August 25, 2020 • 43 mins
Wells hangs with Wizards of Waverly Place Star David Henrie. Get to know him on a whole new level
We hear his experience acting alongside Selena Gomez and how that grew into a deep and longlasting friendship.
He reveals the major turning point in his life that led to his career as an actor.
He’s one of the only Disney stars who wrote episodes and David shares behind the scenes stories
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Wells Cast with Wells Adams and I
Heart Radio, podcast Time for the Wales CASTA and Reality
TV right now is just killing me. Sarah got me
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on selling Sunset. You know it's funny. You know. The
original iteration of this show was the Prodcast with Stephanie Pratt,
who was on a show called The Hills and selling Sunset.
I believe the creator of the Hills also started selling Sunset.
And I have to be honest with you, I absolutely
hate that show. But I also can't look away. You know,
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It's one of those things. I'm just rubber neck in
this show the entire time, Like everyone's a vapid, terrible person.
But I also who's using this real estate agency? Can
you imagine being mayor and walking in to that real
estate company with your wife your wife and be like, well,
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all right, turning around now, this is the Hooters of
real estate agencies. Everyone just a hot chick, And it
just goes to show you how stupid men are. Not
that all those women aren't like completely capable real estate agents.
I'm sure they are. I'm sure they're great. They're making
a ton of money. Guys are like hot. Okay, oh,
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oh you have long legs, pretty hair. Here's my checking account,
the last four of my social of my mother's maiden name.
It's not an indictment on the women that work there,
it's an indictment on how stupid men are that they will.
Literally we're just completely compelled to do whatever beautiful women
want us to do. It's quite sad, actually embarrassed to
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be a man, but it's true. It shows good though.
But I also just don't think anyone's like going to
them really to buy real estate. I saw like the
one at so with Karamo on and I'm like, you're
not buying this house. You promote your thing queer eye,
and like whatever your other beside businesses, you're not gonna
buy this house. But then the other one, Oh my god, Guys,
Love on the Spectrum, I'm gonna go ahead and say
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something that I don't know if you're going to agree with,
but whatever, I'll say this best reality television show that's
ever been made. If you haven't seen Love on the Spectrum,
you need to watch it. It's a reality dating show
about people who are on the autism spectrum and they
find it hard to date because they have social issues
and developmental issues. But it's so interesting because they're so direct.
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It's almost like you wish that people who weren't autistic
were more like this, because then the dating world would
be so much easier. Hey, Mark, would you would you
date someone who doesn't like dinosaurs? And He's like, no, No,
I would not. I would not compromise, you know, And
I love that. I'm like, man, what wouldn't I compromise for?
You know? Like, what are my things? And I'm like, no,
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hard pass, line in the sand, dying on this hill,
No way. If you want a feel good show, it's
gonna make you laugh and make you cry. Dude, watch
Love on the Spectrum. It's on Netflix or whatever. It's
so good. I can't tell you enough how much I
think that show is super rat. Speaking of rad shows,
you guys remember Wizards of Waverley Place. Of course you'd do.
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It was a stable for a lot of millennials and
Jen Zars gen Xpers. I don't even know I think
Jen z ears. Yeah, Well, today on the show where
you're going to have someone from Wizards of Waverley Place,
a kid that started acting at the age of five,
doing local commercials, modeling and was making his own movies,
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writing his own skits. At the age of twelve, booked
a role on a show called The Pits, what was
on a little show called That's So Raven. Also worked
on n c I S Judging, Amy House, Cold Case,
How I Met Your Mother, and then of course a
leading role on Wizards of Waverley Place that ran for
over a hundred episodes to this day, the youngest and
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only actor on a Disney show to right an episode
at like seventeen years old. Yeah, he's a great actress,
probably what you know him for. But he's really diving
into the behind the scenes stuff, director role, writer role,
and coming up in just a couple of days, he's
got a new movie out that he produced with his
good friends Selina Gomez. Oh, by the way, he also
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accident he directed it. He also had a handwriting it.
There's literally nothing that this kid can't do. So coming
up on the Wells Cast an episode that is just
so cool stick around. David Henry is on the Wells Cast.
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All right, welcome in to the Wells Cast. Very excited
to have the man the Myth of the Legends, David
Henry on the show How are You a Man? I
am good. I'm good. Thank you very much for having me.
Grateful to be here on the show. Dude, you were
a part of one of the most iconic y A
shows ever, right, you know it's crazy, man, which day
really place has gone to the whole world. And when
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you're making the show, you have no idea you know
what the response is going to be. You have no
clue how it's going to be received. And it's even
more meaningful now people come up to me, they're like,
you were my childhood. You didn't expect that going into
the show, but it's so nice to hear that. You
put a smile on someone's face and you know you're
you're a warm feeling for people. I'm just grateful and humbled,
and you know, it's a nice feeling. I mean, yeah,
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you started this really early and you did a couple
of project I was rooting up on you. You did
a couple of projects kind of before the show. But
then you get on this gigantic juggernaut of the show.
At that age, did you have any idea like what
the hell was going on? Did you have perspective on
what was unfolding on a TV? You know, not really
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I was not prepared for it at all. I had
been acting since I was little, and I always wanted
to do a Disney Channel show to get to actually
act with people my age. I had always done adult
shows like n C I S and just a bunch
of more adult judging amy and without a trace like
adult stuff, so I never got to act with kids.
I like loved Lizzie McGuire and even Stevens, and I
knew those were big hits, but no, there was no
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amount of preparation that could happen for the show, and
just you know, it's skyrocketed. Man, It's skyrocketed, and it
was It was fun to be a part of. Did
you have any idea like what type of entertainer Selena
was going to become? Back then, we had some thought
because Miley Syrus had blown up from Hannah Montana and
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she kind of became the first real huge triple that
threat of like actress, singer, dancer, um than movie star like,
so she had come up before us, so we knew
it was possible, but we didn't know what was gonna
happen with Selena. Uh and even in the early on
she wasn't singing like in the first season, but then
she started to so, um, we're just it's it's no
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surprise in in you know, looking back on it, what happened.
But at the time we didn't really know what was
going to happen. We knew they had special plans for her,
we didn't know how big, and in fact, she wasn't
even in the pilot. The the original um pilot was
was was very different than what you've seen now. UM,
so it wasn't like always a starring vehicle for her.
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They totally changed a show to what we see now
and then it became a big vehicle for her and
then took off. So it's no surprise of what happened.
Speaking of Selena, you guys teamed back up to produce
a film together your I guess acting in it. She's not,
but she's epeeing in it. The movie is called This
is the Year. I don't understand what a virtual movie premiere?
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What does that mean? It's a lot of words. So
this was something, you know, necessity is the mother of
all invention, And we had a theatrical release for the
film plan and when COVID had and we obviously lost
that and we didn't want to give up and be like,
we're waiting until two when it's safe the you know,
release a movie. So we said, let's do something different.
Let's let's take a pay per view model, a live
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pay per view model, where you bring someone an experience live,
and let's welcome fans to to join us in that effort.
So basically, we said, let's have a live premiere. You
know you've been to premieres. I've been to premieeres. So
many people haven't. We're very lucky by way of our
work to get to go to a very exclusive thing.
Let's make the premiere atmosphere live direct a consumer and
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have fans come experience it with us. So we'll do
a live Q and a before and after the film
where we'll welcome fans. Um a performance by Lovely the
band they'll do, you know, multi platinum artists. They'll do
a live performance for us, and UM, let's just give
him a live, fun, feel good experience. People want to
feel good right now. People are trapped indoors for noble
reasons obviously, but um, they want to feel good and
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this is a feel good movie. Uh. Selina and I
are going to be on camera again for the first
time in eight years, so that'll be nostalgic and feel
good for people. And it all benefits COVID relief, which
is great. We're benefiting the Plus one UH COVID Relief Fund,
which will do some good. So it's kind of like
a one time only win win live event with all
of us where we watched the movie and have fun
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together on on a zoom. Is this the new normal
going forward? Like, are you guys the first but not
the last? Well, we'll definitely be the case study, that's
for sure. This is the first that someone's done this. Obviously,
bands have done live events, especially when COVID hit and
have been very successful with that. Comedie stand up comedians
have done live events which have been very successful. So
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I think it's a natural progression for people with films
sitting on a shelf to be like, I need to
do something with this. I need to do something a
way to you know, get my film out there. And
so we're definitely the case study. A lot of people
are talking about it, and um, I don't think it
could be a bigger case study with the kind of
people we have involved. So we're we're hoping this could
be a new normal because it's disruptive. Man, this this
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doesn't interfere with any downstream acquisitions. This is like literally
a found uh you would producers would call it found
money because it's a a new way to get the
film to everyone and it doesn't impact the way you
would sell the film down the line. So it's it's
kind of a win win for everyone where there's a
charitable component. Um, we're getting the movie out there and
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it's feel good, like I hope people will be smiling
the whole time. Um, So it definitely will be a
bit disruptive and a new model for sure if it works. Yeah.
I was watching the video to promote the pay per
view deal that you and Selena were doing, and you
guys were talking about how like in this time you
really kind of do need a feel good moment because
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it's just so much it's swirling around us. Everyone go
to this is the year dot film to buy your
tickets and everything. I think it's such a cool idea
because then it really lets anybody from any like you
don't have to go to the Chinese theater to like
see this, Like anybody that and anywhere can go do
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it and be a part of it, which I think
is very very cool. You go and watch it, and
then what happens like so then like next week, is
it's streamable or are you waiting down the road to
then have like another theatrical release. How does that work correct? Yeah,
it's a great question. So yeah, we'll have this event
on the This Live Fun Experience, and then after that
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we are already talking to a lot of different partners
to give them the film, so they'll be a handoff
towards the end of the year. So this is like
our big splash moment. A lot of people are gonna
watch it with us, and then towards the end of
the year there'll be another moment where you can suddenly
watch the movie whenever you want at your leisure. But
this is the way to really help us get the
best person down the road to partner with to release
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the film. Well it's a cool idea. Now let's go
into what the story is about, because I don't know,
going back to like my high school and college days
of getting a bunch of idiots together and jumping in
a car and like going to a concert, and I
think that that's kind of like the idea of the
storyline right, Yeah, Yeah, it's a dude, it's a it's
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a class. I was a fan of like eighties coming
of age movies and just all coming of age movies
that it was the biggest fan of. Um they really
spoke to me, and so I wanted to kind of
harken back to those but do it in a more
modern way. So you'll feel some throwback vibes in the
film to those older movies. There's some homage moments, but
we wanted to do it with much more current themes
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and flip a out of the tropes that those movies
established on their head, especially with female characters and female friendship,
wanting to show authentic female friendship and not cattiness or competitiveness.
And our female writers say an awkwardly needed a great
job with that. So there's a lot of empowering messaging
behind the film, and it does have a lot of
the fun you were talking about. It is a road
trip film. They are seeing an awesome band, lovely the
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band perform, but there are some deeper conversations had along
the way and deeper realizations. There's a love triangle thing
that happens. It's a it's a classic story kind of
updated and told from a directing point of view in
an interesting way. Like you know, no one's going to
reinvent the wheel when it comes to like love triangles
like those have always worked since the beginning of time.
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It's something we all know, we're all familiar with. You
gotta probably guess the ending, But it's about how you
get there and the fun you have along the way,
and kind of how it's told. So I embraced all
of those classic themes and kind of just updated it
and and worked really hard to tell it in a
visually interesting way so it keeps the story moving. So
it kind of has some Edgar Right vibes at times, um,
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but definitely has like some kind of wonderful eighties classic archetypes.
So you are embodying the ghost of John Hughes, then
zero doubt about that standing on the shoulders of a giants.
That's uh, that's what I'm trying to do. Wait, so
were you in it or are you directing it? So,
like what is your in it? Yeah? So I directed it,
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and um, I was one of the writers on it.
So I wrote it with Heppy Portillo, Um Santa Aqualine
and Bug Hall. So there's four of us who wrote it,
and then I directed it, and I played a small role,
up somewhat small role in the film. Okay, So I mean,
first of all, super awesome that you're diversifying, you know,
like your Hollywood mark on things and writing and producing
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and directing is dope. But if you and Selena are
working together, why the hell are you both in the
thing in the movie. Yeah, Selena and I have never
We've always just been good friends and we've never like
ever stepped in a professional realm except for our TV show,
and that because what's always been most important to us
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is our friendship and not ever doing anything to muddy that.
She had just been seeing the movie and giving me
advice for years as I went about writing it and
producing it, developing it, and then directing it. She was
always along every step of the way as a friend would,
and she was super supportive and gave me fantastic advice
all along the way, recommendations and tips, and so once
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you finally got to see the film, she was like, David,
I see so I love this genre. I see so
many teen coming of age movies and the message a
lot of times doesn't make me feel very good or
I think is very empowering, especially to women. And she
was like, in your movie did that and I want
young girls to see this message. I want to get
behind this film. So it was a very organic process
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to be like, well, you've kind of already been executive
producing this thing for you know, years now, why don't
why not make it official? Uh? And she was super
excited to get on board and it behind this. So
it was something that happened super organically. UM, and I
don't think could have happened any other way. So we're
we're We're excited. We're excited. Everyone out there, go get
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your tickets now. This is the year dot film is
where you go. I've just seen the trailer for it
and the promotional videos and it does look awesome. And
if it's anything like any of those, like you know,
my favorite eighties John Hughes coming of age films, that
I'm all about it, dude, So congratulations. I think that
one of the craziest stats that I learned about you
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whilst prepping for this was that you had written an
episode of Wizards of Waverley Place. You did it before
I think I even could read and write, like first
of all like, how did you even have the idea
to do that at such a young age, and then
also how are you able to like execute something like that?
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Thank you for bringing that up that this is like
how I kind of got in the business was writing
and directing. Like I was just a little Italian kid
in Arizona with a big family and no connections to
the industry. And when it was someone's birthday, I would
take a video camera and I learned that if you
hit stop and record at certain times, you could play
it back and it was like a movie. You could
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move to the camera and if I stopped it at
a certain time and move the angle, it would work seamlessly.
And so when it was someone's birthday, I would parody
them and I would give it to my family and
it made him laugh. In it. We'd be eaten pasta
and I played the video and people would laugh. And
that's kind of how I got into business, as I
was able to show that to my family and then
begged my parents to like call someone in Hollywood, even
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if it seemed like a scam, just to like get me,
get me an audition and opportunity something. And so I
was always writing from the time. I was eight nine
years old when I started acting, and when I got
on Wizards. From day one, I said, I want my
shot to write. I love writing. I want my shot.
And they said, well, we're not giving it to you
just because you're an actor. You need to go write
spec scripts and submit spec scripts for other shows. So
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I wrote a couple two and a half men spec
scripts and those were good enough to get me in
the writing room, and then I started pitching jokes, and
then I finally started getting scripts, and I wrote multiple
scripts for the show, and uh, it was It was
a dream come true. Really was a dream come true.
How old are you when you're doing this, seventeen or eighteen?
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I think I was seventeen. I was the only Disney
Channel actor that ever if that's been changed now, but
at the time, the only one to ever write for
a show. Um actually professionally, right for a show? I mean,
obviously you want to be like a five tool player, right,
You wanna be able to do everything. What do you
like doing the most? Is it acting? Is that writing?
Is that directing? Is that producing? Like? What's in your
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hierarchy of badasses? Are badasss? I'm gonna I'm gonna use
that one for sure after this directing. I really like directing.
I I it to me it's I'm such a visual guy.
I've gotten to write, and I've sold scripts and set
things up, and I've written enough to know that. I
it's so hard. It's so hard, and it has this
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such small reward because you can you spend. There's not
it's not a nine to five like you're there till
it works and then people come and shoot you down
and you rewrite it and you change it and then
you get notes and you there's no You are just
in this like floating world. Just do when you're crawling
to try to get it where it needs to be.
And it's so hard, and it's such a circular process.
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I'm with directing, there's more of a brackets around it,
like you can see it. It's tangible, you know what
you're doing, you're delivering, and um, I'm just more visual
of a person. I'm so happy I've written professional because
I understand how that relates to the directing process especially,
but um, I I love directing. It's where it all
comes to life. It's where you can actually start to
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move people's emotions and um, you can obviously you do
with writing as well, but we're in a visual medium.
So I love, I absolutely love directing. I've written enough
to know that I don't want to be a professional writer.
That's just fully full honest. I have so much respect
for writers, so much respect because it is so much
time they put into it that you don't see that's
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never accounted for it. That's what's I think probably the
most important job in the entire process, and the well
they deserve the most respect. And I come from the
radio world, and I mean I hosted c HR a
pop Showffet Devely for years in Nashville, and Lovely the
band was a band that I was very familiar with,
So I think it's awesome that you kind of like
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use them. I assume there's someone of a character in
this movie for you guys, I'm just curious, like, how
do you decide on what band you use? It was
like your friends with them, or like it would make
sense for the for the movie, or like they were
the cheapest in terms of getting them to do, Like
how does that work? Yeah, So to me, it was
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all about the ending of the film. I knew that
the ending of the film was going to be shot,
it would need to be like a dance. Like the
end of the film is like kind of an action sequence.
There's a lot of running, there's big set pieces, it's
it's a lot, and it's all to the final song.
So the band is like playing there a crescendo, playing
an epic song at the end of the concert, and
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that's where a lot of our action takes place at
the end of the film. So I knew that that
song was most important. I needed to find the perfect
song and had to have the right momentum and everything,
and we needed that before we shot the film, so
I could literally choreography to the song itself. I auditioned
a bunch of different songs of bands I was a
fan of, and lovely the band Maybe I'm Afraid was
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the perfect song. When I heard that song, I remember
I was I had it on my speakers in my house,
and the second I heard that, it just all came
to life to me, came to life in a real way,
and I was like, that's the song. We have to
get that. Coincidentally, the guitar player's father created Wizards of
Waverley Place completely coincidentally. I was like, this is the song,
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this is the band. Can we figure this out? We
gotta find this guy. And I got a call back
like shortly thereafter, and my music supervisor was like, you
are not gonna believe this, Like what like his dad
is Todd Greenwald created freaking Widges whatever the place. I
was like, perfect, We're gonna get him. Uh And it
was like a matchmate in heaven. They've been incredible to
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work with, so giving. Um they acted in the film too.
They did a good job. It was It really was great.
It was an awesome experience, truly, like the seven Degrees
of Kevin Bacon thing right there. I was like, yeah,
what's the seven degrees? That was nuts, man, I couldn't
believe that. It was nuts, nuts nuts. I'm excited to
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see this film. Everyone out there again. You can go
buy your tickets and be a part of the Virtual
movie premiere at this is the Year Dot film. I
don't know if anyone told you, but the kind of
the premise of this show is origin stories, and I
like to talk to my guests just kind of like
where they came from and how the hell they got here.
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So you know, when we come back from this break
can we talk about how the hell you got on
this show? And I love it? Let's do it? Yeah,
all right quick, right, we come back more on the
Wells Cast with David Henry. Al right back in the
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Wales cast. Got David Henry here on the show. Excited
about his new film called this is the year. You
can buy your tickets for this virtual movie premiere at
This is the year Dot Film. David directed it, you
had a hand in writing it. Selena is epeeing this thing.
You're in it a little bit, very very excited for
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this thing. Everyone out there again, this is the year
Dot Films where you need to go get your virtual
movie from your tickets. But I want to get on
with the actual show, which is Origin Stories. I can't
wait to find out how the hell you got to
this place. You touched on it a little bit earlier
about you wanted to get into Hollywood and you were
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doing that by kind of like directing with old camcorders
and stuff. So tell everyone, like where you came from?
Great question. Um, I hail from Arizona, from the nice
hot desert of Arizona. Had no connection to the industry whatsoever,
didn't have a famous uncle or a dad who I
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don't know it was a producer or anything. I was
just a normal kid from Arizona who played ice hockey
believe it or not in the desert. And uh, I
had a big Italian family and my grandfather I had
still have a big telling them. My grandfather was kind
of like a class clown and super funny and always
inspired me to tell jokes and play the guitar and
tell jokes while playing the guitar. And when the first
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camcorders came out with a little flipout monitor, I figured
out how to make a movie on it and just
like press pause and record and move the camera around.
And I would make sketches and parody my family members
and parody my father especially. He was like a big
weightlifter in Arizona, so I would like stuck my shirt
with muscles and pretend I was him and just do
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do these goofy sketches that would make everyone laugh too.
Songs like bad to the Bone, and I just did
all sorts of silly things. I would do music videos,
like anytime fifty cent would drop a new song back then,
I would of course do my version of his music video.
And it was just silly stuff but really led to
my family saying, you know what, I think you have talent.
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We're going to try to find someone in Hollywood. And
I got in contact with something that seemed like a scam,
which was like a manager on the news or something
that represented kid actors and just cold called and they said, hey,
if you want to take a trip out to California
with your parents, we can say hi to you. You
can read a couple of lines, and so we went
to California. I auditioned and they said, you know what,
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you're great. We want to put you in front of
a Burger King commercial. There's a local casting for Burger
King National commercial, stopping before you get back on your
plane to go back to Arizona, and we'll see what happens.
And so I got to the audition and I remember
everyone there was like super trained kid actors, like they
knew what marks were, they knew like what the lighting was, like,
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they were like little robotic like like kids. And I
remember just being like whoa these kids are? Like where
like this is not normal kids? Like something's up here.
And so I just walked into the room with the
director and he had a hockey Jersey on a maple
leaves Jersey on and I started talking hockey with him
and I was just having shooting the breeze with him,
having a good time, and at the end of it
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he was like, all right, well, yeah, I think you
got the role. Um He's like, you just do that
on camera, right, And I was like, yeah, acting is great.
I love this world. And nine years old, I just
started working. I got that like several other commercials, then
started doing TV and then became serious regulars on some
Fox shows. One was like Method and Red with the
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rappers Method Man and Red Man. I was like this
fourteen year old kid, like in every episode with them,
hanging out, like chilling in the dressing your Method Man
and Red Man, fourteen year old white kid, like just
vibing with these guys. That was very coming of age.
And I just started working like crazy from there and
then got in Disney and uh, that's kind of the
long winded store origin story. Okay, so your parents, I
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guess I break down. They're like, Okay, we'll take we'll
go to l A and you'll do this burger King
commercial you book I guess you booked the Burger King commercial. Yeah,
And so you go back to Arizona. Are they like, uh,
you got your commercial, like that's done? Or are they like,
I guess now we gotta move to Hollywood? What were
the steps there? Absolutely? I was very fortunate to have
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a family that like very much didn't need me in
a sense of we're working for our kids or our
kids gonna be you know, we're gonna completely break down
our family for our child, which a lot of child
actors that happens where the parents suddenly works for the
kid and then you have a weird, tough, tough family dynamic,
which can cause issues later. I was very lucky to
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have a grounded family. So they were like, look, you're
a kid. What's most important is you being a kid.
If you're not happy for any moments with any of
this thing, you're out of there. But if you want
to keep going, we're behind you. Like we take you
to hockey practice, we'll take you to auditions. My mother
and I would fly back and forth a lot, and
then for like what's called pilot season. I'm sure you
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know what that is, but for your listeners who might not,
that's like this season where everyone comes to try to
get on a show and you're there for like two
months at a time. So we would come back and
forth for a couple of months at a time, but
it was it was a lot of back and forth
to Arizona and California. And then eventually my dad was
able to move his company to California and we kind
of all when I was in my sixteen probably, i'd
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say then he was able to work out of California
full time. You move out to California, you start going
to auditions during pilot season. What was the first thing
you booked that was life changing? It was called The Pits.
So it was the first series regular that when you
get a series regular thing, I'm sure you know that
this is a huge deal. And Sarah would tell you
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to like that's every actor's goal is like series regular,
Like that's our dream is to get series regular on
a show. That's the that's what you do it for.
You get out here to get a series regular gig.
And so I was thirteen and it was the creators
of The Simpsons, Mike Scully and Julie Packer Scullier are
executive producers of the Simpsons. And it was like a
live action Simpsons. It was just crazy stuff for Fox
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and it only went a season. But um, when I
booked that, that's when I was like that that changed
everything for me because the second you're a series regular
on the show, you just you're at a certain level
then and you you've set the bar and you kind
of you you everyone looks at you a certain way
when you have that. And so I got that, and
then the next season I got another series regular, which
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was The Method and Red Show, and then shortly thereafter
it was Wizards Way from the Place. So the Pits
is what changed at all for me. That was another
one where I was just I think they liked me
because I was just like a normal kid, like I
very much brought normal energy to the roles and it
wasn't very like robotic. Um. So yeah, that it was
the Pits. There's a theme here, like with the Burger
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King audition, and this is is the theme, Like just
be that's the takeaway. I haven't been able to say
it's so site, but that is the takeaway and I
need to reflect on later in life. Just be normal.
I love it. Wait, but were you on That's so
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Raven as well? Yeah. Yeah, So in between the those shows,
I was doing Method and Red. I would go do that,
so Raven and they loved me because they were big
fans of Method and Red and so it was like
it was just a nice cyclical thing to be able
to do an adult show and then a kids show
that was super fun. I was so nervous to be
around Raven because I like idolized her and she still
(30:30):
this week this, So it was a great That was
a great experience. Okay, so you you book Waszard the
Waverley Place. I assume you're one or two in the
call sheet. This is a huge deal. Are you going
to school or do you just do this show? So
it's homeschooled on set, so you have to do a
minimum of like three hours a day on set. So
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I went to public school from kindergarten to seventh grade,
and then a kindergarten eighth grade, which public school, and
then I started getting on all these shows. So that's
when homeschooling kicked in and they would give you a
tutor on set. So I actually learned a lot from
that experience, like having the one on one teaching was
actually very beneficial um to me, and I had made
lots of friends in the meantime. So it was good.
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But I stopped at about seventeen. At sixteen or seventeen,
I passed all my high school classes. I just studied
to pass the test and so then I didn't have
to go to school and set all right. So then
you know, you you book Wizards of Waverley Place. The
show runs for I mean, I don't know, a bunch
of years. Yeah, a hundred some episodes. Yeah, that's crazy. Like,
so what is your film schedule? Like, is it once
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a week that you are doing the show? Is it multiicam?
Is it in front of a live audience? Yeah, it's
it's multi caam in front of an audience. And the
work week was basically three days of rehearsal, a day
of pre shooting with like green screen or big effects,
and then one day live in front of the audience,
which was awesome. It was the best experience ever to
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get the benefit of the of a play. You know,
where you're adding, you're feeling the vibe of the audience, um,
but also have multiple takes which you don't have when
you're doing it, you know, play or a show. It
was awesome. So the show runs for a lot of
whatever you said over a hundred episodes, what happens once
it ends. When it ends, we all cry. And it
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was very sad, you know, because it was like our
high school. We're all teens when we were making the show,
and when we finished, it was like, yeah, we just
spent five years together and now we're now we're all
moving on, we're all going to new places. And when
it ended, I really made a shift to want to
start to produce and to do my own kind of
control my own content. Like I got into this business,
as I just told you, like wanting to make an
(32:39):
impact and like make people laugh or smile or give
them good, good, good projects, and I just wasn't seeing
a lot of stuff that really motivated me as a person,
like I wanted to. I wanted to be more involved.
I wanted I just wanted to be involved in the
right kind of projects that make me feel good and
that I think can make a difference. And so I
kind of shifted to more producing and writing after the
(33:02):
TV show and form my own company, and now now
we're doing side of a TV show on on Netflix
and producing which we make an announcement on in a
couple of months. So I can't talk too much about that,
but I'm excited about that. That's gonna be a fun
one for people to see. And uh in this movie
and then some a bunch of other stuff behind it.
So I kind of went behind the scenes more but
(33:23):
still doing acting, but being kind of selective with the
projects that that I'm I'm acting it. It's always interesting
for me to meet really really successful people, and I
always try to like figure out, like what the if
you just boil it down, like what it is. I
think that like the common denominator of a lot of
successful people is having you know, as many irons in
(33:44):
the fire as possible, because you don't really know what's
going to hit, right you getting that burg King commercial
might not have ever happened. But you also can fall
back on writing and directing and producing and all the
kind of that kind of stuff. I think that that
is a smart takeaway for all of the listeners out
there looking to be successful, because you never know what
the thing is going to be that makes you successful. Yeah,
(34:06):
diversify yourself and and and try to have try to
control your future. Ultimately, that was a big thing for me,
was you don't know what's gonna pop, you know, you
have to be able to to split your time to
focus on the things you need to focus on, but
just be efficient with your time and have a have
a couple options, you know, because when that thing hits
you want to be able to jump on it. And
(34:26):
do you have advice for people out there that you know,
whatever is they want to be successful and doesn't have
to be you know, Hollywood. It could be a lawyer
or whatever, but as someone who's successful, like, what is
like the one thing because I imagine this happens to you,
because it happens to me a lot, which is funny
because I'm like just stupid radio guy. But you'll come
across people and they'll be like, what's the secret, And
(34:47):
I'm always like, I don't know. Wait, tables and work
as hard as you can, you know, Like that's that's
always like my advice, Like what is your advice? When
people come up and ask that those questions to you
kind of building on what on your question? A lot
of kids come up to me and they say, hey,
I want to be a famous actor. What advice do
you have for me? And to kind of dovetail into
what into your question? My response is always you should
(35:10):
do what you're good at and work hard at that thing,
and that we're all good at different things. Like I
believe everyone has something that they're for lack of better words,
made for, or that they're disposed to in a way.
So figure out what that thing is. To me, that's
like the most important thing, Like figure out what makes
you uniquely you, and that will have an outlet, Like
(35:33):
you know, you have an incredible personality and affable, friendly,
Look what you're doing right now, This is an easy conversation.
This is incredible. You have a talent and a skill
that you're great at that no one else can do
like you do. And everyone has that whatever that thing is,
and it doesn't need to be an actor like you
were saying. It can be a lawyer, can be that,
it can be it can be a janitor, it can
(35:53):
be anything. As long as whatever that thing is, you
figure it out. That's like the key is figure it out.
And the to figure it out is you just kind
of look at what you're naturally inclined to and what
you're naturally good at. People around you will tell you, oh,
you're you know, you'll hear common denominators and friends or
family or people around you saying you've got a great personality.
You should try X, Y and Z, or you man,
(36:15):
you're really hard worker, you should try this or that, Like,
figure out what you're good at, because I think that's
what will make someone happy. Whatever your skill is or
your thing is. If you're doing that on a regular
basis and that's your job, how can you not be
happy doing doing that thing. It's meaningful to you and
it will be meaningful to to others. So and especially
people are like, oh, I want to be an actor,
(36:37):
trying to kindly always pump the brakes and say, well, look,
you know it's not for everyone. You know, like you
should if you have that talent, then go work hard
at it, get get classes, and go see if you're
actually good, because a lot of people take classes and
some people are not very good. You know. Like as
much as I would want to be a basketball player,
I suck. You know, it's just not gonna happen. I
can do it for fun, and that can be a
(36:58):
great hobby for me, but I I would have a
very lonely life if I try to be a professional
basketball player and is never gonna happen. So my advice
is always that's like a long winded way of saying like,
figure out who you are and then work hard at
that thing, which is kind of what you were saying
as well. Yeah, I've also heard that like I want
to be famous thing a lot, and if that's your
(37:21):
driving force, it's, first of all, it's never gonna happen.
So that's just not how it works. You know, you can't.
You can't like manifest fame. I get now, you can't.
I just don't think you can. And also like you're
doing it, going into it for the such the wrong reasons.
You should do it because you know you want to
be an artist and you want to make good ship,
not because you want to walk on red carpets and
(37:43):
sleep with supermodel or something. You know, Like that's just
not and you're gonna it's You're gonna be unhappy because
that it's so fleeting. It's so fleeting even if you
were to somehow get it, like it's here today, gone tomorrow.
It's it's such the wrong reasons. You're you're building on sand.
It's going to be a miserable life. You want, David,
it's been so much fun chatting with you, getting to
know you a little bit better. I'm really excited for
(38:06):
this film. Everyone out there should be as well. It's
called this is the Year. Buy tickets right now for
this is the year. This is the year dot film.
Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you
wish I would have asked you during this interview. No, no,
not at all. You hit on all of it. I
just want to mention again that this is a COVID benefit,
So every dollar will go on every ticket purchase to
(38:27):
COVID Relief, which is which is super important to us,
the COVID plus one nineteen Relief Fund. And also to
thank my recognize my partners at Bold Entertainment who built
this platform. Like what we're doing is there's no other
there's no precedent for it. We can't point and be
like they did a live premier event and it did X,
Y and Z and was successful. Like these guys are
taking a huge gamble because they bet on people and
(38:48):
they believe in in being disruptive. So I just wanted
to recognize and thank them. Yeah, it's a cool thing
happening on August, so mark your calendars. You and Selina
Gomez are gonna be there for this virtual movie premiere,
So you're gonna be talking about the film I assumed beforehand,
answering questions and stuff, which is just such an in Like,
(39:09):
if you're a fan of was there was a Waverley
Place or whatever, this might be your opportunity to like
actually converse with you guys, which is so cool. Yeah, absolutely,
it'll bring it. If you're a fan of which is
whatever the place, you might want to bring a Kleenex
because there'll be tears of nostalgia. Yeah. Well, before I
let you go, I wanted to do some rapid fire questions.
(39:29):
You down, Yes, Let's do it all right, man? This
has been so much fun. Rapid fire questions with David
Henry starting right now. What is your favorite pizza topic?
Meat lovers all meat? Who's your first kiss? Uh? Eighth grade?
Mr Alex was her name. She would be so devastated
(39:50):
if you didn't remember that. I'm not saying her last
name is just to protect her, but there was someone
named Alex and night great. Well, was the first concert
you went to? Blink one two was the most awkward
experience of my life because I walked in I was
nine years old. My parents were with me, and then
a girl took her top off next to me, and
I immediately was turned around and walked right out my mom.
My mom grabbed me and was like, we're out of here.
(40:10):
Was it Alex, No, it's not Alex. I don't know
what's your biggest pet peeves. My biggest pet peeven is
when anyone does the dish washer and they put the
knives in sharp set up. That's a good one. Actually,
who did you call to get you out of jail?
My father? When you in an oscar? Who will be
the first person you think during your speech? My mother?
(40:30):
Did you ever have a poster hanging in your wall?
Probably a dragon ball Z poster. I can't remember if
it was my first, but dragon ball Z so nerdy
and so cool at the same time. I have Goku shoes.
They're superhero Spider Man. If superheroes were real and you
could have a superpower, what would it be. I would
want to fly just quickly to just avoid um traffic?
(40:54):
So l a, yeah, the worst traffic. Favorite movies of
all time, fairy movie of all time, It's probably Casablanca,
and then um life is beautiful. Oh, I'm sorry, we're
looking for This is the year which is coming out
on August like that. I like that. David Henry, thank
(41:17):
you so much for being on the Wells cast. Dude,
you rock. Um when this is all, when the pandemic
is over and everything, please let's all hang out and
you know, actually I would love that. I would love that.
And again, congrats to you and Sarah on all that.
And Teller said, hello, Hi, will Man, thanks so much, brother,
Thank you very much. Have a great rest of your day.
Man to better. Dude, thank you, bro. What a nice guy. Also,
(41:39):
how freaking talented actor? Check director? Check? Writer? Did it
when I was sixteen? Whatever? Check producer? Yeah, why not?
Really good guitar player. We didn't even talk about his music,
but check making out with Chicks in the eighth grade,
Alex says, Check, David Henry is super talented guy, really
(41:59):
hard worker, obviously really cool show. I really enjoyed that
entire conversation. Um. I was looking at some reviews over
on like the Ample store and stuff, and for the
most part, everyone's like really really positive. But I realized that,
like I don't talk about like asking you guys to
give reviews and stuff, but it does help with the
algorithm of more people listening to it and being familiar
(42:23):
with this show. I mean, aside from like I would
love it. If you do like the show. If you don't,
I don't, then don't worry about it. But if you
do love the show, tell your friends about it, because
then more people listen and then we can get like
even bigger guests like David like on the show, and
then I made more money, which is also important. But
also the rating and reviewing the show is super helpful
and that helps with the algorithm of getting more people
(42:45):
to listen to the show. So if you do like
the show, if you don't, don't go give it a
bad review. Actually, but if you do love it, go
give it the five stars or however many stars do
you think you deem worthy. And then also I'd love
to hear what your thoughts are, so you can leave
messages there and and reviews there and I will read
them and acknowledge them on the show. Okay, anyways, I
want to get out of here. I'm gonna make a
(43:06):
sandwich because I'm hungry, and that's about it. I love
you guys so much. Okay. Bye. Subscribe to Wells cast
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This is the Wells Cast with Wells Adams and I
Heart Radio, podcast Time for the Wales CASTA and Reality
TV right now is just killing me. Sarah got me
(00:22):
on selling Sunset. You know it's funny. You know. The
original iteration of this show was the Prodcast with Stephanie Pratt,
who was on a show called The Hills and selling Sunset.
I believe the creator of the Hills also started selling Sunset.
And I have to be honest with you, I absolutely
hate that show. But I also can't look away. You know,
(00:44):
It's one of those things. I'm just rubber neck in
this show the entire time, Like everyone's a vapid, terrible person.
But I also who's using this real estate agency? Can
you imagine being mayor and walking in to that real
estate company with your wife your wife and be like, well,
(01:05):
all right, turning around now, this is the Hooters of
real estate agencies. Everyone just a hot chick, And it
just goes to show you how stupid men are. Not
that all those women aren't like completely capable real estate agents.
I'm sure they are. I'm sure they're great. They're making
a ton of money. Guys are like hot. Okay, oh,
(01:29):
oh you have long legs, pretty hair. Here's my checking account,
the last four of my social of my mother's maiden name.
It's not an indictment on the women that work there,
it's an indictment on how stupid men are that they will.
Literally we're just completely compelled to do whatever beautiful women
want us to do. It's quite sad, actually embarrassed to
(01:52):
be a man, but it's true. It shows good though.
But I also just don't think anyone's like going to
them really to buy real estate. I saw like the
one at so with Karamo on and I'm like, you're
not buying this house. You promote your thing queer eye,
and like whatever your other beside businesses, you're not gonna
buy this house. But then the other one, Oh my god, Guys,
Love on the Spectrum, I'm gonna go ahead and say
(02:14):
something that I don't know if you're going to agree with,
but whatever, I'll say this best reality television show that's
ever been made. If you haven't seen Love on the Spectrum,
you need to watch it. It's a reality dating show
about people who are on the autism spectrum and they
find it hard to date because they have social issues
and developmental issues. But it's so interesting because they're so direct.
(02:38):
It's almost like you wish that people who weren't autistic
were more like this, because then the dating world would
be so much easier. Hey, Mark, would you would you
date someone who doesn't like dinosaurs? And He's like, no, No,
I would not. I would not compromise, you know, And
I love that. I'm like, man, what wouldn't I compromise for?
You know? Like, what are my things? And I'm like, no,
(02:59):
hard pass, line in the sand, dying on this hill,
No way. If you want a feel good show, it's
gonna make you laugh and make you cry. Dude, watch
Love on the Spectrum. It's on Netflix or whatever. It's
so good. I can't tell you enough how much I
think that show is super rat. Speaking of rad shows,
you guys remember Wizards of Waverley Place. Of course you'd do.
(03:22):
It was a stable for a lot of millennials and
Jen Zars gen Xpers. I don't even know I think
Jen z ears. Yeah, Well, today on the show where
you're going to have someone from Wizards of Waverley Place,
a kid that started acting at the age of five,
doing local commercials, modeling and was making his own movies,
(03:43):
writing his own skits. At the age of twelve, booked
a role on a show called The Pits, what was
on a little show called That's So Raven. Also worked
on n c I S Judging, Amy House, Cold Case,
How I Met Your Mother, and then of course a
leading role on Wizards of Waverley Place that ran for
over a hundred episodes to this day, the youngest and
(04:04):
only actor on a Disney show to right an episode
at like seventeen years old. Yeah, he's a great actress,
probably what you know him for. But he's really diving
into the behind the scenes stuff, director role, writer role,
and coming up in just a couple of days, he's
got a new movie out that he produced with his
good friends Selina Gomez. Oh, by the way, he also
(04:26):
accident he directed it. He also had a handwriting it.
There's literally nothing that this kid can't do. So coming
up on the Wells Cast an episode that is just
so cool stick around. David Henry is on the Wells Cast.
(04:53):
All right, welcome in to the Wells Cast. Very excited
to have the man the Myth of the Legends, David
Henry on the show How are You a Man? I
am good. I'm good. Thank you very much for having me.
Grateful to be here on the show. Dude, you were
a part of one of the most iconic y A
shows ever, right, you know it's crazy, man, which day
really place has gone to the whole world. And when
(05:17):
you're making the show, you have no idea you know
what the response is going to be. You have no
clue how it's going to be received. And it's even
more meaningful now people come up to me, they're like,
you were my childhood. You didn't expect that going into
the show, but it's so nice to hear that. You
put a smile on someone's face and you know you're
you're a warm feeling for people. I'm just grateful and humbled,
and you know, it's a nice feeling. I mean, yeah,
(05:39):
you started this really early and you did a couple
of project I was rooting up on you. You did
a couple of projects kind of before the show. But
then you get on this gigantic juggernaut of the show.
At that age, did you have any idea like what
the hell was going on? Did you have perspective on
what was unfolding on a TV? You know, not really
(06:03):
I was not prepared for it at all. I had
been acting since I was little, and I always wanted
to do a Disney Channel show to get to actually
act with people my age. I had always done adult
shows like n C I S and just a bunch
of more adult judging amy and without a trace like
adult stuff, so I never got to act with kids.
I like loved Lizzie McGuire and even Stevens, and I
knew those were big hits, but no, there was no
(06:25):
amount of preparation that could happen for the show, and
just you know, it's skyrocketed. Man, It's skyrocketed, and it
was It was fun to be a part of. Did
you have any idea like what type of entertainer Selena
was going to become? Back then, we had some thought
because Miley Syrus had blown up from Hannah Montana and
(06:46):
she kind of became the first real huge triple that
threat of like actress, singer, dancer, um than movie star like,
so she had come up before us, so we knew
it was possible, but we didn't know what was gonna
happen with Selena. Uh and even in the early on
she wasn't singing like in the first season, but then
she started to so, um, we're just it's it's no
(07:08):
surprise in in you know, looking back on it, what happened.
But at the time we didn't really know what was
going to happen. We knew they had special plans for her,
we didn't know how big, and in fact, she wasn't
even in the pilot. The the original um pilot was
was was very different than what you've seen now. UM,
so it wasn't like always a starring vehicle for her.
(07:28):
They totally changed a show to what we see now
and then it became a big vehicle for her and
then took off. So it's no surprise of what happened.
Speaking of Selena, you guys teamed back up to produce
a film together your I guess acting in it. She's not,
but she's epeeing in it. The movie is called This
is the Year. I don't understand what a virtual movie premiere?
(07:51):
What does that mean? It's a lot of words. So
this was something, you know, necessity is the mother of
all invention, And we had a theatrical release for the
film plan and when COVID had and we obviously lost
that and we didn't want to give up and be like,
we're waiting until two when it's safe the you know,
release a movie. So we said, let's do something different.
Let's let's take a pay per view model, a live
(08:12):
pay per view model, where you bring someone an experience live,
and let's welcome fans to to join us in that effort.
So basically, we said, let's have a live premiere. You
know you've been to premieres. I've been to premieeres. So
many people haven't. We're very lucky by way of our
work to get to go to a very exclusive thing.
Let's make the premiere atmosphere live direct a consumer and
(08:35):
have fans come experience it with us. So we'll do
a live Q and a before and after the film
where we'll welcome fans. Um a performance by Lovely the
band they'll do, you know, multi platinum artists. They'll do
a live performance for us, and UM, let's just give
him a live, fun, feel good experience. People want to
feel good right now. People are trapped indoors for noble
reasons obviously, but um, they want to feel good and
(08:58):
this is a feel good movie. Uh. Selina and I
are going to be on camera again for the first
time in eight years, so that'll be nostalgic and feel
good for people. And it all benefits COVID relief, which
is great. We're benefiting the Plus one UH COVID Relief Fund,
which will do some good. So it's kind of like
a one time only win win live event with all
of us where we watched the movie and have fun
(09:20):
together on on a zoom. Is this the new normal
going forward? Like, are you guys the first but not
the last? Well, we'll definitely be the case study, that's
for sure. This is the first that someone's done this. Obviously,
bands have done live events, especially when COVID hit and
have been very successful with that. Comedie stand up comedians
have done live events which have been very successful. So
(09:41):
I think it's a natural progression for people with films
sitting on a shelf to be like, I need to
do something with this. I need to do something a
way to you know, get my film out there. And
so we're definitely the case study. A lot of people
are talking about it, and um, I don't think it
could be a bigger case study with the kind of
people we have involved. So we're we're hoping this could
be a new normal because it's disruptive. Man, this this
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doesn't interfere with any downstream acquisitions. This is like literally
a found uh you would producers would call it found
money because it's a a new way to get the
film to everyone and it doesn't impact the way you
would sell the film down the line. So it's it's
kind of a win win for everyone where there's a
charitable component. Um, we're getting the movie out there and
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it's feel good, like I hope people will be smiling
the whole time. Um, So it definitely will be a
bit disruptive and a new model for sure if it works. Yeah.
I was watching the video to promote the pay per
view deal that you and Selena were doing, and you
guys were talking about how like in this time you
really kind of do need a feel good moment because
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it's just so much it's swirling around us. Everyone go
to this is the year dot film to buy your
tickets and everything. I think it's such a cool idea
because then it really lets anybody from any like you
don't have to go to the Chinese theater to like
see this, Like anybody that and anywhere can go do
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it and be a part of it, which I think
is very very cool. You go and watch it, and
then what happens like so then like next week, is
it's streamable or are you waiting down the road to
then have like another theatrical release. How does that work correct? Yeah,
it's a great question. So yeah, we'll have this event
on the This Live Fun Experience, and then after that
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we are already talking to a lot of different partners
to give them the film, so they'll be a handoff
towards the end of the year. So this is like
our big splash moment. A lot of people are gonna
watch it with us, and then towards the end of
the year there'll be another moment where you can suddenly
watch the movie whenever you want at your leisure. But
this is the way to really help us get the
best person down the road to partner with to release
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the film. Well it's a cool idea. Now let's go
into what the story is about, because I don't know,
going back to like my high school and college days
of getting a bunch of idiots together and jumping in
a car and like going to a concert, and I
think that that's kind of like the idea of the
storyline right, Yeah, Yeah, it's a dude, it's a it's
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a class. I was a fan of like eighties coming
of age movies and just all coming of age movies
that it was the biggest fan of. Um they really
spoke to me, and so I wanted to kind of
harken back to those but do it in a more
modern way. So you'll feel some throwback vibes in the
film to those older movies. There's some homage moments, but
we wanted to do it with much more current themes
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and flip a out of the tropes that those movies
established on their head, especially with female characters and female friendship,
wanting to show authentic female friendship and not cattiness or competitiveness.
And our female writers say an awkwardly needed a great
job with that. So there's a lot of empowering messaging
behind the film, and it does have a lot of
the fun you were talking about. It is a road
trip film. They are seeing an awesome band, lovely the
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band perform, but there are some deeper conversations had along
the way and deeper realizations. There's a love triangle thing
that happens. It's a it's a classic story kind of
updated and told from a directing point of view in
an interesting way. Like you know, no one's going to
reinvent the wheel when it comes to like love triangles
like those have always worked since the beginning of time.
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It's something we all know, we're all familiar with. You
gotta probably guess the ending, But it's about how you
get there and the fun you have along the way,
and kind of how it's told. So I embraced all
of those classic themes and kind of just updated it
and and worked really hard to tell it in a
visually interesting way so it keeps the story moving. So
it kind of has some Edgar Right vibes at times, um,
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but definitely has like some kind of wonderful eighties classic archetypes.
So you are embodying the ghost of John Hughes, then
zero doubt about that standing on the shoulders of a giants.
That's uh, that's what I'm trying to do. Wait, so
were you in it or are you directing it? So,
like what is your in it? Yeah? So I directed it,
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and um, I was one of the writers on it.
So I wrote it with Heppy Portillo, Um Santa Aqualine
and Bug Hall. So there's four of us who wrote it,
and then I directed it, and I played a small role,
up somewhat small role in the film. Okay, So I mean,
first of all, super awesome that you're diversifying, you know,
like your Hollywood mark on things and writing and producing
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and directing is dope. But if you and Selena are
working together, why the hell are you both in the
thing in the movie. Yeah, Selena and I have never
We've always just been good friends and we've never like
ever stepped in a professional realm except for our TV show,
and that because what's always been most important to us
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is our friendship and not ever doing anything to muddy that.
She had just been seeing the movie and giving me
advice for years as I went about writing it and
producing it, developing it, and then directing it. She was
always along every step of the way as a friend would,
and she was super supportive and gave me fantastic advice
all along the way, recommendations and tips, and so once
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you finally got to see the film, she was like, David,
I see so I love this genre. I see so
many teen coming of age movies and the message a
lot of times doesn't make me feel very good or
I think is very empowering, especially to women. And she
was like, in your movie did that and I want
young girls to see this message. I want to get
behind this film. So it was a very organic process
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to be like, well, you've kind of already been executive
producing this thing for you know, years now, why don't
why not make it official? Uh? And she was super
excited to get on board and it behind this. So
it was something that happened super organically. UM, and I
don't think could have happened any other way. So we're
we're We're excited. We're excited. Everyone out there, go get
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your tickets now. This is the year dot film is
where you go. I've just seen the trailer for it
and the promotional videos and it does look awesome. And
if it's anything like any of those, like you know,
my favorite eighties John Hughes coming of age films, that
I'm all about it, dude, So congratulations. I think that
one of the craziest stats that I learned about you
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whilst prepping for this was that you had written an
episode of Wizards of Waverley Place. You did it before
I think I even could read and write, like first
of all like, how did you even have the idea
to do that at such a young age, and then
also how are you able to like execute something like that?
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Thank you for bringing that up that this is like
how I kind of got in the business was writing
and directing. Like I was just a little Italian kid
in Arizona with a big family and no connections to
the industry. And when it was someone's birthday, I would
take a video camera and I learned that if you
hit stop and record at certain times, you could play
it back and it was like a movie. You could
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move to the camera and if I stopped it at
a certain time and move the angle, it would work seamlessly.
And so when it was someone's birthday, I would parody
them and I would give it to my family and
it made him laugh. In it. We'd be eaten pasta
and I played the video and people would laugh. And
that's kind of how I got into business, as I
was able to show that to my family and then
begged my parents to like call someone in Hollywood, even
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if it seemed like a scam, just to like get me,
get me an audition and opportunity something. And so I
was always writing from the time. I was eight nine
years old when I started acting, and when I got
on Wizards. From day one, I said, I want my
shot to write. I love writing. I want my shot.
And they said, well, we're not giving it to you
just because you're an actor. You need to go write
spec scripts and submit spec scripts for other shows. So
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I wrote a couple two and a half men spec
scripts and those were good enough to get me in
the writing room, and then I started pitching jokes, and
then I finally started getting scripts, and I wrote multiple
scripts for the show, and uh, it was It was
a dream come true. Really was a dream come true.
How old are you when you're doing this, seventeen or eighteen?
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I think I was seventeen. I was the only Disney
Channel actor that ever if that's been changed now, but
at the time, the only one to ever write for
a show. Um actually professionally, right for a show? I mean,
obviously you want to be like a five tool player, right,
You wanna be able to do everything. What do you
like doing the most? Is it acting? Is that writing?
Is that directing? Is that producing? Like? What's in your
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hierarchy of badasses? Are badasss? I'm gonna I'm gonna use
that one for sure after this directing. I really like directing.
I I it to me it's I'm such a visual guy.
I've gotten to write, and I've sold scripts and set
things up, and I've written enough to know that. I
it's so hard. It's so hard, and it has this
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such small reward because you can you spend. There's not
it's not a nine to five like you're there till
it works and then people come and shoot you down
and you rewrite it and you change it and then
you get notes and you there's no You are just
in this like floating world. Just do when you're crawling
to try to get it where it needs to be.
And it's so hard, and it's such a circular process.
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I'm with directing, there's more of a brackets around it,
like you can see it. It's tangible, you know what
you're doing, you're delivering, and um, I'm just more visual
of a person. I'm so happy I've written professional because
I understand how that relates to the directing process especially,
but um, I I love directing. It's where it all
comes to life. It's where you can actually start to
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move people's emotions and um, you can obviously you do
with writing as well, but we're in a visual medium.
So I love, I absolutely love directing. I've written enough
to know that I don't want to be a professional writer.
That's just fully full honest. I have so much respect
for writers, so much respect because it is so much
time they put into it that you don't see that's
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never accounted for it. That's what's I think probably the
most important job in the entire process, and the well
they deserve the most respect. And I come from the
radio world, and I mean I hosted c HR a
pop Showffet Devely for years in Nashville, and Lovely the
band was a band that I was very familiar with,
So I think it's awesome that you kind of like
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use them. I assume there's someone of a character in
this movie for you guys, I'm just curious, like, how
do you decide on what band you use? It was
like your friends with them, or like it would make
sense for the for the movie, or like they were
the cheapest in terms of getting them to do, Like
how does that work? Yeah, So to me, it was
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all about the ending of the film. I knew that
the ending of the film was going to be shot,
it would need to be like a dance. Like the
end of the film is like kind of an action sequence.
There's a lot of running, there's big set pieces, it's
it's a lot, and it's all to the final song.
So the band is like playing there a crescendo, playing
an epic song at the end of the concert, and
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that's where a lot of our action takes place at
the end of the film. So I knew that that
song was most important. I needed to find the perfect
song and had to have the right momentum and everything,
and we needed that before we shot the film, so
I could literally choreography to the song itself. I auditioned
a bunch of different songs of bands I was a
fan of, and lovely the band Maybe I'm Afraid was
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the perfect song. When I heard that song, I remember
I was I had it on my speakers in my house,
and the second I heard that, it just all came
to life to me, came to life in a real way,
and I was like, that's the song. We have to
get that. Coincidentally, the guitar player's father created Wizards of
Waverley Place completely coincidentally. I was like, this is the song,
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this is the band. Can we figure this out? We
gotta find this guy. And I got a call back
like shortly thereafter, and my music supervisor was like, you
are not gonna believe this, Like what like his dad
is Todd Greenwald created freaking Widges whatever the place. I
was like, perfect, We're gonna get him. Uh And it
was like a matchmate in heaven. They've been incredible to
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work with, so giving. Um they acted in the film too.
They did a good job. It was It really was great.
It was an awesome experience, truly, like the seven Degrees
of Kevin Bacon thing right there. I was like, yeah,
what's the seven degrees? That was nuts, man, I couldn't
believe that. It was nuts, nuts nuts. I'm excited to
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see this film. Everyone out there again. You can go
buy your tickets and be a part of the Virtual
movie premiere at this is the Year Dot film. I
don't know if anyone told you, but the kind of
the premise of this show is origin stories, and I
like to talk to my guests just kind of like
where they came from and how the hell they got here.
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So you know, when we come back from this break
can we talk about how the hell you got on
this show? And I love it? Let's do it? Yeah,
all right quick, right, we come back more on the
Wells Cast with David Henry. Al right back in the
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Wales cast. Got David Henry here on the show. Excited
about his new film called this is the year. You
can buy your tickets for this virtual movie premiere at
This is the year Dot Film. David directed it, you
had a hand in writing it. Selena is epeeing this thing.
You're in it a little bit, very very excited for
(23:22):
this thing. Everyone out there again, this is the year
Dot Films where you need to go get your virtual
movie from your tickets. But I want to get on
with the actual show, which is Origin Stories. I can't
wait to find out how the hell you got to
this place. You touched on it a little bit earlier
about you wanted to get into Hollywood and you were
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doing that by kind of like directing with old camcorders
and stuff. So tell everyone, like where you came from?
Great question. Um, I hail from Arizona, from the nice
hot desert of Arizona. Had no connection to the industry whatsoever,
didn't have a famous uncle or a dad who I
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don't know it was a producer or anything. I was
just a normal kid from Arizona who played ice hockey
believe it or not in the desert. And uh, I
had a big Italian family and my grandfather I had
still have a big telling them. My grandfather was kind
of like a class clown and super funny and always
inspired me to tell jokes and play the guitar and
tell jokes while playing the guitar. And when the first
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camcorders came out with a little flipout monitor, I figured
out how to make a movie on it and just
like press pause and record and move the camera around.
And I would make sketches and parody my family members
and parody my father especially. He was like a big
weightlifter in Arizona, so I would like stuck my shirt
with muscles and pretend I was him and just do
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do these goofy sketches that would make everyone laugh too.
Songs like bad to the Bone, and I just did
all sorts of silly things. I would do music videos,
like anytime fifty cent would drop a new song back then,
I would of course do my version of his music video.
And it was just silly stuff but really led to
my family saying, you know what, I think you have talent.
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We're going to try to find someone in Hollywood. And
I got in contact with something that seemed like a scam,
which was like a manager on the news or something
that represented kid actors and just cold called and they said, hey,
if you want to take a trip out to California
with your parents, we can say hi to you. You
can read a couple of lines, and so we went
to California. I auditioned and they said, you know what,
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you're great. We want to put you in front of
a Burger King commercial. There's a local casting for Burger
King National commercial, stopping before you get back on your
plane to go back to Arizona, and we'll see what happens.
And so I got to the audition and I remember
everyone there was like super trained kid actors, like they
knew what marks were, they knew like what the lighting was, like,
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they were like little robotic like like kids. And I
remember just being like whoa these kids are? Like where
like this is not normal kids? Like something's up here.
And so I just walked into the room with the
director and he had a hockey Jersey on a maple
leaves Jersey on and I started talking hockey with him
and I was just having shooting the breeze with him,
having a good time, and at the end of it
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he was like, all right, well, yeah, I think you
got the role. Um He's like, you just do that
on camera, right, And I was like, yeah, acting is great.
I love this world. And nine years old, I just
started working. I got that like several other commercials, then
started doing TV and then became serious regulars on some
Fox shows. One was like Method and Red with the
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rappers Method Man and Red Man. I was like this
fourteen year old kid, like in every episode with them,
hanging out, like chilling in the dressing your Method Man
and Red Man, fourteen year old white kid, like just
vibing with these guys. That was very coming of age.
And I just started working like crazy from there and
then got in Disney and uh, that's kind of the
long winded store origin story. Okay, so your parents, I
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guess I break down. They're like, Okay, we'll take we'll
go to l A and you'll do this burger King
commercial you book I guess you booked the Burger King commercial. Yeah,
And so you go back to Arizona. Are they like, uh,
you got your commercial, like that's done? Or are they like,
I guess now we gotta move to Hollywood? What were
the steps there? Absolutely? I was very fortunate to have
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a family that like very much didn't need me in
a sense of we're working for our kids or our
kids gonna be you know, we're gonna completely break down
our family for our child, which a lot of child
actors that happens where the parents suddenly works for the
kid and then you have a weird, tough, tough family dynamic,
which can cause issues later. I was very lucky to
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have a grounded family. So they were like, look, you're
a kid. What's most important is you being a kid.
If you're not happy for any moments with any of
this thing, you're out of there. But if you want
to keep going, we're behind you. Like we take you
to hockey practice, we'll take you to auditions. My mother
and I would fly back and forth a lot, and
then for like what's called pilot season. I'm sure you
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know what that is, but for your listeners who might not,
that's like this season where everyone comes to try to
get on a show and you're there for like two
months at a time. So we would come back and
forth for a couple of months at a time, but
it was it was a lot of back and forth
to Arizona and California. And then eventually my dad was
able to move his company to California and we kind
of all when I was in my sixteen probably, i'd
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say then he was able to work out of California
full time. You move out to California, you start going
to auditions during pilot season. What was the first thing
you booked that was life changing? It was called The Pits.
So it was the first series regular that when you
get a series regular thing, I'm sure you know that
this is a huge deal. And Sarah would tell you
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to like that's every actor's goal is like series regular,
Like that's our dream is to get series regular on
a show. That's the that's what you do it for.
You get out here to get a series regular gig.
And so I was thirteen and it was the creators
of The Simpsons, Mike Scully and Julie Packer Scullier are
executive producers of the Simpsons. And it was like a
live action Simpsons. It was just crazy stuff for Fox
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and it only went a season. But um, when I
booked that, that's when I was like that that changed
everything for me because the second you're a series regular
on the show, you just you're at a certain level
then and you you've set the bar and you kind
of you you everyone looks at you a certain way
when you have that. And so I got that, and
then the next season I got another series regular, which
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was The Method and Red Show, and then shortly thereafter
it was Wizards Way from the Place. So the Pits
is what changed at all for me. That was another
one where I was just I think they liked me
because I was just like a normal kid, like I
very much brought normal energy to the roles and it
wasn't very like robotic. Um. So yeah, that it was
the Pits. There's a theme here, like with the Burger
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King audition, and this is is the theme, Like just
be that's the takeaway. I haven't been able to say
it's so site, but that is the takeaway and I
need to reflect on later in life. Just be normal.
I love it. Wait, but were you on That's so
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Raven as well? Yeah. Yeah, So in between the those shows,
I was doing Method and Red. I would go do that,
so Raven and they loved me because they were big
fans of Method and Red and so it was like
it was just a nice cyclical thing to be able
to do an adult show and then a kids show
that was super fun. I was so nervous to be
around Raven because I like idolized her and she still
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this week this, So it was a great That was
a great experience. Okay, so you you book Waszard the
Waverley Place. I assume you're one or two in the
call sheet. This is a huge deal. Are you going
to school or do you just do this show? So
it's homeschooled on set, so you have to do a
minimum of like three hours a day on set. So
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I went to public school from kindergarten to seventh grade,
and then a kindergarten eighth grade, which public school, and
then I started getting on all these shows. So that's
when homeschooling kicked in and they would give you a
tutor on set. So I actually learned a lot from
that experience, like having the one on one teaching was
actually very beneficial um to me, and I had made
lots of friends in the meantime. So it was good.
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But I stopped at about seventeen. At sixteen or seventeen,
I passed all my high school classes. I just studied
to pass the test and so then I didn't have
to go to school and set all right. So then
you know, you you book Wizards of Waverley Place. The
show runs for I mean, I don't know, a bunch
of years. Yeah, a hundred some episodes. Yeah, that's crazy. Like,
so what is your film schedule? Like, is it once
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a week that you are doing the show? Is it multiicam?
Is it in front of a live audience? Yeah, it's
it's multi caam in front of an audience. And the
work week was basically three days of rehearsal, a day
of pre shooting with like green screen or big effects,
and then one day live in front of the audience,
which was awesome. It was the best experience ever to
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get the benefit of the of a play. You know,
where you're adding, you're feeling the vibe of the audience, um,
but also have multiple takes which you don't have when
you're doing it, you know, play or a show. It
was awesome. So the show runs for a lot of
whatever you said over a hundred episodes, what happens once
it ends. When it ends, we all cry. And it
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was very sad, you know, because it was like our
high school. We're all teens when we were making the show,
and when we finished, it was like, yeah, we just
spent five years together and now we're now we're all
moving on, we're all going to new places. And when
it ended, I really made a shift to want to
start to produce and to do my own kind of
control my own content. Like I got into this business,
as I just told you, like wanting to make an
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impact and like make people laugh or smile or give
them good, good, good projects, and I just wasn't seeing
a lot of stuff that really motivated me as a person,
like I wanted to. I wanted to be more involved.
I wanted I just wanted to be involved in the
right kind of projects that make me feel good and
that I think can make a difference. And so I
kind of shifted to more producing and writing after the
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TV show and form my own company, and now now
we're doing side of a TV show on on Netflix
and producing which we make an announcement on in a
couple of months. So I can't talk too much about that,
but I'm excited about that. That's gonna be a fun
one for people to see. And uh in this movie
and then some a bunch of other stuff behind it.
So I kind of went behind the scenes more but
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still doing acting, but being kind of selective with the
projects that that I'm I'm acting it. It's always interesting
for me to meet really really successful people, and I
always try to like figure out, like what the if
you just boil it down, like what it is. I
think that like the common denominator of a lot of
successful people is having you know, as many irons in
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the fire as possible, because you don't really know what's
going to hit, right you getting that burg King commercial
might not have ever happened. But you also can fall
back on writing and directing and producing and all the
kind of that kind of stuff. I think that that
is a smart takeaway for all of the listeners out
there looking to be successful, because you never know what
the thing is going to be that makes you successful. Yeah,
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diversify yourself and and and try to have try to
control your future. Ultimately, that was a big thing for me,
was you don't know what's gonna pop, you know, you
have to be able to to split your time to
focus on the things you need to focus on, but
just be efficient with your time and have a have
a couple options, you know, because when that thing hits
you want to be able to jump on it. And
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do you have advice for people out there that you know,
whatever is they want to be successful and doesn't have
to be you know, Hollywood. It could be a lawyer
or whatever, but as someone who's successful, like, what is
like the one thing because I imagine this happens to you,
because it happens to me a lot, which is funny
because I'm like just stupid radio guy. But you'll come
across people and they'll be like, what's the secret, And
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I'm always like, I don't know. Wait, tables and work
as hard as you can, you know, Like that's that's
always like my advice, Like what is your advice? When
people come up and ask that those questions to you
kind of building on what on your question? A lot
of kids come up to me and they say, hey,
I want to be a famous actor. What advice do
you have for me? And to kind of dovetail into
what into your question? My response is always you should
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do what you're good at and work hard at that thing,
and that we're all good at different things. Like I
believe everyone has something that they're for lack of better words,
made for, or that they're disposed to in a way.
So figure out what that thing is. To me, that's
like the most important thing, Like figure out what makes
you uniquely you, and that will have an outlet, Like
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you know, you have an incredible personality and affable, friendly,
Look what you're doing right now, This is an easy conversation.
This is incredible. You have a talent and a skill
that you're great at that no one else can do
like you do. And everyone has that whatever that thing is,
and it doesn't need to be an actor like you
were saying. It can be a lawyer, can be that,
it can be it can be a janitor, it can
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be anything. As long as whatever that thing is, you
figure it out. That's like the key is figure it out.
And the to figure it out is you just kind
of look at what you're naturally inclined to and what
you're naturally good at. People around you will tell you, oh,
you're you know, you'll hear common denominators and friends or
family or people around you saying you've got a great personality.
You should try X, Y and Z, or you man,
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you're really hard worker, you should try this or that, Like,
figure out what you're good at, because I think that's
what will make someone happy. Whatever your skill is or
your thing is. If you're doing that on a regular
basis and that's your job, how can you not be
happy doing doing that thing. It's meaningful to you and
it will be meaningful to to others. So and especially
people are like, oh, I want to be an actor,
(36:37):
trying to kindly always pump the brakes and say, well, look,
you know it's not for everyone. You know, like you
should if you have that talent, then go work hard
at it, get get classes, and go see if you're
actually good, because a lot of people take classes and
some people are not very good. You know. Like as
much as I would want to be a basketball player,
I suck. You know, it's just not gonna happen. I
can do it for fun, and that can be a
(36:58):
great hobby for me, but I I would have a
very lonely life if I try to be a professional
basketball player and is never gonna happen. So my advice
is always that's like a long winded way of saying like,
figure out who you are and then work hard at
that thing, which is kind of what you were saying
as well. Yeah, I've also heard that like I want
to be famous thing a lot, and if that's your
(37:21):
driving force, it's, first of all, it's never gonna happen.
So that's just not how it works. You know, you can't.
You can't like manifest fame. I get now, you can't.
I just don't think you can. And also like you're
doing it, going into it for the such the wrong reasons.
You should do it because you know you want to
be an artist and you want to make good ship,
not because you want to walk on red carpets and
(37:43):
sleep with supermodel or something. You know, Like that's just
not and you're gonna it's You're gonna be unhappy because
that it's so fleeting. It's so fleeting even if you
were to somehow get it, like it's here today, gone tomorrow.
It's it's such the wrong reasons. You're you're building on sand.
It's going to be a miserable life. You want, David,
it's been so much fun chatting with you, getting to
know you a little bit better. I'm really excited for
(38:06):
this film. Everyone out there should be as well. It's
called this is the Year. Buy tickets right now for
this is the year. This is the year dot film.
Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you
wish I would have asked you during this interview. No, no,
not at all. You hit on all of it. I
just want to mention again that this is a COVID benefit,
So every dollar will go on every ticket purchase to
(38:27):
COVID Relief, which is which is super important to us,
the COVID plus one nineteen Relief Fund. And also to
thank my recognize my partners at Bold Entertainment who built
this platform. Like what we're doing is there's no other
there's no precedent for it. We can't point and be
like they did a live premier event and it did X,
Y and Z and was successful. Like these guys are
taking a huge gamble because they bet on people and
(38:48):
they believe in in being disruptive. So I just wanted
to recognize and thank them. Yeah, it's a cool thing
happening on August, so mark your calendars. You and Selina
Gomez are gonna be there for this virtual movie premiere,
So you're gonna be talking about the film I assumed beforehand,
answering questions and stuff, which is just such an in Like,
(39:09):
if you're a fan of was there was a Waverley
Place or whatever, this might be your opportunity to like
actually converse with you guys, which is so cool. Yeah, absolutely,
it'll bring it. If you're a fan of which is
whatever the place, you might want to bring a Kleenex
because there'll be tears of nostalgia. Yeah. Well, before I
let you go, I wanted to do some rapid fire questions.
(39:29):
You down, Yes, Let's do it all right, man? This
has been so much fun. Rapid fire questions with David
Henry starting right now. What is your favorite pizza topic?
Meat lovers all meat? Who's your first kiss? Uh? Eighth grade?
Mr Alex was her name. She would be so devastated
(39:50):
if you didn't remember that. I'm not saying her last
name is just to protect her, but there was someone
named Alex and night great. Well, was the first concert
you went to? Blink one two was the most awkward
experience of my life because I walked in I was
nine years old. My parents were with me, and then
a girl took her top off next to me, and
I immediately was turned around and walked right out my mom.
My mom grabbed me and was like, we're out of here.
(40:10):
Was it Alex, No, it's not Alex. I don't know
what's your biggest pet peeves. My biggest pet peeven is
when anyone does the dish washer and they put the
knives in sharp set up. That's a good one. Actually,
who did you call to get you out of jail?
My father? When you in an oscar? Who will be
the first person you think during your speech? My mother?
(40:30):
Did you ever have a poster hanging in your wall?
Probably a dragon ball Z poster. I can't remember if
it was my first, but dragon ball Z so nerdy
and so cool at the same time. I have Goku shoes.
They're superhero Spider Man. If superheroes were real and you
could have a superpower, what would it be. I would
want to fly just quickly to just avoid um traffic?
(40:54):
So l a, yeah, the worst traffic. Favorite movies of
all time, fairy movie of all time, It's probably Casablanca,
and then um life is beautiful. Oh, I'm sorry, we're
looking for This is the year which is coming out
on August like that. I like that. David Henry, thank
(41:17):
you so much for being on the Wells cast. Dude,
you rock. Um when this is all, when the pandemic
is over and everything, please let's all hang out and
you know, actually I would love that. I would love that.
And again, congrats to you and Sarah on all that.
And Teller said, hello, Hi, will Man, thanks so much, brother,
Thank you very much. Have a great rest of your day.
Man to better. Dude, thank you, bro. What a nice guy. Also,
(41:39):
how freaking talented actor? Check director? Check? Writer? Did it
when I was sixteen? Whatever? Check producer? Yeah, why not?
Really good guitar player. We didn't even talk about his music,
but check making out with Chicks in the eighth grade,
Alex says, Check, David Henry is super talented guy, really
(41:59):
hard worker, obviously really cool show. I really enjoyed that
entire conversation. Um. I was looking at some reviews over
on like the Ample store and stuff, and for the
most part, everyone's like really really positive. But I realized that,
like I don't talk about like asking you guys to
give reviews and stuff, but it does help with the
algorithm of more people listening to it and being familiar
(42:23):
with this show. I mean, aside from like I would
love it. If you do like the show. If you don't,
I don't, then don't worry about it. But if you
do love the show, tell your friends about it, because
then more people listen and then we can get like
even bigger guests like David like on the show, and
then I made more money, which is also important. But
also the rating and reviewing the show is super helpful
and that helps with the algorithm of getting more people
(42:45):
to listen to the show. So if you do like
the show, if you don't, don't go give it a
bad review. Actually, but if you do love it, go
give it the five stars or however many stars do
you think you deem worthy. And then also I'd love
to hear what your thoughts are, so you can leave
messages there and and reviews there and I will read
them and acknowledge them on the show. Okay, anyways, I
want to get out of here. I'm gonna make a
(43:06):
sandwich because I'm hungry, and that's about it. I love
you guys so much. Okay. Bye. Subscribe to Wells cast
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