"COME ON NOW!" w/ Jacquis Neal, Shaun Diston and Lamar Woods

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? A production of iHeartRadio?
Oh boy, you guys seventeen hours last night, but at
least we got the oldies and the youngies getting ready
to get out of the beach. It's worth it. I
literally had to take a minute. I took an hour
nap in the middle because I write. I write it
all out like a serial killer, and I was like,

(00:21):
I've gotta.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It was too much to I had.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I kept pressing snooze. I took it. I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna take a twenty minute nap, and then I
was like I took an hour nap in the middle
of apartment. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I was having fun watching, but I definitely was like, okay.
Every time they say our three hour finale, I was.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Like, sighed, I can'tnot even hello, Welcome to another episode
of Week except this Rose. My name is Ard Marine
Company from my bougie garage with Los Angeles, California. Wow.
What we did it?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Wow? What we labored through?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
That we labored through that shit. I don't even know
how I feel about it. I can't wait to break
it down. I've received texts from some of you already
about this. I mean, I'm so excited. I'm going to
start to my right a gentleman, my friend who you?
He d m me and he was like, I'm watching
this season and I need to come on.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
I was like, I was like, I need to talk
to somebody. I was just sitting here watching it by myself.
She let me talk to her and I have a
podcast about this.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, I thought you were in New York because I
saw you. You're going to see Carl at SNL and
you're going with yeah, yeah, you're no, that's right, you're
working with Tracy. Yeah, yeah, that's so funny on the
fiftieth Oh my god, Eddie Murphy doing Tracy was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, I'm so glad to be back home, back in
l A.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, he slid into my DMS. He's like, I'm watching
the show and I need somebody to talk about this
to the right place, and we're gonna have you on
for the finale so you can talk about your whole
feelings of the seasons. He's an actor, he's a writer,
he's a comedian, he's a podcast host. He wrote a
New Girl Brooklyn nine nine Grand Crew. You have an

(02:02):
improv team with Carl Tart and a bunch of guys
the Big Team. And what's your podcast called?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
We're about to know it?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Not out yet, but it's called bottom Beings where me
and Carl will watch Sopranos together.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh my god, lady for the first time x.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
X L Bottom Bings, isn't a hope?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
So used to be a gossip.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Gossip girl for the first time, Lamar, Yeah, oh my god,
I was delighted when you slid in. To make this
happen very.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Serious, I was like, I was delighted when you slid in,
and I will Lamar's face out the favorite term that
he's ever heard.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Everyone said that delighted. Okay around the corner also delighted, okay,
he he have. You had a lot of feelings. I've
got a lot of d ms from you throughout you were.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I too, don't know where to direct my feeling, So
I'll watch this show.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Maybe. So you were so mad at women? Tell all
you were so you're you? Yeah, you felt Carolina was
done dirty.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I am constantly defending who I call the normal people
of this show. Let's talk about Braiden. Listen, you guys
were giving you all this ship when they were coming
after Braiden, and I said, Braiden.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Is the only normal place because we met him, and
you were right, And I.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Kind of think it's a similar thing with Caroline.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I can't get on board with that, but I respect you.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
You haven't been on Carolina Borre since the first episode.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, she's she's so hot. I understand. He's an actor,
he's a writer, he's a podcast host, he's in comedy
Bang May. He's a writer and producer on Twisted Metal.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
He's a defender of the toxic people of television show
people of the Toxic Night.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
If you're the hoddest toxic person, you'll defend you. Yes,
okay with This is a man who met Charity in Dowton,
and I thought you also met Lamar. You met Charity
and the.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Crazy When I saw her on the show, I was like,
you know her just from that experience at the.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Bar and his mom I kept the second I saw
them sitting in the crowd, he looked taller than ever
sitting down.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
He grows.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Was there too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Madam Dotton and his mom.
I want her to I wanted his mom to adopt me.
She kept like putting my head on her bosom and
she was like, and she kept being like. She was like,
she's like, you're a good girl. It was like, she
was like, you're a good girl. You bring your girl.
I literally just I never felt so comforted in my life.

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And I was like, I please adopt me. I'm in
And she felt like she felt like if I really
handed her papers, she would assigned them to adopt me.
And that's what I love about her. Okay. He is
the host of Comedian Class. He also is all over
Dropout TV. He was on Grand Crew. He's a brilliant comedian, actor, writer.
He's the best person. He's also the Horny Pool inspector

(05:10):
of the podcast. And I'm gonna say the Ladies fan favorite.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Literally, I love him.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm going to say, you even beat out Jerry Trader.
I feel like you are number one for the females
of Willie except this Rose Jackie.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Can I say how much I appreciate that for the
season finale of Grant we got three black men.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, talk about it.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I said this last night that the Bachelor of all
places has become one of the foremost places for black
men healing. This guy talked to his dad. I was like,
what is happening right now, we're watching Disney incredible.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
As a person who had a father that went through rehab,
if only my dad could have been like his dad,
you know what I mean, Like he has a success
story that it actually worked for him, that he was
able to speak from the heart. I have an attic dad,
and my outcome was not like I was like, wow,
whatever rehab. He went to give his sponsor a raise

(06:16):
because this man is he called us sound a gem
a gem? The word a gem was.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Didn't this also happen with Matt James, Like, wasn't there
another like well thing where someone with their parents, Like
I feel like my.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Dad wasn't around and then they got and then the
people were saying like they were mad at a like
so the dad didn't show up and like and there
was a controversy over that. So like I felt, I
was I loved okay all this coming from New York Queen.
Look how tired she is. I feel like she stayed

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up all night watching it. Look at what's happening there.
I want to hear. Give me one piece of hot goss,
you know, is the wind beneath my wings? Hannah Montana,
Ariana Rosanna Rosanna Dana Minten's Mareen Rosenier Levigne. Welcome to
the program, doctor Banana.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
Bam, thank you. Yeah, that was the longest show ever.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
I get dragged off.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Yes, yes, yes, I watched it on Hulu and when
it when I turned it on, I was like, did
they put ads back on my shoes?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Like when I saw the.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Time I started early? I started early. I was like,
I was gonna I stole my friend's Hulu Live log in,
so because I know I gotta write it all out,
can tell our affair. So I was like, I'm gonna
I stole my queen, our queen that I'm not going
to say her name. I know who the queen is,
and so I stole her logging because obviously she has

(07:46):
the Hulu Live. I'm not paying for that, but I
stole it and I recorded. I watched it, and I'm like, fuck,
I literally knocked out. I knocked out at like eight thirty.
I woke up to Latia getting broken up. But I
was like, fuck, you know that I do backing up
also with us, here we go a woman. Can I

(08:07):
just say who? When Mew passed? She gets you have
been the you have been the like the there, you've
been the sponsor to Mitten, your gift for mit my
you have You've gotten my little, my little damaged girl.
And I'm talking about me and Mittens. You've gotten us
through KT money Kat money.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Let me.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Apparently started like screaming, me owing when she screamed. When
she saw you, she screamed for you. She's gotten needed.
I's been the boy. I went to pet her and
then I put her and then she was like this, no, no, no,
it's hard to get. She's like Grant. She wants you.
If you don't want her, you want I want somebody else. Okay,
overall thoughts on the season, Lamars, this is your first time.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I liked it a lot, I did you it was.
It was my first time really watching from beginning. I've
seen episodes, but never like yeah, from front to back,
pro ceremony, after road. It was exhausting and stressful. Yeah,
but yeah, I thought it was really good. I just
really I really like Grant, Like I don't have anything
to compare him to, but he was really good at

(09:10):
being a bachelor.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I thought, here's my favorite bachelor. I know that some
other gentlemen here might disagree we've had some very boring bachelors.
So usually ABC picks a man that doesn't feel me
if I'm gonna be part in my part of my French.
But I feel like they picked somebody that doesn't feel
like they'll fuck your daughter. And Grant is clearly gonna

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like if he wants to, he's gonna get a yes,
you know what I mean. They pick they pick very
new guys generally like it like don't worry ABC like threatening,
non threatening, not not like hot, pick like kind of
like lame.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Like just like lame duck.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, this was a hot guy. They picked a hot guy. Okay,
And so you're mad at him, you met her, you
met at Grant. We gotta say that I'm not.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I'm not so I'm not mad at him for the season.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
You're mad at him for last night.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Last night.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I was like, oh you you you are just the
basic bitch. Yes, you are just like a basic And
that's okay.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
This is all just so we're all talking about the
decision he made, right. Yeah, I feel like I was
about anyway. I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
It did feel a little bit like they could have
just met on Riah and called like we saved us all. Yeah, yeah,
I really thought a lot about this, and we'll get
into this more later because I look even though I
actually it was the first time in my life I
got the guest, right, I pict Ulianna to win.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Were the picks?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I've been okay, and I actually feel like I had
Zoe in my top three because I feel like I
think I got two of the three. Would just shocked it.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I was shocked. I definitely thought you, I think.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I must have had he This was like this what
we do on our like we do this before it
even airs, based on the photos.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So this.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
Yeah, yeah, Zoe, Jane and Rebecca. That's what both Jenny
and Rebecca were like.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I had Rebecca the hot nurse, and you had.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Juliana, Zoe Rebecca, Oh my god, I had the top.
I had Zoe, Juliana, Jane Alay.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I thought Rose was going.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
I felt like.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
You did me.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
They played that clip a thousand.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Times this year.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I felt like, I will just say this, even though
Juliana was my draft pick, I really felt like he
loved Letilla, but I feel like her reveal of I'm
a Mormon late in this season, and then that weird hometown.
I felt like. But even on him walking in, he's like,
I'm fine, I like to party. It was like the
once he felt second thought. I think it was that,

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don't you think, which is a huge thing to reveal.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I gotta agree.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
He disagreed.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It was fucking It was overnights.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
She did not have sex with him. Yes, that's what
it was.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
And he even said he even said to his dad,
He's like, there's this thirty one year old woman. She's
ready to get married. She's great. He's the other ones,
and the other ones more fun. He's likely the other
one exactly. Look, I here's what I'll say this. When
I came on earlier in the season, I said I
like Grant and I still do. But he is a
classic boy. He says all the right things. He says

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things to make people like him. He knows how to
make people like him. And I knew he was like
destined for a downfall. And it's exactly what happened. He
told two women he loved that he shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Is that happen?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Doing it more and more back and then they didn't
used to do it. It was a no no. And
then they weren't on time.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
There was a man named that Wildest Thing. I didn't
understand how he was going to get out of this.
Don't break I'm like, what, they're going to break hearts?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah? Sure, it was doing that.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
More and more. They've been wild now without lately and
it's not it's not usually they would just be like,
I'm falling. You think it's because she didn't fuck.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I think that's a part of it.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I do.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to his first
season in the franchise, which is when I first talked
about him during draft days.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
This is who I said he was.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Charity, charity was trouble making. You picked him as your
fire or your villain. You picked him as a villain.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
I think so I picked him as a villain and
and and I don't want to say he was a villain.
I think he was a cool guy. He's a good guy.
He was a fun guy. He was fun to watch
it during the season. He's not but like and nobody's perfect.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
But I was like this, you are.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
He played the game even when we I was like,
you played. He's he knows how to date and he
knows what to do. And he loved mom her. He
did love and like every time she would pull away,
he knew what to say to bring her back. He did,
he did, And then it was the hometowns. But it
was the overnights once he clapped them cheeks and she

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didn't let him clap those was fun.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I think I didn't Julie, am I wrong? Did Julianna
say after the overnight something to the effect of like, well,
I can get down and dirty or something.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Didn't she say.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Something like basically, I think he had a good time.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
I think, and I don't want to say think it
could be the fam I did. I think he got
along his family, her family wanted to.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Marry her dad.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I think he was Joe passion and his family was terrifying. Yeah.
It was in so many ways.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
That was the sort of get out situation.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I don't know, like it literally looked like get out.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I do think.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Come with me tell her?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I just I think that he even with the timeline
conversation they were having, I think he was letting it
be known like I'm not ready to have kids. I
think that was him being like, yeah, in four or
five years, I might marry Letia but I still want
to have fun. Like he wasn't there to like get married.
He talked all this shit about getting married and having kids.
He wasn't ready.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
He wasn't really bother me that he's thirty one and
one third disgusting thing.

Speaker 9 (15:19):
Yeah, it was crazy one did that.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
He thought it was gross, just that like, you know,
she is ready to put it. No, but that is
problematic to be a like an aging thirty one year old.
The one that said it multiple times.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
And we actually had a listener who is ex Mormon
right in and be like, there's no way they wouldn't
have tried to get him to convert. Like it's apparently
like the highest honor to get someone to convert and
you go to like a special place in their heaven
or something.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, marriage, doctor Banana, what do you think of all this?

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Here's the thing. I think he picked the right person
for him.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, I already agree with that.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
Yeah, he got the girl.

Speaker 8 (16:00):
That just wants to hang out and have fun. And
I think it all worked out how I was supposed to.
And I thought, you know, in the end, it just
wasn't Litia, like the.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Love the love bombing was the main error.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
It was annoying.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Oh yeah, that's someone who doesn't watch this. So I'm
still a little confused because I feel like that's all
they do. I mean, even with the other you're hitting
on Carolina, He's like I can see a future with you.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
You're hitting on the kind of dissonance of the show.
Like I constantly like complain, Like I don't complain, but
I'm like when people act real, Like when Carolina was
like I Coul'd just be saying I'm in love with him.
Everyone's like, you don't trust the process.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Of truth. You do this with everybody like they did
it with Maria in that one season. It's like so mad.
They'd be like I just can't believe he's on a
date right now.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I'm like, yeah, he's on a date with another girl,
Like I don't understand what's the problem.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Also, to keep in mind, these people don't have their phones,
they don't have their computers, they can't talk to anybody.
They have producers that are just like ship to try
to make them go pay. What do you think she's
doing on the date with her? Do you think they're
making now?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Like they yeah, it's that's what I think.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Just to give Grant some grace a little bit or
like I'm trying to imagine I'm in this situation right
because I'm like, I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Why anyone would do this show.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
And you know, it's like you know, I mean, even
we go down to the last too, it's like, you
know what he'll going home.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
They are so surprised, Like she's so surprised that it's
like he has to cut somebody. He has to cut somebody,
I know, but he didn't have to say to her,
you're it, I mean with it.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
But I think there's some and apparently since the beginning
he was that that's interesting her, that's not.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay if he was doing that, because he didn't even
deny it.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
He didn't deny it. But also not to be like
the man.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
I'm not trying to defend a fun boys, but I
just think if I was him right, and I'm not sure,
like because I'm thinking, like, okay, like when they keep
because it sound like a line, but what he's saying,
I'm leading with my heart, and I think to do
for that show to work successfully, you would have to
like be fully open right with woman's good. And then

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he's like if he's not saying it's like, how do
you build a connection?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I think you're totally I think you're totally right, Lamar, Like,
if he's not open to being in love with both
of them, how can he really choose right? But that
is what's messed up about the show is that they
make somebody do that. But then it's like, I actually
think the biggest thing was and I don't. I don't
want to like make it sound like, oh, she didn't
have sex with them, so he wasn't into it, Like
I don't think it was that per se, But it

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is the question mark of like, well, we haven't had sex.
What if that is a bad part of our relationship.
We haven't explored that thing. We've said I love you,
so is she and I've had sex with her and
I know it's good, you know what I mean? So
I think it's so complicated and I hear you.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
I'm with you on this. I think he picked right
to Anna's point. I do agree he.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Did love how she held she loved her. I think
she was right for him. I think I think I
disagree with doctor.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I actually also thought she was right.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I think I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Think I actually feel rich for him. I agree with you.
I feel like, if if it didn't feel like too
much of a lifestyle change, And unfortunately, I think, like
like that family visit, even though they were all incredibly kind,
it's a whole other planet to walk into for somebody
that's not from around that kind of a thing. And

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I can see a chemical shutdown, and you're already so
deep in and you've fallen for this person. You've said
all these things, but then he kept saying it. He
kept saying it, and but I I do think, unfortunately,
people are the whole package. But like I do think
who she was is I agree with you. I feel
like she would have.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Been he would have been so much happier in the
long run. But I think you also have to you
have to remember, Lamar, that these proposals turn into publicly
dating for about a year and a half before they
break up.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
They almost never get married.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
I don't think they ever get married, and rarely so
for him, he's like, all right, who am I going
to publicly date and be around for a year and
a half the woman who's kind of more fun?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I really felt like, I really felt like Lyzia would
have been an incredible wife for him.

Speaker 9 (20:33):
She was an incredible wife for anybody, incredible family person.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
And I think he would have been happy with her
and like that. But it is interesting, like what our soul,
It's almost like there's also something to like, well he
got she was so in. The chase was done.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
The chase was done.

Speaker 9 (20:50):
The chase is a part for me like that, I
know we got I know we got it.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
And Julian, Juliana kept it to be like, you know what,
I was having trouble, but I do love life, holding.

Speaker 9 (21:02):
All the way up, all the way up until pretty
much the last episode.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
She was just like, I don't know if I'll say yes.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Like that change he did, And that's the part that
that's the part I know we got to talk about
the episode, but like I think that's right. I think
that is what was most disappointed for me, which is
why I was upset, Like it's it's what I thought
Grant was when I first when we first talked about
it him in the draft two years ago or two

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seasons ago, right, and then like he spent two seasons
like kind of breaking that idea of him down that
he's a good dude. And I'm not saying he's not
a good dude, but he's like emotionally available and intelligent
and all for it to just come down to he
just wanted to fuck.

Speaker 9 (21:43):
It's so disappointing. Disappoint I hear you.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I feel like that. It doesn't disservice to Julianica. I liked.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
I feel like she was like I think she really
they really like in terms of just emotionally watching them around.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I feel like he was having more fun with her.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
I disagree. I think he was having more fun with Latia.
And also by the end, I disagree with you guys
are crazy. By the end in their conversation, this is
how Juliana talk to him, Like in the beginning, it's like, Hi,
everything's about everything. By the end, she's like, I have
been thinking, and I do think about the life we

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want to have together.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
I do love you, Like, are you talking about That's
I'm not talking about in the earlier part.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
But you know, she got frozen. She goes, yeah, that
is a really good question, A great question.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Do you love my son?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
That's a really good She's like on the debate stage
or something.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
All Right, you're right, you guys are right about that.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
But I feel like, just like there's ties with him
and Latia be together and like they ain't talking about
ship right now.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
It all looks kind of boring there.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
There are guys in Hollywood, and I've been imagine in
any city that I have over the years, when friends
and I would call crush collectors where they are they like,
so it's I mean, maybe it could be like a
sex addict or a love addict where they lock in
on you and like you're the most interesting woman they
have ever and they like and they're like, so, oh

(23:15):
my god, like this fascinating crazy you know, and they're
like it's like but it's really about that they're like
romancing themselves. It's them like seeing themselves through your eyes.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
If this person is so cool and they kind of
like me, that makes me inter.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
The second you're in then they're okay. And then it's
like on the like they just collect like the second
they've gobbled you up, like an addict, like a piece
of candy energy vampires.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, like the crush collectors.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
And then and then it's like they got it. They
put it, they put it in their little bag and
then like they just like and they and I think
What's crazy about crush collectors is they each time they
do it, I think they sincerely believe Yes, this, I
think they believe you. Finally you're here, it's you. And
then it's like okay, I got them, like no, Like.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
All three of us are nodding our heads in a way.
I was like, yeah, that was my twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, I mean they all got to go through it.
To God, I don't done it.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah, I can't believe that are doing this podcast right now.
You shot at jack Kee.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
This is a beautiful thing right here. It's like we're
going to grow together.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I've done it, but I have I have a couple
have done it.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Can I have to ask a couple of questions because
I just to understanding now better.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
So the the way the finale was structured, the way
it was like in a our auditory, Yeah, the live
audience is that normal.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
That it cuts back to the the finale.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
You need to add at least twenty minutes of Jesse
going what you just saw, We're about to see this, this,
and this, let's.

Speaker 10 (24:49):
Watch it now, like this is the most dramatic and
shock everything is the most true.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
What he was going to pick someone the way he
was acting like he might not pick.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Anyone off to fake es. He got his great hand
and he was ready.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
And then one more question, who was Who's Jesse? Who
was this guy? He used to play in an NFL.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
He was a former bachelor. He was a bachelor, he
didn't marry his pick, and then he was the NFL
and he's like a host on NFL and then he
hosts like a cooking show in Canada, does the Great
British Bake Off, but like in Canada, right like him?

Speaker 4 (25:25):
But I feel like there was another guy, Harrison, did
you did you know what happened? I heard like he
did something. Is that kind of racist?

Speaker 8 (25:34):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yes, I fell into a little bit of a racist trap,
got kicked off the show. Yes, the first season they
had a black bachelor.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
He was gone. I think they literally got a black
bachelor to like cover because he they Yes, that's right,
they had they had a black bachelor, Matt James, and
he picked this one who Jesse?

Speaker 2 (25:55):
They just broke off, Yes, and she had some.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
That was like had a plantation, had a plantation and
like a hoopskirt and then he so then he went
on like it was access with the very first black bachelorette,
and they had a discussion about it, and he kept
like man splaining to the first black bachelorette why it
wasn't racing. He's like, this girl wanted to put on
a pretty party dress, like and like and like Rachel's

(26:22):
a lawyer. She's like a lawyer, yeah, problem yeah, And
he's like, so we're going to punish this poor girl
just enjoy her dress up, like and then he man splained.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
It wasted something, it was bad racism aside, do you
all prefer?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
It?

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Does feel like the hosting sounds very different to me.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Jesse's bat.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
He honestly never did much. They would show up and
just be like, this is the final Rowse Chris Harrison.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Always knew a little ball, a little bit like he
might want to try to fuck some of the people
that get kicked off, whereas I feel like Jesse might
just want to play golf with the guy.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah. Jesse's always like, let's play some hoops. Well yeah,
I love playing hoops.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, we're gonna take a quick breaker.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
We'll be right back. H O bone zone.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Time for the bone zone, and we're back here we are,
So the wind is whipping. The Dominican Republic really did
not have a good showing. The weather was rough in
the d R.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yes it was.

Speaker 9 (27:31):
The rather was rough, like like walking like.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
That walk. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
The course that she was wearing to be broken up
with wearing that courses in.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
The rain, in the rain, in those heels. I also
felt like, get that person a pea to walh like
to walk her down, to hold the arm of someone.
She was in the tightest little walk.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, you don't need to see that walk on.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
This is three hours. We need to see everybody getting
from place.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
You feel like als walk was way faster.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
The reveal of the shoes getting out of the cars
very important, so that you know first is cut.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
So that's and you see the audience being like, oh, hell,
I actually did it. Used to be like used to
be like you never knew, you didn't know.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
I honestly, like I honestly thought that was about to happen,
because I was like, there's no way he's not picking.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah. I was like I thought he was, because.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
They did like havelward like they would literally they used
to and then they're like, hold on, I gotta break
up with the other.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Person, got to wait in the back. Love you stay
over here. I gotta go. I'm gonna marry you. Let
me go break over my girls.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
So we have he goes. I picture Letia being my wife,
you know. And so there they are, and so the
family together. It's the first time in a decade that
they've been in the same room. And I felt like
everyone was cool. The mom, what a sweet family. This
sister's energy felt like she preferred Letia.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
She was pissed.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
The finale.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
Parents liked Juliana Moore though, but this thought the mom
liked Really, I thought the mom like together.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Dad was like, I know what, I know what happened.
You don't.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Like Dad like Juliana. He was like This sister looked
pissed in the audience at.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
The end, Well because she's seeing her brother kind of
be a little bit of a boy. She might have
just been upset with him. Honestly, yes, because I don't know,
Like I didn't see her, did she did she interact
with Juliana. I don't know she was.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Them because I think it was a good interaction.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
In the mom was so adorable. She what a welcoming family.
The mom was so cute. You know, here she is
with her. I'm sure she loved her ex, like when
you're dealing with addiction, you love and like until you
just can't take it anymore. Like I'm sure she didn't
want to break. She married him because she loved him
and so like and everyone he's they said he had

(30:22):
was currently in and out of rehab, like so like
here he is. They're so sweet, she's so warm. She's
talking to Letia first, and her questions were so cute.
She's like, what were some memorable moments? Yeah, memorable moments, Like.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
It's like, were some memorable moments, and then Lytia would
be like, you know, we would do this, we did that,
and then like she asked Julian, and Julian is like.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
That is a really good question.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's like she is playing the game so hard.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I know they definitely got coached, and but no, I
felt like Latia sincerely felt like she was there to
get her husban been. Yes, I felt like she was
in love with him.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
She was in she or at least she convinced herself.
But I think she had she had feelings.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
For her because they were like warm and giggly and
like her her whining to protect young Yeah. Young.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Latia says something that really resonated with me. She said,
when I see you nervous and I want to I
want to feel you. I want to take on yours.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
That's so beautiful. Yeah. When she said, I was like,
I was.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So. That was a little bit later in their date,
right or No, that was later when they do the
dates and she it was the last moment before the
before and I got to say the whole time, I
was like, he's looking for an out with Latia. I
know he's looking for an out. He's trying to bring
up the timeline thing.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
He was chewing his jaw was going well.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
When we get to it, Latia's performance when he asked
her about the timeline credible. Is Michael Jordan esque one
of the greatest performances I've ever seen in the show.
It was incredible.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
She was incredible. Okay, so here we go, just to
get to the more fun part. So they talked to
the fail. I saw your family, Oh, so she I
felt her when I saw him with my family, Yes,
and that he wanted to take care of everyone, that
he wants to everyone wants to be She's like, yeah,
since he was a little boy, always been a caretaker.
I'm like, well that's growing up. He's like, ok, fucked up. Okay,

(32:15):
You're okay, okay. So then you know Grant experienced a
lot of lows, but now he's up with you. He's
feeling good. Finally he's struggling to find happiness. So she's like,
so are you in and she's like, I am a
thousand percent short. I'm like, so the mom was in
on Lycia.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
You remember you were worried that her saying like I'm
asking you to walk away from that was about the Mormonism.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
She didn't care.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, she didn't care because Latia was very smart to
be like, I can't wait to see how your family is.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I can move to you.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
So it's like, yeah, Latia was playing the game too,
but she was there to get her husband.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
She was an error. She should have had a much
smaller hometown. I think she could have got I know,
but it wasn't fun. But it wasn't fun. First of all,
if you're gonna also have that much of a feeling
of get out, have some landscaping.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
It just can't be a clearing.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
There was no garden. It was just like it was
like a log cabin in the middle of like Wyoming.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
As much as we're talking about letia be in the
right fit, we can't discount that this guy's dad is
from New York, very Italian neighborhood, so being around these
Italians might have felt more comfortable home.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Like you're a man that's stuck around, You're the dad
that stuck around.

Speaker 9 (33:38):
It's so interesting though, Like I I can't I.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
I can't imagine meeting someone's family and then being like,
unless they were like racist, but I can't imagine being
like this family seems more fun like your family.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Like I agree. I was gonna ask you, is that
something that do you feel like the family factor is
in all? I was surprised that I don't think, so
what do you? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I think this, yeah, Mormon family living in the middle
of Utah or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, maybe I feel like he could have got it.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
There's alcohol, like he's like got his he guys like
a what is his car that he has?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Lamborghini?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Like he's like, where am I right now?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Like I dated a Mormon girl in New York, New York.
She was in New York and she had I think
her family was maybe in the more like liberal side
of it, and it never was a thing that ever
came up, like Mormonism or anything. She was like, yeah,
my family's Mormon. I don't care. Like, yeah, it wasn't
a big deal. But this was like you go to

(34:45):
their house in Utah. Yeah it's a different thing.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, it seemed like but it didn't seem like another
one of those things like the pregnancy of having a baby,
just a thing for him to get out of.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, because I don't I think if he really loved it,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
He kept I want to family, own kids, I want
lots of kids. And then she's like, okay, let's do it. Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
That is exactly him trying to find a way out.
But but the timeline you you had in two years.
What if I said I needed another year.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Because you kept saying you want to her with your family,
like I'm giving.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
You to Here's the first fucking date was him bringing
kids to a basketball Like what did you talk?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
And now he's like, actually, I still want to have
fun for a couple more years. Bit you were basketball
player that was out here like, man, I've just been
cooked up or whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Madrid and a American Republic.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You have lived the life.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You lived seven and you're hot, and you have money
and a ferrari. You're a probe. I think you've lived your.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Life, a little bitch.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
The dad is so sweet. He's like, I love them,
you know, And he's like, Dad, I'm scared of her timeline.
And the dad is like, you know what, you can't
be there's never.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Planning on your life, son, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
He's like, if it's perfect, he's like, he's like, okay,
the timeline, okay, what so that he's okay, So what
is your timeline? Is it two years? Is it three?

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Or four?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Us?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Like he was just looking for an hour after that.
I think it was after that hometown.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
It might have been. It might have started there, but
then it ended with some But if it were me,
if I were in his position, I would get rid
of Zoe, or I would keep Zoe, get rid of Latia.
If you're already feeling.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Instead of Lata. Yeah, he just loved her.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Give no emotional connection to Zoe.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
If he should have, you should have just kept her
up and then don't know why she was there, the
dad because Carolina got done dirty.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
But I respect you.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Then the dad was like, don't let that put you
in a box, and then your happiness has to be
number one. I love you, I love you.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Yeah. I was bawling at this moment.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Oh my god, the dad and then they say to
each other and he's like, I love you. And then
Grandma's like to Litia was like I love you, I
love you. And then she's like, look, I haven't said
it before to anyone. And I saw his juice job.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, he was like, oh no. His heart dropped.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
He was like oh, He's like yeah, and like she's like,
I love you. I just love you. I'm excited to
spend more time with you. And I felt like he
got the ick because she was all in.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I felt like he was like, I think that you
guys might be right. It was already the writing was
on the wall. And I think he was going into
this last week thinking there's the Mormonism thing, there's the
pregnancy thing, like this can be a very easy decision,
and I think Latia made it so hard for him.
On every step. She every time he was like looking
for a moment to like say something, she'd be like, no,

(37:40):
I'll wait. As a matter of fact, you could be
a great father. I was like, oh, she's for everything
word and he was like come here and she was
like pick me, and he's like, come here, I gotta
kiss you. I could see in that moment. I was like,
now you're going to make this harder than you needed
to make that.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Harris said that first time I loved you was him.
That's why I think he was. I think he I
think he already made his mind up. But I think
I think that was all him being like, I don't
know how to hurt her. At this point, he was like,
I can't do this start he could. He He got
me upset when he said uh, he was like, you're
not gonna look at me different?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Like I was? I was like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Why you already know what you're doing now? It's it's
too late. It's too late, you broke your broken heart.
But I'm not so soured on Grant maybe as you
guys are.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I think the show is derange. Everyone's gonna be Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
This shit is crazy. I feel like I feel like
he was probably like, do you think about if you
on that show? Probably don't have a connection with anybody
on there. Really, and then you meet the one girl
who's like if I'm early on, you're like, I'm not
saying it was right what he did, but if you're like, Okay,
Latia seems like.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
The only one I kind of really want to be with.
I hope she like I want her to know.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
To get to just to stick around and just be
like like, yo, I think I think this is the
girl that I want to really focus on.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
And then he and then he's never done the show before.
Maybe he's done show.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
So he does the show and he actually knows the opposite.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Okay, we're gonna give jack ke'th the last word before
we go to break in the doctor Banana.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yeah, I mean even the mom was like, don't pick
that girl about Jillianna. Yeah, even remember she was like,
I don't know she loved you. If she don't tell you,
don't pick her. Yeah, Like and then she told her
blah blah blah, like Juliana knows how to.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Play the game.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
They all know how to play the game. Yeah, yeah,
they all know how to play the game.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
But you know, big, doctor Big.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
I think Sean had a very important point where he
just said this show is deranged. That's all she said, like, Letia,
this show is deranged.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Do you think I have any idea?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
What I mean? You're going on the Bachelor as an
innocent Mormon gal.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
Yeah, But that's also like her, like she's going on
this show. First all, she knows he's going to fuck
other people, and she goes on and be like I
don't want him to be intimate with other people.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
This is the fucking show.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
And then also like somebody has to get cut, he
chooses one person, yeah, you know, and it's like she,
I mean, I get like she can be upset, but
it's like, you do know what you signed up for.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, it's so weird. Every time they get mad, I
don't get it. Like it's just like they're like what
You're like, how could you tell me all this stuff?
But I'm like, why don't you go get in the
real world?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Then Lamar is a dream come sure?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Right?

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Oh my go.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
No they did not, No, they did not, Oh yes
they did.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Okay, Edward mac not only you're not asking stupid Lamar
just on the break was out wondering if he's asking
it is such a treaty, such an innocent.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
News okay, because there might be new listeners being like, oh,
this finale seems interesting, let me watch this.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
So yeah, yeah, because I got a lot of questions,
but also I want to talk about the Mormon thing quick,
just because I grew up Jehoah's Witness said like, that's
like a very I'll tell you. I would say that
religion and Mormon is in the same world in terms
of like new religions.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
People are a little afraid of it.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
My grandparents were a Seventh day adventure.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah, exactly, all three of them all came, all came
cut from the sant cloth.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
And I would be devastated if someone didn't want to
marry me because that came out of that. Even if
I was like, I think, I think you would, I
think she I think she should have a little leeway
for him to see what it would be like before
he was like if he's like.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
To me, it was less the Mormon thing and the
fact that it was just so white, like the fact
that it.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Was like literally every family member there is.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
I think that was like, I think it was just intimidating, emotional,
not even the Mormon thing about it.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
It was very like I gotta be a part of
this world.

Speaker 11 (41:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Your song will have grandkids that or grandparents that are
like the scariest version of human beings to you. Like,
I also think. I also think like it has a
lot to do with her religious beliefs because if she
is someone who's like my parents are Mormon, I guess
I'm culturally more but I'm not. I don't need to
raise a kid to be Mormon. That's different. Like with

(42:04):
my my grandparents, they weren't like, oh, they weren't raising
me in seven days, Like they weren't raising me in
that church. So it wasn't an issue with my parents.
So I'm like, if she's still a Mormon, that is
a problem regardless of her family it's like.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Mormon then yeah, I mean yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
I think you could take well, like I'm like, hell,
I study religion incust, I'm like super religious, like, but
I believe in a lot of shit. Yeah, but my
girls pretty much I would say she's I want to
say she's an atheist, but she's not being down like
I am.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, and it's just like it's just it's two separate things.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, you're just more spiritual and it's not like one
specific thing.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Well, I get I guess down though, I go I
go to church and ship I'll be I'll be doing shit.
I'll be going to that, I would go to the mass,
I'll do all types shit. But it's like the aspect
of like this person having to do that with me
is like they don't have to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
But I don't think it's religion in general. Like you
you are like a person who if you were to
raise a kid with your same beliefs religious wise, like
I wouldn't find a problem with that at all.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
But the second you're like, oh, yeah, one of those
beliefs is that you can have multiple wives or something,
I'll be like, I don't know if I can agree
with that. Well, yeah, So it has a lot to
do with each detail of it. It's not just okay
this people want to really get into it.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
We can get into it. Because I thought I was
curious going back.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
I know this is a finale, but just going back
a little bit, there was a girl who I kind
of liked too a lot.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
She was like kind of a strong woman like he
was with her. Yeah, yeah, she was a lawyer. I
felt like he had some kind of old school yes about.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
She didn't want it was threatened. It's interesting that Letia
said she's she's a venture capital but she's never once
talked about her job ever.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, she doesn't bring it up. She's not like part
of what I am.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Maybe brought up. Yeah, Whereas Litia was like, yeah, I'm
a lawyer, I own a condo.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I want to give you a family.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
I want you to be It was like it was
like everything you want. And I think he was like
because he kept saying I'm not used to a girl
doing that. I would be like, where's that coming from?
Which tradition is that coming.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Her family? And I I could visually fit in like
and that like I am a blonde Nordic. That family
freaked me out, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Like were those her friends or was it her family?

Speaker 1 (44:29):
It was too many people of the Mormons, Like I
could I could have just also been on the crowd
holding a lemonade and like like, yeah, it freaked me out.
I'm like it was like a specific group. It was
really like I could see how that was claustrophobic people.

(44:51):
There's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
How do you really get to know somebody's parents too?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Likes hanging out with the I'm like yeah, I was
just a mistake.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Juliana had more people, but they kind of was like, hey,
I'm aunt.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, it was a party.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
It was it was a party, was at night, and
he was like, oh, I'm back.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
In New York Ish area, you know, like it all.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
It was fun. At the very end. With Lytia, he
was like, I'm the future. She goes, I'm the future,
missus Ellis and I thought, oh my god, they're editing that.
And she's once you say that, you're never the few,
don't say it. And also don't give people a memory
book of like, if you give somebody a journal, you're
never gonna make it so tough. So he's horny for Juliana.
There they are, He's horny for her. They had a

(45:33):
great time of fantasy.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
You can see the shift in his in the way
he's acting with her.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Nuts drained.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah, she shows up with her nose ring in to
meet the family. I felt like it was her first
time we've seen the note we've seen the whole time.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I think we've seen it early early on.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I don't think it was consistently pop the nose ring
in she put on her like sexy milk made outfit
and she is going to meet the fair and so
the dad was. Dad liked what he saw that. He's like,
you gotta pick Italian film makes it.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, now they tell me you can't touch it until.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
That I'd like to touch the phone.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I like touching.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
We can't underestimate, like the family will be more comfortable
hanging out with that Italian family than going to with
these Mormon people.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Like that's a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, she's like. She's like, then the love is like,
have you fallen for Grant?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
She's like, that's a great He didn't even answer.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
The definition of falling in love is.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
She goes, Okay, So I have not told Grant I
love him yet. I've been holding back. I'm not there yet,
but I have a question. I can see myself potentially
in the future finitely a lot with him. I can
see having the feelings love. I'm not quite there yet.
And the mom is like, as your mother, I think.

Speaker 9 (47:07):
Yeah, we've all have been or are currently in love.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
I'm assuming and I you know, I don't remember I've
ever remember like the moment it happens, I guess, but
like not like concretely, especially for past partners, but like,
have you guys ever experienced like at four o'clock, I
don't know if I'm quite there yet, and at six o'clock.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
It's it's no, you don't, because I've tried to tuck
myself into people and you're either somebody either has your
heart or they don't.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
You know it, And even the feeling doesn't change, you
can relax more because you see that, Okay, this is real,
this is happening. They feel the same way like, but
the feeling doesn't change.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
And I know there are moments that you're like, I think, like,
where's a shift can happen? I know that's the thing
or the moment where you are feeling it but not
saying not saying it.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
That's what I guess.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
That's what I assumed she was doing, like basically saying,
because I don't want to say it, because I don't
want to.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Get on this show, you don't do that.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I think it was a good strategy because we pointed
out we pointed out that like for him, he's like
and not to go back to Carolina. I think that
was part of why he was like continuing to put
in work with Carolina was because she was like I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
And he's like, I need you know because yeah, facts, okay,
so yeah, tell me your thoughts on Carolina real quick.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Okay, happened Carolina? I think is actually very interesting. Is
funny when they had to date in Vegas. I was
seeing them hanging out.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I was like, that was cute.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
That looks like two human beings.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Saying she.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Was cute. Dar I'll give you that, But then she's
a fuckingmare to the.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Other women who are threatened. But if you are a
crush collector, this is like you found the Emerald.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
If you're that hot, you don't need to be a
name murder the other women.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
No, I think you just become one. Look, Maria Carolina
cut from the same.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Floor they came in to TV stars.

Speaker 9 (49:11):
Not listen, Carolina, you can come on down back in California.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
If you can record a podcast.

Speaker 9 (49:17):
You know what I'm saying. You can catch me on
an off day.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
But I think, but I think the Juliana of it all,
like hers not saying that she loved like making it
an issue, and then at the end saying, oh I
do love you. It feels like he's accomplished something. It
feels like all these last few days have meant something
for Latia. It's like, all right, we're going through the
motions because we've already gotten there. It just gets boring.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
And that she never said it though either Latia said it.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
She said it, but she said it around the same
time she the Guliana did. They both said it after me.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, yuck, keis what were you about to say? I
saw an inhale.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
I I also think too, like because even though Latia
never said it, you could tell she loves She was
saying all the right thing. Yes, she saying things that
with commitment, and Juliana really wasn't and she was frozen
and but like, which is why I think Grant came

(50:12):
to sit down to talk to her, because he was like,
I want to after having sex with her, and I
want to have fun.

Speaker 9 (50:21):
Like I can't realistically choose you if you don't tell
me you love me.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I just I can't tell it about all the cheating
stuff that she went through that you think it's all
just it's such.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
A common story, especially for people who are that don't
have I hate to say this because this is not
I don't mean this to be mean, but like people
who don't have real trauma in their life. Often go
to my past relationships like that is something that happens
on the show a lot.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
So I'm not like that.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Okay. So the mom says, if she doesn't tell you
she loves you, I am telling you to you to
walk away. And then so she was like, look, so
HERU the dad was like dede questions for me. Her
question was about herself, but she made it about him.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah, the question was I don't like that question.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Her question was was like, we know what you're talking about.
You like, does he know that he can have bad
days and doesn't have to be happy and chipper all
the time. Well, you've already said that you feel like
you have to be like it's.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
It was a weird question.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
It was about you, but it was a weird question.
But I do think it led to a good answer
that was like a real hero.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Of this episode.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Dad just was like, horny, it sounds good to me.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Bad days, but I need you to continue, just like
they both look.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Meanwhile, all these girls, this is crazy to get this.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
They should have them.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
It would be really crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
We taught Joan and Chalk in the audience. Looking Cray
she was a Golden Bachelorette.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I just want to I didn't like her vibe.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
She's scary. She left the Golden Bachelor in the middle
of the show for some weird reason, and then like
they picked her.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
She's clearly still fucked up over her dead husband, who
was a white collar criminal. Money he like laundered money,
and then he was trying to open a teddy bar
with the money. And then and it was like he
was the one that got away, and she would him
in hall was like that lemon tree.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
That isous. That's what happened on her back. He was
like he was trying to.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Open a titty bar. She never said that. She was
like John was so great. John's like this, I see
John in this glass of water trying open that teddy bar.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Was always ended up.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
She's engaged to that guy. His name is Chalk.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
That dude was wack. He seemed like like he looked
like Plato.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
As O C. K.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Chalk like that he's not Chuck, he's Chalk.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
She was a nice dude, but they were born they
were based.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I checked out on that season.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
If somebody who's not a widow or a widower, we
need somebody who got like like my ex husband, fuck
the secretary. I'm pissing horny. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
We had so many better options from Gary season.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yes, pickle Ball, the youngest blonde, Yeah yeah, give me,
give me, give me Susan Jenner, give me Ellen with
the bouncy hair.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
You know, even Princes princess.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Give me horny Sandra, the horniest of all. Sandra was
a ball. Okay, So then we have the dad starts crying.
He was like, I always wanted to to come to you,
and he's like, in spite of everything, he goes, used
to love me. He goes, son, you are a gum yo.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Beautiful, beautiful. It was beautiful love his dad. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
It was really beautiful to see, especially like to like,
you know, the stereotype of the blackmle father and son relationship.
It was incredible and so to see like not only like.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
A bonding moment, but a soft moment. And it was
in the beginning.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
You hear him talk about it and you're like, yeah, like,
I hope, like it's it's I'm like, I wonder how
his dad feels about the way he's talking about it,
like throughout the season, and you like you see that
he's like a different You get to see it, like
I suppose it just like I guess his dad's somatic
or so, but like you get to see the arc
of that and you people can change, and you know,
it was beautiful.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I was proud to also like I did grow up
with addiction, and like it's always such a secret, you know,
and like so many families struggle with it, and like
I think them talking openly and you see that he's
there and he's doing okay like that. There's so many
things that I think so many people have it and
like but that they were openly saying like he struggled,

(54:44):
like he struggled like that. They weren't trying to hide it.
So many films like do you talk about that?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
And they weren't like, oh, he's fully better now. They
weren't doing that.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
The one I was, I will say, this is nice
to see that.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
This scene normally would make me craft, but I was
laughing last night because I was like, it's crazy that
this drain shows where this is happening.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
I know.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
I was like I was literally like I was like, wait,
I supposed to hate this, and then I was like
I'm like it completely this happened.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
His family was beautiful, the mom, the dadsist everybody. This
was like a really they left.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
That specific family.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Good family.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
You get some good families.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
But so then okay, so then so then we cut
to Gary in the audience. That's fucking mug Gary the
old bachelor.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
We don't like Gary.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
What happened?

Speaker 3 (55:31):
He turns out to kind of sucks.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
He lied a little bit about not having anyone since
his wife died.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
And I was like, this is what we all bring
out to give advice.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
He kind of was we all fell for Gary.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
He just gave the same advice as as as our girl,
because you know, I just said that, Gary.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
I just said that.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
So then she goes. So then so then they're outside.
He's like about with Julianne. He's like, I got butter flies,
and he's like, I have fun with you, and he goes,
I do love you, and she goes, I can feel.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
That I love Juliana. Like it wasn't like that was
the way she was talking wrote it out.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
They become they become so measured and like, honestly, like
debate stage, you at this part of the game where
it's like I understand that what you just said, and I.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
He said, I see a future with you.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
There's so many things around because I'm just like, if
you watch this show so much, you start to see
them say the same stuff.

Speaker 9 (56:38):
But I guarantee you if you watch next season, you
will be like you, oh.

Speaker 11 (56:42):
That's.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Genuine our girl. With Tea, it was like pick me,
pick me, gine that, pick me, pick me. But Guliana
was like, I can.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
See that makes it.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
I guess I was just doing maybe too much empathy
where I was like, oh, but she's going with the
cheating and stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
So she was talking herself into she herself into it.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I kind of think this is just coming to me now,
But I'm like Juliana, I think it's coming from a
place of like I need to like get acceptance from
this person, because I maybe don't feel like like it's
it's to validate how she wants to feel. Where I
think Latilla thinks she's so fire that at a certain
point she was like just pick me.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
That's why she was so surprised, Like Latia.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yeah, Latia is secure and knows how much about not
unless he likes me, then I'll do it. Juliana probably
is probably self assured to a certain extent, but not
as much as Latia.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
She gets locked in. She gets locked in.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And the thing.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
The thing too is like Juliana's fine. Like, I don't
have a problem with Juliana. She's very attractive, she seems
very nice, family is fun. Nothing's wrong with Julia. It's
more that is more the grant of the equation that
makes it, that makes you know.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
It was definitely like what the fuck? But let me
ask you this because I can't tell if I'm watching
it correctly. All right, So like these letters know the
way the way they like it happened, it was like
it I guess what I'm going to ask. If it
was the other way around, would people be like a
sad way like if Julian.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
And I think people would know.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I think people would still be mad that he basically
made her say I love you and then set it back.
I think he just he was screwed either way.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
He sup, But I think.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I think they were.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I think they would have been less mad if it
was reversed because they would have made Juliana the bachelorette.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Yeah yeah, I know, I know we're gonna get this today.
But also so we'll talk more in but a certain point,
bru when when she's talking, cut her off.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Don't let her say all that it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
At the end at the end, and I start your
I've always seen.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
The kissing all of that, don't do that. Yeah, okay,
So then at the very end, we'll take a break
in a second. At the very end, they're like, I
love you. I love you too. We're in love with
each other. Doctor Bannana KT money. You guys get the
last the last words on the Juliana date.

Speaker 6 (59:35):
Yeah, I the Julia. Here's the thing. I think that
they were just I don't know. In my mind, I'm
like Juliana.

Speaker 8 (59:45):
Was the right person for him, Like they were both
on some weird ship talking about wolf pack.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Like I think like.

Speaker 8 (59:54):
The end, in the end of the EPSOD, I was like,
Lytia can do so much better, Like she'll be fine.
Let let Juliana and and Grant moved to Boston together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
That I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
He said that.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
Latina was also like, I hope she knows who she getting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
She put a hex on that, I did you.

Speaker 11 (01:00:19):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
I was actually the audience was like like, yeah, she's
getting hell of hate online though, because she is. Yeah, really.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Care.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
I was proud of her.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
She said what we all wished we would say when
somebody breaks up with us.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Yes, yeah, it was a breakup, so I get it.
But also it was like it just felt like damn,
like I don't understand. I mean maybe I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Well, yeah, okay, KT money any final things on the Juliana.

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
I mean yeah, I guess they're like like and I said,
like he chose who was right for him. He just
should not have said that he loved them and neither
of them, Like, just they should really make that illegal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Yeah, yeah, we're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Oh I need a sexual time out and we're back.
So then we see Charity Clay Tour and Gary are
up on the stea.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
This could have been fully cut this whole worse Gary.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Gary was like so full of ship. It was like
I should have listened to my heart. It's like, bitch,
you listen. He got greedy because he figured out that
Teresa was rich and so he picked this show's already
three hours. Why of the fuck, why do we need this?

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yeah, it's the Bachelor's family ship.

Speaker 7 (01:01:44):
Mom talk all that It's like literally like it was
probably twenty five to thirty minutes of just bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
That was pray, Yeah, that it was boring. Who is
the middle guy in the middle?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
So Thatay, he's the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
He marry anybody. He's Later, I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Forget what happened. Remember he's it was he said I
love you to Gabby and Rachel and then that the
woman who won, Susie Susie, and then they like they
released like a choking video. There was you released like
a sexy choking video.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah he was choking.

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
Yeah, he was like choking all up on TikTok doing
the stupidest ship I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Okay, so then okay, see we're back. We're back, and
there is zoea a tree and he's like, my my
emotional connection continues to grow with Juliana. So then there
is zoe a tree and uh the night and Julianna
is guarding her heart.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
I will say, I do think maybe like she had
just been super guarded that whole time, and that's why
she didn't say it, because she was afraid of That's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
What I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
It felt like, I mean, I'm not saying it's right,
but it felt because I've been in this situation where
like they don't know how you feel and so they're
not telling you, but they I buy it that she
felt it before, but it was just scared very.

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
They're in there and they've talked to each other for
twenty four hours total. Maybe if they're yeah, less less
less time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
So there's all these other women there dating.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
So they're like, they're like, you know, Juliana, you are special.
Are you ready if I say ask you or will
you break my heart? Because that's a good question, is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
A really good question question. First, I would like to
thank our sponsors.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Yeah, she said, She goes. She said she didn't say Yees,
she goes, I will do my best to handle your
heart with care. Right, No, you want to you want
to hear yes, I'll say yes, I want to marry you.
I will do my best to handle your heart with care. Yeah,
she goes, I've reason loud.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
Lot of like you're saying this normal behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Meanwhile, Letia gets a horse date in the pouring round.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
How many times have they ridden horses?

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yes, season, she loves the horse. They must have found
out that they didn't find it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
They must have found out that they can both ride
without like a guide, and they're like, get them in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
And she's not fun. She's not fun. She didn't like ziplining.
She likes horses. It's the only thing she'll do that's
kind of fun. She was like, I don't like activities, like, okay,
well that's not fun. I love activity. Give me out
a fucking zipline, Dude, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Want to zip line something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
That I get a TV. Okay. So then he goes,
I love Lytia, I love Lytia, and she's like, I
love this date horses each ocean, I see my dad.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
And your okay whatever, there's no chemistry here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
I pisces, so I have sea water. But we're looking
to Canada, cana and and she's like, you know, he
is freaked out by her family. She's like she She's like,
I just want to know there's no pressure for a timeline.
I do have a question. But seriously, you said kids
in two years is tears, which it's three or four.

(01:05:05):
She's like, well, I would want to know your reasoning,
and I would want if it was used growing at
a man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So I'll say this, I think you're right, Lamar, Like
in this date, it was like, WHOA, doesn't look like
they're talking that much. In my opinion, it's because he's like,
how do I break up with this one?

Speaker 8 (01:05:17):
Great?

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I can't. And I think he gets to this point
and he's like, we got to talk about timeline, and
he's hoping it will end. And this is where I
think that Latia's performance in this moment is quite possibly
one of the It's like Jordan in the Flu game,
just hitt and shot after shot. She basically came out
there and said he was like, what if in two years?
I want to wait a year? She goes, of course

(01:05:39):
if you you want to be a really attentive father,
So if you want that, I will give that to you.
She said that, and then she was like I want
to not only that, I know this whole thing is
such a burden. I want to take some of the pressure.
I'm watching him go like, oh shit, I fucked up,
Like I gotta break this room's heart. And then when
she with the big beautiful smile, says take me, he

(01:06:01):
was fucked and then he was like, I love you,
Come here, kiss me. Like he was like in that moment,
he was like, maybe I do have to marry her.
Because that was one of the greatest performances. She said.
She said every answer perfectly knowing what, knowing what he
needed to hear, and she crushed.

Speaker 10 (01:06:19):
Him with.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
I Yeah, that's the thing too, because I'm like, throughout
this entire process, i mean like Grant feels like mature
and blah blah blah. And then what I've been seeing
over the past couple episodes, especially in this one, is
when he was actually hit with maturity, which is what
those answers were. That is how a mature adult answers
those answers. And he is trying to do his game

(01:06:45):
ship that has worked with every other woman in his life,
and it wasn't working for her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I want to bring you back to an early moment
in the season when he said to I don't know
who it was, but remember when he said the thing
where it's like you nobody ever tells.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
You no it was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
It was to La and she called his on it
many people. He liked that, and he liked it, and
he tried to pretend he wasn't that guy. And I
saw that and I was like, he's a game player. Yeah,
I knew, he said, dude, I was me.

Speaker 9 (01:07:16):
You were on that episode was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Saying was sucking him out as she forgot about it,
and then she was hit with it at the end.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
And interesting take Fellas, Yes, interesting take Fellows.

Speaker 6 (01:07:30):
I mean you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
You got to do your homework.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Brother, You're right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
I do mean way, he's definitely like he's got game,
he's got all he's But I'm like, that's why the
show was good, because that's who you want to see
get married, right, and want to see that person interested
in love.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
And they.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Be like, let me get mad, and I will give
you a million dollars if they make it down the aisle.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
They are not going to make it. I still stand by,
like the right one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
They're going to get married so many years oad of
doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
I'm like, no, they're gonna get married.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
But I'm a fool. I'm a fool. I thought I
got that dipship Jen's guy. I was shocked that he sucks. Yeah,
let me he got us both, Devin Jerry knew. I
didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I haven't got fool that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
I'm like, no, they're going to get married. But since
she goes, she goes.

Speaker 6 (01:08:25):
I want you to know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
I want to share the pain with you. You are
enough you are so much more than enough.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Let me marry her.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I want to marry her too. She goes, I love you,
and I haven't. I really want to reiterate that I
have not said I it's the perfect performance. I'm not
said I love you because because I will. I knew
that I will lose it if I say to somebody
out loud, I'll lose the love. I loved you way
before I told you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Oh, she was just crushing them with all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
She goes, now I say it, I'm not even scared
about the rest of the time. I am not scared.
This is the book. And he goes, you're hard, the
most special thing about you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
And she goes picking me brutal, both endearing and cute
and kind of desperate.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
And he was like and she's like, she goes, you know,
and then the dad is like, then I knew. At
this point, Lettia lost. Grant is freaking out. He's in
He's in his like sandals suite by himself. He's like, ship,
I'm all alone. I can't talk to the gals about it.
Knock knock not. Dad stayed behind the tr.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
More tears get to dry.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
The tear jerker came back He's like, I stayed for
your son, killing it. The dad should be the Golden Bachelor.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
The king would be great. That to somebody was some
real damn like there's too much alcohol in the house.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Though I wrote down, Dad is horny for Juliana, my son.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
I need to be living through you for a little
And he said, come on up here and take a
shower in the bathroom, and if you take, if you
take Latia, you got to give me Juliana's number.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Pro Then he said to that, he said, he goes,
he is great, but Juliana is more fun.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
That was it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
I couldn't believe when he said that. I'm mad I
didn't catch it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Can I just heard it? But I was just like,
can I just say this too? Could you imagine being
both Litia and Juliana hearing that phrase, because if you're Juliana,
you're like, I'm more fun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
It's off, that's what he was saying. And she's not Mormon.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yeah, more fun.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
But the only reason I think it wasn't offensive to
her is because I feel like she was on the
same dance.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
She was like, stayed for a year and then.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I don't say I actually don't think she's that calculated.
I do think she's a nice No. She also had
addiction in her family that was lately tired, and I
can like, I think a mom.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Didn't bring it up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
He didn't tell her, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
So like they've been through some ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
He goes, somebody's gonna be hurt. And then he goes
he goes, son, you're a good catch. That was a
good one him a gem and a good catch.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
The dad really came through for all dads.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
So I was like, I need to call back, all right, dad,
you know you have TV now. It was like a
thorough He's like, man, this guy's like all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Right that he was almost like Gabby's grandpa.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Oh yeah, well they got to keep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Wheeling him out. He's gonna be like Gabby's grandpather. That
was okay. So then here we are. It's game day.
It's pouring Juliana, it's pouring rain. She's in her skims,
nudes set like the skims like the short shorts and
the robe and the brallet, and then she's got her
nose ring on. There's Neil's Neil Lane shows up looking refreshed.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Is that normal thing?

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Yes, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Be having a lot of work done. He had a
new face. Literally it used to be the corpse of
Neil Lanka wheeled out. But I gotta say the substance worked.
His injection of smart look good.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
We got to pour one out for Neil Lane's old face.
He is so good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Give me the nose and what you did, honey, I
gotta be fresh for filming this summer. You know what,
whoever his doctor is or whatever filter he uses, incredible work.
So Nylane looking tight shows up. He's like, here's an
numbered coot, here's a roundcot. It's like Emerald.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
It is so then.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Another part where I'm like I don't need to see that,
ye see why this is interesting?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
But whatever I mean, that one's always there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah, it's just an advert. So then here we go. Basically,
you need to know that they have to stay married
for two years to keep or engage for two years
to keep the ring, because they're like eighty thousand dollars
race to other businesses. Got to stay together for two
years to keep the ring. So Litilla is first, and
the tightest dress the corset in the.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Bottom, and she was like it was the most uncomfortable
wall I've ever seen a.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Woman especial course a little waist and her just are tied.
The ankle opening was so tight.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
It was what would why?

Speaker 6 (01:13:01):
I think?

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I think the fact that we know she's about to
get broken up and makes it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
She's like walk into her.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
And the corset is so tight. It's like she looked
like a Barbie doll or something. And she looked she
looked great. She she looked great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
She looked great in the reunion as well, herms in
her eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
She sing her again, did not have somebody walk with her.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
It was so cool because she could have fallen and
not gotten back up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Slitter across the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
The let her give the longest. Maybe they kept kissing
the long.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
I kept saying, like, stop kissing her, stop kissing, stop kissing,
and stop letting her especially what she said. And then
not only that great great good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
She's like, I want to give you a family, God,
I want to I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Speech first, and then Grant starts his speech with some
like I love you, day one, I love you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
And I was like, stop saying, it could have been
way better.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I am not your person, and she literally looked like
she was blacking out, like her eyes I've been there
when you get I like I've gotten you get blindsided.
I've gotten news in my life that was so shocking
that I fainted and so so she looked like she
was going but she's also in a corset. Her eyes

(01:14:35):
like fluttered in a way. I was like, oh, she
got hit with a lot of chemicals.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
In But as much as she looked disoriented in that moment,
but then her eyes she carried herself in such a
like composed way. And I gotta say this, because you
were saying this earlier Ana or not an Katie, that
people are mad and say that she was too mean.
I want to point you, guys to Gabby Tweeks exact
same thing. And why what's the difference here in this

(01:15:04):
situation where Latia is all all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Mean is it? Wait? Woman?

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
Wait?

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
What is what did I say? Talking about the part.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Where she's like, I see you differently and read you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
What I'm going to read you? What she said? She
looked pissed, and I was I was so me too.
I was so proud of her, and her eyes changed
and she she was so composed.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
What did she she was like, come on, she goes
She goes, well, you learn how to do that. I'm
gonna tell my boy that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
She goes. She goes, when did it change?

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
He's like, what.

Speaker 6 (01:15:48):
Question?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
She goes, when did it change? She goes, She goes.
She goes, I don't want to see me differently. She goes,
come on, grant, She.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Goes a bachelor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
She goes, I do I do for sure? See you differently?
Come on? She goes, come on man, she goes. She goes,
She goes, She goes, I was all about you. She goes,
come on, now incredible. She goes, I think I got
my answers.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
She goes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah, She goes, you're different than I thought.

Speaker 11 (01:16:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
She goes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
She goes, wouldn't you come on?

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Ik? She got mad when he said that. Don't look
at me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
She goes. If I were, She goes, if I were
Juliana watching this, I would have a lot. She goes sure. Yeah.
He goes. She goes, you think I've been missleading? She goes,
grand come on, she goes, because for me, the switch
up is crazy. I am so disappointed. I just wanted

(01:16:55):
to be clear. I am confused, and I am sad,
and I am this was incredible that she gets in
the car, she goes, okay, she puts her seatbelt on.
She goes, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I was impressed she was able to sit in the car.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
She sat down. She watched him looking like a little
boy driving. She put her seat belt on. She goes,
what a surprise. How disappointing. He loved me, but he
picked someone else. Okay, now Flora is open. If I
loved it this call she was an assassin.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
I loved it if we were able to play this
man's music when a woman's fed up would have played
over there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Because this is the like when with the switch I
loved it because he he decerves to forget. He sang
the song party girl.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
First, I thought you were saying his music, No, we
got music.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
I was like, if they if there was a song
that you could play that was perfectly for like how
she hit him with that switch up, which was because
she like it was. It is kind of like I
don't know if anybody's had this moment, but when when
something happens and like everything melts away and you see

(01:18:15):
the person actually you saw we saw that in real.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
I also think the show melts away like her the
way she was talking before it was like, I love
all this vocal fry, and then all of a sudden
he was like, not picking, like.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
It was really.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
She's talking about she's talking about his switch up. I'm
watching her.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
I was like, this whole obviously we know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
That's happening, but I did like the realness coming out.
And I think that really hurt him in those moments,
and he was defensive and he had to stop himself
from being defensive because she was giving.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
It to I don't want to say anyone that also
came at her. To me, the fact I will think
of her in the future when I'm angry, because I
don't even I usually just watch. It takes me a
couple of days. The fact that she was poisonof in
the moment because some people could have yelled her. She
was calm. I want to be clear, rounded noise because

(01:19:17):
as a person with this vocal quality, I've learned, particularly
with guys, they can't hear me when I like, I
have to be calm like so there was nothing frazzled.
She was eloquent.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
What you are watching is black women have to be
a certain way to not be considered angry, angry or whatever,
and like, ye see God forbid, you see that with
all the women of color on this show and say,
and in this moment where she had all the right
to be a yes, she wouldn't let herself get that
way because she knew what the reaction was and they

(01:19:50):
still and she held his ass to fucking.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Like how she reacted, dude, you agreed seriously and even
like the moment where like Charity was like no and
was like I feel you, sister, like it was you
know what else was great.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
I can't believe people are she loved.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Juliana never said a bad word about was never mean
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
I mean, he's like, good luck because she deserves to me,
she deserves love. And if I were Juliana, I would
want a man that woke up and knew he was
picking me that morning.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
There's no way you can watch that as Juliana and
be like this is perfect. It's like as soon as
he made it so hard of a decision, you ruined
it for both, Like you need to walk away, want
to be picked.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
You're gonna think about that in the back of your head.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
No, I shocked, especially when you hear yeah, she's more fun.
When you hear that, I'm like she's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
A good time.

Speaker 7 (01:20:52):
If people online were like because she had a switch,
they were like, oh, she's been fake the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
But I will say there's a ton of people.

Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
Online no having her like protect she have her back,
that are like no, dude, she should have blew up
at and being also like pointing out he did not deny,
like you know, she says that he says something that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
We can't see, so then denying that. So then her
rug got pulled out. They bring her out and she's like,
you know, I I I thought it was gonna be us.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
You know, since the first date, he's been saying it's
gonna be them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
She goes saying a different tamline. But there's reassurance promises.
He said to me, I know it's you. He raised
the stakes. Every time I would pull away or want
to leave, I pumped the brakes, he would push the gas.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
He said, you went out of bounds, which to me
is one of those things where it's like between moments
or like moments that feel less like you're on the
show where it's like, hey girl, honestly like it's gonna
be you, which I feel like happens probably, but like
you don't then not pick that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Yeah that mom and said let's stop the show. I
found my person, he said to them he.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Saw some of the FaceTime, but we didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
I mean, so he was a love bomber.

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Weird thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
I think it's deeper than love bombing.

Speaker 5 (01:22:14):
But love bombing, I mean, it is love bombing in
the in his like definition of it, but like he
did it a step further beyond like love bombing, where.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
He basically was lying to her, like he was lying
to her in a way.

Speaker 9 (01:22:31):
And what I mean, but I know you like the.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Show set up is like you gotta love blah blah
blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
But like he basically was telling her like it is you,
it is you, it is you, writ in checks that
he knew he wasn't gonna cash and and he was
doing And it's very telling. And the reason I'm saying
he was lying to her is because of what she
said she was like every time I would push away,

(01:22:57):
he would push forward.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
So like you guys do that.

Speaker 9 (01:23:00):
That is a person that is only keeping you around
for their own benefit.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Yeah, and that tells me the kind of guy he.
I mean, he just says like he has some issues
in terms of he goes he needs you, he can't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Yeah, he gave me the journal in Madrid, write down
my feelings. You never let up. You said, I want
to get engaged tomorrow. And then and then he said,
I know what I want. We're going to get engaged.
I want to. I know I love you. I love you.
I love you is the last thing I said the
night before.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
And then when you go back and wash Latia, she
seems extremely confident the entire sh and it's because he's
telling her all this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
And to say it off camera, that's what I mean.

Speaker 9 (01:23:39):
So he makes sure you're not said, that's calculated.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
So then he comes out and he was like, I
did Why would.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
He do that? I mean, so I don't understand why
what he's thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
He comes out, he was like, I did love you
very much. I just apologized for the hurt feelings. I'm
truly sorry. I went with my heart. I loved you.
I really did. I read speaking early, I spoke too soon,
And she goes, yeah, but you didn't let up speaking early.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Now hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
She was just so good at holdings like she's like,
she's like, you know, I'm excited for oh, oh, this
was the best I'm going to think of her in
the future if my feelings get hurt. She she didn't
stand up to hug him when he came out, and
then she also goes she goes any final word, she goes, yeah,
I'm just excited that this is the last time that

(01:24:28):
I have to talk to you about this, and that
I want to be a woman to deserve a man
who knows without a doubt that the morning he wants
to marry me, that I am the one. Go balk yourself, beautiful,
beautiful doctor Banana, let's hear your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (01:24:45):
I thought it was great. I thought she had she
had a good uh good exit, excellent. I okay, really quickly,
I want to say when he like was like, I've
made my decision.

Speaker 6 (01:24:57):
My father gave me great advice. He said follow your heart.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
And I was like, wow, what that's huge advice.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
You needed your dad to.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
Tell you that. Yeah, that's the moment I completely turned
on him. I was like, oh, this fucking idiot.

Speaker 5 (01:25:12):
Yeah, because it because because the thing he wasn't struggling
with the decision of wanted to pick.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
He was struggling with who he had to break up
who he had to.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Break up with, and how it was going to make
him look on national That's what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Saying, you should have just brought. He should have just
brought Zoe. Want to be like, I could break up
with Zoe. Anybody could give. I never had a one
on one with Zoe.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
I don't know her.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
I do think there was a primal wound in him
where his mom was cold because she was working hard.
That did want mommy Litilla, but then like, and then
he got to fuck Juliana and like, that's not as fun,
it's just going with mom.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I'll be honest too. There was a moment where I
was watching this where he was talking about it, and
this is me buying into him saying he was in
love with them. I was like, does he want to
be polyamoral?

Speaker 7 (01:25:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Does he want to date both of these women? Because
I could him getting something from those relationships?

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
He would have been cute together.

Speaker 10 (01:26:06):
I ta, and oh, yeah, Lean is who I would
who I would have expected easy for I picked most
other bachelors in their twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
That's not easy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
But the mat was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Yes, let's not forget how Matt James season ended. He
did not picked Michelle who was maybe the Lata, and
he went with the girl who happened to be kind
of racist, like who also had that like Kardashian.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
He look, it was just it was together.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
They just broke up. They just broke up a lot.
So then here she comes. Here it comes to Uliana,
who's adorable. I like her dressable, her makeup. She had
like the contra white stripe down.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
A few more minutes of because the lady.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Is like, h d I've walked. I've walked out of
my house and like the lighting and like a hotel back.
I've literally been in the car and like looked at
my blush and been like, I look like a marionette.
You know, it's like two circles or like I don't
quite see.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Do they not do their makeup for these final moments?

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
I think they would. They must make I've also been
burned by a makeup.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Artist, especially with the like rain and stuff happening. I
was like, I'm surprised they looked so good in.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
General, it might be different in the bathroom and then
they're out so like somebody put like glow powder on
the nose. I was like, oh, pour, that's I've been burned.
I've burned myself and I've been burned. Okay, So then
and she's like they got engaged and she's like it's
all the things at the end, and they got engaged,
and she's like, you're my man, like love is a choice,

(01:27:40):
and she's me and I'm gonna choose him. Every day
we'll pack or dye.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
And then she comes out with corn. Wait.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
I don't understand though I clarify something. I'm like like,
I'm getting the show. But I mean to me, I'm like, great,
he's found somewhat. I feel like god happy and I think, look,
I think we got to agree. I like, don't let
me just for at the audience. I want everyone to
know that Latilla was someone I was rooming for. Said
they want me to the idea that to me, it's

(01:28:12):
exactly what doctor the doctor the good. It's like, if
he's not into her, he shouldn't be with her.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
No, I shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
You're right, you're right, right, the right person. He picked
the right person.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
You know this is a fresh face. I asked you.
I was sincerely happy for them when they came out.
I was like, they actually felt really cute, and I'm
naive enough that I think that I want them to
get married, and they.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Seem happy together and was so lame. That made me
think that they're going to have such a fun time
in Italy. They're gonna have a great time in Italy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Then after that, I feel like they might be am
I naive to think that they could get married.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
And do you really think Grant wants to be like
married and settled down?

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
I do because of his family wound.

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
I do.

Speaker 7 (01:28:57):
But it's so he That's the thing that could use
me the most about him is like he's like, I
want I want a family, I want kids, And then
when he meets someone who goes, yeah, let's have kids,
he goes, whoa, whoa what.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I will say this, there's a lot of the male leads.
It's a hard thing for the male leads. When you
get your own harem, you know what I mean. And
then now and now in the age of Instagram, like
like anybody can access you so you can have a
I mean, he's a hot kind guy that the amount
of women that can slide into the DMS, even a

(01:29:30):
really good guy, I think it's hard to resist the
siren call of other women. Every woman on earth.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Yeah, and maybe more women who are more suited towards
you because they like there's natural selection.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
I do think that he and Julianna were pretty cute
when they came out, and like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
They look good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
They seemed happy. She seems sincerely cool with the fact
that she's like I wanted him to go through the process.
I was like, like, I wish them well, and I hope,
I do hope that I was happy for them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
I think that doctor Anna's point.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
He did like Lytia. I like I liked Latia, and
so I felt I felt bad for her, but I
was pretty happy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I think he picked the right person for him, but
he was pretending to be someone else before, and we
were kind of like, maybe he is this person.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
I really felt like they were. I'm so naive that
I'm I don't watch this cynically, and I really thought
I really I really thought, naively, Oh my god, like
here's a guy that's gonna pick this woman who's kind
and like wants to have a family. Like I really
thought they were. I really thought he loved her and

(01:30:39):
I and I do think she loved him. And I
actually thought, well, this is actually a well, this this
actually worked. This season, like he found this kind woman
that just wants to have a family with him, and
like it's what he's been looking for. And like we've
seen season after season where people get scared of when
you have the perfect thing, like what's right for you.
People never pick what they say they want. They always

(01:31:01):
pick like the other.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
Yeah, and I think that's I think that's the thing
to your point, Lamar, where you're like, he found it.
The purpose of the show is finding love, and he
found love, so shouldn't we be happy? And sure, but
also the purpose of the show is finding the right love.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
Yeah, in his head was like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
I should love Letia and that's what he was struggling with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Yeah, and he did for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
And I'm not convinced himself.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
And I know the question, and that the question is
like who are we to decide what's the right love?

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Yes, I agree, but I don't know that, nigga, But
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
But also, like the show has been on, like I've
been watching it for a few years. You guysn't been
watching it. The show has been on for almost twenty years.
Like you can start to be like, bruh.

Speaker 9 (01:31:42):
You this is not gonna end. Well, yeah, yeah, you
can feel it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
It's hard because I will say, like again, I don't
watch this cynically and I am rooting for everybody on it,
and I will it is an illuminating thing. Even as
a person dating on Earth. It's like you see the
person that is like everything they say they want and
they're perfect and the family always and they never picked that,
and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Like, that's the case. That's why.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
Maybe that's why these shows work so well, because we're
it's like we're seeing our flaws on display. It's it's
the same thing on the other ones, the Netflix ones.
Yeah yeah, but you know, so it's definitely like but
it's I think it's also the process that they're going through.
They're like maybe if he had more time, he would
be like okay, but now that he's like, shit, I

(01:32:27):
gotta do it right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Now before like I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:32:34):
There's there's another element to this too that like I
hesitate to bring up, but like it also bothers just
a small part of me that Grant has in front
of him, this capable, strong, put together, mature, beautiful.

Speaker 9 (01:32:57):
Black woman, and and the white girl is more fun.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
So that's who we choose. Yeah, there's something about that rubs.

Speaker 9 (01:33:06):
Me the wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Well, only.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
The only thing I would say is if you add
in the family, Latia is whiter than Julia.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Ultimately the equation is a little different.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
But you know what, though, Lamark, it's funny what you
were talking about with more time is that I think
you might like Paradise more. I think it's a more
fun show. And they at the end have the option
of like should we just leave here and keep dating,
should we get engaged? Should we not? So more it
looks seems more real in those situations, and I'm like,
if Grant had met Latia in Paradise, I wonder what

(01:33:46):
it would have been like.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
They should like the last two and they can any time,
like a week straight with them really boom as much
anymore because they're self conscious.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
They do secretly or something.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
They used to do more now because they're all like
so aware of their image. They don't do camera in
there anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
You women that I was like, he could be with
this girl or so Sarah Fina.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Sarah, I thought Seraphia was back.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
No, No, Well, I did love Chloe. They love Alex Chloe.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I love Alex Alex.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
All these girls, I think it's Carolina. Let's not be crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
This girl needs to come back justice for Kelsey. In
the Little Basketball she gets cut in.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
The first so cute a couple of girls. I got
cut roads too. They did me in the Fantasy Suite.

Speaker 7 (01:34:36):
Yeah, like literally, like when he gets down the lots too,
he should get like a week.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
That was like my biggest takeaway.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
I was shocked for some reason when the reason I
didn't watch the show because it just felt like long
to me, like a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
This was not how fast it was going. I was like, dang,
he's already they get engaged.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
They've literally spent it fast.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
So that's different.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
They change it's short. It's short. They've been shorter the
past because they've added they've added golden in so like, okay,
so they also so they bring Zoe out in her
cute bob. She's gorgeous, but she's still such a drip.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
She is really drippy and such a drip.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
And then they bring out they bring Gary and Leslie
and they announce it's gonna be all ages of Paradise.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
I think we were calling for this. I think that
this is going to be an incredible summer of TV.

Speaker 9 (01:35:24):
It's gonna be so you think we're gonna get some
some some people.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Hooking up with the older people.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
Baby girl moment.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Right now, I'm predicting at least one intergenerational kiss.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Ye, it's gonna be an old older gallery.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
I think it's gonna be an older gal kissing a
younger man baby girl moan.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
And it might be, it might be creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
It might be.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
It'll be like Leslie who was in a prince exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
I think it might be like the fun pool Dare
you to make out kind of situation, or but I
would love to see a like, hey, what if I
gave you a rose that like we did sleep?

Speaker 11 (01:36:02):
You know, like.

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Although if one of these like fifty five sixty year
olds hit one of these like you know, thirty thirty
five year old cares and then like the other thirty
year old man and then the sixty five year olds
like baby, let me show you a real dig du.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
If we can get a real if we get a
real dick situation this summer, you know they're going to
make what do you think past Gala is gonna be there?

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
That's the one we were taking. He's the one will
be first sand if Jonathan's single again, past Jonathan will
be there? Are they gonna make the golden Oh? People
stay at that foot? Who was filled with no A
c and rickety?

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Who is the guy from Chicago that Leslie was diating
with the Big Day? I forget his name, but he
was hot? What was his name with the Big Jack? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
I remember?

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
He was boring and sweet. It's something that j he was.

Speaker 6 (01:36:58):
I loved him.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
He was Jordans, George Jordans.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
It's gonna be, It's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
I can't wait for half the cast to go to
bed at eight thirty. I like quietly, he was like, Zoe,
what do you think of the old thing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
And she's like, oh yeah, she looks like oh, I
just agreed to this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
Honestly, if Zoe ended up dating like a sixty year
old man, I wouldn't. I don't think that's crazy. I
think it was like I could see Zoe dating an
older confidence a new Bacelona has not been picked.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
No, they're not doing when this season.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
It's not coming back because they're doing because they with
gold and it takes up they all you could do the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Season terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
They fucked over Jen okay, and they put it with
two men.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
They need they need to take the stank off.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Yeah, what happened was training orders?

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Yeah, this is the first Asian lead.

Speaker 9 (01:37:56):
Really fucked her, gave her short season and bad eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Do we have anyone from this cast we think could
be a Bachelorette? If the adorable I think Carolina and
Maria have to be at the beach or I will
not they have to be a bachelor. I'm like Dina
could be interesting, it's funny. I like Chloe, but I
don't know if they would.

Speaker 6 (01:38:20):
Ever do it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Zoe, I've never We've never had a redhead as a league,
a redhead even make it to Final four. I don't,
as a childhood ginger root for the red has it's inappropriate.
Agreed to agree, Okay, Okay, So we're going to pick
our review of the week. Okay, I'm going to read

(01:38:44):
three reviews. We got so many great reviews this year.
We really appreciate that you guys like showed up and reviewed.
It was awesome. Here's a five star review from uh
Best Start Enumeration, The Most Shocking I got my most
Shocking road ceremony okay, my favorite podcast. Every week I

(01:39:06):
look forward to hearing Arden, Katie and Doctor Branana discuss
this stupid show with a roster of other hilarious actors
and comedians. They treat the Bachelor universe with a healthy
balance of humor and humanity. But the POD's true strength
is Ardne's talent for bringing in the funniest and most
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so I'll just say that I found some sympathy for

(01:39:28):
Ben Higgins because I am simultaneously in love with Jerry Trainor, Jack, Keith, Neil, Jim, Jeffries,
Sean Diston, Rob Benedict and Rob Benedict's mom. Oh, and
also Garris Riddles and Kyle Done again.

Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Please don't blacklist Kyle just because he doesn't actually watch
the episode. He's there to talk about anyway. I love
the pod Things for making it so that there's an
upside to my crippling Bachelor addiction. That's really that's a
diehard fan. I was just thinking the other day that
I missed Kyle. I know, I was watching car He's
also in New York now he moved. He moved to Brooklyn. Okay,

(01:40:07):
here's another five star review from Lee Nivia best production
team in podcasting. I can't believe it took us this
long to get to Anna Rosney. That's a nice, simple one.
I love it. And here's the final one five stars.
The main reason I'm still watching from Josh the Librarian.
I started watching The Bachelor because I was trying to

(01:40:28):
find a show I thought my mom might enjoy when
she had to take care of me for three weeks
after I had emergency surgery. The first thing I made
her watch was Megan, Will you accept this? Rose is
the reason I keep watching. I love ardent energy and
the way that she engages all of her guests, and
doctor Banana and Katie Levine are both first class. Josh
the Library and forty three, I do love Librarian. I

(01:40:48):
do love a library, and well, I feel like, what
do you think, Katie? Who's your number? One? I think
the first one, because because I that's it, that's it,
that is literally and the person that feels like they
ca that they literally cannot like uh, that they can't
even decide. You're just stuck. Yeah, you just get stuck,

(01:41:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Okay, now we're going to see that Lama on the
beach by the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Way, dude, you know Linda the Lama, the no drama Lama. Okay,
there were a lot of funny ones today, Doctor Banana.

Speaker 6 (01:42:12):
There were so many people. A lot of people came
out to tweet for the finale, and there was.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
A lot So we're gonna narrow it down to two.
I'll probably say, like nine, we're gonna arrow it down
to two and then we're gonna pick and then we're
gonna pick the winner. There was a lot of funny ones. Okay,
here we go, all right, here we go. This is
from Okay. The first one is from Laura lysiac Grand.
There is a chance I would say, Juliana, I love you,

(01:42:40):
and you would be like, I like your shirt, Juliana.
That's the last thing I would say. That shirt was
fucking crazy. That shirt shirt. It was kind of cute,
but it was crazy. Okay, Yeah, the shirt just made
me laugh. Uh, okay, Okay, here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:43:01):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
This is from uh Leonard Brown. This episode marks the
first time ABC has issued a trigger warning for daddy issues.
Grant is dad demonstrating non toxic masculinity has me wine
texting my therapist.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
I did watch those scenes and going like, damn, I.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Call my dad. This is from Rebecca Feenie. Not a
fan of this fuzzy starfish with butthole shirt designed Grant
has made into his personality for these same day family meetings.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
He's taking a little risk.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
Okay, this is from Rebecca Feenie. Do you think Jesse
fell asleep after sports time with his bestie Grant or
just went ham on some self.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Tanner Hell, I was like going to see a clip
from Paradise.

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
That.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Okay, this is from Hattie Hines. Gary. This is from
Gary the Older Bachelor. I didn't think it was possible
to be in love with more than one woman. That's
why you have to find out how much money they have.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Wow, I could hear his little Kermit the frog ass say.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Okay. This is from Rebecca Feeney. Can't wait to see
how the ageled question of morma versus maga turns out.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Oh god, okay, I do wish there was just one
time where they could be like, all right, let's talk
about politics.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
For This is from Danica Vote. Jesse says he will
always have fond memories of Clayton. Season is giving they
white lotus to each other in that ice museum.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
They were like looking in a mirror at each other
and definitely we're getting horny for themself.

Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
What are our top two of those? I really like Gary,
I like white lotus and Gary. Yeah, okay, okay, our
final two ur Danica vote Jesse, saying you will always
have fond memories of Clayton. Season is giving the white
lotus each other on that ice museums.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Yeah, who do you think is your George?

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
Hattie Hines, Gary, I didn't think it was possible to
be in love with more than one woman. That's why
you have to find out how much money they have?
How much money? Or they white lotus to each other?

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Lamar uh, I'll do how much money?

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Sean, I think because I'm hearing Gary say in my head?
How much money is really making me left?

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Jacky?

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
How much money?

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
How much money? Doctor b how much money? Okay, Hattie Hines,
Hattie Hines, queen you want it? Gary, I do think
it is possible to be in love with more than
one woman. That's why you have to find out how
much money they have?

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
What, thank you so much? I hope you didn't think
we were too cynical.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
No, no, it's very educational.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Would you like to come back and play with us
during Paradise?

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm gonna watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
Yeah, you're gonna love Para.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
I really it's more realizing a great time. I think
I just believe in love again. I don't know, woke
in something in me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
You've been such a really important addition to the podcast
and we really like having you on.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
I just hope I didn't say anything crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
You're the least.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Yeah, we are the ones wiling. You watched it like
everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
What would you like to promote?

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
Oh, you can check out my album. Got an album
out called a highly sensitive person.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
That makes his perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
Yeah the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
That's what you're lovely.

Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
It's on all the places where you hear music like Spotify, Apple,
Auto Joints and then music and not comedy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
It's music. Yeah, yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, it's it's
like it's like, you know, a journey through mental health
and hip hop. It's dope.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
And then yeah that's it. And then and big Team
first Friday of every month, and you see be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
You can't go wrong with that. Yeah, Sean, this, what
would you like to promote?

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Look, this summer, I want to see my plug time
to Lamar because they're doing the Bottle Biggs this summer.
I don't often get super excited for podcasts, but hearing
Lamar and I'll talk about Gossip Girl was so fun.
So hearing them now talk about show that, I'm like, Oh,
they're gonna have so much to talk about Branos. It's
gonna be incredible for watching the Sopranos. So whenever that

(01:47:28):
comes out this summer, listen, is that a Headgun podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
No, that's I don't know actual contract.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
What would you like to promote?

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:47:42):
No, this Sunday actually as of this episode, So the
thirtieth of March twenty twenty five is another comedian clash,
which if you are not in Los Angeles and no problem,
we live stream the show.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
We got Kevin Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Fun I know I have months. He was lovely.

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
Yeah, Angela, I'm fucking her name up, Angela, Angela from
Smash Fame, fun people.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
I know her.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
So check that out and then uh yeah, keep keep
your eyes peeled out on drop Out TV. There may
be a show coming down the pipe that you might
see me in charge of.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
Wait, can I say one thing? We didn't talk about
how Latia had food?

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
She was in that course, how are you going to
get to the bathroom? And she looked incredible, He looked incredible.
Just I would like to promote my Righteous Gemstone. I'm
going to be on three more episodes that I will
be on this coming Sunday, so and then I won't

(01:48:49):
be on for a couple of weeks, but then I'll
be back for two So this last Sunday and this
Sunday after White Load is so that'll be really fun.
And then I have some live shows coming up doing
ass Kat and some stuff like that. And let's just
look at my Instagram, doctor BB what would you like
to promote? I'm just at Money Moves hosting on Instagram

(01:49:09):
kt Money. What would you like to promote at Kati
Underscore Money on Instagram? And it's always please go to
your local shelter and the doctor, Foster and Animal. And
I want to just give a shout out my maw
portrait that was made from a listener, Hattie Heinz, who
just won. She made this when my cat passed away.
And and if you notice, I didn't even realize there's

(01:49:31):
lemons for the lemons tree roses. And my kitty loved
a red pepper, so she's told me the red pepper.
It's made out him a napkin and her dad's fishing wire.
Isn't that so cute?

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
That's special.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Come on, we have the nicest We have the nicest
podcast listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
So enjoy your sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
It's so cute. Enjoy your sleep, clown, And if you
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They're really cute.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
Yeah, what a season.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Stay safe, everybody. We'll be back in a couple of months.
I guess saying summer. This summer. Say this summer, honey,
and I might be doing it from Atlanta, doing something
fun in Atlanta, Babby there in July and August, honey, Okay,
until next time you are maybe okay, okay, cool, until

(01:50:21):
next time. My name is much Fie.

Speaker 11 (01:50:24):
Oh yeah, we're gonna get all up in your tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
I feels so good.

Speaker 11 (01:50:33):
I just got one little bush finger. Where you read
this rule? Were you reaccept this rule? Listen to your word?

(01:50:55):
These rules to your world?

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