September 25, 2025 • 49 mins
Kyle has a heart-to-heart with his on-screen biological son – comedian, writer, actor, podcast host, and producer Benito Skinner aka Benny Drama – to unpack what it’s like working together and growing up in the Northwest, ideas for the second season of Overcompensating, and how Benny created the original characters and viral celebrity impersonations that jumpstarted his career. Don’t miss father and son reveal who and what inspired them to pursue acting, how they get into character, and a custom segment that requires eyewear.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm here with Daddy. Ah, Daddy's looking good. You're my hero.
I didn't know you were a dick yet, very similar
to golf we did. This is my fourth Well, it's
my fleabag camera. I can't really wake up before seven
unless it's for overcompensating.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And you have some exciting news about that we're doing
season two.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Like are you thick?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Like your son's gay? And did I say? Why do
you watch it? Yeah? I've been thinking about the Oregon
coast a lot lately. The dogs become really important. I
think little Bob, well, any excuse to wear away? That's
the face of Balnciaga. Do you guys get that? Hey,
he's no chain toogal now. But we shouldn't be allowed
to podcast, No, we shouldn't. What do we even do?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What are we even doing? By the way, ladies and gentlemen,
this is what are we even doing? And we're here
with Benny Drama. I'm here with Daddy Oh, and we
just start some really really good news we're going to
get to so, as you know, we are interviewing actors,
creators all type about their world, their creative world, how
they use social media, what's happening we get weird together
in a good way, and today we have it. I'm
(01:02):
going to do a proper introduction brilliant comedian, writer, actor,
podcast host Idaho.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And oh yeah before acting of course they do, of course,
and my on.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Screen biological song yes blood relative. Yeah, almost only because
you're from Bois and I'm from Yakama.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, and we can talk about the relations somewhere. There
is definitely a cross over there.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I am happy, happy, happy to be here with you. You're
my hero, pleas your bless your heart.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So we do podcasts together a lot. This is kind
of our thing now.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I think it could be because we did the one
for a twenty four Yeah, explosive and talk to Yeah,
yeah it was. It was fantastic. Yeah, talking about overcompensating
so fun. And you have some exciting news about that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I do, and I think we can share. Yeah, we're
doing season two. We're going back. We're going back.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
There's one hundred people here. Yeah, yes, the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm so excited because I started to tell you a
few things I wanted us to do, but I was
just saying, like, you don't want to fall in love
too much with storylines and stuff. I'm like, please just
let this happen. So now I'm just like, I'm a
nightmare to have dinner with right now, because I'll just
literally in the middle of a story. I'll be like,
so then Carmen's trying to get Benny's skinny jeans off, right,
and they're just like cool, you like you're not here.
(02:19):
It's like you're already writing, You're in the writer You're
already working it. Are you going to stay here and
do the writer's room here in La Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
we do. I think we're gonna do a little bit
in New York. A few of the writers are there,
Wally and Mary Beth are doing the room with me
as well, so which would be so fun. But we
do it on zoom, you know, which works. Yeah, so
we kind of I think we're going to do a
(02:39):
mix of in person in zoom this time. Last time
it was just zoom, which I think was good for
me because I had never done a room before, so
I was like I needed something to, you know, fidget
with things. Yeah, so nervous, and I was with like
peers and people I've like looked up to, and yeah,
you just get so.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You've seemed to be like you handled yourself really really well.
I mean, and that's of course watching you during the
filming when I was there, and just how you handle
everything and just you know, like a pro.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That is so nice to hear you say that, because
when you came in, I have never been more nervous.
And the first thing we did was you and my
room changes, like where you put on my close and
I remember just being like, I had this really weird
moment where I find this all the time where it's
like hearing your voice is what really freaked me out.
The mom It's like hearing your voice and Connie's voice
(03:28):
they're actually here.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh yeah, and I just was mid And then also
I have the thing too where then I just start
to watch like it's so fun because you've.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Written the you know words, and now you get to
watch like cal McLaughlin's doing it, and I so yeah,
I'm kind of like sitting back. I was like, oh fuck,
I'm in the scene with him. Yeah. Let mean I
did that at the dinner.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Table scene to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You're like, yeah, oh yeah, I engage with you. Sorry, yeah,
but oh.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I love an audience and that was fun to the
dinner scene.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, what he had written was so perfect. I was
just like, oh, I'm gonna take this as far as
I can the.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Way you did. And I wrote that was Scott King
and that is one of those scenes. And he had
known Connie for so like they had worked together. Oh
I didn't know, Okay, okay, it was just like and
you were our dreamcast, so it was like we I
think that was one of the easiest things to edit.
Like that was one of those things where also the
first time I watched it was what is on screen?
Like it was just like that scene is so and
(04:28):
with the lights and we played with the light flickering
a lot and posted the one part I broke and
I'm so bad. I break in every scene, but with
the you.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Know, yeah, yeah, it's just like, I mean, that was
such a that was such a brilliant, brilliant idea. I
don't know, you know, you have these things and like experience.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I had so many friends parents who were all doing
in visil line at the same time, okay, and I
don't know why, but it was like I think maybe
for their kids weddings. They were all like, I'm getting
straight teeth, Like my parents did it and then Mary
Beth had done it randomly, and then her I think
maybe her mom had done it, like just an assortment
of parents. So I was like, let's give him envissile,
and I thought maybe I didn't. I mean, I assumed
(05:12):
you were the best. I didn't know you were a
dick yet. But I was just like, I think he'll
be down. And then right now day one in the trailer,
you were like trying on my enviscile.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes, I'm so excited. It's gonna how I'm going to talk?
It was good, just it just informs a character so
so much. Those little things that you lay in really
support the character.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
What you're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You know what I mean to take and just make
it very easy. So I was nervous at first day too.
I'm walking in, I'm like, I got to take my
shirt off now, and I'm like, okay, I'm a man
of a certain age.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
My daddy, Daddy's like, good, do the best he can.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
No, in the take, I should have gone ship dad, Yeah,
right that one mile up and down the block?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You ate that up?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh yeah, no I can't. We kind of threw you
into the deep end there, but fantastic. I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I love working with Connie. She is so I had
not worked there before.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean to kne who she was.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Of course, she has that rare quality where I can't
tell if she knows that she's funny or what she
just is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh, it's so, you know, It's like that is such
a perfect way of describing her, because it's I think
she you know, maybe in the back of her mind nose,
but I think there's something where she like knows she
has the power in the scene. Because I always felt
that I'm like she it doesn't feel like someone trying
to be seen by the camera in a way, and
I felt the same way with you. It's just like
(06:31):
it's there, which I think is a tendency in comedy,
is like I have to make sure the camera sees
the bit I'm doing, whereas I feel like in every
take with both of you, you were doing such different
things and that was so exciting to.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
See the interesting you say that because I think when
I first started, I was like much more aware of
the camera and much more aware of like matching things
and is catching everything. And then as I kind of
you know, went got older and went through things, I
was like, you know, what more and more. It's about
like trying not to show just the thing and not
even the cameras like it's gonna get what it's going
to get.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
The play of it, like watching both of you play. Yeah,
she has that crazy monologue out with the dogs, and
she also chow Chow puppies are not relaxed and they're
not particularly sweet, and sometimes the chow chow community is
going to come for me, you see my trauma from
having a podcast big. I'm like, I love chow Chow's,
by the way, but watching her do that, there was
(07:25):
no take that was similar. She just like and the
way she would riff. And also she has this line
where she's like, I didn't and it was one of
my favorite lines to write because it felt so like
what my mom would say. She's like, I didn't want
to do J jail because it would ruin it. I
didn't want to ruin it for me, so I did
J Crue factory And just her saying that she kind
of threw it away, and I was like, God, she's brilliant.
(07:46):
You're so smart.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, I want to ask you about growing up in
a small town in the Northwest. Yeah, because we share
that you're from Boise, Idaho. I'm from Yakama, Washington.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I think the two towns are very similar. Can Napoleon
was Napoleon died and it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Was it was in I think Rexburg, Idaho. Okay, yeah, okay,
but I've described it as this and and now everyone
around me is like, sure, I guess that makes kind
of sense. But we grew up with the sawtooth mountains
go through Voice beautiful, and so I every morning, like
at the end of my drive, like I could see
the mountains where we would ski in the winter, and
it helped me with direction. So everywhere I go, I know,
(08:25):
based on I find my mountain. Ye, yeah, I know
where I am. So nothing else in my personality would
make it seem like I'm good at directions, but I'm
actually good. And I think it's because of growing up
with a view that having.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think I agree with you, you know, reference exactly. Yeah, yeah, meane,
this is my wee b. We didn't have any mountains.
We could see the cascades so pretty, and we could
see some of the mountains like Mount Rain near Mount Adams.
We couldn't see Mount Saint Helen's, but there was a
few that we could see.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And so that's the way you.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Got your we got I got my remember where things are?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know Helen? But saw tooths are those are some beautiful. Yeah.
That's why I think sometimes people think Idaho flat or Midwest.
No hate to that, No, no, I love you. Yeah,
but it's the this is my fourth wall. It's my
flea bag camera right here, which is yours, yours. It's
just like, I'm like, it's so funny that you're thinking
of Idaho. It's like because to me, I'm like, it's mountains,
(09:18):
like mountains and Mount Saint Helen is so funny. My
grandparents flew over it five hours before it went off.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That's where that get here on the back, I know it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I grew up with crazy hearing about Mount Saint
Helens for so that was like, you know, that crazed
my family all golf, So we were like driving around. Yeah,
that's why I was always in Washington and and see
you golf.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Wa do we talk about this? So because I grew
up on the golf team in high school, I wasn't
I wasn't very all my siblings did I know.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I did football.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And then when I was in college I did radio
DJ so, but all my siblings played college golf very
similar to GOLFO well of course, well yeah, it's like
it's either if one doesn't work, you have Okay, golf
was tricky for me. I'm not patient.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah I well yeah, and also yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Like I remember I was doing it one morning and
I probably was like nine. This guy was keeping scoring.
He was like the dad of one of the kids
I was playing with, so like, I don't know, they
just all bothered me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I got
like it took me an eleven shots to get out
of the sand trap on this one hole, and then
I just by the end, I was just so fucking pissed.
And the guy to me was like, you know what's
great about golf is that you have the next hole
(10:28):
and it's just a total. It's just a wash, like
it's just all new. And I was like, yeah, that's
really cool. You're still going to count that fifteen I
shot on that last whole, right, yeah, And then I
was just like I shouldn't play this, like some of
my parents put me into track instead of spring. Oh
and I could, you could, and that would be yeah,
(10:48):
but that football and track.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, that was good. Was the classic sports. And of
course golf was not cool when I was when I
was in school, it was not cool.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
See it kind of got like I got my siblings,
it being kind of you know, is the Tiger Woods
of golf at that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Was when it was good, and now it's kind of
gone back, I think into some other.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I don't know what it is. I don't I don't
know if I'm allowed on courses anymore. But I love
taking a you know, whack at it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. Yeah, so that's high school. Did you do sports
in college Georgetown?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
No. I was the first of my family did not
play a sport. But still, like I mean, I've always
kind of been like a semi gym guy, you know.
I love like I was maybe going to do like
a running team and then or a running club. You know.
They kind of really scout intensely for crew on those
East Go schools, for sure, So I thought about that.
But I can't really like unless it's for overcomptable. I
(11:40):
got to be on camera, But.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Did you you didn't row?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I mean, yeah, because you imagine the tub at the Yeah,
I would have been probably a little tricky and boys
we had to drive to like ketch him or McCall
which or you catch well, actually, no, there's no lake
in ketcham. I'm going to get right for that, McCall.
I haven't been home. Oh. People love to say that
to me, and I'm like, sometimes I don't know. Yeah,
(12:06):
I think I was just sad movie theaters.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I just love the Northwest. I do, I really.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I mean it's a certain to it. And so there's
a scent and a smell and a look in tree right,
I'm really trying about.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The news, about the news about coming back.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's gonna be great. I think we have one of
the great father son relationships and there's more to mine,
you know what I mean about that relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, like almost Connie got more of the emotional beats
in this season, you know, which I think does make
sense for a lot of these experiences of you know,
when people come out. I think moms have a different
relationship to it than dads in a way. I agree.
I've just been rereading this book, The Velvet Rage, which
is kind of about this experience of being in the
closet and as you come out and and how that
(12:56):
manifests in different ways for you. You know, and how
it I think kind of changes who you are. And
it talks about that too, the relationship between parents, and
so I think, you know, looking into season two, I
am excited for Also there more emotion, I think.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I'm usually I'm curious about the journey. I'm looking
forward to the journey because I think, at the end
of the day, this is this person is your flesh
and blood, right, this is your son or your daughter,
and that supersedes everything. Of course, I mean there's nothing whatever,
whatever they're going through, whatever's happening, you know, you find acceptance,
You find.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
A way to understand you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You work towards that if you're having a difficulty, if
it's not just immediate, you know, because you just can't
be denied.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The relationship can't be denied. So I'm really I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Curious to find out how if my character sort of
finds his way to connect with you.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's also I'm now having, you know, this excitement with
writing season two of like I get to write for
you, you know, it's like the dream before of you know,
and now I get to know that it's waally yeah, yeah, yeah, sure,
And yeah, I think that's what's kind of yeah, to
go and a confidence with with you now, you know.
It's like, I like, that is so exciting to me
(14:05):
that I'm like, I know you and I know also
and being on set with you, I'm like, how what
would be like fun and enjoyable as an actor to
get to do with you and play But you know,
I think I told you. It's it's so interesting. It's
like parents go through this journey and then at the
other side of it, they're like wearing pride merch yes,
you know, and it's just like so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You can see that happening and she's like, well, well
now it's like, yeah, let's get let's get in at the.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
North Face pride merch. Yes, my dad does, and he
looks greted. Yeah yeah. I'm like hell yeah, King.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Like light that up and he's like check it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'm like I love the rainbow fabulous, yes, but all that's.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
All that's going to awaken, which I think is really
fun and just.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like I love doing bits with I mean, just you,
having bits and parent bits are fun to just I
lean to dad bits, you know me like yeah, and
I want to see the J Crew factory with Connie.
That would be fun too. I really want to we
gotta find them all.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, you know, and I do, And I actually love
that relationship too. I love the fact that I think
you really believe that we're parents, Yeah, that have been
together for a long time and you know, gone through
all sorts of different things, and you know, we're connected,
we're together, but we're also doing our.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Own thing and you know, now we're all gone. So
it's like I think that you know, we were talking
about it in the writer's room. Everyone kind of had
different stories of when they left and what their parents
how that affected their parents' lives because they were like, well,
they've just given eighteen years to being so focused on you.
Now they're trying to rEFInd out who they are without
you in the house, and then almost coming back together
(15:30):
and re meeting each other, yes, like not parents, but
as like partners, which I think is really that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think that's that's that's really true. In fact, we're
my wife and I are facing our sons and a
rising in a senior year. He's just started a senior
so one year and he's off somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's crazy. We only have one. So yeah, that's a
little I'm not going to terrify. The dogs become really important.
I think, oh, the dogs. My mom is absolutely the
dogs become huge.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Absolutely God, which is we're.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
On that way. My dogs smell better than any human
I met. Like it's explosive. I go, oh, just the
coats on those goldens. Sorry, we didn't do golden so
goldens would have been easier. So then Scott King, our showrunner,
loves cow Chow's, so that's why we did twelve.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was I going on really going to chow Land.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, well it's one of these Okay, so going to
chow Land? Okay, clip that?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But there was that, Yeah, I heard clip that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
But that's one of those things where you write in
a script and this is something that it sounds like.
So I feel very lucky that this is true. But
you'll write something in a script and you've read it
so many times you don't even really read the stage
direction anymore. So I kind of forget sometimes. But then
obviously a production designer, you know, everyone is is like, well,
(16:47):
this is what's in script, and like, we want to
make the world come to life as like the writers
have written. So it would be something like that where
all of a sudden They're like, yeah, and you wanted
this girl to have a service dog that was a poodle, right,
And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, and they're like, well, we've looked.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All over Toronto. We found one. And I was just like,
oh my gosh, it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'm like, we could have easily because like your wishes
their command.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like they're like, yeah, this is the way, and I'm like,
oh my god, I just didn't much time. Did you
spend exactly cost? And what did it take? Shout out
Josh who found those childs for you? I think that
took a really long time to find chow chow puppies
that were okay to be filmed, Yeah, and be handled
by an actor. Yeah, it was so yeah. Yeah, next
(17:29):
time I'll be maybe a little things. Yeah, yeah, do
you have any requests? We're gonna do it. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'm gonna talk a little bit too about because we
talked about were commentating a lot. But I'm very excited
about that we're gonna shoot in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
What do we know? I don't know. Campuses are hard.
Shooting on campuses is tricky, so trying to figure that out.
And during this school year. School year, we had we
had one night that was So it was one of
those things where then after you just feel like this
is so cool that this is like really happening. But
we were shooting on campus with me and Wally and
(18:01):
we were doing a golf cart sequence and then this
one where we're walking and you know, I say that
I'm super picky with girls, and then I asked her
and she's like, I'm not picky at all with God.
And we look up after a take because we kept
hearing like people time. We were like what and there
was like a high school camp that they had within
the dorms in there they were it was an entire
(18:22):
row of these like high school boys filming us and
filming her. I was just like, yeah, we should probably
do it on a closed this decision I saw I
still get, you know, tagged in those videos, and I'm like,
that's like, there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That was a private Having a successful show, you know
you just gonna be yeah, you're gonna be hrdhlighted. So
but you've done some really fun characters too. So I
was not familiar with these characters when we were together,
but looked into some of them.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's scary.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't think that you're doing these anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Deliverance Richard just one that I got a kick out of.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
She would love you, yeah, to sell you a vineyard
all in. I miss her a lot. I really do
miss being Deliverance. She was. She is kind of just me.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You're just free association, going crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just going to town like. I love her. I did
her because I was I was looking for a place,
and I kept meeting with different realitors and every single
time I found that a few of them I met with.
Anything I said, they went with. And then so I
would be like, yeah, I really liked it, and they're like,
isn't it the best? And I'm like, yeah, but this
one thing, you know, I'm not loving. They're like right,
(19:31):
like I fucking lived there and kill myself before it.
And I'm like, okay, do you like it or not?
Like wait, should I not get it? And I just
and the outfits and the selling sunset and the fingernails,
remember the whole thing. I love having. I wear like
gloves and I wear like hats. I did a pregnant
belly at one point just because I was like, I
(19:51):
think she'd be pregnant still walk in this you know,
so she was fun.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That was one of my favorite. Jenny the TMI hair
shy list scared me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You'd love to give you a cut?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I bet you would. I just don't still give
you a die job. I would just be like, I'm
a deer in headlights. I'm like, oh, no, was there
one that you were like, oh, this is close to me?
Just one of the characters that you created?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh my god, you know what's funny. I actually one
of the first characters I did was Haley, who became
the character in the show Oh, played by Holmes so
brilliantly one of the most talented people I've met, and
I that was something where we had done a stand
up show together like two years maybe two years prior
to shooting. I think that's what they said. They said, yes,
that's how you met. We met in backstage. It was
at the Allegiant Theater and it was very kind of
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this like small little backstage that they have, and it
was like immediately foreheads touching, you know, we're in the
corner just like talking to agent, just throwing up in
each other's mouth. And then she had this incredible set
and I was like, got, she's good and then when
we were auditioning people, she read for Carmen and Scott
King sent it to me and he was like, wow,
she's like incredible. Yeah, and I was like, oh my god,
(20:56):
what and I said, get her on tape for him.
Haley ran, Now I have never laughed like that. And
I love that character so much because it was like
this first character I developed. Yeah, you know I initially
she was a character that I had where it's like
a girl who just got back from abroad, and then
I kind of used her for a bunch of different
things like that, and this kind of I think, like
bad out of Hell that arrives at college was so
(21:18):
I mean, she writing that part is like a gay
man's stream and having someone like Hans come in, it's
just and you know what, the way she did it
is that she believed everything she said, and like, I
think that's why people have responded so well to it.
It's because you know, she came in and she was
you know, it's like what you're saying where something's just
inform the character. She was just like she is so loyal,
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She's obsessed with Carmen, like she's she might even be
in love with her. And I'm like, I love this,
like this every she just found a reason why all
of it made sense to her and none of it
was what I think some people could read on the page.
And also why I think Adam DeMarco was so great.
It's he was like, it's not a bimbo, and she
was like, you know, this isn't a bimbo. It's an
kid who wants to be loved and seen hasn't been
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seen in the right way.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And I just an absolute truth, like there's you can't
she can't be dishonest, which I know I think is
such an extraordinary quality.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Absolutely, you really feel that the performance. So yeah, anyone
were to do with Hailey, Oh, she's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
To write she is, and knowing that I'm putting in
my my head, I'd love to seeing.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'd love to seeing ye Oh, I would love that.
Be like your son's gay. Wait, yeah, you know, like
like are you thik like your son's gay? Yeah? Yeah,
like with her palm already? Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
What you've done with overcommisating is you the people that
you know, your friends, Yeah, people that you worked with
that you know within the circuits that the comedy circuit,
the dramas are in the show, and you brought them,
and you brought them and you know them, and you
bring them and you let them do their thing. Like
Marybeth is a great I loved working with her soul much.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
It's so funny when we did those first the photos
of the family, anyone who I showed it to, they're like,
I kind of get it, Like they're like, I know
who got each Like feature, I know who's I was
so glad you got to do that. We did episode
seven with the parents and that you got to see
because that was I think such an amazing showcase of
(23:25):
why I have always responded to her comedy and think
she's so brilliant, and that performance that she gives at
the dinner table, and and even that really sad sequence
in the bathroom where she's kind of dressed herself up
and her mom compliments it and it feels good, but
she doesn't want to show that it feels too good.
I just love her in that that episode was really
for her. It was like we wanted it to be
a showcase of I think this a great moment for Benny,
(23:47):
but it was so much more about her and the
parents and like finding like this family. You see, this
is the thing that was just what I love.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
This is why I think you're doing what you need
to do is because you these characters have depth, they
have things, other things going on. You know, overcompisating, you're
covering up something. You understand that. And you've brought in
people that I think really can do that and can
groove in it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And everybody has one.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
She's just you know, there's you know, she's got this
in sadness and that I see that that she just
lets be there, you know, like even that moment when
we the house my son and she's like like, oh, hey,
how are you? And I was like, I want to
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play it like, oh he does care, but he cares
about the son.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
This is you know, sorry, the prodigal son. And she's returned.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, she's left kind of there you are.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah. It's interesting too because I was so excited. I
feel like people really responded to that character so much too,
And that's what was so exciting. And I think also,
you know, this idea of a coldness and that being
seen as such a bad like a bad thing especially
for women, and I feel like for her to play
that and and also kind of do that and it
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be triumphant that by the end she does get to
return to more of like a coldness and not trying
to be what all these people want. I mean, that
was really exciting to me. Kind of being darker, I think,
and in moodier I think was so and that's what
I've always seen in her stand up too. When I
was doing stand up, I was like running around stage
like slapping my ass and throwing on wigs, and she
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was just standing there with a mic and just like
so cold and.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
She's kind of sharp, yes restraint, which I admire so
much because I'm not like that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I have a what do you mean? Like what I'll
always work with friends. I'm doing everything with you. Sorry,
I just I think I grew up. I mean I
mine was. I grew up with Adam Sandler movies and
then watching like my Rudolph and Kristen wigg and Amy
(25:52):
Poehler and watching them all be in each other's projects.
I'm like, well, this is who inspires me, and these
are like yeah, I'm like I times I feel like
I'm fan first for who do you? I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are people you watch you admire people like that inspire you?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And it sounds like, oh.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, comedians, you know, definitely was there a moment when
you were like, this is this is me, this is
what I'm want to do, this is this is.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I do remember seeing Missus Doubtfire when I was really
young and Robin Williams and that and being like, wow,
I just felt so much emotion from him, and I
think he also carried such like a beautiful like everything
he did felt really emotional, but also just being able
to tap into the comedy and yeah, I just I
remember that as a kid like really sticking with me
and being like I would love to do something like
(26:38):
this like he just feels and all of his films
I think I really like followed them as a kid
and SNL. I mean I when I was in high school,
it was the Maya, Rudolph, Jami Polar, Tina Fey, Kristen Wiggs.
So I just got that to me. I was so
I was like electrified by that. Every Saturday I was
watching them, and so I think that really inspired me.
(26:59):
But I don't know. I didn't say I was a
comedian until Mary Beth forced me to before the show
because I was just like, I don't know, I'm just
a guy, you're a comedian. No, and you're a gay guy.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But it was so yeah. So I always loved film
and TV and they were always places where I felt
like very safe. And I think I told you, but
the first time I saw blue Velvet was in a
It was called like senior seminar. It was a class
I took in high school and that was shout out
Missus Simmons. We watched films for the first time and
(27:32):
wrote about them and kind of analyzed them. That was
where I was like, WHOA, I maybe I would want
to study this. And at the time I was still
in the closet, so performing wasn't really on the menu
really until I started to come out and.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You're saying you're like going up on the stage, you
would be like, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I mean me as Danny Zuko would. People would not
have any questions about yeah, oh okay, yeah we've we've
been new.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It would have been two seconds again. So it's like
called just two sports and occasionally, you know run People
would say I run like a girl, which I'd take
as a compliment. I love it. Listen, that's your ass idea?
Why And did I say why are you watching.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, yeah, look at this, Yeah, look at my form.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah what about you? What was your do you have
like a moment where you were like, oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Kind of couple A couple actually, because I was more
high school, we you know, I did the play and
I did the musicals. Kind of everybody kind of did.
There was no stigma to do that. It was like
some of the cool guys, some of the cool guys,
the jocks, were actually in the plays, you know, in
the musicals because it was a cool thing to do.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, it was. It was like Washington there, you go
ahead of our time.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I remember doing that and having a great time.
Then going to college and.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Going I gotta think about something serious. I gotta study,
you know, I got what am I going to do?
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And I was like, well, I'll take some communication courses,
which is like perfect.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't want to do in communications, of course, I
gotta see that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I took public speaking and I was terrible. But I
also just took a drama I took a drama classes.
Well I just do an acting class, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, And I was like I was like that was
pretty good. I a really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, you're like, shit, I'm kind of absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, I don't know, like I said, I.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
But yeah, yeah, sorry, but I was like that.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I can't, I can't do this, you know what I mean.
But but I was like I was in college. It
was so unhappy. Yeah, and I went, I dropped out
my third quarter. I pledged beta. I was in the
Beta house, was a fraternity. I said, this isn't really
my vibe so much, but my dad was a Beta
and I was like, oh, I'll try to do this.
And I was like and I just and I took
I took a quarter off, I worked in a mill,
made some money, and that summer I went to summerstock
(29:47):
in North Carolina. Well, and that's when I was like, oh,
I was watching stuff and I got to actually be
a lead character in one of the plays for one
of the weeks that they did it.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It was kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, And I was like, this is basically the director
is told me everything to do they do this, do this,
do this. I was like okay, and I had a
really great experience. I was like, wow, this is really
I feel like something is clicking.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
But I still was like I don't know Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I got back to college and there was a program
there that they had that was for a repertory theater actors,
three years training to work you know, Shakespeare festivals, repertory theaters.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
That was going to be it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And I watched what they did. I saw I went
to a couple of plays, and I said that I
think I have to do this.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And so I worked really hard to get accepted into
the program, which I was accepted, and then I went
for three years. I was terrible, just terrible, but I
was doing I know what I wanted to do. And
then I just I can't started working and it was like,
this is what I'm going to do. I had no
idea I was going to make a living. I didn't
even think about that. It was just like I really
loved this process, and so it was it was like
(30:48):
a series of doors opening that kind of made sense.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Sometimes wanting to not want it. Yeah, I know, being
like that I can't love this that much. No, I'm like,
no one will.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Something else has to hell.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Someone in the Pacific Northwest I want to be an
act Yeah, like they're gonna like I think a dentist
still like one recently asked my dad like has been okay.
They're like he's still trying to do the acting. It's
kind of rurle, you know. Yeah, they're just like that's
just a job, you know. So they're like and I
(31:21):
just that was in my head too. I studied like well,
I studied English, so I don't know what. I wasn't
doing communications or anything, so I don't know like how
much more I was doing just like.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What are you what are you gonna do with communications?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Want to with that? I didn't even know. That's the
thing too where people are like was there a backup?
And I'm like, I think at the time, I was
like I'd love to like help people with music videos,
like I said, ship like, like what is that? Good luck? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, that was sort of my yeah, just in the
process of my process, which was thank god, you know,
and it sort of why asked myself, why did I
have such a hard time like accepting this clearly something
that I was better at than everything else.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't know. Still if I don't think I've really
done a play, but I'm dying too, I would one.
We should do one.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I've read somewhere that you were interested in doing that.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Maybe I think so I almost did one recently, but
then it just didn't work with the show. Yeah, but
I was really sad to not do it because I
was like, that would be I'm yeah. And then randomly,
when I was living in Brooklyn, there was a friend
who was doing a production of Alice in Wonderland and
they needed a mad Hatter and they always had like
someone common do the mad Hatter, and I almost it,
(32:30):
but then I couldn't do it. That would be fun.
That would have been fun. The mad everything. I mean,
I love that, you know, Yeah, that's my Will. I
could see he was you can't okay good, Like Willy Wonka.
I mean all those kind of like old Johnny Depp
ones were really huge. I mean that Willy Wonka was
like it was him for Halloween, Like that was brilliant.
Oh yeah yeah with a little Bob anywhere, I'm Will.
(32:53):
You're working there Courtney, right.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Is that the one that has the courtney?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah. They changed their hair so much with the Widows,
you can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That was a stroke of brilliance.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Whose I think was that? Yeah? The wades peak was me.
I just I really started to get it. I did
start to really enjoy making my face look more and
more like person. I just found that, like somehow my
face just felt like it lent itself in makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know. So I was really close. I was like,
it just doesn't quite look like her. And then I
(33:23):
was like, all right, let me look at her one
more time and see what's different. Yeah, And then there
was a windows and I didn't have a wig, so
I took a that's what it needs, made it, and
I was like, we've got it.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's funny because I was talking with and after I
really respect and we were talking about process, and I said,
how do you what where do you drop in to
the character? Is just what's the Ah, I got it,
I got it.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It could be those could be the shoes that you wear.
With the shoes and I've got you know, and from
there everything kind of grows. And he said the voice,
he said, and I said, that's that's interesting. And I said,
but I think in the process also the look I
remember doing mister c and yeah, twin Peaks of Return,
and I remember it's we're putting the character together kind
of a little by pieces and stuff. And then David
(34:04):
did like this kind of a dirt stipple on my face. Yeah,
and that I said, I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It is so it sounds so like actory, but it
is that moment where you kind of go, oh, I
know it's connect like I got yeah, you're just like
it's one little thing where you're like, it's so, that's so. Yeah,
it really can be that. It gives you Yeah, but
it gives you the just you know they're real.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it gives you the okay the door opened. Yeah,
now I believe it, and now I believe it until
I can make it happen.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
In the widow's peak, I.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Think, yeah, it's like widow's peaker.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Voice interesting and yeah, the voice is good.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I thought that was an interesting choice because I said, yeah,
that would that would work.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Where do you pitch? Where do you find it? Well, Benny,
it was so hard because it was like I am
in the closet and some people are believing it and
some people aren't. So what is that? How much do
we get to play within how deep the goes or
how masculine i'm you know, or how thick my neck is?
Like I found I also find posture to be like
really posture. And then this sounds kind of crap, but
(35:08):
sometimes I do it's helpful to think of how a
character would have sex. I know that's sorry, no no, no,
I don't want to talk about it in front of you.
But it's like Seasons is going to be a lot
of this, so we got to get ready. But I
think it's just it's like helpful to think of them
or in a relationship. I think it's helpful to me
exactly how would they how would they be?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You know, that's really you know, I think I really
want to ask yourself those questions, like it's helpful this
or this or this where and because it doesn't gives
you a picture, gives you a feeling more importantly, and
out of that comes behavior. Yeah, movement, I mean how
you interact with somebody, how you might touch someone or
grab someone or just anything like that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Totally. I had one character where I was like, he
would shower before sex. Yeah, and it's just like to me,
I'm like, oh, I so get it, Like he's just
kind of hell. I've played characters like.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
That, you know, where it's like he's just that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm like, I don't know how I kind of get
all that informs you know, it's just like a little Yeah,
informs everything, and I think that that's that's that's a
process or organic process.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But I think it is really really important. Yeah, I
got I would love to draw one on you. I'm
gonna do that. I'll bring that way I.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Could do because there was you remember the monsters. Oh yeah, okay,
So Eddie Munster, the little kid had a widow's peak.
And when I was, when I was younger, when I
had more hair, and when my hair was black, literally
so much black hair on the rest hanging in looks great.
But when I was but I looked back when I
was a kid, they knew her mind. Because my son
has just got his hair is hoped that you can't
even see the scout. It's like that God, And that's
(36:37):
what my hair was like. And it was jet black,
and it was like there was an Eddie Monster thing happening.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, that was good. And then I had a friend
of mine who.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Actually even looked like him, also black hair, until we
nicknamed him Eddie. I'm sure he loved that.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
He was so excited to get that God means the world.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's it for Eddie Monster, I said, But the widows speak. Yeah,
that's a killer that's a good that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Thank you so much that I miss being Courtney. I
wonder I haven't done her in a while. Yeah, I'm
here with I wonder if just yeah, there we go.
There's always do you have the one word that help you? Yes? Yeah,
like if I do watch Oh no, I know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And then when I did, I did a lawyer and
he was from Texas and the word ring was snow cone. Yeah,
snow cone and I'm locked in, You're locked in?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah? So what was it it, Courtney? I think it
was just human like that to me was just coming
just right. And now I have it. Yeah, orange just
tears so kind weep.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm a big fig fan.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, well of course, yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
How could you?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah? God, she was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I do remember after though, It's like, you know, family
and friends around me they were like, oh I still
hear Courtney, and I'm like, oh yeah, sorry, I was
in front of the green screen. I'm losing it.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
And she's to be a good sport about it, right,
I mean lovely.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I think it was Dana Carvey.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
He said this.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't know if he's attributed to him, but I said,
if you want to learn a voice, because he would
do bush, he said, you have to hear somebody else
do the voice, like maybe an extreme version, and then
you learn from them instead of learning from the person
that you're that you're gonna imitate. Yeah, somebody else has
to do it, and you're like, oh, I picked that up,
you know what I mean. So it's like, maybe you
listen to someone who does a really great version, you know,
(38:26):
and yeah, and go that way. So I don't know,
but you sounds like you went right.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I went to her because I just needed to. It
was also extreme, and we was good. I think I
went pretty extreme because hearing her talk, I was like,
I'm you know, it's a I had one person gave
me like a note once and I was like, yeah,
I mean, I am a man doing it, so just
like fuck ah, you know, I'm like, I think we're okay.
This feels like within the world, you know, I'm we're
bracketing here, like chill, Okay, we have a different we
(38:51):
have different chords. Yeah. I watched that and then one
I remember one thing that was Shawn Mendes was kind
of tricky for me at first, but I just watched
a few interviews, and sometimes it's just hearing how they
say one or two words, and him saying Levely was
really I was like, I know exactly how to get
my voice to sound like that, and that was like
the one. You know. It's just I don't know, but
(39:12):
I do think in hearing someone, I think maybe I
heard Chloe Feineman do Timothy Shallome ones like, oh, yeah
he's tough, he's really hard, but then he's way more
physical than yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
It's more like, yeah, that's I can see you wanting
to do it. I want I haven't.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Studied Hi yet. I mean, such a.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Fantastic I'm like, but I like the extreme ones, you know,
the thewkan or the but we were playing we were
playing earlier with we should do that.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
It's David Attenborough.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Oh today, Yeah we're talking with Benny Trauma.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh that's and this is fantastic. See where I got
it from? But do you get that is.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
In the why he perpetuates the ongoing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Process of a man, a man at his peak. Truly,
I wish David would talk about me like that.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Fuck he will.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
That was delicious. I love that. That's really good.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
He's but I need an extreme you know I have.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I have one for you. It's Daniel Craig in Night's Out.
There's been a I can't stop saying it. Saying it
to Mary Bedtune, she goes, oh, here's been wa But
he came into that movie, was such a hot take
on it. Oh it's an accent. Yeah, it's it's breath taking. Yeah.
I think about it a lot. I have to remember that.
(40:42):
I have to watch it again get a sense of him. Well,
we should be in one. It seems kind of fucked
up at this point. I think so too, But I
think that's the joy. It's like, yeah, because I thought
that too. With Parker Posey and White Lotus. The first episode,
I was like, oh, I don't know this accent, like,
and then by the middle I was like, it's just
like it's a stroke of genius. Yeah, this accent is
like it is such a choice in it, like and
(41:03):
it delivers.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It was me like watching Peter Dinklage in Game of Thrones,
like it's.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Not English necessarily, no, but what is it? But yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
But I was like, yeah, but go.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I not Yeah, great, Yeah, I love that We're going
to a break, so we'll see you.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
We'll be back. Don't go away for this segment I
designed just for you. I've cribbed a bit from you
and Mary Beth's segment Perfect Ride, and this is called
can I give you a ride?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Question? And I wish I would be careful because drove here,
which is not I should be allowed.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
All right, So you're good. I'm going to give you
these glasses these because I don't I don't want you
to get any bugs.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
On your ones.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I do whoa, Okay, I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I'm gonna lis.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I'm gonna put some on too.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Does that look you think that great? That's the face
of Balencia. You guys get that.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
No free ads believe that?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
What do you talk about our shirts?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
That this this is I wore this and you wore that.
And then there's something that's crazy that's called the family.
That's family in my head.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Now I can't see, but I can't ye, yes, but
I did. I'm gonna close my eyes now, okay, bi
color any color? Oh my god, I know it's a
very red pill blue pillar.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yes, what's gonna look better with with us?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
To me? I'm blue blue. So I'll go red, I'll
go read.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Okay, you're gonna tell me if you I'm going to
tell you a few things I write for and you're
gonna tell me if you ye also ride.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You need crookies on those. This is what I need.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You knew that exactly that term.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I was in the yard showing uh, shawing up some
bamboo and the sweating, and they kept falling hate with
my head in my right, I'm gonna go with I
might have to take that for season two.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I was sawing bamboo, bamboo.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I'm ready, I'm gardening in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Okay, we're gonna write.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
We're gonna ride, if you ride with me, whether it's okay,
you're ready, yeah, here we go to me. It's like, yeah,
this is okay, good and we're kind of moving. Remember
how you do with shots, like if you have the
driving scenes?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
So the only book things I've written for myself. Oh,
I don't know. I don't really, I haven't done that,
but I'm dying to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
A driving scene. Yeah, Oh, let's do it. It's hard to yeah,
because it's a good place for conversations.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Like a parent in an uber is so explosive, you know,
I feel that. Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I ride for wearing indoor shoes outdoors.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh yeah, I absolutely. I slap on an UG and
I ripped through. Yes, yeah, that a slipper little bear pod.
If you're getting nasty, I think that's good. Yeah, that's
the shoe of choice. I like the UG. I think
your suggestion was right.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Perfect fuzzy fuzzy inside has to be a slippery fuzzy inside.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Would I then wear them into like a bed or
put them on the couch? Probably not.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
No, you bring them inside, but you could wear them
inside depending on what you walk through on the outside something.
Did you just leave him at the door?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I love leaving at the door. A little clog, deal
with it. I ride for gardening, so I'm glad you do.
I personally don't, but I love that you do.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Wait, so you grew up in Boise, but there's no gardening.
Well I just thought it was the thing you did
in the Northwest.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Like my mom does. Like my mom loves her garden,
and but you leave her to it. Yeah yeah, I
think I just plants see me come in and they're
like get thirsty. Yeah, yes, okay, but I do. I
love the thought of you out there, and I love
going to someone's garden that they're really proud of. Good
will have you o having little tomatoes, a little little
(44:37):
blueberry why not?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yes, controversial take.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But I ride for Steve Brady. Okay, sure, I think
that's fantastic. From Sex and the City, that's what you're in.
For a second, I thought, is that an athlete Steve Brady?
One hundred percent I ride. I think he's fantastic. I
think I recently, I mean I recently told Kristin that
I thought. I mean he yeah, he's ten Okay, yeah, yeah,
(45:02):
hey he's no tao no.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
But yes, I mean he's got really quiet ultimate ultimately, but.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I think he's I think he's fantastic and he's so
you know, you guys on the road keep you of course, sorry,
but to me, yeah, I I really did like them together.
They were kind of a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
They ride for being silly on social media, I mean,
come on, I go, I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I want to be really serious. You are social media.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
It was very moody.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
We're driving a little fast right now, son, a little bit,
because you're.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Getting See this is why I'm not allowed to drive cars.
This is silly on social yeah, I and yours is
you inspire me. Oh that's nice to hear things. I
get sometimes scared of TikTok because I feel like I
didn't come up on it. So sometimes I have my
I have a team here there is. They're absolutely genius
(45:51):
and they helped exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
They help.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
They're my GUIDs tears Okay, I ride for kale.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh yeah right, I mean you're healthy Kales.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Sometimes when I'm eating it, it does.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I look up after two hours and I think I'm
still eating this.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
But I do like because you're not full, Kale doesn't
fill you up.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
It does.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I think it does make me bloated, but it does, guess, yeah,
of course, but I do. I love Kale. Kale's great.
I put it smoothie.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I like a little bit of like a little I
like a salt oil, a little bit of honey, oh
ship and tiny bit of boom and a cigarette and
well you know what, I.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Love them, right, Kale Caesar.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Well, Kale is my nickname from David. Oh yeah, I
love Yeah, he called me Kale. It wasn't and he
wasn't the one who who thought of it originally.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well he thought of.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
The calling me Kale but it was the late producer
Dino Dyla Renis who who couldn't pronounce Kyle Kale and
David loved that. That's it from now on, I'm Kale.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
We're driving off a cliff right now.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Definitely, we've driven off the cliff. We're fine moment.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I ride for the nerd emoji.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh is that the little teeth in the glasses? Yeah?
So cute. Love. I don't know if I've ever used it,
but I I love receiving it. I mean, how cute.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I don't know. I because my nerd emoji or them
I go with, I mean a thumbs up a lot,
hark a lot. I like the emoji with the two
the kind of the ice kind of squinting clothes and smiling. Oh.
I like that, Like, oh god, that was maybe that
was too much.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I like the one where it's a he's kind of like.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Oh yes, yeah, laughing behind. I feel like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
I'm like, oh, life is so embarrassed and said that.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah cute.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Here what the FUCKA Oh here's a good one.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
I ride for Chow Chow's the dog read. Oh yeah,
what you thought about that?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
H I love Chow.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I love chow chows.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I don't know if I want to shoot with the
chow chow again. I think chow chouse prefer camera diplomatic,
but I think they're they're beautiful. Dog Scott King, that
wonderful showerunner over compensating. Yeah, one, and he's such a king.
So I love I love Chachaus, butch puppies that's another story,
you know, maybe off camera? Yeah, off camera, very good,
very good. I ride for being a podcast host. Yeah,
(48:10):
because you imagine, I go die. I'm so glad you
are one now. I'm having so much fun. I know
you are.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'm kind say I didn't really getting into it. I
was like, you know what, I'm actually really enjoying this
because I get to learn, and yeah, I am curious
and I get to learn and ask questions, and I
think that's it.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
D how far have we coked up? Well, we know
what's coming up for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, you're going into the writer's room right now, and
you're going to write beautiful stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I'm going into a k hole for a bit and
then all once I climb back out, I've got to
have some gifts for you.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I'm so excited. Me too, I'm always excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But I know you now. Yeah, I just bother you whenever.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
You can bother me whenever except for yes, never mind.
But it's been a real pleasure. It's been real pleasure.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
That'll talk to you forever.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Okay, everybody else, bless your heart. I love you too.
We're in for another season. Thanks for coming on. That's
our show. We uh and we're sticking to it. Did
we discover what are we even doing? I don't know
if we did, but we had a good time doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
What are we doing? What are we even doing? We're family,
We're doing this. It's working, We're creating. Whatever we're doing,
we're having fun. We're having fun. There you go.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia
and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle
McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture Productions Yay,
featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For
more information about the podcast, please visit our Instagram and
(49:39):
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I'm here with Daddy. Ah, Daddy's looking good. You're my hero.
I didn't know you were a dick yet, very similar
to golf we did. This is my fourth Well, it's
my fleabag camera. I can't really wake up before seven
unless it's for overcompensating.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And you have some exciting news about that we're doing
season two.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Like are you thick?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Like your son's gay? And did I say? Why do
you watch it? Yeah? I've been thinking about the Oregon
coast a lot lately. The dogs become really important. I
think little Bob, well, any excuse to wear away? That's
the face of Balnciaga. Do you guys get that? Hey,
he's no chain toogal now. But we shouldn't be allowed
to podcast, No, we shouldn't. What do we even do?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
What are we even doing? By the way, ladies and gentlemen,
this is what are we even doing? And we're here
with Benny Drama. I'm here with Daddy Oh, and we
just start some really really good news we're going to
get to so, as you know, we are interviewing actors,
creators all type about their world, their creative world, how
they use social media, what's happening we get weird together
in a good way, and today we have it. I'm
(01:02):
going to do a proper introduction brilliant comedian, writer, actor,
podcast host Idaho.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And oh yeah before acting of course they do, of course,
and my on.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Screen biological song yes blood relative. Yeah, almost only because
you're from Bois and I'm from Yakama.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, and we can talk about the relations somewhere. There
is definitely a cross over there.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I am happy, happy, happy to be here with you. You're
my hero, pleas your bless your heart.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So we do podcasts together a lot. This is kind
of our thing now.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I think it could be because we did the one
for a twenty four Yeah, explosive and talk to Yeah,
yeah it was. It was fantastic. Yeah, talking about overcompensating
so fun. And you have some exciting news about that.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I do, and I think we can share. Yeah, we're
doing season two. We're going back. We're going back.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
There's one hundred people here. Yeah, yes, the audience.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I'm so excited because I started to tell you a
few things I wanted us to do, but I was
just saying, like, you don't want to fall in love
too much with storylines and stuff. I'm like, please just
let this happen. So now I'm just like, I'm a
nightmare to have dinner with right now, because I'll just
literally in the middle of a story. I'll be like,
so then Carmen's trying to get Benny's skinny jeans off, right,
and they're just like cool, you like you're not here.
(02:19):
It's like you're already writing, You're in the writer You're
already working it. Are you going to stay here and
do the writer's room here in La Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
we do. I think we're gonna do a little bit
in New York. A few of the writers are there,
Wally and Mary Beth are doing the room with me
as well, so which would be so fun. But we
do it on zoom, you know, which works. Yeah, so
we kind of I think we're going to do a
(02:39):
mix of in person in zoom this time. Last time
it was just zoom, which I think was good for
me because I had never done a room before, so
I was like I needed something to, you know, fidget
with things. Yeah, so nervous, and I was with like
peers and people I've like looked up to, and yeah,
you just get so.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You've seemed to be like you handled yourself really really well.
I mean, and that's of course watching you during the
filming when I was there, and just how you handle
everything and just you know, like a pro.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
That is so nice to hear you say that, because
when you came in, I have never been more nervous.
And the first thing we did was you and my
room changes, like where you put on my close and
I remember just being like, I had this really weird
moment where I find this all the time where it's
like hearing your voice is what really freaked me out.
The mom It's like hearing your voice and Connie's voice
(03:28):
they're actually here.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh yeah, and I just was mid And then also
I have the thing too where then I just start
to watch like it's so fun because you've.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Written the you know words, and now you get to
watch like cal McLaughlin's doing it, and I so yeah,
I'm kind of like sitting back. I was like, oh fuck,
I'm in the scene with him. Yeah. Let mean I
did that at the dinner.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Table scene to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
You're like, yeah, oh yeah, I engage with you. Sorry, yeah,
but oh.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I love an audience and that was fun to the
dinner scene.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, what he had written was so perfect. I was
just like, oh, I'm gonna take this as far as
I can the.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Way you did. And I wrote that was Scott King
and that is one of those scenes. And he had
known Connie for so like they had worked together. Oh
I didn't know, Okay, okay, it was just like and
you were our dreamcast, so it was like we I
think that was one of the easiest things to edit.
Like that was one of those things where also the
first time I watched it was what is on screen?
Like it was just like that scene is so and
(04:28):
with the lights and we played with the light flickering
a lot and posted the one part I broke and
I'm so bad. I break in every scene, but with
the you.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Know, yeah, yeah, it's just like, I mean, that was
such a that was such a brilliant, brilliant idea. I
don't know, you know, you have these things and like experience.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I had so many friends parents who were all doing
in visil line at the same time, okay, and I
don't know why, but it was like I think maybe
for their kids weddings. They were all like, I'm getting
straight teeth, Like my parents did it and then Mary
Beth had done it randomly, and then her I think
maybe her mom had done it, like just an assortment
of parents. So I was like, let's give him envissile,
and I thought maybe I didn't. I mean, I assumed
(05:12):
you were the best. I didn't know you were a
dick yet. But I was just like, I think he'll
be down. And then right now day one in the trailer,
you were like trying on my enviscile.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes, I'm so excited. It's gonna how I'm going to talk?
It was good, just it just informs a character so
so much. Those little things that you lay in really
support the character.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
What you're doing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You know what I mean to take and just make
it very easy. So I was nervous at first day too.
I'm walking in, I'm like, I got to take my
shirt off now, and I'm like, okay, I'm a man
of a certain age.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
My daddy, Daddy's like, good, do the best he can.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
No, in the take, I should have gone ship dad, Yeah,
right that one mile up and down the block?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You ate that up?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh yeah, no I can't. We kind of threw you
into the deep end there, but fantastic. I love it.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I love working with Connie. She is so I had
not worked there before.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean to kne who she was.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Of course, she has that rare quality where I can't
tell if she knows that she's funny or what she
just is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh, it's so, you know, It's like that is such
a perfect way of describing her, because it's I think
she you know, maybe in the back of her mind nose,
but I think there's something where she like knows she
has the power in the scene. Because I always felt
that I'm like she it doesn't feel like someone trying
to be seen by the camera in a way, and
I felt the same way with you. It's just like
(06:31):
it's there, which I think is a tendency in comedy,
is like I have to make sure the camera sees
the bit I'm doing, whereas I feel like in every
take with both of you, you were doing such different
things and that was so exciting to.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
See the interesting you say that because I think when
I first started, I was like much more aware of
the camera and much more aware of like matching things
and is catching everything. And then as I kind of
you know, went got older and went through things, I
was like, you know, what more and more. It's about
like trying not to show just the thing and not
even the cameras like it's gonna get what it's going
to get.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
The play of it, like watching both of you play. Yeah,
she has that crazy monologue out with the dogs, and
she also chow Chow puppies are not relaxed and they're
not particularly sweet, and sometimes the chow chow community is
going to come for me, you see my trauma from
having a podcast big. I'm like, I love chow Chow's,
by the way, but watching her do that, there was
(07:25):
no take that was similar. She just like and the
way she would riff. And also she has this line
where she's like, I didn't and it was one of
my favorite lines to write because it felt so like
what my mom would say. She's like, I didn't want
to do J jail because it would ruin it. I
didn't want to ruin it for me, so I did
J Crue factory And just her saying that she kind
of threw it away, and I was like, God, she's brilliant.
(07:46):
You're so smart.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, I want to ask you about growing up in
a small town in the Northwest. Yeah, because we share
that you're from Boise, Idaho. I'm from Yakama, Washington.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I think the two towns are very similar. Can Napoleon
was Napoleon died and it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Was it was in I think Rexburg, Idaho. Okay, yeah, okay,
but I've described it as this and and now everyone
around me is like, sure, I guess that makes kind
of sense. But we grew up with the sawtooth mountains
go through Voice beautiful, and so I every morning, like
at the end of my drive, like I could see
the mountains where we would ski in the winter, and
it helped me with direction. So everywhere I go, I know,
(08:25):
based on I find my mountain. Ye, yeah, I know
where I am. So nothing else in my personality would
make it seem like I'm good at directions, but I'm
actually good. And I think it's because of growing up
with a view that having.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I think I agree with you, you know, reference exactly. Yeah, yeah, meane,
this is my wee b. We didn't have any mountains.
We could see the cascades so pretty, and we could
see some of the mountains like Mount Rain near Mount Adams.
We couldn't see Mount Saint Helen's, but there was a
few that we could see.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And so that's the way you.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Got your we got I got my remember where things are?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know Helen? But saw tooths are those are some beautiful. Yeah.
That's why I think sometimes people think Idaho flat or Midwest.
No hate to that, No, no, I love you. Yeah,
but it's the this is my fourth wall. It's my
flea bag camera right here, which is yours, yours. It's
just like, I'm like, it's so funny that you're thinking
of Idaho. It's like because to me, I'm like, it's mountains,
(09:18):
like mountains and Mount Saint Helen is so funny. My
grandparents flew over it five hours before it went off.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
That's where that get here on the back, I know it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And I grew up with crazy hearing about Mount Saint
Helens for so that was like, you know, that crazed
my family all golf, So we were like driving around. Yeah,
that's why I was always in Washington and and see
you golf.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Wa do we talk about this? So because I grew
up on the golf team in high school, I wasn't
I wasn't very all my siblings did I know.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I did football.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
And then when I was in college I did radio
DJ so, but all my siblings played college golf very
similar to GOLFO well of course, well yeah, it's like
it's either if one doesn't work, you have Okay, golf
was tricky for me. I'm not patient.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah I well yeah, and also yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Like I remember I was doing it one morning and
I probably was like nine. This guy was keeping scoring.
He was like the dad of one of the kids
I was playing with, so like, I don't know, they
just all bothered me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I got
like it took me an eleven shots to get out
of the sand trap on this one hole, and then
I just by the end, I was just so fucking pissed.
And the guy to me was like, you know what's
great about golf is that you have the next hole
(10:28):
and it's just a total. It's just a wash, like
it's just all new. And I was like, yeah, that's
really cool. You're still going to count that fifteen I
shot on that last whole, right, yeah, And then I
was just like I shouldn't play this, like some of
my parents put me into track instead of spring. Oh
and I could, you could, and that would be yeah,
(10:48):
but that football and track.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, that was good. Was the classic sports. And of
course golf was not cool when I was when I
was in school, it was not cool.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
See it kind of got like I got my siblings,
it being kind of you know, is the Tiger Woods
of golf at that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Was when it was good, and now it's kind of
gone back, I think into some other.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I don't know what it is. I don't I don't
know if I'm allowed on courses anymore. But I love
taking a you know, whack at it.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah. Yeah, so that's high school. Did you do sports
in college Georgetown?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
No. I was the first of my family did not
play a sport. But still, like I mean, I've always
kind of been like a semi gym guy, you know.
I love like I was maybe going to do like
a running team and then or a running club. You know.
They kind of really scout intensely for crew on those
East Go schools, for sure, So I thought about that.
But I can't really like unless it's for overcomptable. I
(11:40):
got to be on camera, But.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Did you you didn't row?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I mean, yeah, because you imagine the tub at the Yeah,
I would have been probably a little tricky and boys
we had to drive to like ketch him or McCall
which or you catch well, actually, no, there's no lake
in ketcham. I'm going to get right for that, McCall.
I haven't been home. Oh. People love to say that
to me, and I'm like, sometimes I don't know. Yeah,
(12:06):
I think I was just sad movie theaters.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I just love the Northwest. I do, I really.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I mean it's a certain to it. And so there's
a scent and a smell and a look in tree right,
I'm really trying about.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The news, about the news about coming back.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's gonna be great. I think we have one of
the great father son relationships and there's more to mine,
you know what I mean about that relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, like almost Connie got more of the emotional beats
in this season, you know, which I think does make
sense for a lot of these experiences of you know,
when people come out. I think moms have a different
relationship to it than dads in a way. I agree.
I've just been rereading this book, The Velvet Rage, which
is kind of about this experience of being in the
closet and as you come out and and how that
(12:56):
manifests in different ways for you. You know, and how
it I think kind of changes who you are. And
it talks about that too, the relationship between parents, and
so I think, you know, looking into season two, I
am excited for Also there more emotion, I think.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I'm usually I'm curious about the journey. I'm looking
forward to the journey because I think, at the end
of the day, this is this person is your flesh
and blood, right, this is your son or your daughter,
and that supersedes everything. Of course, I mean there's nothing whatever,
whatever they're going through, whatever's happening, you know, you find acceptance,
You find.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
A way to understand you.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
You work towards that if you're having a difficulty, if
it's not just immediate, you know, because you just can't
be denied.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The relationship can't be denied. So I'm really I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Curious to find out how if my character sort of
finds his way to connect with you.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's also I'm now having, you know, this excitement with
writing season two of like I get to write for
you, you know, it's like the dream before of you know,
and now I get to know that it's waally yeah, yeah, yeah, sure,
And yeah, I think that's what's kind of yeah, to
go and a confidence with with you now, you know.
It's like, I like, that is so exciting to me
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that I'm like, I know you and I know also
and being on set with you, I'm like, how what
would be like fun and enjoyable as an actor to
get to do with you and play But you know,
I think I told you. It's it's so interesting. It's
like parents go through this journey and then at the
other side of it, they're like wearing pride merch yes,
you know, and it's just like so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You can see that happening and she's like, well, well
now it's like, yeah, let's get let's get in at the.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
North Face pride merch. Yes, my dad does, and he
looks greted. Yeah yeah. I'm like hell yeah, King.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Like light that up and he's like check it.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'm like I love the rainbow fabulous, yes, but all that's.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
All that's going to awaken, which I think is really
fun and just.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like I love doing bits with I mean, just you,
having bits and parent bits are fun to just I
lean to dad bits, you know me like yeah, and
I want to see the J Crew factory with Connie.
That would be fun too. I really want to we
gotta find them all.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, you know, and I do, And I actually love
that relationship too. I love the fact that I think
you really believe that we're parents, Yeah, that have been
together for a long time and you know, gone through
all sorts of different things, and you know, we're connected,
we're together, but we're also doing our.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Own thing and you know, now we're all gone. So
it's like I think that you know, we were talking
about it in the writer's room. Everyone kind of had
different stories of when they left and what their parents
how that affected their parents' lives because they were like, well,
they've just given eighteen years to being so focused on you.
Now they're trying to rEFInd out who they are without
you in the house, and then almost coming back together
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and re meeting each other, yes, like not parents, but
as like partners, which I think is really that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think that's that's that's really true. In fact, we're
my wife and I are facing our sons and a
rising in a senior year. He's just started a senior
so one year and he's off somewhere.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's crazy. We only have one. So yeah, that's a
little I'm not going to terrify. The dogs become really important.
I think, oh, the dogs. My mom is absolutely the
dogs become huge.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Absolutely God, which is we're.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
On that way. My dogs smell better than any human
I met. Like it's explosive. I go, oh, just the
coats on those goldens. Sorry, we didn't do golden so
goldens would have been easier. So then Scott King, our showrunner,
loves cow Chow's, so that's why we did twelve.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I was I going on really going to chow Land.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, well it's one of these Okay, so going to
chow Land? Okay, clip that?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
But there was that, Yeah, I heard clip that.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
But that's one of those things where you write in
a script and this is something that it sounds like.
So I feel very lucky that this is true. But
you'll write something in a script and you've read it
so many times you don't even really read the stage
direction anymore. So I kind of forget sometimes. But then
obviously a production designer, you know, everyone is is like, well,
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this is what's in script, and like, we want to
make the world come to life as like the writers
have written. So it would be something like that where
all of a sudden They're like, yeah, and you wanted
this girl to have a service dog that was a poodle, right,
And I'm like.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, and they're like, well, we've looked.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
All over Toronto. We found one. And I was just like,
oh my gosh, it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'm like, we could have easily because like your wishes
their command.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like they're like, yeah, this is the way, and I'm like,
oh my god, I just didn't much time. Did you
spend exactly cost? And what did it take? Shout out
Josh who found those childs for you? I think that
took a really long time to find chow chow puppies
that were okay to be filmed, Yeah, and be handled
by an actor. Yeah, it was so yeah. Yeah, next
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time I'll be maybe a little things. Yeah, yeah, do
you have any requests? We're gonna do it. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I'm gonna talk a little bit too about because we
talked about were commentating a lot. But I'm very excited
about that we're gonna shoot in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
What do we know? I don't know. Campuses are hard.
Shooting on campuses is tricky, so trying to figure that out.
And during this school year. School year, we had we
had one night that was So it was one of
those things where then after you just feel like this
is so cool that this is like really happening. But
we were shooting on campus with me and Wally and
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we were doing a golf cart sequence and then this
one where we're walking and you know, I say that
I'm super picky with girls, and then I asked her
and she's like, I'm not picky at all with God.
And we look up after a take because we kept
hearing like people time. We were like what and there
was like a high school camp that they had within
the dorms in there they were it was an entire
(18:22):
row of these like high school boys filming us and
filming her. I was just like, yeah, we should probably
do it on a closed this decision I saw I
still get, you know, tagged in those videos, and I'm like,
that's like, there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
That was a private Having a successful show, you know
you just gonna be yeah, you're gonna be hrdhlighted. So
but you've done some really fun characters too. So I
was not familiar with these characters when we were together,
but looked into some of them.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That's scary.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I don't think that you're doing these anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
But it's been a while.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Deliverance Richard just one that I got a kick out of.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
She would love you, yeah, to sell you a vineyard
all in. I miss her a lot. I really do
miss being Deliverance. She was. She is kind of just me.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You're just free association, going crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Just going to town like. I love her. I did
her because I was I was looking for a place,
and I kept meeting with different realitors and every single
time I found that a few of them I met with.
Anything I said, they went with. And then so I
would be like, yeah, I really liked it, and they're like,
isn't it the best? And I'm like, yeah, but this
one thing, you know, I'm not loving. They're like right,
(19:31):
like I fucking lived there and kill myself before it.
And I'm like, okay, do you like it or not?
Like wait, should I not get it? And I just
and the outfits and the selling sunset and the fingernails,
remember the whole thing. I love having. I wear like
gloves and I wear like hats. I did a pregnant
belly at one point just because I was like, I
(19:51):
think she'd be pregnant still walk in this you know,
so she was fun.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
That was one of my favorite. Jenny the TMI hair
shy list scared me.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You'd love to give you a cut?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I bet you would. I just don't still give
you a die job. I would just be like, I'm
a deer in headlights. I'm like, oh, no, was there
one that you were like, oh, this is close to me?
Just one of the characters that you created?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh my god, you know what's funny. I actually one
of the first characters I did was Haley, who became
the character in the show Oh, played by Holmes so
brilliantly one of the most talented people I've met, and
I that was something where we had done a stand
up show together like two years maybe two years prior
to shooting. I think that's what they said. They said, yes,
that's how you met. We met in backstage. It was
at the Allegiant Theater and it was very kind of
(20:34):
this like small little backstage that they have, and it
was like immediately foreheads touching, you know, we're in the
corner just like talking to agent, just throwing up in
each other's mouth. And then she had this incredible set
and I was like, got, she's good and then when
we were auditioning people, she read for Carmen and Scott
King sent it to me and he was like, wow,
she's like incredible. Yeah, and I was like, oh my god,
(20:56):
what and I said, get her on tape for him.
Haley ran, Now I have never laughed like that. And
I love that character so much because it was like
this first character I developed. Yeah, you know I initially
she was a character that I had where it's like
a girl who just got back from abroad, and then
I kind of used her for a bunch of different
things like that, and this kind of I think, like
bad out of Hell that arrives at college was so
(21:18):
I mean, she writing that part is like a gay
man's stream and having someone like Hans come in, it's
just and you know what, the way she did it
is that she believed everything she said, and like, I
think that's why people have responded so well to it.
It's because you know, she came in and she was
you know, it's like what you're saying where something's just
inform the character. She was just like she is so loyal,
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She's obsessed with Carmen, like she's she might even be
in love with her. And I'm like, I love this,
like this every she just found a reason why all
of it made sense to her and none of it
was what I think some people could read on the page.
And also why I think Adam DeMarco was so great.
It's he was like, it's not a bimbo, and she
was like, you know, this isn't a bimbo. It's an
kid who wants to be loved and seen hasn't been
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seen in the right way.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And I just an absolute truth, like there's you can't
she can't be dishonest, which I know I think is
such an extraordinary quality.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Absolutely, you really feel that the performance. So yeah, anyone
were to do with Hailey, Oh, she's fun.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
To write she is, and knowing that I'm putting in
my my head, I'd love to seeing.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'd love to seeing ye Oh, I would love that.
Be like your son's gay. Wait, yeah, you know, like
like are you thik like your son's gay? Yeah? Yeah,
like with her palm already? Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
What you've done with overcommisating is you the people that
you know, your friends, Yeah, people that you worked with
that you know within the circuits that the comedy circuit,
the dramas are in the show, and you brought them,
and you brought them and you know them, and you
bring them and you let them do their thing. Like
Marybeth is a great I loved working with her soul much.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
It's so funny when we did those first the photos
of the family, anyone who I showed it to, they're like,
I kind of get it, Like they're like, I know
who got each Like feature, I know who's I was
so glad you got to do that. We did episode
seven with the parents and that you got to see
because that was I think such an amazing showcase of
(23:25):
why I have always responded to her comedy and think
she's so brilliant, and that performance that she gives at
the dinner table, and and even that really sad sequence
in the bathroom where she's kind of dressed herself up
and her mom compliments it and it feels good, but
she doesn't want to show that it feels too good.
I just love her in that that episode was really
for her. It was like we wanted it to be
a showcase of I think this a great moment for Benny,
(23:47):
but it was so much more about her and the
parents and like finding like this family. You see, this
is the thing that was just what I love.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
This is why I think you're doing what you need
to do is because you these characters have depth, they
have things, other things going on. You know, overcompisating, you're
covering up something. You understand that. And you've brought in
people that I think really can do that and can
groove in it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And everybody has one.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
She's just you know, there's you know, she's got this
in sadness and that I see that that she just
lets be there, you know, like even that moment when
we the house my son and she's like like, oh, hey,
how are you? And I was like, I want to
(24:30):
play it like, oh he does care, but he cares
about the son.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
This is you know, sorry, the prodigal son. And she's returned.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, she's left kind of there you are.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Yeah. It's interesting too because I was so excited. I
feel like people really responded to that character so much too,
And that's what was so exciting. And I think also,
you know, this idea of a coldness and that being
seen as such a bad like a bad thing especially
for women, and I feel like for her to play
that and and also kind of do that and it
(25:01):
be triumphant that by the end she does get to
return to more of like a coldness and not trying
to be what all these people want. I mean, that
was really exciting to me. Kind of being darker, I think,
and in moodier I think was so and that's what
I've always seen in her stand up too. When I
was doing stand up, I was like running around stage
like slapping my ass and throwing on wigs, and she
(25:22):
was just standing there with a mic and just like
so cold and.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
She's kind of sharp, yes restraint, which I admire so
much because I'm not like that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I have a what do you mean? Like what I'll
always work with friends. I'm doing everything with you. Sorry,
I just I think I grew up. I mean I
mine was. I grew up with Adam Sandler movies and
then watching like my Rudolph and Kristen wigg and Amy
(25:52):
Poehler and watching them all be in each other's projects.
I'm like, well, this is who inspires me, and these
are like yeah, I'm like I times I feel like
I'm fan first for who do you? I mean?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are people you watch you admire people like that inspire you?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And it sounds like, oh.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, comedians, you know, definitely was there a moment when
you were like, this is this is me, this is
what I'm want to do, this is this is.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I do remember seeing Missus Doubtfire when I was really
young and Robin Williams and that and being like, wow,
I just felt so much emotion from him, and I
think he also carried such like a beautiful like everything
he did felt really emotional, but also just being able
to tap into the comedy and yeah, I just I
remember that as a kid like really sticking with me
and being like I would love to do something like
(26:38):
this like he just feels and all of his films
I think I really like followed them as a kid
and SNL. I mean I when I was in high school,
it was the Maya, Rudolph, Jami Polar, Tina Fey, Kristen Wiggs.
So I just got that to me. I was so
I was like electrified by that. Every Saturday I was
watching them, and so I think that really inspired me.
(26:59):
But I don't know. I didn't say I was a
comedian until Mary Beth forced me to before the show
because I was just like, I don't know, I'm just
a guy, you're a comedian. No, and you're a gay guy.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But it was so yeah. So I always loved film
and TV and they were always places where I felt
like very safe. And I think I told you, but
the first time I saw blue Velvet was in a
It was called like senior seminar. It was a class
I took in high school and that was shout out
Missus Simmons. We watched films for the first time and
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wrote about them and kind of analyzed them. That was
where I was like, WHOA, I maybe I would want
to study this. And at the time I was still
in the closet, so performing wasn't really on the menu
really until I started to come out and.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You're saying you're like going up on the stage, you
would be like, oh.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I mean me as Danny Zuko would. People would not
have any questions about yeah, oh okay, yeah we've we've
been new.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It would have been two seconds again. So it's like
called just two sports and occasionally, you know run People
would say I run like a girl, which I'd take
as a compliment. I love it. Listen, that's your ass idea?
Why And did I say why are you watching.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, yeah, look at this, Yeah, look at my form.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah what about you? What was your do you have
like a moment where you were like, oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Kind of couple A couple actually, because I was more
high school, we you know, I did the play and
I did the musicals. Kind of everybody kind of did.
There was no stigma to do that. It was like
some of the cool guys, some of the cool guys,
the jocks, were actually in the plays, you know, in
the musicals because it was a cool thing to do.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, it was. It was like Washington there, you go
ahead of our time.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
But I remember doing that and having a great time.
Then going to college and.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Going I gotta think about something serious. I gotta study,
you know, I got what am I going to do?
You know?
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And I was like, well, I'll take some communication courses,
which is like perfect.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I don't want to do in communications, of course, I
gotta see that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I took public speaking and I was terrible. But I
also just took a drama I took a drama classes.
Well I just do an acting class, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, And I was like I was like that was
pretty good. I a really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, you're like, shit, I'm kind of absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, I don't know, like I said, I.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
But yeah, yeah, sorry, but I was like that.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I can't, I can't do this, you know what I mean.
But but I was like I was in college. It
was so unhappy. Yeah, and I went, I dropped out
my third quarter. I pledged beta. I was in the
Beta house, was a fraternity. I said, this isn't really
my vibe so much, but my dad was a Beta
and I was like, oh, I'll try to do this.
And I was like and I just and I took
I took a quarter off, I worked in a mill,
made some money, and that summer I went to summerstock
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in North Carolina. Well, and that's when I was like, oh,
I was watching stuff and I got to actually be
a lead character in one of the plays for one
of the weeks that they did it.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It was kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, And I was like, this is basically the director
is told me everything to do they do this, do this,
do this. I was like okay, and I had a
really great experience. I was like, wow, this is really
I feel like something is clicking.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
But I still was like I don't know Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I got back to college and there was a program
there that they had that was for a repertory theater actors,
three years training to work you know, Shakespeare festivals, repertory theaters.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
That was going to be it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And I watched what they did. I saw I went
to a couple of plays, and I said that I
think I have to do this.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And so I worked really hard to get accepted into
the program, which I was accepted, and then I went
for three years. I was terrible, just terrible, but I
was doing I know what I wanted to do. And
then I just I can't started working and it was like,
this is what I'm going to do. I had no
idea I was going to make a living. I didn't
even think about that. It was just like I really
loved this process, and so it was it was like
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a series of doors opening that kind of made sense.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Sometimes wanting to not want it. Yeah, I know, being
like that I can't love this that much. No, I'm like,
no one will.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Something else has to hell.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Someone in the Pacific Northwest I want to be an
act Yeah, like they're gonna like I think a dentist
still like one recently asked my dad like has been okay.
They're like he's still trying to do the acting. It's
kind of rurle, you know. Yeah, they're just like that's
just a job, you know. So they're like and I
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just that was in my head too. I studied like well,
I studied English, so I don't know what. I wasn't
doing communications or anything, so I don't know like how
much more I was doing just like.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What are you what are you gonna do with communications?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Want to with that? I didn't even know. That's the
thing too where people are like was there a backup?
And I'm like, I think at the time, I was
like I'd love to like help people with music videos,
like I said, ship like, like what is that? Good luck? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, that was sort of my yeah, just in the
process of my process, which was thank god, you know,
and it sort of why asked myself, why did I
have such a hard time like accepting this clearly something
that I was better at than everything else.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I don't know. Still if I don't think I've really
done a play, but I'm dying too, I would one.
We should do one.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I've read somewhere that you were interested in doing that.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Maybe I think so I almost did one recently, but
then it just didn't work with the show. Yeah, but
I was really sad to not do it because I
was like, that would be I'm yeah. And then randomly,
when I was living in Brooklyn, there was a friend
who was doing a production of Alice in Wonderland and
they needed a mad Hatter and they always had like
someone common do the mad Hatter, and I almost it,
(32:30):
but then I couldn't do it. That would be fun.
That would have been fun. The mad everything. I mean,
I love that, you know, Yeah, that's my Will. I
could see he was you can't okay good, Like Willy Wonka.
I mean all those kind of like old Johnny Depp
ones were really huge. I mean that Willy Wonka was
like it was him for Halloween, Like that was brilliant.
Oh yeah yeah with a little Bob anywhere, I'm Will.
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You're working there Courtney, right.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Is that the one that has the courtney?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah. They changed their hair so much with the Widows,
you can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
That was a stroke of brilliance.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Whose I think was that? Yeah? The wades peak was me.
I just I really started to get it. I did
start to really enjoy making my face look more and
more like person. I just found that, like somehow my
face just felt like it lent itself in makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know. So I was really close. I was like,
it just doesn't quite look like her. And then I
(33:23):
was like, all right, let me look at her one
more time and see what's different. Yeah, And then there
was a windows and I didn't have a wig, so
I took a that's what it needs, made it, and
I was like, we've got it.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's funny because I was talking with and after I
really respect and we were talking about process, and I said,
how do you what where do you drop in to
the character? Is just what's the Ah, I got it,
I got it.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It could be those could be the shoes that you wear.
With the shoes and I've got you know, and from
there everything kind of grows. And he said the voice,
he said, and I said, that's that's interesting. And I said,
but I think in the process also the look I
remember doing mister c and yeah, twin Peaks of Return,
and I remember it's we're putting the character together kind
of a little by pieces and stuff. And then David
(34:04):
did like this kind of a dirt stipple on my face. Yeah,
and that I said, I got it.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It is so it sounds so like actory, but it
is that moment where you kind of go, oh, I
know it's connect like I got yeah, you're just like
it's one little thing where you're like, it's so, that's so. Yeah,
it really can be that. It gives you Yeah, but
it gives you the just you know they're real.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, it gives you the okay the door opened. Yeah,
now I believe it, and now I believe it until
I can make it happen.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
In the widow's peak, I.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Think, yeah, it's like widow's peaker.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Voice interesting and yeah, the voice is good.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I thought that was an interesting choice because I said, yeah,
that would that would work.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Where do you pitch? Where do you find it? Well, Benny,
it was so hard because it was like I am
in the closet and some people are believing it and
some people aren't. So what is that? How much do
we get to play within how deep the goes or
how masculine i'm you know, or how thick my neck is?
Like I found I also find posture to be like
really posture. And then this sounds kind of crap, but
(35:08):
sometimes I do it's helpful to think of how a
character would have sex. I know that's sorry, no no, no,
I don't want to talk about it in front of you.
But it's like Seasons is going to be a lot
of this, so we got to get ready. But I
think it's just it's like helpful to think of them
or in a relationship. I think it's helpful to me
exactly how would they how would they be?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
You know, that's really you know, I think I really
want to ask yourself those questions, like it's helpful this
or this or this where and because it doesn't gives
you a picture, gives you a feeling more importantly, and
out of that comes behavior. Yeah, movement, I mean how
you interact with somebody, how you might touch someone or
grab someone or just anything like that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Totally. I had one character where I was like, he
would shower before sex. Yeah, and it's just like to me,
I'm like, oh, I so get it, Like he's just
kind of hell. I've played characters like.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
That, you know, where it's like he's just that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm like, I don't know how I kind of get
all that informs you know, it's just like a little Yeah,
informs everything, and I think that that's that's that's a
process or organic process.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
But I think it is really really important. Yeah, I
got I would love to draw one on you. I'm
gonna do that. I'll bring that way I.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Could do because there was you remember the monsters. Oh yeah, okay,
So Eddie Munster, the little kid had a widow's peak.
And when I was, when I was younger, when I
had more hair, and when my hair was black, literally
so much black hair on the rest hanging in looks great.
But when I was but I looked back when I
was a kid, they knew her mind. Because my son
has just got his hair is hoped that you can't
even see the scout. It's like that God, And that's
(36:37):
what my hair was like. And it was jet black,
and it was like there was an Eddie Monster thing happening.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, that was good. And then I had a friend
of mine who.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Actually even looked like him, also black hair, until we
nicknamed him Eddie. I'm sure he loved that.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
He was so excited to get that God means the world.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's it for Eddie Monster, I said, But the widows speak. Yeah,
that's a killer that's a good that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Thank you so much that I miss being Courtney. I
wonder I haven't done her in a while. Yeah, I'm
here with I wonder if just yeah, there we go.
There's always do you have the one word that help you? Yes? Yeah,
like if I do watch Oh no, I know, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
And then when I did, I did a lawyer and
he was from Texas and the word ring was snow cone. Yeah,
snow cone and I'm locked in, You're locked in?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah? So what was it it, Courtney? I think it
was just human like that to me was just coming
just right. And now I have it. Yeah, orange just
tears so kind weep.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I'm a big fig fan.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, well of course, yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
How could you?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah? God, she was fun.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I do remember after though, It's like, you know, family
and friends around me they were like, oh I still
hear Courtney, and I'm like, oh yeah, sorry, I was
in front of the green screen. I'm losing it.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
And she's to be a good sport about it, right,
I mean lovely.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
I think it was Dana Carvey.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
He said this.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't know if he's attributed to him, but I said,
if you want to learn a voice, because he would
do bush, he said, you have to hear somebody else
do the voice, like maybe an extreme version, and then
you learn from them instead of learning from the person
that you're that you're gonna imitate. Yeah, somebody else has
to do it, and you're like, oh, I picked that up,
you know what I mean. So it's like, maybe you
listen to someone who does a really great version, you know,
(38:26):
and yeah, and go that way. So I don't know,
but you sounds like you went right.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I went to her because I just needed to. It
was also extreme, and we was good. I think I
went pretty extreme because hearing her talk, I was like,
I'm you know, it's a I had one person gave
me like a note once and I was like, yeah,
I mean, I am a man doing it, so just
like fuck ah, you know, I'm like, I think we're okay.
This feels like within the world, you know, I'm we're
bracketing here, like chill, Okay, we have a different we
(38:51):
have different chords. Yeah. I watched that and then one
I remember one thing that was Shawn Mendes was kind
of tricky for me at first, but I just watched
a few interviews, and sometimes it's just hearing how they
say one or two words, and him saying Levely was
really I was like, I know exactly how to get
my voice to sound like that, and that was like
the one. You know. It's just I don't know, but
(39:12):
I do think in hearing someone, I think maybe I
heard Chloe Feineman do Timothy Shallome ones like, oh, yeah
he's tough, he's really hard, but then he's way more
physical than yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
It's more like, yeah, that's I can see you wanting
to do it. I want I haven't.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Studied Hi yet. I mean, such a.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Fantastic I'm like, but I like the extreme ones, you know,
the thewkan or the but we were playing we were
playing earlier with we should do that.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
It's David Attenborough.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Oh today, Yeah we're talking with Benny Trauma.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Oh that's and this is fantastic. See where I got
it from? But do you get that is.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
In the why he perpetuates the ongoing.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Process of a man, a man at his peak. Truly,
I wish David would talk about me like that.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Fuck he will.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
That was delicious. I love that. That's really good.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
He's but I need an extreme you know I have.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
I have one for you. It's Daniel Craig in Night's Out.
There's been a I can't stop saying it. Saying it
to Mary Bedtune, she goes, oh, here's been wa But
he came into that movie, was such a hot take
on it. Oh it's an accent. Yeah, it's it's breath taking. Yeah.
I think about it a lot. I have to remember that.
(40:42):
I have to watch it again get a sense of him. Well,
we should be in one. It seems kind of fucked
up at this point. I think so too, But I
think that's the joy. It's like, yeah, because I thought
that too. With Parker Posey and White Lotus. The first episode,
I was like, oh, I don't know this accent, like,
and then by the middle I was like, it's just
like it's a stroke of genius. Yeah, this accent is
like it is such a choice in it, like and
(41:03):
it delivers.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It was me like watching Peter Dinklage in Game of Thrones,
like it's.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Not English necessarily, no, but what is it? But yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:14):
But I was like, yeah, but go.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
I not Yeah, great, Yeah, I love that We're going
to a break, so we'll see you.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
We'll be back. Don't go away for this segment I
designed just for you. I've cribbed a bit from you
and Mary Beth's segment Perfect Ride, and this is called
can I give you a ride?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Question? And I wish I would be careful because drove here,
which is not I should be allowed.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
All right, So you're good. I'm going to give you
these glasses these because I don't I don't want you
to get any bugs.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
On your ones.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
I do whoa, Okay, I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I'm gonna lis.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
I'm gonna put some on too.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Does that look you think that great? That's the face
of Balencia. You guys get that.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
No free ads believe that?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
What do you talk about our shirts?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
That this this is I wore this and you wore that.
And then there's something that's crazy that's called the family.
That's family in my head.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Now I can't see, but I can't ye, yes, but
I did. I'm gonna close my eyes now, okay, bi
color any color? Oh my god, I know it's a
very red pill blue pillar.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yes, what's gonna look better with with us?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
To me? I'm blue blue. So I'll go red, I'll
go read.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Okay, you're gonna tell me if you I'm going to
tell you a few things I write for and you're
gonna tell me if you ye also ride.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You need crookies on those. This is what I need.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
You knew that exactly that term.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I was in the yard showing uh, shawing up some
bamboo and the sweating, and they kept falling hate with
my head in my right, I'm gonna go with I
might have to take that for season two.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
I was sawing bamboo, bamboo.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
I'm ready, I'm gardening in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Okay, we're gonna write.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
We're gonna ride, if you ride with me, whether it's okay,
you're ready, yeah, here we go to me. It's like, yeah,
this is okay, good and we're kind of moving. Remember
how you do with shots, like if you have the
driving scenes?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
So the only book things I've written for myself. Oh,
I don't know. I don't really, I haven't done that,
but I'm dying to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
A driving scene. Yeah, Oh, let's do it. It's hard to yeah,
because it's a good place for conversations.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Like a parent in an uber is so explosive, you know,
I feel that. Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I ride for wearing indoor shoes outdoors.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh yeah, I absolutely. I slap on an UG and
I ripped through. Yes, yeah, that a slipper little bear pod.
If you're getting nasty, I think that's good. Yeah, that's
the shoe of choice. I like the UG. I think
your suggestion was right.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Perfect fuzzy fuzzy inside has to be a slippery fuzzy inside.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Would I then wear them into like a bed or
put them on the couch? Probably not.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
No, you bring them inside, but you could wear them
inside depending on what you walk through on the outside something.
Did you just leave him at the door?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
I love leaving at the door. A little clog, deal
with it. I ride for gardening, so I'm glad you do.
I personally don't, but I love that you do.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Wait, so you grew up in Boise, but there's no gardening.
Well I just thought it was the thing you did
in the Northwest.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Like my mom does. Like my mom loves her garden,
and but you leave her to it. Yeah yeah, I
think I just plants see me come in and they're
like get thirsty. Yeah, yes, okay, but I do. I
love the thought of you out there, and I love
going to someone's garden that they're really proud of. Good
will have you o having little tomatoes, a little little
(44:37):
blueberry why not?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yes, controversial take.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
But I ride for Steve Brady. Okay, sure, I think
that's fantastic. From Sex and the City, that's what you're in.
For a second, I thought, is that an athlete Steve Brady?
One hundred percent I ride. I think he's fantastic. I
think I recently, I mean I recently told Kristin that
I thought. I mean he yeah, he's ten Okay, yeah, yeah,
(45:02):
hey he's no tao no.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
But yes, I mean he's got really quiet ultimate ultimately, but.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I think he's I think he's fantastic and he's so
you know, you guys on the road keep you of course, sorry,
but to me, yeah, I I really did like them together.
They were kind of a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
They ride for being silly on social media, I mean,
come on, I go, I don't.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I want to be really serious. You are social media.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
It was very moody.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
We're driving a little fast right now, son, a little bit,
because you're.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Getting See this is why I'm not allowed to drive cars.
This is silly on social yeah, I and yours is
you inspire me. Oh that's nice to hear things. I
get sometimes scared of TikTok because I feel like I
didn't come up on it. So sometimes I have my
I have a team here there is. They're absolutely genius
(45:51):
and they helped exactly.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
They help.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
They're my GUIDs tears Okay, I ride for kale.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh yeah right, I mean you're healthy Kales.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Sometimes when I'm eating it, it does.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
I look up after two hours and I think I'm
still eating this.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
But I do like because you're not full, Kale doesn't
fill you up.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
It does.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I think it does make me bloated, but it does, guess, yeah,
of course, but I do. I love Kale. Kale's great.
I put it smoothie.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I like a little bit of like a little I
like a salt oil, a little bit of honey, oh
ship and tiny bit of boom and a cigarette and
well you know what, I.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Love them, right, Kale Caesar.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Well, Kale is my nickname from David. Oh yeah, I
love Yeah, he called me Kale. It wasn't and he
wasn't the one who who thought of it originally.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well he thought of.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
The calling me Kale but it was the late producer
Dino Dyla Renis who who couldn't pronounce Kyle Kale and
David loved that. That's it from now on, I'm Kale.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
We're driving off a cliff right now.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Definitely, we've driven off the cliff. We're fine moment.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I ride for the nerd emoji.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh is that the little teeth in the glasses? Yeah?
So cute. Love. I don't know if I've ever used it,
but I I love receiving it. I mean, how cute.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
I don't know. I because my nerd emoji or them
I go with, I mean a thumbs up a lot,
hark a lot. I like the emoji with the two
the kind of the ice kind of squinting clothes and smiling. Oh.
I like that, Like, oh god, that was maybe that
was too much.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I like the one where it's a he's kind of like.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Oh yes, yeah, laughing behind. I feel like that a lot.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
I'm like, oh, life is so embarrassed and said that.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Yeah cute.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Here what the FUCKA Oh here's a good one.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
I ride for Chow Chow's the dog read. Oh yeah,
what you thought about that?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
H I love Chow.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I love chow chows.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I don't know if I want to shoot with the
chow chow again. I think chow chouse prefer camera diplomatic,
but I think they're they're beautiful. Dog Scott King, that
wonderful showerunner over compensating. Yeah, one, and he's such a king.
So I love I love Chachaus, butch puppies that's another story,
you know, maybe off camera? Yeah, off camera, very good,
very good. I ride for being a podcast host. Yeah,
(48:10):
because you imagine, I go die. I'm so glad you
are one now. I'm having so much fun. I know
you are.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
I'm kind say I didn't really getting into it. I
was like, you know what, I'm actually really enjoying this
because I get to learn, and yeah, I am curious
and I get to learn and ask questions, and I
think that's it.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
D how far have we coked up? Well, we know
what's coming up for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, you're going into the writer's room right now, and
you're going to write beautiful stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
I'm going into a k hole for a bit and
then all once I climb back out, I've got to
have some gifts for you.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
I'm so excited. Me too, I'm always excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But I know you now. Yeah, I just bother you whenever.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
You can bother me whenever except for yes, never mind.
But it's been a real pleasure. It's been real pleasure.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
That'll talk to you forever.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Okay, everybody else, bless your heart. I love you too.
We're in for another season. Thanks for coming on. That's
our show. We uh and we're sticking to it. Did
we discover what are we even doing? I don't know
if we did, but we had a good time doing it.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
What are we doing? What are we even doing? We're family,
We're doing this. It's working, We're creating. Whatever we're doing,
we're having fun. We're having fun. There you go.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia
and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle
McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture Productions Yay,
featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For
more information about the podcast, please visit our Instagram and
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