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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, guys, So I just finished an interview with
(00:01):
DC the don Now. I really didn't know what to
expect from this interview, but I actually really enjoyed it.
One of my favorite takeaways is the story that he
tells about some of the charity work that he did
in New York City.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I pretty much was like, yo, Bro, you hungry, and
Bro just started like talking to me about Mike Tyson.
He was like, y'all tell Mike Tyson, don't fight Jake
paul Man. He too old to be fight Jake paul
I'm pretty much shout it out of his Twitter.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
He been like low key like tripping on me on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Though, really, yeah, thank you guys. Tune in. Secondly, he
talks about how.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I hate black culture.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh don't say that now. That one really had me
clutching my pearls. But honestly, he had a little good
situation backing him up, so I understood his sentiments. Last,
but not least, he said if he could live anywhere
for a year, it would be Tokyo. And then we
got into a really interesting conversation about how Asian culture
is one of the cultures that is now starting to
dominate in pop culture.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm planning to move to Tokyo for you, and they
just know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, not they know what they doing? What is that?
Check out?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Our new interview is DC the Don on We Need
to Talk. I'm your girl now as my mom.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Enjoy some guys, DC the Dame. My new project, Rebirch
is out. Now what sub nila? We need to talk?
Let's get it.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Guys and welcome to another episode of We Need to Talk.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Today. I got a very special guest in the building.
We got DC the don How are you.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I'm great. I mean, I'm tired as hell, but I know.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry I got you get here mad early,
but I'm glad you can make it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's all good.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
They're about to get a new version of me. They
don't think they've ever seen me this early.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Why is this like the calm version?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I'm very calm right now, very sleepy. Yeah. You
can't really get me to react that much to anything
right now.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, All right, well we'll see about that. We'll see
about we'll see we'll see how tall are you.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Like five to two and a half something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, I'll tell you this Nigga said five two and
a half.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, he said on the hunt me. I'm like, wow,
this is crazy. I'm five one oh.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So I got you beat?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah yeah, just a little bit, not much, A little bit,
not much.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's your chance here? Okay, skid, I forgot that for you.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I got it for myself.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Not everything is from somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I was just asking, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean usually when somebody got their name on the necklace,
usually like oh my grandma, I got this from me.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Okay, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's nice, yes, and sentimental. I see where are you
coming with this? So project is dropped?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, you've been in New York?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Has New York been treating New York been good? I
did like a full quest day like two days ago. Okay,
Well I decided. I actually woke up at like nine am,
and I decided to just like lead the hotel and
not come back to the hotel to night time.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And it was the most interesting that I've had in
a long time.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Did you already have planned what you were gonna do
or you? Nah?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I went and got breakfast and then I asked, like.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I was just talking Instagram. I was like, yo, what
should I do next? And I was like, go for
a walk. I went for a walk and then they're like, yo,
you need to go get like you need to go
give a homeless person some money right now and tell
them to go eat some food and like a bunch
of different ship And I was just doing these things
until like ten pm and I actually had like a.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Really good day. They kind of opened my eyes to like, nigga,
stop being so I.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Got damn lazy outside.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny because last week was warm, sun
was out.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You could have worked.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
When I first got here, it was pretty warm. Like
this ship is like bipolar as well it is, and.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
It's mad windy today. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I had the beanie on, like yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Well, at least you came prepared. At least you can't prepared.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But okay, so you when you went to feed the homeless,
how did that experience go? Because I fed the homeless
one time in New York, like with an organization, and
actually I was giving away toothpastes, were giving away like essentials,
and then one guy came back and asked me if
I have Colgate And then.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That's when I was like all right, come on, how
was it for you? When it's smooth?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's all on video, so my fan my kids know
how it went. I pretty much was like, yo, Bro,
you hungry, and Bro just started like talking to me
about Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He was like, Yo, tell Mike Tyson, don't fight Jake
Paul Man. He too old to be fight Jake paul
I'm all right, I got you call him after this,
like you want some food? He was like no, I'm good.
He's like, yeah, me tall as hell. And then he
was just he was glazing for like thirty minutes straight.
He was like, yeah, you had some man, you gotta
be smile what And I was just like I was like,
thank you, BROB appreciate that. And then I pretty much
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shout it out of his Twitter.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
He said, uh.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
He said he got like an infatuation with hookers, and
I was like, Yo, bro, listen, don't spend this on hookers.
Just uh, you're gonna have some girls of your dm
and on Twitter today. So I shouted him out and hopefully,
I don't know, hopefully one of the girls just slidd
in his deal.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Wait this man got a Twitter.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He been like low key, like tripping on me on
Twitter though, really yeah, Like I showed him a love
I shouted him out.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Bro, I don't know what's up with you. Bro. He's
been tweeting that. He was like, he's like, DC to die.
You lie. You didn't tell Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm like, Bro, I'm screaming. First of all, how does
he know you didn't tell him?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Like, I don't know, Bro, I don't know. I don't
know what the he thought this was. But that's wherever
you're at, bro, my bad man. Man.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
That's a good experience, even the Twitter part. I mean
it's very very New York.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I feel like I got the most authentic New York
experience the other day.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So that was cool.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Did you take the train?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
No, that's the only thing I didn't do, but only
because like I just don't know how to do it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You can't show him how to take the train.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's simple.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You gotta have it under your belt. It's not. It's
it depends on where you're going. It can't be simple.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
It can't be see I'm out getting lost, man.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, no, no, you'll be fine. And if you do,
that's just a part of the New York experience. There's
certain I'm like homeless people. I guess if they're homeless.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I don't even know that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Ride certain trains that tweak out that everybody knows.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So I kind of want you to.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Saw some famous crackheads.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Famous crackheads, so I kind of I want you to
get to see some of them if.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You get the kids.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh love me.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
My favorite one is on the AID train. She's just
like skinned lady back. We can go into that later.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Okay, okay, but that's what up.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay, good good, good good. So you got to enjoy
the good weather. Then it got cool you fed homeless.
Now the homeless guy hates you.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, the journey.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It's cool for sure. So you're the museum and ship too.
I was just like, oh what museum, Demona Fire.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I got to see like a Vango Payton time.
I was like, I don't really understand it. I don't
know why people like this al Muscht, but when I
first got there, I was kind of just like, I
don't I don't assume that this is going to be
anything like fruitful for me.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
But it ended up actually like giving me a lot
of inspiration.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Love that. Yeah, okay, Fire.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So you're not really into art where you're just experimenting.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I think I think now it might be you know
what I mean. Yeah, I tried a lot of shit
that day that just kind of like opened my eyes.
I'm actually about to move out here next year, so like, oh.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Word from la why okay? Good?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well the city, I'd be happy to have you. I
actually just got into art too. There's this book called
I just bought it yesterday. Actually it's like the short
Story of pop art or the short Story of modern art.
I'll take a picture and send it, but it literally
breaks down like all the greats like Andy, Keith Harring, Basquiat,
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and it explains like different people's styles. Why the styles surrealism, realism,
blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I don't know shit either. I'm just now like getting
into it too.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
You paint or draw or anything.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I mean, I dabbled, I dabble one mad stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I wouldn't say I'm great at it. I wouldn't say
like I'm a painter, but i'd paint some time. I
do pottery sometimes.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I just like you do pottery. Yeah, that ain't no
casual shit.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
It is. It's like a it's like a release. It's
not like a job.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I don't make it for nobody. Yeah, they even let
you destroy it once you finish it.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
But yeah, all right, I'm starting out on this.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
All right.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So let'sten. So you're currently in La, right, Yeah, how
long you've been in La.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's been like it's been a long time, like seven
eight years now. Like I feel like, in a lot
of ways, I feel like I've done what I could
do in La and I'm just like ready to start
a new chapter in my life. And I think New
York is like that next chapter for me.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
That's what's up. I'm actually excited to hear that. So,
but you're originally from Milwaukee. Yeah, so you lived in
Milwaukee till what age?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And it's like sixteen, I got kicked out of school
and then my mom was like, you gotta move with
your dad because he's fucking up out here, and he
already lived in Cali.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
So I just moved to Cali. So I've been there
for a while now.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Okay, so you're low key from both places. Yeah, Okay,
did you like Kelly when you when you like had
to move?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I love California like I love CALLI just for like
completely different reasons besides my music career.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I think that's the worst part.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I feel like LA is the city to go for
music though.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Or LA or should they tell you?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean, it's good to be out there because like
whenever you're doing like roll out things, like most of
the locations that you need to be at is in LA.
But other than that, it's like any other time whenever
you're not in like dropping season, you're not dropping the
album or whatever, You're just surrounded by some of the
fakest motherfuckers in the world.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I do hear that. I do hear that.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's like it's draining. It really is, okay, and like
I just like I'm just over it, you know what
I mean. I'm getting to a point in my life
where I just want to be around some people that
just like actually know how to just speak their mind.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
New York got plenty of that.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
So you'll be in great and I'll be here until
I get sick of that shit too.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Do you see yourself ever like living out the country?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah, I'm planning to move to Tokyo.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
For you, man, your Asian culture is really starting to
dominate here and I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, I mean they just know what they're doing, that's all.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Damn not. They know what they doing? What is that?
I really? I like Asian culture. I like Indian culture too.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah. You like ramen, love ramen.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
You like sushi, love sushi, love dumplings.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I like anime. I like Asian culture. I like Indian too.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I don't know, it's just weird because as a kid,
I didn't really have no interest in it. So I'm
trying to figure out is this like, like what why
is it now becoming so popular?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I think people just kind of like everybody got like
a little bit cheap herd mentality, so people start seeing
other people big up and ship and then they flock
to it.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Because when I was younger, that shit wasn't cool.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
It's that's why I'm like, wait, sh it.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Was not cool?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, Like I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell certain people.
I watch Dragon ball Z every day, Like you know,
I could have, but I just wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know what I mean. It wasn't like you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
So or did you want?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Exactly understood? Interesting era that we're in, but so you
just dropped rebirth?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, why rebirth? Re Birth? I'm starting new Okay. In
my eyes, I feel like this is my first album.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I just keep calling my debut album because a lot
of my other shiit just don't compare.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
In my eyes, I feel like I never had that.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Is such a cheat code.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It's certain niggas that was like low key like hating
that I did that too. I just don't understand why
niggas like have that much.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Time when they like, why do you care?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, like, why do you have that much time audio
day to like be mad at the fact that I
want to cause my first album, But I put like
I feel like all of my genuine true intentions were
making music we're putting to this album.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Album.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's the first time I was able to one hundred
percent do that, and I feel like, in my eyes,
that's my first album.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Okay, you know what I mean. I like it for
the intention. I like your reasoning.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I feel like the other albums I was kind of
like it was like other motives other than just making
the music that I genuinely want to put out and
genuinely like you know what I mean, and that I
feel like is one hundred percent honest.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
What was that tied to?
Speaker 1 (12:24):
You think that was tied to just like your development
and growth as an artist or like outside influencer.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I think that's just as a human like you growing up,
you know what I mean, Like when you're younger, you
kind of just like you get trapped and trying to
be a part of song, you know what I mean.
And now that I have the luxury to just take
risks and do what I want to do because I
got my mama crib and I was able to do
like certain things for my family. Now, I just felt
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like free. I felt free enough to do exactly why.
Like the reason that I started making music and the
reason I fell in love with music shows in this
album versus any of my other albums.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So I feel like it's my first album.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
What's your favorite record on the project?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
It changes every day, but I would just say the
outro because it's some real shit.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I feel like it's like the most honest I've ever
been on the record.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Will you be Mine?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Talk to me about the record. Knock me off my
feet with Andre? How did you Andre meet bro?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Honestly?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Like my manager she told me she was like, Yo,
this this girl is like very talented. I tapped into
her discography and I was just like, yeah, I gotta
work with her.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
And I had already had that record.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I just sent it out and she sent it back
hella fast, like the girls talented. Yeah, but it was
like it was one of those situations where like she
was mad cool and like most people that I try
to work with usually.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Don't end up going away that I would have hoped.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
That must be.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That was the nicest way to say to La Man. Yeah,
that was the nicest way I could have said it.
That was my pr training version. But yeah, usually it's
like it's like very disappointing, and she was just like
she was genuine and she she did the ship hella fast,
and I was just happy with the way that turned out.
All the features on the album is like that though,
Like it's all genuine motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Did you have you ever like been told somebody like this,
ain't it like for future?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah? Oh my god, you have. It seems like you're
in New Yorker at heart. Anyway, I feel like you're
gonna fit in.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Speak on that.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Oh my god? All right, fly enough to be Virgil talk.
I said, Yeah, talk to me about Virgil's inspiration in
your life.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Virgil, Bro Virgil, I feel like kind of the way
I want to move to Japan. I feel like that
was Virgil, But that was Virgil when the shit really
wasn't core, you know what I mean. I feel like
he was just like one of those nerdy black kids
that was just like very talented and very very like
open to just doing things that people aren't used to,
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you know what I mean. I feel like I respect
any person, any black person that was able to just
like break whatever stereotype that was put on them, yeah,
and be authentically themselves and taking that criticism along the way.
I respect that, you know what I mean. In my eyes,
I feel like that's like he speaks for a whole
generation of kids that wasn't able to beat themselves.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
That's real. I mean that's really real.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You know, it's I don't know what it is that
like they really try to limit black to just like
hip hop and yeah chicken and collar greens.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
No real.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I mean it's true though.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Even like the older generation, like I took my dad
to this like bomb ass Japanese restaurant.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Hated it, Yeah, hated it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Like everything, and I'm like, all right, you're not even
giving it a try just because you're just think.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
It's weird, you know. So it really beat us.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But what we do it to ourselves, we get we get,
we get put in this box.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
I feel like the best the best.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Way to like do mind control on the population is
by telling them that there's something, that there's something and
then having their leaders be at something mm hmm, because
who else we're gonna look up to besides the people
that you are saying that we are.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
It's like the slave plantation back in the day when
they had the head slaves the house. Niggas just be like, yeah,
we gotta we gotta keep working hard. We gotta keep
working hard and telling them exactly like what the master
is telling them to do, and they telling everybody else
on the plantation that everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Gonna look up to you because you're in the house. Nigga.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That shit trickles down generations. I got brought all my family,
Like my dad don't like sushi either, Yo, What is that?
I hate that this nigga will only eat a California row.
I finally got to eat a California Row. But it's like,
I don't know, man, I don't I don't like it.
I feel like we just like kind of like we
shot away from ship. That's that's outside of our culture. Yeah,
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when really, in reality, this ain't even our culture.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Oh lord, you've taking us to church today. Just being honest,
you're not lying, You're really not.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
I ain't gonna lie to you. Niggas can call me
whatever they want to call me. I hate black culture.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Oh, don't say that. Don't say that I do.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I hate the I hate the culture that they. I
hate the culture that they that they choose to promote. Okay,
And when I say they, I don't mean.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I mean they that we don't even know you know
what I mean? I hate because I know, because I
know we so much more complex than that. We're so
we're so deep rooted, but we only get shown in
one light. And I don't fuck with that at all.
And I don't fuck with people that just that just
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stand for that as well. I feel like you will
fucking sellout.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I feel like, yeah, and the excuse within our culture
is well, I got a bag for it, or you know,
like or will people like it?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But what did that bag. What did that bad cost you?
It cost you your soul.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
They don't feel like it cost them though, And it cost.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Them their nephew. It cost them my little cousin. I
got little cousins that man. When I go back home,
brou and I see my little cousins, my little my
nieces and nephews and shit, brouh, and I hear the
way that they be talking and shit they be talking about,
and like, it's disgusting.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That should disgust me, Bro, real shit, that shit discuss
me Like I don't ever want to hear.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
My get it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yeah, it costs their.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, in a lot of ways.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I'm like, in whatever way I can help with that, bro,
Because when I grew up, there was nobody from my
city that ever opened their mouth to say something positive
as an artist at least or a rapper.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That just didn't exist, you know what I mean. And
to this day, to a point, it's still don't exist.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
So whatever I can do to help kids from because
I mean, if you're not you're not gonna dream to
get a Lamborghini. If you don't see a Lamborghini in
your city, ain't no Lamborghini's in Milwaukee, you know what
I mean? So, how the fuck could you dream to
be something other than this stereotype that people are placing
on you? With everybody around you is that stereotype, especially
the niggas that look like they making it and they
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got bred. Why else would why would I want to
be something else? It's just like the little kid that
looked up to the dope boys in his box. I mean,
it's the same thing, yeah, and in my eyes, like
it makes people uncomfortable, but it's the truth, and they
everybody know it deep down. So I ain't saying ship
that nobody ain't thought about it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
No, you're definitely not. It's just that people don't want
to hear the truth. Like people want to be entertained,
people want to laugh people. Yeah, people want to be
entertained and people want to be laughed. That's why the
presidency went as it did, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, which is also sad. And I don't fuck with
that neither. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
I just like and my eyes like, while I'm here
and I got these kids' attention, let me do something
that's worthwhile. Let me give them something that they can
take and actually using their life that isn't harmful to them,
because why the fuck else wouldn't I you know what
I mean, Like y'all putting money in my pocket, y'all,
y'all feeding my family essentially, let me give you something
(20:50):
that's fruitful for you or your soul, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I feel like that's just that was the only reason
I was here to even put here to make music.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
That so, what is the takeaway? What is it that
you want people to get from rebirth?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Honestly, I wouldn't say nothing in particular.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I just want them to go into it with no
expectations and no pre conceived judgment and just like whatever
they take out.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Of it, that's all I want.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
If they hate it, I want them to hate it.
I just want them to go into it with a
open mind.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
That's all. I really don't give a fuck as long
as they like what I what.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I as long as they like the intention, you know
what I mean, Cause I really did.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I really did put a lot of thought in, like heart, soul,
all of that into it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And I feel like that's just all you can ask
for from an artist these days, Like that's like the
bare minimum Man and then a lot of people just
don't even give you that, which is it's fine to
have just like fun music sometimes and whish this album
has that as well, But there's also those cuts on
there that's like it kind of like brings you into
(22:04):
my world in a way that's like almost uncomfortable, but
I feel like it's very well needed for an audience
to connect with the artists and like actually connect with
the song and have those songs that they're like, Yo,
this reminds me of when I was fifteen years old,
and yeah, you know what I mean, those songs where
it's like it kind of reminds you of an era
(22:24):
of your life, whatever era they're going through right now,
and ten years from now, they'll look back and be like, Yo,
that song was the one that when I got my
first heartbreak or my first girlfriend or my first or whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, nope, music kills. Music definitely holds memories. So that's yeah,
that's what's up.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I like that. And to your point about I don't
even care if you like it, I don't care what
you take away from it. That's the same thing that
art is about, like the big goal you're looking at
you're like, I don't really know. I'm looking at it.
You appreciate it, but you got to kind of create
your own take on it, right, I.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Mean, if I'm making music for you to like it,
I feel like that's the that's the first fuck up
right there, And that's what I feel like. That's in
a lot of ways what I've been doing before this
album now.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Yeah, but this is true, you.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, I just made music. I like.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I've seen Rick Rubin say the fans should be the
last thing that you're thinking about in the studio. You
should make music that gives you chills and hope that
it connects with them the same way connected with you.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And that's what I did.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Fire.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, legend, I just took his. I just took his.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I ain't mad at it. I like it, all right.
So we play a game on the show called Questions
that Need Answers. All you have to do is feel
the blink.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Ready, all right, the older I get, the less I
no realize.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I know.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Wise man knows he knows nothing at all. All right, Okay,
you would never believe me if I told you.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Let's get that one.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Okay. Sometimes all right, sometimes I look back at my
life in.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Miss being a kid?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Retweet Yes, sure, sure, take.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
That ship to you take that ship for a rent.
My mom keep calling me.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
It's all good.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Your mom in the interview right now.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
We'll edit, We'll edit. All right, Wait should we edit?
Because that was great? I miss being a kid. Then
your mom called hold on that, like alignment? What is that?
That's kind of crazy. Shout out to your mom, man,
But yeah, no, I miss being a kid too. Uh.
(24:44):
What were you like as a kid? Were you always
in the music or.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Like, I was just a hyper hyper.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's okay, So nothing's changed. It's just.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I'm just I was just a fucking yeah, jumping around
a ship. All right.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Did you play sports? Yeah? Did you draw?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Uh huh on the walls? Oh? I'm on paper, both
of them, both of them.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
If you could say three things to your eighteen year
old self, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Don't stop working? That count yeah, three nuts or three
three words.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
You can say some other stuff if you want. Don't
stop working. You have a healthy work life balance. I'm
just curious.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Uh, I don't think there's a difference between working life
for you. Yeah, I feel like I'm living when I'm working,
and that just that just goes to show that I
picked a good career and if you don't feel like that,
you probably shouldn't be working that job.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Just want yo, some gyms dropped in this interview, I
would say, likely.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
This mess, some coffee. I'm here for it, all right.
My personality trait is.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
What is the personality trait? Is it like just your
personality like melted down in one word? Yes, my personality
trait is. My personality trait is helpful.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Mm hmmm does that count?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Is he helpful? Can you confirm or do not?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay, all right, From time to time, it's good to do.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
From time to time, it's good to do. Uh self
care days I just didn't want two days.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Ago and that ship.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Yeah, what does self care look like for you?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Just doing things that like calms your soul. I think
the main thing that I did was just listen the.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Music that whole day. I have my headphones on the
whole day.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I was just like walking around the city and at
the museum doing whatever fuck I was doing, talking to
the homeless man about Mike Tyson.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I think that that was something that was like some
care for me.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Walking to the walking through the city really is like
a vibe, like the people watching.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And like ship out here is unreal, Like it's just
so unreal just walking around.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
The city out here and having like your headphones on. Yeah,
it was a different experience for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
You know, Ello, it's like you gotta have a car
instead and they're here, is like what's the point.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Which I normally would prefer. Oh really, I love driving
my car listening to music. But at the same time,
like this was just like a whole new perspective, Like
I listen to the album just walking around the city,
Matt Brick, I had to fucking my heads my Colt
pocket is just like walking around like damn, the ship,
Brady's a whole new perspective.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, were you high?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, we true, just weird.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It's weird, No no judgment, cause off the shroom, the
lights are crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Off the shroom, I probably would have fucking I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Know, the lights are too much.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Baby steps, baby steps, that's a good Yeah, great, But
when you officially move out here at some point, yeah,
try that.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
You'd be like, damn, I'm really here right now. Well
at least that's how I be feeling.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
But did you feel like everybody knew he was on shrooms. Nah.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I feel like that w that would happen to me
if I was walking around the city, I would be like, man,
all these people know I'm on shooms.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right now, nobody even thinking about you when I'm I'm
you don't feel intuitive when you're on shrooms?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
The hell?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Really?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I mean yeah, but like I'm still all.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I feel like I just like I started thinking, like,
motherfuckers know I'm hot right now.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I feel like I could read people's mind. I'm like,
oh my god, oh my god, I'm yeah. I feel
like I can go give you a hug, like like
I've seen that. I seen that person cut you off.
You didn't deserve it. Like That's why I'm embarrassed by
the fact that I know so little about.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm embarrassed about the fact that I know it's so
a little about my own family's history.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Where are you guys originally from? I know you don't
even know that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I know my mom was born in uh Gary, Indiana, Okay,
and apparently my grandma went to school with Michael Jackson.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, Indiana got the goats.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, but it's like past that.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah, ok, my mom.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Barely knows past that, which I feel like, I hate that.
I hate that a lot of people and like, just
like I feel like a lot of a lot of
black people just don't know their history in a lot
of ways. Maybe I should do like a twenty three
and me like an ancestry.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I'm low key afraid of that. I ordered it, and
I just never used a.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Kick because I'm scared to find out. You German?
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Actually I was born in Germany. It's so ironic you
said that. Yeah, I'm not German though.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
My parents are from Tampa by way of Alabama on
my dad's side and Tampa by way of Dexter, Georgia
on my mom's side.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
So you just went on the world towards to start
your life. That's lit.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah. Thanks, you know, I don't know any much further
past that.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
What's home for you?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Home is I grew up in Maryland. My dad's in
the Army.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
That makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, so I grew up in Maryland and then I've
been here eleven years.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
So really I lived in New York in August.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So pretty much kind of like the same thing for
me then, So like this is your la yes.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe you should go try LA. Maybe
we swamp.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I don't want to try l A. I want to
try why not? I mean I like l A.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I do.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I like l A.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I have fun when I'm out there, but I feel
like I feel like for the work that I do.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Atlanta. Me and Atlanta speak the same language, like especially
on like the radio media.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Side, they're heavy Latin and they're very and then if
you black, it's very La.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
You know what I'm saying, like born and raised. I
ain't born and raised La, you know. And I respect
the culture, but it's just me and Atlanta speak the
same language.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah, I'll see what you mean.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, I can see that even Yeah, like if I'm
playing even here, like if I play because in Maryland
they play like Gucci man Gotti money Bag, like that's
what we play.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Yeah, they don't play that here though.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Here's like it's two hours of Soca, two hours of afrobeads.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
This, I'm like, oh shit, Like it was a big
culture shock.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So I think I think Atlanta would be easy for me.
But I do really like New York just because it
did introduce me to so many different cultures. Like yeah, yeah,
the reason why I mean sushi is because I live
in New York.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
You know, I'm eating fucking.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Jerk chicken one day, then the next day I'm eating
chicken had tie.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
You know, drunken noodle.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like or is it too early to eat jerk chicken?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Yes? Yes, what absolutely?
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I wanted you to say, no, you know what.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
If you really, if you're really trying to get it,
I know it's about. It's Harlem Street. They opened twenty
four hours and they're good.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
They opened twenty four hours open, twenty four hours open.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I feel you, but.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I'm telling you they're good and they're nice and rude,
so you know it's good.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Oh yeah, they rude, how rude? Nine probably smash Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And it's early so she might be out of eleven
right now.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I get it right now.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
She just I think you should okay.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
All right?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Oh my god, yo, DC, thank you so much for
pulling up.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
On Thank you for having me. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Shout out to grate.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Everybody know where they can follow you if they don't already.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
D C T H E D O N Instagram, Twitter,
all that.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Tap bang guys, rebirth out now talk to peace.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Mm hm m hmm