What's Wright - Thunder ESCAPE Timberwolves, Knicks WILD comeback vs. Pacers, DELUSIONAL Eagles takes

Nick Wright reacts to the Oklahoma City Thunder's 128-126 win against Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves to take 3-1 series lead in the Western Conference Finals of the NBA Playoffs. Then, Nick discusses what to expect in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals between Jalen Brunson's New York Knicks and Tyrese Haliburton's Indiana Pacers. Later, Nick reacts to Saquon Barkley calling the 2024 Philadelphia Eagles a top five team in NFL history. Finally, as always, Nick and Damonza answer your questions. #Volume

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three thirty four.
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(00:27):
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(00:49):
that was happening. But next Thursday we will be live
from the World Series of Poker in Las Vegas, doing
the show from there. Demands, how are.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
You pretty good? Pops? You doing good to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm good to see you as well. I realized when
I saw Demons, I was like, oh boy, I've not
actually spoken to Demonse since we signed off the pod
last Wednesday. Not the best parenting job by me there
probably should check in see how you're doing. But we
have had I was in Indy, which we'll get into.
Both of your aunts are in town and staying with us.

(01:22):
So there's a lot going on over here, a lot
going on in the sports world. And we know who's
gonna win the NBA Championship. So all that is coming
up on the show. Here's what missed the cut. Denver
officially promotes Dave Adalman to the head coach position. Tim
Shallomey sitting, that's a real fan going courtside to Indianapolis.

(01:43):
I love that from him. And Alex Polow, my guy
wins the Indy five hundred. He's also a Chiefs guy.
He's also you know, the racer of this generation. And
I gotta tell you the audience knows we brought in,
you know, my goddaughter ci r Fidel to the f
one minute. I am not historically a motorsports guy. I

(02:04):
don't pretend to be a motorsports expert. I do, however,
and this isn't pretending. Know that if you give me
an assignment with enough lead time, I can learn pretty
damn fast. And once we found out we were going
to Indy. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna we're gonna
be interviewing people. We're gonna, you know, probably have Oh wait,

(02:25):
this person wants to come on. So I got to
be prepared. So I went back to my roots of
when I was having to do postgame call in shows
for lacrosse. In college, we did postgame call in shows
for lacrosse for games that were road games that were
only on the radio, so you couldn't watch it, and

(02:47):
theoretically I didn't know the sport, and then I had
to take people's calls about what happened in the game.
And so I learned lacrosse, and so I kind of
tried to flex that muscle again to learn IndyCar and
now I mean, I'm basically an adopted member of the
Andretti family. More on that later in the show, but
in the meantime, Demons, let's get to the game last night,

(03:10):
which was one of the best games of the playoffs
and might have been the unofficial end of the playoffs.
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, so Minnesota had bounced back in Game three and
Okase responded with a win. Jada was cooking and looked
pretty tired out there. Yeah, so the Thunder took took
care of business. They're now of three to one. Like
you said before, do they now seem inevitable to win
the finals.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Or this series?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I guess at the very least no, No to both.
They listen and this isn't like a take that the
moment the Lakers got eliminated, I said, I think Oklahoma
City's gonna win the championship. That I thought the Lakers
were the only team that could beat them. Now maybe
that was wrong, maybe nobody could beat them. But I
have not been one of the people that has underrated

(04:00):
at Oklahoma City or that has thought their youth was
going to be a death knell for them. And we
now now as we sit here today, and this is
a team that is seventy nine and nine or eighteen
on the year, and a team that yesterday won a game.

(04:24):
It was such a weird game yesterday because there are
a couple buckets of stats that if I give you, you're
gonna be like, oh, well, obviously team X one, And
then a couple of buckets of stats that if I
give you'd say, oh, obviously team why one. So the
first one for the Thunder they're big three combined for

(04:50):
ninety five points. Shay forty, JDub thirty four, Jet twenty one.
Their big three combine for ninety five points. Meanwhile, the
three highest paid guys on Minnesota, well, I mean they

(05:11):
don't really have one of them's go Bear. That's not
fair because he's not a scorers. Minnesota's top two scorers,
Aunt and Julius combine for twenty one. You hear that
and you say, okay, well that's a thunder route. Thing
I can tell you on the flip side of that
is what if going into the game, I were to

(05:32):
tell you, hey, Okc's bench is gonna go I'm sorry,
Minnesota's bench, pardon me, is going to go twelve of
eighteen from three and combine for an incomprehensible sixty four points.

(05:52):
You're gonna get sixty four points off the bench. You
would say, okay, well that's going too clearly be maybe
not only a Timberwolf win, but maybe a Timberwolf route instead.
Those two factors came together, the thunder Stars playing awesome,
the Timberwolves role players playing awesome, and it was a

(06:17):
classic game. I know that, like we've had so many
great games these playoffs that a game that one team
kind of leads throughout and then ends up winning doesn't
feel like that should qualify as a classic. But the
shot making and degree of difficulty from anyone and everyone

(06:38):
involved in this game except for Minnesota's two best players
is really a was a sight to behold. And the
reason that I said right off the top of the
show and when Demonte asked me that this series is

(06:58):
over and this season is over, and that's with respect
to the Pacers and the Knicks who will get to later,
is OKC has now been on the ropes and has
now responded in such a way that I think this
counts as that extra step some people thought they needed

(07:24):
to take, Like, all right, you make the playoffs and
you get bounced in round two. Then you go on
a deep run like the Celtics did to the finals
and lose. Then you come back and win a championship,
facing a Game seven against the best player in the
world and blowing them out, and then responding the very

(07:45):
next series by getting blown out like embarrassed. For the
first time all year. They had only had one twenty
point loss all season. It was to the Lakers. In
the regular season. They lose by forty it's their first
playoff loss as a group together by more than twelve points.

(08:08):
And then the very.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Agree they took their foot off the gas there in
game three, though, right think that was like that was
chalked up like if that was a situation high leverage
and they needed that game, probably wouldn't have lost by that.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'm just saying, totally agree.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, no, one hundred percent agree. But my point is,
not only did they lose that game, they get blown
out ants feeling good. Because they get blown out, the
Timberwolves don't have to play you know they're and because
they're not as deep of a team in theory, they

(08:42):
don't have to play Aunt and Julius huge minutes. So
they should be able to come into Game four fresh
and feeling like, you know what we about to make
this a series and all the Timberwolves others played out
of their mind and the OKC Big three Flatley said, Nah,

(09:05):
it doesn't matter. Shay, who will get more into later,
was absolutely brilliant. Shae was brilliant, And I obviously have
been vocal about the flopping and the Jabbroni stuff of

(09:26):
hooking the arms and all that stuff you can hold
two thoughts in your head at the same time. One
is the free throw merchant stuff is a fair criticism,
and I find it to be an unappealing brand of
basketball when he's doing that, while also believing even without

(09:49):
any of that stuff, he's a superstar. And last night
it was both. He was getting to the line. There
hasn't been as much flopping about by him since Game one,
and but in addition to getting to the line, he
was getting to the basket. His mid range was on point,

(10:13):
as it's been all year, and he just played an
outstanding A plus MVP level game. And then Jalen Williams
added his twenty four or thirty four on twenty four shots,
and every time it felt like Minnesota had a chance

(10:36):
to grab some momentum, there was Chet Holmgrench, either hitting
a three or with a putback dunk or a big block.
He was awesome. And so.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I just you were nervous about Chet coming into this series.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Too, absolutely, And I thought that the Julius piece of
this for the Timberwolves is pretty brutal, because he was
so good in Round one against the Lakers and so
good in Round two against the Warriors. He was so

(11:16):
good he did something that I didn't know was possible,
which is force honesty out of Draymond Green, like, no,
I got my ass kicked in that matchup like that,
which he did. And then he was the only guy
on Minnesota to really show up in Game one, so

(11:37):
I was like, man, this he is just rewriting this
playoff narrative. And then in game two, in game four,
he's a combined three of eighteen from the field and
eleven points total and just brutal. And so yeah, I
thought that Julius versus Chet was going to strongly the Timberwolves,

(12:01):
even though I picked Oklahoma City to win the series.
That's not what happened to her at all. And while
I think we are, you know, I gave Danny a
hard time. Let me find the tweet I sent to
Danny Parkins. Either last night or this morning, I don't remember,
but Danny tweeted, if I can get my phone to work,

(12:22):
something about uh about the runway? That what the heck?
This sucks? Twitter? Can I just say something Twitter sucks?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Now?

Speaker 1 (12:35):
It doesn't. I can't even find my own tweets. Danny
tweeted about the thunder having basically the next ten years
here's what he wrote. I found it. I feel sorry
for all the self professed NBA fans who say they
hate SGA's game. The next ten years or so of

(12:57):
hoops is gonna be pretty miserable for them. He's gonna
be in a lot of big games. And so I
replied to him, giving SGA the next ten years feel strong. Listen,
windows are never open as long as people think they
are going to be in the moment, and every team
that wins the championship, in the moment that they're winning

(13:19):
the championship, it feels like, well, they're just gonna keep
winning championships, I guess. And obviously right now it feels
that way with OKC. But it felt that way with
Boston twelve months ago, and it felt that way with
Denver twenty four months ago, And it felt that way
with Milwaukee forty eight months ago, and it felt that

(13:42):
way with the Lakers sixty months ago. The only team
that he didn't really feel like they were about to
reel off a bunch was the Warriors, because they had
already reeled off their bunch, like that was the end
mark rather than what it felt like was a beginning. Well, yeah,
Toronto obviously, but that was if Quiet stayed. No, but

(14:02):
if Quiet stayed, maybe people would have thought they were
going to keep winning. And so I'm not I'm not
ready to talk down the road for OKAC because that
ownership group as a doesn't have a tendency of paying
the luxury tax. And I'm not sure. However, I know
they have a bunch of picks, and they have a

(14:22):
smart GM and all that stuff. What I am ready
to say is nobody's fucking beating them this year. And
it was there was a window where in that game
last night where it felt like, well, if Minnesota can,

(14:42):
if they can win this game with Aunt and Julius
playing poorly, can they then win one of the next
two because Aunt and Julius go off, and then you're
in a game seven, and then you roll the dice.
And even if they were to lose the game seven,

(15:05):
then OKASE goes into the finals coming off back to
back seven game series and maybe they're a little bruised,
a little battered, a little worn down. Instead, Okac's going
to end this tomorrow night, and they are not going
to demonte let their foot off the gas twice in

(15:26):
one series. They are critically going to be at home.
Where what of the thunder done? Let me just look
at home this postseason. They beat Memphis by fifty one.
They then beat Memphis by nineteen. They lost to Denver

(15:47):
in was that the game one against Denver? Yeah, that
was the Aaron Gordon game, the game winner, the game winner.
So they lost to Denver. They then beat Denver by
forty three. They then beat Denver by seven. They then
beat Denver by thirty two. And now they have beaten

(16:11):
Minnesota by twenty six and by fifteen, and they face
another one. So they have multiple victories at home by
thirty plus and they have one loss and it was
a buzzer beating dunk.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So it's been done. They could lose.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
If Minnesota goes over there and Julius Randall and a
cook and they turn it around, what do you think
the chances of them pulling away, you know, bringing it seven,
winning the series on Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I think this is dead. I think this series ended
last night. I think that there is I think that
there is no no real way to convince yourself that
the Timberwolves have a chance to win two in a

(17:04):
row with one of them in Okac, much less three
in a row, with two of them in okac Their
moment was last night, their moment to make it so
we can get to a game seven without ever having
to win on the road and then see what the
hell happens. And I just give Oklahoma City a ton

(17:24):
of credit. Man. They are obviously, and we've talked about
it all year, and not historically great but contemporarily great defense.
And they're young stars are all growing up in front

(17:48):
of us. And so the one other piece of caution
that I would give to folks who are going to
get out ahead of the dinas deep part of it is, Man,
I don't know that any team's ever looked more poised

(18:08):
to go on forget a ten year run, a fifteen
year run in Oklahoma City in twenty twelve, when they
had Durant, Russ, and Harden all well under twenty five
years old. They might all been under twenty four years

(18:28):
old actually, and they were making their first finals and
that's their only finals. Like and it's a you can say, oh, well,
they traded Harden guys with this new CBA. I don't
know how. I have no idea what teams are and
aren't gonna stay the exact same year to year. What

(18:49):
I do know is the Thunder winning the championship, and
they will be rightful champions. It will not be an
injury luck championship. It will not be ah look at
who they faced and root to it championship. It won't
be any of that. It's going to be from day

(19:11):
one of this season until the last day of the season,
they were the best team. They had the guy who
had the best season, and they were the deepest and
damn near impossible to blow out, and they're going to

(19:34):
finish the year. So they were I do this. I
did this on the fly, and then I thought I
screwed it up. They were sixty eight and fourteen. They
have lost four times this postseason, so they are that's
twenty eighteen losses. They have won eleven times this postseason. Yes,
I had it right. They're seventy nine and eighteen, and

(19:56):
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that they finished the
year eighty four and twenty. I think they lose two
more times the rest of the way and they go
into next year as big favorites, which again the defending

(20:17):
champ keeps going into the years the big favorites We'll
see how they do on that end. And I'm not
trying to put a period on this NBA season, but
to me, this NBA season ended last night, and that's
not a bad thing. That's not the it's well, it is.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
It is what it is.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I know there's a lot of basketball to play, and
I'm still and I'm super excited for the rest of
the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals. To me,
will be whomever. It is a real David versus Goliath situation,
and you'll be excited to see, Hey, can something. Can
Halliburton or Brunson have just a holy shit, what just

(21:06):
happened moment? Can one of those guys like do a
Dirk Novitsky twenty eleven levitate above the game? Wildly outmatched?
But I don't think so.

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Speaker 1 (21:56):
All right there, I know you have a bunch of
follow ups here and then we can get to the
next topic. But go ahead to many.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
So Aunt looks super gas last night, and this is
right around the time that he got gas last year.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do you think that this is just who he is?

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I don't. It is surprising to me that Aunt accepts
passivity the way he has at times, and his comments
after the game when he's like, listen, I don't think

(22:30):
I struggled. I made the right play again and again.
And I guess you can make the argument. Listens teammates
wereritting shots. They scored one twenty six. He was still
busting his ass on defense. But when you're up against
the MVP Demanse and you undoubtedly feel like I'm better

(22:55):
than him. But listen, he's not better than Shay. But
I guarantee you Ant believes he's better than Check. Yeah,
like that, he has to, like, that's how he's wired.
Seeing him take two shots in the first half was shocking. Legitimately,
shocking in a half. His team was trailing the whole time.

(23:16):
It's not as if, well, you know what I mean,
everything's working great, whatever it is. And so he did
he said he ran out of gas in the last
year in the conference finals. But that was so different
because though I took that to be a physical and

(23:37):
a mental thing, because beating the defending champ in round
two is a bit of a that's a huge favorite,
is a bit of a championship in and of itself.
We are kind of seeing it happened to the Knicks.
The Knicks beat Boston and then exhaled, and by the

(24:00):
time they get their breath again, they're down two oh
to Indiana. Right, So I thought last year ant and
Minnesota have a shocking three two comeback, and then Game
seven comeback against Minnesota and then it's like, oh man,
we got another that we're only halfway to the goal. Dallas,

(24:20):
on the other hand, you know, was a pretty well
oiled machine at that point, having just beaten OKC and
they're down three to zero. They being Minnesota before they
realize it's a fight. This year that wasn't at at all.
Minnesota didn't even seem to really face any adversity in

(24:45):
round two or round one, and so I just think
this is part of ant growing up. But for those
of us that were like, hey, lead a team to
the finals before you turn twenty five, that's a pretty
the exclusive list. He has a chance to join it.
That's now done that that you know, and so at

(25:08):
twenty three, just get better and better each year. But
he needs to find a way to be at his
best come late May, and that's yet to happen for him. Okay,
Uh so there's go ahead and we can talk rules
before he talks Shay and Ann.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Oh yeah, you think the team should be allowed to
foul up three as much as they want.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
It might have made the game. It was a little
boring there at the end.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
So okay, So I don't understand why teams or by
the league listen free advice. There are three very simple
rule changes that could be implemented in the offseason, and

(25:54):
there is close to zero downside for any of them.
Rule one is the one I proposed on TV yesterday,
self proclaimed take of the year. It's an unimpeachably great take.
The league could institute it immediately. There's no downside to

(26:14):
it whatsoever. And it would fix this immediately. Which is
just like, every player on the court at any time
can call time out, and if you go like this,
the referee grant you a timeout. Any player on the
court at any time can do the whoo the challenge signal,

(26:38):
and the referee will grant that challenge. Okay, you have
a challenge, you're challenging it. And within a week, demons,
every player on every team would have been drilled by
the coaches. Don't You're not allowed.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
To do that.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I was about to say that the coaches would not
ride with that one. It's like, it's just my choice
if we're challenging it or not, you.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Know, correct, But it's also the coach's choice if we
call time out or not. But the players can call it,
and so it would no player would go rogue. Guys
would learn very quickly, Oh shit, that's binding. I better
not do that. And added bonus, let's just say there

(27:22):
is a oh use joker as an example, a really
smart veteran player. It's late in the game. He knows
they have challenges in timeouts left, and he knows that
ball did not go off me, and he looks over
at the bench and he's like, oh, man, the dude
dropped the tablet. They're they're they're about to inbound the ball.

(27:44):
We're not gonna get it in no challenge challenge. So
it would reward smart players and discipline teams. It would
briefly penalize teams that have a bunch of dopes on them,
and within a week you wouldn't immediately see an end two.

(28:05):
Every time a ball goes out of bounds, players on
both teams are doing the twirl in the air. That's
rule change one. Rule change two. How do we get
rid of hack a player? Because people can say, oh,
make your free throws. Oh, it's a fine strategy. And
this is all a cousin of my tush push take,

(28:27):
which is that all sounds finding good except for when
you remember these are just polar It's just polar bears
ice skating. It's just entertainment. There is no there, There
is no oh, a moral part of this or greater
good for the world. It's entertainment, and things that work

(28:49):
against the entertainment value should be eradicated when possible. There
is nothing less entertaining than watching a basketball game grind
to a halt because a team just wants to foul
away from the ball a bad free throw shooter. So
how do you fix that? Very simple, take a page

(29:11):
out of the NFL's book. Outside of the last two minutes,
because in the last two minutes you might need to
foul for to come back. Outside of the last two minutes,
you can decline the foul. Just be like, no, we decline,
We'll take its side out. That's all. Be like, oh, okay,

(29:34):
oh it's we can shoot for those. No, we decline,
thank you, we appreciate it. We'll to go side out
of bounce. That's all you make that. There's no doubts. Again,
you can't do that the whole game. But you already
can't do haka inside the last two minutes. So we
already have made specific rules based on timing. You can't
do haka inside the last two minutes. So it's that simple.

(29:58):
And so those are these. Then we get to the
fouling up three. Oh my goodness, what are we gonna
do about this fouling up three? It's terrible for the league. Agreed,
it's terrible for the viewer. Agreed. How do you fix it?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
It's the simplest fucking thing ever. If you commit a
foul with the shot clock turned off, meaning the final
twenty four seconds outside of the three point line, it's
a three shot foul, whether the guy is shooting or not. Yeah,

(30:41):
it's that simple. And then that's done. It's guys, it
is It is intuitive simple rule changes. Rule one is
just a fun one to penalize the whiners. The twirl
is binding, and you're gonna your team's gonna be out
of challenges within ninety seconds, your coach gonna be super pissed,

(31:03):
and you might then early in the season when you're
not used to it, also rack up technical fouls because
you've done the twirls so many times and your team
is out of timeouts, and that's now a technical fine.
That'll fix itself.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Rule two.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
In the instance of hacker Mitch Robinson coming into play
the Knicks or any team subject to the hacka thing
can say, we would prefer to have the ball side
out of bounds rather than get free throws. That's all
the foul counts, it goes all of it, but we
would prefer to have the ball side out of bounds

(31:42):
if we can decline the free throws. If you hack,
if you foul us in outside of the last two
minutes and the last one to end the scourge of
fouling up three. If the shot clock is turned off
and you commit a foul outside of the three point line,

(32:05):
it is not a two shot foul. It is a
three shot foul. That's all very simple.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
The first one I go on board with.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
But the other, yeah, the take of the year. You
like when guys do.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
This, I don't like it. I just like, I understand
how much they're going to be doing that. And I
know you're saying, I know you're saying, have some discipline,
don't do it.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I don't think it's a it's as annoying as you
think it is when they will make it.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Just like I would like to. It's it's it's that
it's annoying, but it's also that it is it's a
too much boy who cried wolf. It's they know that.
It's almost like they feel like they have to. Like yesterday,
you saw it on Alexander. I mean he slaps him

(33:02):
on the never a Doubt tattoo and he's like, no, yeah,
I mean so, uh, But do you like my how
to get rid of foul?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
I'm totally on board with those other two ones. The
three three free throws outside of the three point line
makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, and and again it's the you can't just say
any foul gets you three free throws because you don't
want all of a sudden, you know, teams down too
and driving to the basket and then they you know they, uh,
you don't want that, but it is it's an easy fix.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know now that we have a friend of the show,
I know she's retired, but friend of the show Michelle Roberts,
former president of the NBA Player Association, who I see
almost every day because she lives on our block and
I hang out out side. Now that the weather's nice,
I'm gonna I'm gonna ask.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Her to pitch it, Adam or something.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah, something, or let me pitch it. I'm over. Like
I would have thought I would wanted to pitch get
me an NBA awards vote, But that ship has sailed.
I'm never getting an awards vote.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I mean, if you create a rule for the NBA.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Rule, what a legacy, What a legacy this would be
if people are like in thirty years people, if you
see an amazing finish to a game. We see an
amazing finish of the game. People are like, you know,
we used to not get those game tying threes because
guys would foul. Really, Papa, what changed that? Well is

(34:43):
this guy named Nick Wright, he did a podcast with
his son explained it. Yeah, yeah, I think that'd be exciting.
All right, let's talk more Shane.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Uh so, yeah, you've you've been pretty vocal on SGA's
foul baiting. He saw how worked out the other day
when he got to the line four times. And also
Ant has this problem with fatigue late in the late
in the year. Who do you think who do you
think's problem is bigger? As far as trying to be
the face of the league type of guy.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well, listen, Shay's thing isn't a flaw. It's just irritating. Yeah,
and it's listen it. People can debate about the skill
it takes and the I'm not gonna Shay the player,
I'm just talking about the manipulating the reps it is.

(35:39):
And I was I'll be honest, I was shocked by
the number of people who pushed back on some of
the Shay stuff like it was and there was a
lot of you say this and you're a fan of

(36:00):
and then they either said Luca Lebron or Mahomes. So
let me address each of those if I may. Luca
does not flop. Luca complaints. There is a distinction. Luca
finishes through contact. Luca is not flailing. Luca is whining

(36:22):
at all times. Now you can find that irritating, and
I totally understand that. I find it somewhat irritating.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
But he is here with SGA.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
He also doesn't really complain to the refs, I think
because he gets froding advice to his house for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
But but no, I mean, Luca is just yelling at
the refs the entire game. When he gets a call,
he's angry he didn't get it faster when he doesn't
get a call. So that that is that, you know,
that to me, is uh a crazy comp to be on.

(37:03):
Like they're just very Now you can say that's more irritating,
you hate that more, that's fine, like that's a matter
of preference. But Luca is never, never strong but close
to never trying to manipulate the officials. He's just trying
to mother f the officials. So that's the first one.

(37:24):
Lebron gets less calls per drive to the basket, and
almost any player in modern NBA history, certainly older Lebron
and Lebron I know that over the course of a
twenty two year career. Whenever you see these Lebron flopping compilations,
what you will see almost all the videos have in

(37:47):
common is he got hit. People just think he is
not supposed to be as hurt as he appears to be.
So what Lebron will do is sell how hurt he
is or the violence or velocity of the impact. But

(38:08):
he is. Lebron is not like driving to the basket
and then just falling or hooking your arm to try
to get the call. Again, you can say I hate
that one more, but those are different. Then there's Mahomes,
which again the football basketball comps I never like at all,

(38:32):
but we can get into that if you'd like. Of
all the quarterbacks in the league, the idea that there
is any evidence whatsoever that Patrick Mahomes is more protected
or does more flopping when Josh Allen exists is just

(38:55):
one of the wildest things that I've ever heard anyone
put voice to. And while here would be my response
to the Mahomes SGA thing, because the Mahomes thing really
hit a fevered pitch in the Texans playoff game. If

(39:16):
Mahomes did what he did in the Texans playoff game
every single game all year long, then you would have
the SGA comp for it. It was jarring because it
was so obvious what on two of those plays. Again again,

(39:38):
it was two total plays he was doing. But that
was one game in the guy's career versus SGA. It's
made up an art form out of it. So the
now to answer your question, though, demonte uh And is
not going to be eligible for Face of the You

(39:58):
can't be eligible. You're not gonna be Face the League
until you're winning MVPs and or championships. And he's done neither.
His game theoretically and personality is more attractive to fans
and Face the League stuff, but he's got to be
playing big games late late late in years SGA. I

(40:26):
I think the I think the foul stuff is a
wave that has crested. I think he and the refs
reacted to the criticism of Game one and he stopped
getting quite. He said, listen, he's look goting to line
a ton but most of those are warranted. He's since

(40:48):
fall over. Correct. It's just the it. It's really just
two things we're talking about. One is falling over on purpose. Yeah,
that's wait right, And the other one is the hook
the like that, which is just a first cousin of

(41:09):
Durant's ripped through. Like Durant got so good at the
ri you'd put your hand down and Durant would rip
through it and go up that they changed the rule
to where that's a non shooting foul, hardened than evolved
it to you put your arm there, I will then
hook you and then go up and it will be
a shooting foul. And Shade does that brilliantly. So maybe

(41:32):
that is a rule tweak that I can't figure out. Again,
I gave you three great rule changes and make the
NBA twice as good. I can't give you four. But uh,
but the it's really just the falling over. Like the
falling over is just so unbecoming and nobody likes it.

(41:53):
I know you have one follow up.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Here to Yeah, so you're you're heavily against his fallibating
and you say it's been all year, but he is
your MVP guy.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, so I think again, So I think that maybe
surprises people. They're like that I said, he was clearly
the MVP. He was clearly the MVP. He was the
scoring champ, good, not great, but good defensively, unbelievable offensively
for a sixty eight win team.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
He was.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Listen, I hate the toush push. I don't come on
here and be like that plays no good. It's actually ineffective.
Like I might not like some of the stylistically, some
of the way Shaye plays, but he was the MVP
of the league this year, and I would have voted

(42:45):
for him for it, like the it is. It is
odd to me that people are surprised that I can
hold both those thoughts in my head at the same time.
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the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
All right, So we know that New York, I mean,
Indy stole the first two in New York and then
Game three, New York bounce back coming back from that
twenty point win or twenty point deficit.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
It seems like something to do often. Now, will one
team pull away? Is anybody gonna no? Listen?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I think this is gonna be a seven game series.
But in order for that to happen, the Knicks need
to win tonight, and I think they are gonna win tonight.
Brew and I disagreed on this yesterday, but I I
saw there there were some things that happen in Game

(46:01):
three of that series that to me were at least
somewhat worrisome for the Pacers, which is it felt like
Carlisle was forced to start reaching a bit. Now you
might say shit, Thibodeau definitely was with Delon Right Landry

(46:25):
Shammitt playing minutes got it And this was the point
I was trying to make on TV that I did
a poor job of. But I'll try again here. The
Knicks are used to playing seven guys and getting contributions
from seven guys, so them all of a sudden potentially

(46:47):
getting contributions from Guy eight and Shamit or Guy nine
and Delon Wright is almost just like a bonus. The Pacers,
on the other hand, are reliant on had been reliant
on Ben Matherin being good for them. I mean, this
guy was sixteen a game each of the last three years,

(47:12):
sixteen a game this year, and Carlisle seems to soured
on him in this series. Obi Toppin, who has been
really valuable to them in the since he's come over
there as like an energy guy and still getting you
ten to eleven points, he has been somewhat ineffective this series.

(47:38):
That then leads to them all of a sudden being
like Tony Bradley, are you gonna give us some real minutes,
Ben Shephard, are you gonna give us some real minutes?
And it feels a little more grasping. You then add
to the fact that the Knicks were able to execute

(47:58):
that comeback to Monday with Jalen Brunton playing really poorly
until the final two minutes of that game, and Karl
Anthony Towns obviously was unbelievable in the fourth quarter. He
had four points going into the fourth quarter. So for
all those reasons, I just think the Knicks go into

(48:20):
tonight's game far better position. And I think that this
series was you can't be tied through three games, but
if you could be, this one would be like the
Knicks in historic fashion Blue Game one, the Pacers in

(48:41):
much more gradual fashion Blue Game three, Game two. What
was that a one point? Was it a one point
or three point game? With fifteen seconds left? Like that?
I'm gonna pull it up because I said that. That's
another thing I said on TV. YESA I was like,
did I get that wrong too? No, I'm right. It's

(49:02):
it's one ten, one oh nine with fifteen seconds left
and the Knicks damn near steal the ball at mid
court and just don't get it, and you know, the
Pacers end up Jalen misses the three at the end
and the Pacers win. So this is a dead even
series that I think, And this is one more thing
that then I'll get your take on it, Demonte. I

(49:25):
think that as devastating as Game one was for the Knicks,
losing it in that fashion, game three is a different
type of devastating for the Pacers because they are up
ten going into the fourth quarter to go to the finals.

(49:49):
Because you go up three to zero, the series is over.
The Pacers had this series one if they play one
solid quarter of basketball, and they couldn't. So I wonder
what type of impact that has on them emotionally. Similar
to what we saw from the Knicks early in Game
two when they didn't seem to be there emotionally after

(50:11):
blowing Game one the way they did. I know you
wanted to say something.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Go ahead, yeah, I got I got the Pacers at
six here.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
I don't think there's any way they can feel like
deflated or negatively. I know they might have had the
game in the reach and got to close out there,
but they just took two in New York. I think
they're gonna win today, and and I just like the
Pacers more than the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
It's no bad blood.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Obviously, it'd be better for the Knicks to win the finals.
Are go farther because it'd make more sense. The Celtics
got knocked out, But the Pacers have a more consistent team.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I like the Pacers more than the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
And uh, well, so listen the Pacers. What is true
about the Pacers this playoffs is they are zero to
three in game threes and ten and oher in every
other game. So the argument for them is they've gone
up too oh in every series and then lost you know,
game threes in every series. That the Knicks argument is

(51:08):
for tonight. They have been much better on the road
than at home this postseason. They are They were three
and oh on the road against Detroit, they were two
and one on the road against both and now one
and oh against Indiana. So they are six and one

(51:29):
on the road are the Knicks this postseason? And then
one and two Sorry I'm doing this on the fly,
one in two, two and one, So three and three,
three and five at home, six and one on the road,
three and five at home, which is really weird, but
it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I also, I I this is gonna sound funny because
of what game two was or Game one was.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Pardon me, but I like how the Knicks have held
Halliburton in check since game one. Game one, Halliburton was
unbelievable and executed, you know, one of the greatest comebacks
in playoff history. Game two he had I think two
points at halftime and finished with fourteen. Game three he

(52:20):
had twenty and seven assists. Like, I think they have
to feel decent about what they've been able to do
against Halliburton. And so now this is maybe just priors
because I thought going into the series the Knicks were better,
and I thought that they were gonna win this series

(52:41):
in seven games, and I still think that. I just
don't know. Is that what you said.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Seven games before? I remember the way you were talking
about the Knicks. Go. It's not like you thought they
were gonna whirl through the Pacers.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Oh I didn't. Maybe I didn't give a games pace.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Ye I don't think you gave any four HS games
yea seven the just did sond very convinced that the
Knicks We're gonna.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, I mean I I once they beat the Celtics,
I just kind of felt like this was the nixt
moment and if they can just you know, execute a
couple plays. At the end of Game one, we're feeling
very differently, but they listen. That's the playoffs, that's how
it works. I think they win tonight. If they lose tonight,

(53:28):
I think they're cooked. But I think they win tonight. Uh,
pardon me, all right, let's go to Halliburton.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
At the very beginning of the playoffs. You know, the
poll came out of Halliburton say he was the most
overrated player.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
In the NBA.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
And now fans, I think fans and the folks are
starting to swing very far in the other direction.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
What do you think of proper rating for Tyres? Haliburton
is right now.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Listen. Club Superstar opens tomorrow on the TV show Back
to Back Conference Final. Clearly the best player on the team, clearly,
incredibly Clutch is kind of an old school pass first
point guard. I he's clearly Demonse one of the fifteen

(54:18):
best players in the league, and he has an argument
that he's in that top twelve. I think that's I
think that like, who are the guys in the league
who are there is not even an argument better than him.
So let me the let me maybe pull up a

(54:43):
first draft of Club Superstar. So, no, you cannot argue
that Haliburton's better than this player. How long is the list?
Joker agreed, yeah, Jannis agreed, Shay agreed, Uh huh healthy,
Tatum agreed. Yeah, I mean the Achilles is weird, but

(55:05):
we're gonna keep Tatum where he is. Luca agreed, we're
at five. I think listen, I there are five more
players better than him. But as far as like it's
under you, there is no argument. Okay, now, guys who

(55:30):
you could make the argument he's better than but I
don't agree with it. Steph Lebron, hold on, when I
did that whole thing? Did I say? Shay said was
like the fourth Movement got leave Shaye out, Steph Lebron,

(55:53):
Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah, I was thinking Brunson like, but I was figured
like I was just thinking of my head.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
That's pretty debatable, but right, that is right.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
But I think Brunton's better than him, but it's clearly debatable.
And yeah, you're not sure.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I'd say, I mean, yeah, I think better than me.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Yeah, but it's it's close, right, And then you get
to I think two guys that are tough in how
you're gonna rank them, Anthony Davis and Kevin Durant no
embiid and bid. Yeah, I mean it's just yeah, but

(56:38):
Durant and Anthony Davis are I like, they both have
the Halliburton's way more available in those guys. They it
feels like those guys have higher ceilings. But man, oh Man,
Halliburton has more playoff moments this postseason than either one
of those guys in the last half decade. So like
there's and then there's I think he's Do you think

(57:01):
he's better than Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
I was thinking about Donovan Mitchell. Yes, actually I do. Yeah,
I do too.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I think for I think when it comes to winning, like.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I think he's better exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
So I guess my answer is the absolute highest you
could have him is sixth I think that would be irrational.
I think I have him eleventh, and I think the
lowest you could have him is fourteenth. So I know

(57:34):
that's that sounds like a bit of a cop out,
but like I think that is he's better than Devin Booker.
My answer is yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
I mean it's just like skill set exactly. I was
just thinking, like, haller Burton's just more riable player than
Donovan Mitchell or Devin.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Wimby's a tough one, but Wimby's so still something of
an unknown, you know. Wimby's almost as much of an
ideas he is a basketball player at this point. All right, people,
you go ahead and ask me about.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Mister Halliburton is allowed back into the stadium for the
Pacers home games, but he'll be in the booth for
game four.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Is there any.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I know that means he's on the call?

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Is there is there any part of you that I
would like to see him on courtside?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
All right, I I gotta tell you guys something. I
have a very what's going to be an unpopular opinion
on this.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
I'm old enough to remember how every single one of
us felt the day after he came on the court,
mocked the honest, waved that flag in his face, and
then the next day did a TV interview where he
had no remorse whatsoever and claimed he wasn't even looking

(59:07):
at you, honest. And so not only do I not
want him court side, I think he should still not
be allowed to go to the games. Okay, so I'm
the only person I think who feels like I felt

(59:28):
a whole two and a half weeks ago when we
all said he needs to be banned. Every single person
was like, you've gotta ban him, And then Halliburton hits
a game winner, and Barkley's like, free John Halliburton, and
now everyone's like, oh, yeah, in fact, sit him next

(59:49):
to Shalloman, like there is I have no reason to
believe that. I don't think this was too harsh of
a penalty.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
I don't was it just be until the end of
this season. Was that the initial.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, yes? And then they and maybe they I thought
maybe the rational was the Pacers are going to lose
to the Cavs, so it's you know, it's all one
round and now they won. I would be open to
if they make the finals letting him back, but I

(01:00:23):
don't like it. I I thought, what he again? We
are people, people have such short memories. We were all
discussing how impressive it was that Yiannis didn't punch that
guy in the face, and we were all talking about

(01:00:46):
what an impossible position he put Yannis in. Yeah, right,
And now eight games later we're.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Like, ah, I think what you do it's probably just
you know, people, people's emotions and like seeing Halibird and
I are cooking, he's making a run, his dad's not
able to go to the games.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I also think people are starting to like Halivert more.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I certainly liked Tyree's Haliburton, not more than I liked
him two months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Sure, that's fine. I like his dad less. And I
don't I the there, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I mean And when you when you said that he
said that he wasn't looking at honest, and you when
he said he was looking through him, did you think
he was being uh disingenuous? There are you saying? Do
you actually think that he wasn't trying to look at
you honest? Or I think that when he said he
was looking through.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Him, he was taunting honest. He tried to claim he
was not taunting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Honest, okay, because you made it seem like he kind
of lied about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
I thought when he said I was looking through him,
like he was saying like, yeah, I was looking at him,
like I was looking right through him type of deal.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
No, no, no, no, that that interview. Maybe I'm wrong.
I see it was him saying, oh, I didn't even
realize he was there. I was just in the moment
and that I was just I just picked that spot randomly,
and he happened to be there, and I didn't pick

(01:02:17):
up on it because I was looking through him. I
was looking at the crowd, and I'm like, that's not
a guy that feels bad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Okay, Yeah, and so maybe I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Miss interpreting it, but I didn't. I didn't like the game.
I didn't love it. All right, Let's do one quick
NFL thing and then get to some listener questions.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Sakon Barkley told Red Blanket Ship and Cooper Degene on
their podcast that the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Man, did you hold on? Did you know this demand
before we even get to it? I bad news for us.
We're now competing with a Red Blanken Hip, Cooper de
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Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
Gonna have to catch up on the archives there all right, man,
oh man, I bet that's an insightful show. I'm excited
to listen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Okay. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Told him that that that twenty twenty four Eagles team
the top five team in NFL history.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
You're obviously a NFL historian, How true?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Is that not only is it not true, it's not even.
You can't even you can't even make a credible argument
for like and by the way, Sakuon said they were
a top five team of all time and then listed
five other teams in his top five, which then would

(01:03:49):
make them, I guess, the top six team of all time.
But one of the teams he listed was the two
thousand Ravens, which is not a top twenty team of
all time. Like, none of this makes sense, but the
seventy two Dolphins that went undefeated had the number one

(01:04:10):
offense and the number one defense and beat teams by
an average of fifteen points a game. That's a top
five team of all time. The eighty four Niners that
went fifteen to one annihilated their postseason opponents start to finish,
had a top two offense, top two defense. The eighty
five Bears that everyone talks about the greatest defense of

(01:04:31):
all time, which it had, but it also had the
number two offense in the sport that year and beat
their playoff opponents Demonse ninety one to ten is a
top five team of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Bears quarterback ever throw up for more than four thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I know because they had defense.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I guess it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
But okay, the defense was amazing. They had an amazing
running game. They scored the second most points of any
team in the league that year. The the who are
the other teams? I'm leaving out an obvious one nine
to two Cowboys pretty good, seventy eight Steelers, which had
I think eleven Hall of Famers, They're pretty good. The

(01:05:13):
seven Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl. The the greatest team
I've ever seen, the twenty sixteen Patriots that went fourteen
and two and ran had a top two offense and defense.
They were pretty good. The ninety eight Broncos en route
to a back to back championship. Like listen, the Eagles
had the number eight offense, number two defense, and were

(01:05:38):
in one score playoff games in rounds one in rounds two? Now,
did the Eagles have a top five Super Bowl performance
because of what they did and who they did it to? Sure,
I'll listen to that. You want to say, did they
have a top five all time final two games by
just dismantling the Commanders and the dismantling the Chiefs. Sure

(01:06:01):
I'll listen to that. But top five? Yeah, but they
still scored fifty five, you know what I mean, or
whatever they scored like the sure. But I just people, again,
everyone just leave the list to me. Your guys lists suck.

(01:06:26):
And again I just and he wouldn't even it was
so his top Here were his top five teams of
all time for the record, seventy two Dolphins because they're undefeated.
Good job, eighty five Bears, good job, the two thousand Ravens,
who it's not even a tenable opinion. And then he

(01:06:50):
was like one of the Brady teams and one of
the Mahomes teams, like that's not even like a thing,
and so I just like whatever, Uh, all right, let's
remember to everyone like rate, subscribe, review if you have
time to, you know, when you're not listening to the

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Read Blank and Hip Cooper Degene podcast, if you want
to check out What's right with Nick? Right, we'd appreciate it.
You think I'm being rude there, Demansey.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Hey man on the podcast, It's gonna be very insightful,
and you know, I like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I'm gonna go do a three cone drill after this
after our pod. All right, what are some listener questions?

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Cale suggests another rule change.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
What do you think about there being a timer on
replay reviews if the reps can't clearly overturn the call
in one minute call stands.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
That's how it was when they brought it to the
NFL initially, and that's of course how it should be.
There was a real timer, and the logic was within
thirty or forty five or sixty seconds, I don't remember.
If we can't figure it out within this timeframe, then
whatever we then it's not clear and obvious. The whole
idea was. The idea behind replay was to fix egregious mistakes,

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not to parse hundredths of a second, you know, through
zapruder film. That's not what it was there for. Let's
go on to the next one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Jam as has there ever been a team that is
the youngest and best team in the NBA like this?

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Okay, see team well, I mean OKC in twenty twelve
had a shot and people can be like, oh, they
weren't the best team. They were the favorites over Lebron's
heat in the finals. They were the favorites and they
won Game one, so you know that was they had

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a real argument for it. They just you know, Lebron
and d Wade just weren't having it all right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Next, Uh, Curtis, if you manage the MAVs, would you
rather have Luca and Brunson or Flag A D and Kyrie?

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Luca and Brunson. I mean, listen, Kyrie is coming is
dealing with a catastrophic kne injury. Ad is thirty two
and has real injury questions. And I like the idea
of Cooper Flag But those other guys are two top
eight players in the league. Uh, so that's not even

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a question to me, do Luca?

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I mean, I mean they did get traded away from
each other's teams for a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Do those guys even work together like that? And considering
their play style?

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
No, I don't think so, but I do. I just
think you could, you know, figure out a way to
make it work, figure out a way or flip one
for a real bounty, not what they flipped Luca for,
you know all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Right all right?

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Next, Trey ass, what events are you playing in World
Series of Poker this year?

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Great question? So I actually, uh, it's not at all
what you guys expect. So I and now some hopefully
I won't play in all of these because the final
table for some overlaps with the other events. But theoretically

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I am playing in the ten thousand dollars Dealer's Choice Championship,
which is an demons. It's an unbelieve. There are twenty
two different games and every seven hands, a different person
at the table gets to pick which game they're playing

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for those seven hands. So like, so there's twenty two
different variations, okay, from seven card stud to Badoogie badou
se five card draw which is like the you know
old school game regular nolamit hold them big. Oh, and

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so you have to be able to play and know
the rules and be sophisticated at all the games. So
that is that's the tournament I want to play, and
that's the tournament. So that so that's one. I'm also
going to play the fifteen hundred dollars Badugie. A lot
of this just has to deal with the tournaments that

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are being played while I'm out there. I might play
what will be the most bananas tournament of the series
and the first time they've ever held it, the fifteen
hundred pot limit Omaha Double Board Bomb Pot Tournament, which
is just going to be billful and then I'm probably

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also going to play in the ten thousand dollars seven
Card stud Championship. So I'm not playing any traditional no
limit hold'ems, and I'm playing all these different mixed games
and i couldn't be more excited. So those are the
ones that those are the ones I'm playing in. All right,
go to Eric's question before we.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Get out of the Drake May question here today, expectations
for Drake May this year feels like he used to
be higher on him, but have had.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
A count counter.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Turbulence count counterbalance counter oh oh, counter turbulence is not
a word.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Counterbalance, Wild's optimism.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Sorry, I listen. I like I like Drake May coming
out of school because he's very young and very big
and very strong. And that's how I like my top
three picks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
I want him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
I don't want him to have sixty starts under their belt.
I want him to be young and six four and
big and all that stuff. And I thought he was
fine last year. What the wild thing is that he's maddening,
and it is that he has just completely changed what
all of his rules ever were for grading quarterbacks were

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for this guy, and he is he is acting as
if that he sees more in Drake May than he
saw in mac Jones, which he should because Drake Mays
objectively better than mac Jones. But he loved mac Jones.
So to answer your question, yeah, I just got a
I I Wild. It's so yeah. Wild is just so

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punch drunk on the fact that he has a quarterback
that can throw, you know, could throw a ten yard
out route through a couple plies of bounty, that he
doesn't know what to do with himself. So that's it,
all right, Everybody like rate subscribe review if you could.
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Volume and DraftKings. And if the game tonight is insane,
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to probably just do a show on Thursday, and my
guess is on Thursday we will be discussing the Knicks
having tied the series two games apiece, and the Thunder
advancing to the second finals in team history. See you guys, then,

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what's right