"WELCOME TO KNEEL LANE!" W/ Jerry Trainor, Paget Brewster and Brendan Smith

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Will you accept this Rose? A production of
I Heart Radio God. I didn't know it was possible
to be so horny on a Tuesday. So horny, it's like, Hey, America, Yeah,
I see you. You're looking good in that sweet. I
accept your roads. It's summertime in Los Angeles, finally so

(00:22):
hot that I'm basically not wearing any pants and and
you're gonna have to accept that. Are you accepting that?
I have permission to go pantless to my garage? Will
you go pantless today? It's really a jumper, but I
temmed it too short, but I'm shorts underfeet. Hello, Welcome
to the Fantasy Sweet, which might be the penultimate episode

(00:44):
of any bachelor, Bachelor, Bachelor, I've gotten a new accent.
My name is Ard Marine. I'm coming to you from
my boogie garage in Los Angeles, California, where it's now
officially summer in February. I am so excited to talk about.

(01:04):
I mean, fantasy suitets are here and the the producers
have taken up their evil and notch and it's a
whole new version of fantasy Suitets. I'm just gonna introduce
He's gonna break down the episode with me. First of all. Also,
Tanna is not with us this week. Hi, Tanna, we
miss you. She's on the road. She's touring with her
podcast that she produces, The Daily Night Guys. I think

(01:25):
she's in Minneapolis. I don't know. Check it out there.
They might be coming to a city near you. To
my right is a man who I only know in
rush T shirts and he does disappoint I didn't recognize
him without his mustache. Um. He has a wonderful podcast
called the Brando Cast, which a bunch of the people
from our show have done. I've done one. You can
catch it wherever you find podcasts where he breaks down

(01:48):
a musical album and he uh with his guest. He
picks a different album for each guest. It's a great format.
Ladies and gentlemen. Brendan Smath Brandon. I was supposed to
record one of our other gifts on Sunday, but my
producer got coronavirus. Serious but he's got he got the flu.
Paget you're supposed to do. But are you gonna have

(02:10):
you rescheduled? I hope, well we will as soon as possible.
Um Across from me is a woman who looks so
cute today in her ponytails. Um, she's I feel Its
just me. Oh, I feel like I saw I feel like.
I turned on my television and I saw really great
eyelashes coming at me solving crime. The other night and

(02:31):
I watched like ten minutes of Criminal Minds. You know
her as our secretary of State. You know her from
Criminal mind you know her from another period, you know
her as my best friend, Paget, Prowster, Padget. I'm gonna
wait until we introduce our final guests today. You said
one of the funniest texts last night. We we get

(02:51):
a lot of group texts going. There's a lot of
different threads that happened from this podcast. Here we go, guys,
I have to say he's our only male rookie, okay,
and the response that we've gotten, Look, I'm gonna assume
that this is what you're best known for. Is like
your your work as a rookie is so top not.
You might know him from us, You might know him

(03:12):
from I Cary, you might know him from Drake and Josh.
You may know him from our show on CMT. Still
the King probably probably not most definitely not that definitely
not and if you do, I'll send your T shirt.
If you can prove it, I'll send you a T shirt.
But the response we got from you as a rookie

(03:34):
was so welcoming everyone. Your Debbie Ryan was our first rookie,
and then we have Beverly de'angelo was our second rookie.
Two great rookies. But you are our first straight mail
rookie or any mail rookie, and you people love you.
Welcome to the franchise you built up. Now, this group

(03:58):
generally I rotate groups sometimes, but this was such a
powerhouse forsome here, this this group, really you didn't know
each other before you did the podcast, Like and there's
been a thread happening many Monday and tuesdays going on.
And Paget send a text last night that said, I'm
kind of dumb, but I'm very sexy. I said, I'm

(04:19):
kind of dumb, but I'm weirdly sexy. Yeah, well there
you go. It was so incredible. It made me so
happy you did you mention Paget's eyebrows or eyelashes lashes,
because we're going to have to talk about Maddie's eyelashes. Yes,
it looks like her eyeball. Await, Yeah, we got starting positive,

(04:41):
I love you. Yeah there we got there but her
but paget your I got whatever whatever that I got there.
I had to ship it to New York because they
won't send it to California either because it's dangerous. No,
it's copyright and I don't know latis or something. I've
only used it a couple of times because my eyes
are very sensitive. But I have to say I feel

(05:03):
like they've it's really been working. It works. I feel right.
I can see your lashes. Um, they are growing. To
a woman near me who I love very much. Tanna's gone,
um just for the week. Um, but we love her.
We're glad she's here. Katie Levine, ladies. Oh and before

(05:23):
we get going, I want to also just acknowledge how
grateful I am. Can I just say my book publishers
so excited that so many books have been selling. We
shipped out five T shirts last week. From that, we
pulled five for everybody. If you buy little Miss Little
Compton anywhere, you can preorder it anywhere books are sold.
Um here, it is here. It is beautiful. Um, um,

(05:49):
you wish I could read. Look, there's no words on
this topic. There's here's the book for you. There's no work,
there's no word. They mock up up the paper back,
the hardcover, front and back. It's making me feel like
an author. It's like a journal. It's a journal. It's
a journal. This is brilliant. That's it. You too can

(06:12):
be a little miss, a little competent. But if you
send in your receipt on our finale episode, I'm gonna
pill five more T shirts. And then when we get
to five hundred sold, were already had a hundred from
our listeners. When we get to five hundred, I'm making
a jigsaw puzzle of my eighth grade photo that's on
the back um that says I want a bone zone

(06:33):
with you. That you get one of a kind bone
zone puzzle that I expect whoever wins it to make
it and be a psychopath too, put glue on it
and frame it. So that is gonna be up. And
then when we get to a thousand that you've emailed in,
Anna and I are going to have lunch with two
people who have two listeners that have sent in their
to the received from Stranger Things. Look at her, look
at her, glow up. It should be a k A.

(06:55):
She glowed up, she discovered, she discovered the Democrats, She
got her, she got eaten by the pool, she got
you know, the end of the diving. Look at her.
You know what I love about this photo? And it'll
be on the puzzle. That s great. I think I'm eleven.
You know what I love. There's the confidence of the
pop collar and it's like, you know that, I feel

(07:16):
like I know I look good, like I know I'm
yelling it, even though there's no part of me that
like I look terrible, terrible, but like she feels herself
and I have braces on in the front cop great,
I actually had brace's made. All right, we're gonna get
to it. So again, thank you all. There was a
bunch more that came in this week. You're all in
the thing. We're gonna give him. We're gonna pick five
more away at the finale episode. Here we go. How

(07:38):
many more episodes are there? There's one more where they
he It's like, I think we're where she whoever somebody
gets cut and then the two people meet the parents
and she's like being a Rome, I'm assuming it's Madison,
but we'll get there. Then there's a Women Tell All
of the same night, though, I believe. I think that's
both Monday, you think, and then and then Tuesday is
going to be the Maybe maybe maybe it's Monday and Tuesday,

(08:01):
because Chris Harrison said in the thing in the finale,
in two weeks, that's what I mean. So I think.
So I think next week could be the parents, and
then the next day the final rust and then and
then Women Tell All Women on Tuesday, and then the
week after the finale, and then then after the final
rout next week is going to be one full hour
of drama the top at the beginning of the episode. Yeah,

(08:22):
and then and then parents. Yeah, no, no, it's not
the finale. Yeah, Women Tell All I think that'll be
Tuesday in two weeks, and then in two weeks is
the finale. Guy we don't know. And this is this
is terrible podcasting. This is like listening to your parents
trying to figure out how to pronounced Jerry Seinfeld. Sinn felt, No,
it's Seinfeld. Okay, here we go, fantasy suitets. Here we

(08:44):
are the Camaro Airport, the home of heartbreak and uh
Madison Okay. Overall, overall, I just want you to know
Jerry you've never watched the show before. I never have.
I'm confused. I I think I think there was this
there was once upon a time there was this amazing

(09:06):
producer named Ellen who really was a good at crafting
a narrative. And I believe he left three franchises ago.
I feel like I don't think Colton was with him,
and I don't think was the first without it. And
then Hannah and I think the franchise is not is
worse for the wear for it. And they've gotten meaner
because they're I feel like they're mean are both to
the protagonist and to the contestants, where they almost set

(09:29):
it up where no one will stand a chance, zero question. Yes,
and this is a very and this is to Padget's
point earlier. Their new producers, right, brand new producers have
been put on this season. Correct. I don't know what.
I don't think he I don't think he was like really, Stue,
I mean, I think they are new people. Yeah, it's

(09:50):
feeling so it's feeling like, Okay, So we have Maddie
going and we all know that she's a virgin, and
she hasn't told him yet, and we sort of all
assumed that she was going to go tell him at
that moment in time, like, hey, I know it's fantasy
sweets coming up, and we all assumed that was the
chat she was going to have with him, and then
she went and started with my faith is everything to me,

(10:13):
and she goes, um, what is it? What is it?
She's like um, and he's like, you're scaring me, and
she's like, I have to be honest about who I
am and what I feel. And next week, and this
was the slight step to the left. If you were
to sleep with someone else, it would be really hard
for me to move forward with this. This is really
important to me. And he's like, so, let me get

(10:34):
this clear. If I was to sleep with someone else,
She's like, it would be hard for me. If that's
the case, She's like, is that a no? So thoughts
thoughts on Madison, I love you up top positive Madison,
I love you. I would love to play basketball with you.
We played basketball today, however, great perfect you are on

(11:01):
the who and he boned four times in a windmill
last year. We know that that's that's my thing. She
knows who he is, that's right, and I see people, Well,
can we talk? Go ahead? Jerry has Jerry. Here's what
we love it. Here's let's praise Jerry's. I don't dare
go into any reddit because I'm scared of it. And

(11:24):
he has a he has a rookie who drank the
kool aid and you're in but you don't read spoilers,
but you are deep and you're you're like what is want?
And I see the negativity and I and I get
it because look, I look at the final three and
I just don't I can't imagine a world where he's like,

(11:48):
I want to marry one of these people like this
is and for many, many weeks, he's been in a
blender for two months. Yeah yeah, and he's got the
pressure of being the bachelor. I and he's on a show,
and he has a head rose. He has a head wound,
which I think he was pretty bad, which actually, this
guy can't get into a golf cart without wounding his skull.

(12:08):
I also do think these mean producers up top did
a huge disservice to their bachelor by bringing the available
Hannah be back twice, and I think it really messed
with him in a way where I think he's a
sweet boy who is a good guy and means well.
And I think Whiz truly felt like he could go
do this because I think he truly did fall for Hannah,

(12:30):
and these Macavillian producers, they just they sucked him out
of the gate that you know, that jangled him so
hard that he couldn't regain his footing. But I think
also the jangling was it jangled the women so much
they pulled away from him well, and then he kept
getting They created this Petrie ditch of rot from the

(12:51):
beginning by bringing Hannah back over and over, which is
not his fault. I think. I think he is earnest
and just like, wow, I do what do I do? It?
Also so so Matt. Of all of the women, to
Jerry's point, the three that are left to me, his
best match, I think is madest. I think they seen
the most great. I think they seen the most natural.

(13:12):
They seem really I think the problem is on the show,
so I couldn't. I was trying to think about this
today as I was gathering my thoughts from my very
important job here. I was trying to figure out did
they have another one on one that was not just
the first date to his parents house they had they
had another one on one where did they go? I
don't remember, but I know they did because they kept

(13:34):
talking about his parents house. Remember, like they were at
dinner and they kept bringing up his parents house. And
but was it or was that one where she like
one thing at a group date? Like did she get
a second one? Because I was trying to they definitely
had like time together because it felt like, I'm trying
to think if I am her and I have this
big sort of secret that's important to me that I
need to share. I'm trying to figure out. You can't

(13:56):
do that on the first date. It's too weird. I
would scare him. But it's something that at I was
trying to figure out if she had an opportunity. They
had the opportunity together alone and her ultimatum. She had
the opportunity to say, I know this is who I am.
It's she had the opportunity to say everything we heard
last night. Yes, that was the moment to do it. Yes,

(14:18):
she had the opportunity. Do you think her producer screwed
and was like you know me, yeah, please, Brendan. I
always feel like the producers are in everyone's ear at
all times. They're in Peter's ear. There in her ear
and I love I love love love love love love
shots where you see them lurking in the background. There

(14:40):
was a lot of last night, and there were two
lady producers trying to deal with Madison. Last night we
saw that I didn't see the ladies. There were two
just kind of like scuffling off, but they're in their
ear the whole time. Plus there's booze but she doesn't drink.
But she doesn't drink. No, I understand, but I'm talking

(15:01):
about with everybody else. Go ahead, no, you go. I
was just gonna pile on what Brendan said. Look, Madison
is a ray of sunshine when they get together, she
looks like she's just the most fun like she's got
that great she's she's light, she's drama free. She feels
like a real person. But what is she doing on

(15:22):
this Show's question begin with I wonder if she got recruited.
I wonder because there's some because we know some contestants
that were like that. I feel like Alex Russian Alex.
I feel like there's certain people that applied, certain people
that their siblings applied for them, and then there's certain
people that were like, oh, they came and found me

(15:44):
because my friend was doing it, and they said, like
they got me too. I wonder. I'm curious listeners, if
you know how did she get on? Do we know
if she had a significant Instagram presence before the Bachelor?
Good question rooting tool that they're using. Was she somehow
blind to the fact that he's the bankmaster general from Milltown?

(16:08):
Three episodes talking about this guy's Scanina, and then she goes,
if you sleep with someone that's going to be a
problem for me. It's like, what are you talking about
that he's a Hornballs made a sound like, oh, I
would be jealous. Like if she had said from the start,
I'm a virgin, this is important to me. Yeah, I
think he would have taken away differently if he knew

(16:29):
the whole journey. She was not clear, And I do
think you're right that probably maybe she did want to
bring it up earlier, which she should have, because if
this is something that's so important that she couldn't marry
a man who didn't agree, that's something you bring up
on like the second date, unless you're scared of getting bounced. Maybe,
but like, don't you want to know what it feels
the same way, but maybe the producer stopped her from

(16:50):
bring it early on. But last night she had the
opportunity early on to bring it up. She did not
do it at the dinner table. And also because I
think she's so scared of it because I know her sexist,
like this insanely huge, scary thing, and so she just
couldn't even bring it up. I think she like like
but I get like, I get that she probably know
I felt for her, or she was like, I know

(17:11):
this isn't necessarily thought I was like cool, or like
I know this is out of the norm for this,
and like I got her feeling like I've tried to
kind of roll with it and like and I don't
want to be embarrassed about it. I can see not
under not knowing how to bring it up, like knowing
that it's something that's different about you, that is going
to be a thing that's like normal to you, but

(17:33):
like it's gonna be like I'm not a big drinker,
and like I remember going on dates with people and like,
but like people sometimes are like freaked out if like
like that you know it's like something that you you know,
and some sometimes I would just order drinks just to
like order drinks to like kind of have it, but
like it's something that just makes it that you don't like,

(17:53):
you don't it's awkward to bring up, and then you
don't want it to be like a thing with people,
you know, I think in the fraternity and so we
already sense of the words. They are a match to
your point earlier, Jerry, well, they look like they look
like a match. They look like Sigma Kai and tried
out they're going to the spring formal to more than

(18:15):
than him and Victoria and more than Peter. Yes, yeah,
it was hard to watch her choose that path of
what she was going to tell him. In my mind,
like we all thought she was going to go say,
look it's fantasy suitets. We all thought I was gonna
be like on her, like I can't I can't be

(18:36):
intimate with you, but I want to go spend time
with you, but just so you know, like going in
like I can see that, but then it is the other.
But that it's like, think, do you think if she
had said, hey, Pete, I'm saving myself, do you think
he would have been like, oh okay, I can take
that Rose. And yet she's still here. She hasn't. Yeah,

(19:00):
I just I know I was wondering that. I don't
think we just I think he would have said, like,
what can you do? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah,
what can we if you? Are you cool with being there? Yeah? Nothing? No,
I think she says nothing. I think she said nothing
because I think some people are like, they find a

(19:21):
lot of loopholes. Yeah, I think this is a this
is a we're drinking. The entire family's toasting with sweet
tea and wineglass of ice and it. This girl has
never been fingering. I yeah, it's not that I'm staying
a virgin and you can put it in my butt. Yeah,
I think she's nothing. But I do want to spend
just a second her too, because I understand. I think

(19:47):
you're right. I think she was afraid if she said
it too early, I'm a virgin, she'd get bounced. And
I think that the producer said that. I think the
I think when she said, if you're intimate with the
other women, I don't know if I can move forward. Okay,
that's fair for her to say, because I also think
she was clear and she doesn't know that he's telling

(20:10):
those other girls, I can see you and me at
the end of this, I'm falling in love with you.
She thinks she's the only one. He's saying that, so
what she's saying to him is And then when she said,
if you're down on one knee asking I got six
days earlier slept with someone who she doesn't even know,

(20:31):
it's too I was waiting for her to ask which
one you would have to say, yeah, that did me
dirty by night three? Yeah, So she's I value her position.
I understanding why she's I don't know why she's on
the Bachelor, but I think she fell for this fairy.
She's twenty three years old. She phrased it like that,
and again we're way ahead of ourselves, but I have

(20:53):
when she did phrase it like, if you're proposing it
eight days and six days prior you slept with one
or two people, Like when you phrase it like that,
you're like, that is crazy, that's crazy. And if and
if she's thinking, you told me you love me, so
why do you still need to sleep with that If
you're in love with me and you know you're in
love with me and you want to marry me, that's unfair. Though,
that's not that's not even a game it's humans, like

(21:18):
humans need the intimacy. How can you know if you
love someone without that's part of it. You gotta test
drife your words, not mine why but if said but
if you're tire, But if you're a virgin, you don't know,

(21:39):
you don't know, then you tell him, oh, I'm a virgin.
I don't feel comfortable. If you didn't like fucking anyone else,
and you know, then that's his decision. Because if she
had really clearly you don't think she was clear enough? No,
I think she was clear. She shouldn't walk the virgin.
She was clear. He kept he really like, I you know,

(22:00):
he kept saying like, well, you know, so you don't
want me to go I don't know, yeah, confused. I
thought she was clear, and he was sort of like, wait, what,
like are you serious? And then I think she backed
down on I think she got nervous. Yes, I think
she started off clear, but she never got fully there

(22:22):
because then she kept like, I don't know, I don't
know if she had just like said the second conversation
the first time that was so clear, and she just
like she got really scared. And I don't blame her.
This is a big thing for her, but like she
should have wrote it down. She should have like literally
took out notes and like this is what I'm gonna
say to you. And then it's like, especially with dudes,

(22:44):
no offense to you, guys, you have to be so
fucking clear we are, like you have to just be
and especially with something this important to you, you have
to just like be straight about it and clear about it.
They still would have gotten jiggy with the other two, right,
great what Victoria was doing there, because I think Victoria's

(23:10):
got the best talk like a dude. Yeah, yeah, please,
It's the only thing I can understand in this room. Men. Men, men,
She's she's got the best body of the bunch. Uh men,
will put up with X amount of crazy amount of hot.
I mean that's the thing that as evidenced by this season.

(23:32):
I mean, like it's all the Victoria f story and
she's got a body that drives him crazy. She's hot
and she's beautiful, and she's like that kind of crazy
that you know, is like crazy like at dinner is
fun in the sack, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
want you. Once said to me Arden Marine and the
Year of Our Lord two thousand three, when I dated

(23:52):
someone who you knew and I knew I knew them
because I dated him. You and said, oh, she's gonna
break you in half. And I thought about that last
night when I was watching Peter with Victoria. I don't
think I meant him that dirty, but there you go. Yeah,
she looks like she's great in that. Of course, you know,
I was actually thinking that. I'm sure it's porn and performative,

(24:13):
and but she also has that sort of it'll take
her years to actually have an orgasm with someone if
she ever gets choke. Yeah, oh she'll let you choke her.
She's down for whatever it is. But then she's got
those those Disney eyeballs that if guy wants to take
care of. She's the lost princess. It's not all dirty

(24:35):
sex sex. She's she's like an alien. She you know
when the you know, the predators actually made the aliens
so that they could hunt something impossible to kill. That's Victoria.
She's like seductress. How glad are you that? I was like,
I hunted you down on the text and I was like,

(24:58):
have you ever watched The Bachelor? You're like no? And
then I made you do it? How fun is that
it's super fun. You've ruined my life. It's so fun.
We have a hot and I just I want to
say one thing, just just because I think we're talking
about Madison and it's people are saying that, you know,
she's allowed to set boundaries, and I appreciate that about her.
I don't care you know about her religion or that

(25:21):
she's saving herself. If that's what she wants to do,
that's great. I understand that. But that's a two way street.
And he's allowed to set his boundaries to and say,
I can't fall in love without knowing what this aspect
of love is like. And I think a virgin doesn't
understand that. She doesn't understand how important that is to

(25:43):
someone who isn't. If she was capable of getting jiggy,
she's the clear front runner exactly. That's the point. Okay,
here we go, Okay, okay, here we go the start
of the beginning, so we were still an airplane hanger.
So here we go. Let's always get to Australia. Well
that we had to get the argument and out first
because it was the crux of the inter Okay, so

(26:03):
here we are. We're in Australia. We're in the gold
which is not on fire. It was on fire. Can
I just Asktally on fire? No, it was before the fire, dude.
It was during the fall the fire started because I
looked to see when I first donated to like help
the animals there, and it was in September that I donated,
so it was like you can see the haze and
you could see it was like way too golden. I
think it was on fire, but it just wasn't that
bad and that close. Because I loost, I was like,

(26:24):
when did they start donated? I donated in September. I
did too for the Koalas hand of the Koalas. Then
why wasn't it Why didn't any of the dates include
going to save Kualas because that's what play out the
ad for I f AW. I was like, oh my god,
good for International Fund for Animal Welfare with like good
for you guys could love that. It made me so happy.

(26:44):
So we're in the Gold Coast. By the way, anybody
out there on Patreon, we've been. We've been were almost
at the end of goal of Bad flor Australia. We've
learned all about the Goldie Boys. So the Gold Coast
is sort of like it's not quite the Jersey Shore,
but people are like, oh, he's such a goldie boy.
Like a goldie boy is like a party boy, Like
the gold Coast is like where you go to party,

(27:06):
you get spraight hands, you go get hammered, like you're
goldie boy, you're a goldie girl. And like we've heard that.
We'd find that on all of our Patreon Bachelor you know,
you know what, goldie boy. Mattie was such a goldie boy.
So here we go. So we have all the gals. Okay,
so here's where I want to say extra extra where

(27:26):
the producers are the devil normally on fantasy suits looking
at me rookie every time. On fantasy suits, you basically
never see the other women again until the Roses Golaud.
So like you would be in your own individual villa
like Sandal's Jamaica. That was confusing today. Yeah, So normally
you would be you would be like you would be

(27:48):
like Sandal's Jamaica, and you'd have your own independent like
little building condos somewhere you had a villa. You would
have your own private villa and then like Victoria would
have her villa on the other side of might, but
you wouldn't never cross paths ever, never ever wanted the
girls to dish well. They wanted Maddie to crack, so
they wanted to They knew Maddie couldn't handle it, and
they knew these ladies would both be rolling in at sunrise,

(28:11):
probably having gotten bones, own fever and um, and they
knew and they also normally it's unclear like in your
brain you're like, oh, maybe they spread out sleeping with
maybe they have like a day or two in between
each people. None of the women ever knew at what
point he was going on dates with anyone the course

(28:33):
of five, six, seven days. It wasn't like, Okay, your
next go lock out the door, but you're you're in
the like waiting room for the audition and one chick,
we're ready for you now. And it's also doing like
so they know what and they also knowing like who's
been like as far as like sexually going like well,
in theory, let's just assume it all happened like in theory,

(28:55):
he just boned Hannah and and next the next night
like that's when really think about it, even for not
like a super Christian gal, you would not want to
be Night three, like that's gross. So they wanted two
women to come home and be like damn four times. Yeah,
that's so like it's just kangaroo in then we got

(29:19):
freaky my brother. I've learned my brother and now he's
been watching. It was like I don't want to like
bear my soul in front of a kangaroo, like just
like okay. So they're all staying together, and I feel
like that was extra men of the producers and it
felt really sister wives because it was one that came
back and like somebody goes, hey sis. Oh was that

(29:40):
when Koria came back? So I think hannah Ann came
back and Madison said, hey sis, someone There was a
lot of few times this conversation, Okay, we take a
quick come right back. The eagle is landed and her back. Hi, okay, great,

(30:09):
can I police because I was so fascinated by this conversation. Please,
This is after you were saying before the break that
when when hannah Ann came back, Madison said, hey, sis,
a little weird because she knows she's just coming back
in the morning after spending all night. God knows what
they were up to with Peter Pilott when Victoria p
came home, Hannah, she Victoria p walks in and she sorry.

(30:33):
Victoria f walks in and she says to Madison and
Hannah Ann, you guys look so cute. And Hannah Anne
looks at Victoria and says, you look so skinny. Yes,
and Victoria's like thank you, No, no, no, that was
it was weird cute you look skinny? What is that suggesting?

(30:53):
And Madison is already like slowly melting dude, It's okay.
So he shows up and he starts talking in an accent,
and he goes, good day Sheila's, and I wrote down no,
and then he wrote this Sheila's landed. I thought that
was going to go the whole episode, and I was
ready to stop watching the Good Day Sheila's. I couldn't.

(31:19):
I mean, it really hurt my feeling days ago. She
catty grass. Are you doing Max? So, Hannah and is
first he shows up in his bathing suit, like all excited,
showing up in the like hey girls, like in the

(31:39):
middle of like He's like, okay, who's fucking first? And
she looks like terrified, and then he's like, we're gonna
speak in an Australian accent all day, good day. And
then there was like I also feel like they like
cheaped out on the days, like historically the fantasy sweet days,
they have like pretty great dates. This was like we're

(32:01):
gonna ride jet skis and like bone and a Hilton.
Yeah you know what I mean. Usually they're pretty good,
like fine to like a secluded beach. It was a
crappy beach though. It was like flat sandy wash. Sand
was rock. It was like a sand bar, yeah, more

(32:24):
of an estuary, like yeah, the sound of the water
was like the lapping water it made me cray was insane.
It was like that's all you hear. But I like
how when they got on one jet ski they just
let the other jet ski in notion they but he goes.

(32:44):
I also loved he was like and Hannah, Anna's actually
turned out to be very sweet, but it's still no
personality and he goes, He goes, Hello, Hannah. She's passion
for living life to the fullest. It's like with what
like like basically because she'll just do whatever you wanted to,
like okay, yeah, jet skis like this tiny little is
like She's like, okay, we're jet skiing, like it just

(33:06):
we don't know anything. She's a nice young lady who's
very pretty clearly been programmed by the pageant circuit, but
like there's nothing we know about her. But this is
my critique of every the entire thing. I'm like, we're
at the final three and I don't know what's your
favorite record? What food? They don't do that on this show. No, no,

(33:26):
no no. I was thinking about it. I was like,
every conversation revolves around how I feel about you and
how you feel about me, but there's no substance if
you're actually falling in love with someone, you're talking about
all those other cool things. What is your favorite record?
Oh that's hard, um growing up. You're gonna have to
take me to Hilton Jerry. When you are the Bachelor

(33:48):
Silver Lake and I'm producing, I'm gonna make sure that
we spend a day just talking about favorite records. Let's
do it Tacos shops in the valley. I'll tell you
my first The first seed I bought for myself was
a C. D C's the Razors. Yeah, pladies, can you

(34:13):
leave the room and I gotta do this. We gotta
give the entire song better never chair, Wake ye Dadger,
What was your favorite album growing up? Eighth grade? Eighth grade?

(34:35):
I can't when did come out? That was my favorite?
Great album? Great album. I'm fifty two. I was in
eighth grade. I feel like when I'm fifty, so I
was in sixth grade. That's fair. Brother. I loved older
brother gave me talking head, stopped making sense, and I loved.
I loved your favorite Van Helen One. Probably yes, Hello

(34:59):
nest my high school, high school, high school, I went, Hello, Nasty, Positive,
take ill communication, all of the great You guys, if
you don't know the BC boys out there, can I
just say do yourselves a favor and just download particularly
early their first four right, I feel like there's a seminal. Yeah,
they're they're they're a blast. They're just they're blast. Okay,

(35:22):
we're back, Okay. One last thing, which is Jerry. All
of these dates, especially at the end, our action dates,
they don't they don't talk. There's action. There's jet skiing,
there's rock climbing, there's parachuting. It's just action action because
that's what hot people do in fantasy. But you know
what I'm saying, how am I to put myself in

(35:43):
Peter's shoes and try and choose one of these people
to marry when I know nothing about them and they
see all seem identically if they look hot riding a horse,
that's how you're supposed to make your decision. I'm doing
it wrong. Then you will see, you will notice, you
will begin to notice that you will only see glimpses
of people's character in bloopers. Yes, which is what I

(36:05):
was going to say. The only time was like like
each other. Yeah, when she likes any I think the
I think they talk off Mike about more stuff, you know, yeah, probably,
like probably, like in between takes, so like, hey, what
TV show do you watch? Game of Throw? I think
we don't get to see it because everything's condemned that

(36:26):
and everything is the best. So when Peter says, I
can't think of a better place to fall in love
than this flat, rocky sandy beach, Yeah, with the loudest
lapping waves circle slaps, you will enjoy Bachelor in Paradise
because there's a little more getting people, just a little
there's a little more human and successful, more successful marriages

(36:49):
seem like that. Okay, you non rookies, then let me
just ask you would you, as non rookies, prefer more
of that? Yeah, I think yes. I think the Producers
shows already two hours long most I think it's too bad,
though I understand what you're saying, as I think with

(37:11):
any reality thing. Also, people who are on them have
watched them, so they know how to play the part
of So that's why again we enjoyed watching Bachelor Australia
like things that are little like and now they're figuring
it out more there, but it's fun before there's in
the very beginning of reality TV, before there was the
template for the villain, and it was more interesting because

(37:33):
it was just real people like, oh, I'm being filmed.
Now people have grown up watching it and they know
the kind of conversations they're supposed to play, and they're
protective of their brands, especially as they get laid into
the game and they're trying to make up catchphrases and
they know that they're going to make up to two
million dollars three million dollars a year on Instagram. Yesep,

(37:55):
Danielle Lombard remember from NIX season like, she's fucking crushing
it on Instagram? Which one was she? We know Danielle Malpi,
which one is Lombard hot Delo. Yeah, I got it.
She was hot, Okay, So I mean, yeah, okay, still
crushing once you have that realization, though, I'm sorry you're
going through this phase and that's why you're good rookie.

(38:24):
That's why we like you. Okay, So we have So
then Hannah, who's such a will program android, she clearly
knows from one of the producers that they're like, I'm
sure the producers are like, hey, Medisine gave him an
ultimatum and it was basically like you can't, but don't
tell you didn't hear it from me, so she was
like so she was like so, she was like, Peter,

(38:47):
he loves it. Tear like the boner that's happening every
time a tear happens, a bone or angel gets its
angel angel gets his pilot wings and it's like he's
actually so you know him all in and whatever. You've
got to do anything anything, I don't care. I don't
need to know about it. Just go do anything. Nothing's

(39:09):
off limits. All weak. It'll hurt me, but I'll be
waiting for you. With Dune, like, I was like, oh
that that conversation has never happened, and you just naturally
thought to say, and then he goes, he goes, it's right,
I need to have passion with my person that you
often say my person hate it. And so there that's

(39:30):
when they're straddling in the water with the lapping of
the ways, he goes, this is true love? Is it?
Is it? It's the closest he's got. It's the closest
he's got. The three choices he's made. I feel like
he I felt like he's closer with Madison. But we're
gonna agree to disagree. Why do you say that because
he doesn't know everything about Madison, because and that is

(39:52):
a form of deceit. She didn't tell him that she's
saving herself. And if that isn't both ways, you can't say.
My faith means everything to me, but I'll hide it
from you. But the guy I'm gonna marry after that
hometown date with we put our hands on her when
she's a baby, and you do you think that he

(40:13):
really thinks she's not a virgin. She's so pure, sweet tea,
let's pray you get your special plates around. Like we
said at the beginning, men are big dumb dumbs. We
can't read minds. You have to be very clear your words. Yeah,
but if if, even if if you came to if
you are a courting Katie and her dad kept going,

(40:34):
she's very pure, very pure virgin. The dad wouldn't necessarily
know that. You do have a point. And it is
fair because if if that important to her, she should
have told him bingo, because because it is the sort
of biggest aspect of her life and walk away from

(40:58):
him exactly. And it's me he should have known earlier.
I should have been way upfront with him, because now
he doesn't know who you really are. I'm just drinking
in the passion of our rookie. I love that you're
on Reddit's come on, I'm just having trumpers reddity. But

(41:29):
they kill the liberals. They're weird, get made fun of. Um. Okay,
so here we go, so we have so then then
she spends the night and so he's like, oh, look
at this hot tub, and she's anxious, anxious, anxious, anxious, anxious,
anxious going into the evening. And she wore this crazy dress,
pink flowing curtainey, crazy high low. It's a high low dress,

(41:52):
but it was a bonker's highlow dress, and um, she
looked terrified. She did not look like an excited to
go rip his clothes off. She looked like, I gotta
go get this done. She terrified. Do you agree with Paget?
She looks scared. She kept saying, he's so anxious. I'm
so anxious, I think. But I don't think she was scared.
I didn't get that impression that maybe they like. I

(42:15):
just don't think she was so excited about it. I
also think she's really playing a part. Yeah, I kind
of do. I think she wants to be Bachelorrette honestly
out of all yeah, she's the only one that could
at this point. But she's so worrying. Well, I think
we see her personality come out more. I mean, I
think I don't know she's playing the part because I

(42:35):
think she saw that the producers early on were really
trying to play her and make her hill and and
she was like, oh hell. But I don't think she's
a huge personality. I don't know. I don't think so,
but she's I do think that she's super hot and
guys would really really want to go, but she's so young.
She did she did look like she did look like
I have to go get this done like it always.

(42:58):
It didn't seem like this was really exciting. She was
going to finally get to be with him. And no,
you don't. She didn't seem like she wanted to rip
his clothes off, whereas I felt like Kelsey, who just left,
wanted to rip his clothes off. She felt like, Okay,
it's time, we gotta go get it and make it happen.
I think they got in the hot get that from Kelsey.
You don't think that Kelsy. I feel like Kelsey wanted together.

(43:20):
Like they didn't like each other either. Interesting you think.
Do you think they used at night? Yes? Yes? And
how about that shot? How about the shot the like
Titanic hand on the door in the back of the
hand was supposed to be I think it was his hand,
like he loves to press her against the door. He

(43:40):
loves the press. He didn't it was her hand reaching.
I couldn't tell. Okay, so anything else before we move
on to her returning to the Sister Wife condo. They
got jiggy right, Yeah, yes, of course, do you think Hannah?
And yeah, they definitely did stuff. Yeah. I think they
got out of it. I think she got it did it.
I think she got at it. So she goes back

(44:01):
and Victoria's like yeah, and then um, and then she's
like Madison's having a hard time with that, and then um,
they're like okay. And then by the way, then there
was an ad are you looking for Loving your Golden Years?
Looking for seniors? How old is a senior? They have
to be over sixty five. It is a cast contingent show,

(44:22):
which is why I pitched The Widow or twelve years ago,
because they're only going to find a certain amount of
men who are willing to go on television. These are
people old enough to not care about the show the
Bachelor or do Instagram, So chances are we will never
see this show. If my mother was alive, I would
have I would have applied for her to be on
the show. She would have been such a lot of
older women would have a good time. She would have.

(44:45):
I don't know how many older single men who normally
don't survive their wife dying. I'm sorry, gentlemen, but yeah,
do you think yes? And I would want that show?
Women over sixty five and dude and a dude under
I'd say any women over fifty and dudes Okay, it's

(45:08):
anywhere you're saying this show is sixty plus. I looked
it up. It's for sixty five and over, and I
just think that's not ABC's target demo. So I don't
know if they're going to make it. I would watch.
I don't know if they're gonna really gonna do. They're
gonna make them jet Ski Yes, I did. Hope they

(45:30):
do all the same thing. You know, I would love
to see the episode where someone's like, I'm not doing that,
I'll break my hip. Like that would be great television,
but like sixty five is not nearly as old as
it used to be. Like that, I agree. Vitamins and
Supplement six, I agree. I feel like we could get
some hot sixty five year old's happening. I'm into it. Okay,

(45:53):
there would go to the fantasy sweet, Yes, Yes, I do,
I did, I do. I want. I don't think they're
gonna make it. I don't think that. I think what
they're gonna end up with is people who were old
enough and wise enough and have been around the block
enough that they're not just gonna pairt whatever a producer
tells them. Yeah, all the bikini shot. You know what

(46:14):
I mean, where's people saying this is part of my journey?
I hope they do it. Okay. So then so then
she says the anxious and then and then he said
to her again like a little bit. She was like,
your dad told me not to say it unless I
was But then I said it, so I must be.
I'm filing into this even though your dad, now you know,

(46:37):
like he's a little bit of a little twit. There's
a little bit of a little bit. She's kind of
a little bit um. And then he was like, um,
and he was like and then so they had the
jet ski I wrote jet Ski shitty dinner and fucking
is I just like that if I got hit by
a bus and this is the only idem iris carry

(47:00):
just it's my vision board. Okay. So then the other
in the penthouse, the hot tab, let's explore inside, um
that we have the door in the bathroom. Madison is
like losing her mind back at the condo. Um. And
then so she keep back there like, oh, so they go,
how's it going, Sis, how did it go? She's like,

(47:22):
it went really well, I'm excited. And then it was awkward.
And then so Victoria f was up and Peter, here's
the thing. You're a nice guy. You've been warned about her,
like you've been. People went out of their way to
hunt you down and find you and go red flag.

(47:45):
And he was like, she's been nothing but a handful committed, committed,
like like Texas, Like he's all in, he's bet all
his money on this, he's going to see it through.
But again, as I said, but for X amount of
hot yep, it's true. So he goes and then so

(48:07):
he basically was like, I want you to know, like
she as Anna pointed out and the internet, she really
gasol at him and oh my god. So then so
then she goes, I want you to know. He says,
I want you to have your back, and I totally
believe you, like like, and she's like thank you. Um.
And then and then he goes, here we are, we're

(48:27):
going on a helicopter. And she goes, I can't take
her anymore. I was on her side for a little while.
I can't with her hair, she's like. And then he's like,
she's an amazing person. She's got a great heart and
big old tennis that's it. And um, oh my god,

(48:47):
she's adorable. I mean she's a total cutie pie, and
he goes, well, um, there's fire here, and there's Some
might say there's fire burning in a relationship, but like,
I think it's just the right. Like he's like Hannah,
Hannah Bee with a bunch of handful. He likes crazy,
he likes crazy. He likes crazy, and she's very manipulative. Yeah,

(49:10):
as you know, my my superpower is the ability to
see a woman who grew up in an alcohol household
from a mile away. Yeah, I love it. Your mom
is a hoarder. Let's go like, that's all I'm saying.
He had. He's so has that he's drawn to a
little bit of crazy. Do you think he grew up
in an alcoholic house. I wouldn't say that, but I
wouldn't take his inventory. But I'm saying he's crazy. He's drawn.

(49:32):
He likes, he likes, he likes to apologize, he likes
a little drama. He's the one who's drawn to crazy.
I'm saying Peter is drawn to crazy. He's definitely, he's
an adrenaline junkie. He's a pilot. He's a pilot. That's
interesting too, Yeah, I think, But there's also a component
of I can save her. He wants to save like
he wants to be a hero. Here's but he's not

(49:52):
bright enough. Really, I don't know. I think he's he
wants to be exciting, so he wants to be around
writing anyone. Yeah, that's interesting. It's pilots. I want to
say this. This is in my book. I learned the
hard way, and you can take it or leave it.
You may not agree with me, honestly, and I wish

(50:15):
I knew this at like twenty one. There are no
fixer uppers. You cannot date potential. You cannot date somebody
and go. They would be so great if only if
only she wasn't such a hothead. We have such a
great time together, except for when she screams and clues
and cries, hides against the wall. The reality is that's
who they are, so if you got to take it
as is whenever in any relationship, it's like they would

(50:38):
be so great if only nobody believes in them enough.
They just someone to believe in them, or they just
if they just didn't whatever, they have a little tick
with pills or whatever. Like what you got right now,
that's it. That's probably what got always. I dated fix
many times thinking like if they just don't see that,
I see that, But when there was me, they're sweet,

(50:58):
Like if only they didn't do It's like it's the
whole package. You cannot eliminate what you don't like. That's
as is they're going to be like that his catchphrases,
because he asks her in one episode, have you do
you ever fight for anything? And that's the thing. I
think most of the conversations he's having with these women
are so surfacing and boring, so that when he gets

(51:19):
in these fights with Victoria, it is excitement. It's it's like,
oh my god, there's a dynamic here. Why aren't you
Why are you getting up? Why are you not fighting
for this? And he thinks, and he's trying to make
her be not who she isn't she's I think he's
trying to look cool for America. But I also think
he's trying to be like, why do you have to be? Clearly,
as we've learned, she's not a great person from from

(51:41):
everything we've okay, But it feels like and he's just
trying to like he wants. He's so attracted to her
that he's trying to be like, how can we just
not be meet you. Please, just don't be you like
and like, and she's like, I know, no, I'm sorry. Okay,
So just because she goes in the hell popped her
and she goes stop and then he goes, I feel

(52:03):
horrible about your family. I know it meant a lot
for you to come, but it meant a lot when
you came in surprised me. And she's like, thank you,
and and he's like, today is going so good. We
haven't fought and she goes yet amazing and then he cheers. Meanwhile,
back at the ranch, Madison's freaking out and and actually

(52:24):
confides in Hannah and which is a mistake. Who's looking
at her and she has her little cross off and
she's looking at her like what the fact when she
was like, she gave Hannah and an ACE card. Yeah,
she literally gave her an ice card right there you
could see. To Hannah and and was like, I can't
wait to play this card and then play it to Victoria.
She was like, I have high standards and if Peter

(52:45):
sleeps with anybody else, it makes me feel and she
was like wait, so then she's like to make or
break for me. And then she was like and then
Hannah Anne is like, we know what we signed up for,
Like what the funk with Madison And so then they
are at Songbirds. He's at Songbirds with Victoria f and
then um he goes, God, I'm so glad I'm here

(53:08):
with you. We have so much we I've We've shown
so much fight and not giving up. It's like, this
is a relationship that should not be happening, and you're
just forcing it. By the way, the arts department went
crazy with candles they did. They're like, there's like a
closing pier one and they're like everything was like bogo

(53:31):
but the pe I know what, I'm sad they did
the bogo like by one gallon for a boogeyman, the
boo boogeyman. So he was like, you know, the one
thing we need to work on is a communication. And
she's like, well I am how I am? And he's like, okay, Well,

(53:53):
she's like, well I know why I am how I am?
I had a past relationship for three and a half
years and he never asked me how he felt because
his wife was knacking. All let's bring it up now?
Should we bring it up? Now? There's all right, there's
Victoria allegedly when the woman came last week, Marissa, Marissa

(54:15):
came laster, I loved Jerry. Marrissa came last week and
Muli his next girlfriend, who walked up to him and
she she was blurry. So the rumors are, I will
let Jerry go. What are the rumors Rumors are that
wh why are you making me okay? Are? The rumors
are that she's been slept with a few of her friends,

(54:35):
whether or not this is true. She likes married men.
She likes married men and military, especially nanny guys and
I and she likes her friends married men and a
lot of married military men. Allegedly Virginia beach All allegedly
she is. The rumors are she's broken up numerous marriages.

(54:56):
She was like a total mean girl in high school.
They wrote a whole thing on Reddit, how like she
literally switched schools because Victoria was so Now he we
have to remember that he doesn't know this, Like so
we know this because we have Internet, and we know
this because people email this stuff to us. But he's
not seeing this. Although, to be fair, that woman Marissa,

(55:19):
she tried to tell him and he was like, but
she's hot, and I haven't slept with her yet. I
know he totally just broached it. She tried to tell him,
like she basically said, she breaks up marriages. The producers
new too when they recruited Victoria for this show. She
sounds like literally notorious alleged vir Allegedly, one of the
women that went with Marissa to go to stage the

(55:40):
Peter vention was apparently Lauren Ari's wife. Lauren her mom
apparently lives in Virginia Beach and when with Marissa and
one other woman to go like, I don't know why
Lauren's mom cares, but they all went down to the
set to go find Peter and be like this woman
is trouble and and you're a nice guy and you

(56:01):
need to know she's trouble and she does bad things.
And he was like, I don't care. I don't care.
It makes the whole relationship with Chase the Country Star
more like obvious at this point. Me remember the guy,
of course, tell me everything's trouble. Yeah, just through Wait,
so are you saying you think that when she was

(56:23):
referencing a three year relationship with someone who didn't ask
her how joker around. I don't know if he was,
but I would think that sounded like total b estimate.
That did sound like you I shot an affair with
a married man. We don't know. We don't know that
in that moment, she was being sad sad persons. There's

(56:47):
a reason for me being it didn't add up. I
agree with you, it didn't add up. I was I
didn't feel real. It felt like nobody ever asked me.
You will keep asking me how I feel, but nobody
ever did. I was like, I don't buy it, so
I I don't read reality. Steve spoilers, but apparently he
said that, you know, when it was announced to the
contestants were this year, he said he's never received so

(57:09):
much negative feedback about one person than he did about Victoria.
It just sucks because with Peter in the beginning, I
thought her first, even though she was a little cuckoo
crazy pants at the at the fashion show, she had
a very cute first date with him the chase. Rice
is the one I thought until like, she was actually
kind of cute and fun at the amusement park, and like,
you can see she had some personality. You can see

(57:32):
why she was fun and cute and like, and I
think you're I think your point, she at least there
was something going on. Yes, it wasn't just repeating phrases
and this is so fun, this is so fun. Yeah,
it was at least interesting and dramatic and there at
least talking about Yes, I agree, I agree. And then
it's I feel like as more of her. I feel

(57:54):
like she gave a good first day in which might
have been playing a part maybe a little bit or not.
But like, but I think there is a side of
her that is, um, a troublemaker who troubled. She seems damaged, troubled,
so um, it's it's just it's I think she's a

(58:14):
mean girl. Oh, she's absolutely a mean girl. I mean
everything that I've read about her from high school, she
was just cruel, Like I mean this girl literally she
said that she she just bullied her NonStop in Spanish class,
to the point that she actually turned all of this
girl's friends against her and this girl and switched schools
because she was just like it was like I was
crying every day. But can I just just so that

(58:35):
there's a positive side. I love her. I tried, I tried,
Victoria Well. I love her for television. I cannot wait
to see her on Bachelor in Paradise. Opposed to her,
she's going to be fantastic. I don't know what that is.

(58:56):
She's she's gonna be because she's also so hot and
kind of fun, like that's what makes her dangerous. She's
she's like Chad, she Chad was fabulous to the guy
who just got who just like punched his Girlfrid's wall,
he's great television. Okay, So so she's crying, I wrote
no fixed uppers. So then he goes, She's like she

(59:19):
had their bullshit things. She's like, you just She's like,
never asked me. She's like, he goes, spell it out.
He goes, there's nothing you need to work on. Ever again,
our chemistry is insane. It's like, well, yeah, that's why
she's here because I have a confidence. He goes for me,
I just need to know that I have a hundred
percent confidence that I can always count on you. It's like,
you can't. You're you're picking a home wrecker. That's never

(59:41):
gonna happen, bro. And then she and she goes, I
don't know. He goes, tell me, tell me like that,
just please don't take off. She's like this, I'm trying
this this thing that you're doing me up the wall.
I just I'm trying, but it works on I want

(01:00:02):
to throttle him through the TV like she's turning this on, you,
dude gaslight, because it works. She's got him wrapped around
her finger. I don't know. Why can't he see it
is he is his weener that and gorge pilot, and
he's horning and he hasn't been able to bone for
a little while. What is not in his head? She goes,
because he's got the he's got the scar. She goes.

(01:00:25):
She goes, I'm trying. I don't feel good enough. I
don't she I don't know what you want because I'm
not judging you. I'm losing her. I'm losing her sex.
And he goes. She goes, and then he goes, it's
just the two of us. I want you to truly
feel like you deserve all this. She goes, this is

(01:00:49):
so freaking real where we both had and then and
then he goes, wait stop, oh my god, this is
so sweet. And then she goes, I love him so much.
This is how you get a married dude to leave.
And then she's waiting for me. She's wiping her eyes

(01:01:10):
with her reformation dress. She's like like blowing like a
polka dot Reformation dress. She's wiping her eyes on her
nice dress, and she's like, I put him through me
so much, and I know when it to be discouraged
and uncomfortable. And then and then and then, um Maddie
meanwhile is like freaking out. She's like, I'd either be

(01:01:32):
heartful or heartbreak tomorrow heartful or heartbreak. That's back of
the ranch. And then she was like he goes so
then they like get it on and you know it
was it was a show like he had quite he
you know, she rocked his world. They used the room
they used may be a sex ramp. Could you do?

(01:01:58):
Will you leave your wife for me? In her voice? Okay, okay, wait,
I just like they don't know. I'm just trying, Like
I just like I felt bad, like like when you're white,
like like do you love her and me? I just
feel like I'm never enough. Like Kimberly's like a mom
and like I know she's a great mom and I

(01:02:20):
can't give you that, but like shes a key, I
just needs a little help with June's rent for me.
I want to tell the you are the listeners that
you can't see this. Arten is perfectly doing how Victoria
pushes back her hair on her back of her hand,
twirl hair to her long day. She also does have

(01:02:42):
beautiful hands. She's so pretty. She has barber streisand quality
her hands and all of that. And then they got
at it and he woke up and he was like this.
I thought it would be like basically like I have
joked off to this and my like, you know, like
Bachelor Hilton for so many months. He was like, I knew,

(01:03:02):
and now Victory lap like boner Victory Lap. Finally and
then he goes, and we were finally able to catch
a break. No, you mean you're finally able to get
at it. And then he goes. He goes, I don't
want to jinx it, but I feel like bring it
like that's like, you know, they did it five times?
If he did it four times with him, she made him,
Oh yeah, I had she beat that record guaranteed physically?

(01:03:34):
Or are you sure, baby good? I don't care if
Sam comes out, doesn't care. And then he goes, he goes.
I felt like I was falling in love with you.
She said, this was fully losing but no, I mean
loves you. And then he goes, was so connected now,

(01:03:57):
and she goes, He's just my person. I feel the
future with him, and he goes, I'm torn three ways
right now, I'm in love with three women. And she
gets back to the house too, you look so skinny,
and she goes, thank you. I have to use the
ladies room. I'll be right back. Great, great who I

(01:04:19):
don't know about you? But things again so hot, and
I think I gotta take I'll break and we're back.
We were just chatting at the break. I have to
say it and I and I you know him a
positive gal and I'm not trying to and I feel
for him. I don't think he's a great bachelor. Nope,

(01:04:42):
and I don't and I feel that I don't feel
and again I obviously love. I don't feel like we've
had a very good one since I feel like Ben
Higgins was our best one in the last five. I
didn't like. I didn't either, But we've got Nick was
had lost the will to like compete. Ari. Sorry, we
have Coulton who was like who was boring and like

(01:05:06):
and gay, and then now we have like these are
they need a good Bachelor. I've never really watched a
great batch except for in Australia. The Australian like Maddie
j is better than I don't think we've had a
great bachelorette since Jojo. Jojo was a great bachelor. Rachel
was okay. I like Rachel. I liked Hannah, but Rachel's
season was in the end was kind of a train
wreck because I felt like the guy she really wanted. Yeah,

(01:05:28):
I mean same with Hannah. Up until then, they were
both great. They've gotten younger and more pageanty. The paget
thing is not great. I think Peter doesn't know who
he is and he has and he's got these producers
that are really extra like in a bad way. I
think they should protect their lead a little more. I agree,

(01:05:48):
and I listen, I watched the show. I love the show.
To understand that. I just I'm not clearly we're watching
the show we're talking about. They're produced, the producers are
responsible for the show. I think it's just too far
and I think it's been destabilizing. I think their methods

(01:06:10):
border on cruelty and unnecessary cruelty, and that's my problem
with it. My friend Chris and I were talking about
that this morning, about um, sorry I ate one nut.
You guys please don't email and I had one nut.
I'm sorry, she said Victoria. But she even pointed out,

(01:06:34):
like as as he they screwed him over early on
with Hannah Hannah b She was like, remember when Hannah
was on, how they like had that guy come on
who had a girlfriend, Like each week they were trying
to destabilize her, who's already was like a little bit fragile,
and they were messing with her in the beginning week
after week, and like she like she couldn't get her footing.
And when you're messing with the lead, I feel like

(01:06:57):
it makes it. Maybe it's entered like dramatic TV, but
like don't you want somebody to actually successfully fall in
love and get married, not in paradise, it's not happening.
That's a good point. Maybe that's what I'm reacting to
when I when I'm when I think that the producers
are going too far. It's unnecessary. They are going against

(01:07:18):
the credo credo of the show. We haven't seen Neil
Lane in a while, Like but I mean, but I mean,
like Neil Lane didn't come for Colton. You know, like
Neil Lane like that could but I mean like they
don't have them getting a ring like maybe Neil Lane said,

(01:07:40):
I think this is this is no, you're you're you're
not in love. I don't think it's I think whether
or not's no, I'm talking about just getting a ring
and getting down on one knee. Colton didn't do it.
It's been too much drama. That's the bottom line. Because
we want, we want as a fan of the show,
we won't be able to fall up and we want.
We also by this point, Jerry Rookie, we know who

(01:08:03):
we want to win. Yes, we want, and we're invested
in combination that we believe is going to actually be successful.
Who did you want? A huge question. It's not happening.
It's usually the Bachelorette's have a much better success rate
of marrying, like the Bachelorette's picking or or or staying
with their guys for like five years like the Bachelorette's.

(01:08:26):
Generally last year was a disaster, but generally, and again
they were the new producers and they get a guy
that had a girlfriend. They used to actually the show
used to feel like they actually kind of wanted people
to find love and find relationships. And now it's just like, oh,
we just want good TV and we don't actually care
because they're going but that's going against the point of
the show. So the mission statement of the show has

(01:08:49):
been thrown over. And that's I guess what I'm reacting
to when I think the producers are going in the
wrong direction. Sometimes they're going against the best intentions for
the bachelor or bachelorette, like they're looking for a conflict,
not necessarily looking for love, and it's not And I
think people are noticing it because I see a lot
of people on Twitter, a lot of people and read
it like talking about this, and a lot of articles
going up that maybe they'll listen and they'll be like,

(01:09:10):
oh funk, people aren't liking this. Maybe we should, you know,
tone it down. Who knows. I guess we'll find out
next season. But it's insane. Here we are with Madison,
we go, Here we go. So Madison is I think,
realizing that he's now boned both of them because they
both came back glowing around noon the next day, and um,

(01:09:32):
but she rallies and she shows up and she's in
good spirits and she gives him a big hug and
a big kiss and a smooth and she's like, I've
missed you so much. We're going to climb to the
top of this gigantic building. I was worried they were
gonna have to scale the building. I really had no
idea what they were going to do. I think I
was like, did they It was terrifying to me. I
didn't like that at all. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't.

(01:09:56):
I didn't like that they're clamped to the that I
did that. I did that when I was in Sydney.
They made made me. I did that over the Sydney Bridge.
You it's ridiculous. Why did you do that? It's like
the thing to do. Why was I in Sydney? Yeah,
the Kid's Choice Awards And how scary was it terrifying?
Because I'm the railing is mid thigh for me, and

(01:10:18):
I'm hooked and you're hooked like they had like full
blown like climber's gear. We had like a little belt
with like a clam on a on a wire. It
was terrifying, That's what that was. To the railing is
so low. I didn't like that, just if I did
not like the whole thing. And I tried to do

(01:10:38):
stuff like that to get as immersion therapy to get
over my fear of fights. But I was asked to
do that Sydney Bridge and I couldn't do it. I
would never do it. Just doesn't. I would never do it.
It's not worth doing. That sounds awful. None of you
guys should ever watch Free Solo. No, I won't. I
do not for that reason. I'm not watching that ship.
So that sweating just talking about I had a hard
time watching that. I watched test that was hard and

(01:11:01):
I felt ill. It was hard. It was really hard
to watch. It's almost a brilliant metaphor. Oh my god.
So there was a guy with a crazy amazing hair
and a mustache and he had he had like a
middle part and crazy feathered hair and a thick mustache.
He was like, you're gonna climb this building, and I
thought he was just such a goldie boy, such a

(01:11:22):
goldie boy. So that so then they go up and
um and of course, uh. Meanwhile, back at the ranch,
Hannah Ann is tattling like crazy. There's water over there
and bottles if you want something. Hannah Anna is tattling
like crazy. She's like wait, what those are expectations and ultimatums.
You can't put him on the spot, like it's like,

(01:11:43):
what do you like? They're stirring the pot because she
made the error of confiding in Hannah Ann and um.
So they go to the top and they are making out.
They have chemistry on top for a long time. They're
making out up there. He noticed the way they were
making out. It was hot. No, their heads were moving
so weird. My pars and we literally rewound it and

(01:12:06):
we said it looked like two middle schoolers making out.
I don't know, like that is that because she doesn't
have a lot of experience. I guess, yeah, she dresses
like a middle schooler. She dresses like she she shops
a wet seal, she kisses. She's putting all of her
sexual energy into this will win you. Yeah, it was
because imagine what the rest is going to be like

(01:12:28):
when we yea, she was moving too much because I
think she thinks that's what I'm supposed to do. That's
how you just like in middles like a movie, like
it's weird. I did not notice that. I felt like
they looked like they had kissing chemistry. But maybe I
was wrong. They really went for it and she liked it,
he says. He says, this is the best feeling I
have ever had in my entire life. Quick and end

(01:12:54):
of the day after Victoria yes to producing yet again.
Reality producers know that bonds are formed between people when
they go through a thrilling or scary situation. How much
What did he do with hand with with the other girls?
What did he do with that in any way like

(01:13:17):
what it was meant to Victoria. He climbs up outside
of a building with Madison and they get closer and
it's like all hormones and they're making out at the
top of the building exactly, and then they go back down.
And remember on Bachelor Australia when Ali did the weird

(01:13:37):
thing between the skyscrapers. This is the scariest thing I've
ever they did on the Bachelor with this guy who
took he was Charlie. He they put it was windy
as all get out, and they had these two wires
between two skyscrapers and then there was like a third

(01:13:58):
wire that they some p a had to go put
like a cardboard twister game, and they wheeled them out
like whealie on like a wheelie platform, but it was
like windy and it was kind of like flopping around
without anybody on it. And then they wheeled them out
on this twister boards on this like between two skyscrapers

(01:14:20):
and they were supposed to play twister, and she lost,
she lost her ship and then she fell for the
equivalent of like Australian Chad. Like this guy sucked, but
she like was like in when when they because he
was very calm with her, and he was like, he
was like, you just lock me in the eye. She
freaked out and was like called the game on it

(01:14:42):
and like and but they're still stuck out in the middle.
They gotta get back and so he you can hear
all this on our Patriot if you become a patriot,
and they like and they like lured them all like
and he and she like felt for him and he
and they made it really hard. No trauma bonding, never
heard that term before. Trauma bonding is usually the term

(01:15:03):
when you go on a date and you talk to
someone about all the trauma in your life, like my
dad left when I was three and hard and then
my ex husband slept with the nanny. Oh, that's so weird.
Because my dad's the nanny to my ex girlfriend. Everybody
leaves me. But it works in the same way. To

(01:15:23):
your point, Reality producers know about it because that's how
Jake Pavilca ended up with what's her face? Leblonde. They
broke up afterwards and she called him crazy, but they
jumped off a bridge together. They set up whoever they need,
when they need. They set up a terrifying, exhilarating thing
to bring people closer together. Do you think they were

(01:15:44):
trying to adrenalize Maddie into possibly losing her virginity? Do
you think they were trying to like, No, I think
they were. I think they were putting him in a
position where now he's really gonna pay because he's really
gonna fall in love with her. I didn't doubt that
he's emotionally okay. I thought he would tell her. I
don't think he knew he was going to bone her,

(01:16:05):
but but he was really going to be like the
producers didn't think she would bone him, but they bond
them together so that he now really and I think
also to forget about the best sex on planet earthly
this morning with Victoria right two more times in the

(01:16:25):
morning I have to commend Madison. She looked terrified and
she powered she didn't for you, she did, and they
seem to have a great time that they actually are
the most natural couple. They really do. I like the suits.
I liked to want to go out tonight and silver
like in one of those suits. We could do that.

(01:16:46):
We get to wear a band together together. Yeah, hell
YEAHI cad So then okay, so then they she goes,
so they have this great date and he forgot that
he had the best sex ever, like acrobatic contortion in
his sex and um that morning, and they go and
they show up and she's in a seque dress and

(01:17:07):
the kangaroos are watching, and then he goes, I can
see the future so clearly. And then I never felt
what I felt today. And then he says I am
in love with Madison, and they split hairs. On the show,
falling in love is different, like to say you're in
love is like, that's wins in that moment, she's the
front runner. Yeah that's what I felt in that. So

(01:17:30):
then he goes, I'm crazy for you. I am like
that right there, and then she goes, she goes, um, yeah,
I'm crazy for you too. He goes, this was awkward.
She goes, look, I am saving myself from marriage and
um from my husband. That person he gets all of me,
my soul, my spirit, I'm his. She just did it

(01:17:51):
in the sexiest way you could say. She didn't see
that to him. She said that to the camera, right, No,
she said it to him. She said it to hi.
There was an addendum and the interview says he did say,
which was the sexiest way you could say, like you're
get at it, you gotta get it, and you it's
it's your, I'm yours. And then he goes and she goes,

(01:18:12):
and then basically he was like, I gotta tell you
so wait, this is like he told her that he
had been intimate, intimate, intimate. Well, but also first he said,
so are you telling me that if I was with
one of the women that you would walk away from
that you could give up, really, you could give up

(01:18:33):
a forever with each other. He'd be able to walk away.
And he goes, I can't, and then she said, I
can't wrap my mind around that. In a week, if
you were down on one knee, that's six days before
that you slept with someone else. And then she goes, look,
it's not comfortable for me to ask, and he goes,
I'm not comfortable at all right now because in his
mind he's got okay, But it was Hannah in the

(01:18:55):
was Hannah in the shower. Everybody in like the last
thirty six hours. He went outside in a parking Latin
because she's one of the Yeah, yeah that was crazy.
Oh oh wait, we went down with a craft service
late at night. Knows that I did her on the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he knows that. He said so much, so many different
women in the last thirty six hours. I think we
got the passenger van while down and we have to

(01:19:24):
find a mini golf place because so we could do
it in a windmill, the only way it works for me.
And and she was like, like, I'm trying to put
myself in your shoes and I don't want to feel
like a bad person for having standards, and she goes,
I voiced it to you. I felt like if you

(01:19:46):
were thought I was worth it, you would still be fighting.
And he was, I have been intimate. I cannot lie
to you about that, and then and then he said,
I can see you and I together at the end,
but I can see it with other people too, which
was in her staying. I was like, fuck yeah, I
will funk whoever I want. And then um she starts
playing with her hair and she was like, excuse me,

(01:20:08):
and then she starts crying, and then she was like,
I'm pissed at him. I'm hurt. I let I feel
let down, um like, and he could lose me and
he he did it with them anyway. I'm so mad
at him. I made it clear, and he was like,
I can't lose you. I know how tough this is
for you say something. She's like, I'm hurt. I can't
change who I am. I don't want to feel bad
for having these morals. And then he goes, I don't

(01:20:30):
think that you don't think that we could ever get
past this. He's like, don't walk away. I know I'm
not perfect. I'm not even closed. Please don't walk away.
If you could see me together for a future, police,
I'm sorry. He just to walk away, and it's not
like bring her home to me, Peter. Her face did
a thousand things during that whole secion, like as soon
as it squent sideways on her, as soon as she

(01:20:50):
realized like, oh, I'm no longer in control of this situation.
Her face. I just watched her face. I mean there
was scrunching, there was lipping teeth, there like eyes going sideways.
I mean it was really compelling. She was heart heartbroken,
her heart holding her head really weird too, which I
did not like. She was. She did not want to

(01:21:11):
be there. He was like, he's like, look at me
at one point, and he knew he was losing her.
But before that, even at the beginning of the conversation,
I just thought this was funny. When she says, these
are my beliefs, and when I was young, I pledged
to God that I was going to She says, I'm
a virgin. I'm waiting till I'm married. His response is, quote,
I respect the hell out of that. He says, my

(01:21:39):
God and my religion. Yeah, he says, I respect the
hell out of that. Do what is he doing? What
is he doing? What wouldn't be her ideal? Male response
to that, well, the hell out of it? Are h double? Yeah?
We found each other? Oh yeah, that would burn be

(01:22:00):
her ideal or her ideal? But didn't she at one
point say, I don't expect you to have been the
husband I don't expect the husband have been okay. She
says that okay, she says she just not I mean,
to his credit, she said it at some point, and
then he goes, well, I don't like. That's not me though,

(01:22:20):
like he did kind of say that it's rights not
me to her, saying I don't I don't mean, I
don't want to. I'm going to wait until I'm married
back to the hell out of that. But that's not okay,
that's the laughing. I mean, I mean, in the same
vein as their artifix rappers. You can't come on The

(01:22:41):
Bachelor and not expect people to bone and fantasy. That's true.
And then I hated how he kept saying I'm so sorry,
I'm so sorry, like he was apologizing for having sex
with him, and that really pissed me off because I
was just like, dude, like this is the show. You
can funk who you want as long as it's consensual,
go ahead, like, don't have like. But I think I
do think that she was his wife and his brain

(01:23:04):
and that he was gonna I think he was like,
oh my god, I don't I don't get to have
sex with Victoria and then marry you. Like I think
in his brain was like, see, I'm gonna marry I
don't wait a minute, I don't get to have sex
with them. But like I was always gonna marry you,
I can have sex. I don't know. I just thought
that was unfair. I guarantee you. He was hoping, yeah,
that she would go, I don't want to have sex

(01:23:26):
before marriage, but for you to not, I'm yours. Do
anything that you well me too. Don't hurt me, don't
hurt me. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, he I
truly thge you're in the back of his mind thought
like there's a chance we're going to go to fay.
She'd never never said you didn't know in the beginning.
I think you but even I think he even was

(01:23:49):
so far as like, all right, I guess i'll marry
you sight unseen, but I still want to have sex
with these other two ladies. I think he didn't realize
how big of a deal pretty care it was for
her because I wasn't clear about it. I thought she
was clear, but I think he didn't want. I think
you thought it was clear because we knew yeah, and

(01:24:11):
so we already knew what she was trying because she's
a virgin, but he didn't happen. I think he was
planning on. I think she was going to be the winner.
I agree. I think by the way, I think she's
still going to be the winner. I don't. I don't
think she comes back. I think he's going to go.
I'll tell you why. I think she doesn't come back,
be based on her posting on her own Instagram week

(01:24:31):
one that she's so real and down to earth, meaning
she wants to be the Bachelor. Never left virgin, but
they have a virgin man. May we may we throw
this out on the table. I absolutely believe, even with
the editing misleads, because there's always editing misleads and future trailers.
Yeah they did, they show so that sometimes never even

(01:24:53):
air always always always. However, I truly believe that Madison
is going to win to this season the Bachelor. I
think that she is going to disappear now she's gone.
And I think that when they're supposed to have the
rose ceremony with the three of them, there's only the two,
there's only Victoria and Hannah, and and I think during

(01:25:14):
that ceremony, he goes, I can't go through with this
because I want to Madison has to be here. Yeah,
and then the mom who's already met her because she
met her at the vowel renewal. The mom is like, no,
we loved her, you gonna bring her home to me.
Peters met hannah By. No, but Hannahby's done hannay. I

(01:25:35):
think I would love Hannahby to come back and win Cassie.
It was a Cassie Cassie Colton situation where Colton went
after and then they're like, no, just dating. I don't
want that. I want to ring on it. I want
Madison will want to ring on it, and there they
would be a great pair. Great. So what about this here?
I think she doesn't win. I think she takes off,

(01:25:57):
she does not come back. She wants to be the
Bachelor and he I think maybe started doing producer. Why
was she commenting on her own Instagram that she's so
real and down to her trying to make herself be
sound good. I don't know. I don't want to ruin anything.
But Kelsey apparently had an audition to be the night.
I think I think she'd be fun. I would hate that.

(01:26:21):
I would be so furious. I think she's now there's
no way I want to say. Hannah By was a
terrible contestant on Cold and Season. She was a nutball,
she fought with everybody. She couldn't do a toast, and
she was a fun bachelorette. And I think they could
train Kelsey. I think she's a real person. She has
a job, she has her fun, damaging backstory. She's a

(01:26:44):
pretty lady. I think they can groom her, put her
through the ABC beautifying like she's already a pretty gal.
They could shine her up. And I think she'd be
fun if they could get Hannah be a couddy Hannah
and Hannah By couldn't even get out. We except this
rose at the first Live when they they brought out
the five bachelors, Like, she couldn't even do it. They're like,
if they could get her ready to be the Bachelorette,

(01:27:05):
they could get Kelsey, right, Jerry. Usually by this point
there's also a clear bachelorette contestant. By this point in
the season, many of us will have had like this
girl could be great at the Bachelor, this girl could
be great at the Bachelor, And that girl doesn't exist
for me right now. Either. Two things One I think,
here's my Machiavillian. What I think Peter is gonna do. Right,

(01:27:26):
let's hear, let's hear. I think you're right that he's
gonna pick Madison, that Madison is what he wants. It's
with he's going to say, I'm in love with her,
that she's my wife. I think he's also self, but
he hates himself enough that the fact that she's gonna
leave is makes him water even more. But I think
in his mind, in his I make bad decisions mind,
he's thinking she's not going to say yes because I

(01:27:48):
did these other two ladies. So I'm now the broken
up with jilted bachelor with no wife, and that makes
him and then he can get back with Hannah Bay
if he wanted to. Okay, what do you think? So
you you to the question based on what you were
just saying, which is who of this cast? Would you

(01:28:09):
want to watch a season of the Bachelorette with Kelsey? Yeah,
you would do it, or you would be excited about Okay,
I think he's gonna bring I think he's going to
halt production in the Bachelor style, make sure Madison comes back.
He's going to get on his knees he's gonna say
or is he going to propose it? After the final rows?

(01:28:31):
I don't know what that is. It's like a studio
audience where and they all the contestants are there and
like we've they sit the people in there in jewel
tone tops and they watch the final episode play out
in the like at CBS Radford, and they don't know
who one, and then sometimes things happen. They're like Peter
comes out, we don't know who like one or whatever,

(01:28:52):
and usually we air it and they show it and
then they come out and they're like, so, how are
things going on and with you? And Brenna is like, well,
we broke up in February, or like things are great.
He just moved from Omaha, he moved into my condo
or maybe it's like, well he did. Sometimes they follow
like if they more and more lately, they'll be like
posts so that you find out the winner in front
of an audience or yeah, and then and then you

(01:29:13):
see how it's been going the last three months, so
it's like, okay, you've been dating. So it's like because
they've been in secret dating a lot of skyping, Yeah,
gotta I think, and they announced the Bachelor. I think
I actually think that what's going to happen is more traditional.
She's going to go away. Madison is going to go.

(01:29:34):
Peter is gonna go I can't go through with this
the production right now until she comes back. He's gonna
go make some plead to her. He's going to bring
her back. He's gonna send Victoria home. That's what I'm saying.
Even though yes, yeah, she's like there's too much, it's
there's still too much. I think it's Hannah and and
Madison at the end, and we're gonna go through and

(01:29:54):
then there's still gonna be fucking crazy drama, and there's
gonna be some tears, and there's gonna be like I
can't I still can't get over the fact that you
slept with Hannah's gone. Okay, I can't agree more. This
is exactly what I think is concent going to be
the It's it's the Rose ceremony. We see Hannah and
and Victoria standing there. Madison is not anywhere near there.

(01:30:15):
He is wearing the suit that we see Chris Harrison
come up to him and say, we just found this.
She left. Madison left. Madison and the parents are there
to meet the final two girls. Then he's laying on
the bed with the towel on his head and he's
just like, I can't go on. He literally stops the
fucking rose ceremonies, like that's happening, Okay, she needs to
come back. He goes and talks to his parents, and
his parents are like, no, she's the one. This is
what love stories are made of, right we Also, I

(01:30:38):
know because I goes after and then they're dating, just dating.
I don't want his dating. I just hate just dating.
I just don't think, well, obviously I need Neil Lane,
I think because she has to be because for Madison,
I think the part of the yes, I'll come back,
but I gotta win, hints, hints, hints. The way, I
just got what Neil Lane was. I thought there was

(01:30:58):
a guy named Neil there is. Yeah, well, I thought
there's like a lane where the guy kneels. I thought
that's what you were saying, Like it's a diamond he tells,
he tells diamonds. So he brings like and he goes high.
I'm Muel Lane, and like they shine up the corpse
of Neil Lane and they put like tanner on him,
and then he brings out like there's an area where

(01:31:21):
the man kneels, lane where they kneel. All right, Pat, Yet,
what do you think it's going to happen? And I, God,
that sounds that all sounds right, But I'm so afraid
of playing into the hands of the editor of the
soho So, who's gonna be the final two? She definitely
goes away, and I thought that she hanna be coming

(01:31:43):
back at the end. It was going to be such
a shocker. But I think I have come to feel
that Madison is the best choice for him, so she's
gonna they would be happy. I think she does leave,
and I think he does go out. And do you
think he gets her? I think she comes back. I'm
gonna here's my take. I think she likes him that much.
I think she leaves. I think he freaks out. I

(01:32:05):
think he ends up with nobody, maybe the producer. I
think she was posting on Instagram because she's so real
and down to earth, because she wants to be the Bachelorette,
because she's started like she left and stuck to it.
That's what I think. I think he ends up alone
and maybe dating that producer, and that she and she
is vying for Bachelor Jerry. What do you think I
think he wants Madison, but he ends up alone. I

(01:32:27):
think I think he wants I hope you guys are right.
I would wait to prefer that that's more fun. I
also just would die if she was. I think she's
too proud that she wouldn't. She's too proud. Her family
is going to watch this. She's too proud. I think
you're right. I don't know. I don't think he's going
to make such a plea. I swear to God, he's

(01:32:48):
going to make such a plea. He's going to say
everything she needs. He's gonna right. I'll be celebrate for
the next eight months. Will get married last a week?
That doesn't matter, doesn't matter. What matters is Will he
say will you marry me? To Madison? Yes? I think

(01:33:09):
he does, but I think she says no. Will you
guys help it? Okay, before we're gonna do Twitter The
week before that, I'm going to read some emails. I'm
gonna do some reviews. You can like us on iTunes.
We have a Facebook page. You can like us on
Facebook and it really helps us and and it makes
a big difference for us, so we appreciate even if

(01:33:30):
you just go click on the hopefully five stars. But
we also really appreciate all of your reviews. You guys
have been leaving us so many wonderful reviews. Um, let's see,
here's a new one. My favorite recap five Stars by
Giovanni p i C. I truly love this podcast so much.
Arden and her friends are so funny. Whenever something especially
ridiculous or funny happens on any of the Bachelor related shows,

(01:33:53):
I immediately think, I can't wait to hear what Arden
has to say about this. If you, like me, have
no friends who watch these insane goes, this is the
perfect podcast to listen to for a recap of all
the crazy things that happened week to week on this show.
Thank you so much, Gavanna. That's actually why I started
this podcast was so that I could discuss these shows
as my friends and like, I didn't know who watched it,

(01:34:14):
but I didn't know that Aaron fully watched it. So
I'm glad that you feel like you're hanging with us,
and that was the whole intention. We have so much
fun doing it, right, Katie, so much fun. It's truly,
it's and we love all of you like truly we
love we love our listeners. Here's another Oh no, one star, Okay,
this is a really mean review. One star, trash Katie.

(01:34:37):
This is from snack Amura, but she's never even listened
or him. I know just from the advertisement that I
would hate this podcast. Her voice makes me want to
scratch my eyes out. Well, that's not very nice. You
know what, we don't need you listening so and I'm
you know this is my voice and free podcast. You
don't have to listen to. No one's forcing you. And
it's not a very nice thing to Why why leave

(01:35:01):
a review from just like a trailer that's to actually
go out of your way to leave a review from
an ad is a really mean person? All right? But
here's another one, five stars. The only bright spot in
an otherwise heartbreaking weekend by Camille. I'm sorry you had
a heartbreaking weekend, but I'm glad it could help your weekend. Um.

(01:35:22):
I've been a long time listener but decided to finally
leave a review today. This weekend has been a hard one.
I'm sorry. I'm going through a breakup and I have
been nothing but tears all weekend breakup so the worst.
I finally picked myself up and went to my studio
to try and get some work done, which was hard
on one of those days where all you want to
do is stay in bed and mope. Listen to your
podcast helped me so much while I was working. I
typically tend to listen to it while I sew, and

(01:35:43):
it gave me much needed hour and um some hilarious distraction.
I think listening to it was the only time I
smiled this weekend. I know time heals all wounds, but
I'm thankful to have a group of hilarious and fun
comedians to cheer me up all the time passes by.
Thank you, Arden, Katie, Anna, Rob and all the other
amazing guests are the last. Well, Camille, We're thank you
so much for that review. And I know, look, as
we all know, life happens and it's hard out there,

(01:36:06):
and I feel like I feel like we've built this
podcast as our own sort of happy pill. It's like
my it's my podcast version of of like prozac. So like,
I'm glad that it works for you guys too, and
just hope it's brighten your day. Um let's see, we'll
do uh two more reviews, Let's see five stars by
Series twelve Glad. I found this podcast get entertained at

(01:36:27):
work well. Also listened to The Bachelor drama, which I
hate to admit I love and have no one to
share it with. Thank you for the laughs. Best Bachelor
Podcast five stars by Genji twelve oh fifty four. I've
been listening to your podcast since ari E season. I
don't watch the show regularly anymore, but still really listen,
religiously listen to your podcast. I love that there are
people that do that. I just they get caught up

(01:36:48):
through the podcast. UM Wednesdays are a treat knowing that
your latest podcast episode is out. It's hilarious and brings
levity in my life for an hour thanks to the
constant laughter. I'm sure you get this all the time
from your friends of your show, but rob An addicts
a gem. He's the best. UM. I love it when
he's on. I love listening to his soothing voice. Also,
the most recent episode with Michelle Collins was a riot
Please Do More podcast with her. I was literally laughing

(01:37:11):
for the entire list hour listening to both of you.
Michelle was such a fun edition. Anytime I'm in New
York and the and The Bachelor's on. You better believe
she's the first person I'm gonna reach out to. So
thank you again for anybody who left a review. Um,
except for the person waits my voice and did listen,
but you know what, we still will honor the reviews. Also,

(01:37:32):
if you want to reach out to us, you can
email us at Rose podcast at gmail dot com. This
is from Molly Sullivan and she has a different last name,
but I'm not going to say it. Hi, Arten and friends.
First of all, I love you guys, and the title
is crab Rangoon. I love you guys that I love
listen to your podcast every week and sometimes twice. When
The Bachelor decided to air seventeen hours about Sary week,

(01:37:54):
they really are doubling down. But I was completely floored
to hear that not everyone has had crab rang Goon.
I thought Peter was alone in this. I've taken the
liberty to the closest location that has crab Rangoon questionable reviews,
but let's not worry about it. Please order these for
your book party. Thank you. I can't wait for crab
ran Goon to change your life. Thank you for your service. Okay,

(01:38:15):
let's Ming Moon Chinese restaurant. God, we gotta go try
something that you don't need me. I'll go try the
crab Ragoon. Maybe they have like a tofu a tofu
rang imitation crab rang goon. I mean, I've literally never
heard of it, never heard of it. But I appreciate
that somebody took the time to like find us a restaurant.
Understand why Iowa is known for it, which is not

(01:38:38):
near an ocean. You know what, maybe they don't need
an ocean to enjoy crabon But and again, we appreciate
all of you. We appreciate our old listeners, were so
grateful for all the fun new listeners we've had and
and we wouldn't have a podcast if it weren't for
you guys. And it makes my life much richer. So
thank you so much, Thank you again. Those are all
such great reviews. We just of you and appreciate you.

(01:39:01):
And I gotta say, um, there's been so many wonderful
tweet of the weeks and that has been like it's
hard to narrow down. And I narrowed it down from
her tour and she sent me fifteen and I narrowed
it down to five. So we have it down to five,
and we're gonna narrow down to two and then we're
gonna pick the winner for Tweeter of the Week. You
guys ready, Okay? Lauren at Underscore Purple Underscore, Hayes Victoria

(01:39:25):
Peter Chicks all the boxes of someone I would want
to marry. Check still with another woman. That's it. That's
the only box. A thousand facets at a thousand facets, Peter.
I love everything about Victoria except our lack of communication,
her temper tantrums, her white modelist supremacists bottling, and all

(01:39:47):
of our fights. Other than that, she is perfect. J.
D Hunter at Judge Underscore d R Was anyone else
disturbed by Peter bounding into the women's conversation like a
kid I Christmas and his little swimmies to announce the
start of fuck week? Like it was all I could
do not to flop down on the floor and yell
Peter wants the plus Cheyenne Constant at Trixie Firecracker. Um.

(01:40:16):
If only Maddie could articulate what she is trying to
say to Peter the way she articulates compliments to herself.
On her own Instagram page and set that at basebone one. Oh,
so this is about that that show Listen to Your
Heart that's coming up. That is uh, that's the Bachelor
show where they're finding single musicians. Um, the best part

(01:40:40):
of Listen to Your Heart will be Joe Joe and
Jorgian's live commentary of ten guys trying to penetrate their
guitars in a hot tub. All right, I'm gonna narrow
it down to these two. Um J d Hunter at
Judge Dre Was anyone else to stored by Peter bounding
into the women's conversation like a kid on Christmas and
his little swimmies to announce the start of fun Week

(01:41:01):
Like it was all he could do not to PLoP
down in the floor and yell pet watch the plus
number two Lauren at Purple Underscore Hayes Victoria. Peter checks
all the boxes of someone I would want to marry.
Check still with another woman. That's it. That's the only box.
Funck week or still with another woman? Checks boxes, Funck

(01:41:22):
week or check boxes. I like check box. I like
check box. Okay, so I'll do fun Week and I'll
let padget pick I like okay, j D Hunter at
Judge Underscore d r N. If you guys want to
play along, you tweet at me or Anna Josie m
Arta Marine on Twitter A R D E N M

(01:41:43):
y R I N anna is A N N A
H O S s N I e h and then
do hashtag w y A t R. She reads all
of them and narrows it down. And so this tweet
at us um Brendan where can people find you? They
can find me at at black sab sixty seven on
the Twitter, Twitter dot com and more importantly, the Brando

(01:42:05):
cast dot com, stitcher, Google Play, Apple Apple Apple Apple, Apple,
Apple Apple. The Brando cast dot com has links to
all those places. It's a really fun so many great people.
Paget should do it. They're going to do it. I'm
gonna do it. I your poor producer got sick. He's okay, Jerry,
I don't want you on the show coming, Jerry? Where

(01:42:26):
can people find a c D C rendition? Was put
a seed in mind? Cat friend? Okay, Jerry? Where can
people find you? Have anything? You want to plot? No
that I want to plug at Jerry Trainer on Instagram
and Twitter. Great Paget Bruce Day at Paget Paget on
Twitter and at Paget Paget Graham on Instagram. I'm at

(01:42:48):
Arta Marina on Instagram. I lost like seventy eight followers
last week, so please, I feel like it's something. What
did you say? I think it's Some of the instatiable
kids are like, wait, where's Michael Provost? Yeah? I think
dispassers of Michael pro Host? Um? And again, you can
get my book online and and if we get my
goal is to be a New York Times bestseller. You

(01:43:09):
have to sell eight thousand copies. And if we do that,
I'm hoping. If he's not here, I have to get
premiership from my brother. But my goal, my dream is
to do a free show in my mom JJ's yard
to party. Right. If my brother throws down the gauntlet
and says no, I'll do it somewhere else. I'll do
a free show somewhere, but hopefully in JJ's yard. You

(01:43:29):
have to wear pants tucked into tubes, stocks and everything
so you don't get um chiggers. No, not schiggers. Up ticks,
dear ticks. I'm disease. I don't want to give anybody.
You're probably not going to get it, but I just don't.
It's New England. You never know. Just tuck your pants sucks,
all right, Katie, adopt, don't shop. Yeah, adopt the dog
or cat or foster if you can adopt. All right, everybody,

(01:43:52):
I can't wait. I cannot wait to see what happens
this season. And I can't wait. I you've all been
such a wonderful What a wonderful group of people. This
is a clean It's been an honor well done. I
feel like you guys should be at the finale with
Rob Benedict. Okay, yeah, my best friend in real life. Yeah.

(01:44:16):
I feel like you guys have done such as a team.
You've been such a great team. I'd like to invite
you to be the finale team and we'll bring Rob Benedict. Great, Okay, great,
because I need to hear what the rookie things of
the finale pizza Yeah, yeah, okay, fine, Oh yeah, I
want to get all its good. I'm just gotta wonderful

(01:44:42):
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