May 5, 2021 • 39 mins
In honor of Mother’s Day week, Heidi is joined by 5 pregnant moms from across the country to answer their biggest pregnancy and parenting questions. They cover visitors and germs, gestational diabetes, picking the right doctor, the truth about morning sickness, and so much more! Heidi and the What To Expect family are wishing the entire community a happy and healthy Mother’s Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Who baby, my baby off. I need you, Oh Hell,
I need you. What to Expect is a production of
I Heart Radio. I'm your host Heidi Murko, and I'm
a mom on a mission, a mission to help you
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know what to expect every step of the way. If
you know me, you know I love moms. I also
love hanging out with them, whether it's in person or
on social media, whether it's in South Carolina or South Korea.
And the easiest place for me to connect with moms
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is in the What to Expect community. So if I
could talk to the oh for twenty million moms in
our What to Expect family right now, I totally would.
Logistically we couldn't figure that out. So instead, in honor
of Mother's Day this week, we have a very special episod,
So we've invited five What to Expect moms from across
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the country, in all different stages of their pregnancies, here
today to share their pregnancy journeys and ask their biggest
pregnancy questions. Those questions may sound a little familiar, because
though every pregnancy is different, just like every pregnant mom,
we all have questions. And today we're going to cover
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as many questions as we can. We're gonna talk about
morning sickness and gestational diabetes, switching doctors and much more.
And at the end we're doing a fun speed round
all about pregnancy. We have Amy, Adriana Mignon, Candice and
Lindsay all joining us today. So let's start with Amy. Hi, Hi,
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so happy to have you here. And Amy, you're you're
in Michigan and you have four year old right I do?
Oh yes, very rambunctious four year olds A daughter. What's
her name? Her name is Rose, and I may or
may not have looked and seen her pictures on Instagram.
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She is adorable. Thank you. Let's just get that out
of the way. But I do wonder how has this
pregnancy been different from your pregnancy with her. Well, I'd say,
first off, due to COVID, it's been you know, actually
a blessing in a way because I've been able to
stay home and you know, with her, I was working
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full time all the way pretty much until like a
few weeks before I had her. So I'm kind of
more aware of everything that's going on. I'm not like
stracted too much by work. You know, I noticed a
lot of similarities. I feel like I was able to
predict like how I would feel a little bit, but
there are some differences. I have a little bit more
like swelling this type around. But it's been a really
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good pregnancy, I have to say, like I um and
coarse the beginning in the first trimester, I had a
little bit of morning sickness, but it pretty much disappeared.
And with her I had some sciatic pain. I don't
know if that's like I was more on my feet,
you know, when I was working full time when I
was pregnant with her. Yeah, it probably has something to
do with the fact that everything loosens up more the
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second time, and you don't have as much support from
your muscles as you did in your ligaments. So yeah,
everything hurts a little bit more. But certainly sitting a
lot and being at home that can increase welling too.
So right, yeah, I try to stay active all I
feel like this pregnancy has been pretty good. So I
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feel really grateful. Good news, good news. We love good news.
So is your daughter Rose is. She's super pumped about
the new baby coming. She's very excited now, Heidi. I like,
we'll see what happens when baby get here. But it's
very very excited right now. I think it's gonna be
a really good age gap too, because she's kind of
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like really coming into her independence and she I think
she's gonna be very helpful, you know so, But I'm
sure it'll still be a shock when babies here all
the time. Take your cues from her, like she may
get over the baby stuff for she may be totally
into it forever. My daughter Emma would breastfeed her dolls
and her teddy bears, like when I was breastfeeding her
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brother Wyatt. It's just, you know, go with the flow. Now.
You are hoping for a vaginal birth this time, right,
you had a c section last time? Yeah, I am
and um my O b G y an, I do
have the same one this time that I had last time.
He did say I was a good candidate for it
and everything. But I do know that I could go
either way, you know, but he he said I was
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a good candidate to at least attempt it and try
for it. Honestly, I wouldn't be heartbroken either way. But
I did have a little bit of a hard recovery
with my c section from her um. I just had
to go through some physical therapy and stuff to really
kind of get things feeling back to normal. So it
took a couple of months for me to kind of
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recover from it all the way. But on the other hand,
I was thinking, well, I know what to expect if
I do have to go into it this time, it
won't be such a shock, you know, but I'm hoping
for it. Yeah, if you have a doctor's on board,
that's the most important thing. But I hear you have
a question not about birth, but about when you bring
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that baby home and visitors, right, So this is something
I was noticing. Like, I'm like the community forums people
have been disgusting too, but I was kind of wondering
what you thought about, you know, like masking, Like do
you suggest that people who haven't gotten the vaccine should
be wearing a mask or on the baby or even
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visiting or I mean, I know it's a touchy subject,
but it's just, you know, something you want to think about.
I've got to say that, you know, in a way,
this is another silver lining of COVID is that we
are live meetting guests. You know, it's actually the kind
of the perfect excuse not to have guests when the
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new baby comes home, and that's good for a lot
of reasons. The most important reason is that it gives
you a chance as a family, just the four of you.
Now it's going to be all to bond together without
outside interference. And I know sometimes the interference can be helpful. Um,
you know, they bring cast roles or you know, but
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they can leave the cast roles at the door. I'm
just saying. But they also bring germs. I think it's
a really good thing that COVID has made us more
aware of germs, especially for newborn babies. Yeah, there was
always like yes for six weeks babies immune systems still
needs some beefing up, so you know, limit the gas.
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But we weren't masking back then. And I feel like
most doctors are going aside on on caution right now
and say mass are a good eye you not only
for those who have not been vaccinated, but even for
those who have. And keep in mind that, you know,
COVID's been our primary concern for over a year, but
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there are many other germs out there and it's important
to keep babies away from those two. So I talked
to a pediatrician the other day. He said, you know what,
let's just go with a two month rule. You know,
one baby has that first set of shots. You know,
there's nothing magical about that number, but it's a good milestone.
So up until that point, visitors should wear masks, okay,
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And if you're going out, you want to be super careful,
you know, where your baby. That's the best way to
keep your baby away from Germany people. I feel like
playing a safe even if the grandparents have been vaccinated,
and of course they have to get their tea depths
as well, so that everybody around the baby can cocoon
the baby until she is old enough to have all
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of her vaccines um and of course if you had
the COVID vaccine, you're going to be giving her antibodies
against COVID as well, which is another good thing, very helpful.
Thank you so much for your input. I really appreciate it.
And if anyone gives you a hard time, you send
them to me directly. Yes, totally, thank you, Thank you, Amy.
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And now next we are welcoming Adrianna from Florida. How
are you doing? Oh? Great? So you have a ten
year old boy named Jason, and I've got to ask,
first of all, what's it like having an age difference
like that in terms of the pregnancy, Like everything's changed,
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right in ten years. It's completely different, completely different. I
mean just everything. How care is baby stuff and go
buy it? It's so different. Now. How different has this
pregnancy been. It's been a lot different, you know, um
just being that I am ten years older now, so
my body is a lot different. Anyways. But with with
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my son, I had a very very healthy pregnancy, and
with this one, I've usually been diagnosed with gestational diabetes.
I've had some part complications, nothing too crazy, but um
so it's just a little more scary this go around.
So the gestational diabetes took you by surprise. You had
morning sickness both times? Right, Yeah, super bad. I got
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diagnosed with h D both times. Oh that's hyperas that's
really tough. How long did it last with my son?
It was up until I was seven months pregnant. And
then with this one, they finally found a medication that
worked for me, so I only had it until about
sixteen weeks. What medication worked, it was pro mephezy So
God send drug. Yeah that's good to know with your
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g D. What questions do you have about that? I
just wanted to know about. You know, what snacks do
you recommend, because I'm having a hard time with my
fasting umbers, Like all my other numbers are perfect, it's
just being that fast number where it needs to be.
So the whole idea when you have gestational diabetes. But
actually this is a good tip for anyone who's pregnant.
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I call it the six meal solution, right, and it's
essentially breaking up everything you eat into smaller amounts and
focusing on the two categories of food that will sustain
your blood sugar the best, and that's complex carbs and protein.
So there are certain snacks that are better than others
for keeping your blood sugar level. Has your doctor booked
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you up with a nutritionist at all? So I did
speak to a diabetic nutritionist, but she was very vague
on what to eat. So it's like, you know, three
things for breakfast, three things for lunch, three things for
then I was like, I'm gonna die. Yeah, you need
more variety, girl, Yeah, that's no fun. So years and
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I mean to pay ending on how much they restrict
the carbs, and complex carbs are always a better idea,
of course than refined carbs. So if you can stick
to whole grains. But also how much fruit they allow
you is are their restrictions on that? Yeah? I have
to limit my fruit and take, which is really sad
because my number one creating is those little cuties. Oh
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that's terrible. Which fruits are they allowing you? Um? I
can have berries, so raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, that's great. I'm
I'm thinking, you know, if you can live on substantial snacks,
that's always the best way to go, you know, eating
at least five or six times a day. And have
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you found something called I trust me. I don't own
any stock in this company, but I discovered it like
years ago and I tell every pregnant woman about it.
Moon Cheese. It's freeze dried cheese. It's like genius. I
know they make it in other brands now, but it's
crunchy little nuggets of cheese that are not perishable, so
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you can take them with you anywhere you go. Um, Nuts, almonds, walnuts, pistachios,
all of those are great. Do you like eggs? I mean,
I know they can make a stink, but deviled eggs
or horribled eggs also those egg bites. Have you ever
seen those. Those are awesome. You can also make those
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and store them in the freezer so you always have
some handy Um. Have you ever tried a baked egg
in an avocado? No, it's delicious. Top it with a
little salt if you're feeling spicy. Um, a smoothie with
like Greek yogurt and maybe some frozen berries. That's a goodie. Also,
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what about some almond butter on apple slices. That's probably
my favorite to see. You've got some amazing snag ideas. Okay,
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so next we're going to Atlanta to visit with Ninon. Hey, Minoon,
So you are having a boy. Yes, I'm having a boy.
We found out two weeks ago. So so excited. That's
so exciting. And this is your first my first, Yes,
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that's so cool. What has been your favorite part of
pregnancy so far? Honey? This hair is like growing like grass.
I have never felt so beaut I was telling my
boyfriend the other day. I was like, I feel so beautiful,
like I'm always I grew up having like skin problems
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acne even into adulthood, and every once in a while
I still have, like, you know, a few little things
that pop up and like just my skin is glowing,
I my hair, I just I feel like a different
form of beauty and womanhood. It's it's so, it's like undescribable.
I love that. Yeah. Yeah, there's something about being pregnant.
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It's super sexy and um unfortunately, not every mom feels
that great when she's pregnant. But it sounds like you're
having a pretty easy ride. Well, you know in the beginning. Well,
so my background, I'm a professional bodybuilder, so I'm used
to looking a certain way throughout the year. The biggest
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transition for me was just really seeing my body go
through changes that I had never seen it go through before.
And I have a lot of my pro bodybuilder friends
that have babies, they've been pregnant and they were like
just embraced the process. So when I let go of
that mindset of like what I used to look like
and just embraced being a mother, that's when it became
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beautiful to me. So you have a question, and that
is about your doctors. Yes, yes, so I Um, I
chose my doctor, my O B from a friend of
mine who had twins and she had a great experience,
so I got the referral from her and my experience
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has not been quite so great. Um. And so I
talked to other friends that also have babies, and they
referred me to other people. I'm trying to transition from
one practice to another, and I know it's business, so
it's not going to hurt their feelings that I leave,
But I just want to know what should I know
going to the next practice, Like what questions should I
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have for the next physician and for the next practice
so that I don't experience the same thing. Oh? Absolutely,
isn't it funny how we always think about the doctor's feelings. Yeah,
but no, if you're not happy with those people, you're
seeing too many different doctors. Maybe you're seeing a different
one at every appointment. Um, and there's not consistency, and
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you're just not feeling like anybody gets you or taking
the time to get you. That's not good. You need
to feel comfortable with a person who is going to
deliver your baby. And the biggest red flag for me
was I had fibroids back in twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen.
I got them shrunken in seventeen they're starting to grow back,
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And that was like my first question, and it just
kept getting brushed off and brushed off and brushed off
until I had my twenty week um ultrasound and they're like,
oh my, your fibroids are pretty close to your cervix um.
We might need to do a c section, but we'll
monitor the growth up until you know it's time to deliver.
And I'm like, I brought this up when I first
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came in and guys kept brushing it all, so that
was a big red flag to me. That is a
huge red flag. And I don't know if you other
moms have had this experience, but I hear it all
the time. You know that the doctor just doesn't listen
or underplays, dismisses concerns that you have. Who has lived
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in your body your whole life, you have you know
it's a partnership. There needs to be communication between you,
and that gets exceptionally important later in pregnancy, during birth
and also postpartum. You know a lot of times women
are not listened to and symptoms are ignored. So you've
got to persevere, trust your mom, got and find a
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doctor who you feel is going to listen. I mean,
it's possible you could go to a practice where there's
midwives and doctors because that way you have, you know,
you get the best of all worlds. The other good
thing to look into is having a do law. I
recommend that for every mom. But they're there just for
you and to advocate you. So no matter who the
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doctor ends up being UM and you never know because
even if you switch practices and you go to a
really amazing doctor, they might not be on call then
night that your baby decides to come, and so that
you want to make sure you have an advocate with
you at all times. But the most important thing is
that you don't leave your old doctor until you get
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a new one, because you don't want to be uncovered
for even five seconds. So go have some pre interviews
with various doctors. If you've asked around and you have
some good candidates. Asked those questions about your five woids
and anything else that's on your mind, UM, and you'll
get a sense just from listening to the answers what
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kind of communication skills they actually have, and that's important.
You also, of course have insurance to consider UM the
hospital that you want to deliver at, you know, you
have to make sure that they have privileges and deliver
at that hospital, one that's close to you, and one
that has a good reputation. So once you do that
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and you've settled on a practice that you like, then
you can even out or call the office and just say,
could you please transfer my records to this new practice.
That's it, Okay. So I'm in that process now, and
that records are transferred to the new office, then I
can make an appointment. So I'm happy with the person
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that I chose. Um, she just had a baby for
I think five months ago. Obviously it's from experience, so
oh that's perfect. So we're gonna move on. Candice. Candice
is here from Texas. Hello, I hear that you had
kind of uh long struggle within fertility. Yeah. I was
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a student athlete. Um, so I played sports my whole life. Um,
losing your period is normal during season, but then mine
never came back and my foot I was in college.
It wasn't my focus or worry. Fast forward about five
six years, I still had no period, and so finally
I saw a doctor. Um, he had to refer me
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to someone else to referred me to a specialist. You know,
I'm with my husband. We're talking about a family. So
we meet my ari and go to a fertility doctor
right away. He diagnosed me. He's like, I know what
you have, malic amnrhea. Fix this um. Getting that diagnosis
right away, Like, I feel really terrible for people that
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are unexplained because there's no goal to work towards. So
for me, I knew what I had, so I knew, okay,
I need to like not work out as much, I
need to try to gain weight. I did all those things.
I didn't ag retrieval. We transferred, and we transferred a
boy embryo and I found out it didn't stick. Found
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out at work. But then you know, we we have
to move forward. We have two other embryos. We also
had done an I U I before I v f UM.
We had a few canceled cycles due to health issues
with my family and me having to go home, but
then COVID hit UM, so we got delayed. Then we decided,
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since we only had two more embryos left and we
wanted more than two kids and we didn't know what
would happen with the next one, we decided to do
another egg retrieval. So we went through that process again
and then it got delayed because my husband got COVID,
so we couldn't transfer. Um. So it at that point
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it was if you don't laugh, you cry, and it
was like, of course, this all right, this is what happens,
this is our story. It's gonna make it sweeter when we,
you know, share with the news with everyone. So then
August we did the transfer. This time we said we
don't want to know, we don't care, picked the best embryo,
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and then we found out that we were pregnant. We
got the call. We cried each other's arms, called our
families and cried until this day. We don't know if
we have a boy or girl because we to wait,
and I mean going through the trauma of ibia, like
we just literally just want to helpy baby. So I'm
so so happy for you and excited for you. I
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know all the moms here are now after all that,
just please tell me you how to really easy pregnancy.
I like to say I did my time because it's
been a breeze and it almost was like I wanted
to have morning sickness. So I wanted to have something
because I needed that reassurance. I was so worried all
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the time. Anything I would do like I don't have
symptoms are we sure I'm pregnant, but yeah, I mean
it's been really easy. And I almost kind of feel
guilty for saying that, because I know there's like other
people who have had a lot of difficulties um during
the pregnancy, but I feel like I did my time
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and then and then, yeah, I'm just worried my baby
um was breached last time I got a sonogram. Because
being an IVF patient, were monitored more heavily, so I
have twice as many appointments. But my worry was that
I don't want to have a c section. I want
to be able to recover faster. And so I was
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doing a lot of research about like breach babies and go.
When you're pregnant, you don't have much control over what
your body is going to do, and then being an
IVF patient, you feel even less control. So I've been
doing a lot of different yoga poses or something to
try to get my baby to be head down um.
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And I had asked my midwife if they delivered breach babies,
and she talked about a doctor having to break someone's
pelvic phone because the head got stuck. Yeah, So I
mean the reality is that fewer than five percent of
babies end up breach when it's all said and done,
when labor starts. UM. Actually know a mom whose baby
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flipped during labor, actually flipped the wrong way, so she
ended up with a breach baby after the baby was
head down. Now, the baby was really small, so smaller
babies have more room for moving around and flipping. But
it happens. I mean, it doesn't happen a lot. It's
actually pretty rare. But those you know, those few cases
of breech birth, like unless it's a super easy, you know,
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frank breach and the but it's butt down. Um, they
usually do go first section. But there's so much time.
You're only thirty three weeks. There's so much time for
your baby to flip anyway at this point. And they
can do that way up until you know, close to delivery,
or like I said, even in labor once in a while.
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And they can also do external cephalic version, which is
where the doctor turns the baby manually from the outside.
That's another option, but I wouldn't worry about it at
this point. And it sounds like babies moving towards the
exit in the right direction at this point. I've been
doing everything in my control to make sure that happens.
I like put little earbuds there and played music so
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it or the warm in the cold, yes, yeah, and
turn um. But butt up, I mean butt up is
if you're going to do anything, just keep your butt up.
So lindsay you're from California, So now you had a
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really rough first trimester. So rough, I mean like Candice
when you were talking earlier about like I feel bad,
Like don't feel bad, you know, feel so grateful, and
I know you probably do. But I had a really
rough go the first I mean I found out early.
I found out like I don't even think I was
four weeks. And then by five weeks I think, I
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like woke up and I told my husband, like with
so much arrogance, I was like, oh God, like I
don't even feel pregnant, like I have barely any symptoms.
This is gonna be a breeze for me. And then
I swear the next day I was flattened on my back.
It was like famous last words. Um. And that was
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around five weeks and then probably five to eight weeks
I was like, I truly I would have if I
were working full time in an office. Um, I would
have had to take a sick leaf. I mean I
truly could not get up. I had to either sleep
or get on the couch to just like change it
up and then go back to bed again. It was awful,
And I guess for me, I had no idea how
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bad it could get. I think sometimes, um, you know,
of course, you don't know it until you're in it, right,
Like people can say they relate only so much and
only to a certain degree. But you hear the term
morning sickness, and you yeah, hilarious, right, I mean, of
course we all know that it's not just in the
morning it could be. For me, it was all day,
everyday sickness. Well any were seven, yes, it was twenty
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four seven sickness. So I had truly no idea how
how bad it could get. So to me, I guess
I'm just like, I'm really wondering why. And again I know, uh,
there were very few people in my life who had
experienced the you know, degree of sickness that I did. Um, like,
nobody in my family, none of my close girlfriends. I
really just was not prepared. But to think that, you know,
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we don't really I know, so many women go through
it and then when their baby comes to like, oh,
you just forget all about it and that's why you
can have more babies. And Adriana, I know you said
you had hyperomesis up until seven months, like you're probably
feeling some like even greater than what I have been
experiencing because my you know, fortunately only went to about
fifteen weeks. It feels a little sad that we're kind
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of dismissing morning sickness is just all one more like
normal symptom of pregnancy. And you know, it feels like
our only options are like ginger candies, which are laughable
that doesn't work, or crackers, which also like feels like
a big f you, and then also um like scary
prescriptions that you have to really weigh out risks for.
So it doesn't feel like we have really come a
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long way in that. And you know, I read somewhere
that you know, the early twentieth century that this was
listed under hysteria, like female hysteria or something like that,
which just drove me nuts to think about. Right, well,
so much of women's health has been in that general
category of hysteria. Um, and so you're so right about that,
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and I think a lot of it is patrenalistic. You know,
let's face it, if you haven't had debilitating I'm using
air quotes here, then you don't have the slightest clue.
So the most you know, empathetic of doctors, um truly
cannot feel what you're going through and may, you know,
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may underplay it. And that's not okay. I mean there
are options that are not as scary. I don't know
what you tried, whether I'm just cliges. I tried so fran,
I tried from ethazine, I tried reguland I tried vitamin
B six and uh, you know some I mean I've
I've tried it all. The only the only thing that
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helped for me was was having dofran on hand at
all times. And I'm a little bit holistic. I'm a
little bit you know California who who. I'll be the
first to admit it. I don't love taking medicine period.
So the idea of taking a medicine like while I'm
pregnant that has like a lot of controversy around it
was not something that I loved. But like a girlfriend
of mine who was ahead of me and our pregnancy,
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she was like you just have to survive. If you
don't survive, if you don't eat, if you don't drink,
if you don't have you know, some management over your
stress levels, and that's not good for baby either. That's
absolutely true, and I mean that's why we have what
to expect as a community is to open up those
conversations and tell it like it is, because it isn't
all you know, rainbows and unicorns. You just snapp and yeah, well,
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good news is I'm sixteen weeks and I haven't been
sick in over a week. So a corner, I'm so happy.
I feel like a different person. I forgot what it
feels like to feel normal, So you never know. Now
we're gonna do something called speed round. We could call
it a lightning round, but I don't know if any
of you have had lightning crotch yet, and I don't
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want to, like I did, I think twice terrible. Yeah,
So we're gonna go around and get your answers to
these questions. And this is my favorite one. What was
your weirdest pregnancy symptom? Or lindsay you were too busy
throwing up? I was gonna say, like the aside from
being completely ill for fourteen weeks. I don't know. Veins
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on my boobs. I had no idea what that was.
I'm like covered in veins. It's odd. It looks like
a road map. Yeah, I remember that. Anybody else I
would say weird dreams. Um, that was not something I
remember with my first this one. So many weird dreams.
I don't know if it's just like my mind spinning
at night or what. But yeah, it's the hormones talking.
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And the fact that you you have more rem sleep,
which is dream sleep when you're pregnant. You have more dreams,
but you also wake up to pee, so you, uh,
you wake up during a dream and then you're more
likely to remember it. But the fact that they're so
vibrant and strange, sometimes very sexual or very violent. They
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have all different kinds of themes. You know. There's always
the theme about, oh my god, I just drank a
whole picture of Martini's, you know, and a plate of
sashimi or something like that. Just like the guiltful and
guilt dreams. They are normal. Okay, so anybody else have
a weird pregnancy something here? But it's disgusting. It was
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first try Mr. The gas was off the chain. I
would be so embarrassed to be around myself, like I
would be in the grocery store and of course you
can't help it, and I would try to get away
from people. It was so bid. That is so so common.
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You can keep a dog with you and always say
it was I think the weirdest thing for me. Like
I you guys know, I said, I didn't really have
any symptoms, but there was one day I was brushing
my teeth and I gagged. Huh, So that to me,
I was like, what what is this? And that happened.
I think there was the first trimester, and I thought,
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is your body just so in tune that you're not
going to get food poisoned or anything. Like You're more
likely to throw something up than ingest something that is
bad for you and your baby, so your gag reflexes
are heightened. There's also the fact that you have so
much drool in the first timester often, and when you're
drooling a lot, then you tend to gag a lot.
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You might have a lot of gagging nocturnal gagging too,
So they are all kinds of blessings. Um, how about
we're pregnancy food cravings or versions. I couldn't eat meat
in the first part and I usually me eater, but
no meat in that first trimester. It would just even
the smell, like I was diagnosed with low iron at
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the beginning, so I had really weird, like kind of
cool like I loved like lysol. Oh my gosh, I
wanted to clean clank clinks. I couldn't get enough that smell. Yeah,
that's called pike. And when you craze something that's not
a food, So yeah, you don't want to necessarily um
spray it like in your mouth. But that does commonly
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mean that you have an iron deficiency, and that could
also go for chewing ice And pretty much every woman
becomes anemic at some point, usually after twenty weeks, so
they'll typically test for it. But if you have one
of those strange nonfood cravings, you always always check with
the doctor. Okay, do you have a nickname for your baby?
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At Adriana, we call ours pancake. Pancake. Oh my god,
that's so cute based on what So when the day
that we found out we were pregnant, our favorite YouTube
family also found off they were pregnant and they were
trying to be secretive, the mom and the daughter trying
to be secretive about the pregnancy, and the kids running
and go what are we having? What are we having?
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And the dad runs down he goes, we're having pancakes.
So ever since then, we've been calling the baby pancake.
And I told my son because he was like, oh,
my gosh, you're so sick all the time. I was like, oh,
it's the pancakes. He's like, my mom's allergic to pancakes.
That's a keeper, Okay, mignon Um. We've always in our mind,
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even like a year and we were dating years ago,
we would call him BJ because his name is Robert,
so like Bobby's always call him be J. The baby.
It's nothing like spectacular, but yeah, that's super cute. Candice, Well,
we don't know the gender, but we named our baby
either way, so it's fin or Finley. I don't mind
saying that. So if we're not saying baby because we
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can't say he or she and we don't want to
say it, it's a way for us to connect because
knowing the gender, you're able to I think get that
connection more. I'm connected, but not to the extent of
knowing I have a boy or girl growing in me. Um,
So by having that name association, it's able I'm able
to connect more with the baby that's in me. That's
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totally adorable. Amy, how about you while we're naming our
daughter eleanor um and right now my daughter is taking
a liking to calling her alle in my belly. It's
too cute, Okay, Lindsay Europe, we don't know what we're
having either. We're gonna wait, and I've just been calling
like a little one, little or a little one or bubba.
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We do a lot of bubba. What's one nice thing
you've done for yourself this week or plan to? Because
this is really important. We need some pampering ourselves. So
what's one nice thing you're going to do for yourself.
I'm getting a lymphatic drainage massage and I've been doing
it like once every few weeks and it just like
helps me deep bloat. I feel really relaxed, like and
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I'm kind of detoxing after. But it's really safe. You
just can't do it on your belly obviously, but it
feels so good at that and yoga yay. How about you, Adriana,
I'm going to get my nails done. That's important. Yeah, excited, amazing, Okay, Minon,
how about you. I actually gave myself like a at
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home spotty. So I just drew a bath. I got
that thing called bump boxes, like my friend gave it
to me for my birthday. So it had like the
little lavender salts in there, so I put those in there.
I bought this like steam facial machine from Amazon with
like my favorite essential oils, and just like gave myself
a self care Sunday spotty. So that was very necessary.
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Oh so nice. Yeah, and Candice, we had a trip
to Europe plan that was canceled from COVID, and so
I got pregnant, so we canceled the trip and instead
we're doing a staycation. We're going to Dallas a nice
hotel and taking our dog. We're gonna go hiking and
then um just get massages, like a couple of massage,
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have dinner at the hotel, and just stay one night there.
And it's our five year one anniversary too, so the
time it was sorry and Amy, how about you? I'm
with you And I've done a lot of the bands.
They've been taking a lot of Yeah, you guys, I
just chapped all my here and went to the salon.
Usually I'm really love here, like six inches cut off,
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so I'm like still getting used to it. But that
was the big thing, Like going to the salon yesterday.
Looks good, super cute, super cute. It'll be easy care,
yeah for sure. Yeah. Okay, guys, I could talk to
you all day. I may have already done that, but
it's so much fun to hang out with you, and
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I hope that we can do it again soon. And
if I end up anywhere else Atlanta, Michigan, I'm gonna
I'm gonna totally get in touch. Thank you, guys. And
Happy Mother's Day you, I mean every day is Mother's Day,
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and all the moms listening today, I want to wish
you a very very happy Mother's Day. Lots of love
and lots of hugs, baby love, my baby love. I
need you, Oh how I need you. Thanks for listening.
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know what to expect every step of the way. If
you know me, you know I love moms. I also
love hanging out with them, whether it's in person or
on social media, whether it's in South Carolina or South Korea.
And the easiest place for me to connect with moms
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is in the What to Expect community. So if I
could talk to the oh for twenty million moms in
our What to Expect family right now, I totally would.
Logistically we couldn't figure that out. So instead, in honor
of Mother's Day this week, we have a very special episod,
So we've invited five What to Expect moms from across
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the country, in all different stages of their pregnancies, here
today to share their pregnancy journeys and ask their biggest
pregnancy questions. Those questions may sound a little familiar, because
though every pregnancy is different, just like every pregnant mom,
we all have questions. And today we're going to cover
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as many questions as we can. We're gonna talk about
morning sickness and gestational diabetes, switching doctors and much more.
And at the end we're doing a fun speed round
all about pregnancy. We have Amy, Adriana Mignon, Candice and
Lindsay all joining us today. So let's start with Amy. Hi, Hi,
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so happy to have you here. And Amy, you're you're
in Michigan and you have four year old right I do?
Oh yes, very rambunctious four year olds A daughter. What's
her name? Her name is Rose, and I may or
may not have looked and seen her pictures on Instagram.
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She is adorable. Thank you. Let's just get that out
of the way. But I do wonder how has this
pregnancy been different from your pregnancy with her. Well, I'd say,
first off, due to COVID, it's been you know, actually
a blessing in a way because I've been able to
stay home and you know, with her, I was working
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full time all the way pretty much until like a
few weeks before I had her. So I'm kind of
more aware of everything that's going on. I'm not like
stracted too much by work. You know, I noticed a
lot of similarities. I feel like I was able to
predict like how I would feel a little bit, but
there are some differences. I have a little bit more
like swelling this type around. But it's been a really
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good pregnancy, I have to say, like I um and
coarse the beginning in the first trimester, I had a
little bit of morning sickness, but it pretty much disappeared.
And with her I had some sciatic pain. I don't
know if that's like I was more on my feet,
you know, when I was working full time when I
was pregnant with her. Yeah, it probably has something to
do with the fact that everything loosens up more the
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second time, and you don't have as much support from
your muscles as you did in your ligaments. So yeah,
everything hurts a little bit more. But certainly sitting a
lot and being at home that can increase welling too.
So right, yeah, I try to stay active all I
feel like this pregnancy has been pretty good. So I
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feel really grateful. Good news, good news. We love good news.
So is your daughter Rose is. She's super pumped about
the new baby coming. She's very excited now, Heidi. I like,
we'll see what happens when baby get here. But it's
very very excited right now. I think it's gonna be
a really good age gap too, because she's kind of
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like really coming into her independence and she I think
she's gonna be very helpful, you know so, But I'm
sure it'll still be a shock when babies here all
the time. Take your cues from her, like she may
get over the baby stuff for she may be totally
into it forever. My daughter Emma would breastfeed her dolls
and her teddy bears, like when I was breastfeeding her
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brother Wyatt. It's just, you know, go with the flow. Now.
You are hoping for a vaginal birth this time, right,
you had a c section last time? Yeah, I am
and um my O b G y an, I do
have the same one this time that I had last time.
He did say I was a good candidate for it
and everything. But I do know that I could go
either way, you know, but he he said I was
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a good candidate to at least attempt it and try
for it. Honestly, I wouldn't be heartbroken either way. But
I did have a little bit of a hard recovery
with my c section from her um. I just had
to go through some physical therapy and stuff to really
kind of get things feeling back to normal. So it
took a couple of months for me to kind of
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recover from it all the way. But on the other hand,
I was thinking, well, I know what to expect if
I do have to go into it this time, it
won't be such a shock, you know, but I'm hoping
for it. Yeah, if you have a doctor's on board,
that's the most important thing. But I hear you have
a question not about birth, but about when you bring
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that baby home and visitors, right, So this is something
I was noticing. Like, I'm like the community forums people
have been disgusting too, but I was kind of wondering
what you thought about, you know, like masking, Like do
you suggest that people who haven't gotten the vaccine should
be wearing a mask or on the baby or even
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visiting or I mean, I know it's a touchy subject,
but it's just, you know, something you want to think about.
I've got to say that, you know, in a way,
this is another silver lining of COVID is that we
are live meetting guests. You know, it's actually the kind
of the perfect excuse not to have guests when the
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new baby comes home, and that's good for a lot
of reasons. The most important reason is that it gives
you a chance as a family, just the four of you.
Now it's going to be all to bond together without
outside interference. And I know sometimes the interference can be helpful. Um,
you know, they bring cast roles or you know, but
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they can leave the cast roles at the door. I'm
just saying. But they also bring germs. I think it's
a really good thing that COVID has made us more
aware of germs, especially for newborn babies. Yeah, there was
always like yes for six weeks babies immune systems still
needs some beefing up, so you know, limit the gas.
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But we weren't masking back then. And I feel like
most doctors are going aside on on caution right now
and say mass are a good eye you not only
for those who have not been vaccinated, but even for
those who have. And keep in mind that, you know,
COVID's been our primary concern for over a year, but
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there are many other germs out there and it's important
to keep babies away from those two. So I talked
to a pediatrician the other day. He said, you know what,
let's just go with a two month rule. You know,
one baby has that first set of shots. You know,
there's nothing magical about that number, but it's a good milestone.
So up until that point, visitors should wear masks, okay,
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And if you're going out, you want to be super careful,
you know, where your baby. That's the best way to
keep your baby away from Germany people. I feel like
playing a safe even if the grandparents have been vaccinated,
and of course they have to get their tea depths
as well, so that everybody around the baby can cocoon
the baby until she is old enough to have all
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of her vaccines um and of course if you had
the COVID vaccine, you're going to be giving her antibodies
against COVID as well, which is another good thing, very helpful.
Thank you so much for your input. I really appreciate it.
And if anyone gives you a hard time, you send
them to me directly. Yes, totally, thank you, Thank you, Amy.
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And now next we are welcoming Adrianna from Florida. How
are you doing? Oh? Great? So you have a ten
year old boy named Jason, and I've got to ask,
first of all, what's it like having an age difference
like that in terms of the pregnancy, Like everything's changed,
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right in ten years. It's completely different, completely different. I
mean just everything. How care is baby stuff and go
buy it? It's so different. Now. How different has this
pregnancy been. It's been a lot different, you know, um
just being that I am ten years older now, so
my body is a lot different. Anyways. But with with
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my son, I had a very very healthy pregnancy, and
with this one, I've usually been diagnosed with gestational diabetes.
I've had some part complications, nothing too crazy, but um
so it's just a little more scary this go around.
So the gestational diabetes took you by surprise. You had
morning sickness both times? Right, Yeah, super bad. I got
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diagnosed with h D both times. Oh that's hyperas that's
really tough. How long did it last with my son?
It was up until I was seven months pregnant. And
then with this one, they finally found a medication that
worked for me, so I only had it until about
sixteen weeks. What medication worked, it was pro mephezy So
God send drug. Yeah that's good to know with your
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g D. What questions do you have about that? I
just wanted to know about. You know, what snacks do
you recommend, because I'm having a hard time with my
fasting umbers, Like all my other numbers are perfect, it's
just being that fast number where it needs to be.
So the whole idea when you have gestational diabetes. But
actually this is a good tip for anyone who's pregnant.
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I call it the six meal solution, right, and it's
essentially breaking up everything you eat into smaller amounts and
focusing on the two categories of food that will sustain
your blood sugar the best, and that's complex carbs and protein.
So there are certain snacks that are better than others
for keeping your blood sugar level. Has your doctor booked
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you up with a nutritionist at all? So I did
speak to a diabetic nutritionist, but she was very vague
on what to eat. So it's like, you know, three
things for breakfast, three things for lunch, three things for
then I was like, I'm gonna die. Yeah, you need
more variety, girl, Yeah, that's no fun. So years and
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I mean to pay ending on how much they restrict
the carbs, and complex carbs are always a better idea,
of course than refined carbs. So if you can stick
to whole grains. But also how much fruit they allow
you is are their restrictions on that? Yeah? I have
to limit my fruit and take, which is really sad
because my number one creating is those little cuties. Oh
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that's terrible. Which fruits are they allowing you? Um? I
can have berries, so raspberries, blueberries, strawberries, that's great. I'm
I'm thinking, you know, if you can live on substantial snacks,
that's always the best way to go, you know, eating
at least five or six times a day. And have
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you found something called I trust me. I don't own
any stock in this company, but I discovered it like
years ago and I tell every pregnant woman about it.
Moon Cheese. It's freeze dried cheese. It's like genius. I
know they make it in other brands now, but it's
crunchy little nuggets of cheese that are not perishable, so
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you can take them with you anywhere you go. Um, Nuts, almonds, walnuts, pistachios,
all of those are great. Do you like eggs? I mean,
I know they can make a stink, but deviled eggs
or horribled eggs also those egg bites. Have you ever
seen those. Those are awesome. You can also make those
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and store them in the freezer so you always have
some handy Um. Have you ever tried a baked egg
in an avocado? No, it's delicious. Top it with a
little salt if you're feeling spicy. Um, a smoothie with
like Greek yogurt and maybe some frozen berries. That's a goodie. Also,
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what about some almond butter on apple slices. That's probably
my favorite to see. You've got some amazing snag ideas. Okay,
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so next we're going to Atlanta to visit with Ninon. Hey, Minoon,
So you are having a boy. Yes, I'm having a boy.
We found out two weeks ago. So so excited. That's
so exciting. And this is your first my first, Yes,
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that's so cool. What has been your favorite part of
pregnancy so far? Honey? This hair is like growing like grass.
I have never felt so beaut I was telling my
boyfriend the other day. I was like, I feel so beautiful,
like I'm always I grew up having like skin problems
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acne even into adulthood, and every once in a while
I still have, like, you know, a few little things
that pop up and like just my skin is glowing,
I my hair, I just I feel like a different
form of beauty and womanhood. It's it's so, it's like undescribable.
I love that. Yeah. Yeah, there's something about being pregnant.
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It's super sexy and um unfortunately, not every mom feels
that great when she's pregnant. But it sounds like you're
having a pretty easy ride. Well, you know in the beginning. Well,
so my background, I'm a professional bodybuilder, so I'm used
to looking a certain way throughout the year. The biggest
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transition for me was just really seeing my body go
through changes that I had never seen it go through before.
And I have a lot of my pro bodybuilder friends
that have babies, they've been pregnant and they were like
just embraced the process. So when I let go of
that mindset of like what I used to look like
and just embraced being a mother, that's when it became
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beautiful to me. So you have a question, and that
is about your doctors. Yes, yes, so I Um, I
chose my doctor, my O B from a friend of
mine who had twins and she had a great experience,
so I got the referral from her and my experience
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has not been quite so great. Um. And so I
talked to other friends that also have babies, and they
referred me to other people. I'm trying to transition from
one practice to another, and I know it's business, so
it's not going to hurt their feelings that I leave,
But I just want to know what should I know
going to the next practice, Like what questions should I
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have for the next physician and for the next practice
so that I don't experience the same thing. Oh? Absolutely,
isn't it funny how we always think about the doctor's feelings. Yeah,
but no, if you're not happy with those people, you're
seeing too many different doctors. Maybe you're seeing a different
one at every appointment. Um, and there's not consistency, and
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you're just not feeling like anybody gets you or taking
the time to get you. That's not good. You need
to feel comfortable with a person who is going to
deliver your baby. And the biggest red flag for me
was I had fibroids back in twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen.
I got them shrunken in seventeen they're starting to grow back,
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And that was like my first question, and it just
kept getting brushed off and brushed off and brushed off
until I had my twenty week um ultrasound and they're like,
oh my, your fibroids are pretty close to your cervix um.
We might need to do a c section, but we'll
monitor the growth up until you know it's time to deliver.
And I'm like, I brought this up when I first
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came in and guys kept brushing it all, so that
was a big red flag to me. That is a
huge red flag. And I don't know if you other
moms have had this experience, but I hear it all
the time. You know that the doctor just doesn't listen
or underplays, dismisses concerns that you have. Who has lived
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in your body your whole life, you have you know
it's a partnership. There needs to be communication between you,
and that gets exceptionally important later in pregnancy, during birth
and also postpartum. You know a lot of times women
are not listened to and symptoms are ignored. So you've
got to persevere, trust your mom, got and find a
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doctor who you feel is going to listen. I mean,
it's possible you could go to a practice where there's
midwives and doctors because that way you have, you know,
you get the best of all worlds. The other good
thing to look into is having a do law. I
recommend that for every mom. But they're there just for
you and to advocate you. So no matter who the
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doctor ends up being UM and you never know because
even if you switch practices and you go to a
really amazing doctor, they might not be on call then
night that your baby decides to come, and so that
you want to make sure you have an advocate with
you at all times. But the most important thing is
that you don't leave your old doctor until you get
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a new one, because you don't want to be uncovered
for even five seconds. So go have some pre interviews
with various doctors. If you've asked around and you have
some good candidates. Asked those questions about your five woids
and anything else that's on your mind, UM, and you'll
get a sense just from listening to the answers what
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kind of communication skills they actually have, and that's important.
You also, of course have insurance to consider UM the
hospital that you want to deliver at, you know, you
have to make sure that they have privileges and deliver
at that hospital, one that's close to you, and one
that has a good reputation. So once you do that
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and you've settled on a practice that you like, then
you can even out or call the office and just say,
could you please transfer my records to this new practice.
That's it, Okay. So I'm in that process now, and
that records are transferred to the new office, then I
can make an appointment. So I'm happy with the person
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that I chose. Um, she just had a baby for
I think five months ago. Obviously it's from experience, so
oh that's perfect. So we're gonna move on. Candice. Candice
is here from Texas. Hello, I hear that you had
kind of uh long struggle within fertility. Yeah. I was
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a student athlete. Um, so I played sports my whole life. Um,
losing your period is normal during season, but then mine
never came back and my foot I was in college.
It wasn't my focus or worry. Fast forward about five
six years, I still had no period, and so finally
I saw a doctor. Um, he had to refer me
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to someone else to referred me to a specialist. You know,
I'm with my husband. We're talking about a family. So
we meet my ari and go to a fertility doctor
right away. He diagnosed me. He's like, I know what
you have, malic amnrhea. Fix this um. Getting that diagnosis
right away, Like, I feel really terrible for people that
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are unexplained because there's no goal to work towards. So
for me, I knew what I had, so I knew, okay,
I need to like not work out as much, I
need to try to gain weight. I did all those things.
I didn't ag retrieval. We transferred, and we transferred a
boy embryo and I found out it didn't stick. Found
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out at work. But then you know, we we have
to move forward. We have two other embryos. We also
had done an I U I before I v f UM.
We had a few canceled cycles due to health issues
with my family and me having to go home, but
then COVID hit UM, so we got delayed. Then we decided,
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since we only had two more embryos left and we
wanted more than two kids and we didn't know what
would happen with the next one, we decided to do
another egg retrieval. So we went through that process again
and then it got delayed because my husband got COVID,
so we couldn't transfer. Um. So it at that point
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it was if you don't laugh, you cry, and it
was like, of course, this all right, this is what happens,
this is our story. It's gonna make it sweeter when we,
you know, share with the news with everyone. So then
August we did the transfer. This time we said we
don't want to know, we don't care, picked the best embryo,
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and then we found out that we were pregnant. We
got the call. We cried each other's arms, called our
families and cried until this day. We don't know if
we have a boy or girl because we to wait,
and I mean going through the trauma of ibia, like
we just literally just want to helpy baby. So I'm
so so happy for you and excited for you. I
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know all the moms here are now after all that,
just please tell me you how to really easy pregnancy.
I like to say I did my time because it's
been a breeze and it almost was like I wanted
to have morning sickness. So I wanted to have something
because I needed that reassurance. I was so worried all
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the time. Anything I would do like I don't have
symptoms are we sure I'm pregnant, but yeah, I mean
it's been really easy. And I almost kind of feel
guilty for saying that, because I know there's like other
people who have had a lot of difficulties um during
the pregnancy, but I feel like I did my time
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and then and then, yeah, I'm just worried my baby
um was breached last time I got a sonogram. Because
being an IVF patient, were monitored more heavily, so I
have twice as many appointments. But my worry was that
I don't want to have a c section. I want
to be able to recover faster. And so I was
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doing a lot of research about like breach babies and go.
When you're pregnant, you don't have much control over what
your body is going to do, and then being an
IVF patient, you feel even less control. So I've been
doing a lot of different yoga poses or something to
try to get my baby to be head down um.
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And I had asked my midwife if they delivered breach babies,
and she talked about a doctor having to break someone's
pelvic phone because the head got stuck. Yeah, So I
mean the reality is that fewer than five percent of
babies end up breach when it's all said and done,
when labor starts. UM. Actually know a mom whose baby
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flipped during labor, actually flipped the wrong way, so she
ended up with a breach baby after the baby was
head down. Now, the baby was really small, so smaller
babies have more room for moving around and flipping. But
it happens. I mean, it doesn't happen a lot. It's
actually pretty rare. But those you know, those few cases
of breech birth, like unless it's a super easy, you know,
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frank breach and the but it's butt down. Um, they
usually do go first section. But there's so much time.
You're only thirty three weeks. There's so much time for
your baby to flip anyway at this point. And they
can do that way up until you know, close to delivery,
or like I said, even in labor once in a while.
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And they can also do external cephalic version, which is
where the doctor turns the baby manually from the outside.
That's another option, but I wouldn't worry about it at
this point. And it sounds like babies moving towards the
exit in the right direction at this point. I've been
doing everything in my control to make sure that happens.
I like put little earbuds there and played music so
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it or the warm in the cold, yes, yeah, and
turn um. But butt up, I mean butt up is
if you're going to do anything, just keep your butt up.
So lindsay you're from California, So now you had a
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really rough first trimester. So rough, I mean like Candice
when you were talking earlier about like I feel bad,
Like don't feel bad, you know, feel so grateful, and
I know you probably do. But I had a really
rough go the first I mean I found out early.
I found out like I don't even think I was
four weeks. And then by five weeks I think, I
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like woke up and I told my husband, like with
so much arrogance, I was like, oh God, like I
don't even feel pregnant, like I have barely any symptoms.
This is gonna be a breeze for me. And then
I swear the next day I was flattened on my back.
It was like famous last words. Um. And that was
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around five weeks and then probably five to eight weeks
I was like, I truly I would have if I
were working full time in an office. Um, I would
have had to take a sick leaf. I mean I
truly could not get up. I had to either sleep
or get on the couch to just like change it
up and then go back to bed again. It was awful,
And I guess for me, I had no idea how
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bad it could get. I think sometimes, um, you know,
of course, you don't know it until you're in it, right,
Like people can say they relate only so much and
only to a certain degree. But you hear the term
morning sickness, and you yeah, hilarious, right, I mean, of
course we all know that it's not just in the
morning it could be. For me, it was all day,
everyday sickness. Well any were seven, yes, it was twenty
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four seven sickness. So I had truly no idea how
how bad it could get. So to me, I guess
I'm just like, I'm really wondering why. And again I know, uh,
there were very few people in my life who had
experienced the you know, degree of sickness that I did. Um, like,
nobody in my family, none of my close girlfriends. I
really just was not prepared. But to think that, you know,
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we don't really I know, so many women go through
it and then when their baby comes to like, oh,
you just forget all about it and that's why you
can have more babies. And Adriana, I know you said
you had hyperomesis up until seven months, like you're probably
feeling some like even greater than what I have been
experiencing because my you know, fortunately only went to about
fifteen weeks. It feels a little sad that we're kind
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of dismissing morning sickness is just all one more like
normal symptom of pregnancy. And you know, it feels like
our only options are like ginger candies, which are laughable
that doesn't work, or crackers, which also like feels like
a big f you, and then also um like scary
prescriptions that you have to really weigh out risks for.
So it doesn't feel like we have really come a
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long way in that. And you know, I read somewhere
that you know, the early twentieth century that this was
listed under hysteria, like female hysteria or something like that,
which just drove me nuts to think about. Right, well,
so much of women's health has been in that general
category of hysteria. Um, and so you're so right about that,
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and I think a lot of it is patrenalistic. You know,
let's face it, if you haven't had debilitating I'm using
air quotes here, then you don't have the slightest clue.
So the most you know, empathetic of doctors, um truly
cannot feel what you're going through and may, you know,
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may underplay it. And that's not okay. I mean there
are options that are not as scary. I don't know
what you tried, whether I'm just cliges. I tried so fran,
I tried from ethazine, I tried reguland I tried vitamin
B six and uh, you know some I mean I've
I've tried it all. The only the only thing that
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helped for me was was having dofran on hand at
all times. And I'm a little bit holistic. I'm a
little bit you know California who who. I'll be the
first to admit it. I don't love taking medicine period.
So the idea of taking a medicine like while I'm
pregnant that has like a lot of controversy around it
was not something that I loved. But like a girlfriend
of mine who was ahead of me and our pregnancy,
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she was like you just have to survive. If you
don't survive, if you don't eat, if you don't drink,
if you don't have you know, some management over your
stress levels, and that's not good for baby either. That's
absolutely true, and I mean that's why we have what
to expect as a community is to open up those
conversations and tell it like it is, because it isn't
all you know, rainbows and unicorns. You just snapp and yeah, well,
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good news is I'm sixteen weeks and I haven't been
sick in over a week. So a corner, I'm so happy.
I feel like a different person. I forgot what it
feels like to feel normal, So you never know. Now
we're gonna do something called speed round. We could call
it a lightning round, but I don't know if any
of you have had lightning crotch yet, and I don't
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want to, like I did, I think twice terrible. Yeah,
So we're gonna go around and get your answers to
these questions. And this is my favorite one. What was
your weirdest pregnancy symptom? Or lindsay you were too busy
throwing up? I was gonna say, like the aside from
being completely ill for fourteen weeks. I don't know. Veins
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on my boobs. I had no idea what that was.
I'm like covered in veins. It's odd. It looks like
a road map. Yeah, I remember that. Anybody else I
would say weird dreams. Um, that was not something I
remember with my first this one. So many weird dreams.
I don't know if it's just like my mind spinning
at night or what. But yeah, it's the hormones talking.
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And the fact that you you have more rem sleep,
which is dream sleep when you're pregnant. You have more dreams,
but you also wake up to pee, so you, uh,
you wake up during a dream and then you're more
likely to remember it. But the fact that they're so
vibrant and strange, sometimes very sexual or very violent. They
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have all different kinds of themes. You know. There's always
the theme about, oh my god, I just drank a
whole picture of Martini's, you know, and a plate of
sashimi or something like that. Just like the guiltful and
guilt dreams. They are normal. Okay, so anybody else have
a weird pregnancy something here? But it's disgusting. It was
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first try Mr. The gas was off the chain. I
would be so embarrassed to be around myself, like I
would be in the grocery store and of course you
can't help it, and I would try to get away
from people. It was so bid. That is so so common.
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You can keep a dog with you and always say
it was I think the weirdest thing for me. Like
I you guys know, I said, I didn't really have
any symptoms, but there was one day I was brushing
my teeth and I gagged. Huh, So that to me,
I was like, what what is this? And that happened.
I think there was the first trimester, and I thought,
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is your body just so in tune that you're not
going to get food poisoned or anything. Like You're more
likely to throw something up than ingest something that is
bad for you and your baby, so your gag reflexes
are heightened. There's also the fact that you have so
much drool in the first timester often, and when you're
drooling a lot, then you tend to gag a lot.
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You might have a lot of gagging nocturnal gagging too,
So they are all kinds of blessings. Um, how about
we're pregnancy food cravings or versions. I couldn't eat meat
in the first part and I usually me eater, but
no meat in that first trimester. It would just even
the smell, like I was diagnosed with low iron at
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the beginning, so I had really weird, like kind of
cool like I loved like lysol. Oh my gosh, I
wanted to clean clank clinks. I couldn't get enough that smell. Yeah,
that's called pike. And when you craze something that's not
a food, So yeah, you don't want to necessarily um
spray it like in your mouth. But that does commonly
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mean that you have an iron deficiency, and that could
also go for chewing ice And pretty much every woman
becomes anemic at some point, usually after twenty weeks, so
they'll typically test for it. But if you have one
of those strange nonfood cravings, you always always check with
the doctor. Okay, do you have a nickname for your baby?
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At Adriana, we call ours pancake. Pancake. Oh my god,
that's so cute based on what So when the day
that we found out we were pregnant, our favorite YouTube
family also found off they were pregnant and they were
trying to be secretive, the mom and the daughter trying
to be secretive about the pregnancy, and the kids running
and go what are we having? What are we having?
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And the dad runs down he goes, we're having pancakes.
So ever since then, we've been calling the baby pancake.
And I told my son because he was like, oh,
my gosh, you're so sick all the time. I was like, oh,
it's the pancakes. He's like, my mom's allergic to pancakes.
That's a keeper, Okay, mignon Um. We've always in our mind,
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even like a year and we were dating years ago,
we would call him BJ because his name is Robert,
so like Bobby's always call him be J. The baby.
It's nothing like spectacular, but yeah, that's super cute. Candice, Well,
we don't know the gender, but we named our baby
either way, so it's fin or Finley. I don't mind
saying that. So if we're not saying baby because we
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can't say he or she and we don't want to
say it, it's a way for us to connect because
knowing the gender, you're able to I think get that
connection more. I'm connected, but not to the extent of
knowing I have a boy or girl growing in me. Um,
So by having that name association, it's able I'm able
to connect more with the baby that's in me. That's
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totally adorable. Amy, how about you while we're naming our
daughter eleanor um and right now my daughter is taking
a liking to calling her alle in my belly. It's
too cute, Okay, Lindsay Europe, we don't know what we're
having either. We're gonna wait, and I've just been calling
like a little one, little or a little one or bubba.
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We do a lot of bubba. What's one nice thing
you've done for yourself this week or plan to? Because
this is really important. We need some pampering ourselves. So
what's one nice thing you're going to do for yourself.
I'm getting a lymphatic drainage massage and I've been doing
it like once every few weeks and it just like
helps me deep bloat. I feel really relaxed, like and
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I'm kind of detoxing after. But it's really safe. You
just can't do it on your belly obviously, but it
feels so good at that and yoga yay. How about you, Adriana,
I'm going to get my nails done. That's important. Yeah, excited, amazing, Okay, Minon,
how about you. I actually gave myself like a at
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home spotty. So I just drew a bath. I got
that thing called bump boxes, like my friend gave it
to me for my birthday. So it had like the
little lavender salts in there, so I put those in there.
I bought this like steam facial machine from Amazon with
like my favorite essential oils, and just like gave myself
a self care Sunday spotty. So that was very necessary.
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Oh so nice. Yeah, and Candice, we had a trip
to Europe plan that was canceled from COVID, and so
I got pregnant, so we canceled the trip and instead
we're doing a staycation. We're going to Dallas a nice
hotel and taking our dog. We're gonna go hiking and
then um just get massages, like a couple of massage,
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have dinner at the hotel, and just stay one night there.
And it's our five year one anniversary too, so the
time it was sorry and Amy, how about you? I'm
with you And I've done a lot of the bands.
They've been taking a lot of Yeah, you guys, I
just chapped all my here and went to the salon.
Usually I'm really love here, like six inches cut off,
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so I'm like still getting used to it. But that
was the big thing, Like going to the salon yesterday.
Looks good, super cute, super cute. It'll be easy care,
yeah for sure. Yeah. Okay, guys, I could talk to
you all day. I may have already done that, but
it's so much fun to hang out with you, and
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I hope that we can do it again soon. And
if I end up anywhere else Atlanta, Michigan, I'm gonna
I'm gonna totally get in touch. Thank you, guys. And
Happy Mother's Day you, I mean every day is Mother's Day,
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and all the moms listening today, I want to wish
you a very very happy Mother's Day. Lots of love
and lots of hugs, baby love, my baby love. I
need you, Oh how I need you. Thanks for listening.
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