Randi Zuckerberg

Randi Zuckerberg is the former director of market development and spokesperson for Facebook, and a sister of Mark Zuckerberg. After seven years at the company, Randi left to start her own entrepreneurial ventures and is now leading the charge in Web 3.

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(00:30):
Randy Zuckerberg is the former director of market development and
spokesperson for Facebook and a sister of Mark Zuckerberg. After
seven years at the company, Randy left to start her
own entrepreneurial venture and is now leading the charge in
Web three. Randy, you are one of four kids. What
was it like growing up in the Zuckerberg household? Definitely chaotic, Amy,

(00:55):
My hat is off to you, having grown up with
four kids. I bow down before mom before. I think
I didn't quite appreciate how challenging it must have been
until I had three kids of my own and it
was like, no way, there's a fourth here. But you know,
we grew up. It was like, I think people would
be shocked at how normal our household was growing up

(01:18):
and how kind of wildly different interests everyone had, and
you know, pretty sure I was like that mean bully
oldest sibling who like sent my my sisters to therapy
for years. So now now when I see my own
kids doing it to one another, it hits a little harder.
What's the age range between the four of you. Yeah,

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there's about about two years between everyone, two to three years.
So my poor mom spent about a full decade pregnant.
I once asked if I could borrow any of her
eighties clothing for an eighties party and she's like, sorry,
I only have maternity clothing from the eighties, Like that's
that's all I have. So I feel like the three
of us can relate to that now. Of course. Um,

(02:03):
you know, I thought I had my own independent life,
and then the pandemic hit and I had just had
a newborn baby, so we had just had the youngest,
and uh, I found myself back living with my parents
again for two years. So there you go, everything comes
full circle. Okay, So I want to go to Randy Zuckerberg,
the mogul, because I think that what's so incredible about

(02:27):
you is you've really been able to build your own
brand right and and a lot of people would think
that you, you know, being the older sister of Mark Zuckerberg,
that you would be in some way overshadowed. But you've
really developed your own following your own brand in your
own career. How have you done that? You know, it's

(02:48):
funny you say that. And I loved working at Facebook
and and starting my career there. I was in Silicon
Valley for almost a decade and it was just the
most incredible experience. But you're right. I had this kind
of moment in my early thirties where I realized if
someone wrote a book about the story of my life,
I wouldn't be the lead character in it. And that

(03:10):
was kind of a really shocking realization. And I think
it's a realization a lot of women have. I don't
think it's just like me having a famous brother. I
think a lot of women are the supporting character in
their own lives. And and I realized that in my
early thirties, and I was like, Okay, it is time
for a drastic change in my life right now. And

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that's when I feel like I really jumped in, as
you know, starting my own company, pursuing my own dreams
a lot more. And it's taken a long time. I think,
you know, probably took me almost a decade since then
for me to really feel like I was making an
impact on my own. What was the first day like
after you left Facebook? Um, well, it was kind of

(03:51):
a crazy ending because my my whole life, my dream
was to sing on Broadway. And I know that's silly,
A lot of people have that dream. I grew up,
I got realistic. I like went to work in technology
and Silicon Valley, and then I got a call out
of the blue. As thirty two years old, I got
a call out of the blue asking if I wanted

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to come star in Rock of Ages on Broadway, which
is an eighties rock musical. They were looking for a
tech personality to come star in their Broadway show. I
guess they couldn't afford an ABC or D List celebrity,
so they're like, Okay, we'll go with a tech personality.
And I had just found out that morning I was pregnant,
and so I I really I was like, this is

(04:35):
the sign that the universe is giving me to shake
up my life and to focus on myself. And so
it was kind of a whirlwind end of my time
at Silicon Valley because I accepted that role on a Thursday,
moved to New York, and started rehearsing on Monday. So
it was a bit of a kind of just blew
up my entire life over the course of four days.

(04:57):
But was the plan before the call for rocket ages
There was no plan. We had just bought this beautiful
home in in suburban California. Like on paper, I feel
like you would have looked at my life and thought
it was great. In reality, I'm not like a suburban
homeowning person. Like I was carrying that house on my back.

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I was not happy. And you know, Silicon Valley, there's
a lot of amazing things, there's also a lot of
very toxic things about Silicon Valley, especially as a woman,
and so I don't know, I just felt like I
really was needing a soul change, if that makes any sense.
And so when that um, when that call came out
of the blue, it was just it was a sign

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from the universe. Actually, when I went to New York,
I never returned. My husband sold our house, moved all
of our things across the country, and we've been New
Yorkers ever since. So it's um, it was kind of
a wild experience too, and so you know, sometimes though
you uh, you learn a lot about yourself and your

(06:02):
resilience when you kind of just blow up everything overnight.
How was your husband able to make such a move,
because obviously it required a lot of flexibility on his part. Two. Yes,
I feel very lucky to have a partner who has
helped me prioritize my career when i've needed to. I
feel like we've struck a really good balance of prioritizing

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one another's careers. And um, you know, at the start
of the pandemic, he had just started as the CEO
of Parsley Health and Awesome Health start up with a
female CEO, and so I was like, Okay, great, this
is your opportunity to double down on your career. This
is amazing. I'll play more of the role of like
the default parent and the support And I felt good

(06:45):
doing that because there have been so many moments in
our partnership where he was like, yes, I will pack
up our home and get a new job and move
our life in a week from California to New York.
So I definitely feel feel very lucky to have a
partner like that. How did you meet him. We met
in college. We did not date in college at all,

(07:06):
and then we we re met after. It's funny. He's
from South Africa, and I just was so blown away
by how kind of worldly he was. And I remember
our first date. We went to the museum and I
was so nervous because I liked him so much. And
I pointed to this map on the wall and I
was like, that's where you're from. And he's like, that's

(07:29):
South America. And I was just like, I was like,
I went to Harvard, like college education, I obviously know
the difference between South America and the continent of Africa.
And it was and luckily he came back for a

(07:50):
second date. It was so funny. It was I mean,
I still cringe about it today, like twenty years later.
He I still like, you know, when you lie down
at night and you're and instead of going to bed,
you replay all the mistakes that you've made in your life,
Like that's a that's a story that replays a lot

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um but what but you probably think he's even more
amazing after this story. He turned down one of his
dream his dream job at Jannette Tech in San Francisco
to be with me in New York because I was
living in New York when we first met, and then
two weeks later I moved to San Francisco to work
in Facebook. Oh my god. So the fact that we're

(08:37):
still married after all of that is really a testament.
I want to go back to the part where you
shared that you felt like Silicon Valley was a toxic culture.
What was toxic about it? I think from the outside
it's hard to understand. We hear that all the time,
but if you don't live it, what does that mean
exactly on a daily basis. Yeah, I mean there's signs

(08:57):
of hope from what I've seen. But when I got
out to Silicon I mean I had no clue what
I was in for. I was working at an ad
agency in New York City where we had a female
CEO who had gone from being the intern all the
way up to the CEO. Right, So my whole career
had started in this environment where anything's possible, and suddenly

(09:18):
I went out to Silicon Valley, where like a lot
of offices didn't have even women's restrooms, and um, people
would come to to Facebook for a meeting, asked me
for coffee and then realized that I was the one
running the meeting that they were going into. I mean,
I often say that my biggest advantage in life was

(09:40):
that when I would email with people, they would think
emailing with Randy was a dude, and like I would
actually be able to get meetings and get things done.
I guess I was like I was like anonymous before
it was cool now with Crypto, So that that's the
kind of environment. So on one hand, here I was
at the cutting edge of all of this amazing innovation

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Web two and pushing forward a whole new industry. And
then the other hand, it was so difficult to get
things done being the only woman in the room and
just always an uphill battle. How did you change that
culture at Facebook or how how were you instrumental in
sort of making sure that environment didn't mirror the rest
of Silicon Valley? You know, obviously all of these tech

(10:21):
companies have a long way to go. Still. I do
think that bringing and Cheryl Sandberg was a huge turning
point early on in Facebook, and that really made a
big difference in the culture and at least made the
female employees feel seen and heard and excited and hopeful.
And because of that. I think that was a real
turning point for a lot of executive teams across Silicon

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Valley to to really think about investing in female leadership.
It's crazy. Until that moment, I think I could count
the number of female executives on one hand in Silicon Valley. Now,
when you look at venture firms, it's um pretty we beard.
If a venture firm doesn't have a female partner. It
was not weird. Fifteen years ago, it was strange to

(11:06):
find a female VC. We could obviously still do a
lot better with funding, but there's you know, at least
some a lot of signs of hope and change from
what I'm seeing. So I'm excited about some of the
progress in Silicon Valley, But at the same time, I'm
seeing a lot of it repeat itself on the front
lines of Web three where I am now, and it's

(11:27):
it's frustrating to see those same patterns just playing out
over and over. Let's talk about Web three. I mean,
you've done a lot of things since you went out
on your own, So why did you get involved? Like
what drew you to this brand new frontier? That sometimes
makes my head hurt because it's learning something completely new
once again. It definitely makes my head hurt on a

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daily basis. And it's funny. I feel like most of
the things that have happened in my career have been
kind of happy accidents or act you know, luck, because
I've had my eyes open for for accidents. It's interesting
because I, you know, I talked a little bit about
this split identity that I had with Silicon Valley and
being an artist, and I always felt I was a

(12:10):
little too artsy for the tech world and I was
a little too techy for the arts world, and I
never really fit into either of those. And suddenly, about
a year ago, I started getting all of these calls
from investors and companies saying, you know, Randy, we really
need the skill set of someone who can evaluate both
an artistic project and a tech project because we want

(12:32):
to get into n f T S and so we
need someone who can speak both of those languages. So
I didn't really set out to get into crypto or
to go down that world. But suddenly it was like
the last twenty years of my career all made sense
in one moment, like there's a small group of us
that can understand how to work with artists and speak

(12:54):
techy language, and I was like, all right, this is
put me in coach, this is my moment. What was
the first entrance into it? I mean it still is
like the wild West. How have you educated yourself? And
how much do you feel like you know today? I
mean it's a it's an insane learning curve. I would say,
I've got into the space in September, so it hasn't

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I mean eight nine months that I've been in the space.
I was speaking on a panel at n f T
n y C last year and I had my phone
out writing down words that my fellow panelists were saying,
because I had no clue half the things that they
were even saying. And they would get to me and say,

(13:37):
you know, Brandy, what do you think? And I'd just
be like, my fellow panelists summed it up so well,
there's absolutely nothing that I have to add, you know,
that could be better. And then I would go home
and look at this list on my phone of a
dozen vocabulary words and be like, Okay, I don't know
what a daw is. I don't know what like what
I need to like figure out all of this stuff

(14:00):
on the blockchain. What is salona and and so little
by little I started to educate myself and I definitely
went slow, and that's something that I would recommend to
a lot of people. It's a there's a lot of
vocabulary and lingo when it comes to crypto and Web three,
there's a lot of chaos at any time you're on
the front lines is something new. So just kind of

(14:23):
sitting in that environment and learning from people around you
and absorbing content I think is the best way to
get started. And before I knew what, I found myself
advising about twenty different n f T collections and founders
and then becoming a Web three founder myself. So it's
definitely been a wacky, wild learning curve. And now a

(14:44):
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and what's it called? Yes, it's called hug and I

(15:26):
we've named it Hugged because so much of crypto is
so intimidating and unwelcoming, and it's like those early days
of Web two. It's you know, nine percent men, and
the way they like everything is sir and bro and
this and so. First of all, I really wanted to
create a welcoming, embracing place for people to come into crypto.

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But the other gap that I saw is that there's
a ton of awesome communities for brand new people into crypto.
So there are great places to learn the basics, but
there's not a great second stop on someone's crypto journey.
So once you do learn, and you you do decide,
you know, yes, I want to go a little bit deeper.

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I want to start collecting n f T s or
I want to start trading crypto. There's no second stop
that's friendly for women and diverse artists and founders in
the space. You go straight from the friendly newcomer communities
to like the super bro alpha communities, and so I
wanted hug to be like the friendliest second stop on

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someone's Web three journey. We began this conversation going into
Web three talking about Silicon Valley and how it can
be a hostile place for women or other marginalized communities,
and that there's a risk of Web three becoming like
that as well. So do you think that we're starting
differently today than we did in the valley? Like, do

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you think we're starting from a different place and that
it will be more inclusive? I would say in certain
areas of crypto, it's pretty demoralizing what you see when
you look in the straight up like trading cryptocurrencies. I
think that's why for me, I've really loved focusing on
the n f T world, because you do start to
see the culture changing there. I mean, a lot of

(17:16):
women can relate to buying art and collecting arts, so
that is a great gateway into crypto. I find it's
very difficult to convince a woman to just like open
a crypto while and start buying and trading and doing
all this like decentralized finance and um, but I can
convince a woman to check out art and purchase it

(17:38):
with a theory um and help her start her Web
three journey that way. But to your point, Amy, which
is such a good one, Um, I've definitely noticed, you know,
because it is a new world, the kind of people
that are winning early on, or people who have disposable
income to just you know, to throw around and test things.

(17:58):
And so I've tried really hard, even in our own community,
to even take a back seat myself and not be
kind of the voice that's heard, because at the end
of the day, I mean, I am a white woman
with privilege who has had success in business, and so
my point of view on my own personal finance is really,

(18:18):
you know, probably not a typical view that most people
coming into crypto would have. So in our community, I'm
really proud of it's six bipoc creators and collectors, almost women,
and I really try to have my voice be a
very distant one in the chorus of voices. You've been
a champion of women in so many different ways, right,

(18:41):
You've invested in so many female founded startups. You know,
I think that hug is creating this incredible space. So
one question I have that I don't know the answer
to is what roles you female friendships play in your
adult life. Wow, that's I mean, it's such a great question.
And one thing I will say is one thing that
shocked me about Web three is how collaborative women are

(19:04):
with one another. I almost feel like I have had
to unlearn everything that I've been taught, you know, Like
I feel like our generation we were taught that women
compete and that one woman's success is your failure, and
like being happy for a friend was always tinged with
a little bit of jealousy at the same time. And I, Um,

(19:24):
the wonderful thing that I can say about Web three
is that I don't see any of that behavior at all.
I see women collaborating and teaming up and working together,
and so um, I would say that female friendships have
a much bigger part of my life today than they
did even um nine months ago, and that um the

(19:45):
only way for women to succeed and Web three is
teaming up and just like hunkering down with other amazing
women around them. So that has been something that I've
had to, like very excitingly unlearned about my entire past.
Who are your closest friends? Who are Oh gosh, um,
you know, I feel like I have I have friends

(20:05):
of like different interest categories. So I have my theater
friends like suit. I have close friends who I produce
with and who I go see a lot of theater with.
I have my golf friends because that sports saved my sanity.
During COVID, I was like, Okay, there's no theater to
produce anymore, there's nothing to do, so I'm going to

(20:28):
come out of this with a new skill. Um, and
now I have like these amazing friends who we traveled
together on like golf trips with our families is pretty wild.
And now I have my crypto friends, So it's it's
pretty fun to to have, um, you know, different, really
passionate friend groups. But I don't know. I don't know

(20:50):
about you guys, but I definitely have found myself over
the last decade, Like being in the trenches with three
young kids does not leave a lot of room for
for like doubling down on friendships, and so I feel
like it's only just now that I'm able to say
yes to traveling on trips with friends. And I feel

(21:11):
like for a decade I wasn't able to prioritize being
a great friend at that point. I think all three
of us have this kind of network of women around
the country where when you go to that city, you
see each other. You don't even need to necessarily be
in the same city to be close friends. And I
think that's one of the benefits of being out in
the world and outside of your home and really, like

(21:32):
you know, having a career that's that's so expansive, is
that that's something that adds value. And just like about
that to everyone who joins us, unless your story is that,
like we all come from completely different backgrounds and there's
no like ticket to enter this club of supportive women
around the country, because Randy, to your point, like, it

(21:53):
isn't this world where another woman's success is your failure.
It's like we all rise together and there's a ton
of upper tunity there totally. I mean, even just to
give an example that just warms my heart so much.
I started to get really frustrated by the fact that
pretty much only the top twenty performing n f T

(22:13):
collections are visible and they're all created by men. And
it's this you know, perpetuating cycle because then you know,
because they're selling well, they rank high on all the
n f T marketplaces. I put a tweet up I
was like, I would love to build something that gets
visibility for women led projects, diverse lad projects. If anyone

(22:33):
wants to help me, just you know, send me a message.
Three hundred women responded to that, and we started this
community where everyone has honestly just been working tirelessly to
find n f T collections, evaluate them, review them like
no compensation. I mean, it's just people who want to

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lend a hand with a shared goal around promoting women's voices.
And I've never seen anything like that in my life. Honestly,
what do you think about Elon Musk buying Twitter? I know,
it's pretty pretty insane. I oh my gosh. I it's
certainly not going to help the like browie uh kind

(23:19):
of vibe that we're that we're fighting against in our
little corner Web three. But I guess the jury is
out to see what happens. I mean, listen, I respect
everything that he's done is as a business, as a
person in business, it's pretty insane to be able to
found multiple companies that all have like built like many

(23:40):
billion dollar valuations. So I guess we'll see how that
trickles down to to the average person using it. You
were at Facebook in the beginning, you were a big
part of building it. You have now lived sort of
from the outside to see it become the darling, the villain,
that darling in the villain. It goes back and forth.

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What is that like for you? You know, because you
are so close to it, not just as a former employee,
but obviously as the sister of the founder and CEO.
What's that like for you? Yeah? I think you have
to have a thick skin and business. I mean, the
press builds you up to to tear you down, to
build you up like I you know. I mean, no
one can be a darling forever. No one's a villain forever. Um.

(24:25):
I think I used to take it very personally when
I was young, and I think as I grew up
and kind of looked around the world and I saw
even the same thing like happening to Britney Spears next
to me, and then it's, um, there's just there's natural
ways of things, you know. I do think for sure,
there's people are pushing back with this with web three

(24:48):
against a few companies holding all the centralized power. And
I can understand why people are pushing back and why
they feel that way, I do think that the utopian
ideal of complete decentralization probably doesn't work the way that
that people are pitching it. I think the ideal situation

(25:10):
in the end is kind of a hybrid, like a
Web two point five, where if your crypto while it
does get stolen, you have someone to call, like there's
some centralization to protect people in the space. But um
so I can understand that right now people are in
a time where they're really pushing back against like a

(25:30):
few big companies holding a lot of power, and it'll
be interesting to see how that evolves as as Web
three evolves. And then why do you think, you know,
when you see someone like Cheryl right I was, I
was quoted in lean in I was such a big
fan of Cheryl, as you were, in terms of changing
the culture at Facebook, what do you think is going

(25:51):
to sort of happen with her story, given how dramatically
it's changed. I mean, I think as women, especially hits
hard because there's not that many role models that are
out there doing huge things in the world, and so
it almost feels personal to all of us when someone
you sort of you know, saw as this beacon of

(26:12):
hope is taken down definitely, And you know I see
that all the time all around me. I you know,
it just it hits a little harder when it's like
women being taken down, and I feel like, especially um,
even in the crypto world that I've seen myself in
right now, the men can do no wrong. You know,

(26:32):
they're out there raising seventy five million dollars in a
few hours on nothing right on pixelated pictures, whereas you know,
the women around me are facing constant takedowns, often by
other female reporters, of like, oh you're you're not like
elevating this voice enough, You're not doing this you know,

(26:54):
Oh you're too like well off to give advice, you're
not well enough off to give advice, and um, just
at some point it's like when is that going to end?
Like the you know, the takedown of like the female
role model, and of course people need to be held
accountable for their actions are but it's it hits a

(27:16):
little harder because the men are not getting that same
takedown treatment. And now a quick break. You're such a
positive person. What gets you down? Well, for sure, I
think as a mom, you're only as happy as your
least happy child. At the moment. So you know, we've
definitely the addressing the situation with the pandemic and re

(27:40):
entering life has been stressful, but I feel lucky to
have a lot to be grateful for in my life.
And I have found at least that even though you
know things might be in chaos around me, it often
takes the same amount of energy to be positive than
to be negative, which I know is like probably a
silly soup or cheesy, ridiculous thing to say, but um,

(28:03):
it's ah, they often say in method acting, like I
learned in psychology, if you just by smiling in the mirror,
it actually like lights up a positive area of your brain. Um.
And so even in all the cheesiness, I I think,
you know, this has certainly been a very very stressful year.

(28:24):
You know, overnight, the two main industries that I were
involved with collapsed. I had to personally, you know, layoff
dozens of actors and people who didn't have a plan
B in their career, and that was probably one of
the worst worst moments of my life professionally, and then

(28:45):
figure out, you know, like navigating a complete pivot into
an area where most of the people that I talked
to in my life think that I'm a lunatic. That's
like trading JPEG's in pirate money. So you know, it's
I feel like it. Sometimes you have to just be
self aware enough to laugh about it, you know, and

(29:05):
embrace the silliness in the situation. Who in your life
do you go to for advice? Um, It's funny how
that's changed over the years. I feel like I spent
the entire decade of my twenties trying to find like
that one person fifteen levels above me who would solve
all my problems. And I never found that person. In fact,

(29:27):
a few times I came close, they would end up
asking me a million questions about Facebook and social media,
and I would end up mentoring them and getting like
nothing out of the relationship. Um. And honestly, it wasn't
until a few years ago that I realized that my
best mentors are like the two of you, like right
right next to me. They're they're the women who are

(29:50):
right next to me in my life, all along going
through the same thing and rising up together. And uh,
I wish I had realized that sooner in career, honestly,
And it's funny back to that question, around positivity and
how you stay positive. I also find that in the
last few years I have been ruthless about acting toxic

(30:11):
people out of my life. I used to tolerate a
lot of bullshit from people around me. Um, and maybe
you know, earlier in your earlier in your career, you
sort of do you haven't really earned the right. But
now I'm like, there is just no time to surround
myself with people who are toxic or anything but positive.
And so that has definitely affected my own outlook as

(30:33):
my ability to just like spring clean also spring cleaned
as we talked about all the high heels out of
my closet too, because I also I don't have time
for toxic people and I don't have time for a
heel that's over two inches. All right, we're going to

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go to our speed round now. Um, we're gonna ask
you some quick questions and you can give us quick answers. Me.
Do you want to kick it off? What book are
you reading right now? Um? Oh, my gosh, do people
read books when they're starting companies and have kids. That's
like a horrible, horrible question. Now, Okay, I'm reading our
friend Bobby Rebel's book about how to learn tips for

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your children about finance, and it's an awesome book. What's
your morning routine? I have about fourteen cups of coffee.
I know this is this is good health advice. Um.
We have three three, three different children that go to
three schools with the exact same drop off time. So
morning is just running around like a lunatic with a

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lot of coffee. Grab a child and bring them to school.
What is your nighttime routine? Okay, well I love nighttime.
Everyone in my house goes to bed pretty early, and
I'm a late night owl, and so I get to
enjoy like three four hours to myself. So I put
on like some TV in the background, owned I sit

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and I work. I'll take a bath, I'll do like
my whole face routine. I'll do like I feel like
it's my my time every night to like have the
whole house to myself, which I love. Who leaves you
star struck? Oh my gosh, um, so so many people.
I think some of the incredible female politicians that are
just like pushing the boulder uphill right now. I know,

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like the two of you have met Stacy Abrams, who
would like I know if I ever met her when
I would just I don't even know if I know
what to say. I'd be so star struck. All right, Well,
Lou Burns has been listening and he always comes in
at the end with a male perspective and often the
sharpest perspective. So, umlu take it away. Where do you

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imagine how to be like in the next ten years? Well,
there are to two directions we're trying to go. The
first is we're trying to launch almost like a trip
advisor of Web three companies, so that you could go
on and search for an n f T collection by
the type of founder or the social cause it supports,
and kind of see reviews on it. The other side

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is I think there's an entire new skill set that's
going to be in demand with Web three, of this
curator level of the Internet, of people who understand enough
to curate artists and curate different information for websites and
for companies, and so I'm hoping that hug can become

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kind of the default curate as a platform for Web three. Also,
how can Lou get involved in hug? Okay, Well, the
first thing I'm going to say is that if you're
new to crypto Hug is a second stop in crypto,
So I'm going to recommend to start with Curious Atti
Trading Club, which is a crypto community for total newcomers.

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It's the hands down best community for for on boarding
into crypto. Once you've played around there and you decide
you know that you want to go a little deeper
down the rabbit hole, come find me, because I'm all
the way down there. Then I would check out the
Hug dot x y Z and everything we're doing there

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because we are taking people on that next journey to
either become founders and web three, create their own n
f T collections, become big collectors of crypto and n
f T s, and so once once you fall in
and become a digen, as people say in crypto, come
find me at at the Hug and we'll be delighted

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to hug you with open arms. The thing about Randy
that I will never get over is how lovely she is.
Not telling these stories like other people would just never share,
but like Randy always shares the unvarnished truth about her
own life, her career, everything, and I just feel like
that's so rare. She can also laugh at herself, which

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I love. That is one of my favorite qualities about
her and just anyone, but also she she really her
positivity is contagious and I love it and I you're right.
I mean, she was laughing at the fact that you
moved in with her parents during the pandemic. She she
laughs about her childs and failures. And I also thought

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she was pretty honest and talking about Mark and Cheryl
and Facebook. She she really didn't shy away from it.
We've had some guests on our show who kind of
asked us to take things out or get nervous, and
we asked the hard questions, and we always feel like
it's our responsibility to ask the hard questions. But she
handled our hard questions with such grace. I love it.

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She is amazing. She is incredible, and I I am
really excited to dig in further with her offline about
Web three and hopefully we can come back to everyone
here and give you more guidance because I think it's
something we all need to embrace. Coming soon, there might
be a What's Her Story and f T collection thanks
to Randy's inspiration. Thanks for listening to What's Her Story

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male perspective, Blue Burns