May 21, 2025 • 33 mins
Weeks pass with no sign of Talina. Her friends, as well as the online sleuths and the local sheriff start to uncover strange clues—a burned mattress, a missing persons poster—all casting suspicion on Talina’s roommate, Kore. As the pressure builds, Kore shares her side of the story.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Corey. She had a place out west of the Scotin
and she had some animals and dogs, cats, horses, dogs
and all kinds of stuff over there.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is Greg Thompson, the local handyman who did small
jobs for Tolena. When Corey moved into Teleina's house fresh
office separation from her husband, she came with a menagerie
of animals, both big and small.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
She had to do something with all the animals and
all the corrals and everything. They went with them. Then
here's old Greg. That's me. I volunteered to help Corey
and we moved all of her stuff over to Chilina's house.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Talina was a huge animal lover and she welcomed Corey's
cats and dogs into her home. The larger animals that
couldn't fit were placed with her neighbor and house cleaner
named Billy Shieltz.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Billy had a pretty good size yard. We sent and
she put the donkeys in there. They were a little
miniature donkeys and she liked them. They were cute. And
they had this horse. It was like thirteen or fourteen
years old, super old, and it was like a horse
made out of toothpicks in paper. I mean it was
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so skinny. I was like, Corey, what's up with that horse?
And she goes, well, I've had people report me to
the law and everything else about that horse. But I
have a vet that says that it's sick, and you know,
we're just trying to let it live. It live its
life out. I don't want to put it down. You know,
we're letting it live and it eats, it drinks, it
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did everything a horse should have done. It just looked awful.
A couple of months go by and the old horse
finally passes away, and Corey calls me like nine or
ten o'clock at night and asks me if I had
access to a back and I'm like, no, I don't.
(02:03):
I have a tractor, but it doesn't dig holes like that.
I said, okay, well maybe I can get some help
from a neighbor over here. Okay. So a couple of
days go by, I end up over at Billy's. I said,
what happened to the horse? We're being up burying it
and she goes, well, we didn't end up burying it.
(02:24):
And I'm like, well, what happened to it? It's not
here and she goes, well, Cory, Butcher, that thing, and
I'm like what she said? Yeah, she keut that horse
up in tiny little pieces and put it in black
trash bag and put it in the back of the
Pontiac six thousand and hauled it out to Muskogie and
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dumped it out for the kyak And I'm like, what,
who does that? And so I've read it to Cory
and we got talking about it. I said, can't you?
And she said it took.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Me a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I was able to do it and said I just
thought it was fitting to take it back out there
where it had lived all its life and trying to
return it back to nature. And Okay, that's freaking weird,
but okay, whatever, And I'm like, who even knows how
to do something like that?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
From iHeart Podcasts, I'm Melissa Jelson And this is what
happened to Teleina Zar.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Just because they're missing doesn't mean anything was nefarious.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
All of us wear mass.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
How well did I adapt to being property?
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That depends on whether you ask me or master.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Lol.
Speaker 8 (04:08):
He would talk and talk and talk, so he'd give
us information. He'd give us names, he would give us
phone numbers. The first thing I would say was, how's
your roommate going, and she always answered the best I've
ever had.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
There's still part of me thinking that maybe someone will
just call and say she's sick somewhere. Most of me
is saying that when I get that phone call, it's
going to be because someone found her. I'm supposed to
identify her.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Episode four, The Mattress.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We had some meat from a fundraiser that our kids
were doing at the school. It was like shausage meat.
I don't know if you've ever heard of Blue and Gold,
but it's kind of a big deal down here in
the Oklahoma, Texas area. It's really good stuff. Selena had
already pre paid pretty items, and I didn't want to
keep that even though she was missing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
At this point, about a week after Teleina disappears, her
friend Aris stops by her house and meets with her
roommate Corey. The purpose of Aris's visit is twofold. She's
dropping off some meat that Teleina had ordered, and also
picking up a mattress of Telena's which had been promised
to her son. She's just moved into a new house
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and Telena had been instrumental in helping to furnish it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So we get there we see Corey. We asked, you know, hey,
how you holding up Daddy? Heard anything? They're like no,
they hadn't heard anything from Teuleina.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Corey meets Aris at the door, but doesn't invite her in.
She's worried that the virus could still be lingering inside
and doesn't want Aris to get sick.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
She said that to reduce the possibility and exposure there,
we should stay.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Outside, standing on the front porch. Aris asks about the
match and learns that it's gone.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
The bed that we were going to be given was
burned in the backyard. Corey burned it because the CDC
told her to because Telena believed she had COVID.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Burning Teleina's bed in the backyard strikes Eiris as an
extreme reaction to COVID, but then again, so is the
decision to shut down businesses and schools. I mean, people
were spraying their groceries with lyesol before touching them. It
was a weird time. Luckily, Corey says there's another mattress
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she can take instead, and so Aris and her husband
loaded up. Before they leave, Aris brings Corey the sausage
meat you want.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I take the sausage out of my car. I go
hand it to her and I say, hey, this is
the stuff that Telena paid for. You know, even though
she might not be here right now, I would rather
go to the house to pay for it. She looked
at me and said, you guys should go ahead and
take it. Our fread is stuffed full of meat.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Not long after, Greg bumped into Corey in town.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
She was filing a missing persons report for Calena. She
had this big mask on like you would use for
like painting or something, you know, to keep the fumes up.
We had talked for a minute and I expressed my
concern about Helena missing and was asking her do you
know where she could possibly have gone.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
The two compare notes and theories for a few minutes,
and then Corey asks Greg for some help at the house.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
She asked me to come over and pick up some
scrap metal in their yard, but they've accumulated for haul
off trash or something like that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Later that day, Greg drives over to Telena and Corey's.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So I get over there to pick up Corey's strap metal,
and it was Telena's headboard from her bed and what
was left of the mattress that I had just put
on there. It had been burnt and all that was
left was a metal wire frame that's inside the mattress.
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You know, We're loading this stuff up on there, and
I'm like, is this Tuena's bed, and shot, oh, yeah,
this is the sick bed. This is where Telena was
so sick, and you know, to get rid of the
germs and this and that, I just earned it all.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Greg loads his trailer with the metal bed frame and
heads towards the recycling center.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I pulled up on the scale and the ladies behind
the windows, you know, she's looking at all my stuff
and tell me to pull uh. And she walks out
there and she goes, what size of the headboard is that?
I told her I think it's Queen or Keene whatever,
and you're you might if I had it. Then I'm like,
I don't care, because my daughter is looking for a
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headboard and I think that one would be perfect. I
gave it to her, and so I went ahead and
got rid of all my strap and went on about
my day.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That evening, Greg finds himself recounting this story to a friend.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm telling my buddy this as we're sitting in the garage,
and he said, do you not think that he just
got rid of it edity and a possible crime. And
I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (09:35):
I mean, it was just really really weird things were happening.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
This is Rachel another Wagner friend of Telena's.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
Everybody's you know, reaching out to each other and it's like,
has anybody seen Telena or has anybody here heard from Telena?
There was nothing, nothing, And people reached out to Cory
have you heard from her? And Corey like blowing it
off and stuff. No, she's sick, she's up in the
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woods and whatnot. And the whole situation was just weird.
But COVID was starting to ramp up and people were
starting to get sick and stuff right around that time,
and you know, we all tried several weeks to reach
out to Corey and Telena and stuff and just never
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heard anything.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
There's a pretty big group of people in Wagner looking
for Telena now Rachel airis Greg and his wife Marty
aka Wolfe and his wife Lorie, as well as other neighbors,
even Telena's hairdresser Kim. They put up flyers and organize
a vigil.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wolfe had this little get together at our local fire departments.
It was to bring awareness to Helena's disappearance. I didn't
go to it that. My wife just popped in doctor
Wolfe and his wife and some other people that were there,
and she noticed that Corey wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The thing about Corey is she's a recent transplant. She's
been living with Telina for less than a year. And
the Wagoner friends they start to have the same nagging
feeling how well did any of them really know her.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
My wife went over to the house and Corey met
her at their you know, answered the front door, but
just barely cracked it and then came out. She wouldn't
let her in the house. And Billie sheielded the lady
that was cleaning their house. She went over there and
Corey wouldn't let her in.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
There was really only one person in town who had
a long standing relationship with Corey. That was Marty Woolfy,
that met more than a decade earlier at Gorefest.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Wolfe had called me and asked Kelly a week or
two afterwards if I had noticed anything about Corey. I
said no, everything seemed to be business as usual. I mean,
she seemed probably a little too nonchalant. When more than
one person started asking me if I'd noticed anything is
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when I started to really start to question every interaction we.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Had, with suspicions raised. Aris looks back over her text
messages with Teleina before she disappeared, and she starts to think,
some of these messages don't sound like Telena. Talna had
reached out to Aris on March twenty eighth and asked
her to swing by for the mattress, but at the
last minute Teleina canceled.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
We were supposed to go over that morning, and we
got a message that said, I have a migraine. I'm
going to stay in you know, abart mission.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Whatever, abort mission. I've got a terrible migraine. I've been
staying in bed today.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Okay, not in common, but I'd noticed she had packed
it differently. She normally has a pattern of how she
types that you know, uppercase, properly, punctuated, grammatically correct, and
that wasn't it. Initially I just wrote it off as
she might have a migraine, like, clearly has a migraine, so,
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you know, not keeping up with the grammar.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
A number of Telena's friends are also questioning the legitimacy
of Telena's final Facebook post, like Rachel, who was skeptical
about it from the moment she read.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
It, but literally just talked to her a couple of
days before a messenger and she was, fine.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
I'm on day nine of this virus and I am
pretty sure it has reached my lungs.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
We had talked about COVID. She didn't seem particularly worried
about it. She didn't seem to be like the sky
is falling kind of thing, which is what this post
sounded like.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I made the decision at the onset that if it
got bad enough, I would not go to the hospital, And.
Speaker 9 (14:07):
At the time when I read it, I'm like, that
just sounds weird. That doesn't sound like Telena.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Telena's friends in Wagner are growing distrustful of Corey, and
so are the online sleuths.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
We all had reservations about Corey, Like nothing she said
or did make sense. Why was she being like so
sketchy about everything?
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Really, the biggest the biggest one was trying to figure
out who Corey was and and her history and you know,
where did she come from. After we found out about
the Gorrians, we started deep diving Corey. So we googled
Corey and found out she had a criminal history, a felony.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
According to the documents they can access. Six years earlier,
Corey was arrested and charged in Madison, Wisconsin for using
someone else's credit card.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
Her criminal records will pop up online and it said
she had used credit cards at different places.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
This discovery is interesting, but the online sleuths know enough
from their true crime shows that a past charge for
a nonviolent crime doesn't prove anything.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
A lot of us said, well, just because she's a
thief does not mean she's a murderer. That doesn't It's
not the same thing.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So they keep digging, developing a basic profile for Corey.
They learned that she grew up on a dairy farm
in Wisconsin with her mother, father, and one brother, and
since she left home, it seems as though she's traveled
a fair bit. They find addresses for her in at
least four states.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
We found out she had like thirteen different aliases, and
I was like, who the hell needs thirteen aliases? And
then I look myself up and I see I have
two different you know, my name is two different times
because I had been married. And then my maid name,
and I was like, that makes sense to have one
or two, but then thirteen. So we start googling like
her life and we download this app where you can
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get background checks on people. We see who she was
married to, and then we start reaching out to people
she was married to.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Not afraid to cold call strangers, Jess identifies two ex
husbands and reaches out first up David Sachs, who Corey
married in the nineteen eighties. His father owned a casino
in mob Era, Las Vegas. Jess has a few conversations
with him, and he offers some color about Corey, like
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the fact she'd once worked in a coroner's office, but
he hasn't seen her in decades. Her second husband is
more helpful. Alexander Adams is a Celtic musician who Corey
met in Oregon when she was an event coordinator. They
spent fourteen years together, traveling the country for gigs and
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releasing music online. Alexander Adams or Alec as he goes by,
is receptive to Jess's questioning. He's in Wisconsin, but he's
heard about Tolina's disappearance and wants to help however he can.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
He tells Jess some of.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Their backstory, filling in gaps in her research. Alec is
in the Renaissance festival circuit. In fact, he'd met Marty
slash Wolfe at the annual Oklahoma Renaissance Festival some years back.
Alec tells Jess that Marty loved his music and asked
him to come to his private event, Gorefest. Corey went too.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
He invited Alec back to Gorfest to perform at the festival,
and he invited them back, like, hey, come perform for us.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
You know it's going to be great, and they went.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's here at Gorfest in the early two thousands where
Telena first meets Corey. The online sleuths are developing a
better picture of who Corey is from their conversations with Marty,
Corey's ex husbands and the research into her past, and
then they find something huge.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
She used eBay to make a living. She'd sell stuff
on eBay and that's how she'd make money. And that
gave us the idea to look on eBay to see
what she's been selling. We'd all take turns kind of
creeping on it every day, like checking to see if
anything was up that was weird.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
One day, Nicole Telena's friend in Tennessee notices that Corey
is selling things that had been in to Lena's house.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
Looking at old pictures of her house and you would
see that she was selling things off.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Little by little.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
You could see clock in the background of a picture,
and then it was there on her eBay.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
We had seen her selling Telena's stuff, some clothes, these
metal like lawn flowers that she had gotten, I guess
Nicole had said. Telina was very excited about these lawn flowers.
They're like metal. She had bottomed a flea market or something,
and she loved them, and we just we were all like,
what is going on here? Why is she selling this stuff?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Aside from just some trinkets and collectibles, they saw some
of Telena's most treasured belongings for sale.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
Her wedding ring to Tom was on there, and she
would never ever ever sell that wedding ring. And when
I saw that, and I saw his medals he was
awarded in the Army, I knew that there was no
way that she would have sold those things.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Nicole comes up with a plan to get the items
back without Corey catching on.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
I contacted my cousin and I asked her just to
buy them that I would pay her for them. She
lived in another state in Louisiana, and so I thought
that she would not knows me.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Nichole's cousin wins the bid. Corey packs up the wedding
ring and some of Tom's military medals and ships it off.
Niicole's cousin then forwards the package to her. Armed with
this evidence, Nicole contacts the cops, so does Jess, but
the response they get is not as enthusiastic as they hoped.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
At first, it was like, Okay, thank you, we're getting
a lot of tips, you know, thank you. We appreciate it.
And we were really hyped up about the eBay thing.
I was like, hey, this is huge.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's been twenty two days since Telena's cryptic Facebook post.
From the perspective of the online sluice, the cops aren't
doing anything.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
I was mad. I think all of us were mad.
We were like, what the hell, it's plain's day, what
she's doing?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
The Jess and the others aren't privy to what's going
on behind the scenes. On April twenty ninth, Detective Joel
Webber and a colleague go to Telena's property a brown,
rustic lake house set back from the road. Corey invites
them in and gives them a tour. It's the first
time law enforcement has gone inside the house. She shows
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them around the living areas and the bedrooms where she
and Telena slept. Here's how Detective Weber later described his visit.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
In that initial kind of walk through of the house,
there was several things that kind of, I guess stood
out a little bit. One of the things was in
the office room, there was a map on the wall
that had a lot of arrows on it. They weren't
drawn on the map. It came like from the distributor
or whoever, with those arrows on it, and it said
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like the missing four one one on it or something
like that. And I asked Corey what that was or
what it was for, and Corey said it was just
all of the arrows indicated people that had gone missing
in national forests around the United States. I thought that
was significant. I made a mental note. There was a
map of missing people on the wall, and I'm there
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looking for a missing person. It seemed unusual. I think
I went into I think I went into every room
and then also in the yard.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Corey shows Weber around the yard, the garage, and then
he leaves. Meanwhile, the Sheriff's office is being inundated with
tips from friends, locals, psychics, and the online sleuths, and
a large number of them point at Corey. About a
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week later, Detective Weber asked Corey to come back into
the station to address some of the rumors that have
been circulating. Here's a recreation of parts of their conversation.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Okay, good, I forgot a pen, So all right, just
had some fallow up cues from we talked about before.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, you probably.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Already know that people on the internet are already talking
and saying lots of things.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
And there's one gal online that you know, between some
misinformation and some fabrication.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's unfortunate, right, everyone wants to be a detective.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, it seems that Corey knows about Jess and the
fine to Lena's our Facebook group, she's been lurking online.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I'm getting told a lot of random stuff and a
lot of and I'll be completely honest with you, a
lot of people are pointing suspicion at you.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Detective Weber starts asking Corey about some of the tips
his office has received, beginning with questions about Corey's criminal record.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
All Right, somebody brought up at some point that you
were charged with something and I don't remember what state, Okay,
Wisconsin or in Wisconsin Wisconsin?
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yes, so what happened in a nutshell? My husband?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Corey explains that a number of years ago, she and
her then husband, Alexander Adams, the Celtic musician, moved to Middleton, Wisconsin,
where her mom lives.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
My husband and I spent every penny we had to
move to Wisconsin, and we went through a tough time
where we didn't have much money.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Corey tells Detective Weber that she became good friends with
a man who lived next door, and one day this
neighbor gave Corey his wife's credit card to use so
she could get some groceries and gas. He said Corey
could pay him back later.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Well, the wife was jealous of him and I for
no reason, and she had a canary and she pressed charges.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Corey says, at first she was booked for a misdemeanor,
but the wife was making a lot of fuss and
so they elevated the charges to a felony. Ultimately, she
says it never went to trial. She got two years probation.
It was all a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
No probation violations during the two years.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
None, No, they move on.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Okay, Well, one other thing came up, and that was
the allegedly somebody thinks you're selling things on eBay that
belonged to Tom, that belonged to Tolena, that were her
deceased husband's.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Stuff, and that is very possible. But there are things
that Telena has been giving me of Tom's for the
past two years, okay, to sell online, So there's nothing
sold that shouldn't be sold. And quite frankly, as her executor,
she told me, when I'm gone, do whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
With everything, and I haven't. I mean, there's most stuff
is still there.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Corey reminds Weber that legally, she's in charge of Telena's
a state in the event of Telena's death. Weber responds
that it's really too early for her to be taking
on that role.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well, and I don't maybe it's not even my place
to say anything, but I don't want you. What can
make you look worse or look bad to some people
is that she's not she's not been found. Uh huh,
She's not dead as far as we know, so doing
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things as an executor before we know she's dead is presumptuous.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I like to imagine that. Weber takes a dramatic pause here,
looks Corey in the eye, has a little staring contest,
then looks down at his notes. Weber switches gears, brings
up something his deputies mentioned.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
They said there was some sort of travel trailer or
a trailer of some sort in the driveway.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Oh, a white cargo trailer.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
It's sold. It's sold. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And so the reason I ask is because someone brought
that up and I said, I didn't see a trailer
when I was in the driveway.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No, we sold that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
When when did that sell?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I think it was either mid March late March, March
a couple of months ago.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, at some point the deputy saw this trailer, as
my understanding.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Okay, maybe it's sold in early April. Would you do
you do you know when he saw it. I'd have
to I'd have to go back and chat.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Okay, on the date, Corey says she sold it to
a friend of a friend for one thousand dollars. Weber
asked if she has some sort of receipt, and Corey
says she's sure she signed something, but he gave her cash.
And actually, trailers don't have to be registered in Oklahoma,
so there's no official paper trail.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
What was a trailer got to do with it? Was mine,
it wasn't Telena's.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
So okay, Well, the only reason it has to do
with anything is just because my understanding he was there
one day and now it's not. And so I'm just
trying to Yeah, I'm looking at anything that's, you know,
seems unusual. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's anything. It just
means I'm answering questions ahead of people asking him.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
What I'm getting from all these questions is that people
online have already made up their mind because they can't
find resolution somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Corey seems frustrated by the line of questioning. Why is
Weber cow telling to these nosy internet hacks with nothing
better to do.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I'm asking questions because they're throwing suspicion on me, and
it would be dumb of me not to ask because
I need to. I need to be able to honestly
say I've done everything we can do yes. We've checked
everywhere we can check.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
And if I don't ask these questions, someone's going to
go why didn't you ask that?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I want that too.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Detective Weber adds if the online sleuths start hassling her,
she should reach out to the sheriff's department for help.
He too, seems a little fed up by their persistence.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You're not going to solve it online. Nobody's gonna find
her on Facebook. But by god, there's plenty of theories.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
So and I told Nicole last time I talked to her,
and I haven't talked to her.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Probably a week.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
But I said, these crime junkies with their miss information,
and there are little bits of information that aren't enough
to make an intelligent you know, jump from point A
to point B.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
You're probably going to do more damage than good.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Because you're going to divert focus from maybe where it
needs to be.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
So I said, prove me wrong. Have your crime junkies
finder prove me wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
During the interview, which lasts more than two hours, Corey
agrees to do anything to help clear her name, including
allowing the sheriffs into the house to test for bloodstains,
So there's this.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
There's a fear going around that and just being completely
honest with you, yes, please, people think you killed her
in the house and so and that's and again nobody
has any reason to think that. It's just they feel something.
My thought was, we have a we have a chemical.
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I don't know if you know what luminol is, but
it's something similar to that, where luminol is just sort
of a mist. We can squirt on the floor or something,
uh huh, and it will illuminate blood and that kind
of thing.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
And so my thought was, we can come, we could
spray the floors and you know that would help us.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I guess, you know, if that's what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And without prompting, she also offers to take a polygraph
to rule her out as a suspect.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
So let's whatever we have to do to get to
that point.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Okay, I mean, I'll.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Take a lie detector test. You guys can bring the canines.
I don't care what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Next episode on What Happened to Tolenazar, the amateur investigation
starts to take its wole on Jess.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
And lied to a lot of people, a lot friends,
of Telena's friends of Marty's. Sometimes I felt like I
was in over my.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Head and the police obtain evidence that throws the timeline
of Telena's disappearance into question.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
This final post appears suspicious and unlikely to have come
from Telena or her cellular phone.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
What Happened to Telenazar is a production of iHeart Podcasts.
It's written, reported, and hosted by me Melissa Jelson, with
writing and story editing by Lauren Hansen. Our executive producer
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English and Carl Catel. Fact checking by Savannah Hugley. Zoey
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Corey. She had a place out west of the Scotin
and she had some animals and dogs, cats, horses, dogs
and all kinds of stuff over there.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is Greg Thompson, the local handyman who did small
jobs for Tolena. When Corey moved into Teleina's house fresh
office separation from her husband, she came with a menagerie
of animals, both big and small.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
She had to do something with all the animals and
all the corrals and everything. They went with them. Then
here's old Greg. That's me. I volunteered to help Corey
and we moved all of her stuff over to Chilina's house.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Talina was a huge animal lover and she welcomed Corey's
cats and dogs into her home. The larger animals that
couldn't fit were placed with her neighbor and house cleaner
named Billy Shieltz.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Billy had a pretty good size yard. We sent and
she put the donkeys in there. They were a little
miniature donkeys and she liked them. They were cute. And
they had this horse. It was like thirteen or fourteen
years old, super old, and it was like a horse
made out of toothpicks in paper. I mean it was
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so skinny. I was like, Corey, what's up with that horse?
And she goes, well, I've had people report me to
the law and everything else about that horse. But I
have a vet that says that it's sick, and you know,
we're just trying to let it live. It live its
life out. I don't want to put it down. You know,
we're letting it live and it eats, it drinks, it
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did everything a horse should have done. It just looked awful.
A couple of months go by and the old horse
finally passes away, and Corey calls me like nine or
ten o'clock at night and asks me if I had
access to a back and I'm like, no, I don't.
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I have a tractor, but it doesn't dig holes like that.
I said, okay, well maybe I can get some help
from a neighbor over here. Okay. So a couple of
days go by, I end up over at Billy's. I said,
what happened to the horse? We're being up burying it
and she goes, well, we didn't end up burying it.
(02:24):
And I'm like, well, what happened to it? It's not
here and she goes, well, Cory, Butcher, that thing, and
I'm like what she said? Yeah, she keut that horse
up in tiny little pieces and put it in black
trash bag and put it in the back of the
Pontiac six thousand and hauled it out to Muskogie and
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dumped it out for the kyak And I'm like, what,
who does that? And so I've read it to Cory
and we got talking about it. I said, can't you?
And she said it took.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Me a long time.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I was able to do it and said I just
thought it was fitting to take it back out there
where it had lived all its life and trying to
return it back to nature. And Okay, that's freaking weird,
but okay, whatever, And I'm like, who even knows how
to do something like that?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
From iHeart Podcasts, I'm Melissa Jelson And this is what
happened to Teleina Zar.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Just because they're missing doesn't mean anything was nefarious.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
All of us wear mass.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
How well did I adapt to being property?
Speaker 7 (04:04):
Well?
Speaker 5 (04:04):
That depends on whether you ask me or master.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Lol.
Speaker 8 (04:08):
He would talk and talk and talk, so he'd give
us information. He'd give us names, he would give us
phone numbers. The first thing I would say was, how's
your roommate going, and she always answered the best I've
ever had.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
There's still part of me thinking that maybe someone will
just call and say she's sick somewhere. Most of me
is saying that when I get that phone call, it's
going to be because someone found her. I'm supposed to
identify her.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Episode four, The Mattress.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
We had some meat from a fundraiser that our kids
were doing at the school. It was like shausage meat.
I don't know if you've ever heard of Blue and Gold,
but it's kind of a big deal down here in
the Oklahoma, Texas area. It's really good stuff. Selena had
already pre paid pretty items, and I didn't want to
keep that even though she was missing.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
At this point, about a week after Teleina disappears, her
friend Aris stops by her house and meets with her
roommate Corey. The purpose of Aris's visit is twofold. She's
dropping off some meat that Teleina had ordered, and also
picking up a mattress of Telena's which had been promised
to her son. She's just moved into a new house
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and Telena had been instrumental in helping to furnish it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
So we get there we see Corey. We asked, you know, hey,
how you holding up Daddy? Heard anything? They're like no,
they hadn't heard anything from Teuleina.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Corey meets Aris at the door, but doesn't invite her in.
She's worried that the virus could still be lingering inside
and doesn't want Aris to get sick.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
She said that to reduce the possibility and exposure there,
we should stay.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Outside, standing on the front porch. Aris asks about the
match and learns that it's gone.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
The bed that we were going to be given was
burned in the backyard. Corey burned it because the CDC
told her to because Telena believed she had COVID.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Burning Teleina's bed in the backyard strikes Eiris as an
extreme reaction to COVID, but then again, so is the
decision to shut down businesses and schools. I mean, people
were spraying their groceries with lyesol before touching them. It
was a weird time. Luckily, Corey says there's another mattress
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she can take instead, and so Aris and her husband
loaded up. Before they leave, Aris brings Corey the sausage
meat you want.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I take the sausage out of my car. I go
hand it to her and I say, hey, this is
the stuff that Telena paid for. You know, even though
she might not be here right now, I would rather
go to the house to pay for it. She looked
at me and said, you guys should go ahead and
take it. Our fread is stuffed full of meat.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Not long after, Greg bumped into Corey in town.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
She was filing a missing persons report for Calena. She
had this big mask on like you would use for
like painting or something, you know, to keep the fumes up.
We had talked for a minute and I expressed my
concern about Helena missing and was asking her do you
know where she could possibly have gone.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
The two compare notes and theories for a few minutes,
and then Corey asks Greg for some help at the house.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
She asked me to come over and pick up some
scrap metal in their yard, but they've accumulated for haul
off trash or something like that.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Later that day, Greg drives over to Telena and Corey's.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
So I get over there to pick up Corey's strap metal,
and it was Telena's headboard from her bed and what
was left of the mattress that I had just put
on there. It had been burnt and all that was
left was a metal wire frame that's inside the mattress.
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You know, We're loading this stuff up on there, and
I'm like, is this Tuena's bed, and shot, oh, yeah,
this is the sick bed. This is where Telena was
so sick, and you know, to get rid of the
germs and this and that, I just earned it all.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Greg loads his trailer with the metal bed frame and
heads towards the recycling center.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I pulled up on the scale and the ladies behind
the windows, you know, she's looking at all my stuff
and tell me to pull uh. And she walks out
there and she goes, what size of the headboard is that?
I told her I think it's Queen or Keene whatever,
and you're you might if I had it. Then I'm like,
I don't care, because my daughter is looking for a
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headboard and I think that one would be perfect. I
gave it to her, and so I went ahead and
got rid of all my strap and went on about
my day.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
That evening, Greg finds himself recounting this story to a friend.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm telling my buddy this as we're sitting in the garage,
and he said, do you not think that he just
got rid of it edity and a possible crime. And
I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (09:35):
I mean, it was just really really weird things were happening.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
This is Rachel another Wagner friend of Telena's.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
Everybody's you know, reaching out to each other and it's like,
has anybody seen Telena or has anybody here heard from Telena?
There was nothing, nothing, And people reached out to Cory
have you heard from her? And Corey like blowing it
off and stuff. No, she's sick, she's up in the
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woods and whatnot. And the whole situation was just weird.
But COVID was starting to ramp up and people were
starting to get sick and stuff right around that time,
and you know, we all tried several weeks to reach
out to Corey and Telena and stuff and just never
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heard anything.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
There's a pretty big group of people in Wagner looking
for Telena now Rachel airis Greg and his wife Marty
aka Wolfe and his wife Lorie, as well as other neighbors,
even Telena's hairdresser Kim. They put up flyers and organize
a vigil.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Wolfe had this little get together at our local fire departments.
It was to bring awareness to Helena's disappearance. I didn't
go to it that. My wife just popped in doctor
Wolfe and his wife and some other people that were there,
and she noticed that Corey wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
The thing about Corey is she's a recent transplant. She's
been living with Telina for less than a year. And
the Wagoner friends they start to have the same nagging
feeling how well did any of them really know her.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
My wife went over to the house and Corey met
her at their you know, answered the front door, but
just barely cracked it and then came out. She wouldn't
let her in the house. And Billie sheielded the lady
that was cleaning their house. She went over there and
Corey wouldn't let her in.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
There was really only one person in town who had
a long standing relationship with Corey. That was Marty Woolfy,
that met more than a decade earlier at Gorefest.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Wolfe had called me and asked Kelly a week or
two afterwards if I had noticed anything about Corey. I
said no, everything seemed to be business as usual. I mean,
she seemed probably a little too nonchalant. When more than
one person started asking me if I'd noticed anything is
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when I started to really start to question every interaction we.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Had, with suspicions raised. Aris looks back over her text
messages with Teleina before she disappeared, and she starts to think,
some of these messages don't sound like Telena. Talna had
reached out to Aris on March twenty eighth and asked
her to swing by for the mattress, but at the
last minute Teleina canceled.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
We were supposed to go over that morning, and we
got a message that said, I have a migraine. I'm
going to stay in you know, abart mission.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Whatever, abort mission. I've got a terrible migraine. I've been
staying in bed today.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Okay, not in common, but I'd noticed she had packed
it differently. She normally has a pattern of how she
types that you know, uppercase, properly, punctuated, grammatically correct, and
that wasn't it. Initially I just wrote it off as
she might have a migraine, like, clearly has a migraine, so,
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you know, not keeping up with the grammar.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
A number of Telena's friends are also questioning the legitimacy
of Telena's final Facebook post, like Rachel, who was skeptical
about it from the moment she read.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
It, but literally just talked to her a couple of
days before a messenger and she was, fine.
Speaker 7 (13:39):
I'm on day nine of this virus and I am
pretty sure it has reached my lungs.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
We had talked about COVID. She didn't seem particularly worried
about it. She didn't seem to be like the sky
is falling kind of thing, which is what this post
sounded like.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I made the decision at the onset that if it
got bad enough, I would not go to the hospital, And.
Speaker 9 (14:07):
At the time when I read it, I'm like, that
just sounds weird. That doesn't sound like Telena.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Telena's friends in Wagner are growing distrustful of Corey, and
so are the online sleuths.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
We all had reservations about Corey, Like nothing she said
or did make sense. Why was she being like so
sketchy about everything?
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Really, the biggest the biggest one was trying to figure
out who Corey was and and her history and you know,
where did she come from. After we found out about
the Gorrians, we started deep diving Corey. So we googled
Corey and found out she had a criminal history, a felony.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
According to the documents they can access. Six years earlier,
Corey was arrested and charged in Madison, Wisconsin for using
someone else's credit card.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
Her criminal records will pop up online and it said
she had used credit cards at different places.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
This discovery is interesting, but the online sleuths know enough
from their true crime shows that a past charge for
a nonviolent crime doesn't prove anything.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
A lot of us said, well, just because she's a
thief does not mean she's a murderer. That doesn't It's
not the same thing.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So they keep digging, developing a basic profile for Corey.
They learned that she grew up on a dairy farm
in Wisconsin with her mother, father, and one brother, and
since she left home, it seems as though she's traveled
a fair bit. They find addresses for her in at
least four states.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
We found out she had like thirteen different aliases, and
I was like, who the hell needs thirteen aliases? And
then I look myself up and I see I have
two different you know, my name is two different times
because I had been married. And then my maid name,
and I was like, that makes sense to have one
or two, but then thirteen. So we start googling like
her life and we download this app where you can
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get background checks on people. We see who she was
married to, and then we start reaching out to people
she was married to.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Not afraid to cold call strangers, Jess identifies two ex
husbands and reaches out first up David Sachs, who Corey
married in the nineteen eighties. His father owned a casino
in mob Era, Las Vegas. Jess has a few conversations
with him, and he offers some color about Corey, like
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the fact she'd once worked in a coroner's office, but
he hasn't seen her in decades. Her second husband is
more helpful. Alexander Adams is a Celtic musician who Corey
met in Oregon when she was an event coordinator. They
spent fourteen years together, traveling the country for gigs and
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releasing music online. Alexander Adams or Alec as he goes by,
is receptive to Jess's questioning. He's in Wisconsin, but he's
heard about Tolina's disappearance and wants to help however he can.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
He tells Jess some of.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Their backstory, filling in gaps in her research. Alec is
in the Renaissance festival circuit. In fact, he'd met Marty
slash Wolfe at the annual Oklahoma Renaissance Festival some years back.
Alec tells Jess that Marty loved his music and asked
him to come to his private event, Gorefest. Corey went too.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
He invited Alec back to Gorfest to perform at the festival,
and he invited them back, like, hey, come perform for us.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
You know it's going to be great, and they went.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's here at Gorfest in the early two thousands where
Telena first meets Corey. The online sleuths are developing a
better picture of who Corey is from their conversations with Marty,
Corey's ex husbands and the research into her past, and
then they find something huge.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
She used eBay to make a living. She'd sell stuff
on eBay and that's how she'd make money. And that
gave us the idea to look on eBay to see
what she's been selling. We'd all take turns kind of
creeping on it every day, like checking to see if
anything was up that was weird.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
One day, Nicole Telena's friend in Tennessee notices that Corey
is selling things that had been in to Lena's house.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
Looking at old pictures of her house and you would
see that she was selling things off.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Little by little.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
You could see clock in the background of a picture,
and then it was there on her eBay.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
We had seen her selling Telena's stuff, some clothes, these
metal like lawn flowers that she had gotten, I guess
Nicole had said. Telina was very excited about these lawn flowers.
They're like metal. She had bottomed a flea market or something,
and she loved them, and we just we were all like,
what is going on here? Why is she selling this stuff?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Aside from just some trinkets and collectibles, they saw some
of Telena's most treasured belongings for sale.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
Her wedding ring to Tom was on there, and she
would never ever ever sell that wedding ring. And when
I saw that, and I saw his medals he was
awarded in the Army, I knew that there was no
way that she would have sold those things.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Nicole comes up with a plan to get the items
back without Corey catching on.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
I contacted my cousin and I asked her just to
buy them that I would pay her for them. She
lived in another state in Louisiana, and so I thought
that she would not knows me.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Nichole's cousin wins the bid. Corey packs up the wedding
ring and some of Tom's military medals and ships it off.
Niicole's cousin then forwards the package to her. Armed with
this evidence, Nicole contacts the cops, so does Jess, but
the response they get is not as enthusiastic as they hoped.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
At first, it was like, Okay, thank you, we're getting
a lot of tips, you know, thank you. We appreciate it.
And we were really hyped up about the eBay thing.
I was like, hey, this is huge.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's been twenty two days since Telena's cryptic Facebook post.
From the perspective of the online sluice, the cops aren't
doing anything.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
I was mad. I think all of us were mad.
We were like, what the hell, it's plain's day, what
she's doing?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
The Jess and the others aren't privy to what's going
on behind the scenes. On April twenty ninth, Detective Joel
Webber and a colleague go to Telena's property a brown,
rustic lake house set back from the road. Corey invites
them in and gives them a tour. It's the first
time law enforcement has gone inside the house. She shows
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them around the living areas and the bedrooms where she
and Telena slept. Here's how Detective Weber later described his visit.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
In that initial kind of walk through of the house,
there was several things that kind of, I guess stood
out a little bit. One of the things was in
the office room, there was a map on the wall
that had a lot of arrows on it. They weren't
drawn on the map. It came like from the distributor
or whoever, with those arrows on it, and it said
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like the missing four one one on it or something
like that. And I asked Corey what that was or
what it was for, and Corey said it was just
all of the arrows indicated people that had gone missing
in national forests around the United States. I thought that
was significant. I made a mental note. There was a
map of missing people on the wall, and I'm there
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looking for a missing person. It seemed unusual. I think
I went into I think I went into every room
and then also in the yard.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Corey shows Weber around the yard, the garage, and then
he leaves. Meanwhile, the Sheriff's office is being inundated with
tips from friends, locals, psychics, and the online sleuths, and
a large number of them point at Corey. About a
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week later, Detective Weber asked Corey to come back into
the station to address some of the rumors that have
been circulating. Here's a recreation of parts of their conversation.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Okay, good, I forgot a pen, So all right, just
had some fallow up cues from we talked about before.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, you probably.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Already know that people on the internet are already talking
and saying lots of things.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
And there's one gal online that you know, between some
misinformation and some fabrication.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's unfortunate, right, everyone wants to be a detective.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, it seems that Corey knows about Jess and the
fine to Lena's our Facebook group, she's been lurking online.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I'm getting told a lot of random stuff and a
lot of and I'll be completely honest with you, a
lot of people are pointing suspicion at you.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Detective Weber starts asking Corey about some of the tips
his office has received, beginning with questions about Corey's criminal record.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
All Right, somebody brought up at some point that you
were charged with something and I don't remember what state, Okay,
Wisconsin or in Wisconsin Wisconsin?
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Yes, so what happened in a nutshell? My husband?
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Corey explains that a number of years ago, she and
her then husband, Alexander Adams, the Celtic musician, moved to Middleton, Wisconsin,
where her mom lives.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
My husband and I spent every penny we had to
move to Wisconsin, and we went through a tough time
where we didn't have much money.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Corey tells Detective Weber that she became good friends with
a man who lived next door, and one day this
neighbor gave Corey his wife's credit card to use so
she could get some groceries and gas. He said Corey
could pay him back later.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Well, the wife was jealous of him and I for
no reason, and she had a canary and she pressed charges.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Corey says, at first she was booked for a misdemeanor,
but the wife was making a lot of fuss and
so they elevated the charges to a felony. Ultimately, she
says it never went to trial. She got two years probation.
It was all a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
No probation violations during the two years.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
None, No, they move on.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Okay, Well, one other thing came up, and that was
the allegedly somebody thinks you're selling things on eBay that
belonged to Tom, that belonged to Tolena, that were her
deceased husband's.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Stuff, and that is very possible. But there are things
that Telena has been giving me of Tom's for the
past two years, okay, to sell online, So there's nothing
sold that shouldn't be sold. And quite frankly, as her executor,
she told me, when I'm gone, do whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
With everything, and I haven't. I mean, there's most stuff
is still there.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Corey reminds Weber that legally, she's in charge of Telena's
a state in the event of Telena's death. Weber responds
that it's really too early for her to be taking
on that role.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well, and I don't maybe it's not even my place
to say anything, but I don't want you. What can
make you look worse or look bad to some people
is that she's not she's not been found. Uh huh,
She's not dead as far as we know, so doing
(26:43):
things as an executor before we know she's dead is presumptuous.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I like to imagine that. Weber takes a dramatic pause here,
looks Corey in the eye, has a little staring contest,
then looks down at his notes. Weber switches gears, brings
up something his deputies mentioned.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
They said there was some sort of travel trailer or
a trailer of some sort in the driveway.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Oh, a white cargo trailer.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
It's sold. It's sold. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
And so the reason I ask is because someone brought
that up and I said, I didn't see a trailer
when I was in the driveway.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No, we sold that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
When when did that sell?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I think it was either mid March late March, March
a couple of months ago.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Well, at some point the deputy saw this trailer, as
my understanding.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Okay, maybe it's sold in early April. Would you do
you do you know when he saw it. I'd have
to I'd have to go back and chat.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Okay, on the date, Corey says she sold it to
a friend of a friend for one thousand dollars. Weber
asked if she has some sort of receipt, and Corey
says she's sure she signed something, but he gave her cash.
And actually, trailers don't have to be registered in Oklahoma,
so there's no official paper trail.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
What was a trailer got to do with it? Was mine,
it wasn't Telena's.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
So okay, Well, the only reason it has to do
with anything is just because my understanding he was there
one day and now it's not. And so I'm just
trying to Yeah, I'm looking at anything that's, you know,
seems unusual. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's anything. It just
means I'm answering questions ahead of people asking him.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
What I'm getting from all these questions is that people
online have already made up their mind because they can't
find resolution somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Corey seems frustrated by the line of questioning. Why is
Weber cow telling to these nosy internet hacks with nothing
better to do.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I'm asking questions because they're throwing suspicion on me, and
it would be dumb of me not to ask because
I need to. I need to be able to honestly
say I've done everything we can do yes. We've checked
everywhere we can check.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
And if I don't ask these questions, someone's going to
go why didn't you ask that?
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I want that too.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Detective Weber adds if the online sleuths start hassling her,
she should reach out to the sheriff's department for help.
He too, seems a little fed up by their persistence.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
You're not going to solve it online. Nobody's gonna find
her on Facebook. But by god, there's plenty of theories.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
So and I told Nicole last time I talked to her,
and I haven't talked to her.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Probably a week.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
But I said, these crime junkies with their miss information,
and there are little bits of information that aren't enough
to make an intelligent you know, jump from point A
to point B.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
You're probably going to do more damage than good.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Because you're going to divert focus from maybe where it
needs to be.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Uh huh.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
So I said, prove me wrong. Have your crime junkies
finder prove me wrong.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
During the interview, which lasts more than two hours, Corey
agrees to do anything to help clear her name, including
allowing the sheriffs into the house to test for bloodstains,
So there's this.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
There's a fear going around that and just being completely
honest with you, yes, please, people think you killed her
in the house and so and that's and again nobody
has any reason to think that. It's just they feel something.
My thought was, we have a we have a chemical.
(31:05):
I don't know if you know what luminol is, but
it's something similar to that, where luminol is just sort
of a mist. We can squirt on the floor or something,
uh huh, and it will illuminate blood and that kind
of thing.
Speaker 7 (31:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
And so my thought was, we can come, we could
spray the floors and you know that would help us.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
I guess, you know, if that's what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And without prompting, she also offers to take a polygraph
to rule her out as a suspect.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
So let's whatever we have to do to get to
that point.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Okay, I mean, I'll.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Take a lie detector test. You guys can bring the canines.
I don't care what you have to do.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Next episode on What Happened to Tolenazar, the amateur investigation
starts to take its wole on Jess.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
And lied to a lot of people, a lot friends,
of Telena's friends of Marty's. Sometimes I felt like I
was in over my.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Head and the police obtain evidence that throws the timeline
of Telena's disappearance into question.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
This final post appears suspicious and unlikely to have come
from Telena or her cellular phone.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
What Happened to Telenazar is a production of iHeart Podcasts.
It's written, reported, and hosted by me Melissa Jelson, with
writing and story editing by Lauren Hansen. Our executive producer
is Ryan Murdoch. For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are Jason
English and Carl Catel. Fact checking by Savannah Hugley. Zoey
(32:50):
Denkla is our associate producer. Jeremy Thal is our editor.
Original music by Aaron Kaufman with additional music by Jeremy
Thal and Gideon Crevische. Additional sound designed by Marita Spee.
Episodes are mixed and mastered by Carl Catle. Voice acting
by Lizzie Gore, Chris Ferry, Stephanie Frame, Pete Monica, and
(33:12):
Molly Maslin. Our logo is designed by Edo Moore. Thanks
so much for listening.
Host
Melissa Jeltsen
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