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October 7, 2025 16 mins

This week, Tony shares his thoughts on the things a lot of hunters get wrong about blood trailing deer, and what they can teach us about ourselves and the deer in general.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.
First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
Tony Peterson.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about blood trailing
deer and what it can teach us, not only about
how to find you know, mortally hit, wounded deer, but
just dear behavior in general. When it comes down to it,

(00:43):
there's so much about deer that we just don't understand.
We fill in the blanks a lot to compensate for this,
but it's just simply true that for the most part,
their world is.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Kind of a mystery.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
This hits me upside the head like a bag of
wet cement a couple of times each season, and it's
always a good reminder to check what I think I
know over is what the deer actually tell me in
the moment, which is kind of what this episode is
all about. It's the heartbeat in my ears that I
love the most. If that sounds like I suffer from schizophrenia,

(01:15):
well maybe I guess. But what I'm referring to there
is what happens to me when I see a deer
that I know I'm going to try to shoot. I
love that feeling so much, and I bet you do too.
The cool thing about my life right now is that
not only do I get to experience that for myself
a handful of times each season, I get to watch
it vicariously play.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Out with my daughters.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
The only time I felt it for sure this year
was when I had just gotten winded by a doe
in Minnesota and then got half winded by a little
six pointer who was about one hundred and eighty degrees
away from that dough. He just walked off when I
turned around in my stand and saw an eight pointer
walking along a trail near the pond I was hunting.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Now, I have a few rules on.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
That particular property that I try to stick to, and
one of them is that holding out for a giant
is just not a good idea.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
That property is tiny, and.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I share it, and in a lot of time hunting there,
I have yet to see any deer that I would
confidently say was over two and a half years old.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
The other rule I.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Have there is to take really high odd shots, because
even a liver hit deer could put a dying buck
in some soccer mom's backyard pretty quickly, and I would
rather avoid that at all costs. While this buck checked
all the boxes and I heard that familiar sound inside
my head as I stopped him and drew. It was
one of those no doubt smoked him type of hits,

(02:30):
and I felt so confident he wouldn't go far that
I texted my daughters and told them it was time
for them to track him for me. They showed up
and we set out and found the arrow quickly. We
then picked up blood and made it seventy five yards
without too much trouble. The downside was that the deer
wasn't there, and I got that not so great feeling
in the pit of my stomach. I don't know a
whole lot of people who hunt pressure deer who aren't

(02:54):
totally wrecked with self doubt, and you can count me
into that camp.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I can get there real quickly.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
The buck made it on a mode trail, peeled off
slightly once, and then peeled off again twenty yards or
so farther on.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
That's where he was stone.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Dead, and quite a bit farther than I expected, but
not far enough to really matter much at all. The
girls did a good job with the trail, even with
me breathing down their necks, because taking third place in
line on a blood trail is not my natural state.
When that buck peeled off the trail the first time,
I told them he was just looking for a place
to die. I was right, kind of. He just didn't

(03:28):
follow through at that moment. Sometimes they are predictable, sometimes
they aren't. I think mostly they kind of aren't. But
we see what we want to see now. That wasn't
the last blood trail I was on, however. In the
end of September, I took my daughters to northern Wisconsin
to hunt sporks and does, and on the first day
we had a dough flirt with death a lot. She

(03:48):
made it through unscathed, but man, it was close. The
following day we blanked in the morning, so we headed
out for the afternoon sit with hopes in our hearts,
me for a deer and them for a deer that
would keep them from having to go to school. The
next morning, Well, we finally heard something, and soon enough
we had a spike buck standing really, really close to

(04:08):
our blind. He didn't like the vibe of the scene
a whole lot. But the beauty of young bucks is
that they aren't very smart, and sometimes some of us
just need a not very smart one to offer himself
up to us. Well that's what this one did. And
he was so close to the blind that I was nervous.
And I got really nervous when I looked down and
saw that my daughter's crossbow bolt was not going to

(04:29):
clear the bottom of the blind or the bottom of
the window, I should say, so, I whispered to her twice.
I literally said, you're not going to clear the window.
Don't shoot. I said that twice. And you know what
she did. She didn't shoot, Just kidding, she did, and
that bolt smacked into the buck like a freight train.
He went down on his chest and bulldozed his way

(04:51):
out of our lives. But he didn't go very far. Now,
if you're wondering how far that might throw off a
bolt in the distance of maybe twenty five feet, I'll
say this a lot more than you'd want to.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Risk it for.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
And we got very lucky because she caught a whole
lot of vital stuff in that deer's neck before it
broke his off side shoulder. The blood trail looked like
a scene from a horror movie, and he did that
straightaway sprint of a deer in real trouble, no surprise there,
which was nice. It was also nice to get lucky
in the right way with a bad shot, because that
doesn't happen that often. Even though I don't want to

(05:24):
encourage her or anyone else to risk it for the
old deer biscuit, if you know what I mean. Blood
trailing is an interesting endeavor because it brings to mind
the general behavior of deer that we all believe, or
at least most of us anyway, things like wounded deer
go to water, or wounded deer won't go uphill, or

(05:44):
a heart or double lung hit will result in a
deer that's dead within a certain amount of distance or
a high entrance and no exit won't bleed externally very much.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
You know all about it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But for most of us, if we go on more
than a handful of blood trails in any game in season,
that's a lot most of us might get to do
this a few times every fall, and that's not enough
time to get really good at anything, let alone learn
a whole lot about dear behavior, especially wounded deer behavior.
Oftentimes we were just left to fill in the blanks.
That's dangerous stuff because we just end up, you know,

(06:18):
talking ourselves into believing something that we usually want to believe.
The guy that I'm sharing that small property with here
in the Cities hit a buck on opening weekend that
bled like a stuck hog in a few spots and
then stopped bleeding. At least according to the guy's story,
that's what happened, and I don't have much of a
reason to doubt it now.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
My initial reaction was that it was.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
A brisket hit where those big chest muscles bleed like
crazy for a while and then this bigot just turns
off his blood trailing progress and eventual conclusion kind of
sealed the deal for me. But you know what, I
don't actually know. I wasn't on the trail. There's no
dead buck to bear witness to what actually happened. It's
all just a big maybe. Even if that big maybe

(06:58):
exists with some high light likelihood of it being true,
what's worse, I assured him that the buck will probably survive.
I've seen deer hit like that, and I've gotten them
on trail camera later in the season. But I have
also seen deer get hit like that and had zero
evidence that they survived. My default is to assume that
they did. But why well, I don't like the thought

(07:19):
of him, you know, dying a slow you know, ultimately
probably not a very fun death, and then getting gobbled
up by crows and coyotes. But that doesn't mean that
that didn't happen. I've been on more than a few
blood trails where bucks seemed to completely or mostly stop bleeding,
and then a grid search has turned them up tucked
into some dead fall or lane in four foot tall grass,

(07:41):
in a meadow somewhere.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
You know. I killed a pretty good buck on public.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Land in Iowa in twenty twenty that died in a
river bottom and not in anything overly thick. But I
still walked right by him dozens of times before coming
back in the daylight and finding him within like two minutes.
I had another deer I shot with a muzzle or
die right next to me, and I had no idea
until I got frustrated looking for blood, and walked back
to right where I shot from, which was also like

(08:05):
five yards from where he piled up. I shot a
buck one time when I was in high school that
was bleeding like a stock hog, and when I lost
the trail, I nearly lost my mind. I knew he
wasn't gonna go uphill, because that's all I had ever

(08:28):
been told, and so it was a pretty big surprise
that he did in fact go uphill, and I did,
in fact not find him, but I did in fact
see that deer some weeks later off the same stand.
There are so many lessons tucked into those moments. Another time,
I shot a buck that ran away from me in
a very obvious direction, and after a lot of searching
and not finding, I went on a whim the opposite

(08:50):
way and found him two hundred yards down the ridge
in the wrong direction. I still don't know why he
did what he did. But I did shoot a dough
in the late season in northern Wisconsin quite a few
years ago that walked a long ways on a trail
before doubling back a long ways on the same trail.
And I don't know if she did it because I
was blood trailing her, or if she did it because
she just did. I know that both of those trails

(09:13):
led me to question a lot of what I know
about wounded deer, and I think about both of them
every time I start a trail, and it just gets,
you know, a little bit challenging. The rules we think
they follow they often don't. And something that might help
us understand that occurred to me when I was sitting
in that blind with my daughters waiting on a spike
to show up. You know how when you're bored or

(09:35):
you're hungry, you'll just think about where you're going to,
you know, go or do, or find someplace to just
sit down and eat. I wonder if that happens with
deer like I wonder if they think, man, I can't
wait to get out of this bed and get over
to some clover, although they wouldn't call it clover because
they probably don't have names for their food anyway. I
also wonder if they hear some acorns falling and think

(09:57):
I better just go over there and check that out
because that sounds tasty. Does that seem crazy? It probably is,
But deer get the zuomies. Deer seem to get angry,
they sometimes run to a food source, so I don't
know what thoughts they have or what emotions they feel.
I wonder what they are thinking when they are hit,
you know, by an arrow or a bullet, and if

(10:17):
there is enough going on between their ears to constitute
real panic or real contemplation. I'm not sure it's for
us to say. I've seen dogs do some pretty cunning things,
and I'm not too sure the difference in intelligence between
your average Labrador Retriever and your average wild white tail
is all that different. I've also seen some do lots
of things that seem to require no mental resources whatsoever,

(10:39):
So who knows. What I do know is that the
more blood trails I go on, the more I rely
less on the rules for the deer and more on
the rules for me and anyone else who is blood
trailing with me. Some of these are pretty standard. I
like really good lights, no surprise there. But I also
like not much noise on my blood trails. Someone who

(11:00):
tries to blood trail with their phone flashlight is not
likely to get invited on too many blood trails with me,
just like anyone who makes too much noise. I don't
know why, but I just generally prefer to be quiet
in the woods as much as possible. This is one
of the reasons it drives me nuts when people comment
on hunting films by saying you don't need to whisper
after you shoot your deer. Sometimes you can't help but

(11:20):
let out a war cry or seven, But mostly I
try to stay quiet because I'm always hunting where other
people can hunt, so even if my hunt might be over,
I'm not a huge fan of upsetting the balance in
the woods any more than necessary, because I wouldn't want
people to do that to me if I still had
a tag and was hunting out there anyway. On the
blood trail front, I think being quiet just makes sense.

(11:41):
I'm also pretty diligent about marking the blood really well.
Sometimes that's with on X, but usually I just keep
my tracker on now so I can use it to
guide me when the going gets tough, or tell me
if I've already gone two hundred and fifty yards and
it's time to back out and wait for daylight. Flagging
tape works well, but then you have to retrace your
steps to pick it up. Paper does too, but that

(12:01):
can be a little harder to see. Either way, if
you're paying attention, a good light, quiet tractors, and diligence
on marking the spore are huge. Instead of totally guessing
what the buck did, if you stick to those three things,
you can make a pretty good decision on what he
probably did.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
And those are great.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
But the theme that keeps popping up for me and hunting,
and I mean all aspects of hunting, which does include
blood trailing, is patience. I honestly think that if you
want to kill more deer and definitely more big bucks,
you need to learn the real value of patients. Most
hunters are impatient and they want to make something happen.

(12:39):
This is the Western hunting standard and their playing field
sort of allows for it. But the world of white
tail isn't as conducive to impatience because a lot of
us are on small parcels with an animal that is
really good at not showing itself if it doesn't want
to be seen. This idea has led me to volume
hunt spots with good sign A lot in recent years

(13:00):
often need to give a location a few days before
DearS show up, but they usually show up now. On
the blood trail front, going slow with deliberation is huge.
Anyone who is impatient on a blood trail isn't welcome
on my blood trails because it drives me absolutely nuts.
The whole idea is to sort the puzzle out piece

(13:20):
by piece, and a deer can go anywhere he damn
well pleases. Finding that next speck of blood is what's
most important, that's what matters the most. But this is
where the Venn diagram of impatience and beliefs about wounded
deer behavior become almost a complete circle. As soon as
it gets tough, the impatient blood trailer will say, well,

(13:43):
he probably went down to the creek since they need water,
and then the wild goose chases on. The farther you
start branching out from the last blood, the more ground
you have to work with. Now, sometimes this is necessary,
but it's often not necessary. As soon as most blood
trailers would like to believe. Patience here is a real virtue,
and if you pair that with a well marked blood trail,

(14:05):
you can really sort of tease out likely travel routes
and start checking them off the list. You go through
the obvious ones, and if the sign isn't there, you
go on to the ones that are less obvious. Now,
if the sign still isn't there, then you go for
the ones that break the blood trailing rules, like checking
the trail that goes straight uphill or backtracking and looking
for a spot where he might have turned at some point.

(14:27):
The impatient blood trailers don't often work through the process
that way. And the moment you start freelancing on a
blood trail is the moment the clock starts ticking toward
giving up. There is just such a shift in the
vibe when that happens, and it rarely does us any favors.
I don't know how to say this any other way.
It's just really important. I think plenty of deer are
loss to impatience on blood trails, and I think that's

(14:49):
a shame because it's mostly avoidable. Now, I'm not saying
you don't have to color outside the lines on some trails,
because you do. We all end up grid searching at
some point, no matter how well we go through the
initial trailing phase.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
It just happens.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
But it should be a well planned last resort, especially
if you can't get tracking dogs into the mix, which
is a topic for another conversation. So anyway, think about
this stuff when you're killing time on stand and certainly
when you take a shot or you get that text
from your buddy that says grab your lights and head
on over. Do that and come back next week because

(15:23):
I'm going to talk about how to deal with change
in the deer woods and why the good old days
are just sort of a myth.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
That's it for this week.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I'm Tony Peterson and this has been the Wirre to
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