"STEVE HARVEY'S LITTLE SECRET!" W/ Miles Gray and Laci Mosley

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Will you Accept this Rose? A production of
I Heart Radio? Seeing all those big suit clubs and
I made me I gotta get me a man in
a blousy suit who's going into hiding in the land

(00:20):
of social media where no one could find him. But
he does love a big bodied woman, and I respected
that's a natural day. I feel like if I put
him out, maybe I would have got a couple of music. Hollo,
my babies. Welcome to a very horny, erotic Tuesday in

(00:44):
my garage. I am really living my best life. I
have on a black something and a I have a
freaking bandana. I'm like I'm a cow girl, like I'm
living my best quarantine lifestyle. My hair has been braided
like I'm going to the roll or disco, and guys,
what a joy. I want to say. The guests that

(01:06):
we have with us today are so exciting. We had
this gentleman on for the very first time. He was
the rookie Rookie of the year. He was the rookies
rookie because are he was on with our rookie Jerry Trainer,
who then rookie him and sort of brought him under
his wing. And I'm gonna say the reaction to having
this man on our podcast was gigantic, Like people went batshit.

(01:30):
They couldn't believe that their two favorite party. They love
daily zeite guys and they enjoy we accept this Rose.
They people wanted more of him, so we have brought
back to break down the first ever season of The
Bachelor and the Bachelorette. Miles Gray, thank you so much. Uh.

(01:52):
What what's the listenership called Rose Nation? What we call
them the Bachelor Nation, but I mean for this show,
for this show specific quickly dot vodkas, dot vodka, the bones,
the Bonze Nation, Yeah, the Bonzone. Niche, thank you so much.
Your your kind words only encouraged me to go further
into my bachelor journey Bachelor at journey. Uh. And it

(02:15):
was really nice to go from you know, the season
that I saw what was her name again? Great fantastic Uh,
and then to see what the first bachelor was and
to be able to see that juxtaposition, I'm starting to
see what everybody else sees. Baby boy becomes a man,
baby boy becomes her man? Question question do you feel that?

(02:37):
So you are one of the hosts with Anna with
Anna Tanna Hosnier, who's here with us right now. I
was rocking a tan right now. I feel like I
see a little shoulder, tann shoulder. Yeah, Cannon's in effect,
she's rocking her best Fourth of July weekend lifestyle. There's
a Tanna happening. Um, you also host, so you host
the daily sight guys, but then you also host the

(02:58):
four twenty day Fiance. I feel like this has a
lot of crossover. Um, yeah, they're they're different styles, you know,
like this is gamified, but I guess I don't know,
ince like visas are gamified, so it's all kind of
the same thing. But I really it's Yeah, it definitely
scratches the same itch, which is like I get to

(03:18):
laugh at people who I think I'm better than. Exactly
it is at the end of the day, it's like
my pure base level of garbage, just enjoying, enjoying like
other human people, like interacting and doing things. And I
always wonder what I would be like in this situation
with us today is a woman who is such a joy.

(03:38):
She is such a delight, She is so hilarious. She
is the host of the Wonderful, fucking Hilarious podcast scam
goddess that I listened to this morning with Miles on it. Um,
I'm so happy to have her here. I hope we
can capture her like we've captured Miles, where she has
fun and she's kind of like alright, alright, all another one,

(04:00):
ladies and gentlemen, lazy Moseley, Hey, my god, Arden, what
an introduction. Yeah, Miles is just like you know, what
do we call those people? Like, he's like a switch hitter.
He can like play I don't know sports. That's like
he came on The Scam got us and it was
so good that they wrote articles about it and fair. Yeah,

(04:23):
it's crazy. I was. So. Here's the thing I learned
on your podcast today for so it's if you guys
haven't listened to it, it's on ear Wolf. It's so fun.
It is just delighting in all things scam. You should
definitely listen to it. It's really a blast. And I
what really I had. I still can't believe that this

(04:43):
is true. The part of the Michael Jackson song like
where it goes Mama Save MoMA, so I'm a mom
like that there's actual lyrics? Is that? Please? So? I listeners?
I was wrong I was wrong. Okay, Look I love
robbery and I love from Yes, and I can also
admit when I'm wrong. Actually, Myles was right, and it's

(05:05):
based off of this like, um, isn't like an African
like music, Like it's like some kind of African Yeah. Yeah,
So he actually is saying I'm a saying mass because
that's like the thing that that guy says. So when
I said that, ever, I was like, oh my gosh.
And then I got attacked on Twitter and I had
to make a formal apology. And you man, in true

(05:29):
Leah Michelle fashion, I made sure to blame it all
on y'all and taking no responsibility. I was like, look, y'all,
my producer didn't google it. I take no possibility. Um,
this is just what it is. And and you became
an A List celebrity by like throwing somewhere under the bus.
That's like the first step to becoming an A List.

(05:49):
I gave the first apology. I was like, if I
offended you, but if you heard a mistruth, that's not
my fault. However, I'm sorry that your ears heard a missionchat.
Now what did you think he was saying? What was
your mistruth that people accidentally overheard what did you thank you?
Yeah exactly that I definitely didn't say myself when they heard.

(06:11):
It's kind of like, you know, like is the dress
gold white and gold or is the dress blue? Like
I didn't say this, but I blame myself this morning.
I blame my faulty. I hate myself for thinking I
appreciate you taking responsibility and I'm so sorry that I
even came at you with this because I'm such a
piece of I'm such a piece of ship and everybody
knows it, and this is my my fucking fault. What

(06:33):
did I think that I heard? What did I think
I you heard was I'm gonna keep going and I'm
not gonna stop, So I'm gonna keep good. Getting that
sounds so wrong? Yes, this is so good. You in
your mind like are gonna stop? It reminds me of

(06:58):
that that like viral video of the dude who's calling
into like a Spanish language radio station and he's like, hey,
can you play that song? And the DJ is like
what song? He's like, uh, revocal, so Nike. And the
DJ is like what is so revocal? So Nike? He's like,
she is me and he's like, I don't know, and
then he realized. He's like, wait this song, this is

(07:19):
the rhythm of the night. And the dude was like really,
it was like I thought you were saying, is it
Reebok or Nike. I think we all have a way
of having to hear things in ourn. Yes, wrapped up
like a douche go running in the night, wrapped up
like a douche um. Also with us is Katie Levaine.
Hi Katie. It was Lazy's birthday and fourth of July.

(07:40):
Happy belated birthday, Lazy. And for her birthday, she found
out she's COVID negative, which is exciting. Yes, I did
spend the weekend. I took my temperature like fifteen hundred
times this weekend. I gotta get a test. I gotta
get a test. I'm really bad. I was with three
people and we all got tests. However, because some of
our tests hadn't come back. And I call the fourth

(08:00):
of July the fourth of Lacy America show the girl
don't know the girl uh celebrating me um And like
randomly I would try to sneak and take people's temperatures,
like with my with like my wrists, I'd be like,
oh my god, you're so crazy, and they're like, what
are you doing? Get off of me. I'm like, now
you're come on, are you saying that? I was like,

(08:24):
oh my god, that's a good idea, Like that hadn't
occurred to me. And I was like, if I do
have a socially distanced like hang, you think my wrist
isn't going to touch some part of the body. And
then they're like, get out, get the funk out is
immediately kick somebody out too warm you get machine on,
You're like, let's put on some rave music, and then
you like what you think are like laser pointers. It's
like laser thermometers, and you're like, hold up real quick,

(08:46):
everybody there we go. I feel bad because I'm the
mean person when people call for sneeze, I'll be looking
at them like excuse me, Like like you called me
a bit, Like what are you saying with your mouth? Hey,
you're gonna call heck, you are correct, You're the right
person in this. Before we get going, I want to
just say I'm gonna do there's gonna be a giveaway

(09:07):
at the end of the podcast for this beautiful puzzle
that I made from my upcoming book. It's a meet
the author's puzzle with a recreation of my sixth grade
photo and my cat. I've recreated my sixth grade photos
me and my cat Mitten. So we're gonna be pulling
who to see who wins this beautiful custom puzzle. I know,
and we also I want to thank We'll just get started,

(09:31):
and I just want to thank both of you for
giving me seven hours of your time to watch the uh.
I actually have to say I enjoyed this because I've
never seen these seasons. So you guys get to break.
You are officially the very groundbreaking the very first season
of The Bachelor and the very first season of the Bachelorette.
Um Lacy, what's your history with the Bachelor? Because Miles

(09:53):
has only seen it in this form and one season
Caitlin season in this form, and that's it. Okay, So
my original Bachelor was Flavor of Love. I watched that
horrible television. But I watched two thousand six two seven. Yes,
so it came a little later, but that was like

(10:14):
my first experience with this type of show. I have
watched certain, you know, snippets and pieces of the Bachelor.
I'm mostly watching on Lauren Lapus's Instagram story. So Joy, Yeah,
I also remember Tequila what's her name? Tequila? She had
she what was it called? I remember that. I remember
that I watched that, and I watched Flavor of Love,

(10:37):
so I've also I've watched UM. So here we are,
we're starting out, and h We're in Chris Harrison's the
his his study that looks like the lobby of a
Romata in and his son, Harrison Harrison, his um Captain
Harrison and his son Harrison Harrison is sitting there in
his Romata lobby house and he's displaying his novel, which

(11:01):
is out of print, called The Perfect Letter over her shoulder.
And I want to say that one of our dear listeners,
Cassandra Gray, emailed Anna and I like she bought us
the book, and um, I'm just opening it up now.
Shall I read the first three sentences? Chapter one? Chapter one,
The Perfect Letter? This is to my kids, Joshua and Taylor.

(11:24):
You will always be the greatest love story I will
ever write. Okay, what if it doesn't. So this is
chapter one. This is the first I'll read the first paragraph. Okay, okay,
Lee Meryll had grown up surrounded by men. She'd known
men who were kind, men who were good at their work,
and men who were generous, but rarely had she met

(11:46):
one who was all of the above the way Joseph
Middlebury was as editorial director. He taken an interest in
her from her earliest days at Junks and Hall Publishers,
listening to her ideas and encouraging her to discover new authors,

(12:09):
and she'd thrive there, moving up from a lowly editorial
assistant to senior editor in only six years. When at
last she had gotten her own office and he'd finally
decided it wouldn't be inappropriate any longer to ask her
to coffee. Yet, bro, it's still appropriate. She felt both
grateful for his support and flattered that he that she

(12:29):
That he'd singled her out to be with him in
this new, more intimate way. Why not, she thought at
the time, It might be fun. I love that it
starts with me too, story lazy, take it away? Wait, so,
first of all, shout out to Joseph visibility, because there
has never been a Joseph in a romance novel ever. Doctors,

(12:52):
community stand the up right now? Okay, good community, we
see you. Joseph little what, Joseph. I'm sorry. It's probably
some Joe's out there who've got some bomb, you know whatever.
But it just had to reading a book. It's not
like Fabio like you're gonna get think Mary and Joseph.

(13:13):
You know what, Joseph, if you don't suck me right now,
Joseph middle there, like I get I'm crawling out of
my skin. If I do not get nailed by Joseph Middlebury,
I will not pa. You know, Joseph Middlebury don't take
his cakies off when he fucking either around the ankles, well, Doc, yeah,

(13:34):
they have like a crease in the leg and the
question too or he lays them flat. He's like, hold on,
if we're going to have intercourse and he and he
like fulls them and like lays them and she's like
they will get wrinkled to the publishing company no longer erect.
He's wearing an untucked shirt like you don't have to

(13:58):
you don't have to check it in. He gottaeno guy mall,
he's got his on touched shirt. He's bothering some skymall
for sure. These who buys all their new clothes on
Instagram ads. Yes, he's got like a gargoyle on her
shoulder that he got like like the thinking man's gargoyle
that he got on the sky mall for his office.
Middle Barry and also Chris Harrison. What is with this

(14:20):
intro that's like this woman has met so many good means,
it's a nice man, a normal mean me and who
kind like what are you hyping up me? And like
this like I've never heard this much nice shit about
no me. And in the beginning of romance novel, y'all know,
y'all trash. This should have started like everyone she met
was garbage until she met Joseph middle Barry, that's more realistic,

(14:41):
who was her boss and when he finally promoted her
then he could try to finger her. She got promoted
to that dick al right, well to be continued. After
read a chapter a week or a paragraph a week,

(15:03):
next week we minded to paragraph number two. I have
to say it exceeds my expectations, but it has that
opening like he read a like a Wikipedia article or
a Wicky how like how to write a romance? And
I was like, really, let the reader know up top,
like what's going on where it's like, okay, I get it.
This character trash dick until boring guy. Now I know

(15:27):
what I'm about to read. Nicholas Sparks writing for Dummies
for the Zammy. Okay, so here we are. It's two
thousand and six to two thousand and two and Alex Michelle, Okay,
I have a fun I've met him. I've met him,
I now have at a New Year's Eve party, he's here.

(15:50):
I met him before he was I met him right
before he filmed it, and he was like talking about
he had a secret. He was a New Year's Eve
party and like he had a secret, and he was
like super excited, and he told me he wanted to
be famous. And I remember telling him he should go
to like trying to do like off off Broadway place

(16:11):
or something, you know what I mean. Like this is
before Instagram, this is before influencers. Like the ship expected
none of these people to go nobody on here is
gonna go sell fab fit pun boxes on Instagram. They're
just going back to like being like dental Hygenis and
Kansas or whatever. Like. So your experience had indicated to
you that the at that time, doing something off Broadway

(16:36):
was our equivalent of influencers I got the thing for you. No, no,
off Broadway, can't do that show. The whole time I
heard just thinking like okay, he's like handsome and like okay,
like you know, like just go get get your chops up,
like go get some practice and then maybe you could
get it signed by somebody that New York was easier

(16:58):
to start it in then l A and like so
maybe you could get signed and then maybe you could
book like a t V. Like that was my thought
pattern because it's such a different world. And he was
like oh no, no, no, no, honey, no, like heney
maybe girl, no like that, I've got bigger planned And
he was like so like kind of smug, but he
was so excited and his friend knew what it was.

(17:19):
He couldn't talk about it and he had this big
secret and then lo and behold, this guy was the bachelor.
He was like about to go film map. So he
shows up both Chris Harrison and they're in They're both
like little boys wearing their dad's suits. They're like in
front of like Miami Vice, Dad's let's talk about the closer.

(17:40):
I couldn't believe two thousand two loved such big blousey
suits Miles. Do you remember like was, oh boy, do
I tell me? Tell me the scene my motherfucking prom suit?
Tell me was it was like a light lavender purple.
It was a five button coat, look like I look

(18:02):
like like Steve. Little secret, Yeah, a little secret, secret,
little secret, but he's like, I can't be seen in
public with it's like clearly had the sun of his name,

(18:23):
like just like Boxy. I got it at the Santi
Ali shout out the fashion industry love santi All and
I got it for forty bucks. Are you a little
secret with L? I l apostrophe? No, little like little
like it's it's a big capital L. Like you know,
I'm really trying to bring that back. But like, yeah,

(18:43):
I had that exact suit if you look like you know.
My immediate thought was like, oh, he has like the
Lebron James draft suit on like Lebron James is drafted.
If you look at those suits that him and Carmelo
Anthony are wearing, they are basically like sales for boats.
That's why Coulton Underwood his he's a former bachelor. He

(19:03):
was like a late bloomer. He was a little chubby
in high school and his prom photo came out and
he was also in a Steve Harvey. He was also
like these Blossie so that's what's happening in the world.
Guys were wearing lacy. Do you have a like, is
there any memory? And you're like, were you shocked at
the size of the suit you saw last night? I
mean it was definitely giving me, like, I have a

(19:24):
court date right after this as soon as we wrap today,
I actually have to show up to the court, so
I'm gonna keep the suit on. I'll be back though,
I'll be back in a minute, but I do have
to go pay these trapping nickets. It was definitely giving
me that. I also have to talk about the fact

(19:46):
that this was such a dark time for women's eyebrows.
Oh my god. It was like everybody had six hairs
and just laid in the line. It was like you
watching ants on their way to a picnic, just like
this brow. I was surprised how much the haircuts were
still the Rachel like, or like that they were still

(20:09):
Jen Anderson like when Friends first arrived, Like it felt
like eight years too late to still be doing the
Rachel and I felt like they were also in sort
of like even the girl that got kicked out. The
first night she put on her like professional ladies, like
suit jacket like they're all like Ann Taylor Loft black
like sort of sequin and then like the suit jackets

(20:32):
and like a square tip friench tip. Now just all
of it was like what is happening? I was so
nostalgic for me because like this was like, you know,
like teenage. Miles was like, yeah, it's like wow, women
dress like like everybody looks like some hybrid of Rachel
Green and Sandra Bullock. Yes that's everyone, Shannon. The first

(20:53):
thing I saw, I was like, she looks like Rachel
Green cosplaying and Sandra Bullock or some everyone. There are
few who had strong Sandra Bullet vibes. It was like definitely,
like those are the people you know, dictating the style then,
But yeah, I love the eyebrows so too. Every they
were vapor thing. There was even like on a few

(21:14):
for like the Quirkier gals because it was it's full
Sandra bull like you're exactly right, full Rachel like, And
I felt like with the Kirkier gals there was almost
a little Darmatt and Greg hit like a little like quirky.
There's like a little super and then like weird tucks
like weird like quirky bun knots Like I definitely had
that rocking in my zig Zag you gotta Go zig
Zag part. I don't know if you guys ever had

(21:36):
sam Moon. It's just like, uh, is there other places
like sam Moon that It's just like a place where
you get a bunch of cheapash jewelry and they players
they have them in every like you know, kind of
suburban town. But it was like everybody was like bea
time about to be on a bachelor Harry, let me
get these clips. I want all the butterfly clips and
give me all of the hair scrunches. Everyone had all

(21:59):
that not was called sam Moon. I'm sorry I couldn't.
I'm like Sam Moon And then you know what we're saying,
like right we're talking about Claire's. I'm like, who is
this Sam Moon? And thing? Yeah, Texas where Sam Moon
was where you got all your bootleg bags and everything.
I'm kind of next time I'm in Texas kind of

(22:21):
want to go find it. Sam Is it's still in existence.
I think they are. It's like a Walmart for just
like jazz and every day you find something great. I
mean like that that erraw was still also like contempo, casual,
wet seal like, but they were definitely doing the ant Taylor.
They were the professional like these were like professional like
ladies in their blaze like Lady Blaze and and the

(22:45):
Sandrad book here and then the eyebrow like like a
chunky he'll just getting ready for love. Um so then
they have. They were like they literally were like, okay,
he was like a nerdy look at this loser in
the glasses, this aggressive. This loser kid got contacts and
started swimming and went to Harvard. And when Alex was

(23:09):
sitting outside with his hands on his knees like a
little boy in his court suit, and Chris Harrison looked
like a youth pastor sitting there at like fire pit.
Anna break it down for us, how much did you
love seeing the youth pastor? You kept texting me last night?
He thought Alex was dressed like he stepped out of
the matrix. Yeah, he looked like Neo out of the matrix.

(23:31):
There was so much leather. Also, Chris Harrison at some
point stressed like a substitute teacher, like just like a
guy who was like this, I have to take this
job seriously, so I'm going to put on my nicest,
like weird Nathew Roderick an election. Yeah he had. Yeah,
he had like a member's only jacket on. I was like,
what are we doing here? The matrix suit for sure? Oh, Alex.

(23:55):
And then he had to like matrix the little black
glasses like everyone had to tie any little black sunglasses
that You're like, what do you mean? She was like,
does he have a lisp? And then so I watched
I was like a lisp. I think he did have
a list, which is very a slight lisp, but I know,
I really liked that. I was like, that would be
awesome if they just chose a guy that list. Colton

(24:17):
had a slight list. He did. Yeah. I couldn't tell though,
because the audio was like old audio, you know, and
it sounded kind of grainy and it was a little
hard to tell. No, I think I was. I think
it was a Chris Harrison didn't have a list, but
I think Alex Michelle did. So. Then so then he's
talking to the youth pastor. Alex is sitting outside and
he was like, so, what are your friends thing do

(24:37):
your friends thing is crazy or a cool deal? Like
that's what it's like. It feels like a dad trying
to talk to their steps on about drugs or sex.
Like there was nothing relatable. Um, and they're like and
they did make clearer which they don't any more that
the women can reject him. They really set it up, lazy.
What was your thoughts? Like? Drinking all of this in

(24:58):
just like the rules of the game him. So it
was cool saying it for the first time because it
felt more earnest, like now everybody knows the deal. You
get on the show, you might become the next Bachelor.
You know, you gotta get it popping. You could be
selling fit tummy t on Instagram after this, So everybody
knows the deal. But back then it was like people
were still really enamored with reality TV and like, oh,

(25:19):
what's this? And I feel like some people might have
more genuinely wanted to be on a dating show and
find love or whatever. So it was kind of nice
conscious and also like all these girls was looking hello regular,
now the Bachelor, You've got to be a damn model
to be on there, Like, you know, these were the
girls up the street and around the corner, honey. They
were in starlets and they said you you and you

(25:41):
I well, it's I have to say, I agree with you.
I think it was like and these are the people
that are willing to be like this could be a
disaster because it was this, Katy, will you look up
when Joe Millionaire was Joe Millionaire was like after this
because it was after that, because I remember that was
like and he was like a fraud, Like there's a
there he he wasn't a millionaire and like and give

(26:03):
us three okay, so this is the very beginning. And
I also noticed, like watching it that there was really
crazy camera angles, like I feel like a headache, and
it looked like there was like no lighting, crazy camera angles,
like they didn't know. It was sort of fun to
see that they really didn't know how to do reality yet. Miles,
what did you think of the camera angles and the

(26:25):
production quality? And I was screaming at first. There was
a moment where there was I forget what contestant pulled up.
It might have been Amanda or Shannon, one of them.
And you know, look, I've I've as someone who's P
eight and a P reality shows themselves there are moments
where Yeah, I worked on I worked on a little

(26:46):
bit of Hell's Kitchen a couple of seasons. Um, was
he a total deck? No, yo, he was. You know,
Gordon Ramsey was actually very very kind to the crew.
He switched up catering companies on just on one of
the two seasons I worked on. He changed catering companies
at least three times in one season because like the
crew meal was not good enough for him. Like he

(27:08):
came around. I was like, no, this ain't good enough
for crewm flavor, he's not working around. I don't think
I never saw him eat from there. It was purely
I just thinking, like if you were working on the show.
There was also a standard of like how the crew
would eat, So take care of you guys night rib
eyes and fucking crab legs and ship like massive buffing. Yeah,

(27:29):
it was Look, I'll give it up to him, although
he would be kind of toxic with some people that
he would like to tease about their appearance. Okay, So,
having having worked on a set as a p A
like watching this were you like whats happening and I
were talking about the camera angles. It was there was
one like over the shoulder shot where he was just
blocking the entire shot. You didn't even see the woman's face.

(27:51):
I'm like, that fails to actually even be a shot.
Now there's like the coverage is bad and the bloom
filters on. Everything was like it was a bad infomercial
for like a swingers resort or something. Because back to
back to your point when Chris and him were talking,
He's like, hey, it's gonna be pretty cool, like the bloomfield.
It's sounds like two bros. But like we're going to
Funk Island. Man, it's like pretty sweet. Like they don't

(28:13):
even you don't even need condoms, and there's like these
fantasy sweets. It felt there was just like the it
looked so weird and it felt like they hired the
camera ops from cheaters because it just felt like there
were so many pants and like and like they probably
would follow him around. I was like, where did these

(28:34):
the camps? And they were like, go call Maury and
see if we can get some of their guys. It
felt like through a potted plant, like we can't let
him know we're here. Like it don't like there was
sometimes she knew they were there too much, like the
camera would be this close and they'd be having an
intimate moment and you're like, what is yeah true, it
is like morey. We're like they're looking like when they're hiring,

(28:55):
they're like, okay, so good. You know, how do you
steady cam? Okay? And you've shot on a dolly okay.
Also you've chased a woman in tears down a back
hallway in the studio after she found out that the
father of her children wasn't actually usually thought okay, great,
you're hired. Like there are those that energy to I
also like that when they're in like they go into
like a store at one point to make it interesting,
they like flip the camera upside down. They're like, see

(29:18):
things are fun, and you're like, she tried on the dresses. Yeah,
it's like what school. It sounds like when she when
like even just calling out the when when this woman
was storming out and he's like we have to sit
on the bench, like it was something like that he
couldn't there, We had no game to just naturally like

(29:38):
try to get her to the bench or just or
just roll with it and just stand up and talk
to her there. It was like he was being such
a good boy and following orders like in his big
boy's suit to like have to go sit on the bed.
It was so raw at that point. And then he
sits down and she doesn't sit down because she's like
fuck you. And then he like gets back up. It's
like he doesn't know where his mark is. He's like,

(29:58):
I mean yes, so I'm sorry it's not working. So
then we get just like I totally agree with Lazy
that it felt like they were just like regular gals
that we could all and there could be any of
like any old gal that they're like, you know, you're
a human woman, you're coming with me. So they all go.
They send them to like you know, to their aunt Taylor,

(30:18):
and then we get to see them all come out
of the limo and just like I just knew there
was a side of him that felt so like horny
and skivy. The second Amanda came out with her giant knocker,
there was I knew there was no way this slightly
pervy Harvard dude wasn't going to be like you. Just

(30:40):
I just knew he wanted to like motor boat like
he was just like fully horn dog and on those
titties coming his way the backstory is very like a
guy who didn't have a lot of sex to like
they set it up like he used to be blind,
but thanks to contacts and swimming in Harvard, he's flock
able now and he's ready to be on this show.

(31:00):
So like, yeah, when you say, because even in the
rose ceremony, like that first show, saying was like, let
me just get this out of the way, and the
women with the two largest sets of breasts, I'm just
gonna be the rose out too right now. I was like, Okay,
I know where this guy comes. I mean, as soon
as you saw those tips, did you know that he
was like you knew he was just so psyched to
be the bachelor, lazy, what did you know Tenny was
gonna get far? So I knew Tenny was gonna get far.

(31:23):
But furthermore, the first kiss of the whole the whole event,
the first kiss that what was that blackground named I
don't want to jump ahead if if we're not quite there,
but we can go. Well, so Lanice and him going
the gondola and then under the gondolet they're like, well,
when you're under the gondoli, you gotta kiss. When you're

(31:44):
the under the bridge bridget I'm thinking I'd have to
do a look cute little pick or whatever. This school
was all in her mouth, I would have been like
giving my mouth back. Oh my. And I'm surprised, like
seeing her at a later day that she liked it. Oh,
she liked it. There's a part where she wasn't even responding.

(32:05):
He was kissing on her, and she was like, yes,
go on, yeah, she said it still make her horny
to this day. I said, that's what I like to
hear is that we both enjoyed this because he was
inspecting my girl's goosey pipe, like he was all in
her loves. I was wondering if twenty years later she
could be like, I felt really violated, but I like that.
She's like, no, I still get horny for like actually

(32:25):
like and then she said it like I got horning
for this. I'm horny thinking about it right now. And
I just thought, yes, this is okay, Yes, I actually
wanted more of Lenise. And but like again, when giant
titty stepped down, we learned from Amanda she's got a
huge move. She's open sexually with her partners. She everybody
thinks she's shy. Because she's from Kansas, but she's purchased

(32:48):
a trapeeze and she was married to a man seventeen
years her senior. I love that. I love that, Like
people think I'm a square, but you know I actually
have a fuck sweet Yeah, it's like my personality. My
personality is people think I'm boring, but I fuck. So

(33:12):
then we have Amanda. Of course did he got the
first rose? There was no way she was not going
to get the first rugs from there. I was like,
that's it, like once, like once she got the first one,
there was just like he just said this pervy heart
some of those Harvard dudes, man, those creepy preppy boys, right,

(33:34):
because he doesn't look like he should be that horny,
Like he's the opposite of the of the sex wing girl,
which like I look at him and I'm actually there's
the same person. Because I look at him and I
was like, you should not be horny like this, you
would like because I feel like he probably grew up
with like gals like a Buffy or a Muffy, like
a tennis club type gal that like would not have
a fox swing, you know what I'm saying. Like I

(33:56):
feel like the people that are sort of ruled in
that world. Now, not everybody, but like I think this dude,
this sort of like Ivy League dude probably like this
was like an exciting you know, I'm branching out for him.
I don't know. He feels like the type of dude

(34:17):
who like party would Brett Kavanaugh or something. Yeah, like
a Winklevoss friend. Like there's something in that world that
you're like, he's got that like that AI like machine
learning average face of like what a man in power
looks like in America, Like that's what his face looks like. Well,
the fact that he's been successful enough that he like
literally no one knows where he is. You gotta have

(34:37):
the doe to be in hiding him. I just had
to Wikipedia page. It says that in high school he
was valedictorian, student body president, homecoming king, and captain of
this and Dairy and Connecticut like it's a right, didn't
go to Dairy. I looked him up because in the
beginning with The Bachelor, they would bring in rich dudes,
so like they they had Andrew Firestone, like they would

(34:58):
bring in all these rich dudes because it was like
basically like you want a rich guy right, ladies like
you know, like and they would kind of cast it
out and they wouldn't just pick from the franchise and
and yeah, I just think like I just sort of
knew there was like a deviant side of this guy
that's probably been I don't know. I don't know. Why
did he disappear? That's what I want to know. Why

(35:19):
did he vanish? Do you think he's ashamed like that?
It doesn't go with his like Darien, like Harvard Upbringing,
like does he hang? Like what do you think? I
don't know. I do not want to be found. You know,
these are trying times we live in. Shame him, shame him,
be like where is that energy now? Alex? When I
saw you? Yeah, exactly, you got famous. Where'd you go? Where? Alex?

(35:43):
And he's not famous in a good time to be famous,
because that was when you were famous and people couldn't
access you directly, like I guess I could go on
my Space or some ship, but really it was just
like you would be in the restaurant and they're like, oh,
you're that person. But it's not like now where people
can like tweet you and be like I hope you
choke on a knife's changed so he could have fun. Yeah,

(36:05):
that's you're absolutely kind of night. I know. I got
somebody tweeted at me once like I hate your face
and you're like this my fucking face, that's my face. Okay,
um okay, so so um I so then a man,
I got the first rose. He cut so many women
in the first ceremony. They cut like I would say,

(36:26):
like twenty women. Katie, what did you think? Could you
believe this year numbers of women that they were coying. Yeah,
they went down the fifteen on the first night, which
now I think they cut like four people the first night,
five people maybe, like they go from I think or
thirty down there like twenties. So this was a lot.
And even his phrasing of it, he was like I
have so much power, Like the women that are holding

(36:47):
the roses are smiling at me, and the ones, like
the ones that don't have it are glare. Like you
could see he kind of enjoyed, Like I call them angry,
the women who don't have roses looking agree with me.
I was like, yeah, angry. He sounds like a like
a billionaire CEO who's like firing a bunch of people

(37:08):
and like it is like disconnected from it, Like yeah,
the people who I have just they seem upset by it.
I don't know, but I have all this power, which
is cool. But he said that women that have roses
are beaming. It's like they're I mean, they're they're still
get to be on TV. It's about You're not it's
not all about you. I think he really thought it
was like, these women really are excited to be with me.

(37:28):
It's like, well, there's cameras in their faces, that's why
they're beating. So then we got to see the very
first promo, which actually, I have to say, I felt
like they did a good ad. It's like boy Mead's
Girl and girl. Like I actually felt that it was
for like two thousand two. I see why so many
people tuned in, like if you've never seen something like that.

(37:50):
I was like, Oh, that's actually like a pretty good
two thousand to add for this. Anna, what did you
think I agree it was if? I I mean, because
I think it was like before that, originally there was
only like Joe Millionaire or whatever, the guy who was
like a fake millionaire that you could try and marry.
But other than that, like this was I think this

(38:12):
was like the first to be like boy me it's
girl and girl and girl and every horny dudes like
never girls, like oh my god, he went to Harvard
and it was like ripe for like early two thousand's
TV watching, like it could have easily been like t
G I F like check it out. You're not gonna
miss this one. Like there was like the sitcom vibe.

(38:34):
It was perfect. I think here was also the idea
that it was like and these like wait, these people
go on a show and then like they're gonna get
married because of the show. It was crazy and they
don't know the guy and then there's like thirty other people.
Because that was really like kind of opened everyone's mind
like whoa, you people are really just gonna throw this
kind of normally on a sacred or just something you

(38:56):
actually invested time and energy into being like we're gamifying this.
Oh when when was Truman Show? Like like it was
it was the earlier because it feels like it was
like people were starting to play with the idea of
like realite like what like you know that that the

(39:16):
fact that you could go on TV and in the
conference of like a set pham like it was just
like it was also, we're all just so deep in
the matrix right now, you guys like we've just we
just are deep and that Marritrix. Okay, So then we have, um,
we meet Trista, who's going to become the future bachelorette.
She's a Miami heat dancer and she works with kids.

(39:37):
Um and uh so then Ronda, Ronda did you love?
She was the aggressive one. They said that she they
called her the aggressive one, and that she could shoot.
She was a gun shot and uh and she was
the first person who said I'm not here to make friends.
And she did the first cut and like interrupting, and
then she started crying and she said, I believe in

(39:58):
two of them, not four. This is a fairy tale
of two. Not for lazy. Take it away. Tell me
about your lover for Rhonda. Let me tell you about
Rhonda rd. Rhonda is a messy queen who lives for drama.
She was petty as hell and and also who gave
her a gun like hood on then on reality? Tell

(40:20):
who thought let's give let's give people guns. They're a
gun on a boat, Like they're on a boat and
that's legal. They they were on like a yacht. And
then she gave her they gave her a gun that
would never happen now on television, Like they don't even
give you that wasn't a prop, Like you don't they

(40:42):
don't know guns on how did this happen? Yes, you're
absolutely right. You're absolutely right. They gave her killed on
movie sets with real guns. You're they gave her and
people get hurt with even like the fake Like they
gave her a loaded weapon on a and she was
the craziest one on the show. I'm like the producers

(41:03):
had to have known that she was already let's do
Roma's already seeming a little unhinged, guys, let's kive her
a gun. Also, the skeet shooting, Uh date isn't until
next week. It's like, is that right? Just get him
out right now, We'll just throw him off the side
of the boat. Thought she would shoot Dereka leaving. She's
like this is a fairy tale. Like it was like

(41:28):
she was like setting the bar for like dramatic exits.
It was so Mike droppy, Like the first I was like, oh,
that's a possible exit, like yes, yes, big Karen energy
before anybody and sting her. Now she's still like her,
She's still from her, you know, Kate Gosling, can I

(41:51):
speak to the manager in Tempe Arizona. Here she's still
calling the manager though no one knows the manager, like
Karen okay, she like the police. She called the police
on Lenise on her way out. She was like, Lenise, definitely,
and Lese threatened me, oh my god. And she had

(42:14):
an anxiety attack, that's right. They're like, could you please
just take deep brea. She's like, I'm having a check.
Like they actually had to bring in paramedics because Karen
Ronda is like freaking out. It was. It was an
incredible It was an incredible like it's a whole new
world like of like what's possible on TV? Like this

(42:35):
is mesmerizing. Anna, what did you think of ron one?
I under say, what was she shooting on the yacht?
I don't even know pigeons. It must have had to
have been I don't shoot it. That's wild. Also, she
they said she coined, I'm not here to make friends.
Yeah she said it because she kept interrupting. She like,

(42:56):
because he was like it was going to be hard
to do a six person date. But and he's like,
I'll figure it out. You know, there's so many women.
And then she was the first one that realized how
to like pull up aside and she we watched her
say I don't care, I'm not here to make friends
and like, wow, it was the original. Can I steal
you for a sec? Like the original? She also did

(43:16):
that that was the first one. Yes she didn't say it,
but she like did it. It's the light bulb. But
like she had like all sorts of inventions. My last
note on her two things. One, I love the whole
machiavelic thing that she did at the end, which was
just like two of these girls are bad and these

(43:38):
girls I don't trust and I was like, yes, you
better give me this drama. And then also when she
had the panic attack, I loved that we were in
this place in the early two thousands when mental health
awareness wasn't as we weren't as conscious as we are now.
So I just kept hearing people say on the stay
on the show, like she having an attack, We don't
know what attack out there? Yes, yes, it's literally like

(44:00):
would wrong with her? Yes? Yeah that and everyone goes
that was weird, huh, Like at that end. It's usually
everyone's response to something like that, Right, dude, You're absolutely right.
So Ron is now saying that she was so certain
she wasn't going to cry. She's proud to coin that phrase.
And uh, you know, we all see everybody in their
in their kitchens with their you know, their husbands, and

(44:23):
the things turn out okay. Um, so then they're like, oh,
can people fall in love on TV? So then we see, uh,
he invites Shannon for a one on one day side note,
the group date arrived in a giant box. There was
like a present for the ladies. They've now since down
shifted it to like a like a disgusting, dirty old
note that somebody just writes them like a big pen,

(44:45):
but like there was a beautiful Anna. What did you
think of the red box as the group date? Yeah,
you could tell like they're like, man, let's like really
do this. And then as eight years went by, they're like,
the budget really doesn't include to have a giant red
like present box for every group or any date at all,
like it really Yeah, they definitely downshifted the invitations. So

(45:06):
now we're up to Shannon and he's like, uh, for
dazzling night on the town dress down and she's like, okay, okay,
I'm gonna dress down. And then he shows up and
he's in his big boys suit. He put on his
evening where his evening wear, big boy suit and um,
and they're like no, no, no, it's casual. So they

(45:26):
go to Beverly Hills and they're like, you can try on.
I'm like, does she get to keep it? Like you
get to try on? And what's the name of the
camera angle that they did, Miles the Dutch angle, they
did the upside down whatever you want to try on,
and they did the full pretty woman like and then
but she also was like do you like me in this?

(45:46):
Daddy like? It was fully like, is this the one
you like? You want to suck me in this one?
She kept trying on the black dresses, so I was like, gross,
all these colors are here, like you so racic, and
you're right, you hit it on the head, pretty woman.
They're trying to make pretty woman happen by being my girl,
just like you homeless. Yeah, and then Richard Gear is

(46:11):
gonna save you. Richard Gear is gonna save you. And
then they go and then they're they're having their meal
and there's a violin player and he says, may I
have this dance? Who? And then she's like, live you
teach me? Who wants to dance to a violin like
the one in the corner. I haven't think of that man.

(46:36):
I'm sorry to that man. But you know, he was
an actor who had violin in all calves written on
her skills at his resume. The way he was playing
that violin music nerd, I was like, no, bro, your
fingers are all you are very nervous on that thing. Also,
how are you gonna play Paca Bell's canon without the
proper to other violins and the contrabass or whatever was

(47:00):
of voices? Yes, because it was probably you're right because
it was probably not royalty because it was probably in
public domain because it's you do that or like the
national anthem like that was like that Happy Birthday like
because I think it's a classic piece of music, but
it really, you know, it really goes off when all

(47:20):
the multiple voices come in because it's like played in
around sort of. So anyway, by the way, side note,
this is after the very first the first kiss. This
was after Lenise. Lenise was they were in Vegas and
they go in the gondola and so so so far,
Lenise has been the one that's had the deepest connection
and he was totally bone zone, horny, hornified, just feeling

(47:43):
it and um. And then so now he's off, he's
off with Shannon and they're they're doing there, they're dancing
to the violin to Pocaboll's cannon, and she's like, I'm
falling for Alex, Like this is it. I this was
for the rest of my life. This is the eightist
date I will ever have. And he's and he goes,

(48:05):
I'm having visions of her as the mother of my children.
This is the fairy tale and he starts telling her
the story and he's like, did the frog not know that?
Shannon doesn't kiss on the first date? And that's when
it got interesting. And then she's like, um, I just
have a different way of forming romantic relationships and look,

(48:26):
I don't um like to share when it comes to
my significant other, and and she goes, I want to
know about like what roles in life? What is it? Oh?
He asked her, what does it mean for a good girl?
And how does it relate to sex? And then she's like,
you see how awkward I feel right now, but you
just don't care. And then she will not get into

(48:48):
a hot tub with him and show her body, and
and then she's like things that you want to happen
are not gonna happen, Mr. And then she cannot give
her He says, she can't give herself up to me emotionally,
and he's basically saying physically unless she decides I'm the one,
And I can't decide she's the one unless she gives

(49:09):
herself to me emotionally, I mean the whole thing. They're
in the hot times. She won't reveal herself, but she is,
as many of them are wearing nineties chokers through a
lot of this, she's got her choker on. Let's talk
about Shannon An. Yes, no, I just want to say
she reminded me of like every nineties movie villain, just

(49:30):
the way she acts and held herself like, ah, Mr,
this isn't gonna happen. And then like you're trying to
make me look like a fool. And it's like conversation
people ask each other questions like you need like but
that it really showed like she didn't know how to
work the system yet, like all the girls now will
go on the show or all the guys like they

(49:50):
know how to like gamify the bachelor or the bacherette.
Like it's so raw because she has like she doesn't
get it yet. It's like, you do have to grind
up on him so he'll pick you. She could have
not grinded up on him though. She just didn't know
how to be soft about it, like it was for
the cameras, because she was like, you don't get none

(50:12):
of this, never going again, and you never gone again,
never going again. He's like, why are you singing? She's like,
why are you singing? Shannon? Excuse you? Excuse you, Shannon,
stop saying she didn't know how to be like subtle.

(50:33):
She she was also a first, you know, in a
in a very significant way because I think she was
the first reasonable person that found themselves on a reality
dating show and being like WHOA, what the fuck? Because
I don't know, Like I was like everything she said
to me was reasonable, but the show and the cameras

(50:54):
make everything so much worse. And for her, she was
like it sounded like she was like trying to play
be very logical. It's like, well, if you like me,
then you wouldn't be like making out with all these
other people. Just really weird that you date four people
at once. And I think that and any other context,
if you're dating somebody, you wouldn't have to be doing
this thing where you're like watching someone you're dating make

(51:14):
out with another Brison like, okay, and now it's my
turn to She also just didn't know the name of
the game yet, so she also was the first person
to get the Fantasy Suite card, even though they didn't
call it that, but like because she didn't, she never
seen it. She didn't know the rules of the game,
even though Madison kind of did like the similar thing
this year to Peter. But she she she gets the

(51:35):
card and it's like he invites her to his shell a,
his Deluxe shell A Fantasy Suite, and she goes, well,
I'm sure you've got one of these. I can't believe
my name is on it. I'm sure you've got one
of these with everyone's name on it. I'm not dumb.
Does everyone get the same proposition inside their ruined date?

(51:57):
And um, yeah, and then she and then he was
the one that was like, we did stop of the
bench and then she gave him a curt formal handshake
and her Anne Taylor dress like like like it was
nice to meet you. I'll let me know if I
need tosabite something to hr like like like buying her job,
you know, like interview. Yes, it feels like she's applied
for a job and she's you know, waiting to hear

(52:19):
what her bonus pay will be. Anna, what did you
think of Shannon? Well, the thing is I didn't What
I didn't like about her is that she was making
it seem as if we were all trying to trick her,
as if he was pretending that he wasn't on a
reality show and that we tricked her into dating him
and coming on and not. It's like as if we
were trying to fool her the whole time. It's like,

(52:40):
you know what it is. There's cameras, you know, there's
other women. Some people knew what it was when they
signed up. Didn't didn't She really didn't. That's I'm like, oh,
this is interesting because as the viewer, you're like, idiot,
you just didn't get eliminated. Because if you're looking as
the show where like you live in a bizarre world

(53:01):
of debauchery and sex, where she's like, I didn't, like,
I don't know this if I'm really gonna like potentially
marry this guy, like this is so fucked up and weird.
And then she'd be like, oh right, you're not built
for this because you have that very specific mindset and
it doesn't if I want to go funk this guy
on TV, you know what I mean. Like, it's also
that like and you're and it's gonna be two other women.

(53:23):
I mean, she has a point like if that, she
became very conscious of the crew and the cameras to
At that point I noticed too, like her body language
became immediately closed off, like she would There would be
looks off camera too. I don't know if it was
at producers or things, but it seemed like suddenly she's like,
oh my god, I'm this thing. I don't want to
do this. When she came back, so she laughed, she laughed,

(53:44):
she shook his hand, she stormed off, and she's turned
back and she goes, I'm just curious why, like got you,
Like it was a real gotcha And he was like, UM, well,
I think you're amazing. Um I just we're just two
different people and with different struggles and she's like, Okay,
have fun, but like no, Basically she's like it's because

(54:05):
I wouldn't you. Yeah, Areth, that energy is the energy
she had the whole time. That's why I couldn't get
behind her. Because when she got the fantasy sweet card,
like you said, she was like, also about to be
in here with other bitches? Yes, girl, you side women
a fight, Like she's like following him around the man

(54:29):
So she's like opening up the door. What I do
want to hear everybody else wanted here, Like, yes, girl,
it's a reality show. But I will say this, I
don't agree with that Alex did when they were out
and she was kind of closed off and they were
skiing or doing something, and she was like, I'm not
gonna tell you nothing about myself. There's certain things that
you never know about me, honey, so you need to
have back off. And then he was like like lunge

(54:49):
at her and tried to give her a kid, didn't
I tell you? And I was like, I'm on your side. Girl.
You're no Joseph Middlebury. You it just come at me,
you know, just put a moment into the corner office.
What do you think you are? Joseph Milbary A right, take,
We're gonna take a break. We'll be come right back.

(55:15):
I don't know about you, but things agatting so hot.
I think I gotta take I'll break her back. Um.
So we actually actually see Shannon, we see her again,
and she she says in her exit interview, this is
a Shannon goes. I think Alex is weak. I scared him.

(55:36):
And she's in Houston now. And um, she's forty two,
which seems younger than I would have guessed that she was.
I was surprised, Anna, What did you think of her age?
I do let Shannon is still Shannon. Shannon has not
changed goddamned in her life. Yes, and they and that
Chris Harrison actually sent her the card inviting her to

(55:59):
the honeymoon suite to finally like go get at it.
Like he sent that on her wedding night. That was weird.
I was like, mind her own business, Chris Harrison, Yes,
why are you doing that? So now we're down to
our final two and we have Amanda and Trista and
um um and he just you could just tell I
just knew, I knew boo boobs boobs after their date,

(56:24):
After the date and um, so it starts out we
find out that when she was eleven, her dad died
in his sleep of a heart attack, and um, she's
had to be the strong one to help her mom.
And then she married and her ex husband was seventeen
years older, and she loves wonder Woman and she has
a costume and she loves to wear the suit not

(56:45):
for Halloween, but just like around, you know, like around.
And then I have a cowgirl outfit with a thong
and chap the collection. I think it's fun. He's like,
I think it's wonderful to be adventurous. Guys. I mean,
she's closed. It was just like a mic drop in
that moment, Lazy, what did you think? I loved Amanda
from the second that her boobs came out the limo,

(57:09):
and I knew he was gonna go with her because
she just seems like very like simple and sweet and
young and and he was horny, horny, And I knew
he wasn't going to propose to her because he wasn't
actually there. I don't think he was gonna find any
real left. Like, no, it's not that hard. Those Harvard guys,
I feel like they're or like that whole dairy Anne world.

(57:30):
It's like I feel like it's like like it's weird.
There's like a weird world of like you marry whoever
you grew up with in that world, you know what
I mean? Like, I don't see that kind of a
guy going on TV. It's too snobby. Yeah, he already
knows who he's gonna marry. And she's got a family
with a lot of assets and they're gonnage shobby. It is.

(57:52):
It's like it's like an agreement. And again I'm sorry
to Alex. I'm sorry that I've met. But that's like
I feel like that world, like it's like you know
who it's going to be. I mean, it would have
actually been cool if they did stay like that. I
would have actually been like good for him, like he's
having fun. She seemed like a nice lady, like cool. No,
he was like, do you have those outfits in the trunk?
Like can we get those ceremony He thought he was

(58:16):
going to be able to funk after the first road ceremony.
It was like he just made a be like he
said that, I think it doesn't the actual point of
the show was completely lost. He was like, what's this
like all I can try to fun buffet and then
he also, I know, it's like it's truly like a
tsunami of pun when like these guys realized, like, yeah,

(58:37):
it's a punami, but ardon, I think you mean emotions
because when he wants to get to know you emotionally,
he's talking about your vagina yet heart that's within it.
He double D emotions, those double D emotions he goes,
he goes wow, And he was trying to sound like
a good guy, like the way he would phrase it.

(58:58):
He was like, you know, I just feel so lucky,
like so blessed to too blessed distress. A man is
very creative sexually. She's a creative sexuality and no one
has ever appreciated it. And I feel that I'm getting
a gift. And then they start like dry humping on
the floor of this Japanese restaurant, and this poor woman
walks in, this poor wat walks in, and then they're
like ha ha ha, thank you, thank you very much,

(59:21):
and they're like she looks at her like you trash,
like you are just grinding on the floor, like you know,
I feel like they were like Yama Shiro, you guys
ever been there. Isn't that a chain? You can't be
grinding on the floor of a chain. No, Yamashiro is nice,
it's up, it's up behind the magic castle, isn't that.

(59:41):
It isn't that I was king of Yoshida or whatever
that is. I think you might have been a Yashiro
and they're like grinding and like, yeah, he was just
but he was trying to be elegantic about like her
creative sexually. No one's appreciated it. Like a Wonder Woman costume, Yeah,
that's creative, so creative. Actually she wears sucking costumes when

(01:00:03):
we fucking missionary like okay, yeah, I think he can't
believe it. I think he grew up with like the
rich Connecticut lifestyle or like no one, I don't think never,
not ever, never, never, I think. I mean, I don't know,
maybe having all types of sex parties and dings and

(01:00:24):
Connecticut neighborhoods to be swinging because I lived in the
neighborhood like a pretty like affluent, like suburban neighborhood in
Texas and we didn't understand until a little bit afterwards
that our neighbors were swingers. I'm almost like they keeps
on invite me off for bunko night and then they
want us to Last week they came up and they
said they want us to see their pool tapele We
was like this, you gotta pulls out. We don't want
to see your pool tape. And there down if bunco

(01:00:49):
it's a bunk o night is come over like it's
code for come over and f then funk everybody. I
think it's like gossips sometimes and it's just like the
women drinking wine. But other times I think they're having
some like you know, eyes there some you know, some
some shoulder stroking, some gentle see where it goes, you
know what I had one I've had if I had one,

(01:01:11):
Like touring with stand up, like sometimes you get captured
by like you're kind of at the you don't have
a car, you're sort of captured at the whim of
like the club people. And I remember being at like
a meal once on the road and really I'm like,
is this guy's wife? Like I feel like they're I
think they're both trying to fuck me, like you know

(01:01:32):
what I mean. They made me like I was like,
really I can see my shitty meal that I like,
I can just get like a microd burrito like I
getting every other city, you know what I mean? There
was something I felt like there was like a lot
of touching happening and like like oh, they're all they're
they're trying to fuck, They're they're all trying to suck me.
Like whoa yeah, like you said some basic and you

(01:01:52):
were like, yeah, so yesterday my shower wasn't working in
the hotel. That's crazy. And all of a suddeny were
caressing your arm. You like, wh yeah, what are you
about that water based lubricants? Their kids are coming in
and out, and like the whole house was like just
filled with pop smoke, Like he just walked in. It
was like fully like walking into a bond. Like but
their kids were it was like what anyway, Okay, great

(01:02:15):
at home with their comic. Put your headphones on. Mom
and dad got a new date out. It's so rare.
There's a lady comedian. They're so excited to capture. So

(01:02:37):
then so then they go, um, so then they he
goes Wow. She's making me realize that sex and intraction
are important. Um, they are important cornerstones of a relationship.
Making me realize that I want to build mice family
with somebody that I'm really attracted to, Like he's just
realizing that. So he goes to the fantasy suite and

(01:03:01):
she says the phrase bless his heart, um, and she goes,
I just can't keep my hands off of him, and
she goes, she goes, he asked me to leave the room,
and then I came back in and there was a
plastic sheet, which I immediately think serial killer, and she's like,
and there was like chocolate fudge and caramel and ice cream,
and it was just I think she's the best person

(01:03:24):
for me. Guys lay when she said that, I had
to rewind because I was like, she said it like
it was Roses and Champagne is strawberry girl. He set
you up like Dexter for some time. Slastic sheet, plastic sheet, Katie,
What did you think it? Fully was? It was like,

(01:03:46):
like fully serial killer. If if I walked back in
and there was a plastic she always just walked back out.
It's like American kill me, Christian Bale. That's Christian Bale,
Wall Street Guy, American Psycho. Plastic sheet. He's like, be
a fan of Peter Gabriel. You're like, oh, hell, no, bro,

(01:04:07):
we're not doing this right now. Yeah, it's it's also
just how boring this dude is. You know, he has
a Manila envelope of a sex life, so hearing about
a woman who know what I mean? What I mean
is like I'm really thinking like that. It's just like food,

(01:04:29):
like regardless of how like awkward the setup was, Like
the idea was like, dude, what if you like licked
shoot off of each other? Like it's just a very
boring guys, Like, what would I do if I got
this woman who says they're so hot about like what's
the hottest ship I could think of? And it's like
licking condiments off of them? So I don't know, And

(01:04:49):
I when the freak categories like you could have done
something you could look, I think you could have got
some candles and some ships, some hot wax take it
there talks just about look, but I'm just saying if
he's going to for the plastic sheet and the and
the like for your first night together to bust out

(01:05:10):
a plastic she an, that's a big step, like the
food part. And by the way, like why do you
just stain the sheet if it's just whipped cream? Or whatever,
like you really need a plastic sheet that you can't
just pay for that like one white sheet. They might
be like, that's not for the food. Oh man, it
is the plastic plastic sheet. You've got to be deep in.

(01:05:34):
You gotta be deep. You've got to have like a
like a safe word for the plastic sheet. Like you've
agreed on the plastic sheet and you're deep in and
you have like you have like written things out, there's
rules and a contract of the plastic sheet. Yeah, Anna,
what did you think of the plastic sheet? And it's

(01:06:00):
just so crazy just pulling out a plastic It's almost
like from one of the roles, like you got out
in your bed, like like you know what they have it.
They're like hospital, just pull it out in a fresh one,
like all right, let's do this thing. But also like
how Christian and Vanilla has gotten the fact that it
starts like the very first season ever started with the

(01:06:21):
plastic sheet, like that it's so so tame now that
like they really started off kind of like he's like, oh,
I get to like I'm gonna go to Bone downtown,
like we're going to count down tonight on the plastic sheet.
It's fantasy. He's like, can we stop by a Sherwin
Williams or people. I need a drop clop. I need

(01:06:44):
some like plastic sink. I think they had one radical
producer who's probably not there anymore, because the same person
who gave Rohnda a gun, she was like the person
who was like, oh man, this freakiest funk I'm gonna
plastic is the SAME's just doing too much. So then

(01:07:07):
we have the second day. He's with Trista and she's
getting ready. She's in caprice and she's shy and reserved
and she's in her choker and capris, and he cooks
her food and he's nervous and he's like crashing around
his kitchen and he goes um. He's like, God, I
just have so much awkwardness around you. I'm so nervous.
And then she replies, Wow, that's good to know. This

(01:07:29):
food is so awesome, and he was like, what in
the fuck. Like she was solid, like I just fucking
gave myself. I just fuck Amanda on a plastic sheet
and I opened up. I exposed my personality to her,
and she rejected me. And then he asked how she
was feeling and she goes, I'm in like not in love,
and he was like, excuse you, lazy, what did you

(01:07:51):
think of all that? So there's another part in the
Fantasy Suite. I'll wait for you to say that part.
But that was when I really stopped working with al Um. Okay,
so yes, okay, so I'll say. So they go she's
got a crazy hair comb in and um he wants
to He wants her to prove that she's interested. And

(01:08:12):
they show up and they go into like a helicopter
right he starts like throwing up in the back of
the helicopter and and then she goes, did you do
you still feel sicky? And he's like, I zeeky And
then she's like and he goes and he goes, now
that I see you in that dress, I want to
kill myself. And she's like, I'm not leaving. Um so

(01:08:35):
then she and then she goes when I first showed up,
I thought, I'm so not going to be engaged. She goes,
if you had to do it tonight, So they hang out.
She's stroking his back he had to do it right now,
right now? What would you do? What would you do?
And he was like, I'd pick you and then um,
and then he got like he bought some rings and
there's two blonde ladies and chokers at the very end.

(01:08:59):
And did I miss a fantasy sweet part in there? No?
That was perfect because what I was gonna say was
is like she felt like a grown up in a
way that like was like, Oh, this is a woman
who's really probably looking for love, is not trying to
get herself played on national TV by this guy who
seems to just be like the horniest man alive. Um,

(01:09:19):
constant banana in his pocket. I'm just ready to see everybody. Yes,
I stood when she was coming from and she was
very sweet to him. When they were on the we
was throwing up a ship on the helicopter, which just
like you don't be rounding the helicopters like I thought
your family was secession, like you sussion everywhere you go,
Like what is this very good? What? So when he

(01:09:43):
said that to her and was like yes, he paused
for a little bit, I was like, Oh he about
the lie. Yeah, you knew it. You knew he was
gonna lie. But he shouldn't have lied. I think he
shouldn't have said who. I think he said, you know
I'm debating with her. I'm gonna get engaged, but I
really have a lot of strong feelings for someone, like yes,

(01:10:05):
like I can't say no. He lied because because there
was no plastic sheet. Yeah, that's wild. I remember it
that I'm in like with you. I remember watching it live,
which I didn't. It like all came back to me,
like I had a flashback of like sitting next to
my mom, like young, my mom and I think my

(01:10:27):
sister were watching it and I was like seeing it
all again and I didn't realize i'd watched the first
season live. I remember because I remember that's where the
phrase I'm in like came from, because I've never heard
that before. But it has stayed with me as I've
like literally thought like I think I'm in like with
that person. I don't think I like love them, you know,
like in my relationships. And it's from fucking Trista and

(01:10:49):
made me feel really wild and very like almost like,
oh my god, this has been in my life. You
didn't even realize how much taking your brain. Yeah, I
didn't realize I've been watching it for that long. He
gave like this full proposal, like this full everything that's
so great about Trista. And then he goes, you know,

(01:11:11):
I saw you, but I don't think we're meant to
spend our lives together. And she had her crazy hair
nuts and her Darmond gray hair nuts and the crazy
croissant on top of her head the hair, and she
goes like, he told me, it's you. He said that
to me, and it made me think it was me.
My life will go on, which I appreciated. I liked

(01:11:32):
her strength of that um. And then he said to Amanda,
I find myself falling in love with you, and I
bought you a ring, but I'm gonna hold onto it.
Here it is. This is the ring. I bought it,
I got it, they gave it to me. Some woman
was like, I hear you're here for a ring, and
then he's like, is it? Let me explain what I
hold on to it. I want to make sure that

(01:11:54):
we feel the same way about each other in the
real world. I'd like you to move to California so
we can be together. And then he gave her one.
He kneels on one knee and then he goes up
and she's excited, and then he inhales her hair into
the microphone, which was so disgusting, and she goes, this
was love at first sight is everything I've ever wanted.
And then we catch up with Amanda and she says

(01:12:16):
she's in a Kansas. I've turned out a lot of
amazing opportunities, Playboy and other options. Um, I was curious
about the celebrity life. Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anderson said congratulations,
and um and and nobody can find Alex Michelle guys.
I mean I did some quick research. He apparently lives

(01:12:38):
in the Washington, D C. Area. I found his LinkedIn.
I He's like, what a consulting. They think he's single.
That's what Us Weekly thinks. Huh okay, Lacy, I'm gonna
give the floor to you. When he when he got
the ring out, he didn't propose she had an opportunity

(01:12:59):
being a boy. It was porn, right. Do you think
the other opportunities porn? What do you think? Probably? I
mean they did put the plastic sheet on there, so
then I'm sure porn. The big porn in Hollywood. Tinkletown
started calling like, hey, like plastic sheets would look come
on over to sell to the valley. We got that, honey,
because they were vague about it, Like they were really
vague about and other things. It's like, well why not,

(01:13:21):
why not just say what it was? Miles, what did
you think of this ending? Whatever? You know? I at
the end of the day he was so horny and
like I didn't I wasn't rooting for him, so, you know,
and knowing that like Trista would go on to get
do her thing, I was like, Okay, I don't know.

(01:13:41):
It's it all made sense completely to me. Like he
didn't seem interested in anything meaningful. He seemed like the
second he realized like sort of the dynamic of being
the bachelor and what that meant to how he can
relate to these women and interact with them or manipulate them,
it was like it just became about this, that's the thing,

(01:14:01):
like that the whole thing was about first and this
is this first you know, toxic guy who like ends
up being like whoa, I got all these roses? Yeah,
So like it's like almost an experiment. But it's funny
to see how now everything proceeding that is sort of
built off of this. I have one last thought that

(01:14:22):
I have to say. Just Miles brought up the power
thing there was this weird power dynamic that he immediately
took advantage of, right bringing out that ring to a
man and then saying, I'm not going to propose to you.
I bought this for you, but I'm gonna hold onto it.
That is so fucking nasty. And if I had been
standing there, I would have took the ring and been like,

(01:14:43):
so much, you don't have to propose. That's a promised
ring for right now again by yeah, you're right. He
the fact that he said I got this for you,
I'm gonna hold onto it. It's such a sadistic power. Yeah,
it's uncord to a child, you know, like you're the
only person who has a choice. So here's the carrot

(01:15:04):
I need to be before. We're gonna take a break
and we'll come back and we'll power through Trista's but
the bone zone. Let's get in the bone zone, guys,
and we're back. So we're back, and here we are

(01:15:25):
with the very first bachelorette ever Trista, and um, I
gotta say the guys, the Chris Harrison shows up again
and an even bigger suit. Like it's as if he
was like, I need it bigger. It's gonna be make
the suit bigger. And we're talking about Trista. We're at
Tristam and she's and some there's a guy. The first

(01:15:48):
guy that gets out of the limo literally looks like
a Kendall. His name is Jamie. He's a basketball player
in Europe, and um, it's I enjoyed seeing Bachelor Bob
doing that aunts without music. That was fun. I enjoyed
Bachelor Bob had really nice Will Ferrell vibes. Yes, he
must be crushing it with the ladies. Well, he becomes

(01:16:11):
the bachelor later and he's like one of the most
beloved bachelors. But it wasn't fun. Wasn't he less fun
as the bachelor? Like, wasn't he like he wasn't Yeah,
but he wasn't as good now because I think everybody
wants that dancing fool that we all love, and he's
like and did he drink his own? Was it the
poon nanny that changes everybody? I feel like he maybe

(01:16:32):
just got a little full of himself. I'd have to
go back and watch, but I remember him all being
like very excited because like he was fun and he
wasn't like the typical super good looking at he seemed
very real, and then he kind of just seemed like
very full of himself. If I remember correctly, you give
a guy a poon nanny, he's gonna change and it's
not like the leader of like a lady cult. It's

(01:16:52):
going to change and it's not going to go well.
I will then remember him be like a good bachelor,
Like I feel like I still like to Bess the bachelor.
Um so that basically Trista. Overall, it seemed kind of
like the thing that surprised me. I liked the guy's camaraderie.
How like when they were on the group date and
they rock paper scissor to see who got a massage,

(01:17:13):
Like I like the fairness of that. They would never
do that now, like they felt like friends and they
got down like I enjoyed that they got it down
to two guys. And then I was surprised that she
was actually topless like that, that she was there just
getting massage next to this guy. And um, he was
talking about how he passed up Germany to come and
then they like showered together and he kept thinking about

(01:17:34):
dead rats, so he didn't get a huge bone or lazy.
What did you think of that? Out in I loved
how progressive Trista was for her time period, because we
haven't really let women be if we're just now kind
of getting to the point where it's like women's sexuality
or their worth is not tied to their sexuality or
tammany partners they have, or to like all the other
bullshit that men tried to teach us so that they

(01:17:55):
could trick us, so they could not be good at
six because that's how that ship wasn't like, we need
you to not have no sex with nobody, so when
you have sex with me, you don't know who told
you about that ship lying. He's not supposed to have
no fun. You're just supposed to have fun because we together.
Like so she says that I never heard of no

(01:18:16):
woman having no orgasm before. Nope, not me, Nope. You
say they were really very like they were very shaming.
Like even still they get shipped, and I woman's not
supposed to enjoy it. A woman is not supposed to
be like, yeah, I want to test drive the car
before I buy it if I'm gonna marry somebody like
and like yeah, like it's important to me, like I

(01:18:38):
want to have sex with my partner and like it,
so I want to try it out. Like I was
proud of her with that. She even said in the
limo she was like, I mean, I'm a grown woman.
I have sex. And I was like, bitch, And he
immediately had to because you he was pump faking because
the second he was like, huh man, I support that,

(01:18:59):
and I have a agreed with that since the beginning
of time. Actually, so because she feels a little basic.
But then when you get that, you're like, she's actually cool.
Like I was like, oh, she's great and that like
and then um so at the end of their massage
and the shower and he goes, do you mind if
I kiss you good night? And then it was definitely
before like consent stuff, because she was like, you're asking, okay,

(01:19:20):
Like if he just kissed her, I felt like she
would have been into it, but like she seemed bothered
that he was asking. So then she was like, well,
it's just the first one, so I'll just take a
little peck on the cheek. Anna. What did you notice that? Anna? Yeah,
I mean I feel like she's still of the era
of like romance novels, being like the like women read
romance novels, that's where it was. Yeah, like it was

(01:19:41):
written for them. She'd be like, I just want a
man to grab me, versus today we're like, sir, do
not touch me unless I have specifically said grab me,
which is yes, I'm gonna say that to the next person.
I mean me, I'm consented her out. Sure. Um so

(01:20:05):
then uh um Greg, Okay, this is great. So he
this is a fun storyline. Greg is so cute. She
can't stop looking at his eyes. Um, he is a songwriter.
She just can't even believe. How like how funny is there,
like totally falling in love. There have a lot of

(01:20:27):
eye contact. And the first time ever they're in New
York City and they take a trip to Greg's realistic
realistic and it's probably expensive apartment in New York City,
which is what most people like. It's hard to you know,
and the look on her face when she was like, wait,

(01:20:49):
where's the bedroom, She's like, this is so where's the kitchen?
She's like, it's a kid like she clearly never lived
in Manhattan before this. Poor people call a studio. She's
also probably in the land where, like you know, if
you live in a if you live in certain parts
of the country, you know that you can like when
I watch when I watch house Hunters, and they're like,

(01:21:11):
our budgets like a hundred and eighty thousand dollars, we
want like five we want five bedrooms. I want a
jack into the bathroom, open floor of concept, like like
the difference of like that versus like, Okay, you're gonna
live in Manhattan, You're gonna pay that same fucking price
and this which you get Like she was so grossed out,
it was incredible, Lacy, What did you think of her

(01:21:32):
reaction to his studio apartment? Okay, one, I do have
to say the house Hunter's reference made me think of
how whenever they go on there, they're like, we have
a five dollar budget. Me and my husband are both
freelanced dog walkers, and I'm like, how where we met
in a Tuscan cooking class. My husband like, nobody here
has a job. I'm like, who who has a job.

(01:21:55):
But to the point of her, I am on triest
a side on this because maybe you knew you were
about to be on the television and you couldn't ask
anybody to let you have an hour to to clean
your place up. It was lean dead rat the dead
rat and then him trying to find a glass on
the tap water like like clean it up, big anxiety

(01:22:18):
I would put in there. My pussy would have dried
up like the sahara just like oh my god, like
the panic towel like covering like a third of the room,
and you're like, what the fund is under? I don't
even want I felt for him. I felt, Yeah, I didn't. Yeah,
I mean I get why. You know, she maybe was

(01:22:38):
a little too aggressive with her outward reaction. You know,
it's fine if she felt she's like, oh fuck, like
I'm gonna get cholera from sitting here. But the thing
that um like, he's a songwriter, but his like lower third.
They would call him an importer sometimes, yes, what what
the funk was he importing used towels? It was like

(01:23:00):
I was like, imp Do you think, like, oh, he
must collect art or something. He had a lot of
like stray electronics, Like did you not see like those?
Just a random monitor connected to nothing in the corner
on the side table. Yeah, I was like, what is
all this week? I guess that's what it was like,
actually just a monitor such a bachelor apartment, Like I

(01:23:23):
feel like I've been in so many apartments like that,
and it is it does. It is a real like
Lady Bone or Killer. It is a full like just
lock it up and roll up, roll up the carpet,
throw the sound in and just dry it up. The
water to day like she's happening or was it just

(01:23:46):
never in the history? Is never? And by the way,
now most people aren't rich. They're all planning on becoming influencers.
No one probably is a nice house that's on the
show now it's it's like you just have to be
hot in a bikini. That's all that matters. They probably
don't have any money. And well I just noticed the
way she was like clutching that pillow for dear life Hello,

(01:24:08):
and he's like, would you like glass of wine? She's like,
I'll just have some water. How I got Then we
also had the stupid update from Cassie who was like
I can't say anything. It's like, but you still love
the publicity, bitch, and like, why are you keeping me
up to eleven pm? Do it either come out and
tell me something or does it let's just end it
even just play like like the national anthem or somebody.

(01:24:30):
I don't I'm so tired. I handwrite this to Herod
to be like I can't say. Then then get after
the TV Anna I did. She's she got picked by
Colton in the last liked him, but she wanted to me.
She tried to leave and then he jumped a fence
for her. Yeah. So they recently broke up, obviously, But

(01:24:52):
I really love how savage Chris Harrison was being like, yeah,
so that coronavirus he got was annoying, right, Like that
was pretty annoying. It probably helped you out to like
dump him, right, Like I was like, this is so savage.
He should be like, oh, isn't that COVID so annoying?
How we just got COVID and you haven't take care
of him. He has like I've done him because he
got COVID, right, And then she goes, well, I'm nervous

(01:25:14):
right now, and he goes, I can tell you're on guard.
It's like Chris Harrison throwing the shade at Cassie because
she was waiting everybody's time because you know what she's
gonna do. She's gonna be like I'm finally ready to talk. Yeah,
And then I like that he called her out for
like you're wasting all of our Like, okay, either come
on and say something or don't come on. Like we

(01:25:36):
could do a stage reading the perfect letter right now,
like this is way more entertaining to be honest. Yeah,
oh my god, Joseph, Joseph Joseph Middlebury. Please. So then
we have Charlie and Ryan are left and um, Charlie's
like a rich banker guy and um there's something sexual

(01:25:56):
there with him and um, and he gets upset. He
doesn't want her with anyone else. It's an active betrayal,
but he's gonna he's somebody that could take care of her.
He's like a Wall Street banker or something. And she's like,
I have a full heart. And he goes, but I
just feel like you're betraying me. And she's like, well,
this isn't double standard, Charlie. I've had sex before, I've

(01:26:17):
made love, and the same goes. We're guys in the
opposite way, um, and she just she's like, I'm not
gonna be defined by this, Like it's an important being
physical is an important part of relationship, and I'm gonna.
He was like, oh good, you're right, you're right, um,
and she goes, you could come back up to my
room so I could be alone with you, and he goes,
what would I do to you? She's like, what would
you do to me? Like he just kind of kept missing,

(01:26:40):
and then, um, that was Charlie Lazy. How are you
feeling about Charlie? Charlie lift like the worst taste in
my mouth. I was like, sir, you are a corny
corny for this. Also, when you said Wall Street, all
I heard, just like with Mama Sa, was cocaine. Cocaine.

(01:27:01):
That's right, that's right. He just seemed like he was
trying to flex too much, Like he said, there's only
two guys left, So now I'm going to take the
power back and be like, if you're gonna be my
woman and you're gonna be giving up that box to
nobody else, yes, yes, keep going lazy. I was just
gonna say. I was so glad. She flecks back and
was like, no, honey, that's not how this is gonna work.
She did, and she didn't even bad an eye because

(01:27:22):
there's been some bachelorretes later that really gotten shamed, and
like she was just like, uh, like step it back, like, yeah,
I have sex, I have a grown woman. I have
had sex. I'm gonna have sex. Miles, what did you
think of Charlie Dry? Dry? Charlie is dry? There I
was confusing him with other people halfway through it. Wait,

(01:27:44):
is this the same guy from her? Because all those
guys look like Keith Urban wanna be baseball players who
say the N word casually? A lot like that was
the vibe, Like when I would see the collection of him, like, oh,
this is my worst nightmare and they're in like the
vega sing and they're all like peering through that beaded curtain.
I was like, that's the last thing I want to see,
is like that group of faces peering at me through

(01:28:06):
it coming towards you. That white woman a plastic so uninteresting,
Like at least Ryan, there was at least things I
didn't like about more interesting worth talking about. With Charlie,
it was like, yeah, he tried to bite off more
than he could chew. He didn't realize Trista does not

(01:28:27):
play that bullshit. And he was like, okay, well I'm
back in check and it's like, okay, fall back. I'm
gonna give you a fun fact about Ryan. Ryan has
self published a book of poetry about baseball what okay?
So he so she's like he keeps writing her poems.
He's very sweet. And then he's like, I didn't write

(01:28:50):
you a poem this time because I didn't want to
just to be about my poetry. And I thought, it's
never just about his poetry. She's tolerating your poetry because
you're hot and sweet. Just smoke me for my poetry, baby,
No one never suck someone just for their poetry. That's
literally not ever. Never. She's like Shakespeare. It's literally like
he's so hot and he's trying. So I'm gonna be sweet,

(01:29:11):
but I have to read him and like like steal
my face to look neutral and excited. But like, you know,
it's not Anna Anna shaking her head, Tanna, what do
you think about the poetry? Ryan Man? It's not like
it was like it almost felt like I was like,
is this platiarized? I don't know, I don't know. It
was like want It wasn't good enough for me to
be like wow, what an artist? Like this guy's got

(01:29:36):
something else? It was okay. She cried once and I
was like, are these tears from just pain and discomfort?
Because are you really emotionally moved by this. I think
it was fake because I'll tell you she cried again
later at that when they when they zoomed in Ryan
when she hadn't seen him in like four days, and
she's like, oh my Ransier, like oh my God, Like

(01:29:56):
thank you Chris Harris. It's like you've been married for
like twenty years. Like I you're really tearing up to
see him on a zoom call, Like what are they
not talking? I just knew how to play it at
But also his part Tree was already boring. I'm mad
that he was like, how can I go next level?
Snooze a book? Baseball self Pelvis Baseball. But I feel
like that's our next book club book. We're going to

(01:30:17):
start with the perfect letter and then we're gonna go
to Ryan's baseball book. So then we so then they
they're like, she like I can feel something be there.
I needed to be there. I need to take a
dive into the water. And I liked when he she
gave him the fantasy sweet card. He goes check please,
and he goes I feel like the luckiest guy in
the world. I get to spend the entire night. My
heart goes pitter powder. I'm submerged in love. It's like

(01:30:38):
a warm bath. I want to spend the rest of
my life there. And so Charlie gets up first when
he arrives, and she kind of it was a little
trick RUI with him. She was like, when I first
saw you were the one, I thought it was like
from the moment I saw you, I knew you were
it and I felt that way all the way through,
and I was like, this is the guy, and so

(01:31:01):
I welcome this morning. It's like like like she didn't
have to phrase it like that, and she's like, my
heart is with someone else. Um, I Miles, what did
how did that feel hearing that? I like how she
just twisted the knife like that. Yeah, I like that
because I don't. I don't like Charlie. I like that

(01:31:22):
between the two. I like the guy who probably lies
it goes to bars and lies about being related to
the Randy Quaid like that's what, and like, yeah, fine,
And I like the I like the fucking B grade
poetry that I used to write when I was seventeen
in horny and be like man like girl, your name
is your body's banging like a selica. That's why I

(01:31:43):
wanted to date, you Angelica only be able to squeeze her,
but when we're making out, but hey, you know, you
get what you can take sixteen you're trying to be creative.
But with Charlie, he you know, it's I was just
rooting for. I was like, yes, I like this because
you know she I've really thought she was going to
get picked in her season with Alex. There was, at

(01:32:06):
least the way they were presenting it. Even in the recap.
I was like, oh, like, it seems like this is
something good here with trust because he felt like, really
like she babied me and created that maternal relationship that
all men with in edible complex seek. So this I
was like, it was nice to see her be able
to do that. And plus you get Charlie. I didn't like.
I didn't like to take of like you will only

(01:32:27):
have sex with me because it's interesting too, just like
how Alex is the first time being like I'm the
guy with all the power. Now, this is the first
time these men are at the at the like beholden
to the woman contestant, and that was interesting to see
how some of them were still trying to like be like, well,
but I'm the uh oh, but yeah, pick me, you know,

(01:32:48):
like sort of figure out what that relationship. It's amazing
how much shame she said she got for even just
being like, how are you going to keep how are
you going to be modest like like that? When when
she even just got named as it like, how are
you going to present well and keep you know, be
a lady like like it was. It's that people couldn't
get wrapped their head around the fact that they could

(01:33:09):
have a female lead, right right. Um, So then we
see so she picks Ryan, I only want to be
with you, and we get to see Charlie today. He's
in Phoenix and he has a one year old baby.
He's just fallen in love. He's just finally settled down.
That feels like a long stretch lazy. What did you

(01:33:31):
think of that? Yes, because, like I told you, he
had to get over his addictions. And yeah, that's really
had the personality, that's his That's why he didn't had
a personality on the show. They said no drugs. So
he was like, damn, which I want me to do? Yeah?
I don't know how to be interesting. Yes, I'm painting
all of this and now I have to say allegedly,
so Charlie, don't sue me. But yes, yes it's all allegedly.

(01:33:55):
But I feel like that I told you, guys, I've
made up this one producer that I think is there
who's like the one who's a little crazy, and she
probably don't work for the Bachelor of the Bachelor anymore.
But I feel like she told Tris to like, hey, girl,
when you let Charlie down, give us that up top.
All good, all good, all good. I bet that was
definitely And then but the end a big bat. You
got that big old but don't signal it up front,

(01:34:17):
don't let him know it front. So then Ryan shows
up and he and he goes, everything's right in the universe,
and she starts talking. First she goes, I have the future,
two dreams come true. I see a white dress. I
see it with you. Um, you stepped out of my
dreams and into my world. And she basically proposed to him,
which I thought was actually kind of like she let him.

(01:34:39):
Usually now they're meaner and they make the guys do
the full proposal, and they'll be like, wait before they
get down on one name. But um, she's like and
so when they brought him in and he's not with her,
and they're like, it was a huge announcement. It's a
huge announcement. This veil firefighter is now at the Denver

(01:35:00):
Fire Academy. And then she's crying. It was so it
was she's crying and they're the Denver their powerful, strong wind.
I just felt. And then Anna took a picture and
then their kids came out and their son, their son
was not having it. Don behind them, who hates hates them,
Who's like this, Like, Anna, can you put it in

(01:35:23):
the chat? Can you put a nature of their son
who likes sick of being their kid, their backcard actic
son who wanted to die. I didn't feel the heat
between he and right like Tristan and Ryan anymore. I
felt like they were sick of each other. I felt
like it's like and she had decried, Like, and is

(01:35:44):
it that big of an announcement If you're already a
firefighter and you're changing cities all of it, Miles, you're
shaking your head, what did you think? Yeah? I don't know.
I my heart kind of broke when I saw that update.
I was like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure,
like any relationship it goes on. Yeah, looking at the

(01:36:04):
photo now of who had to fucking quit in the
middle of his Fortnite game to be on the His
mom made him wear the outfit. I was down to
the last three on war Zone and call. At one
point the dad's like hey, buddy, and he doesn't respond
to moms like your father said, hey buddy. Yeah, he's

(01:36:27):
like again and he's like oh hey, He's like hi. Yeah.
It's like because I think the big announcement to that's
kind of bad about this was is that he is
now in Denver, which I guess is not that close
to her, so now he's like having a long distance
marriage with her. Yeah. I didn't understand that for the
time even that I mean it's like an hour and

(01:36:48):
a half. I feel like he's in quarantined, but it's
really two weeks or like three weeks like I've been
on located mean you know what I mean, Like okay,
so yeah, it was like he could be like a
really terribly hands off dad where he's like, yeah, I'm
gonna go do my thing, like good luck with that
at home. It made me sound like I didn't understand,
But the whole thing was like we have a big announcement. Um,

(01:37:10):
Ryan is on a work trip. Yeah, it is your
big announcement, announcing like a pathletic. Well, then they were
going to be like he has COVID. I mean literally,
I was like, what, like, are you having another bit?
Like what is happening? I get they were going to
say they were getting divorced. Truly, I was like, are

(01:37:31):
they like did they split up? That would have been dope.
You guys are a huge announcement. Ryan. What do you
think about that? Pal? I don't think how weird to
like show their love story and be like we fucking
hate each other now we're getting divorced. But crazy fairy tale.
He got COVID, so I kicked him out. Like if

(01:37:53):
you see your husband on zoom, though, you start to
cry like she's going bad. That's what we're talking about, happiness.
Your crying because you see him on zoom Like that
is that exciting to see? Um? Okay, before we do
Twitter the week, I'm gonna sell it you guys. I
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(01:38:16):
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We're doing giveaways every week. This week is this stunning
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we did a little Miss Little Compton tote bag. Next

(01:38:38):
week we're gonna do a t shirt. Alright, so get
it in early because every week we're doing giveaways. And
at the end of this Anna and I will have
the Zoom Lunch with somebody, the big giveaway. My goal
is to have if I get on, you have to
sell eight thousand books to get on the New York
Time bestseller list. Apparently. My dream is when we get
out of quarantine, is to throw a show like a

(01:39:01):
live party show to celebrate beyond the Best layer list
at my mom JJ's house in Little Compton, Rhode Island.
If my brother lets me here, we got the person
who Victoria Garcia, you won an elegant, very classy puzzle. Okay,

(01:39:21):
here we go. Will you help us pick the tweet
of the week tweet number one, so we're gonna narrow
it down to two and then we picked the winner.
This is from Kendra at Kendra Conda. Uh Trista is
every girl who goes home with a dude and sees
a mattress on the floor. That yeah, um okay um

(01:39:45):
from Lauren at Purple Underscore Hayes. Hard to believe that
the Bachelor producers can't find Alex Michelle, given that they
can find contestants, random ex boyfriends, and Natty B says
actual and factual. Yeah, they can find any anyone from
your past. You can't fucking find this guy. We just

(01:40:06):
found him in Lauren at Purple Underscore Hayes. So they
brought Cassie on to tell us nothing breaking news. Bachelor
ABC has outed Alex Michelle from the Witness production program.
Can he really be that hard to find? And Alex

(01:40:28):
Michelle pulling all of his fashion sense from the Matrix?
I go with Alex Michelle pulling all of his fashion
sense from the Matrix and that one was from um,
that one was from I'll tell you right now. Three
D Dorio at Josh All or I'm gonna say um,

(01:40:48):
Kendra at Kendrick Conda. Trista is every girl who goes
home with a dude in season. Matrix on the floor, Lacy,
I'm gonna let you be the deciding final one. I'm
gonna go with Mattress on the floor, Miles, Matrix or
mat might I might be the deciding one, but I'm

(01:41:11):
I'm all about Mattress. Okay, then we're gonna let Lacey decide.
Now are you gonna be a race? Are you gonna
be Matrix? Or is it gonna be Mattress on the floor.
This is not gonna be that interesting because I gotta
go with Mattress on the floor. Homies had a pornal apparent. Yeah,
what did you say? I thought Helie had a porno apartment.

(01:41:31):
She opened the door and I was like it was
like bound, like nothing good to happening there. Yea, literally
just due to the plastic sheet, and it was good
to go. Yeah, Mattress on the floor, Matrix, I think
because I I thought he was so Matrix. I'm gonna
go with Matrix. Okay, Matrix or Mattress on the floor.

(01:41:54):
Mattress on the floor because we've all right, Catana trusted
every girl with us some of the woldn' see the
Mattress on the floor. You guys, we love all of
your reviews that you just gave us. That I tend
to be love when you give us reviews. Here's a
good one. Five stars. We need Jerry permanently from Lynz Lucas.
I love, love, love this podcast. I look forward to

(01:42:16):
listening every week. You guys are absolutely hilarious, and I
love your take on one Poblos season and the realness
of the Bachelor recaps. Sometimes I don't even watch the
episode of The Bachelor. I just listened to your podcast. Also,
Jerry Trainer is one of my favorite hosts. We need
him every week. Thank you for doing two episodes every week.
I eat them up. Oh my god, guys, it is

(01:42:36):
our pleasure. We know that. I feel like everybody's just
doing the best they can right now, and like life
is no joke and just it's been fun for us
to record them, and we're happy that it provides a
fun distraction for you. How great is Jerry? I mean, Anna,
he's been such a fun It's hard to believe that
he just started with us in January because he's such

(01:42:58):
a big part of the show. Now. I know he's
great and he's so into it. It's fun. It's fun
to do it with him. And if you guys are
like new listeners and you're like well should I I
would suggest going back and starting maybe with JoJo's season,
like Aaron Foley, who's um, who's been She's having been
having to work, so we haven't been able to have

(01:43:19):
her on this year as much because she was writing
on one day at a time. She is so freaking
funny and she's on a lot of those early episodes
that again, if you're like jones ing for content, that
would be like, that's a fun season to start with. Um,
here's another one. Five stars from Our Girl, three D
do Rito, Um, Grief Cats and The Bachelor. That's the

(01:43:41):
that's the subject line. I started watching The Bachelor in
Ben's season, and thankfully I found Art and Aaron at
the time Eddie Peppittone shout out to Eddie, Annah, isn't
it amazing that we Eddie Pepperton watched Ben Nigin's season.
I don't think I would still be watching this show
if not for Arden and her bachelor cabinet of comedian
outsiders and experts who get their info only from US Weekly.

(01:44:06):
Not to get serious, but when my dad died around
the same time the Ardent's dad died, the podcast pivoted
to Grief Island. And it was one of the few
pieces of pop culture, along with Planet Earth, that were
comforting to me. This podcast feels like listening to friends
and will, except this Rose Twitter is my Twitter family.
I don't know a better fan community, and I don't
know a better podcast. Oh, thank you so much. I'm

(01:44:28):
so glad that it was helpful for you. I know
when when my parents passed away, like I I got
a lot of comfort both from doing the podcast and
I also loved watching The Great British Bake Off and Queer.
I so like to know that this would be part
of the pile for somebody. Makes me feel good because,
um you know, everybody just needs a little a little friendly,

(01:44:52):
welcoming distraction. Um Anna had. Anna's grandma passed away and
she showed up the Spring with Michelle. I remember like debating,
debating whether or not you're going to calm, but like
that always makes me feel better. It does. I canceled
everything like in my life except for this, and like

(01:45:12):
when you know, when when the ship hit the fan,
and like because I feel like your body knows, like
what do I want to do? It was like, no,
this is the thing that makes me feel good. So
by the way if anybody out there is struggling. I
think there's some early there was some episodes. It would
be last spring, and then in the summer there's some
I think that it might even be called Grief Island,

(01:45:33):
but you could probably look in the description. But if
anybody needs to hear a little something like a fun
cheer up that's talking honestly about walking through grief, it
is the only podcast about grief, Cats and the Bachelor.
Um And here's the final two reviews. This is five
stars or Monica s a the best show with the
top experts. I am writing this review in defense of

(01:45:54):
LORI yes, honey, how dare another listener come after her?
I've been watching the show religiously since Jake season, and
I listened to many Bachelor podcasts, and Lorie is the
expert with the most expertise. Every time I listen to
Art and Jerry and Michelle Collins, I giggle. Jerry makes
me want to watch I Carly, And if I ever
need to laugh, I think of Michelle comparing Matt tow
a cyclops. Art and I love your delightful appearances and

(01:46:16):
everything from friends to insecure. Keep on doing the Lord's work.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Monica, and
I mean one more from Jenny Jen Jen for seven
Justice for Lori five stars. This podcast might not be
for everyone, but it's one of my favorite podcasts and
I often find myself laughing out loud along with the
amazing guests every week. As far as I can tell,
my dog finds Arden's voice toothing. Thoughts on making Jerry

(01:46:40):
a permanent co host, um, I would love that. I
don't know if he would be available for that, but
like I, certainly it is never not an asset to
have Jerry Trainer on board. What do you think you'd
have to read all of the the letters? What is
his Chris Harrison's book Perfect Letter? We go okay, um,

(01:47:04):
and we love when you email us. This is from
um Pete Tongue and the subject line is you make
me happy? Well, thank you, Hey guys, I just want
to say how much I love your podcast. Right now.
It's been a long year so far. I just had
my second baby and I've been stuck at home a
lot with just her and the puppy, and they don't
make for great conversation for smoke. Congratulations, UM, so having

(01:47:25):
your podcast to listen to and talk to helps greatly
with my mental health. Yes, I joined in the conversation.
Being alone does things to you. By the way, I
don't care how factual you are in regards to that
other email you read recently, because I'm here for the
laugh out loud, the hearts and the joy. I'm really
enjoying the New Zealand series and your podcast, so thank
you for bringing that a little bit of fun. Side note,

(01:47:47):
I've been to New Zealand. I've done the asorbing thing
that they did a Poblo season. It was so much fun,
but afterward you're expelled from the ball. You're kind of
left wet, cold, and possibly with a boobanging out. Um.
She also is putting our hand up for being a
guest host. She's in Australia, happy to help judging all
all the awesome and Kiwi accents, plus my baby and
dog think I'm funny a lot. Loved you. Stay safe

(01:48:08):
and healthy, Peter. That's also a good reminder, Peter, you're
in the running for the the guest host. We want
to have listeners, so keep submitting yourselves for Peter's season.
We're gonna do it with fans it's gonna be fans
are co hosting with us. All right, everybody? What a joy?
Lazy have we have? We sucked you into that when
it comes back to the real season that you'll join us.

(01:48:30):
Would you join us again? Because we loved having you on?
I would? I loved this, This was so fun. Well
why don't you come do another one of the All
Stars and then you can decide and then we'll have
you on the main one. Yes, honey, this has been fun.
We loved having you on. Where Can People Find You? Yes,
you can find me at d I v A l
A c I Deva Lacey on all platforms. And I

(01:48:52):
have a podcast too called Scam Goddess and that's just
scam got us on any platform if you like robbery
like I do. It's so so fun, it's so great.
It's fantastic. Miles, Where Can People Find You? And Miles,
can I just say once again, the Rookie Rookie of
the Year is really giving Jerry Traynor a run for

(01:49:12):
his rookie money because you come in hot? Are you
coming in? I love reality. I feed off the garbage
that is reality, So you know, I'm lucky. I'm like
a Roach. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram
at Miles of Gray, and I have a Yes Daily
site Guys is my daily podcast. And also look, if
you want to talk about reality trash show, can you
want ninety day Fiance? Tune into my other podcast, four

(01:49:35):
twenty Day Fiance. I think you get what's going on. Yes,
you get what's going on. Yeah, not that it's even
that big of a deal. We're but yeah, we're high
and it's mostly just talking trash about the show. And
where can people find you? Um, I'm at Anna host
snam on Twitter and you know, check out Daily Site Guys,
check out scam Gods, check out four twenty Day Fiance.

(01:49:57):
You can check out my podcast Ethnically Ambiguous. I have
a podcast about below deck called Deckheads and doing Real
Housewives of New York. And we're doing Bachelor at New Zealand,
which is a fucking black and there's two batchel rets
and there is a contested on it who is a
stripper Chocolate tier dad um, which is a chocolate tier

(01:50:19):
on top of being a script and a chocolate here
and a dad And quite honestly, he's in the runt
like he could win runner. Yes, are you. Are you
all starting from the beginning on Real Housewives of New York?
Are you just doing current seasons? We're doing current season, okay,
because I was on Real Housewives of New York. Oh
that's right, that's right. What seasons scamming? I think it's

(01:50:43):
season seven. It's when Ramona has that fake restaurant, a
OA Barn Girl, and she interviews me and I'm a
full on criminal, but they just I was just taking
improv and they told me to make it up and
it's insane. I got dragged on Twitter and called the
bad black person. But it's out there. Oh my god.
Anything I didn't just write it down, like to go

(01:51:05):
look that up, you're dead wrong. I feel like I
don't know. I I was dealing with like Meryl Streep,
I don't know, like a huge I mean, this is
major stop, celebrity stop I needed. Was it all fake?
Did they tell you that they were just going and
like they just tell you to make shut up? Everything
I did was fake, but they were like, we think
it's so funny that you do improv. And I was like,

(01:51:25):
I didn't know, you're not supposed to do reality TV.
I was a young like aspiring actor in New York.
I would have done it. Yeah, just taken some classes
and they gave me free food. They didn't even pay me.
I was working at that restaurant. He was like, you
can have salmon for a week and I was like, okay, week.
So ever, week is a lot, Katie? Where could people
find you? I'm Katie Underscore money on Twitter and Instagram

(01:51:48):
and there's a lot of animals. There's animals need fostering
right now or adopting me, and there's a lot of
Because of the fireworks, a lot of the animals get
scared and run away. Katie, is there anywhere info you
could say about Just go to your city shelter and
find out if there's anyway that if you're looking to adopt.
Now is a great time where if you can't adopt,
you can always go in foster bitch a city shelters,
county shelters. Those are the best place to go. You guys,

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be kind to one another, where masks have fun, stay safe.
We love you, Lacy Miles. What combo I'm gonna say
this is I mean truly whenever we get together? What
what did joy? I loved this combo? We're gonna please
come back and uh we loved having you one. Thank
you so much. By oh yeah, I want to get

(01:52:35):
all up in here. Tonight feels so good. I'm just
gonna wander to bush. Where do you reach your world? World?

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