would have been nervous
whether we were playing traders or not. Like this I
just met, is grilling me on something that I have
no idea how to defend myself, Like, I'm looking for
words to defend myself. I'm like, we just got out
of the round table. I don't know what else to say.
Besides I'm a Faithful's.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
So nice camera, I feel, yeah nice? Like the housewives
will kill someone like that.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I know you talked a little bit about how you
were on Love Island and you only had a little
bit of time to prepare for Scotland. You started your
reality TV on Love Island, right, Yes, I did what
pushed you to audition for that particular show.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
For whatever reason, I thought I was going to find
my wife on the show, which is a really dumb
way to go into it, but I think I did so.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Ah, yeah, you're still with Taylor, right, I'm still with Taylor.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh congratulations. That's a cute love story.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I don't know if you guys know this, but I
have been watching Burgie on TV longer than anybody because
my wife was hosting that season and I had to
go to Fiji and I would sit there in her
dressing room. She had like monitors to watch the show
so she can kind of and she'd be like, there's
(13:00):
this guy Burgie that like is such a sweetheart, and
we're all for him.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's so cute.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I had no idea your wife hosted that show.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, for a couple of seasons and then and then
bailed out. But uh yeah, so I got to I
got to know about Burgie like kind of before the
entire world did, because it was shot like a little
bit of a delay.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, is he consistently nice like this? I think
he is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He was like, okay, so in Love Island, he was
the fan favorite for sure like everyone loved him, and
then it was funny, do you just have this this
way about you of everyone just falls in love with you?
Because then it happens again on Traders where everyone's just like,
I'm so so sweet, which is why Burgie cute. I
(13:47):
desperately want you to go back on the show, but
I want to see if you can be sinister and
evil and be a trader.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I I personally think I played the best faithful game
I could have played already, so it's like I have
nothing else to show as a faithful So I think
being a Trader, we'll see how if I can last
more than two episodes. I think that'd be the challenge
to you make it past two episodes. If I do,
that is a win in my book. I don't care
what anybody else says, like Bertie was the worst Trader
I ever. If I made it two episodes, I did
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
What was more nerve wracking? Traders or love Violin?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Oh love Island? Something out there and just it was?
It was bad and then I got rejected. I got
eliminated the first day, and then I came back like
day two, and I was even more nervous because I
already been eliminated. I was just like, I'm gonna be
the first contestant ever to be eliminated twice.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
First in row.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
You didn't have your guardian angel on Love Island, Miss
Phaedra Parks.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Bur Delicious, she named burglicious.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
She loved you.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
She really and still does. Do you guys still keep
in touch? And do you keep in touch with all
the other people?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I keep in touch more with Chrochelle and Peter and Janelle.
Those are probably my top three phedra We were we
next periodically? I would say, like every three months, we
might start texting each other, but it's not you know,
like a consistent like monthly check in. But I would say,
like every three months, we'll check in with one another.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Looking back on your experience of Traders, would would you
change anything about your gameplay if you went on? If
you went on again?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, I definitely screwed up, like joining the Peter Palace,
Like that's something I regret. But what I regretted the
Peter Palace, what I regret even more is that last
night they did that like sacrifice ceremony and I they
cut it out, but I said, like, I'll take I'll
take the blow guys like you guys, go ahead and
get your torches light lit.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And I wish I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And then after that, Yoursel's like, go talk to Phager,
tell her you really want to be here, And I
was like, I don't want to get a pity boat
to stay here, like that was kind of my mindset.
But I wish I took that pity boat because I
could definitely use the money.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Ah well, speaking of winning money on TV, I mean,
you've done pretty well on the two that I've seen
you on. Any interested in doing other shows like Survivor
or Big Brother or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I definitely applied, but I applied to Survivor Big Brother
but never heard back.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So I'm just in PT school for the time.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, it's like a fan favorite.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's our Burger Delicious. We'll watch for him.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, Dina Katz, where are you? Let's cast him things.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm down for it.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We'll get you on there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Well, good luck in PT school. That's that's a really
hard thing.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
It is.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's it's definitely like one of the hardest things I've
ever done is doctor to Physical therapist school.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, good for you.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
You're going to do it, and we're very proud of
you and we think you're awesome big fans.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, I'm a big fan of you guys.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Do Delicious fan Club.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Can we talk a little bit about how bad the
Trader Dan is and what.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
So bad?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So this happened on our season, where it was it
seemed so very obvious who the Traders were to the audience,
But when you're in it, it's really really difficult. You
don't know what to trust. You're like super paranoid. And
then for us, you know, watching season two, it seems
so very obvious that Dan is a trader, Like he
won't make any decisions, you know, he's real wishy washy.
(17:31):
So I'm wondering from your standpoint, were you like you're
terrible at this or were you not really sure?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Well, like Tamra, I got messages because the cast got
leaked before I went to Traders, and I was getting
messages about who to trust, who not to trust from
all my fans. But most importantly, I was caring what
people were saying about me. So I go out and
read it and I look at everything and people are like,
this kid's gonna get manipulated or whatnot. So I was like,
I gotta be on my A game mom out here.
I don't want to embarrass myself. I got to show
(18:00):
these people up.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Did they tell you not to trust Dan?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, they were saying, don't trust Dan.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I got the same messages.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So like my my spider senses were tingling right from
the get go not to trust this guy. And right
when I get there, him and I start talking college football,
like he was a high school football coach. And I'm like, okay,
I really like Dan. I'm not going to go after him.
And then that second episode, we have the Scarecrow challenge,
and I so I watched season one UK and US
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before going to Traders, and I took notes. I'm like, okay,
let's look at it from a production angle, and let's
look at it from a player angle. And in the challenges,
I don't know if you guys have realized this, but
they always make sure to make one of the questions
about a trader, So like one was Peppermint for the scarecrow,
one was Marcus for a scarecrow, and one was Dance.
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And then Peppermint got murdered or banished, and then Marcus
got murdered, and then Dan was left, so I was like,
Dangle possibly is a trader. Like if you go watch
Traders UK, they have the same scarecrow challenge and one
of the traders is one of the scarecrow answers, and
same thing with like Traders US one they had like
the roller coaster and they make sure to highlight a
(19:08):
trader within the like production of it. So I think
they've caught like I've caught onto it, so I'm sure
other people that are going on Traders have cut onto it.
So I'm hoping production stops doing that.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well they are now, they definitely are now.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just told everybody.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
That if you could change something about the show, what
would you change?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Okay, so I'm getting my doctor in physical therapy, So
if you play like the game Mafia, there's a doctor.
I would love for there to be a doctor in
Traders where they like the doctor has to like secretly
give someone a shield every night before cool, like before
everyone goes to bed, and like obviously you can't be
seen giving the shield. It's kind of like the poison
(19:49):
chalice almost, and then obviously if you were to give
the shield to a Trader, you're immediately going to get
murdered because the Trader's like, okay, we can get rid
of the doctor tonight. So like there's a like a
really it's a double edged sword. If you get the
shield to the wrong person, you're probably gonna get murdered.
But if you do it right, you could protect someone
from murder.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
I want to think about not letting the audience know
who the Traders are.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I thought would be a really cool like the show
comes out as the Traders, but if you want to
watch a non Traders version, like where you don't know
the Traders, you watch the show called the Faithful or
the Faithfuls and they come out at the same time,
like if you want to watch the Faithful version of
the Traders version.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I thought that'd be a cool take on it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But I have a feeling that the next season is
going to be us not knowing who the Traders are?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You think?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I hope?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
So? Wait you mean the one that's going to air
coming up?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Can I ask you, guys who you think the Traders are.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Going to be?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Who do you think berg?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I definitely think.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
One of the Robs is going to be a Trader,
whether it's Rob Cisterino, or Rob Rosch from Love Island
season six, that would be my guess, do you?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
I mean, obviously you can't say, but do you know
who won?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
No, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't even I don't know that there.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Is no leaks on that show. They are not playing,
they don't play there.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
But it's fun because I like to watch and it's
you know, it's not the only show where there was
no leaks.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Your your show had no leaks either. Camera No.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I know, like people were podcasting and like there was
some stuff with leaks, but I don't think anybody like
caught onto anything too big?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Got it? Okay?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Now do you think the missions should be different? A
lot of people were saying there should be more of
an incentive, like a personal incentive for the missions, for
the like an individual to earn money.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Or something good.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I think, uh, there should be an opportunity for a shield,
and it should be known how many shields are going
to be.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
In each mission.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So like the first five episodes there should be three shields,
Episode five to ten should be two shields, and then
like ten eleven there's one shield. Maybe just because like
there's just so much like chance right now with Traders.
It's not like a consistent game, like there's there could
be a mission today with no shields, there could be
a mission tomorrow with five shields. It's like super inconsistent,
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so it's like hard to plan around the shields.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You like patterns, don't ship er game.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I like patterns, and I like consistency, Like I want
to know if there's a roundtable or a sacrifice ceremony
that I need to prepare for so I don't get murdered.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, wasn't that the part of the game to be surprised, right?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah? It sucks. I like to be like prepared.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Well, if you ever go into a game where they
do tell you those things are going to win and
I want to play with you.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Awesome, I'd be down for that.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I like to win, you know it, Zloris one, right,
I do know.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, you went with like the most amount of faithfuls
I think you can win with.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah we did.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
But still, like around that fire pit, right until the
very very end, we did not know if one of
us was a try like, I didn't know any of
the other three were were not. I would have killed
Dyla and I promised him I would try to California
and kill him with my chop.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I want to see the turret, that's what I want
to see.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
How did they get there in the internal courtyard, that's
what That's all I want to see.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't want to see it at that time of night.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
They should do a tour of the house at the castle.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't think that the turret exists in the sense
of we think it does.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, I don't think you like a studio type thing.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
By the way, did you guys happen to venture upstairs much?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
It looks like it's falling apart.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh yeah, it seems it doesn't dangerous.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
It's not as habitable.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
It is safe, not so.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
But I can't ever see that castle ever being done.
I can't imagine what it would cost. Did you see it, Bergie,
what we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I thought it's very unfinished.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, and dirty and moldy, and walls broking and cold.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I was old.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Well, there's no air heater in it.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
My season was freezing, freezing and raining every day.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Same.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Did you guys have midgies?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What are midgies?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Little tiny bugs that actually you would have to wear
a net outside.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And they would go underneath the net and it was crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh we did not have that, No, but we did
have to wear like they told us, like wear socks.
If you have leggings on, where socks over it cover
all your body because of tick.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, well we all survived.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Listen Bergie, thank you so much for coming on the show.
We love you. We have really enjoyed watching you play
this game. Last thing before you go, if there's one
thing you could have changed about your gameplay or even
the way the show is made, what would you choose.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, I think I've already hit it. It's the I
wish I did more after like that sacrifice ceremony because
like you see, no screen time with me because I
just accepted that I was going home, especially after being
murdered once. And I wish I went to Phaedra and
like talk to Phaedra and was like, please keep me
in this game.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I know you're a trader, but like, keep me in
the game. I won't banish you. I promise. I wish
I did that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And the second thing is I think it'd be really
cool to add a doctor into it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah all right, I'm for the doctor. Yeah, before you go,
where people will find you, where should they follow you?
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You can follow me at bergie Licious thirty five on
Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh great, thanks Doc, awesome, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
We'll do bye.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Keep in touch.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh he's sweet, such a nice guy. But here's the
thing nice, he's really smart. You can tell how he's.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Very analytical and that's really makes a good gamer more
than anything.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
You should have seen him watching the light in the graveyard. Yeah, yeah,
he just had all the patterns down and people are going, no, no, no,
that's not right.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
He's like, yeah, it is. I'm kind of shocked that
they haven't had him back, that they haven't asked him
to come back.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
He well, he plays too good, but safe to say
that he he doesn't have a d D like we
all do or not you I mean and I'm diagnosed.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Okay, don't you have to to be on reality TV.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He doesn't have the same a d D that we have.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
And yeah, I would definitely like playing with him, that's it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, I'd be on the bur Delicious team.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Was he named burgolicious prior from like?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, he was named burglicious on Low Island.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh I thought it was Tim.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I thought no, I'm pretty sure he was Burgolicious.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
On Well if his handle is burgolicious.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, exactly. All right, fair enough, Well, this has been
a really fun episode. Big thanks to Bergie for coming on.
We need to get thanks of the cast members on
this show. I think it would be really cool and
we'll be back again next week. Ripping down episodes seven
and eight. We'll see you there.
All right, everyone, welcome back to by order of the
faithfuls joining us on the show, the One, the Only
Burglicious Burgie. How are you, Buddy good?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How are you guys good?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Thanks for coming on. We're so excited.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
I was just listening to you guys' last episodes because
it's like, oh my gosh, the nostalgia of all this,
because camer are you and I were filming exactly two
months ago right now?
Speaker 5 (00:23):
Oh my goodness, are you still a faithful I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Still faithful or I'm a murderers faithful, so I guess
I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, right now, I gotta ask Bury, did they ask
you to come back for the most recent season.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No, I never got to come back.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh yeah, I would go like every season if they
let me.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Me too, I feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, but like, could you ever be a trader? Do
you think I like.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
To say no, just in case I ever do get
asked to go back, because then if I like, people
would be like, oh, he's always said no, you could
never pull it off, So I would like to keep
that going.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Uh, that's a yes, Well, Bergie, were bringing you in
on the episode of which Tamra gets murdered and so
I guess I just want to ask from your perspective
when you realized who wasn't coming in that day to breakfast,
what you were feeling, what the the rest of the
cast was feeling, and if you thought it was a
(01:22):
good murder from the trader's standpoint, Hey, no.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Oh gosh, well I do think it was a good
murder because everyone was like, why the heck would they
murder Tamra? That doesn't make any sense, Like nobody, like
she wasn't on anybody's radar.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
You were sick like.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
The first like whole first episode, so like you weren't
on anybody's radar either, So it makes sense that you
would be a good first murder because nobody was thinking
about Tamra and you probably were never going to.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Get banished for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
But the thing that happened was Dan and I were
in the library and he's like, he said, it's so
like cringe worthy. He's like, I really don't know what's
going on since they murdered Tamra.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was like that that was like a red.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So bad at that he routed himself out.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Well, you know, Bergie, I don't know if you actually
I don't know if you do know this.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
The night before I got murdered.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
You know how there's a bell that rings at eleven
o'clock and you're all done filming. While I was in
the kitchen with Dan, and I said, and this is
where everyone's going.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
He's so quiet, he's not talking.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
He's probably da So I said, listen, I've been sick
and pretty quiet.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Not like me.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
You've been very very quiet.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I said, I feel like we need to get more vocal.
Let's stick together.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And I had a suspicion he was a trader.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
I just had a suspicion, And I said.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Do you trust me?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Do you trust me? Yes?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Okay, we're going to stick together. And I'm going to
tell you what about I hear? And I figured if
I had him on my side and a trader got murdered,
they bring me in.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
So the next morning I got murdered.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you were pissed at him.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I was pissed.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I thought for sure he did this to me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, and then you found out later it was at
like some convention or something.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
I was doing a live show in San Francisco with
my podcast, and I got the news right before I
went on stage, I'm like, God, damn it.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Really Edra want you out?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I can answer that because we John Peter were like
really thinking it was a housewife, especially since a housewife
haven't got murdered. So we started applying that pressure. And
then right after that, Phaedra murdered camera and try to
get us off the set. But that made John and
Peter go harder at Phaedra because they're like, well, we
mentioned that to Phaedria and now she's murdered Tamra. Now
(03:39):
we really think it's Phedra.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Well, it only.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Made me think after I watched it, I'm like, huh,
so I'm the out of all the housewives, she likes
me the least.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
That's where she murdered me.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't know why it was that personal.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I think it's because people.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Some people were still thinking Cheray could have been it
because they were like, Chara is so like oblivious to
everything going on right now.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, so she protected Sharak.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It was so quiet, Yeah, and maybe she thought Charay
would never betray her, but like maybe she thought you
might betray Pedra.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Well, I had a conversation with Phedra and it didn't
make air but I had a little bit of suspicion.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I said to her, I said, Pedra, you.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Never talk about the game.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
You're always praying for somebody, You're always like giving people
compliments and making jokes, but you never ever talk about
the game.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yep, Oh you got to see. That's it.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Then off with my head.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yep, big mistake.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I know you're like, damned if you do, and damned
if you don't. Like how much do you talk? How
much should you not talk? Should you pinpoint somebody? It's
it's a tough game.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, I guess say a lot and say nothing at all.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You know who's really good at that is Cet.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Cet could say a lot and say nothing at all,
and I think that's what helped him get to the end.
He would say a lot and nothing really made sense.
Same with Sandra. Both of them were really good at
like saying a lot of things, but like never pointing
the finger at anybody.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Bergiet, I thought Sandra because of her military background, and
at one point she's got all these rocks out and
she's doing all these kind of like like war plans
that she I don't remember picking almost.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I guess she voted for Dan, but I didn't. She
didn't really pick a lot of traders, right.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, she never did really anything in the whole game.
Like I remember like having trying to get her like
to join the Peter pals almost like come on, help
us vote these people out, like we really think they're traders,
and she just kind of like took a side step
like she wasn't going to help us, but she wasn't
going to be against us, and then she ended up
being against us later on when you know, she started
getting worried about the numbers and stuff, and then she realized
(05:48):
she had more numbers, but it felt like she wasn't
she was just trying to get to the end more
so than getting rid of traders.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I feel like we should talk about the plan. Was
it Peter's plan?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It was so you know, like when they have like
before the challenge, like there's we stopped filming for a
little bit. It was Janelle, Peter, myself and Chirchelle coming
up with the plan to you know, one of us
get the shield. But then we faked that we someone
else got the shield.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
That was so good, but Peter got to look credit.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Did he did?
Speaker 4 (06:19):
But he also went and told people because that was
not part of the plan. The plan was just a
keep it secret. So Janelle's actually kind of like if
you go back. I think you guys talked about that
on Talking Traders too. Like Janelle's like, Peter, what the
hell are you doing? Because poverty almost poverty flewed it together.
If he put two and she was in the.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Tour it, She's like, this don't feel right. What if
he did it on purpose?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
And it was just me, like I was gunning for
Dan the rest of the night. They didn't show a
lot of it, but like I was literally following Dan
around the castle say I'm gonna put your name on
my chalkboard. I'm gonna put my name on your chalkboard.
They showed me saying it once, but I probably said
it like eight or nine times in like four different rooms.
I was just falling around the castle and my harassing
him the whole night. So then he got to the
traders turn and he's like, we got to murder Bertie.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Wait, Bertie, don't you think were you trying to get
murdered or you were just trying to go home? What
was that all about the trader that you're gonna put
his name down?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I was. I was just so ad him.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I was kind of pissed that he got Janell out
because I was like, and he hadn't been helping us
at all, because I actually thought Poverty was more of
a trader than Dan was at this point.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Oh okay.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
And this was because of the like the whole funeral thing,
you know how aking Sue, MJ, and Poverty all went
in a coffin. And I was thinking from a production
point of view, like as I was playing the game,
I was like, if I was at home watching this
right now, I would want one of the traders to
be pretending to be a faithful because it would make
great television. So I was like, one of those three
have to be a trader ack and Sue died, so
(07:45):
I'm like, okay, now I have a fifty to fifty shot.
I definitely don't think it's MJ. So I was like,
I was gunning for Poverty too, you were.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think she was a better trader than Dan. She
was a good trader. She was smart in the game,
very smart.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
What they should have done, like there would be like
less risk with this, is they murder Peter because Peter
told him he had the shield and if they went
with that, like if he comes back to breakfast the
next morning, they could have been like, oh, you told
us you had the shield, like we wouldn't have murdered you.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And like if he didn't, if they did murder him.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He's gone like that that would have been a better
gamble than murdering me in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, you're right, Peter didn't tell you guys that he
was going to go kind of like leak this information
to who he thought was a trader. So coming into
the to the next day, did you know that he
(08:40):
had done that? And did you know that potentially you
could have been murdered?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
So, uh, when I got back from the challenge, they
wanted me to go do like my Master interviews on
a couch and talk about how I won the shield
during the Bird challenge. And then I remember getting out
of that and I had to go straight to Round
the Table. I didn't get any time to talk to anybody.
I'm like, what the hell is going going on? Like
I just won the shield and I just went straight
to roundtable after the challenge, So I didn't get any
time to talk to anybody before the challenge and then
(09:07):
or before the roundtable and after the roundtable. You can
see this in the the episode two. We're outside, it's Kevin, John, Peter,
and I. And then he tells John, Kevin and I
that he was telling CT Poverty and Dan that he
had the shield because we were thinking.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Like John was going to go home.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We're like John, We're sorry, like you're probably done for
And then Peter goes, well, I actually told Dan, Parverty
and STT that I had the shield.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Oh okay, but you know they could have they just
picked the r They could have picked anybody, but you Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well the other thing is too we were playing a
pressure saying like the traders were all inside, so they
they felt like they had to murder someone that was
outside because oh okay, because like we were telling everybody,
like all the traders were inside, like they're gonna have
to murder someone outside if they want a chance to
prove like one of the traders was outside. And they
(10:02):
ended up doing it in a backfire. So then even
doubled it that all the traders were inside the castle
for that third challenge.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Ah, that worked out.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Well, you really came out of your your you're pretty
quiet most of the time.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
The other thing is I just got done filming The
Love Island for two months and I had never been
on a television and then you know, I had a
week to prepare to go to Scotland. So I'm like
this twenty three year old kid don't know anybody, and
all these reality stars are like all friends already, and
I'm like, I am at such a disadvantage, like I
don't know anybody.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Sometimes you're better off.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think I was better off. Nobody knew what I
was gonna do.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Yeah, we really came out of your shyness or whatever
you want to call it when the graveyard challenge came
and you had those beams of light, like you knew
the pattern, Like how do I wouldn't even I would
think that pilot Pete would know the patterns and all
that stuff, But you had it all nailed down.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah. No.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
And the funny thing is, I think I could, like
if I was to step on that graveyard right now,
I'd still remember the pattern that they were going to do,
because that makes any sense.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Like I tell you a lot of video games or something,
that's really it.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I played a lot of video games playing that growing up,
so I was just like pretty good at it just
because of like the patterns and stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Married that you were the leader of that episode.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
I have to say though, in the beginning, yes, you
were the leader. And in the beginning, when was it
who came up to you and said, I think you're
a trader? Ack and Sue, wasn't it ack?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And suit? Yeah, your face was purple. I felt so bad.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
For you because she was going in so hard on
you and you were just not prepared for it.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You were just like why and so nervous.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I was like dying, Like I would have been nervous
whether we were playing traders or not. Like this I
just met, is grilling me on something that I have
no idea how to defend myself, Like, I'm looking for
words to defend myself. I'm like, we just got out
of the round table. I don't know what else to say.
Besides I'm a Faithful's.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
So nice camera, I feel, yeah nice? Like the housewives
will kill someone like that.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I know you talked a little bit about how you
were on Love Island and you only had a little
bit of time to prepare for Scotland. You started your
reality TV on Love Island, right, Yes, I did what
pushed you to audition for that particular show.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
For whatever reason, I thought I was going to find
my wife on the show, which is a really dumb
way to go into it, but I think I did so.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Ah, yeah, you're still with Taylor, right, I'm still with Taylor.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Oh congratulations. That's a cute love story.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I don't know if you guys know this, but I
have been watching Burgie on TV longer than anybody because
my wife was hosting that season and I had to
go to Fiji and I would sit there in her
dressing room. She had like monitors to watch the show
so she can kind of and she'd be like, there's
(13:00):
this guy Burgie that like is such a sweetheart, and
we're all for him.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That's so cute.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
I had no idea your wife hosted that show.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, for a couple of seasons and then and then
bailed out. But uh yeah, so I got to I
got to know about Burgie like kind of before the
entire world did, because it was shot like a little
bit of a delay.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know, is he consistently nice like this? I think
he is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He was like, okay, so in Love Island, he was
the fan favorite for sure like everyone loved him, and
then it was funny, do you just have this this
way about you of everyone just falls in love with you?
Because then it happens again on Traders where everyone's just like,
I'm so so sweet, which is why Burgie cute. I
(13:47):
desperately want you to go back on the show, but
I want to see if you can be sinister and
evil and be a trader.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I I personally think I played the best faithful game
I could have played already, so it's like I have
nothing else to show as a faithful So I think
being a Trader, we'll see how if I can last
more than two episodes. I think that'd be the challenge
to you make it past two episodes. If I do,
that is a win in my book. I don't care
what anybody else says, like Bertie was the worst Trader
I ever. If I made it two episodes, I did
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
What was more nerve wracking? Traders or love Violin?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Oh love Island? Something out there and just it was?
It was bad and then I got rejected. I got
eliminated the first day, and then I came back like
day two, and I was even more nervous because I
already been eliminated. I was just like, I'm gonna be
the first contestant ever to be eliminated twice.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
First in row.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
You didn't have your guardian angel on Love Island, Miss
Phaedra Parks.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Bur Delicious, she named burglicious.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
She loved you.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
She really and still does. Do you guys still keep
in touch? And do you keep in touch with all
the other people?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I keep in touch more with Chrochelle and Peter and Janelle.
Those are probably my top three phedra We were we
next periodically? I would say, like every three months, we
might start texting each other, but it's not you know,
like a consistent like monthly check in. But I would say,
like every three months, we'll check in with one another.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Looking back on your experience of Traders, would would you
change anything about your gameplay if you went on? If
you went on again?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, I definitely screwed up, like joining the Peter Palace,
Like that's something I regret. But what I regretted the
Peter Palace, what I regret even more is that last
night they did that like sacrifice ceremony and I they
cut it out, but I said, like, I'll take I'll
take the blow guys like you guys, go ahead and
get your torches light lit.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And I wish I didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And then after that, Yoursel's like, go talk to Phager,
tell her you really want to be here, And I
was like, I don't want to get a pity boat
to stay here, like that was kind of my mindset.
But I wish I took that pity boat because I
could definitely use the money.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Ah well, speaking of winning money on TV, I mean,
you've done pretty well on the two that I've seen
you on. Any interested in doing other shows like Survivor
or Big Brother or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I definitely applied, but I applied to Survivor Big Brother
but never heard back.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So I'm just in PT school for the time.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, it's like a fan favorite.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's our Burger Delicious. We'll watch for him.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, Dina Katz, where are you? Let's cast him things.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'm down for it.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
We'll get you on there.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Well, good luck in PT school. That's that's a really
hard thing.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
It is.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's it's definitely like one of the hardest things I've
ever done is doctor to Physical therapist school.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Well, good for you.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
You're going to do it, and we're very proud of
you and we think you're awesome big fans.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, I'm a big fan of you guys.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Do Delicious fan Club.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Can we talk a little bit about how bad the
Trader Dan is and what.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
So bad?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
So this happened on our season, where it was it
seemed so very obvious who the Traders were to the audience,
But when you're in it, it's really really difficult. You
don't know what to trust. You're like super paranoid. And
then for us, you know, watching season two, it seems
so very obvious that Dan is a trader, Like he
won't make any decisions, you know, he's real wishy washy.
(17:31):
So I'm wondering from your standpoint, were you like you're
terrible at this or were you not really sure?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Well, like Tamra, I got messages because the cast got
leaked before I went to Traders, and I was getting
messages about who to trust, who not to trust from
all my fans. But most importantly, I was caring what
people were saying about me. So I go out and
read it and I look at everything and people are like,
this kid's gonna get manipulated or whatnot. So I was like,
I gotta be on my A game mom out here.
I don't want to embarrass myself. I got to show
(18:00):
these people up.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Did they tell you not to trust Dan?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, they were saying, don't trust Dan.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I got the same messages.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So like my my spider senses were tingling right from
the get go not to trust this guy. And right
when I get there, him and I start talking college football,
like he was a high school football coach. And I'm like, okay,
I really like Dan. I'm not going to go after him.
And then that second episode, we have the Scarecrow challenge,
and I so I watched season one UK and US
(18:28):
before going to Traders, and I took notes. I'm like, okay,
let's look at it from a production angle, and let's
look at it from a player angle. And in the challenges,
I don't know if you guys have realized this, but
they always make sure to make one of the questions
about a trader, So like one was Peppermint for the scarecrow,
one was Marcus for a scarecrow, and one was Dance.
(18:48):
And then Peppermint got murdered or banished, and then Marcus
got murdered, and then Dan was left, so I was like,
Dangle possibly is a trader. Like if you go watch
Traders UK, they have the same scarecrow challenge and one
of the traders is one of the scarecrow answers, and
same thing with like Traders US one they had like
the roller coaster and they make sure to highlight a
(19:08):
trader within the like production of it. So I think
they've caught like I've caught onto it, so I'm sure
other people that are going on Traders have cut onto it.
So I'm hoping production stops doing that.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Well they are now, they definitely are now.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just told everybody.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
That if you could change something about the show, what
would you change?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Okay, so I'm getting my doctor in physical therapy, So
if you play like the game Mafia, there's a doctor.
I would love for there to be a doctor in
Traders where they like the doctor has to like secretly
give someone a shield every night before cool, like before
everyone goes to bed, and like obviously you can't be
seen giving the shield. It's kind of like the poison
(19:49):
chalice almost, and then obviously if you were to give
the shield to a Trader, you're immediately going to get
murdered because the Trader's like, okay, we can get rid
of the doctor tonight. So like there's a like a
really it's a double edged sword. If you get the
shield to the wrong person, you're probably gonna get murdered.
But if you do it right, you could protect someone
from murder.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
I want to think about not letting the audience know
who the Traders are.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I thought would be a really cool like the show
comes out as the Traders, but if you want to
watch a non Traders version, like where you don't know
the Traders, you watch the show called the Faithful or
the Faithfuls and they come out at the same time,
like if you want to watch the Faithful version of
the Traders version.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I thought that'd be a cool take on it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But I have a feeling that the next season is
going to be us not knowing who the Traders are?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
You think?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
So?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I hope?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
So? Wait you mean the one that's going to air
coming up?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Can I ask you, guys who you think the Traders are.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Going to be?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Who do you think berg?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I definitely think.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
One of the Robs is going to be a Trader,
whether it's Rob Cisterino, or Rob Rosch from Love Island
season six, that would be my guess, do you?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
I mean, obviously you can't say, but do you know
who won?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
No, I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't even I don't know that there.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Is no leaks on that show. They are not playing,
they don't play there.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
But it's fun because I like to watch and it's
you know, it's not the only show where there was
no leaks.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Your your show had no leaks either. Camera No.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I know, like people were podcasting and like there was
some stuff with leaks, but I don't think anybody like
caught onto anything too big?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Got it? Okay?
Speaker 7 (21:29):
Now do you think the missions should be different? A
lot of people were saying there should be more of
an incentive, like a personal incentive for the missions, for
the like an individual to earn money.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Or something good.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I think, uh, there should be an opportunity for a shield,
and it should be known how many shields are going
to be.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
In each mission.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
So like the first five episodes there should be three shields,
Episode five to ten should be two shields, and then
like ten eleven there's one shield. Maybe just because like
there's just so much like chance right now with Traders.
It's not like a consistent game, like there's there could
be a mission today with no shields, there could be
a mission tomorrow with five shields. It's like super inconsistent,
(22:15):
so it's like hard to plan around the shields.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
You like patterns, don't ship er game.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I like patterns, and I like consistency, Like I want
to know if there's a roundtable or a sacrifice ceremony
that I need to prepare for so I don't get murdered.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, wasn't that the part of the game to be surprised, right?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yeah? It sucks. I like to be like prepared.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Well, if you ever go into a game where they
do tell you those things are going to win and
I want to play with you.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Awesome, I'd be down for that.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I like to win, you know it, Zloris one, right,
I do know.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Yeah, you went with like the most amount of faithfuls
I think you can win with.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, yeah we did.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
But still, like around that fire pit, right until the
very very end, we did not know if one of
us was a try like, I didn't know any of
the other three were were not. I would have killed
Dyla and I promised him I would try to California
and kill him with my chop.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I want to see the turret, that's what I want
to see.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
How did they get there in the internal courtyard, that's
what That's all I want to see.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't want to see it at that time of night.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
They should do a tour of the house at the castle.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't think that the turret exists in the sense
of we think it does.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, I don't think you like a studio type thing.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
By the way, did you guys happen to venture upstairs much?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah? I did.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
It looks like it's falling apart.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Oh yeah, it seems it doesn't dangerous.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
It's not as habitable.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
It is safe, not so.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
But I can't ever see that castle ever being done.
I can't imagine what it would cost. Did you see it, Bergie,
what we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I thought it's very unfinished.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Yeah, and dirty and moldy, and walls broking and cold.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I was old.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Well, there's no air heater in it.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
My season was freezing, freezing and raining every day.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Same.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Did you guys have midgies?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
What are midgies?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Little tiny bugs that actually you would have to wear
a net outside.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And they would go underneath the net and it was crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Oh we did not have that, No, but we did
have to wear like they told us, like wear socks.
If you have leggings on, where socks over it cover
all your body because of tick.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Yeah, well we all survived.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Listen Bergie, thank you so much for coming on the show.
We love you. We have really enjoyed watching you play
this game. Last thing before you go, if there's one
thing you could have changed about your gameplay or even
the way the show is made, what would you choose.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, I think I've already hit it. It's the I
wish I did more after like that sacrifice ceremony because
like you see, no screen time with me because I
just accepted that I was going home, especially after being
murdered once. And I wish I went to Phaedra and
like talk to Phaedra and was like, please keep me
in this game.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I know you're a trader, but like, keep me in
the game. I won't banish you. I promise. I wish
I did that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And the second thing is I think it'd be really
cool to add a doctor into it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah all right, I'm for the doctor. Yeah, before you go,
where people will find you, where should they follow you?
All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You can follow me at bergie Licious thirty five on
Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Oh great, thanks Doc, awesome, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
We'll do bye.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Keep in touch.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Oh he's sweet, such a nice guy. But here's the
thing nice, he's really smart. You can tell how he's.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
Very analytical and that's really makes a good gamer more
than anything.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
You should have seen him watching the light in the graveyard. Yeah, yeah,
he just had all the patterns down and people are going, no, no, no,
that's not right.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
He's like, yeah, it is. I'm kind of shocked that
they haven't had him back, that they haven't asked him
to come back.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
He well, he plays too good, but safe to say
that he he doesn't have a d D like we
all do or not you I mean and I'm diagnosed.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Okay, don't you have to to be on reality TV.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
He doesn't have the same a d D that we have.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
And yeah, I would definitely like playing with him, that's it.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, I'd be on the bur Delicious team.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Was he named burgolicious prior from like?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, he was named burglicious on Low Island.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh I thought it was Tim.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I thought no, I'm pretty sure he was Burgolicious.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
On Well if his handle is burgolicious.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, exactly. All right, fair enough, Well, this has been
a really fun episode. Big thanks to Bergie for coming on.
We need to get thanks of the cast members on
this show. I think it would be really cool and
we'll be back again next week. Ripping down episodes seven
and eight. We'll see you there.
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