March 10, 2025 • 31 mins
On this episode of WNTTLK, Nyla Symone sits down with R&B singer Nali to discuss her new EP 'No Spaces', her journey in music, connections, relationships, and personal growth while sharing fun moments through games and talks about future goals. Nali opens up about her experiences in the industry and her passion for making a positive impact on her community. Tune in and comment in the socials below.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
What's your boyseno at what's up that one?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
A long? Yall?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Note, you need to talk. We need a time and
people like hitch you up and be like is this
about me?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
People have hit me up and been like, yo, you
wrote exactly what I was thinking like, I thank you
for saying what I couldn't say.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
When you're missing that connection, do you reach out or
do you sit in the feeling and then make music
from it? So reach out for the plot? What is
like the hardest crash probably the one that got me
into court. What's up, y'all? My name is Nali. My
(01:45):
new EP No Space is out now. Hoh me real close?
So we really close? I love you? What's not? We
need to talk? What's going on? Guys? I am Nila
Simone and welcome to another episode that we need to
talk today. I have a very special guest in the building.
I have R and B singer Nali here. How are you?
(02:05):
I'm good, I'm good. Thank you for having me, Thanks
for coming. Why why do you seem shy right now?
If you are not a shy person. Well, when you
saw me, I was drunk. Oh yeah, okay, that was
the time. I had a great time. But you did great.
I was so happy here up there. Oh period, don
I love, I love. I was so happy you were there.
(02:28):
You have great energy, and from that day I went
on to listen to your catalog and just got to
know you a bit more through your music. But we'll
get into that. Just before we get into that, how
are you feeling right now? Just current state of life? Oh?
I feel good.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm very happy, very zen. My life is so peaceful
and boring, but I'm not complaining about that. I'm grateful
to be in the space that I am.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I love that for you. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm so
intigent and boring. That sounds like fun to me. Uh,
what is in it boring for you? Are you like
a wake up and do yoga girl? Or oh yeah,
wake up, go to the gym? And then I'm just
it's just really like a day full of like what
side quest? What hobbies do? I feel like adventuring off too,
(03:15):
And I'll have a dog, so taking care of my dog.
First time dog on it, first time getting my own
dog because my family we always had dogs. But yeah,
my first puppy, and it's hard, but I love him.
He's so great. He's so terrible, but he's so great.
Are you training him? Trying to? Yeah? Wait? How how
(03:38):
old is he? Now? He's two? Months. Oh all right,
yeah you can. That's gonna take some time. Yeah with me.
What type of dog? A porky? He's a pit bull Yorky.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It was a mistake, but you know, wait a minute,
a pitbull Yorky.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That sounds like a combination. Can I see a photo?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I love what people ask for photos. Look at you
being a mom. Oh my god, he's so cute. Nah,
that's super cute. I love that for you. So I
know you dropped the EP this past month, right, yeah,
because it's been going on week three now, okay, drop
(04:24):
the EP? But what are you working gone currently? We're
gonna get a longer project. Okay, yeah, that's that's really
what it is. I'm gonna put out.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I mean, I'm gonna have some singles, but really working
towards that longer body of work right now, I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Curious to see what the body of work sounds like
for you. Are you currently in the process of making it? Yes?
And those because like, I have so much music that
I could just put out there, but then I'm always
like in a new space for music, so I'm like,
I want to I want to add like where I
am right now in this moment, Okay, on those faces,
(05:04):
I feel like it went from like great love to
like how did we get here? Like was that intentional
or these were just three records that you just wanted
to get off. I mean like, I feel like these
together were definitely like a storyline. Okay, yeah, that's what
it was given. But these were definitely songs made on
(05:25):
very separate occasions that I was just like, we're gonna
put these together because they helped tell the story. Man,
I can't wait to get into this. Have people like
hit you Up? Not even songs just based off this EP,
just other singles you've ropped. Have people like hitch you
up and been like is this about me? Yo?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
No, people have hit me up and been like, yo,
you wrote exactly what I was thinking, Like, I thank
you for saying what I couldn't say, And I was like.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh my god, what that is yo? Yeah? Being our
inside like saying our inside thoughts. Yeah. I be feeling
like that a lot. But okay, let's get into the
first record on the EP, Hold Me Close. Now, what
I just took away from it was just wanting to
be held But when was the last time you had
a moment where you felt like you just needed to
(06:18):
be held, no words, just vibes, no words, vibes on
this trip. My god, you are right here. Yeah, but
I'm so over oh right, understandable, get me out of here?
Me too? Well? Where do you want to be? Atlanta? Who?
My man? Oh? Oh understood, Yeah, definitely understood. Okay, So,
(06:43):
which R and B song instantly makes you want to
pull up and just lay with your man?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Um?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm gonna say, yo, do you know Isaiah Haraan like
any of his songs? Any of his songs? Is he
from Queens? I think he's from South Carolina? Okay, no, no, no, no, sorry,
there's like three Isaiah singing right now. Oh yeah, I know.
(07:11):
To backtrack, what is stopping you from moving to Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh oh man? No, my my music career, because it's
more convenient for me to be like out here. Everything
is out here for me. Both cities are great cities
to be in for music, though, Tell my team, tell
my team. Sorry, guys, I do love y'all as well,
but Atlanta's where it's at. I would have moved to
Atlanta too. Oh we should all just go. We should
(07:39):
We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. When you're
missing that connection, do you reach out or do you
sit in the filling and then make music from it?
So reach out for the plot, not reach out for
the plot. Well before I was in a relationship, yeah, yeah, obviously,
but yes, reach out for the plot. Always what's your said,
lib Dammit, it's always the losers. We have to make
(08:04):
a real of this ship. I kid you, not every
toxic huh oh lion, yes, oh, lion lib Yeah, that's
that's the same. But I'm not gonna put it on
the woman. I really like you. N I'm not gonna
put what you're a libra too. Oh hell no, I
(08:26):
felt that energy when you walked in step out, no joke,
huh No, that makes a lot of sense. Nah, my
theories on libers is right, for sure. I don't know
about the Libra woman. I don't know about the liver like.
(08:47):
We're just as terrible. No, unfortunately, two of my best friends,
my mom's, we were great. But sometimes yeah, it's rough.
I ain't gonnack like. I don't know y'all. Okay, cool,
I just didn't to blow your spot up, but you
low key put it in the music, So it's okay.
Let's talk about no spaces. What was one thing that
(09:08):
instantly makes you feel like you want to drop everything
and go straight to your man. I don't know, just
the time away. I guess like it's just like time away.
It is just oh no, what are we doing here?
Like when you're together with your partners, like okay, I
can I can use some time. Then you're gone. It's like, oh,
what's going on? Yeah, so yeah, totally understandable. Let's go
(09:32):
into Rip and that song is essentially about losing trust,
lack of trust within the love. Yeah, it's more like.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Being in denial, about being addicted to weed.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
What. Yeah, And then like it's just coming between my
relationship and it's like the person's trying to make me
stop smoking, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna try to
stop smoking. But then it's like when I stop smoking,
I'm not feeling any type of like there's no like,
oh yes, I know this is hard for you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So it's like, okay, you stop smoking, like this is great.
So it's like and then when moments get hard, she's like, nah,
I'm about to smoke again.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Then it's creating more I am. I had no idea.
I feel like now that I told you, when you
go back and listener, ah, I see that. Hold on,
what was those faces about? I just gotta make sure
I know, like I'm reading these right. Well, Okay, No,
spaces was more. It was more like a sexual thing. Okay, cool,
I read that one correctly. Yeah, amazing. I thought that
(10:31):
whole song was about relationships. I mean, yeah, I can
see that it's a play on it, but it's not
about that, Okay, got it. I like the texture of
the artwork with the aliens for the cover art. It's random,
but it's cute. What is it? So basically I saw Okay,
(10:53):
I went to this like vintage store in Atlanta and
they had vinyls and stuff like that's. I was going
to their vinyls because I need an inspo for my
project cover. And I seen this super cool vinyl. I
don't I have a picture of it, but.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It was just super dope and I was like, I
want to recreate this. But then I ran into Cheaty
like I found him, which was the artist of the artwork,
and I was like, oh my god, I love this
style that you got going on. And then I sent
him the picture and then yeah he made that and
I was like, Oh, I love this, this is great.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Shout out to Chitty he ate with that. Yeah, he's great.
All right, let's get into the Fokers. The song is
classy but savage at the same time. Who had you
fucked up? Oh? Definitely definitely my ex have me autoway
that stuff. I was just so irritated.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I was like, Wow, Wow, this is great, this is great.
Let me just pour this into the studio before I
crash out.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm glad you did. So glad you did it. It's
honestly my favorite because it's so entitated. Yeah, did you
end up crashing out?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I actually held it together very well, and I'm glad
that I didn't, Okay, because nothing good ever comes out
of that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, but yeah, I just crashed out in the song.
Have you crashed out before? Plenty of times? Really not
plenty of times? Okay? All right? What is like? The
hardest crash.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Probably the one that got me into.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Court for beating him up for vandalizing, for saying I'm
going to do something to someone. Oh and then they
got it on tape. Then they sent it to their
police officer family member. Drama that is that it was
(13:04):
deep drama, not you fucking with a nigga that should
have ship to the cops. Man the tonatos at him?
Whoever that is. Can we add to like tornato effects
to the screen. That's so lame. Any nigga I call
a cop on a girl? Was she angry? Is wag
as fuck? It was? It was? It was a girl.
It was a friend. Yeah, she was involved. Okay, yeah,
(13:34):
wait a friend of his, A friend of my exes? Yea?
Is she the reason why I was about to crash out? Yes,
she was the reason for the crash out. Oh my god.
I'm sorry me too for her and my ex But
(14:00):
I know, well that's told me. I love the way
you're handling that now. P E T T Y. Yes,
such a fun record. This is actually the first song
I heard by you. Oh really yeah? Oh wow? Wow? Yes,
But talk to me about that record. What was the
inspiration behind it? Yeah, I was just it was really
(14:21):
late in the studio, we were trying to wrap up
and I heard the beat and I was like, I
want to do something to this, and that was like
the first thing that came to my mind. I don't
know why, but it's also just who I am too,
Like I'm trying to get over that pettiness. But it's
just like it's hard. It's hard. So I was like,
you know, this is what's on my mind. That's what
I'm going to talk about. Okay, Well, I want to
(14:42):
play a game called petty or not. Oh okay, now
say I'm gonna need you to say whether she is
petty or not? Oh okay, yes, so I'll read a
few different scenarios. No, this has to be a true
(15:08):
reflection of gnolly. Okay, blocking someone after they cancel plans
last minute. Have you done that? I have? Yeah, I
have never done that because I'm usually the one cancelzo lands,
going through your partner's phone while they're asleep. Hell yeah,
(15:28):
oh my god. You know what, don't worry about it.
I'm gonna just take I'm gonna take her hook and
then whenever she does some petty woods play it. Why Okay?
Keeping gifts from your ex in your house mm hmmm,
(15:50):
haven't done it? Oh I have? Oh you have not
a fan of that? Okay, watching their I G stories
but not texting back. Oh yeah, you do that. I
can't stay that shit. By the way, sending a VIMO
request for your money back after a breakup. Yes, no,
(16:11):
I've never done it, but I want to, she said,
y'all owe me for the time spent for fet felt. Okay.
Unfollowing a friend because they didn't invite you somewhere. No
posting a group pic but purposely cropping somebody out. No
refusing refusing to go to an event, because so when
(16:34):
you did not like to go? But why do I
like to be there? I would, I would actually want
to volunteer to go. Oh, oh my god, spicy. Okay,
I'm here for it. Giving back a birthday gift after
an argument. M No leaving a job and deleting all
(16:58):
your coworkers from social media. Yes, yes, she said, y'all
was my work friends. This is for real, get away
from me. That's funny, Okay. Stealing office supplies on your
last day? Yes? Wait where did they steal office supplies
from ice fort a Bridle company? Mmmm? They're posted in
their their pens. Oh, just to post it. I feel
(17:20):
like nothing else okay, Okay, I'm thinking about the event stuff,
the expensive ass ship that nobody wants to buy. Ever. Okay.
Posting song lyrics aimed at someone but saying it's just
a vibe. Oh, absolutely, she said all the time. Okay,
(17:42):
going live just to show your outside after someone cancels
on you. Oh, going live though I haven't gone live.
Maybe like a video or something. Story. Yeah, bringing your
own food to a family function because you don't trust
their cooking, all right, bring your own food to someone's
function because you don't trust it cooka Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Okay,
(18:05):
what's your ethnicity background? I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican. Oh lovely, Yes, damn,
that's cool. Yeah, great food. All right, we're gonna play
this fill in the blank game or you gotta do
this on the blank. Great. The older I get, the
less I want to go outside. Oh my god. Yeah,
(18:31):
you've been on your introvership all interview. Yeah right, I
just feel like I don't know what's facing my life.
Name the era? What era is this? This is grind time.
We're a grinding era. Mm hmm yeah. Oh the craziest thing. Wait,
(18:51):
have you been on tour yet? No? Baby, okay, but
I see I seen you at a show. Yeah I was.
I was on tour with him. But like, I'm not
my personals Okay, I'm just a ten years from now.
I want my legacy to be. Mmm, that's a good one.
(19:13):
I would want my legacy to be something with the community,
something with the black community in general, just providing in
that aspect. I don't know something like that. Blank is
one movie I can watch with the sound off. Oh
(19:34):
White Chicks, Oh my god, I love that is a
funny ass movie. Favorite quote Guanta Akwana theod Why this
you want to talk about my bell? So I know
that script like inside and out, that's a great one.
(19:57):
Outside from singing, my favorite hobby is.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Now it's turned into cooking. I really language shout out
cooking with coy Man. She had the people in a
front seat. It's true, but yeah, what is parked? The
cooking thing roared oh and being big. I'm just like
I need to eat, and being in Atlanta, there's like
(20:22):
nowhere to eat for real. It's the same stuff American
deli wah. True.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The soul food can be great. JJ's can be great,
But I don't go to strip clubs.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Mm hmmm. So it was like, I need to cook.
Have you been to the strip club? Not yet? That
is not an adventure I have. I have partaken it yet. Yeah, right,
I'm like maybe soon. Even my dad called me like,
if you want some good wings, you know, go to
strip club. I was like, oh, that must really be
a thing. Yeahn mm hmm you mean mm hmm? Oh wow,
(20:52):
how was? It is not really my thing either, not
my tea. I'm like, do I even like? Is it
should go? Though? Just because now I feel like I
know what the rappers be talking about. Oh these are
the wings wings. Oh, She's like, as City Wings. That
(21:17):
makes sense. Okay, I think I think that would be
a great experience for you, especially in Atlanta. That's a
real strip play. I just need to go. Yeah, I'm
just gonna get out the way do it this weekend.
Sure period, I'm gonna do it as you will. I'm
of course you will. Nobody wanted you there. If I'm
going with anybody, might as well get this some one, Okay, okay, okay.
(21:39):
He is like, apause, I'm not gonna what to do.
I'm just be sitting there like you're gonna give her
the money to throw? Of course? Oh all right, you
didn't come to right. No. By the end of twenty
twenty five, I hope too, Oh my god, I hope to.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Make at least one hundred thousand, like please, I need
some money.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
She said, like please, what about music wise or that
is it?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think right now I'm going to hit a million streams,
like I just want more. A lot of people are
listening to my music. I was looking at it was
like forty one thousand listeners. I said, whoa, that's crazy
that Like imagine forty one thousand people in like one area. Yeah,
knowing my music, Like that's actually insane. But like, yeah,
I definitely want to hit like a million on something
(22:41):
the goal. Yeah, I can see that that's not far off.
My favorite album of all time is probably I'm gonness suit. Damn,
(23:06):
this is just popping into my head. But is that
my favorite album? What's the one that's there? No names album?
Which one was? It was itself? What is it called
the White Background something twenty five? Oh let me look
wait only because I can put it on shuffle and
(23:30):
it's like No Escapes Room twenty five, yes, or Self
No no, no Room twenty five. But Self was on there? Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
I used to be obsessed with Ace on this project.
Oh my god, that's a great time. It's all this stuff.
That is your favorite album of all time? I love that, Okay,
one of them, one of them, Yeah, definitely one of them.
I can't. I don't have like favorite anythings of all time. Okay,
(23:52):
I can't. It's so hard to do. That's fair. But yeah,
no name is up there. I love her. She's great, Okay,
from time to time. It's good to do Blake, smoke
some weed when you smoke Tativa high breed. But I
should get into more Tativa because I'd be slumped sleep,
(24:14):
just knocked out. Yeah, I love Sativa. Are you backwards
paper paper? No backwoods, No nicotine. I'm not a fan
of nicotine. To each of them, I respect it. You
would never believe me if I told you, probably about
that court case. But on a more positive note, I
(24:38):
don't know just that court case. Sometimes I look back
at my life and and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I think, h smile because I think I'm very grateful
for everything that all the community that I had around
me growing up, and just opportunities and just connections that
a lot of people did not.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Have access to. Why love that? What would you say,
is like your villain origin story into music, Let's say villain.
But yeah, right, I was doing music since twenty twenty
and I was just like my dad was always in music,
and I was like, oh my god, like you should
(25:34):
just work with me, you know, believe in your daughter. No,
I have something to give. He was like, yeah, yeah,
you know, and the time is right. No whatever, man,
the time was right. When the song did what it did,
I guess, but I would say like that was my
villain origins there. I was like, you know, I'm just
gonna do this just to show you should have been.
(25:55):
You should have been when I said not that makes sense.
But yeah, twenty twenty, so that's when you went for
a fledge into your artistry. Well, it was still like
a hobby thing cause like it was just me a
writer I was introduced to and like an engineer and
it was more like a home team. So I was
(26:16):
just finding YouTube beats and just doing anything with those.
But yeah, after I met my producer, that was like
twenty twenty two where that that's when I was like, okay,
like I kind of want to do this for real,
test it out, put music out, and I did. But
then after a while I was like, oh, this is
I'm paying money, Like it's not going anywhere. A girl,
(26:40):
I'm going to school. I might as well focus on
school and just take a break. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
And I was also in a very like toxic relationship
where it was just like I low key couldn't even
take the series because of I can't talk to this
one or stuff like that. So yeah, I was just like, uh,
And then the song took off and I was like, oh, look, guys,
(27:06):
I think.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
This is a sign from God. Yeah, I love that
for you. What what school did you go to?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I went to wing Gate Okay, oh that's high school.
I went to Hudson County. It's a community college in Jersey. Okay,
am I associates Okay, okay, okay, I'm from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yes, yes, it hit me at the yo. Why is
that such a triggering question for me? Were you from Jersey? No, No,
I'm not from Jersey. Don't disrespect love Jersey. Do do
do do do do do? Where were you going to
go to school for nursing? Okay, nursing? Yeah, I didn't
get to do nursing program because I couldn't do that
(27:49):
by the time I was prepared to, because that takes
a lot of, like all your time, So maybe in
a few years. Girl By, Why did everybody stew that
hogging up the nursing program and the women that ran
the man who was telling me that in the car,
(28:18):
I'm like, damn, what you mean? But okay, also talk
to me about the song that like blew up and
you proved everybody wrong. It's for you right yeah. Yeah.
It was like basically I had put out I had
made the song. I only made half of the song,
like just first first chorus, and then I had to
(28:40):
like leave the studio quickly because like my time was done.
Like he was like all right, like I'm not gonna
lie practice up. We gotta get out of here. But
I was like okay.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I posted the snippet on TikTok like not expecting anything
because I wasn't really getting too much views or like anything.
And then this guy r J, like his Instagram handles
I Breathe Music Daily.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
He had basically.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Grabbed that snippet off of TikTok and put it on
his Instagram page and he got like nine hundred thousand
views and like people were.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Like, where's the song? And then that was around the
time I quit, and my producer called me like, uh,
your song's going viral right now, and I deleted Instagram
and everything. So I was like, I was like, where,
I don't see it, Like my TikTok is boring. He
was like on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I was like on Instagram what And then I checked
and I made it Instagram and I was like, oh,
and then there's people reaching out and like.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, that's fire. Yeah that is so fire. Yeah that
was the time you didn't even know. Yeah no, if
I yeah, if he didn't tell me, I would have
just been like the song would have never even been finished.
I would have just been like, Okay. So then once
you got on Instagram, saw the motion, you went in,
finished the record, like, grabbed a picture from whatever, put
(29:59):
it up, and then released it. Fire. That's actually a
really dope story. Yeah. And then since then, full time,
full time, all in literally Dad's on the team. M
m oh, I love that. H that's good man. Though
you make love songs, you make a lot of toxic
like songs, but it doesn't really give, like it don't
(30:21):
give like toxic R and B. Though for some reason, Yeah, okay,
I would hope not. I'm like, I don't even want
to make that type of music, but I guess it's there.
Though I see there. It's so spicy, but it's just
naturally in your personality. So it makes sense now that
I've met you. But okay, so album on the way
(30:41):
this year, No, just more singles, singles and then like
longer project, not an album but more like a just
a longer EP. Okay, like what six songs? Songs? And
these are gonna be love songs because you're in love. Yeah,
I don't know, maybe something else could be. We be arguing.
(31:03):
He's having a fun time. Actually, it's great. You gotta
keep him on his toes. How she does it, This
is good. I'm entertained through and through. You guys are cute.
He's entertained too with the music. He's like, oh okay,
but yeah, yeah, it could be both, you know, mix
it up. All right, Well, I'm looking forward to whatever
(31:24):
you give us this year. Oh thanks, I'm excited. I'm nervous.
So it'll be like it, girl, don't be shout out
to your grand Let everybody know where they can follow
you if they don't already. Okay, my Instagram is the
original knowlledge. Everything is the original Knowlledge, And yeah, follow me,
listen to my music. It's not that bad until next
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
What's your boyseno at what's up that one?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
A long? Yall?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Note, you need to talk. We need a time and
people like hitch you up and be like is this
about me?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
People have hit me up and been like, yo, you
wrote exactly what I was thinking like, I thank you
for saying what I couldn't say.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
When you're missing that connection, do you reach out or
do you sit in the feeling and then make music
from it? So reach out for the plot? What is
like the hardest crash probably the one that got me
into court. What's up, y'all? My name is Nali. My
(01:45):
new EP No Space is out now. Hoh me real close?
So we really close? I love you? What's not? We
need to talk? What's going on? Guys? I am Nila
Simone and welcome to another episode that we need to
talk today. I have a very special guest in the building.
I have R and B singer Nali here. How are you?
(02:05):
I'm good, I'm good. Thank you for having me, Thanks
for coming. Why why do you seem shy right now?
If you are not a shy person. Well, when you
saw me, I was drunk. Oh yeah, okay, that was
the time. I had a great time. But you did great.
I was so happy here up there. Oh period, don
I love, I love. I was so happy you were there.
(02:28):
You have great energy, and from that day I went
on to listen to your catalog and just got to
know you a bit more through your music. But we'll
get into that. Just before we get into that, how
are you feeling right now? Just current state of life? Oh?
I feel good.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm very happy, very zen. My life is so peaceful
and boring, but I'm not complaining about that. I'm grateful
to be in the space that I am.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I love that for you. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm so
intigent and boring. That sounds like fun to me. Uh,
what is in it boring for you? Are you like
a wake up and do yoga girl? Or oh yeah,
wake up, go to the gym? And then I'm just
it's just really like a day full of like what
side quest? What hobbies do? I feel like adventuring off too,
(03:15):
And I'll have a dog, so taking care of my dog.
First time dog on it, first time getting my own
dog because my family we always had dogs. But yeah,
my first puppy, and it's hard, but I love him.
He's so great. He's so terrible, but he's so great.
Are you training him? Trying to? Yeah? Wait? How how
(03:38):
old is he? Now? He's two? Months. Oh all right,
yeah you can. That's gonna take some time. Yeah with me.
What type of dog? A porky? He's a pit bull Yorky.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
It was a mistake, but you know, wait a minute,
a pitbull Yorky.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
That sounds like a combination. Can I see a photo?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I love what people ask for photos. Look at you
being a mom. Oh my god, he's so cute. Nah,
that's super cute. I love that for you. So I
know you dropped the EP this past month, right, yeah,
because it's been going on week three now, okay, drop
(04:24):
the EP? But what are you working gone currently? We're
gonna get a longer project. Okay, yeah, that's that's really
what it is. I'm gonna put out.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I mean, I'm gonna have some singles, but really working
towards that longer body of work right now, I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Curious to see what the body of work sounds like
for you. Are you currently in the process of making it? Yes?
And those because like, I have so much music that
I could just put out there, but then I'm always
like in a new space for music, so I'm like,
I want to I want to add like where I
am right now in this moment, Okay, on those faces,
(05:04):
I feel like it went from like great love to
like how did we get here? Like was that intentional
or these were just three records that you just wanted
to get off. I mean like, I feel like these
together were definitely like a storyline. Okay, yeah, that's what
it was given. But these were definitely songs made on
(05:25):
very separate occasions that I was just like, we're gonna
put these together because they helped tell the story. Man,
I can't wait to get into this. Have people like
hit you Up? Not even songs just based off this EP,
just other singles you've ropped. Have people like hitch you
up and been like is this about me? Yo?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
No, people have hit me up and been like, yo,
you wrote exactly what I was thinking, Like, I thank
you for saying what I couldn't say, And I was like.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh my god, what that is yo? Yeah? Being our
inside like saying our inside thoughts. Yeah. I be feeling
like that a lot. But okay, let's get into the
first record on the EP, Hold Me Close. Now, what
I just took away from it was just wanting to
be held But when was the last time you had
a moment where you felt like you just needed to
(06:18):
be held, no words, just vibes, no words, vibes on
this trip. My god, you are right here. Yeah, but
I'm so over oh right, understandable, get me out of here?
Me too? Well? Where do you want to be? Atlanta? Who?
My man? Oh? Oh understood, Yeah, definitely understood. Okay, So,
(06:43):
which R and B song instantly makes you want to
pull up and just lay with your man?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Um?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm gonna say, yo, do you know Isaiah Haraan like
any of his songs? Any of his songs? Is he
from Queens? I think he's from South Carolina? Okay, no, no, no, no, sorry,
there's like three Isaiah singing right now. Oh yeah, I know.
(07:11):
To backtrack, what is stopping you from moving to Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh oh man? No, my my music career, because it's
more convenient for me to be like out here. Everything
is out here for me. Both cities are great cities
to be in for music, though, Tell my team, tell
my team. Sorry, guys, I do love y'all as well,
but Atlanta's where it's at. I would have moved to
Atlanta too. Oh we should all just go. We should
(07:39):
We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. When you're
missing that connection, do you reach out or do you
sit in the filling and then make music from it?
So reach out for the plot, not reach out for
the plot. Well before I was in a relationship, yeah, yeah, obviously,
but yes, reach out for the plot. Always what's your said,
lib Dammit, it's always the losers. We have to make
(08:04):
a real of this ship. I kid you, not every
toxic huh oh lion, yes, oh, lion lib Yeah, that's
that's the same. But I'm not gonna put it on
the woman. I really like you. N I'm not gonna
put what you're a libra too. Oh hell no, I
(08:26):
felt that energy when you walked in step out, no joke,
huh No, that makes a lot of sense. Nah, my
theories on libers is right, for sure. I don't know
about the Libra woman. I don't know about the liver like.
(08:47):
We're just as terrible. No, unfortunately, two of my best friends,
my mom's, we were great. But sometimes yeah, it's rough.
I ain't gonnack like. I don't know y'all. Okay, cool,
I just didn't to blow your spot up, but you
low key put it in the music, So it's okay.
Let's talk about no spaces. What was one thing that
(09:08):
instantly makes you feel like you want to drop everything
and go straight to your man. I don't know, just
the time away. I guess like it's just like time away.
It is just oh no, what are we doing here?
Like when you're together with your partners, like okay, I
can I can use some time. Then you're gone. It's like, oh,
what's going on? Yeah, so yeah, totally understandable. Let's go
(09:32):
into Rip and that song is essentially about losing trust,
lack of trust within the love. Yeah, it's more like.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Being in denial, about being addicted to weed.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
What. Yeah, And then like it's just coming between my
relationship and it's like the person's trying to make me
stop smoking, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna try to
stop smoking. But then it's like when I stop smoking,
I'm not feeling any type of like there's no like,
oh yes, I know this is hard for you.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So it's like, okay, you stop smoking, like this is great.
So it's like and then when moments get hard, she's like, nah,
I'm about to smoke again.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Then it's creating more I am. I had no idea.
I feel like now that I told you, when you
go back and listener, ah, I see that. Hold on,
what was those faces about? I just gotta make sure
I know, like I'm reading these right. Well, Okay, No,
spaces was more. It was more like a sexual thing. Okay, cool,
I read that one correctly. Yeah, amazing. I thought that
(10:31):
whole song was about relationships. I mean, yeah, I can
see that it's a play on it, but it's not
about that, Okay, got it. I like the texture of
the artwork with the aliens for the cover art. It's random,
but it's cute. What is it? So basically I saw Okay,
(10:53):
I went to this like vintage store in Atlanta and
they had vinyls and stuff like that's. I was going
to their vinyls because I need an inspo for my
project cover. And I seen this super cool vinyl. I
don't I have a picture of it, but.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It was just super dope and I was like, I
want to recreate this. But then I ran into Cheaty
like I found him, which was the artist of the artwork,
and I was like, oh my god, I love this
style that you got going on. And then I sent
him the picture and then yeah he made that and
I was like, Oh, I love this, this is great.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Shout out to Chitty he ate with that. Yeah, he's great.
All right, let's get into the Fokers. The song is
classy but savage at the same time. Who had you
fucked up? Oh? Definitely definitely my ex have me autoway
that stuff. I was just so irritated.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I was like, Wow, Wow, this is great, this is great.
Let me just pour this into the studio before I
crash out.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I'm glad you did. So glad you did it. It's
honestly my favorite because it's so entitated. Yeah, did you
end up crashing out?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I actually held it together very well, and I'm glad
that I didn't, Okay, because nothing good ever comes out
of that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, but yeah, I just crashed out in the song.
Have you crashed out before? Plenty of times? Really not
plenty of times? Okay? All right? What is like? The
hardest crash.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Probably the one that got me into.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Court for beating him up for vandalizing, for saying I'm
going to do something to someone. Oh and then they
got it on tape. Then they sent it to their
police officer family member. Drama that is that it was
(13:04):
deep drama, not you fucking with a nigga that should
have ship to the cops. Man the tonatos at him?
Whoever that is. Can we add to like tornato effects
to the screen. That's so lame. Any nigga I call
a cop on a girl? Was she angry? Is wag
as fuck? It was? It was? It was a girl.
It was a friend. Yeah, she was involved. Okay, yeah,
(13:34):
wait a friend of his, A friend of my exes? Yea?
Is she the reason why I was about to crash out? Yes,
she was the reason for the crash out. Oh my god.
I'm sorry me too for her and my ex But
(14:00):
I know, well that's told me. I love the way
you're handling that now. P E T T Y. Yes,
such a fun record. This is actually the first song
I heard by you. Oh really yeah? Oh wow? Wow? Yes,
But talk to me about that record. What was the
inspiration behind it? Yeah, I was just it was really
(14:21):
late in the studio, we were trying to wrap up
and I heard the beat and I was like, I
want to do something to this, and that was like
the first thing that came to my mind. I don't
know why, but it's also just who I am too,
Like I'm trying to get over that pettiness. But it's
just like it's hard. It's hard. So I was like,
you know, this is what's on my mind. That's what
I'm going to talk about. Okay, Well, I want to
(14:42):
play a game called petty or not. Oh okay, now
say I'm gonna need you to say whether she is
petty or not? Oh okay, yes, so I'll read a
few different scenarios. No, this has to be a true
(15:08):
reflection of gnolly. Okay, blocking someone after they cancel plans
last minute. Have you done that? I have? Yeah, I
have never done that because I'm usually the one cancelzo lands,
going through your partner's phone while they're asleep. Hell yeah,
(15:28):
oh my god. You know what, don't worry about it.
I'm gonna just take I'm gonna take her hook and
then whenever she does some petty woods play it. Why Okay?
Keeping gifts from your ex in your house mm hmmm,
(15:50):
haven't done it? Oh I have? Oh you have not
a fan of that? Okay, watching their I G stories
but not texting back. Oh yeah, you do that. I
can't stay that shit. By the way, sending a VIMO
request for your money back after a breakup. Yes, no,
(16:11):
I've never done it, but I want to, she said,
y'all owe me for the time spent for fet felt. Okay.
Unfollowing a friend because they didn't invite you somewhere. No
posting a group pic but purposely cropping somebody out. No
refusing refusing to go to an event, because so when
(16:34):
you did not like to go? But why do I
like to be there? I would, I would actually want
to volunteer to go. Oh, oh my god, spicy. Okay,
I'm here for it. Giving back a birthday gift after
an argument. M No leaving a job and deleting all
(16:58):
your coworkers from social media. Yes, yes, she said, y'all
was my work friends. This is for real, get away
from me. That's funny, Okay. Stealing office supplies on your
last day? Yes? Wait where did they steal office supplies
from ice fort a Bridle company? Mmmm? They're posted in
their their pens. Oh, just to post it. I feel
(17:20):
like nothing else okay, Okay, I'm thinking about the event stuff,
the expensive ass ship that nobody wants to buy. Ever. Okay.
Posting song lyrics aimed at someone but saying it's just
a vibe. Oh, absolutely, she said all the time. Okay,
(17:42):
going live just to show your outside after someone cancels
on you. Oh, going live though I haven't gone live.
Maybe like a video or something. Story. Yeah, bringing your
own food to a family function because you don't trust
their cooking, all right, bring your own food to someone's
function because you don't trust it cooka Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Okay,
(18:05):
what's your ethnicity background? I'm Puerto Rican and Jamaican. Oh lovely, Yes, damn,
that's cool. Yeah, great food. All right, we're gonna play
this fill in the blank game or you gotta do
this on the blank. Great. The older I get, the
less I want to go outside. Oh my god. Yeah,
(18:31):
you've been on your introvership all interview. Yeah right, I
just feel like I don't know what's facing my life.
Name the era? What era is this? This is grind time.
We're a grinding era. Mm hmm yeah. Oh the craziest thing. Wait,
(18:51):
have you been on tour yet? No? Baby, okay, but
I see I seen you at a show. Yeah I was.
I was on tour with him. But like, I'm not
my personals Okay, I'm just a ten years from now.
I want my legacy to be. Mmm, that's a good one.
(19:13):
I would want my legacy to be something with the community,
something with the black community in general, just providing in
that aspect. I don't know something like that. Blank is
one movie I can watch with the sound off. Oh
(19:34):
White Chicks, Oh my god, I love that is a
funny ass movie. Favorite quote Guanta Akwana theod Why this
you want to talk about my bell? So I know
that script like inside and out, that's a great one.
(19:57):
Outside from singing, my favorite hobby is.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Now it's turned into cooking. I really language shout out
cooking with coy Man. She had the people in a
front seat. It's true, but yeah, what is parked? The
cooking thing roared oh and being big. I'm just like
I need to eat, and being in Atlanta, there's like
(20:22):
nowhere to eat for real. It's the same stuff American
deli wah. True.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The soul food can be great. JJ's can be great,
But I don't go to strip clubs.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Mm hmmm. So it was like, I need to cook.
Have you been to the strip club? Not yet? That
is not an adventure I have. I have partaken it yet. Yeah, right,
I'm like maybe soon. Even my dad called me like,
if you want some good wings, you know, go to
strip club. I was like, oh, that must really be
a thing. Yeahn mm hmm you mean mm hmm? Oh wow,
(20:52):
how was? It is not really my thing either, not
my tea. I'm like, do I even like? Is it
should go? Though? Just because now I feel like I
know what the rappers be talking about. Oh these are
the wings wings. Oh, She's like, as City Wings. That
(21:17):
makes sense. Okay, I think I think that would be
a great experience for you, especially in Atlanta. That's a
real strip play. I just need to go. Yeah, I'm
just gonna get out the way do it this weekend.
Sure period, I'm gonna do it as you will. I'm
of course you will. Nobody wanted you there. If I'm
going with anybody, might as well get this some one, Okay, okay, okay.
(21:39):
He is like, apause, I'm not gonna what to do.
I'm just be sitting there like you're gonna give her
the money to throw? Of course? Oh all right, you
didn't come to right. No. By the end of twenty
twenty five, I hope too, Oh my god, I hope to.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Make at least one hundred thousand, like please, I need
some money.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
She said, like please, what about music wise or that
is it?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Well?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think right now I'm going to hit a million streams,
like I just want more. A lot of people are
listening to my music. I was looking at it was
like forty one thousand listeners. I said, whoa, that's crazy
that Like imagine forty one thousand people in like one area. Yeah,
knowing my music, Like that's actually insane. But like, yeah,
I definitely want to hit like a million on something
(22:41):
the goal. Yeah, I can see that that's not far off.
My favorite album of all time is probably I'm gonness suit. Damn,
(23:06):
this is just popping into my head. But is that
my favorite album? What's the one that's there? No names album?
Which one was? It was itself? What is it called
the White Background something twenty five? Oh let me look
wait only because I can put it on shuffle and
(23:30):
it's like No Escapes Room twenty five, yes, or Self
No no, no Room twenty five. But Self was on there? Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
I used to be obsessed with Ace on this project.
Oh my god, that's a great time. It's all this stuff.
That is your favorite album of all time? I love that, Okay,
one of them, one of them, Yeah, definitely one of them.
I can't. I don't have like favorite anythings of all time. Okay,
(23:52):
I can't. It's so hard to do. That's fair. But yeah,
no name is up there. I love her. She's great, Okay,
from time to time. It's good to do Blake, smoke
some weed when you smoke Tativa high breed. But I
should get into more Tativa because I'd be slumped sleep,
(24:14):
just knocked out. Yeah, I love Sativa. Are you backwards
paper paper? No backwoods, No nicotine. I'm not a fan
of nicotine. To each of them, I respect it. You
would never believe me if I told you, probably about
that court case. But on a more positive note, I
(24:38):
don't know just that court case. Sometimes I look back
at my life and and I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I think, h smile because I think I'm very grateful
for everything that all the community that I had around
me growing up, and just opportunities and just connections that
a lot of people did not.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Have access to. Why love that? What would you say,
is like your villain origin story into music, Let's say villain.
But yeah, right, I was doing music since twenty twenty
and I was just like my dad was always in music,
and I was like, oh my god, like you should
(25:34):
just work with me, you know, believe in your daughter. No,
I have something to give. He was like, yeah, yeah,
you know, and the time is right. No whatever, man,
the time was right. When the song did what it did,
I guess, but I would say like that was my
villain origins there. I was like, you know, I'm just
gonna do this just to show you should have been.
(25:55):
You should have been when I said not that makes sense.
But yeah, twenty twenty, so that's when you went for
a fledge into your artistry. Well, it was still like
a hobby thing cause like it was just me a
writer I was introduced to and like an engineer and
it was more like a home team. So I was
(26:16):
just finding YouTube beats and just doing anything with those.
But yeah, after I met my producer, that was like
twenty twenty two where that that's when I was like, okay,
like I kind of want to do this for real,
test it out, put music out, and I did. But
then after a while I was like, oh, this is
I'm paying money, Like it's not going anywhere. A girl,
(26:40):
I'm going to school. I might as well focus on
school and just take a break. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
And I was also in a very like toxic relationship
where it was just like I low key couldn't even
take the series because of I can't talk to this
one or stuff like that. So yeah, I was just like, uh,
And then the song took off and I was like, oh, look, guys,
(27:06):
I think.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
This is a sign from God. Yeah, I love that
for you. What what school did you go to?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I went to wing Gate Okay, oh that's high school.
I went to Hudson County. It's a community college in Jersey. Okay,
am I associates Okay, okay, okay, I'm from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yes, yes, it hit me at the yo. Why is
that such a triggering question for me? Were you from Jersey? No, No,
I'm not from Jersey. Don't disrespect love Jersey. Do do
do do do do do? Where were you going to
go to school for nursing? Okay, nursing? Yeah, I didn't
get to do nursing program because I couldn't do that
(27:49):
by the time I was prepared to, because that takes
a lot of, like all your time, So maybe in
a few years. Girl By, Why did everybody stew that
hogging up the nursing program and the women that ran
the man who was telling me that in the car,
(28:18):
I'm like, damn, what you mean? But okay, also talk
to me about the song that like blew up and
you proved everybody wrong. It's for you right yeah. Yeah.
It was like basically I had put out I had
made the song. I only made half of the song,
like just first first chorus, and then I had to
(28:40):
like leave the studio quickly because like my time was done.
Like he was like all right, like I'm not gonna
lie practice up. We gotta get out of here. But
I was like okay.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I posted the snippet on TikTok like not expecting anything
because I wasn't really getting too much views or like anything.
And then this guy r J, like his Instagram handles
I Breathe Music Daily.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
He had basically.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Grabbed that snippet off of TikTok and put it on
his Instagram page and he got like nine hundred thousand
views and like people were.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Like, where's the song? And then that was around the
time I quit, and my producer called me like, uh,
your song's going viral right now, and I deleted Instagram
and everything. So I was like, I was like, where,
I don't see it, Like my TikTok is boring. He
was like on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I was like on Instagram what And then I checked
and I made it Instagram and I was like, oh,
and then there's people reaching out and like.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, that's fire. Yeah that is so fire. Yeah that
was the time you didn't even know. Yeah no, if
I yeah, if he didn't tell me, I would have
just been like the song would have never even been finished.
I would have just been like, Okay. So then once
you got on Instagram, saw the motion, you went in,
finished the record, like, grabbed a picture from whatever, put
(29:59):
it up, and then released it. Fire. That's actually a
really dope story. Yeah. And then since then, full time,
full time, all in literally Dad's on the team. M
m oh, I love that. H that's good man. Though
you make love songs, you make a lot of toxic
like songs, but it doesn't really give, like it don't
(30:21):
give like toxic R and B. Though for some reason, Yeah, okay,
I would hope not. I'm like, I don't even want
to make that type of music, but I guess it's there.
Though I see there. It's so spicy, but it's just
naturally in your personality. So it makes sense now that
I've met you. But okay, so album on the way
(30:41):
this year, No, just more singles, singles and then like
longer project, not an album but more like a just
a longer EP. Okay, like what six songs? Songs? And
these are gonna be love songs because you're in love. Yeah,
I don't know, maybe something else could be. We be arguing.
(31:03):
He's having a fun time. Actually, it's great. You gotta
keep him on his toes. How she does it, This
is good. I'm entertained through and through. You guys are cute.
He's entertained too with the music. He's like, oh okay,
but yeah, yeah, it could be both, you know, mix
it up. All right, Well, I'm looking forward to whatever
(31:24):
you give us this year. Oh thanks, I'm excited. I'm nervous.
So it'll be like it, girl, don't be shout out
to your grand Let everybody know where they can follow
you if they don't already. Okay, my Instagram is the
original knowlledge. Everything is the original Knowlledge, And yeah, follow me,
listen to my music. It's not that bad until next
time guys talk soon he's
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